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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:31):
We have enjoyed a season where.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The Broncos pass rush has certainly gotten after the quarterback
a lot more than in previous years. It was a
problem under the Fangio defense. It really wasn't a team
that came away with a lot of sacks. Now we're
a big time sack team. I think they'd be able
to get after Anthony Richardson, who some have said is
kind of a diet Cam Newton. He has one of
the lowest pressure to sack rates out there in the league.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Tough guy to bring down. I mean he's a big boy,
he's tough guy to bring down. Runs the ball fairly
well the Colts do you like to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The main component of their past game is the deep shots,
specifically to Alec Pierce, the guy who averages over twenty
two yards per catch leads the league.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
That is an insane number in this row of football.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Will the Broncos pass rush be able to frazzle Anthidi Richardson?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yes, the answer to that question, it's absolutely yes. He's
still the Richie quarterback even though he is second big player.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But make it strong.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I mean, look, I mean he's a second year player,
but he's still the rookie because that first year he
didn't really play because of the show of the injury,
right right, so he said he watched. But this guy
is too athletic. He's talented. I like the comparison to
Cam Newton two on. This guy's two hundred and forty
four pounds. Now, if you think you just gonna run
up on him and he's just gonna lay down for you,
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you got noth thing coming.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I mean, he's got.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Real they thighs where if you don't hit him the
right way, you could absolutely hurt yourself. So I can
see the Colts actually using a lot of the RPO
college type game against the Broncos, who, from the edge standpoint,
is talking about Nick Benito loves to get up the field.
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Don't be surprised if they say, well, you know what,
we're gonna utilize your strength against you. Allow Benito to
get upfield, slap him by, and then it's gonna open
up that that d gap book, you know. So if
Anthony Richardson wants to step up, he's gonna have an
escape hatch. Now that's something that the Bronco is gonna
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have to tend with because in weeks past you haven't
had to utilize a guy from a spy standpoint, And
I know against the Baltimore Ravens, the game plan was,
we're gonna use guys to spy because you're gonna crowd
the line of swimmers, drop out, force him to think,
use some of your outside past Russians. We saw, you know,
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Jonah ellis us in that Baltimore game to be able
to drop out and spy. But Richison is just as
talented from a running standpoint as Lamar, and he's big,
so they're gonna have to rally and tackle and the
biggest thing for me not wanting to put too many
players in space.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, this is it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He has not been sacked very much, No, only eleven
times on the season, has not been sacked very much,
but he's been good for a fumble and an interception, uh,
basically per game over the course of the season this year.
Anthony Richardson not not exactly the most uh, not exactly
the most careful with the ball is probably the best
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way to put that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
He's uh, he's just you know, he's got some Jameis Winstonton.
You got a little lord delivered from the pick sixers, right,
He's yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It's when you look at at what he's been able
to do this season, and it's tough because you know,
he's a.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Guy who he's struggling with the intermediate game.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And it's not that the game is too fast forwarm,
he just hasn't learned anticipatory throwing yet.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Right, So most of.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Their game is either played behind a line of scrimmage
or with huge vertical shots, specifically to Alec Pierce, who
is deceptively fast. Yes, he's white. Hey, look I mean
he leads the NFL yards perception. Number two is Jalen
Wattle and Jaylen Wattle's four yards perception behind him. Alec
Pierce averages twenty two point two yards perception, Jayalen Wadle averages.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Eighteen point one.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Eighteen point one is huge in today's game, and that's
still way behind where this guy is.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
So that tells me they take calculate the shots. And
playing against Anthony Richardson, even though he's a rookie, are
you playing more zone to playing more man? Because if
you play more zone, right, it leaves you open for
those little spaces down the field, a short intermediate asking
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yardage that the Colts can take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
But also it allows.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The defense to keep everything in front of him and
then play. If Richardson runs the ball at some point,
you're gonna have to run some man coverage at some point,
and That's what I'm thinking, and.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
They Riches to pull the ball down and try to
get on the perimal You're gonna see a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
By the way, I said Jayla Waller, I met James
Williams looking right at it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I don't know what's wrong with me, but.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm looking right at it is Jameson Williams who had
eighteen point two.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Not Jayalen Waller.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I yeah, I don't you know. What they do is
predicated on the run game. They want to play a
ball control type of game. And when you eventually do
suck those safeties up and get them down to the
box and they get that one on one on the outside,
they want to take a deep, deep shot to Alec Pierce.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Josh Dowen is probably gonna be uh, he's been hurting.
We'll see if he's back for this game. They got
the buy. We try to get him healthy.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But they've got a good receiving trio when he's on
the when he's on the field, between my him.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Michael Pittman and Alick Pierce, they've got some good receivers.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Okay, when we when we look at this game and
we break it down, the first thing we look at
the outside with the corners and we can say, well,
there's the Cleveland game Levi Wallason play well, So if
the Broncos fix that issue, they'll be Okay. Now that
sounds great on the surface, but because you're dealing with
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Jonathan Taylor, who is a game wrecord himself on the ground,
and you have a quarterback who can wreck you from
a rushing standpoint as well. The safeties, right Brandon Jones, PJ. Lot,
They are going to be key this game, very very key.
The reason I say that the first thing is communication,
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second thing is execution. Can you execute the defense that advanced?
Joseph calls for sixty minutes to a tee because one
busted players. All it takes with these receivers. They're that good,
that's all because now if they get that deep shot,
now you're worrying about the deep shot, the quarterback run
the ball, and the running back. That's too many things
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you got to take something away from. And I hope
the guys who play in the back end, if they're disguising,
don't disguise yourself. How to your responsibility. Do not do
that because if you're doing that, you're doing your surf
in the defense, and the guys who play on the.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Corners, you're doing them at the service.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
On the outside. You got Michael Pittman who's six foot four.
You got to Alan Pierce who's six three to eleven.
Those are big guys, and Pierce is deceptively fast and
sixty three to eleven. He doesn't look like he runs
as fast as he does, but he does.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like he runs every get.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Out, every bit of four three nine, and he runs
every bit of it. I mean he is you know
he used to see like remember when you watch Jordan Nelson,
you could tell he was fast because the little legs
were turning. This guy's sixty three. He doesn't look legs
don't look like they're doing that, but he will. He
takes up a big chunk every time he does. Remind
you a little bit of Matt Jones. I don't know
if you remember him. He played quarterback for Jacksonville. Yeah,
play quarterback in Arkansas. I've heard a wide receiver. He
was six foot six to four to three forty. He
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didn't look like he was looking.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He was jotting. But because they'll.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Stride a long he would get up. He would eat
a huge chunk. Alan Pierce is kind of the same way.
He's not not the quickest guy in and out of.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
His break the man he is straight line fast. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Once again, the idea is that when you look at
the Colts, I mean, I don't want to build them
up too much, but also I don't want to undermine.
I don't I don't want to do it because if
you're not on your a game and you're not communicating
what we've seen, and not just the Broncos, but defensive
units all season long. When you're playing zone coverage and
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you don't play it the right way, you don't hit
your drops, you don't look to find out before the
ball is snap, which guys can hurt me, not on
the same side that I am standing on, but on
the opposite side. And because that's how they get you,
they're all it's almost like a bait and switch. They
puts someone in front of you because they want to
throw behind you. But the progression for the quarterback is
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one two, one two three, hitch your landmarks, communicate, play
with your eyes. Don't chase ghosts. Because you start chasing ghosts,
that's gonna be a problem. But that could happen if
Jonathan Taylor starts to get hot, that can cause problems
for the Broncos defense.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Here's the big chunk play guy.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Most of his receptions, they're not he doesn't have like
one hundred yard reception. That's skewing the totals here, by
the way, either most of he just gets a lot
of thirty two thirty nine, thirty nine, forty four yard typeers,
big chunk receptions, and that puts some in field goal
range and you know, sometimes allows them to get to touchdown.
They want to be a ground and pound team. They
want to be an RPO team. Shane Stikeen wants to do.
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You harken back to when he was at the Chargers
when they had Herbert. They want to run that kind
of offense. Now they have to run the ball a
little bit more than they like because Richardson.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Is not a great passer.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So you can also go back to his tenure when
he was with Philadelphia with Hertz, who had arguably his
most successful season.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
With Shane Stikeen, it's that's kind of what it is.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
There's a lot of read option look type stuff for
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You got to stay keyed as a linebacker.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This is where zone coverage, when you run too much
of it, it hurts you because now you've got your corners
and your second level players or linebackers, they're sitting off.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Once you go with the r PO, that's play in
my opinion, that's play action, another form of play action.
Those linebackers have to step up, right, they have to
honor the run. But now this is where and I
don't want to get too deep into the weeds with this,
but you run plays they call ex drift, You fake
the r PO that guy that acts as he runs
the slam when boom is right there, because you got
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the defenders sitting off and you got everyone clamping down
inside the.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Stop stap to run the middle. And what you're creating,
essentially ben is run after catch.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So at some point I would love to see the
Broncos defenders on Sunday, even if it's zone line up
like it's pressed, just to kind of talk Richardson out
of throwing those quick slants or those quick outs players,
so those quick hitter plays, just to make him think
just a little because now he's still a young quarterback
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coming into a loud environment, right, because look as old stadium,
it's not like the RCA Dome, the old one.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That one was loud. Yeah, it's not as loud. I've
been to the I've been to look as well many times.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
With the combine every Year's No, it's not as loud
as as some of these some of these dome stadium
certainly it's not as loud as to Detroit as these days.
Uh as well, and you know, and then you're not
used to that at hide home. You're not gonna get
that when you're out there on offense.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're Denver, it's gonna be a little loud. I mean
it should be.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I'm hoping Broncos fans are going to make it a
playoff atmosphere here because we're.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Going it's don't get it twisted. This is a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Well, but I hope the idea is that we're going
to make it a playoff atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It is a playoff atmosphere. This is a playoff game.
You can't have you can't have the four team.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You lose this game, all four teams that are competing
for a wild card, and don't sleep on since he
is the fifth all four, you don't have the tiebreaker.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Two. No, you don't. You say you can't lose this game.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's the reason, and I know it sounds hyperbolic, but
that's the reason I keep talking about just being the
biggest game in Denver since the run to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, I remember, wa you probably is you lose, You're
probably out listen. I remember telling Ryan Edwards when I
was on a Sports too that every game from that
point where they lost against Kansas City, every game in
my opinion, was a must win game. And I know
he didn't see it that way because the Broncos still
could get it to the playoffs. And I say no,
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because if you are saying that you are turning paid
and you're trying to set or reset the standard, that's
got to be the mentality.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, that way that no player.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
No coach, take any opponent, no matter what their regents
are or.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Granted right, right, that's got to be the mentality. It does.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And you're coming off I mean both you teams are
coming off of bye week. You're not getting the advantage
of a short week team coming you know, on the road,
losing a day of practice.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Both of you coming off the buy you're gonna be
well rested, well prepared for this thing.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I think the advantage here for the Broncos lies in
their offense going against the Colts defense.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Colts defense led by Gus Bradley.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Uh they run a mixture, They have some some some
middlefield open concepts, but a lot of cover three. Uh
as Gus is you know comes from that tree where
they where they were on the cover three and their
defense has struggled, specifically.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
With stopping to run.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
This could be a gut right game for the Broncos
run game because safety Nick Cross is I think forty
eight tackles away on the season for breaking the Sat
Steve Atwater season tackle mark for.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
A safety. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, their safety is making an insane amount of tackles,
which tells you the runners are getting into the second
level a crazy amount.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
See.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I know all too well about that scenario, Ben, because
when I played for the Broncos, we were playing the
Colts and Peyton Man was playing for the team and
Al Wilson had a club in his hands so we
couldn't tackle.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
We didn't have John Lynch in that game.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Either, And dude, I think I made about sixteen tackles.
This was the infamous game where the tables were turned
over right the gator, Right, this is the gat This was.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How you know the game to go to NFL film
for the end of high like this is what this
was the game.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And I was so pissed because as a safety, you
want to make sure if you if you're hovering.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Around eight tag was a game. That's that's that's modern.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
But if you're making thirteen to sixteen, I mean, it's
just they just they just they snapped the ball and
he's run.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yea, they're all he's getting over ten tackles again for
the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
If you're the Broncos running running back to the offensive line,
you are loving that particular statistic.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah. There, Their linebacking chorus is not very good.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They have some decent players there, but they've just not
been able to put it together. They're they're they're front four.
They come after the pass with four. They don't like
the blitz. They come after you with four. Their front
four is pretty good, effactly. I'll say a lot to that.
The U c L a edge rusher that a lot
of us talked about here prior to the gap maybe
a lot too, maybe wanting a little bit and uh
here in Denver he's in that rotation off the edge.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
They use him as a situational pass rusho off. He's
similar to the way Benito was used early.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Uh you know, where Benito was only like a third
down guy or obvious pass down guy.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
They used a lot too in that kind of role.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
They've got some They've got some some ballers on that
front four, but that linebacking chorus suspect, and I think
that this is a game where you might be able
to get the run game going, and you might be
able to get the tight ends going a little bit
against this cover three.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Well, they got one of my guys on the front line,
the forrest but bus, yes, I remember, but when we
were in San Francisco, large man, and when you talk
about his arm length as far as ability to press
a guy and put him back in the backfield, he
definitely had that that ability. So it's going to be
really interesting to see the inner battles on the offensive
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line and across the board and see how both teams
actually settles in and who wins that tough man type
of game.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And to me this when you had.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
This particular point, like I said, every game for me
and is a playoff game, So so you have to
approach it that way.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Either it's punched or be punched in the mouth. Right,
they're front.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Four, that's that's the strength of the unit. They get
the interior guys. Divorce Buckter you mentioned, Grover Stewart is
the other the other tackle there by the way the
backup tackle Adam Gatsis some Broncos fans may be familiar
with still in the league at thirty two years old.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Off the edge Dale with a gang bo I can't
always push.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Of that name Latu Latsu who we mentioned, and Quity
pay or the main guys off the edge tyke Lewis
as well.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
They've got a four man rotation.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Off the edge and they like to keep those guys fresh.
They'll get after you a little bit, but it's the
linebacking course really suspect. With Zira Franklin and e J. Speed,
you handled most of the duties there. Those guys just
just or not. They're they're they're leftover guys from Eberflus's
Tampa too, you know, they're that he tried to run
and they're just they're just not really prepped for what
it is that they're supposed to be doing in this defense.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, it's going to be it's going to be definitely interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And and these all are the four games where you
really look at the money that the Broncos spent on
an offensive line and say, well, are you really getting
your money's worth? Because this is where your guys need
to show up the most, and especially the guys who
are those big money.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Guys, because we continue.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
To talk about it for the past couple of weeks,
the Bronco's running game not getting to where it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Needs to be. But this this Sunday, we give them
an opportunity to prove themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, well, Broncos country. Now I gotta hit a break.
We'll be back after this. That's been all Bridmigferguson, Zach
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Speaker 2 (17:44):
Stacy Futo says, man, you guys got me hyped. I
might go punch my boss in the throat. Oh Stacy,
well listen, Stacy.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Big Ergenzon has giving you full permission and says he
will cover anything any financial things that are incurred for
punching your ball. He absolutely says you should punch your
boss in the throat with malice.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I never said that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
We we've got a generator over there. We can zach
Is on the boards. He can go back and check
to make sure I didn't say that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
For the record. Yes, So there's there's gonna splice it
together on a different world. He's splicing together. That's some
cloak and dagger stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm just saying it'll sound, uh, totally janky, but we
got you covered stations.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Watch him in the throat.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
His boss will let him text during the His boss
doesn't let him extuur in the show. He only gets
a text on his'n a break or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Stacy. You tell your boss. You tell your boss he
can take that, and he can shove it. Now.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
See see that we have on a record as one
Benjamin all Bright.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I did not say it would cover any financial liability him.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You tell you, but you have to listen here. You
did have your boss come here, meet me.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Over here at camera two, look me directly in the eye,
and you tell him he could take that.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
He could turn it sideways. And you know what the
rock says. You don't listen to Ben, Just take take it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Take a lot of bathroom breaks so you can go
into the laboratory and text and tweet.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Do do it that way. Don't listen to Ben. You
should listen to me. Five six six zero is the
text we're talking to. You said a little bit with
the Bill Belichick ss now Rich rode back to West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But we were talking a little bit about the coach
Prime effect on the landscape of college football, and you
said you want to get into a.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Little and I love this.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Here's why I love it is because it has it's
twofold for me because I go back and look at
what Dan Campbell is doing with the Detroit Lions, right,
and the one thing they have in common.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
These are ex players.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And for the longest time, ex players were not viewed
in this capacity because it was an I don't know
where the narrative came from, but the narrative that former
players don't want to work, which is a bunch of
cow chips, right, But watching Prime do what he's doing
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and knowing as though he's got a couple of former
players on his coaching staff, Now have they hit the
pinnacle of college football?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Just shit, know they haven't.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
But even though they haven't, they are still one of
the most publicized programs in college football. So the light
shines bright on CU and for me, I'm hoping that
that light shines brighter on former players giving them an
opportunity because Eddie George and my former teammate Keith Burns,
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you know a coaching for Tennessee State. Coach Burns is
Keith Burns a special teams coach, Eddie George is a
head coach, and they're seeming to have success on the
level that they're on, So I'm hoping that's increased opportunities.
But once again, even kind of filter into Bill Belichick,
athletic directors are saying, well, we need to find a
way to take a little from the NFL we give
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to them with our athletes, Well let's take a little
from them to help build our programs. And that's kind
of what we're seeing, and I'm hoping that trend continues
as more former players get these company opportunities.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, you know that is It's a funny thing because
for a long time you had guys who were you know,
former players, sometimes as coaches. I mean, Mike Ditka obviously,
you know comes to mind there, and you know you
had guys like like Dan Reeves or Marty Schottenheimer, you know,
who were her former players that you know, but it
wasn't you know, a lot of times coaches.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It was its own separate fraternity.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And then you know, towards the late nineties early two thousands,
you started getting the backup quarterback phenomenon, right, Yes, Yeah,
lotd that.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
You had the Frank Reichs, you had.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
The Jason Garrett, Jason Garretts, you had the Doug Peterson's.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, Gary kubi you had the backup quarterback phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Because those guys had been around the coaches for the
who it was gonna rub off on them? And all
that kind of off the thing. Admittedly, those guys mostly
had success. I mean, Frank Reich and Doug Peterson teamed
up to get a Super Bowl and in Philadelphia, Gary
Kubiak obviously got a Super Bowl. Jason Garrett didn't get
a super Bowl, but they Dallas was a pretty good
football team when he was there.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
That was the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And we're starting to see some of the player sort
of filter back and the other players filter into the
coaching ranks as we as we go along.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It hasn't it hasn't been as.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Widespread as pervasive as perhaps I think a lot of
former players would like, but we're starting to see some
of that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Obviously with the Demico Ryan.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Situation and Dan Campbell and you know, and guys like that,
we're certainly seeing a little bit of that. The problem was,
I think he had this era where they did run
some former players in there, and you got some goofballs
man Like, with all due respect to Mike Singletary, what
was he doing with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well, see that that was a little bit different because
CoA singatur was a very intense guy, right, and he
played the same way that he coached. And sometimes it
doesn't really translate to the players.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
They don't really understand that. They know me, don't get that.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
But this is why during this year's higher cycle, we
saw a lot of young coaches get those opportunities, and
some are not formal players, like we think of Dan Canilis,
who's with the Carolina Panthers, a very young coach who
got an opportunity to lead a team for the first time,
and depending on how well he does with the Panthers,
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that would determine whether other coaches in similar positions get
an opportunity. This is why I look, man, I tell
people for transparency, I'm gonna say it. I know it's
very difficult for minority coaches to get jobs, both on
the professional level and on the collegiate level. That's why
I root for even if I don't know them, I
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root for them because if they do well, it opens
the door and at least starts a conversation for other coaches.
And this is why, you know, the whole thing with
Fime I root a form as a player and one
of those players I looked up to, you know, growing up,
And I just hope that he continues for once to
stay in Boulder right and continue to take this program
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to new heights, because it opens the door for not
just other minority coaches, but coaches who would normally get
that interview, who would normally have.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That athletic director call them.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And even though the whole thing with Bill Belichick, I'm
still scratching my head on it. The idea is that
if he does well, not just in the first year,
if it's consistent, it may open the door for other
coaches who are in that realm that he's in right now.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
It might and that may filter down because you know,
in the NIL era, you may approach college sports more
like the NFL does, more of a professional.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Regime than you do.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It'll still be about, you know, recruiting and re recruiting
your own roster, but the financial incentive.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Involved, there's there's certain ways to go with that.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think that it is fascinating to look at the
landscape of college football shifting in the NIL era.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
You know, TJ. Award, who you had on the other night,
was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's funny because there was a conversation that came up
very the next day about some NIL agent who was
taking twenty percent cut.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It's taking twenty percent cut. That's ridiculous. Twenty percent and
NFL agents don't even get that.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
NFL agents only get three percent exactly maximum.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Now, some of the bigger ages take even less than
that to be competitive, but three percent is the maximum amount.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You can at all chargesn't evolution.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You ans your marketing guys take a little bit more
because they're not bound by the NFL rules and all
that kind of stuff. But at the end of the day,
somebody nil guys that are taking a twenty percent cut,
That is like, what are you doing? Let somebody take
a twenty percent cut of your money?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, I can understand why why things have kind of
gotten to this point because every parent thinks that their
kid is the next biggest thing, and they hear about
this kid, you know, across town getting this nil money,
whether it's high school of college, and they think that
their son or daughter can do the same thing and
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because of that. Once again, here's that that d word, desperation.
Desperation makes people do dumb things exactly. So you're thinking, okay, well,
this agent or this runner is telling you, hey, listen,
we can get this for for for your kid. So
you sign on to it with that twenty percent, and
you end up losing out on a lot of money
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yourself because there are a lot of parents who are
eager to capitalize on the NILS, but they don't really
understand it.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And I guess I don't even have kids, and my
my you know, my son's the next west Wes Welker.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
What I don't even have kids. My son's the next
west Welker. Just ask me the next Wes Welker. Oh
why is because he's more quicker than fast, real much
real lunch bell guy, gritty, real lunch beg and little coaches.
Son you run every round on the road. He's got
(27:08):
a guy you'd you'd let your daughter date. No noted
language is fun. Yeah, it's no. My son over, there's
ex secrets. That's my that's my son. Get there. Look
do you see the resemblance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see right,
there's not I'm not five eights. Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Really it's not wow, that's last night. Yeah, yeah, fair,
Although I'm not fine. I'm actually I'm legitimately five to ten.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I believe it. But I shot loaded be her. Yeah
he did?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Did?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He got me right there too. I was like, oh,
you know what. And it's funny because like Mario and
Ryan used to get all five, I'm like, let's go
get a measuring tape right now. Yes, like like I
have two compressed discs and I'm still five ten.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, it was very interesting about the past five seconds.
He says, Zach, there's not too many times that you
get under my skin.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Not that Ben is at a loss for words. It's
almost like you stopped him right in his tracks with that.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
He had some other things he wanted to say, some crappy,
creative things, but he was like, stop, it's gonna stop.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And it's because I melt the clock out. I want
to killing Moore.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Last night he was talking about what a big Killing
More fan he used to be, and I didn't get
him a lot of chance to like the way.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It was framed. It kind of like he was still
a big killing more fan.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
After I got done talking about how his resume had been,
you know, but not great, and then we just went
to break and the end, I just melt the clock
count on. No, he was getting me back for that,
which was which, by the way, was great.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Like I love reading.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I look like I used to. Grant knows now like
Grant has gotten to the point where he knows if
I'm trying to like melt the clock on him or
whatever to get him cornered into a point.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
He's got the point.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So I actually hadn't quite figured me out yet on that.
So I got I had the chance to get him
last night, and so he was He's just shoot me
back for that. Well, Denise, like maybe it would drop
me down to five eight, you know at that point,
so stopping you out, Yeah, dropping my knees off, bunder
bringing bringing me down to five five eight, get out
of here with five eight, judge a heighter.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You might ever bringing you to the combine. You might
have to bring that team measure off just to check
I feel free. I'm even hurt feelings every single time.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'm never like the looks on their faces every time, Like, man,
he really is five ten, okay, because I also like
I hunch a little. I have like the worst posture
in the world, like I do. I hunch over all
the time, you know, So if.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
He were to straighten out your back, get you upright,
get me up right, and some change actually, so wait, wait, okay,
a whole lot of change.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Wait wait a minute. When the bill comes five ten
and then he put some change on it, there's there's
a little change. I'm clearing the bar with room spare?
Is that one penny or two domes?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Like, we're not we're not coking, we're not showing quarters
under my heels to get me up there or whatever.
I've never he got me on that would got oh man,
I think it was Angie, our old board. I used
to be a Daria on her sister station ninety three three,
which she used to be here. She got me once
it because I said five ten, I used to be
five eleven. But my spine's like so coppressed now that
I'm down to five ten, and she was like five
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eleven maybe in heels, and I was like I had
nothing for that at that moment.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
That would stop me cold, nothing more, you do know, Also, Ben,
as we age.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
You know, our our skeleton structures starts to uh kind
of shrinkle a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I was all right, George, shrinkage.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It was cold.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I have I do. I've had, like I've got compression
in the you know, there's some of those discs are
worn out and all that kind of stuff I have.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I used to be five eleven. I am not five
eleven anymore. I'm five like five ten and eight. But
I'm hanging on to that eighth f you know, like, listen,
you don't have to sell it on me.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Sell it that course, sell it to me. You can't
see me at studio.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Was like, yeah, you know that eighth of an inch,
like because that was the thing like when I was
on the dating apps or whatever. I don't know if
I was talking to you about this the other day,
which I have oft technology is you never came up
with the dating app era, but like I did, and
so like I would show up on these days they're.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Like, you're actually five ten?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Is you put in your rows that everybody in those
half way six feet wlait?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Does you pull out like an actual measures? I mean,
I think you know, like.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
If you're if you're looking for a certain height you
kind of know where your cutoff is from my level right.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Away, I visit thing. I can size. I can size
people like this is the thing. I can size people
up and get their height and wait. Usually this is
from size and guys up for you know, for the game.
I can what I mean this is the letters is
like going on a date. She called.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I can see a woman showing up with a cardboard
cut out wall, whether it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Be this tall to dine, just like a ride on
the corner. I better fight. Apparently, and apparently this is
the thing I did not.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Know, but apparently this is a thing like where dudes
lie about their height and they all say they're six
feet and they're not. I did it?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Do you listen? There's a lot of pressure to be dude.
What because you have to have a certain uh eye quality,
you have to have your hair.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
It's just like when did we become a society where
we're biased against guys because they don't have all their hair?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
What if? What if guys did the same thing to women.
Your hair is not as long as I want you
to wear, So now you got to wear extensions? We
do that?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
They do you mean you need some guys? Oh that
way some guys are that way. Wow, I mean I'm
I'm you know, I mean, I mean Zach is not.
I'm saying Ben's right. Yeah, I mean it's unfortunate. Truth,
girl show up with min haircuts?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
You know? Is?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Are you that your brand? I'm okay with it. I'm
dated women with short hair, short hair.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, I'm just saying I'll find you attractive.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
That's that's whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But I'm just saying some dudes have everybody's got what
they find attractive that I'm not judging or anything like that.
If a girl's got the six foot height limiting, okay, cool, whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But I'm just saying, like it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Was one of those things like when I did that,
when I was on those apps and I would go
on dates, that was the thing. Like girls the show,
they'd be like, wow, you are actually your height, You're
not like you know, you said six foot, you said
five ten.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I expected somebody five six just based on my spirit
scownie points.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I think so because like you know, when you underpromise
and over deliver, like I think that goes a long way.
I think a lot of dudes set themselves up for
failure trying to put these profiles together that have all
this expectation, and you get there and you're not that boy.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'm glad I'm not on this dating scene anymore. Man,
this thing is out of control. Yeah, we gotta hit
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Colts coming up.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
We have enjoyed a season where.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
The Broncos pass rush has certainly gotten after the quarterback
a lot more than in previous years. It was a
problem under the Fangio defense. It really wasn't a team
that came away with a lot of sacks. Now we're
a big time sack team. I think they'd be able
to get after Anthony Richardson, who some have said is
kind of a diet Cam Newton. He has one of
the lowest pressure to sack rates out there in the league.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
Tough guy to bring down. I mean he's a big boy,
he's tough guy to bring down. Runs the ball fairly
well the Colts do you like to run the ball.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
The main component of their past game is the deep shots,
specifically to Alec Pierce, the guy who averages over twenty
two yards per catch leads the league.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
That is an insane number in this row of football.
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Will the Broncos pass rush be able to frazzle Anthidi Richardson?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
Yes, the answer to that question, it's absolutely yes. He's
still the Richie quarterback even though he is second big player.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
But make it strong.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
I mean, look, I mean he's a second year player,
but he's still the rookie because that first year he
didn't really play because of the show of the injury,
right right, so he said he watched. But this guy
is too athletic. He's talented. I like the comparison to
Cam Newton two on. This guy's two hundred and forty
four pounds. Now, if you think you just gonna run
up on him and he's just gonna lay down for you,
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you got noth thing coming.
Speaker 2 (01:57):
I mean, he's got.
Speaker 3 (01:59):
Real they thighs where if you don't hit him the
right way, you could absolutely hurt yourself. So I can
see the Colts actually using a lot of the RPO
college type game against the Broncos, who, from the edge standpoint,
is talking about Nick Benito loves to get up the field.
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Don't be surprised if they say, well, you know what,
we're gonna utilize your strength against you. Allow Benito to
get upfield, slap him by, and then it's gonna open
up that that d gap book, you know. So if
Anthony Richardson wants to step up, he's gonna have an
escape hatch. Now that's something that the Bronco is gonna
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have to tend with because in weeks past you haven't
had to utilize a guy from a spy standpoint, And
I know against the Baltimore Ravens, the game plan was,
we're gonna use guys to spy because you're gonna crowd
the line of swimmers, drop out, force him to think,
use some of your outside past Russians. We saw, you know,
(03:01):
Jonah ellis us in that Baltimore game to be able
to drop out and spy. But Richison is just as
talented from a running standpoint as Lamar, and he's big,
so they're gonna have to rally and tackle and the
biggest thing for me not wanting to put too many
players in space.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Yeah, this is it's interesting.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
He has not been sacked very much, No, only eleven
times on the season, has not been sacked very much,
but he's been good for a fumble and an interception, uh,
basically per game over the course of the season this year.
Anthony Richardson not not exactly the most uh, not exactly
the most careful with the ball is probably the best
(03:44):
way to put that.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
He's uh, he's just you know, he's got some Jameis Winstonton.
You got a little lord delivered from the pick sixers, right,
He's yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
It's when you look at at what he's been able
to do this season, and it's tough because you know,
he's a.
Speaker 2 (04:01):
Guy who he's struggling with the intermediate game.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
And it's not that the game is too fast forwarm,
he just hasn't learned anticipatory throwing yet.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Right, So most of.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Their game is either played behind a line of scrimmage
or with huge vertical shots, specifically to Alec Pierce, who
is deceptively fast. Yes, he's white. Hey, look I mean
he leads the NFL yards perception. Number two is Jalen
Wattle and Jaylen Wattle's four yards perception behind him. Alec
Pierce averages twenty two point two yards perception, Jayalen Wadle averages.
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Eighteen point one.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Eighteen point one is huge in today's game, and that's
still way behind where this guy is.
Speaker 3 (04:38):
So that tells me they take calculate the shots. And
playing against Anthony Richardson, even though he's a rookie, are
you playing more zone to playing more man? Because if
you play more zone, right, it leaves you open for
those little spaces down the field, a short intermediate asking
(05:00):
yardage that the Colts can take advantage of it.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
But also it allows.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
The defense to keep everything in front of him and
then play. If Richardson runs the ball at some point,
you're gonna have to run some man coverage at some point,
and That's what I'm thinking, and.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
They Riches to pull the ball down and try to
get on the perimal You're gonna see a lot of that.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
By the way, I said Jayla Waller, I met James
Williams looking right at it.
Speaker 2 (05:21):
I don't know what's wrong with me, but.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
I'm looking right at it is Jameson Williams who had
eighteen point two.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Not Jayalen Waller.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
I yeah, I don't you know. What they do is
predicated on the run game. They want to play a
ball control type of game. And when you eventually do
suck those safeties up and get them down to the
box and they get that one on one on the outside,
they want to take a deep, deep shot to Alec Pierce.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Josh Dowen is probably gonna be uh, he's been hurting.
We'll see if he's back for this game. They got
the buy. We try to get him healthy.
Speaker 1 (05:47):
But they've got a good receiving trio when he's on
the when he's on the field, between my him.
Speaker 2 (05:51):
Michael Pittman and Alick Pierce, they've got some good receivers.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Okay, when we when we look at this game and
we break it down, the first thing we look at
the outside with the corners and we can say, well,
there's the Cleveland game Levi Wallason play well, So if
the Broncos fix that issue, they'll be Okay. Now that
sounds great on the surface, but because you're dealing with
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Jonathan Taylor, who is a game wrecord himself on the ground,
and you have a quarterback who can wreck you from
a rushing standpoint as well. The safeties, right Brandon Jones, PJ. Lot,
They are going to be key this game, very very key.
The reason I say that the first thing is communication,
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second thing is execution. Can you execute the defense that advanced?
Joseph calls for sixty minutes to a tee because one
busted players. All it takes with these receivers. They're that good,
that's all because now if they get that deep shot,
now you're worrying about the deep shot, the quarterback run
the ball, and the running back. That's too many things
(07:00):
you got to take something away from. And I hope
the guys who play in the back end, if they're disguising,
don't disguise yourself. How to your responsibility. Do not do
that because if you're doing that, you're doing your surf
in the defense, and the guys who play on the.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Corners, you're doing them at the service.
Speaker 1 (07:15):
On the outside. You got Michael Pittman who's six foot four.
You got to Alan Pierce who's six three to eleven.
Those are big guys, and Pierce is deceptively fast and
sixty three to eleven. He doesn't look like he runs
as fast as he does, but he does.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Like he runs every get.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Out, every bit of four three nine, and he runs
every bit of it. I mean he is you know
he used to see like remember when you watch Jordan Nelson,
you could tell he was fast because the little legs
were turning. This guy's sixty three. He doesn't look legs
don't look like they're doing that, but he will. He
takes up a big chunk every time he does. Remind
you a little bit of Matt Jones. I don't know
if you remember him. He played quarterback for Jacksonville. Yeah,
play quarterback in Arkansas. I've heard a wide receiver. He
was six foot six to four to three forty. He
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didn't look like he was looking.
Speaker 2 (07:51):
He was jotting. But because they'll.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Stride a long he would get up. He would eat
a huge chunk. Alan Pierce is kind of the same way.
He's not not the quickest guy in and out of.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
His break the man he is straight line fast. Well.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Once again, the idea is that when you look at
the Colts, I mean, I don't want to build them
up too much, but also I don't want to undermine.
I don't I don't want to do it because if
you're not on your a game and you're not communicating
what we've seen, and not just the Broncos, but defensive
units all season long. When you're playing zone coverage and
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you don't play it the right way, you don't hit
your drops, you don't look to find out before the
ball is snap, which guys can hurt me, not on
the same side that I am standing on, but on
the opposite side. And because that's how they get you,
they're all it's almost like a bait and switch. They
puts someone in front of you because they want to
throw behind you. But the progression for the quarterback is
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one two, one two three, hitch your landmarks, communicate, play
with your eyes. Don't chase ghosts. Because you start chasing ghosts,
that's gonna be a problem. But that could happen if
Jonathan Taylor starts to get hot, that can cause problems
for the Broncos defense.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Here's the big chunk play guy.
Speaker 1 (09:03):
Most of his receptions, they're not he doesn't have like
one hundred yard reception. That's skewing the totals here, by
the way, either most of he just gets a lot
of thirty two thirty nine, thirty nine, forty four yard typeers,
big chunk receptions, and that puts some in field goal
range and you know, sometimes allows them to get to touchdown.
They want to be a ground and pound team. They
want to be an RPO team. Shane Stikeen wants to do.
(09:24):
You harken back to when he was at the Chargers
when they had Herbert. They want to run that kind
of offense. Now they have to run the ball a
little bit more than they like because Richardson.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Is not a great passer.
Speaker 1 (09:33):
So you can also go back to his tenure when
he was with Philadelphia with Hertz, who had arguably his
most successful season.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
With Shane Stikeen, it's that's kind of what it is.
Speaker 1 (09:44):
There's a lot of read option look type stuff for
the quarterback.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
You got to stay keyed as a linebacker.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
This is where zone coverage, when you run too much
of it, it hurts you because now you've got your corners
and your second level players or linebackers, they're sitting off.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Well.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
Once you go with the r PO, that's play in
my opinion, that's play action, another form of play action.
Those linebackers have to step up, right, they have to
honor the run. But now this is where and I
don't want to get too deep into the weeds with this,
but you run plays they call ex drift, You fake
the r PO that guy that acts as he runs
the slam when boom is right there, because you got
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the defenders sitting off and you got everyone clamping down
inside the.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
Stop stap to run the middle. And what you're creating,
essentially ben is run after catch.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So at some point I would love to see the
Broncos defenders on Sunday, even if it's zone line up
like it's pressed, just to kind of talk Richardson out
of throwing those quick slants or those quick outs players,
so those quick hitter plays, just to make him think
just a little because now he's still a young quarterback
(10:51):
coming into a loud environment, right, because look as old stadium,
it's not like the RCA Dome, the old one.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
That one was loud. Yeah, it's not as loud. I've
been to the I've been to look as well many times.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
With the combine every Year's No, it's not as loud
as as some of these some of these dome stadium
certainly it's not as loud as to Detroit as these days.
Uh as well, and you know, and then you're not
used to that at hide home. You're not gonna get
that when you're out there on offense.
Speaker 2 (11:16):
You're Denver, it's gonna be a little loud. I mean
it should be.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
I'm hoping Broncos fans are going to make it a
playoff atmosphere here because we're.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Going it's don't get it twisted. This is a playoff game.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Well, but I hope the idea is that we're going
to make it a playoff atmosphere.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
It is a playoff atmosphere. This is a playoff game.
You can't have you can't have the four team.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
You lose this game, all four teams that are competing
for a wild card, and don't sleep on since he
is the fifth all four, you don't have the tiebreaker.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
Two. No, you don't. You say you can't lose this game.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
That's the reason, and I know it sounds hyperbolic, but
that's the reason I keep talking about just being the
biggest game in Denver since the run to the super Bowl.
Speaker 2 (11:52):
This is it.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
Well, I remember, wa you probably is you lose, You're
probably out listen. I remember telling Ryan Edwards when I
was on a Sports too that every game from that
point where they lost against Kansas City, every game in
my opinion, was a must win game. And I know
he didn't see it that way because the Broncos still
could get it to the playoffs. And I say no,
(12:12):
because if you are saying that you are turning paid
and you're trying to set or reset the standard, that's
got to be the mentality.
Speaker 2 (12:21):
Yeah, that way that no player.
Speaker 3 (12:23):
No coach, take any opponent, no matter what their regents
are or.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Granted right, right, that's got to be the mentality. It does.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
And you're coming off I mean both you teams are
coming off of bye week. You're not getting the advantage
of a short week team coming you know, on the road,
losing a day of practice.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
Both of you coming off the buy you're gonna be
well rested, well prepared for this thing.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
I think the advantage here for the Broncos lies in
their offense going against the Colts defense.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Colts defense led by Gus Bradley.
Speaker 1 (12:51):
Uh they run a mixture, They have some some some
middlefield open concepts, but a lot of cover three. Uh
as Gus is you know comes from that tree where
they where they were on the cover three and their
defense has struggled, specifically.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
With stopping to run.
Speaker 1 (13:07):
This could be a gut right game for the Broncos
run game because safety Nick Cross is I think forty
eight tackles away on the season for breaking the Sat
Steve Atwater season tackle mark for.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
A safety. That's crazy.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Yeah, their safety is making an insane amount of tackles,
which tells you the runners are getting into the second
level a crazy amount.
Speaker 2 (13:31):
See.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
I know all too well about that scenario, Ben, because
when I played for the Broncos, we were playing the
Colts and Peyton Man was playing for the team and
Al Wilson had a club in his hands so we
couldn't tackle.
Speaker 2 (13:50):
We didn't have John Lynch in that game.
Speaker 3 (13:53):
Either, And dude, I think I made about sixteen tackles.
This was the infamous game where the tables were turned
over right the gator, Right, this is the gat This was.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
How you know the game to go to NFL film
for the end of high like this is what this
was the game.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
And I was so pissed because as a safety, you
want to make sure if you if you're hovering.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
Around eight tag was a game. That's that's that's modern.
Speaker 3 (14:21):
But if you're making thirteen to sixteen, I mean, it's
just they just they just they snapped the ball and
he's run.
Speaker 1 (14:29):
Yea, they're all he's getting over ten tackles again for
the Broncos.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
If you're the Broncos running running back to the offensive line,
you are loving that particular statistic.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah. There, Their linebacking chorus is not very good.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
They have some decent players there, but they've just not
been able to put it together. They're they're they're front four.
They come after the pass with four. They don't like
the blitz. They come after you with four. Their front
four is pretty good, effactly. I'll say a lot to that.
The U c L a edge rusher that a lot
of us talked about here prior to the gap maybe
a lot too, maybe wanting a little bit and uh
here in Denver he's in that rotation off the edge.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
They use him as a situational pass rusho off. He's
similar to the way Benito was used early.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
Uh you know, where Benito was only like a third
down guy or obvious pass down guy.
Speaker 2 (15:09):
They used a lot too in that kind of role.
Speaker 1 (15:10):
They've got some They've got some some ballers on that
front four, but that linebacking chorus suspect, and I think
that this is a game where you might be able
to get the run game going, and you might be
able to get the tight ends going a little bit
against this cover three.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Well, they got one of my guys on the front line,
the forrest but bus, yes, I remember, but when we
were in San Francisco, large man, and when you talk
about his arm length as far as ability to press
a guy and put him back in the backfield, he
definitely had that that ability. So it's going to be
really interesting to see the inner battles on the offensive
(15:47):
line and across the board and see how both teams
actually settles in and who wins that tough man type
of game.
Speaker 2 (15:56):
And to me this when you had.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
This particular point, like I said, every game for me
and is a playoff game, So so you have to
approach it that way.
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Either it's punched or be punched in the mouth. Right,
they're front.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Four, that's that's the strength of the unit. They get
the interior guys. Divorce Buckter you mentioned, Grover Stewart is
the other the other tackle there by the way the
backup tackle Adam Gatsis some Broncos fans may be familiar
with still in the league at thirty two years old.
Speaker 2 (16:21):
Off the edge Dale with a gang bo I can't
always push.
Speaker 1 (16:26):
Of that name Latu Latsu who we mentioned, and Quity
pay or the main guys off the edge tyke Lewis
as well.
Speaker 2 (16:31):
They've got a four man rotation.
Speaker 1 (16:32):
Off the edge and they like to keep those guys fresh.
They'll get after you a little bit, but it's the
linebacking course really suspect. With Zira Franklin and e J. Speed,
you handled most of the duties there. Those guys just
just or not. They're they're they're leftover guys from Eberflus's
Tampa too, you know, they're that he tried to run
and they're just they're just not really prepped for what
it is that they're supposed to be doing in this defense.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
Well, it's going to be it's going to be definitely interesting.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
And and these all are the four games where you
really look at the money that the Broncos spent on
an offensive line and say, well, are you really getting
your money's worth? Because this is where your guys need
to show up the most, and especially the guys who
are those big money.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Guys, because we continue.
Speaker 3 (17:17):
To talk about it for the past couple of weeks,
the Bronco's running game not getting to where it.
Speaker 2 (17:22):
Needs to be. But this this Sunday, we give them
an opportunity to prove themselves.
Speaker 1 (17:27):
Yeah, well, Broncos country. Now I gotta hit a break.
We'll be back after this. That's been all Bridmigferguson, Zach
saepeers here with you. Five six six nine zero is
the text line.
Speaker 2 (17:44):
Stacy Futo says, man, you guys got me hyped. I
might go punch my boss in the throat. Oh Stacy,
well listen, Stacy.
Speaker 1 (17:51):
Big Ergenzon has giving you full permission and says he
will cover anything any financial things that are incurred for
punching your ball. He absolutely says you should punch your
boss in the throat with malice.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
I never said that.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
We we've got a generator over there. We can zach
Is on the boards. He can go back and check
to make sure I didn't say that.
Speaker 2 (18:13):
For the record. Yes, So there's there's gonna splice it
together on a different world. He's splicing together. That's some
cloak and dagger stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:22):
I'm just saying it'll sound, uh, totally janky, but we
got you covered stations.
Speaker 2 (18:26):
Watch him in the throat.
Speaker 1 (18:32):
His boss will let him text during the His boss
doesn't let him extuur in the show. He only gets
a text on his'n a break or whatever.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
Stacy. You tell your boss. You tell your boss he
can take that, and he can shove it. Now.
Speaker 3 (18:45):
See see that we have on a record as one
Benjamin all Bright.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
I did not say it would cover any financial liability him.
Speaker 2 (18:56):
You tell you, but you have to listen here. You
did have your boss come here, meet me.
Speaker 1 (18:58):
Over here at camera two, look me directly in the eye,
and you tell him he could take that.
Speaker 2 (19:03):
He could turn it sideways. And you know what the
rock says. You don't listen to Ben, Just take take it.
Speaker 3 (19:10):
Take a lot of bathroom breaks so you can go
into the laboratory and text and tweet.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Do do it that way. Don't listen to Ben. You
should listen to me. Five six six zero is the
text we're talking to. You said a little bit with
the Bill Belichick ss now Rich rode back to West Virginia.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
But we were talking a little bit about the coach
Prime effect on the landscape of college football, and you
said you want to get into a.
Speaker 2 (19:34):
Little and I love this.
Speaker 3 (19:35):
Here's why I love it is because it has it's
twofold for me because I go back and look at
what Dan Campbell is doing with the Detroit Lions, right,
and the one thing they have in common.
Speaker 2 (19:49):
These are ex players.
Speaker 3 (19:51):
And for the longest time, ex players were not viewed
in this capacity because it was an I don't know
where the narrative came from, but the narrative that former
players don't want to work, which is a bunch of
cow chips, right, But watching Prime do what he's doing
(20:12):
and knowing as though he's got a couple of former
players on his coaching staff, Now have they hit the
pinnacle of college football?
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Just shit, know they haven't.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
But even though they haven't, they are still one of
the most publicized programs in college football. So the light
shines bright on CU and for me, I'm hoping that
that light shines brighter on former players giving them an
opportunity because Eddie George and my former teammate Keith Burns,
(20:46):
you know a coaching for Tennessee State. Coach Burns is
Keith Burns a special teams coach, Eddie George is a
head coach, and they're seeming to have success on the
level that they're on, So I'm hoping that's increased opportunities.
But once again, even kind of filter into Bill Belichick,
athletic directors are saying, well, we need to find a
way to take a little from the NFL we give
(21:09):
to them with our athletes, Well let's take a little
from them to help build our programs. And that's kind
of what we're seeing, and I'm hoping that trend continues
as more former players get these company opportunities.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, you know that is It's a funny thing because
for a long time you had guys who were you know,
former players, sometimes as coaches. I mean, Mike Ditka obviously,
you know comes to mind there, and you know you
had guys like like Dan Reeves or Marty Schottenheimer, you know,
who were her former players that you know, but it
wasn't you know, a lot of times coaches.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
It was its own separate fraternity.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
And then you know, towards the late nineties early two thousands,
you started getting the backup quarterback phenomenon, right, Yes, Yeah,
lotd that.
Speaker 2 (21:52):
You had the Frank Reichs, you had.
Speaker 1 (21:54):
The Jason Garrett, Jason Garretts, you had the Doug Peterson's.
Speaker 2 (21:58):
Yeah, Gary kubi you had the backup quarterback phenomenon.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
Because those guys had been around the coaches for the
who it was gonna rub off on them? And all
that kind of off the thing. Admittedly, those guys mostly
had success. I mean, Frank Reich and Doug Peterson teamed
up to get a Super Bowl and in Philadelphia, Gary
Kubiak obviously got a Super Bowl. Jason Garrett didn't get
a super Bowl, but they Dallas was a pretty good
football team when he was there.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
That was the thing.
Speaker 1 (22:20):
And we're starting to see some of the player sort
of filter back and the other players filter into the
coaching ranks as we as we go along.
Speaker 2 (22:27):
It hasn't it hasn't been as.
Speaker 1 (22:28):
Widespread as pervasive as perhaps I think a lot of
former players would like, but we're starting to see some
of that.
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Obviously with the Demico Ryan.
Speaker 1 (22:35):
Situation and Dan Campbell and you know, and guys like that,
we're certainly seeing a little bit of that. The problem was,
I think he had this era where they did run
some former players in there, and you got some goofballs
man Like, with all due respect to Mike Singletary, what
was he doing with the forty nine ers.
Speaker 3 (22:52):
Well, see that that was a little bit different because
CoA singatur was a very intense guy, right, and he
played the same way that he coached. And sometimes it
doesn't really translate to the players.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
They don't really understand that. They know me, don't get that.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
But this is why during this year's higher cycle, we
saw a lot of young coaches get those opportunities, and
some are not formal players, like we think of Dan Canilis,
who's with the Carolina Panthers, a very young coach who
got an opportunity to lead a team for the first time,
and depending on how well he does with the Panthers,
(23:31):
that would determine whether other coaches in similar positions get
an opportunity. This is why I look, man, I tell
people for transparency, I'm gonna say it. I know it's
very difficult for minority coaches to get jobs, both on
the professional level and on the collegiate level. That's why
I root for even if I don't know them, I
(23:52):
root for them because if they do well, it opens
the door and at least starts a conversation for other coaches.
And this is why, you know, the whole thing with
Fime I root a form as a player and one
of those players I looked up to, you know, growing up,
And I just hope that he continues for once to
stay in Boulder right and continue to take this program
(24:16):
to new heights, because it opens the door for not
just other minority coaches, but coaches who would normally get
that interview, who would normally have.
Speaker 2 (24:26):
That athletic director call them.
Speaker 3 (24:28):
And even though the whole thing with Bill Belichick, I'm
still scratching my head on it. The idea is that
if he does well, not just in the first year,
if it's consistent, it may open the door for other
coaches who are in that realm that he's in right now.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
It might and that may filter down because you know,
in the NIL era, you may approach college sports more
like the NFL does, more of a professional.
Speaker 2 (24:52):
Regime than you do.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
It'll still be about, you know, recruiting and re recruiting
your own roster, but the financial incentive.
Speaker 2 (25:01):
Involved, there's there's certain ways to go with that.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
I think that it is fascinating to look at the
landscape of college football shifting in the NIL era.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
You know, TJ. Award, who you had on the other night,
was talking about it.
Speaker 1 (25:14):
It's funny because there was a conversation that came up
very the next day about some NIL agent who was
taking twenty percent cut.
Speaker 3 (25:22):
It's taking twenty percent cut. That's ridiculous. Twenty percent and
NFL agents don't even get that.
Speaker 2 (25:28):
NFL agents only get three percent exactly maximum.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Now, some of the bigger ages take even less than
that to be competitive, but three percent is the maximum amount.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
You can at all chargesn't evolution.
Speaker 1 (25:38):
You ans your marketing guys take a little bit more
because they're not bound by the NFL rules and all
that kind of stuff. But at the end of the day,
somebody nil guys that are taking a twenty percent cut,
That is like, what are you doing? Let somebody take
a twenty percent cut of your money?
Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, I can understand why why things have kind of
gotten to this point because every parent thinks that their
kid is the next biggest thing, and they hear about
this kid, you know, across town getting this nil money,
whether it's high school of college, and they think that
their son or daughter can do the same thing and
(26:14):
because of that. Once again, here's that that d word, desperation.
Desperation makes people do dumb things exactly. So you're thinking, okay, well,
this agent or this runner is telling you, hey, listen,
we can get this for for for your kid. So
you sign on to it with that twenty percent, and
you end up losing out on a lot of money
(26:35):
yourself because there are a lot of parents who are
eager to capitalize on the NILS, but they don't really
understand it.
Speaker 2 (26:42):
Well.
Speaker 1 (26:42):
And I guess I don't even have kids, and my
my you know, my son's the next west Wes Welker.
Speaker 2 (26:47):
What I don't even have kids. My son's the next
west Welker. Just ask me the next Wes Welker. Oh
why is because he's more quicker than fast, real much
real lunch bell guy, gritty, real lunch beg and little coaches.
Son you run every round on the road. He's got
(27:08):
a guy you'd you'd let your daughter date. No noted
language is fun. Yeah, it's no. My son over, there's
ex secrets. That's my that's my son. Get there. Look
do you see the resemblance. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see right,
there's not I'm not five eights. Wow.
Speaker 1 (27:26):
Really it's not wow, that's last night. Yeah, yeah, fair,
Although I'm not fine. I'm actually I'm legitimately five to ten.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
I believe it. But I shot loaded be her. Yeah
he did?
Speaker 3 (27:41):
Did?
Speaker 2 (27:41):
He got me right there too. I was like, oh,
you know what. And it's funny because like Mario and
Ryan used to get all five, I'm like, let's go
get a measuring tape right now. Yes, like like I
have two compressed discs and I'm still five ten.
Speaker 3 (27:55):
You know, it was very interesting about the past five seconds.
He says, Zach, there's not too many times that you
get under my skin.
Speaker 1 (28:04):
Ben.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
No, no, no, no, no, no, no no no.
Speaker 3 (28:06):
Not that Ben is at a loss for words. It's
almost like you stopped him right in his tracks with that.
Speaker 2 (28:14):
Right.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
He had some other things he wanted to say, some crappy,
creative things, but he was like, stop, it's gonna stop.
Speaker 2 (28:22):
And it's because I melt the clock out. I want
to killing Moore.
Speaker 1 (28:24):
Last night he was talking about what a big Killing
More fan he used to be, and I didn't get
him a lot of chance to like the way.
Speaker 2 (28:29):
It was framed. It kind of like he was still
a big killing more fan.
Speaker 1 (28:32):
After I got done talking about how his resume had been,
you know, but not great, and then we just went
to break and the end, I just melt the clock
count on. No, he was getting me back for that,
which was which, by the way, was great.
Speaker 2 (28:44):
Like I love reading.
Speaker 1 (28:45):
I look like I used to. Grant knows now like
Grant has gotten to the point where he knows if
I'm trying to like melt the clock on him or
whatever to get him cornered into a point.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
He's got the point.
Speaker 1 (28:54):
So I actually hadn't quite figured me out yet on that.
So I got I had the chance to get him
last night, and so he was He's just shoot me
back for that. Well, Denise, like maybe it would drop
me down to five eight, you know at that point,
so stopping you out, Yeah, dropping my knees off, bunder
bringing bringing me down to five five eight, get out
of here with five eight, judge a heighter.
Speaker 2 (29:12):
You might ever bringing you to the combine. You might
have to bring that team measure off just to check
I feel free. I'm even hurt feelings every single time.
Speaker 1 (29:22):
I'm never like the looks on their faces every time, Like, man,
he really is five ten, okay, because I also like
I hunch a little. I have like the worst posture
in the world, like I do. I hunch over all
the time, you know, So if.
Speaker 4 (29:33):
He were to straighten out your back, get you upright,
get me up right, and some change actually, so wait, wait, okay,
a whole lot of change.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Wait wait a minute. When the bill comes five ten
and then he put some change on it, there's there's
a little change. I'm clearing the bar with room spare?
Is that one penny or two domes?
Speaker 1 (29:52):
Like, we're not we're not coking, we're not showing quarters
under my heels to get me up there or whatever.
I've never he got me on that would got oh man,
I think it was Angie, our old board. I used
to be a Daria on her sister station ninety three three,
which she used to be here. She got me once
it because I said five ten, I used to be
five eleven. But my spine's like so coppressed now that
I'm down to five ten, and she was like five
(30:14):
eleven maybe in heels, and I was like I had
nothing for that at that moment.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
That would stop me cold, nothing more, you do know, Also, Ben,
as we age.
Speaker 3 (30:23):
You know, our our skeleton structures starts to uh kind
of shrinkle a little bit.
Speaker 2 (30:29):
I was all right, George, shrinkage.
Speaker 3 (30:35):
It was cold.
Speaker 2 (30:39):
I have I do. I've had, like I've got compression
in the you know, there's some of those discs are
worn out and all that kind of stuff I have.
Speaker 1 (30:43):
I used to be five eleven. I am not five
eleven anymore. I'm five like five ten and eight. But
I'm hanging on to that eighth f you know, like, listen,
you don't have to sell it on me.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
Sell it that course, sell it to me. You can't
see me at studio.
Speaker 1 (30:58):
Was like, yeah, you know that eighth of an inch,
like because that was the thing like when I was
on the dating apps or whatever. I don't know if
I was talking to you about this the other day,
which I have oft technology is you never came up
with the dating app era, but like I did, and
so like I would show up on these days they're.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Like, you're actually five ten?
Speaker 3 (31:12):
Is you put in your rows that everybody in those
half way six feet wlait?
Speaker 2 (31:16):
Does you pull out like an actual measures? I mean,
I think you know, like.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
If you're if you're looking for a certain height you
kind of know where your cutoff is from my level right.
Speaker 2 (31:24):
Away, I visit thing. I can size. I can size
people like this is the thing. I can size people
up and get their height and wait. Usually this is
from size and guys up for you know, for the game.
I can what I mean this is the letters is
like going on a date. She called.
Speaker 3 (31:36):
I can see a woman showing up with a cardboard
cut out wall, whether it.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Be this tall to dine, just like a ride on
the corner. I better fight. Apparently, and apparently this is
the thing I did not.
Speaker 1 (31:50):
Know, but apparently this is a thing like where dudes
lie about their height and they all say they're six
feet and they're not. I did it?
Speaker 2 (31:55):
Do you listen? There's a lot of pressure to be dude.
What because you have to have a certain uh eye quality,
you have to have your hair.
Speaker 3 (32:08):
It's just like when did we become a society where
we're biased against guys because they don't have all their hair?
Speaker 2 (32:13):
What if? What if guys did the same thing to women.
Your hair is not as long as I want you
to wear, So now you got to wear extensions? We
do that?
Speaker 4 (32:21):
They do you mean you need some guys? Oh that
way some guys are that way. Wow, I mean I'm
I'm you know, I mean, I mean Zach is not.
I'm saying Ben's right. Yeah, I mean it's unfortunate. Truth,
girl show up with min haircuts?
Speaker 2 (32:34):
Are you thinking?
Speaker 3 (32:35):
You know? Is?
Speaker 2 (32:35):
Are you that your brand? I'm okay with it. I'm
dated women with short hair, short hair.
Speaker 1 (32:41):
Yeah, I'm just saying I'll find you attractive.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
That's that's whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (32:45):
But I'm just saying some dudes have everybody's got what
they find attractive that I'm not judging or anything like that.
If a girl's got the six foot height limiting, okay, cool, whatever.
Speaker 2 (32:54):
But I'm just saying, like it.
Speaker 1 (32:55):
Was one of those things like when I did that,
when I was on those apps and I would go
on dates, that was the thing. Like girls the show,
they'd be like, wow, you are actually your height, You're
not like you know, you said six foot, you said
five ten.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
I expected somebody five six just based on my spirit
scownie points.
Speaker 1 (33:08):
I think so because like you know, when you underpromise
and over deliver, like I think that goes a long way.
I think a lot of dudes set themselves up for
failure trying to put these profiles together that have all
this expectation, and you get there and you're not that boy.
Speaker 2 (33:19):
I'm glad I'm not on this dating scene anymore. Man,
this thing is out of control. Yeah, we gotta hit
a break. We come back park and gave her From
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Stuff You Should Know
If you've ever wanted to know about champagne, satanism, the Stonewall Uprising, chaos theory, LSD, El Nino, true crime and Rosa Parks, then look no further. Josh and Chuck have you covered.
The Breakfast Club
The World's Most Dangerous Morning Show, The Breakfast Club, With DJ Envy And Charlamagne Tha God!