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November 11, 2025 14 mins
A Slippery Slope?
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
Your news, traffic, weather and information station. This is Charleston's
Morning News on ninety four to three WSC. Now back
to Kelly and Blace.

Speaker 2 (00:14):
A bid to overturn the right to same sex marriages
has been rejected by the Supreme Court. The justices declined
to take up the appeal from former Kentucky County Clerk
Kim Davis to overturn the twenty fifteen landmark decision. The
bid had been seen as a long shot by analysts.
Davis received national attention when she refused to issue marriage
licenses to a same sex couple due to her religious beliefs.

(00:39):
One of those couples was awarded damages by a jury
after they soon So.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
I remember back to this debate on same sex marriages
and I said, you know what love is love, and
if you want to know the ups and downs and
the pains and marriage, then have at it. But I
remember getting some serious pushback, some interesting calls at the
time over this, and it was Kelly, you know this
is a slippery slope. Uh, you know what comes after this?

(01:06):
And to their point, look at a decade later since
that decision, look at where we are with the LGB.
That added Q I A plus. I mean our kids
became a target of indoctrination. Well, there's plenty of LGB
who reject the q i A after a decade of

(01:29):
this decision moving on down the road, But most who
called honestly in the initial debate it was over paperwork.
They said, you know, my my partner, because we couldn't
be married. You know, marriage is a legally binding contract
that if you have, you know, a partner suffering medical issues,
it was necessary documentation. You need to be there for

(01:49):
your partner. So it was an interesting debate. I'm just
pointing out it's been a decade since and we have
a lot more added to the debate. Frankly, for those
who back then said well this could be a slippery slope.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, I don't agree with that. One doesn't necessarily have
to do with the other. The movement to indoctrinate the
kids and everything else has nothing to do with same
sex marriage.

Speaker 3 (02:18):
Expanding the LGB and adding the QIA.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I don't know what that mean. What is expanding the
LGB mean.

Speaker 3 (02:25):
Well, because it was always late, you know, gay lesbian
by and then we've added over the last decade the
queer I don't even know what the IA plus stands for.
But this has been expanded forever.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Was always to do with gay marriage.

Speaker 3 (02:43):
Well, it's we're talking about a group of people who
if you're talking about lesbians gays by like that same
sex coupling, you may want to be married.

Speaker 2 (02:55):
So what does that have to do with indoctrinating the children?

Speaker 3 (03:01):
Because go back to the slippery slope of allowing same
sex marriage and the conversations that came up. That was
a concern of well, you know, if we say, hey,
love is love, we can be open to this. You know,
that's fine. People were concerned. They were concerned that, well,

(03:21):
then what's next? And look at what we see in
unfold of the what's next over the last decade.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
Again, I don't know if one has to do with
the other. And does this woman have the right to
apply her religious beliefs to somebody else. You're entitled to
your own religious beliefs in how you dictate your life.
Do you have the right to dictate somebody else's according
to your religious beliefs? And as we've talked about before,

(03:50):
if there's two people that are partners in every way
in life, why shouldn't they get the same legal benefits
of that. Now, the church is something to but when
it comes to the law, so maybe call it civil
unions instead of marriage. Maybe that won't upset people quite
so much. But if there's two people that decide to

(04:10):
live their lives together as you would in a marriage,
you know, there's insurance, there's taxes, there's all of these
things that designation of marriage affects. So if two people
are committed to each other and want to live as partners,
why shouldn't they have the same enjoyment of those benefits

(04:32):
as everybody else. And it doesn't mean that all of
a sudden they're out there in doctrinating children or anything else.
That's a bunch of sickos doing that.

Speaker 3 (04:41):
That that was not my point. My point at the
time was that I accepted this back in twenty fifteen.
That you know, gay marriage, I said, is the To me,
love is love and I'll never forget getting all kinds
of backlash and pushback, and that's all I'm sharing. And
hear about that. I mean, I agree with everything you

(05:02):
just said, so I'm just sharing what what people.

Speaker 2 (05:05):
Well, I was just replying to the and now look
where we are. I mean, I get it. Uh, I'm
not happy with where we are with that stuff, but
I can't blame gay marriage for it. And I hear
where this lady's coming from. But at the same time,
that's your job, lady, and you can't expect everybody else
to follow your religious beliefs. And apparently the Supreme Court degrees.

Speaker 3 (05:28):
Well, I can see where the Supreme Court degree is here.
I mean, if her job is to issue a marriage license.
I mean, I remember going to YouTube probably, I mean
going to like the county. I mean, it's a document, right,
I just went to it was like the county building.
I can't remember the exact title county. Probably it was
the taxi and back.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Then it was like their registrar's office or something, right,
I just I will never forget they spelled they spelled
my name wrong, my married name wrong.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
And I had to go back upstairs and.

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Google.

Speaker 3 (05:59):
They gave me the last name Google. I said, I wish,
I wish I was marrying into a Google talk about
some Benjamins.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Google Google, this is.

Speaker 3 (06:10):
Not right, but she laughed. But anyway, Yeah, that's literally
I can't imagine. I can't imagine being denied that for anybity.
I mean that's she was clearly in the wrong. I'm
surprised this made it all the way with the Supreme Court,
to be honest, it.

Speaker 2 (06:26):
Is kind of surprising. We have other things to worry
about that would be way down the list, at least
on my list. The Supreme Court will consider whether or
not mail in ballance received after election day can be counted.
The case involves the Republican led lawsuit over a Mississippi
state law put in place during the COVID nineteen pandemic.
The law led mail in ballance postmarked by election day

(06:49):
to be received up to five days later. The Republican
National Committee as well as Mississippi's Republican Party sued, arguing
the state law violates federal law. The Supreme Court is
expected to hear arguments next year in rule by the summer,
ahead of next year's midterm elections.

Speaker 3 (07:06):
There's so many things state by state that are just absolute,
she in Agans. I would say, I mean, this is
this is COVID exposed so much. I mean, and what
they did to whether it was dropboxes or mail in
ballots or I mean state by state, it's shocking some
ballots can be counted that aren't even a date and

(07:29):
time stamped in some states. I mean, so I wish
they would fast track this honestly and take it up sooner.
But at least they'll get to it before the midterms,
I suppose.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
Well, you used to have to have a reason to vote.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
By absentee vote.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Absentee ballot they called it, not mail in voting, they
called it absentee voting. Yes, absentee ballot.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
I've voted by it.

Speaker 2 (07:54):
And you needed to provide an excuse to get an
absentee ballot. You were in the military, you were traveling,
going to be wherever, whatever the.

Speaker 3 (08:02):
Reason for me, it was working on election day.

Speaker 2 (08:05):
Well, for whatever the reason, you needed to provide an excuse.
And then now this is why they opened it up.
And this is what the whole motor voter thing was
to try to you know, when you're registering to when
you're going to get a driver's license, you can automatically
register a vote in all of these things. These are
all moves by the Democrats, and they were all moves

(08:26):
to manipulate the elections. And you know, it worked for
how many decades, and you know, a century and a
half before they started messing with it. And they messed
with it on purpose so that they could manipulate it.
And if you don't believe that, sorry, I mean I don't,
you know, I don't know what to tell those people.

Speaker 3 (08:48):
But well, and even early voting is a tool as well,
you may as well throw in there. And while it's
a tool, and I still don't even like that, to
be honest, no drawboxes, no mail ballots. I don't even
like early voting. I want same day voting, paper ballots.
One day accounting be nice if we had the day
off to go and vote. But you know, either way,

(09:10):
let's fix the you know what we can.

Speaker 2 (09:12):
So I hope this lawsuit, well that's why we had
it in the first place. In the machines counting all
of these things, so you know, used to go in
and you pull the little curtain behind you so nobody
could see the way that you voted, and so that
you couldn't be manipulated and your vote couldn't be manipulating.
It's all on the same day, so they can't plan,

(09:34):
they can't see where the trajectory of the elections going
and try to change it. And now they've bastardized all
of that, and then they think they call you a
lunatic when you raise concerns about that.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
Oh yeah, you're a denier. You're you election denier. Like
there's a actual, proven, legitimate cases. And look, this one's
literally square in the highest court of the land. So
one to follow for sure with mail in ballots postmarked
by election day five receive five days later and again

(10:17):
in some states. You know, I'm surprised. I can't remember
which state I went a deep dive on back during
the election in November. It's up on social at nine
four three WSC. But one of them, I mean, they
didn't even require Dayton time stamps, and they were still
counting them days after the election. It was something like
it was more than five day it was up to
ten days after the election they would still count Nothing

(10:39):
to see here now the King of pop proving he's
still king.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
Michael Jackson still making history more than sixteen years after
his death. His classic kit thriller re enters the Billboard
Hot one hundred chart this week at number ten. It
makes Jackson the first ever artist to rank in the
charts top ten in six different days decades. Jackson last
reached the top ten in twenty eighteen. When he was
featured on Drake's Don't Matter to Me. He passes Andy Williams,

(11:09):
who had placed in the top ten five in five
distinct decades. It's the most wonderful time of the year.

Speaker 3 (11:17):
I still can't believe Michael Jackson passed away sixteen years ago.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
Holy wow.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
So I grew up with the Michael Jackson poster on
my wall. You, JIMJ Fan, In fact, you mentioned Christmas
music there. I know you you talked about Andy Williams.
But Michael Jackson and the Jackson Five, their Christmas album
Santa claus Is Coming to Town remains one of my
favorite Christmas songs ever.

Speaker 2 (11:45):
Well, if you look at Michael Jackson as a little
kid with The Jackson Five, I mean, it shows what
his talent is. I mean, he's a born performer, and
you can see why he became the king of pop.
And not only you know, in his personality. Then I
always felt sorry for Michael Jackson, and you could tell
how affected he was by the life that he was,

(12:07):
in a lot of ways forced to live. And he
was quite a little performer, dancer. He had an engaging
personality and he just became reclusive and he became kind
of weird. Maybe that's an understatement, but anyway, I always

(12:27):
felt sorry for Michael.

Speaker 3 (12:29):
I just came across the weirdest thing this happened to be.
I think yesterday, this weird influencer laying out all these
pictures and videos saying the MJ so Michael Jackson with
the Elvis Tupac, they're all still alive.

Speaker 2 (12:46):
Jeez, Like what in the man.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
This guy had a ton of followers too, and the
way he was laying it out, you know, it kind
of I got drawn into it, and then I was like,
this is ridiculous. But there are a lot of people
who think that some of these people, you know, fake
their own death and they're still out there somewhere. You've
seen some of this stuff, right, You've seen where there's
a guy playing at the piano and some footage from

(13:11):
someone's it's like a Sunday service and he looks like
a fat old Elvis. They're like, see he's alive.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
Of course, I mean, didn't even do a TV special
about Elvis still being alive, Like that was years ago.

Speaker 3 (13:26):
All right, Elvis, if you're out there, give us a
call seven to two to one, talk yeah, or hit
the talkback feature. In case you don't want to, you
can hit the round Radio microphone there and the iHeart
Radio app and give give us a shout.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Well, people don't want to believe that they're dead, you know,
because they're larger than life. So anyway, but I'm with you.

Speaker 3 (13:46):
I feel for Michael Jackson what he went through.

Speaker 2 (13:48):
Pretty awesome. That Michael was on the charts for six
in six different decades, the only person who have ever done.

Speaker 3 (13:56):
That, true legend.

Speaker 1 (13:57):
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