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September 12, 2024 • 14 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Seven minutes past six o'clock. Greeting salutations. Welcome to the
Power Hour. I'm chugged Douglass. You know who you are.
We take it from there. We get one hour together.
I talk really fast. You must listen even faster. My
number is always eight two one nine, eight eighty six
a two to one WTV. And if at some point
I like your candle and you feel the need to participate,
get in, grab a line, hang on to it, don't

(00:20):
let go. And for goodness sake, don't wait until the
last five minutes of the show to try to call,
because that's not gonna work. That's not going to work.
It's not going to work. I just I'm reading over
some other news stories here. This one's out of California.
But look, you know how my wheels work. Everything's interconnected.
One thing leads to another, YadA, YadA, YadA. So we've
got the situation where the fourteen year old kid goes

(00:43):
to the school, opens fire, starts shooting people. Dad is
facing second degree murder charges because he purchased the gun.
I don't know when he purchased the gun, but he
had the gun. The gun was in the house. He
should have known better. That's basically the disposition here, the
legal mindset. He should have known better than to give
has disturbed a son access to this firearm. Right. So,

(01:04):
there's a story out of California, another tragic story, another
four year old child who has been killed by the
family dog. Being killed by the family dog. In case
I didn't say being killed by the family dog. You
want to guess what kind of dog it was. It's
not a pit bull? Oh my gosh, of course it's
a pit bull. And but people always want to come
out of the ware. Pitbulls are really very nice. When's

(01:26):
the last time you heard about the family colleague killing
a kid? Okay, So, if you've got children in your
house and you have one of these dogs, are you
not as responsible for any harm that comes to those
children because you have a dog that is known to
be over and over again violence. Are you just as
responsible as somebody who puts a rifle in a house

(01:47):
of a fourteen year old kid that probably shouldn't have
access to a gun. I think you should. I mean
to think about that. Well, we'll have to talk about that,
maybe only up to the Ohio Supreme Court for all
I know. And if it does there's somebody who would
like to be there, sitting in a very nice, freshly
pressed rope and and uh and and making decisions. He
is currently a judge on the Franklin County Court of
Common Please, and now he is looking for your vote

(02:10):
as he he runs for a seat on the Ohio
Supreme Court. Judge Dan Hawkins, how are you, sir?

Speaker 2 (02:15):
I'm well, Chuck, how are you?

Speaker 1 (02:17):
I'm I'm as good as I ever get. So, Uh,
this is this is a big deal for you. I
have not seen you face to face in a while.
We first met when you took over the uh the
environmental court here in Franklin County, which I'm sure was
just an absolute pleasure. And uh uh you're you're moving
up now you're looking for the it's the two year seat,

(02:38):
correct on the Ohio Supreme Court.

Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yes, that is correct, That is correct. It's it's a
thank you for having me. And I do remember meeting
with you back when I was in the environmental division
in Franklin count Municipal Court. I wish I could be
Derek here in person today, but state wide race requires
you to drive statewide, and I'm in the Dayton area today,
so I'm calling you from a beautiful Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
See, the fact that you just said beautiful and daton
in the same sentence makes me doubt everything you say
from this point forward. As a as a Supreme Court
justice in the State of Ohio, Yes, sir, you this
is not unlike the Supreme Court of the United States.
Of course, obviously it is a state exclusive. But essentially

(03:22):
you are there to be the ultimate authority on you know,
the constitutionality within the State of Ohio constitution, whether something
works does not work, and you're kind of the final say.
What makes you want that responsibility because that's a that's
a big burden to put on your shoulders every day
when you wake up.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yeah, well it is the house. Supreme Court is the
court of last resort in Ohio and as a final
say of what Ohio law is, what the Ohio Constitution
says and means. So it's a big responsibility. I've never
shied away from big jobs, responsibilities. Between being a judge
for eleven years now and from county, I was a
prosecutor for thirteen before that. The last ten of years

(04:04):
I was head of the Special Victims Unit in Franklin
County overseeing all those crimes of violence against women and children,
human trafficking, homicide, sexual assault. So you know, my wife,
I've been married for eighteen years. I have three kids.
I want them to grow up in in Ohio that
is safe, free and prosperous. And these Supreme court races
are very, very important, as you can tell just by

(04:26):
the way that the court has ruled the last few
years and how supreme courts have ruled in different parts
of the country between when Colorado kicked Donald Trump off
the ballot with no hearing at all or some of
the other courts. When we see across the nation, I
think voters are starting to see the importance of these
supreme state Supreme court races. And so that's why it's

(04:48):
important people become more and more knowledgeable about my race.

Speaker 1 (04:52):
What is the there must be And I don't know,
you don't want to point fingers at any or any
particular decision, but what is the one thing that happens
on a regular basis right now within our state Supreme
Court that you would like to, you know, maybe start

(05:13):
making a little noise about saying, you know, I think
we could do this better. I think we could serve
citizens better. I think we'd be more effective, more efficient
if our process went this direction. Is it an efficient
process at this point or do you think we might
be able to slim some things down.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
So I think since our new Chief Justice, Sharon Kennedy
has taken the reins as our chief Justice, she's really
put an emphasis on having court cases move along much
more quickly, having cases not just you know, get stalled
on the docket, not just the criminal matters, but of
course important civil litigation type cases that can drag on

(05:53):
for years and years and cost litigants and small businesses
a lot of unnecessary legal fees. And so I think
partnering with her and her efforts and continuing to make
courts more efficient so cases can move more quickly, but
also making sure, especially in criminal matters, that constitutional rights

(06:14):
of defendants and the victims constitutional rights under Ohio Constitution
are always upheld.

Speaker 1 (06:21):
This is Franklin County Judge Judge Dan Hawkins, who is
joining me right now. He would like to be Ohio
Justice Dan Hawkins on the Ohio Supreme Courties on the
Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines. We are talking
about his quest for your support in the November election.
Early voting starts in Ohio. When is it October sixth?

Speaker 2 (06:39):
I think oct yes, October eighth?

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Is it October eighth?

Speaker 2 (06:45):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (06:46):
So Dan Hawkins is an easy name to remember. I've
been encouraging people. As much as I dislike the concept
of early voting, we've been getting beaten with that stick
over and over for years. So I say we start
swinging it back. So, so you lies the early voting,
the absentee, whatever you have to do to make sure
that you participate in the process. When the Supreme Court
hands down a decision and it is not a single

(07:07):
entity but a body, and that decision does not apparently
matter enough to get it here. So and you may
even know where I'm headed with this. What's it been
twenty three twenty four years now since the Supreme Court
directed the legislature to change school funding? How do you

(07:28):
is there a route to going back and saying, you
know what, as the Supreme Court we issued this decision
and it has not but on behalf of the voters,
on behalf of the taxpayers. And with the turmoil that
our public school systems are in, is there a route
that you can take should you be elected that can
get the court to go back, revisit this decision and say, Okay,

(07:50):
we need to kick somebody's tail into gear here because
it didn't get done.

Speaker 2 (07:55):
Well. The particular case you're talking about, the school funding case,
and I probably can't specifically talk about that case particularly,
but you know, the court speaks through its decisions, and
this is where I think, you know, in certain cases,
courts have an inherent power. For example, my court now
is a trial court to uh issue orders and if

(08:18):
orders aren't followed up with to uh to you know,
issue citations for contempt or hold contempt type hearings. But
spring court is a court of Court of Appeals that
the court of reviews, the court that tells what the
law is. And so ultimately, you know, certain decisions, for example,
redistricing decisions that came out a few years back, ultimately

(08:39):
were taken up to a federal district court who intervened.
You know. Obviously, state courts don't like having cases brought
up in the federal courts, and federal courts don't like,
uh don't like intervening in state decisions. But I think
that that's this goes to show the importance of these
state courts and importance of having justice who are going
to follow the law, not just create law or event

(09:01):
laws out of thin air and legislate from the bench.
They need to be able to stay what the law is,
have a clear decision, clear map that in your opinion
written opinion as to what's expected, and you know, trust
in the system from there that the parties are going
to follow the law. If not, then the case will
be right back before the court no time.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
That's just a question that popped into my head about
three years ago, and I've never had an opportunity to
ask it. If someone that could actually provide an answer,
that might have some substance to it. But you know,
if I don't comply, I can be fined. I can
be jail charged with content blah blah blah. So can
my company if I have a company. But I mean
finding an entire legislature for not acting. I just I've
been trying to figure out how what do you do?

(09:43):
How do you what is that? Just? It seems like
there should be a route, but I don't. I don't
see a route.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
Well, part of it is our powers come Court's powers
are come from statue, right. I mean, when I was
an Environmental Court judge, I had the statutory of thought
already to tell someone to pare down their vacant structure
or to you know, kick out the drug dealers. And
if not, I had the statutory the authority under law
I could point to to issue daily finds or to

(10:12):
even jail people. So part of it is a statutory
remedy that proud courts have in certain issues. But when
you get to appellate courts and state supreme courts, there
they review decisions of lower courts or they issue decisions
of what the law is. And ultimately, you know, it's
up to the voters to hold to hold their legislators

(10:35):
and their executives accountable, is to whether or not they
follow up on those laws followed in the decisions.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
Got about three minutes left here and I want to
get out of your way, and I want you to
tell me why, Dan Hawkins for Ohio State Supreme Court.
I want you to answer any questions that nobody bothers
to ask you, but you feel like it's something you
want to get out there. Websites, Facebook's, twitters, anything you
want to do do, let the people know how to
reach you and how to find out more about you.

Speaker 2 (11:05):
Sure, thank you, Chuck. So yeah, my website is Hawkinspurjustice
dot com. Feel free to go there and find out
more about me. Also, you can follow me on Facebook, Twitter,
and apparently I'm on Instagram too. I'm not much up
on that, but apparently I'm on there as well. Look,
I'm in Ohio, Proud Ohio, Proud Ohio and born, raised
in Central Ohio to a hard working, blue collar family.

(11:26):
Attended the Ohio State University. I decided instead of going
and working for law firms and making a bunch of
money as a lawyer, I decided to become a criminal
prosecutor instead because public service has always been in my heart.
And I spent you know, thirteen years as a prosecutor
dealing with the most difficult cases imaginable. In the last
eleven years as a judge here in Franklin County as

(11:50):
one of the sole Republicans left here in Franklin County.
And I've been able to do that because I've got
a reputation here in Central Ohio of not being a
political judge, keeping politics out of the courtroom, just following
the law as it's written and doing what I think
is best to keep our communities safe and upholl people's
constitutional rights. That's my goal as the House on the

(12:11):
House Supreme Court. When I get to House Supreme Court,
I want to keep politics out of the courtroom and
make sure people's constitutional rights are upheld and the rule
of law is always upheld.

Speaker 1 (12:22):
That makes you kind of an outsider when it comes
to modern day politics, but I'm glad to hear it.
And I think I think, as you said, you know,
you've you're one of the few remaining in Franklin County
because overall, you know, the office aside, just as a person,
your disposition is generally likable. You don't come across as
a hardhead and nut case or anything like that. You're

(12:42):
a generally likable person. And and I think that you know,
might might sway a little support from places unexpected sometimes,
which is why you are one of the few remaining
Republican office holders in this county. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (12:55):
And you know, I spent all my time with the
Environmental Court and in Franklin County the Police Court. I
spend many nights a week going to different commedee groups,
block watch groups, church groups and talking to them about
our court system. And I had a number of people.
Take Dan, You're the only I'm a diehard Democrat, You're
the only Republican I voted for because I met you.
I may not agree with you about certain things, but

(13:17):
I met you. You're a good guy, and I believe
you're doing what you think is best, and I think
that that matters a lot. That retail politics and getting
out there and meeting voters meet meets a lot, which
is why I really appreciate you taking the time to
give me this audience.

Speaker 1 (13:32):
I appreciate you taking the time to be the first
of the people that I'll be talking to for election
this November. You're you're the inaugirls, so thank you for that.
We'll get the podcast up and links up and all
that kind of stuff on the social media, so folks
who might want to go back and re listen to
you or click the links and see what you're about,
we'll be able to do that.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
I appreciate a Hawkins forjusice dot com for any more information,
and thank you again, Chuck, and I'd love to come
back anytime, hope maybe in studio after the election as
your new Supreme Court justice.

Speaker 1 (14:04):
All right, I appreciate that, And as long as you
bring snacks, will be good. That's that's all I ask.
If you're going to come to the stadium, bring snacks.
Dan Hawkins for Ohio State Supreme Court. We'll get that
up as I said on the podcast as well as
on the social media, so you can click the links
see what he's about.
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