October 23, 2024 • 14 mins
Robert Sprague is more than a money manager for the state of Ohio. He is an elected official with OPINIONS and he has no problem standing up and saying what he thinks. I love having this guy on the show!
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Speaker 1 (00:08):
We are at six minutes past six o'clock. Greeting salutations.
Welcome to another edition of the Power Hour. I'm Chut Douglas.
You allegedly know who you are. We take it from there.
You're going to get one hour together, which means I
talk really fast. You must listen even faster, especially now
with the election coming up. As as I've been saying,
if you can early vote, if you can get to
the early voting center, do so. The hours for early
(00:29):
voting extended today, They're open more hours. You also have
weekend hours Saturdays and Sundays. I believe you can vote now,
do it. Do it just in case, somehow, some way
a hurricane manages to hit Franklin County, Ohio. I'm counting
on nothing this year. COVID twenty seven. Who knows if
(00:55):
you can early vote, early vote Conservatives, the right, the
Republican that you've been beaten over the head with the
early voting stick for years, start swinging it back. Or
maybe that's just me. One of the things you will
be voting on this year. By the way, I put
the campaign signs in the yard this past week on
I think it was Thursday night, and because nobody in
(01:18):
my neighborhood had them except the lefties. There's the hair
signs are out, the vote yes on one signs are out,
the whoever is running for offices stuff is out. All
the Conservatives just they wanted to get along with their neighbors.
So of course I have to be the first, right,
So I put my signs out this weekend. The guy
(01:40):
down the street goes by, he's got the Trump twenty
twenty four all over his windows on his car. Had
a guy stop this morning andaid, hey, where'd you get
the signs? I need to get my signs. They're coming
out of the woodwork. We got what seventeen days left?
Is that what it is? Act seventeen or eighteen days
till election day?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Over two weeks seventeen days.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You're going to start seeing more people, I think, being
more prominent with their positions, but they, unfortunately will be
overcome with confusion about some things too, including State Issue one,
which is to allegedly make more fair the boundary process
(02:24):
that decides our congressional districts. I have two problems with this.
First of all, a zero accountability, which is never a
good thing, And secondly, I don't like anything that alters
our state constitution. I just that's forever, man, that's forever.
This isn't a matter of passing legislation. This is a
(02:46):
matter of altering the constitution. And quite frankly, I don't
think there's been nearly enough discussion, and people aren't nearly
as educated as they need to be to do something
like that. You see how you boxed yourself in when
it came to where gambling was going to happen. Right now,
(03:06):
it's all over the place, but it's limited by the
state constitution. Who can do it and where they can
do it. Issue one same thing, and it will affect
you in a much larger way, including the amount of
representation you have in Washington, DC locally from our state house.
State Senator Andrew Brinner on standby right now to hopefully,
(03:30):
you know, clarify and and talk baby talk to me
maybe to kind of get this put it out there
in the plainest, simplest possible terms. Andrew, thanks for the
time man tonight. I appreciate you well.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Nice Chuck. I'm glad I could be on. Hopefully you
can hear me. I'm at a Republican event this evening
up here in the Mount Vernon for Mark Heiner for
state Reps.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So good turnout. You got a good turnout of people
up there.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They got a good turnout. I have a bunch of
good people up here. Lieutenant Governor's up here. Even the
Senate President, the future Speaker of the Ohio House, Matt Huffman, is.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Up here excellently. If anybody from the audience, if anybody
in the audience yells Jesus is Lord, the appropriate response
is not, You're in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Rally, and s amen is what it is. Oh yeah,
that was the dumbest comment I've heard her say. But
no State Issue one. To simplify it. If you want
a California Ohio pass and vote for State Issue one,
if you want to protect the Second Amendment, if you
want to protect school choice, if you want lower taxes
(04:37):
and fewer government regulations, then your only option is to
vote no on State Issue one. And it's not a
question of if this entire and I've got the twenty
six pages of constitutional amendment. Our Bill of rights is
only a couple pages this one constitutional amendment, not the summary.
The full amendment is twenty six pages actually, and about
(05:01):
an eighth of a page So for those that are
out there on the left, they're saying I'm lying about
the number of pages or something.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Misleads audience on number of pages.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I know, but I mean it's very simple. This
amendment is bad. It will eliminate what we just did
six years ago that the left wanted. They wanted us
to hold intact cities, municipalities, they wanted us to hold
intact counties, try to do as few of cuts as
(05:30):
possible to townships. This amendment throws all that out because
guess what we did exactly what they said they wanted
that It was overwhelmingly passed six years ago by bipartisan support.
I supported it. This version is going to require jerrymandering.
It is going to override the district boundaries specifically so
(05:52):
that they can make them proportional to the number of
people and the way they vote in the state of Ohio,
whether they're Republican or Democrat. And so what you'll see
is you'll see a hub and spoke system. You will
see districts coming out of Franklin County, Cuyahoga County. They'll
sprawl into suburban areas, rural areas in order to hit
(06:13):
the proportionality number, which is what the Constitutional Amendment proposal says.
So if you want to make sure that the Ohio
House of Representatives in the Ohio Senate becomes Democrat, then okay,
go ahead and vote for State Issue one. If you
want to continue to reduce taxes, if you want to
continue to reform Ohio and bring businesses like Intel in,
(06:37):
then you have to vote no. It's just that simple,
you know, And I would encourage everybody. I mean, this
is just twenty six pages of I mean, this is
legislation being put into the constitution because the far left,
the people like George Soros and company, and all this
(06:57):
out of state money. I mean, you have less than
one percent of the donations that were most recently reported
I think that was to the end of July, came
from individuals. The rest of it came from big leftist
organizations who are specifically doing this to take over our
state government because they know that they've not been they
(07:18):
have not wanted the ballot box. They put their progressive
candidates up and they lose to our candidates. They lose
to our modern candidates. We've got great candidates like Stephanie Coinsey.
She's a moderate Republican, but she's reasonable and does a
really good job representing her constituents. They want to throw
her out and put in a far leftist so that
they can push their basically socialist agenda. They want to
(07:41):
aoc Ohio about night what they're.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Doing about ninety eight percent of the or ninety eight
point four percent or something like that, of the funding
behind the effort is from outside of the state of Ohio.
And I don't think that is being pushed to the
people who are proud buck eyes, proud citizens of the
great state of Ohio. I don't think that's being pushed.
Tarted up. Man, When ninety eight point four percent of
the money to change your mind is coming from someplace
(08:07):
other than within your state, that should be a giant
red flag.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And that's exactly what happened to Michigan, and the Michigan
General Assembly has flipped from Republican to Democrat. And the
only reason that happened is because they passed essentially the
same thing up there, you know, the Citizens Committee. These
people are not going to even be qualified. In fact,
(08:32):
what this does is it says if you've run for
office at the state, federal, or local level, so if
you've run for a local school board and lost anytime
in the last six years, you cannot serve on their
commission because you're apparently overqualified or you would be too biased.
So what they want to do is they want to
put in essentially initially fifteen people, five Republicans, five Independents,
(08:55):
and five Democrats to create this one hundred and forty
percent and commission, who will then turn around and draw maps.
We're going to get a bunch of people who aren't
experts in anything, are then going to have to rely
on what they think are experts. And they'll have an
unlimited budget because the constitutional amendment says, guess what they
get whatever they want to spend, So they will go
(09:19):
They will hire probably college professors because those are the
ones who usually go to the reapportionment board meetings, and
those people will be the ones drawing the maps. And
you know, darn well, and if you saw the posts
that just went out the other day, almost all the
college professors vote to the far left on almost every
major thing, including political science. And those will be the
(09:41):
people drawing the maps. You know darn well. They will
not be fair. They will be designed specifically to put
more Democrats into the State House. And that's what this
is about.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I don't know that there is a way, by the
way the state Senator Andrew Brinner joining me right now,
I don't know that there is a way to do
this in a way that everyone of all political ILKs
feels is fair. You just can't unless you get all
Democrats to live in one section of the state and
all Republicans to live in another section of the state.
(10:11):
It's very difficult to try to draw lines that don't
look like a messed up Jakesaw puzzle and make everybody happy.
And it's you know, typically the party in power at
the time draws lines that benefit them. The Republicans do it,
the Democrats have done it. That's kind of part of
the machinery that we call politics.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yep. And here's the other thing. If you think people
asking you for money for your campaign and the one
hundred and fifty text messages you're getting a day right
now asking you for money, I'll give a dollar to
this or that is going to be reduced, it's not.
Because what will happen is these seats will be so
much closer that we're going to have to spend boatloads
(10:56):
more money than we're spending right now to win any
of these seats, and that is going to drive up
the cost of running for office, and it's going to
cause more special interests to get involved because they'll be
the only ones that will be able to fund it.
And so you're going to see more you know, third
party packs and organizations like you know back by George
Soros at all get involved. They'll be coming from out
(11:19):
of state in order to try to control our General Assembly.
And that's exactly what's going to happen. So I'm going
to tell you if your listeners aren't scared now, they
should be because if they think that their taxes and
their property taxes are too high now, and I believe
they are, they're not going to go down under a
change in this because all this can do is move
us to the far left. And I just I will
(11:42):
tell you this does not have any bipartisan support. This
is totally a partisan effort. I mean, when you've got
the League of Women Voters and every progressive organization out
there backing it and no conservative organizations are backing it,
that should tell you something. And I think that you know,
six years ago we had why bipartisan support. I even
(12:03):
supported it because I felt that the district that I
represented and I currently represent the nineteenth Senate was gerrymandered
in a way that was I mean, it didn't hold
communities intact. I mean I was representing it at the
time in Franklin County all over the place, and it
wasn't fair to the constituents because they didn't get somebody
that would represent their values. And that's the other thing.
(12:27):
The way this is designed, everybody will be upset at
their state representative. You won't get a state representative that
will be supporting your position. So I'm up here in
Mount Vernon. The city of Mount Vernon is a little
more liberal than the rest of the county, but this
is a red county. Imagine that this county potentially is
then represented by a Democrat. None of the constituents are
(12:48):
going to like it. But even worse, the people in
Clintonville are going to get potentially somebody that's more watered
down too and will be less inclined to support their issues.
So you know, the voter is better be careful for
what they wish for because they might get it. But
in this case, if you're a Republican. I would definitely
strongly encourage you to vote now. If you're an independent
(13:12):
and you think you want to see Ohio succeed, continue
to grow, bring in businesses and jobs, then you should
also be voting now.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That shouldn't shouldn't take a whole lot for people to
figure this out. But I appreciate you giving me some
time to, I guess just kind of reiterate what I
consider to be the obvious. It's a bad idea, The
concept is bad. The way that it's set up is bad,
and once it becomes part of our constitution, it is
what it is. Sit down and shut up. Vote No.
You want to talk about legislation down the line, fine,
(13:42):
but this is not the way to do it. And
I'm glad to know I'm not alone. Andrew BRINNERD, thank
you very much.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Go back.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Are you having the rubber chicken? Are you going with
the fish tonight?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
By the way, I don't know. I think they've got
probably just our DRBs. Oh man, if we're getting close,
we're getting close to we're getting close to Halloween, so
they've got some Halloween candy out here, so I'll have
some of that.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We'll have the Halloween. Case'll let me energize everybody I said, hey,
and we'll talk again. I'm sure here real soon as
election time approaches.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh, I appreciate it. Thank you very much for having
me on check.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Thank you for being there. I appreciate you at six
twenty now, which means traffic and weather together
We are at six minutes past six o'clock. Greeting salutations.
Welcome to another edition of the Power Hour. I'm Chut Douglas.
You allegedly know who you are. We take it from there.
You're going to get one hour together, which means I
talk really fast. You must listen even faster, especially now
with the election coming up. As as I've been saying,
if you can early vote, if you can get to
the early voting center, do so. The hours for early
(00:29):
voting extended today, They're open more hours. You also have
weekend hours Saturdays and Sundays. I believe you can vote now,
do it. Do it just in case, somehow, some way
a hurricane manages to hit Franklin County, Ohio. I'm counting
on nothing this year. COVID twenty seven. Who knows if
(00:55):
you can early vote, early vote Conservatives, the right, the
Republican that you've been beaten over the head with the
early voting stick for years, start swinging it back. Or
maybe that's just me. One of the things you will
be voting on this year. By the way, I put
the campaign signs in the yard this past week on
I think it was Thursday night, and because nobody in
(01:18):
my neighborhood had them except the lefties. There's the hair
signs are out, the vote yes on one signs are out,
the whoever is running for offices stuff is out. All
the Conservatives just they wanted to get along with their neighbors.
So of course I have to be the first, right,
So I put my signs out this weekend. The guy
(01:40):
down the street goes by, he's got the Trump twenty
twenty four all over his windows on his car. Had
a guy stop this morning andaid, hey, where'd you get
the signs? I need to get my signs. They're coming
out of the woodwork. We got what seventeen days left?
Is that what it is? Act seventeen or eighteen days
till election day?
Speaker 2 (01:57):
Over two weeks seventeen days.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
You're going to start seeing more people, I think, being
more prominent with their positions, but they, unfortunately will be
overcome with confusion about some things too, including State Issue one,
which is to allegedly make more fair the boundary process
(02:24):
that decides our congressional districts. I have two problems with this.
First of all, a zero accountability, which is never a
good thing, And secondly, I don't like anything that alters
our state constitution. I just that's forever, man, that's forever.
This isn't a matter of passing legislation. This is a
(02:46):
matter of altering the constitution. And quite frankly, I don't
think there's been nearly enough discussion, and people aren't nearly
as educated as they need to be to do something
like that. You see how you boxed yourself in when
it came to where gambling was going to happen. Right now,
(03:06):
it's all over the place, but it's limited by the
state constitution. Who can do it and where they can
do it. Issue one same thing, and it will affect
you in a much larger way, including the amount of
representation you have in Washington, DC locally from our state house.
State Senator Andrew Brinner on standby right now to hopefully,
(03:30):
you know, clarify and and talk baby talk to me
maybe to kind of get this put it out there
in the plainest, simplest possible terms. Andrew, thanks for the
time man tonight. I appreciate you well.
Speaker 2 (03:44):
Nice Chuck. I'm glad I could be on. Hopefully you
can hear me. I'm at a Republican event this evening
up here in the Mount Vernon for Mark Heiner for
state Reps.
Speaker 1 (03:53):
So good turnout. You got a good turnout of people
up there.
Speaker 2 (03:57):
They got a good turnout. I have a bunch of
good people up here. Lieutenant Governor's up here. Even the
Senate President, the future Speaker of the Ohio House, Matt Huffman, is.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
Up here excellently. If anybody from the audience, if anybody
in the audience yells Jesus is Lord, the appropriate response
is not, You're in the wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
Rally, and s amen is what it is. Oh yeah,
that was the dumbest comment I've heard her say. But
no State Issue one. To simplify it. If you want
a California Ohio pass and vote for State Issue one,
if you want to protect the Second Amendment, if you
want to protect school choice, if you want lower taxes
(04:37):
and fewer government regulations, then your only option is to
vote no on State Issue one. And it's not a
question of if this entire and I've got the twenty
six pages of constitutional amendment. Our Bill of rights is
only a couple pages this one constitutional amendment, not the summary.
The full amendment is twenty six pages actually, and about
(05:01):
an eighth of a page So for those that are
out there on the left, they're saying I'm lying about
the number of pages or something.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Misleads audience on number of pages.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Yeah, I know, but I mean it's very simple. This
amendment is bad. It will eliminate what we just did
six years ago that the left wanted. They wanted us
to hold intact cities, municipalities, they wanted us to hold
intact counties, try to do as few of cuts as
(05:30):
possible to townships. This amendment throws all that out because
guess what we did exactly what they said they wanted
that It was overwhelmingly passed six years ago by bipartisan support.
I supported it. This version is going to require jerrymandering.
It is going to override the district boundaries specifically so
(05:52):
that they can make them proportional to the number of
people and the way they vote in the state of Ohio,
whether they're Republican or Democrat. And so what you'll see
is you'll see a hub and spoke system. You will
see districts coming out of Franklin County, Cuyahoga County. They'll
sprawl into suburban areas, rural areas in order to hit
(06:13):
the proportionality number, which is what the Constitutional Amendment proposal says.
So if you want to make sure that the Ohio
House of Representatives in the Ohio Senate becomes Democrat, then okay,
go ahead and vote for State Issue one. If you
want to continue to reduce taxes, if you want to
continue to reform Ohio and bring businesses like Intel in,
(06:37):
then you have to vote no. It's just that simple,
you know, And I would encourage everybody. I mean, this
is just twenty six pages of I mean, this is
legislation being put into the constitution because the far left,
the people like George Soros and company, and all this
(06:57):
out of state money. I mean, you have less than
one percent of the donations that were most recently reported
I think that was to the end of July, came
from individuals. The rest of it came from big leftist
organizations who are specifically doing this to take over our
state government because they know that they've not been they
(07:18):
have not wanted the ballot box. They put their progressive
candidates up and they lose to our candidates. They lose
to our modern candidates. We've got great candidates like Stephanie Coinsey.
She's a moderate Republican, but she's reasonable and does a
really good job representing her constituents. They want to throw
her out and put in a far leftist so that
they can push their basically socialist agenda. They want to
(07:41):
aoc Ohio about night what they're.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Doing about ninety eight percent of the or ninety eight
point four percent or something like that, of the funding
behind the effort is from outside of the state of Ohio.
And I don't think that is being pushed to the
people who are proud buck eyes, proud citizens of the
great state of Ohio. I don't think that's being pushed.
Tarted up. Man, When ninety eight point four percent of
the money to change your mind is coming from someplace
(08:07):
other than within your state, that should be a giant
red flag.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
And that's exactly what happened to Michigan, and the Michigan
General Assembly has flipped from Republican to Democrat. And the
only reason that happened is because they passed essentially the
same thing up there, you know, the Citizens Committee. These
people are not going to even be qualified. In fact,
(08:32):
what this does is it says if you've run for
office at the state, federal, or local level, so if
you've run for a local school board and lost anytime
in the last six years, you cannot serve on their
commission because you're apparently overqualified or you would be too biased.
So what they want to do is they want to
put in essentially initially fifteen people, five Republicans, five Independents,
(08:55):
and five Democrats to create this one hundred and forty
percent and commission, who will then turn around and draw maps.
We're going to get a bunch of people who aren't
experts in anything, are then going to have to rely
on what they think are experts. And they'll have an
unlimited budget because the constitutional amendment says, guess what they
get whatever they want to spend, So they will go
(09:19):
They will hire probably college professors because those are the
ones who usually go to the reapportionment board meetings, and
those people will be the ones drawing the maps. And
you know, darn well, and if you saw the posts
that just went out the other day, almost all the
college professors vote to the far left on almost every
major thing, including political science. And those will be the
(09:41):
people drawing the maps. You know darn well. They will
not be fair. They will be designed specifically to put
more Democrats into the State House. And that's what this
is about.
Speaker 1 (09:50):
I don't know that there is a way, by the
way the state Senator Andrew Brinner joining me right now,
I don't know that there is a way to do
this in a way that everyone of all political ILKs
feels is fair. You just can't unless you get all
Democrats to live in one section of the state and
all Republicans to live in another section of the state.
(10:11):
It's very difficult to try to draw lines that don't
look like a messed up Jakesaw puzzle and make everybody happy.
And it's you know, typically the party in power at
the time draws lines that benefit them. The Republicans do it,
the Democrats have done it. That's kind of part of
the machinery that we call politics.
Speaker 2 (10:33):
Yep. And here's the other thing. If you think people
asking you for money for your campaign and the one
hundred and fifty text messages you're getting a day right
now asking you for money, I'll give a dollar to
this or that is going to be reduced, it's not.
Because what will happen is these seats will be so
much closer that we're going to have to spend boatloads
(10:56):
more money than we're spending right now to win any
of these seats, and that is going to drive up
the cost of running for office, and it's going to
cause more special interests to get involved because they'll be
the only ones that will be able to fund it.
And so you're going to see more you know, third
party packs and organizations like you know back by George
Soros at all get involved. They'll be coming from out
(11:19):
of state in order to try to control our General Assembly.
And that's exactly what's going to happen. So I'm going
to tell you if your listeners aren't scared now, they
should be because if they think that their taxes and
their property taxes are too high now, and I believe
they are, they're not going to go down under a
change in this because all this can do is move
us to the far left. And I just I will
(11:42):
tell you this does not have any bipartisan support. This
is totally a partisan effort. I mean, when you've got
the League of Women Voters and every progressive organization out
there backing it and no conservative organizations are backing it,
that should tell you something. And I think that you know,
six years ago we had why bipartisan support. I even
(12:03):
supported it because I felt that the district that I
represented and I currently represent the nineteenth Senate was gerrymandered
in a way that was I mean, it didn't hold
communities intact. I mean I was representing it at the
time in Franklin County all over the place, and it
wasn't fair to the constituents because they didn't get somebody
that would represent their values. And that's the other thing.
(12:27):
The way this is designed, everybody will be upset at
their state representative. You won't get a state representative that
will be supporting your position. So I'm up here in
Mount Vernon. The city of Mount Vernon is a little
more liberal than the rest of the county, but this
is a red county. Imagine that this county potentially is
then represented by a Democrat. None of the constituents are
(12:48):
going to like it. But even worse, the people in
Clintonville are going to get potentially somebody that's more watered
down too and will be less inclined to support their issues.
So you know, the voter is better be careful for
what they wish for because they might get it. But
in this case, if you're a Republican. I would definitely
strongly encourage you to vote now. If you're an independent
(13:12):
and you think you want to see Ohio succeed, continue
to grow, bring in businesses and jobs, then you should
also be voting now.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
That shouldn't shouldn't take a whole lot for people to
figure this out. But I appreciate you giving me some
time to, I guess just kind of reiterate what I
consider to be the obvious. It's a bad idea, The
concept is bad. The way that it's set up is bad,
and once it becomes part of our constitution, it is
what it is. Sit down and shut up. Vote No.
You want to talk about legislation down the line, fine,
(13:42):
but this is not the way to do it. And
I'm glad to know I'm not alone. Andrew BRINNERD, thank
you very much.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Go back.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
Are you having the rubber chicken? Are you going with
the fish tonight?
Speaker 2 (13:50):
By the way, I don't know. I think they've got
probably just our DRBs. Oh man, if we're getting close,
we're getting close to we're getting close to Halloween, so
they've got some Halloween candy out here, so I'll have
some of that.
Speaker 1 (14:02):
We'll have the Halloween. Case'll let me energize everybody I said, hey,
and we'll talk again. I'm sure here real soon as
election time approaches.
Speaker 2 (14:09):
Oh, I appreciate it. Thank you very much for having
me on check.
Speaker 1 (14:12):
Thank you for being there. I appreciate you at six
twenty now, which means traffic and weather together
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