August 21, 2024 • 27 mins
Joined by Columbus Police Sgt. James Fuqua to talk about the rules of the road now that school busses are once again a consideration. OF NOTE: Several listeners argues that what the Sgt, is saying is contrary to ORC. I am bringing an attorney on the show to clarify this Stay tuned to 610 WTVN and follow me on social media for updates.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Breading Scienceations. Welcome my friends to another Editiontive Power Hour.
This is six ten dou WUTV and I'm Chuck Douglass.
You allegedly know who you are. We take it from there.
We get one hour together, which means I talk really
really fast. You must listen even faster my number eight
two one nine eighty six eight two one WTV and
or eight hundred and six to ten WTV. And you
may very well may want to grab a line because
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I've got somebody in the studio. This is important stuff,
not only for the safety of the children, because it's
always for the children. It's that's what makes it real,
but also because it'll cost you a fortune if you
mess up out there. And I'm talking about school bus season.
What do you do on the roads? What do you
don't do on the roads? In the studio with me
right now a Columbus Police Department as sergeant, Is it
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still Sergeant James fuchor or I don't want to demote you. Uh, yes,
still sergeant, Okay, because I mean the stripes are the stripes?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Who is very well versed on the traffic situation out here,
and I am admittedly ignorant a lot of times I
do what other traffic does unless my common sense just goes,
oh no, nobody should be passing this bus or going it.
But I got hit with something while we were talking
off the air that I thought, I'm wrong. I'm absolutely wrong.
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I thought out on my beloved west side out there,
you know, the Franklin Township slash Columbus area between Wilson
Road and the Hollywood Casino where when they're not under construction,
which will be on a Tuesday next year, I understand
we have we have four lanes of traffic I'm sorry,
three lanes of traffic eastbound, three lanes of traffic westbound,
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and a center turn lane where you can turn left
except the morons who turn right. And I would think
if I'm on the far right lane going west out
toward the casino, not that I'm stopping there because I
like my money, but out that direction, and if a
school bus was coming back and it was going to
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stop there, like by the AutoZone place where there's a
housing development or something, maybe they can't get there because
ice or whatever, I would think I would not have
to stop because there's no housing on my side of
the road. But officer, Sergeant Fuqua looked at me and said, oh,
you are mistaken. So you are you have to stop
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even with that many lanes. That's correct, that's that's weird.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
One of the biggest misconceptions as it relates to school buses,
the stop sign and when you can and cannot go right, Like,
we are very busy, especially this time of year when
we have enjoyed the entire summer of having no buses
in the morning, no kids running around, and we can
come and go as we please.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's because they were all in my house. Well, yall's
children at my house, low little eating things.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, the kids love you, so that's a great thing.
That's a great thing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So yeah, but with school starting back, obviously it's an
adjustment for all of us as drivers, even us as
officers included.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So it is absolutely correct.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
When you are on an open lane, whether it's ten
lanes of traffic or two lanes of traffic, when that
school bus stops and that stop sign is out and activated,
unless there is a specific road barrier between the lanes
of traffic to where you cannot cross over, you do
have to stop now.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And that's is that like ground level concrete barrier or
does it have to be a guardrail type.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Situation concrete bearer.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So essentially the best piece of advice I always give people,
if you think you should be stopping, you should probably stop.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, that's see, that's something else again pointing out on
my belowal Woice side Sulimon Avenue, where you know all
the culture is but Sullivan, then that's one play of
playing they you know, the mayor wanted to save us
from from the crime and the decay, so they painted
the bridge right there's Sullivan in seventy but then they
installed these They're stupid. They're stupid little concrete islands in
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the middle of Sullivan Avenue. So if you're your eastbound
on Sullivan, say you want to turn on the Showba Avenue,
but you're in a left turnline. But the left turnlane
is blocked at Nijoba Avenue by a concrete barrier, so
you go around. That's awkward. Don't we have enough? How
do you enforce something like that? It's legal to turn
left there, but you cannot legally turn because you have
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to go around that barrier and kind of come back
westbound in order to make the left hand turn.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's definitely very difficult.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And as you say that culture in that area, you
have a lot of activity and a lot of things
going on, not only with the hicular traffic, but you
have a lot of pedestrian traffic, so it is very
imperative to try to be as careful as you possibly can.
The city decided to put those in because that is
supposed to significantly reduce the amount of the hicular traffic accidents.
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Now I don't have the data to support if that
has been effective or not, but it is definitely one
of those things that can cause a headache for drivers
trying to make turns off a settlement.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
They have some wonderful ideas down there. I don't envy
you your job, definitely. I remember a couple years ago
when they first started calling attention to the female oriented
commerce out there, and I got pulled over because I
went to get some coffee. It was one thirty in
the morning, I'm working, I'm sitting in front of laptop.
I am not gonna make a full pot of coffee.
So I went down and went to the UDF to
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get my one thirty in the morning coffee. What what
are you pulling? Excuse me, sir, what are you doing?
Why do you care? Well, it's one thirty in the morning,
I know what time it is. What do you want. Well,
we're handing these out and they hand me a folder
on leave hookers alone. I'm like, are you serious? I'm
just getting coffee. It might kill me too, but not
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as bad what I could never do it. So back
to the traffic thing. The school bus system in Columbus
last year was abysmal. Every single morning I was getting
text to this bus running late, this bus running late.
This bus if covered? This year, they say they've got
that handled. I have to assume that means they have
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new drivers. That's got to be a consideration too, because
we're going to have people on very large vehicles with
very loud children that perhaps have not done this before.
Is that Is there any sort of mindset where you're
going to have to I don't want to say go
after drivers in lieu of the buses, but maybe police
around moving school buses a little bit more to protect
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them from their own inexperience in that job. Make sure
that we're doing the right thing because they may not yet.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Well, that's a fair point, and I will tell you
that we have worked very well and very closely with
not only Columbus City Schools, but other Central Ohio school
districts in terms of the bus routes and the routes
that they take and the amount of time that they
are starting and stopping. You know, it's important because just
in the city of Columbus alone, since January first, up
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to this date, we've had over twenty one thousand traffic
related reported accidents in the city. So, as you can tell,
that's a lot of accidents per day, twenty one thousand
over an eight and a half month period. So we
really try to focus on creating better ways to engage
in safe travel, not only with school buses but everyone.
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So we definitely have put a focus on that. As
a matter of fact, we will be putting some stuff
out on our social media platforms tomorrow in regards to
the work that we have been doing with Columbus City
Schools specifically and bus safety.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Hit them in the pocket now. And this is why
it was important for me to have you in because
I wanted to to let people know, especially you know,
if you've never had this problem before, if you pass
a school bus when it stopped, that can hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
It hurts and not only does that hurt, but just
getting caught speeding in a school zone hurts. Just to
put in perspective, just this year alone, January through May,
I looked up how many school zone and fractions that
we wrote in terms of tickets, and we're over fourteen
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hundred that we wrote just from a traffic unit perspective
from January up until the end of the school year.
So be ready starting tomorrow to see mostly our traffic
in the motorcycle guys out there enforcing traffic in the
school zones and typically what we see in August and
September or a higher number because people yet again are
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getting used to kids being back into the school districts
and the school zones being lit up.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's very important to know if.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You are not sure how far you're supposed to start
slowing down. The easiest rule of thumb is as soon
as you see that sign and when you see traffic
around you slowing down, slow down.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But by the book, it's three hundred feet.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So essentially, when you can see that twenty mile hour
sign flashing within three hundred feet, officers could technically write
you for going over twenty miles an hour, even if
you're not technically in the zone yet, so it's very
important and to try to start slowing down now.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Typically, you know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Not supposed to give trade secrets, but we don't typically
enforce that until they're closer.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
To that sign. But depending on the speed of the driver,
how many.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Kids are out, what time of day, what the traffic
is around, you can absolutely still get that ticket.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Are the flashing signs of the school crosswalks, by the way,
are those controlled by the system the individual school? Who
has control of those?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
A lot of people don't know, But the schools actually
have the ability to control that because based on the
school zoned by law, there's certain time periods before school
starts and after school starts, how early and how late
they can.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Actually start those up.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
But the schools actually control those going off and on.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I've seen a couple that were just left on, like
school was off, yeah, out that day, and the lights
are still flashing. I'm like, why are we moving twenty when? Yeah?
The financials are the financial repercussions of of you know,
exceeding the speed limit, blowing through a stop sign, whatever,
when you're in a school zone during those protected hours.
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Do they double those the way that they do in
a construction zone.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Not only do they double those, but depending on how
fast you're going, it could be a required court a parent.
So in most traffic tickets you can just pay it online,
through the mail, through over the phone, whatever, But if
you are going a certain speed or during certain times
with the school bus, you're absolutely required to attend court
for that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So anything school.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Zone related, you are looking at having a mandatory court
of parents.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Good good, I was. You know, as I said, I've
raised my own kids, I got grandkids. I'm watching out
for now, and I just endangering, harming, anything detrimental to
the well being of a child. I have very very
little sympathy for how I am. I've got There's a
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stop sign where I live, and I sit in the
evenings and I will watch all these people blow through there.
Hreas well. It's a twenty five miles per hour street.
They go through there at like fifty blow through the
stop side, and I'm thinking, at the next intersection is
the beginning of a school And you know, if you're
driving like that now, it just it scares me what
kind of people you are that you might you might
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endanger children like that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, it's very scary for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I mean, I'm a parent myself, so I would never
want anything to happen to anybody's child, especially mine.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
School zones and buses put aside, here, is there anything
else traffic consideration wise that we're not talking about. People
don't ask about think about outside of that zone or
outside of being near a bus when it comes to
school and how you drive.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, believe it or not.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Actually, this time of year, starting now going all the
way through the end of October, one of the things
we don't think about when you live in Ohio, A
lot of people do not think about is how the
sun rises and how the sun sets, and this time
of year is most danger and all drivers are most
susceptible to being in a traffic accident based on the
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sun pattern. So, in other words, if you are getting
up in the morning and you are traveling east where
the sun is rising, the sun is so bright and
it's at such a unique angle being in this part
of the country this time of year that if you
don't have sunglasses and your sun visor and making sure
your defrost is on to make sure your windows aren't
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frosting up. Because the temperature is also a factor in
that that we see a lot of traffic accidents because
quite frankly, the way the sun is rising and setting.
So again, if you're driving home, like you're going out
to the West Side and you're driving down Broad Street
this time of year, the sun sets in a way
that is very difficult to differentiate the traffic light signal colors.
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So we see an uptick and an increase in accidents
based on that. So something as simple as keeping sunglasses
in your car is critical this time of year.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
This weekend, as we were getting school clothing ap purchase
and everything, went up to the outlet mall and I
actually saw a sunglass hut and I said, I'm not
doing this with all these kids, but I do need
to get in it, just because that as we head
into autumn, the tilt of the earth makes that sunrise
and sunset both more intense. Plus snow will get here eventually,
and the reflective factor of snow and sunshine. Yeah, good
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sunglasses could be very helpful.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Absolutely, Oh you said the dirty s ward. I'm not
ready for that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Ohio, it could happen tomorrow for all I know. Absolutely,
if you have any any questions regarding the traffic situation,
what you should do, shouldn't do? Could could get in
big trouble for anything else when it comes to you
know how to handle yourself around school buses, schools, children
and so forth. The man who can answer those questions
is in the studio right now, Columbus Police Sergeant James
Fuqua eight two one WTV and or eight hundred and sixty
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ten WTV and T I have another check of traffic
and weather together. What to do, what not to do?
What will it cost you if you mess up in
traffic around a school bus or in a school zone?
Thomas Police Officer James Sergeant Fuqua joining me to answer
your questions. Eight two one nine eight eight six number
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eight two one WTV and Bob. I want to let
you know I did see your your question or your
misunderstanding of what he said earlier on Facebook. We're going
to get into that, I promise you. John's been on
hold the longest, so he is up first on the
Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines. What's up, John, Hey.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Good afternoon shot. How you done pretty good?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
As far as I know. I try not to ask
too many questions.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
We'll get I'd like to say thank you to offer
the fuqua for being on your show, and I just
want to voice my opinion. As far as flashing school lights,
I don't care what the penalty is right now, it
needs to be double because our children and our future
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are not worth There's nothing on the face of earth
worth you speeding through a school zone. As far as
making a mistake when a bus stops on a roadway,
I can understand that if in doubt stop, our children
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are worth the world.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm with you, John, and like you said, the most
important thing you just said, if in doubt stop, which
is something that when we were talking off the air
today at that Broad Street segment out there, that is
essentially what the sergeant told me. If you don't know
for sure, just be safe and stop. And it makes
perfect sense. I have to look at it that way,
because you're right, the kids are more important than wherever
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I have to be. I was asking him a question
two about it. In my neighborhood, on the one of
the streets that I travel a great deal trying to
get out of the neighborhood. Last year, there were two
stops for children with disabilities. I think they were both
in wheelchairs. If I'm not mistaken, and I was asking him,
is there any time limit? Because literally I have sat
for ten minutes while the I guess it's mom was
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bringing one of the kids out of the house and
I'm thinking, I have really got to get to the station.
I really got to get you know, you wait, there's
no rule about that. There are some accommodations we make
for things in life that we think are really stupid.
This is something that you know, this doesn't fall into
the stupid category. This is about the kids. So you
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wait as long as it takes, and you know, turn
on the radio and listen to me while you're waiting. Tom,
You're on sixth n doble UTV and how are you.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Hi. I have a quick question regarding stopping for school buses.
What about on a five lane roadway where there's two lanes,
say eastbound, two lanes westbound, and you have a continuous
turn lane in the middle, if are you required to
stop for a bus on the opposite side of the
street you're traveling.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's just what we were talking about. That Bob on
Facebook didn't understand from the beginning, So thanks for asking that.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, it's a perfect segue. And that's a great question.
Thank you for that. Yeah, So to clear up not
only Bob's question and the confusion, no matter how wide
a street is, and we used off air, we were
talking about the example of Broad Street for example, that's
the widest street in Columbus, where certain parts of Broad
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Street are four lanes both ways eastbound, westbound, and if
a bus is stopped, regardless.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Of which lane it is in, once.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That bus has stopped and that stop sign is activated,
all lanes of traffic going the same way and the
opposite way has to.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Stop unless there's like one of those concrete islands between
eastbound and westbound and northbound and southbound. If there's no
concrete divider, no, no structure dividing the road, you have
to stop on both sides.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So short of a freeway in Columbus, there aren't many
streets that I can think of that have a concrete
barrier that would require you to or allow you to
keep going regardless of if you're going to the opposite direction.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Okay, thank you very much, clear us up question.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Thank you for the question, Tom. I appreciate you listening.
I appreciate the call. Let me ask you real quickly,
let's make the sake from school buses to emergency vehicles,
same situation. Does everybody stop on both sides in that
same scenario if a police car an ambulance is coming
down the street.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, that's another great question.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And that's one of the things, especially for people who
may not have always lived in Ohio, because every state
has different laws and regulations as it relates to emergency vehicles,
but specifically here in the city of Columbus, and it's
a state code as well. When emergency vehicles, whether it's
an ambulance, a police officer, or any emergency service, when
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they are driving, you are to try to pull over
as close to the edge of the roadway as possible
and you are to stop until that emergency vehicle passes you.
So a lot of times, you know, in our job,
specifically for officers, it's very stressful when we are trying
to get from point A to point B, when someone's
life is in crisis in that moment and we want
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to make sure that we're doing everything to protect them
from whatever the situation is, that we beg drivers to
pull over as quickly as possible because you know, if
that was someone in your family that's in crisis for
whatever the reason, you would want to make sure that
we get there to help them come to a safe conclusion.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And the you know, if you can't get over, if
you're in the middle, you can't get to the far
left of the far right. Just stop cop coming up
behind you at ninety miles an hour. As long as
you are not moving, he can get around you. Just
don't be moving. Just don't people kill me with that.
Let me just ease on over. No, don't ease on over.
Just stop. It's you're complicating things by it. And sometimes
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this right here leaving this building. I brought this up
and I've yet to get an answer to this. There
are times when you can be ticketed at fault in
an auto accident when somebody else is actually breaking the law.
Exiting this here radio station is a prime example of that.
When you pull out on the fifth Avenue. Now that
they've cleaned it up and we don't have all the
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shrubbery and stuff, it's a little easier to see. But
these yahoos would come out of Grand View and come
off of Dublin Road. This fifth Avenue is twenty five
out here, they come up through here sixty miles an hour.
They come around that bend, you pull out, you see
them way down there. Because you are judging traffic as
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if people are obeying the law.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You think you've got five and a half seconds, not two,
right before Yahoo hits you. But if Yahoo hits you,
guess what, You're still getting a citation for pulling out
into traffic like that, which I've always found it. They
have to be able to prove that Yahoo was speeding.
And since it's easier to say you pulled out into traffic,
you're getting the ticket.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, Unfortunately, the way it's written, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And that's nuts. That's but we have to compensate for that.
And I say this, I people you know occasionally will
get upset with me. But I'm just I say what
I mean. I mean what I say. I don't try
to be offensive, but I observe the world around me.
We got way too many people in the city of
Columbus that came to the City of Columbus from places
that didn't even have paved roads, and we're expecting them
to play by the same rules. You need to drive
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for them as well. You've got to be prepared for
their mistakes because they don't necessarily know. They might not
even have a license, maybe never took a test. You
know they're here. I know they're here. So until somebody
handles it, we got to deal with it. That's what
it comes down to. And especially, you know again this
time of year, with the buses rolling and the kids
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out there on the street, we need to be particularly
particularly protective of them because there are those who don't
even know to be protective of them. A two one
nine eighty six A two one WTV and Mike, you're
on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines. How
are you?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I'm doing good. Thank you for taking a call. With
all due respect to the police officer. I'm looking at
page twenty two of the Digest and Motor Vehicle Laws
currently Vision Ohio Revised Code forty five to eleven point
seventy five. Now, this is the only thing that the
public actually gets to know the law by, okay, and
nowhere does it send anything about a concrete barrier, any barrier.
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It only says that a road that is four or
more lanes wide that doesn't include a turn lane, only
four or more lanes. So two lanes, two lanes, double
yellow line. Only the traffic proceeding in the direction of
the bus has to stop. There is nowhere anywhere where
it says anything about a barrier or something like that.
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So if what you're saying is true, how would the
general public for what that law is?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
The Only thing we have to go by.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Is what's published by the State of Ohio putting out
the laws for us to know.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, that's does Ohio vary from Columbus? Does Columbus has
a different interpretation or of it?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, So that's a very very good point by the caller,
And by no means am I saying that him looking
through the Ohio Revised Code is incorrect because I'm not
saying that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I want to be with my words.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And there are differences depending on the municipalities.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Right, So, the Ohio.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Revised Code has certain laws and restrictions. The Columbus City
Code has laws and restrictions. Say, if we were in
Grove City, they may have different laws and restrictions.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So there's no law in Grove City. I'm just saying, right.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
So again, but my honest point is if that is
the case, how could someone honestly be cited when the
only thing we have to go by for what the
laws are is what's published by the State of Ohio. Right,
that pull us over, and right it's a ticket for that.
How could we possibly be at fault because it's not
ignorance of the law. We are actually going by what
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the published law is. You see the point.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, No, absolutely see the point. And you're very fair
in your point.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And this is where, like I said earlier, where there's
frustrations with people that depending on what state you're in
and depending on what municipality. Now obviously we're talking laws
specific to the state of Ohio and Columbus, Ohio. So
with you looking through the Ohio Revised Code as opposed
to the Columbus City Code, the one thing I would encourage,
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God forbid you ever got stopped for what you believe
is a correct code. That's what our court systems are for,
and you would have clearly a very viable option as
to why you should not have received a ticket.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, that would I think you'd end up going up
to chain there, Matt. Seriously, you could. You could essentially
change law in the entire state of ohiosolutely with something
like that.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
If you ever that's because you know, because I always
follow the law, God forbid. I mean I always do that.
But I would have to legitimately make an argument that,
you know, someone writing me a citation where I would
have no idea how to even know what that law is.
That's not ignorance of the law. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You should? You should. I went down and argued a
couple of times.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I might question the I might question the validity of
a citation, perhaps a pull over slash warning, a questioning,
but a citation for that situation might be too far,
you might, that might go the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
In court, I went down and questioned a couple of
tickets myself. Both were for obstructed signage, and uh, you know,
I I was sit here, look here it is, and
is that how it is? Yes, how it's been for
like a year? Okay? Yeah? And I walked away both times,
So that was wonderful. There's so I don't even want
to talk to this guy, some guyn Brian online?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Three?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
What's up? Brian?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So sartet fuqua.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
If I blast my music smoke weed as they f
the police, is that okay? Or do you discourage that?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I would never want anyone to not be able to
express their freedom of speech. So by no means would
I ever tell you what you could and could not say.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
That depends on what elected office you hold too.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
That's right, gentlemen, this is a great show. Chuck Brian
still here, President Turn Order Police, Capital City Laws nine.
Thank you for bringing us starting to win start. You're
one of the best in the business and it's a
true pleasure representing people like you. And thank you for
bringing this awareness.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, thank you President Steel for those kind words. And
he is definitely our fearless leader of the Fraternal Order
of Polonius.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
To sleep occasionally man mornings, afternoons, middle of the night,
den matter.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
He's out there now, he's always out there fighting for
our people.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Well listen, sorry, people will tell you there are times
in our careers we pulled over people like that and
they're wondering why they got a ticket, and I'm like,
come on, man, really, nine ten times you're respectful as
long as you're doing nothing too egregious, you hand over
your documents. Nine at ten times you're sent away with
the warning. And that's just the fact.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, little common sense, a little common courtesy. It goes
a long way. Oh my gosh, already, can you turn
the clock back? Can I get another hour?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Really?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
All right? Zach's plain? I got Matt and Frank both
holding on it. Guys. I'll tell you what if you
want to hang on, if you have particularly pertinent questions,
I will have Officer Fook will talk to you off
the air and answer your questions. But the music means
it is time for me to fly. We'll do this
again tomorrow night, beginning at six o'clock, and again I'll
end the show wishing it was two hours instead of one.
That's just the way I roll. I hope you'll be
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here for this thing called the Power Hour on six
' ten WTVN.
Breading Scienceations. Welcome my friends to another Editiontive Power Hour.
This is six ten dou WUTV and I'm Chuck Douglass.
You allegedly know who you are. We take it from there.
We get one hour together, which means I talk really
really fast. You must listen even faster my number eight
two one nine eighty six eight two one WTV and
or eight hundred and six to ten WTV. And you
may very well may want to grab a line because
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I've got somebody in the studio. This is important stuff,
not only for the safety of the children, because it's
always for the children. It's that's what makes it real,
but also because it'll cost you a fortune if you
mess up out there. And I'm talking about school bus season.
What do you do on the roads? What do you
don't do on the roads? In the studio with me
right now a Columbus Police Department as sergeant, Is it
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still Sergeant James fuchor or I don't want to demote you. Uh, yes,
still sergeant, Okay, because I mean the stripes are the stripes?
Speaker 2 (00:52):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (00:54):
Who is very well versed on the traffic situation out here,
and I am admittedly ignorant a lot of times I
do what other traffic does unless my common sense just goes,
oh no, nobody should be passing this bus or going it.
But I got hit with something while we were talking
off the air that I thought, I'm wrong. I'm absolutely wrong.
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I thought out on my beloved west side out there,
you know, the Franklin Township slash Columbus area between Wilson
Road and the Hollywood Casino where when they're not under construction,
which will be on a Tuesday next year, I understand
we have we have four lanes of traffic I'm sorry,
three lanes of traffic eastbound, three lanes of traffic westbound,
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and a center turn lane where you can turn left
except the morons who turn right. And I would think
if I'm on the far right lane going west out
toward the casino, not that I'm stopping there because I
like my money, but out that direction, and if a
school bus was coming back and it was going to
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stop there, like by the AutoZone place where there's a
housing development or something, maybe they can't get there because
ice or whatever, I would think I would not have
to stop because there's no housing on my side of
the road. But officer, Sergeant Fuqua looked at me and said, oh,
you are mistaken. So you are you have to stop
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even with that many lanes. That's correct, that's that's weird.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
One of the biggest misconceptions as it relates to school buses,
the stop sign and when you can and cannot go right, Like,
we are very busy, especially this time of year when
we have enjoyed the entire summer of having no buses
in the morning, no kids running around, and we can
come and go as we please.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
It's because they were all in my house. Well, yall's
children at my house, low little eating things.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
Well, the kids love you, so that's a great thing.
That's a great thing.
Speaker 3 (02:49):
So yeah, but with school starting back, obviously it's an
adjustment for all of us as drivers, even us as
officers included.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
So it is absolutely correct.
Speaker 3 (02:58):
When you are on an open lane, whether it's ten
lanes of traffic or two lanes of traffic, when that
school bus stops and that stop sign is out and activated,
unless there is a specific road barrier between the lanes
of traffic to where you cannot cross over, you do
have to stop now.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
And that's is that like ground level concrete barrier or
does it have to be a guardrail type.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Situation concrete bearer.
Speaker 3 (03:23):
So essentially the best piece of advice I always give people,
if you think you should be stopping, you should probably stop.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Okay, that's see, that's something else again pointing out on
my belowal Woice side Sulimon Avenue, where you know all
the culture is but Sullivan, then that's one play of
playing they you know, the mayor wanted to save us
from from the crime and the decay, so they painted
the bridge right there's Sullivan in seventy but then they
installed these They're stupid. They're stupid little concrete islands in
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the middle of Sullivan Avenue. So if you're your eastbound
on Sullivan, say you want to turn on the Showba Avenue,
but you're in a left turnline. But the left turnlane
is blocked at Nijoba Avenue by a concrete barrier, so
you go around. That's awkward. Don't we have enough? How
do you enforce something like that? It's legal to turn
left there, but you cannot legally turn because you have
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to go around that barrier and kind of come back
westbound in order to make the left hand turn.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
It's definitely very difficult.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
And as you say that culture in that area, you
have a lot of activity and a lot of things
going on, not only with the hicular traffic, but you
have a lot of pedestrian traffic, so it is very
imperative to try to be as careful as you possibly can.
The city decided to put those in because that is
supposed to significantly reduce the amount of the hicular traffic accidents.
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Now I don't have the data to support if that
has been effective or not, but it is definitely one
of those things that can cause a headache for drivers
trying to make turns off a settlement.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
They have some wonderful ideas down there. I don't envy
you your job, definitely. I remember a couple years ago
when they first started calling attention to the female oriented
commerce out there, and I got pulled over because I
went to get some coffee. It was one thirty in
the morning, I'm working, I'm sitting in front of laptop.
I am not gonna make a full pot of coffee.
So I went down and went to the UDF to
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get my one thirty in the morning coffee. What what
are you pulling? Excuse me, sir, what are you doing?
Why do you care? Well, it's one thirty in the morning,
I know what time it is. What do you want. Well,
we're handing these out and they hand me a folder
on leave hookers alone. I'm like, are you serious? I'm
just getting coffee. It might kill me too, but not
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as bad what I could never do it. So back
to the traffic thing. The school bus system in Columbus
last year was abysmal. Every single morning I was getting
text to this bus running late, this bus running late.
This bus if covered? This year, they say they've got
that handled. I have to assume that means they have
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new drivers. That's got to be a consideration too, because
we're going to have people on very large vehicles with
very loud children that perhaps have not done this before.
Is that Is there any sort of mindset where you're
going to have to I don't want to say go
after drivers in lieu of the buses, but maybe police
around moving school buses a little bit more to protect
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them from their own inexperience in that job. Make sure
that we're doing the right thing because they may not yet.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Well, that's a fair point, and I will tell you
that we have worked very well and very closely with
not only Columbus City Schools, but other Central Ohio school
districts in terms of the bus routes and the routes
that they take and the amount of time that they
are starting and stopping. You know, it's important because just
in the city of Columbus alone, since January first, up
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to this date, we've had over twenty one thousand traffic
related reported accidents in the city. So, as you can tell,
that's a lot of accidents per day, twenty one thousand
over an eight and a half month period. So we
really try to focus on creating better ways to engage
in safe travel, not only with school buses but everyone.
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So we definitely have put a focus on that. As
a matter of fact, we will be putting some stuff
out on our social media platforms tomorrow in regards to
the work that we have been doing with Columbus City
Schools specifically and bus safety.
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Hit them in the pocket now. And this is why
it was important for me to have you in because
I wanted to to let people know, especially you know,
if you've never had this problem before, if you pass
a school bus when it stopped, that can hurt.
Speaker 3 (07:39):
It hurts and not only does that hurt, but just
getting caught speeding in a school zone hurts. Just to
put in perspective, just this year alone, January through May,
I looked up how many school zone and fractions that
we wrote in terms of tickets, and we're over fourteen
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hundred that we wrote just from a traffic unit perspective
from January up until the end of the school year.
So be ready starting tomorrow to see mostly our traffic
in the motorcycle guys out there enforcing traffic in the
school zones and typically what we see in August and
September or a higher number because people yet again are
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getting used to kids being back into the school districts
and the school zones being lit up.
Speaker 2 (08:29):
It's very important to know if.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
You are not sure how far you're supposed to start
slowing down. The easiest rule of thumb is as soon
as you see that sign and when you see traffic
around you slowing down, slow down.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
But by the book, it's three hundred feet.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
So essentially, when you can see that twenty mile hour
sign flashing within three hundred feet, officers could technically write
you for going over twenty miles an hour, even if
you're not technically in the zone yet, so it's very
important and to try to start slowing down now.
Speaker 2 (09:02):
Typically, you know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Not supposed to give trade secrets, but we don't typically
enforce that until they're closer.
Speaker 2 (09:09):
To that sign. But depending on the speed of the driver,
how many.
Speaker 3 (09:13):
Kids are out, what time of day, what the traffic
is around, you can absolutely still get that ticket.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
Are the flashing signs of the school crosswalks, by the way,
are those controlled by the system the individual school? Who
has control of those?
Speaker 2 (09:26):
That's a great question.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
A lot of people don't know, But the schools actually
have the ability to control that because based on the
school zoned by law, there's certain time periods before school
starts and after school starts, how early and how late
they can.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
Actually start those up.
Speaker 3 (09:42):
But the schools actually control those going off and on.
Speaker 1 (09:45):
I've seen a couple that were just left on, like
school was off, yeah, out that day, and the lights
are still flashing. I'm like, why are we moving twenty when? Yeah?
The financials are the financial repercussions of of you know,
exceeding the speed limit, blowing through a stop sign, whatever,
when you're in a school zone during those protected hours.
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Do they double those the way that they do in
a construction zone.
Speaker 3 (10:11):
Not only do they double those, but depending on how
fast you're going, it could be a required court a parent.
So in most traffic tickets you can just pay it online,
through the mail, through over the phone, whatever, But if
you are going a certain speed or during certain times
with the school bus, you're absolutely required to attend court
for that.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
So anything school.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
Zone related, you are looking at having a mandatory court
of parents.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
Good good, I was. You know, as I said, I've
raised my own kids, I got grandkids. I'm watching out
for now, and I just endangering, harming, anything detrimental to
the well being of a child. I have very very
little sympathy for how I am. I've got There's a
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stop sign where I live, and I sit in the
evenings and I will watch all these people blow through there.
Hreas well. It's a twenty five miles per hour street.
They go through there at like fifty blow through the
stop side, and I'm thinking, at the next intersection is
the beginning of a school And you know, if you're
driving like that now, it just it scares me what
kind of people you are that you might you might
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endanger children like that.
Speaker 2 (11:17):
Yeah, it's very scary for sure.
Speaker 3 (11:19):
I mean, I'm a parent myself, so I would never
want anything to happen to anybody's child, especially mine.
Speaker 1 (11:25):
School zones and buses put aside, here, is there anything
else traffic consideration wise that we're not talking about. People
don't ask about think about outside of that zone or
outside of being near a bus when it comes to
school and how you drive.
Speaker 2 (11:43):
Yeah, believe it or not.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Actually, this time of year, starting now going all the
way through the end of October, one of the things
we don't think about when you live in Ohio, A
lot of people do not think about is how the
sun rises and how the sun sets, and this time
of year is most danger and all drivers are most
susceptible to being in a traffic accident based on the
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sun pattern. So, in other words, if you are getting
up in the morning and you are traveling east where
the sun is rising, the sun is so bright and
it's at such a unique angle being in this part
of the country this time of year that if you
don't have sunglasses and your sun visor and making sure
your defrost is on to make sure your windows aren't
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frosting up. Because the temperature is also a factor in
that that we see a lot of traffic accidents because
quite frankly, the way the sun is rising and setting.
So again, if you're driving home, like you're going out
to the West Side and you're driving down Broad Street
this time of year, the sun sets in a way
that is very difficult to differentiate the traffic light signal colors.
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So we see an uptick and an increase in accidents
based on that. So something as simple as keeping sunglasses
in your car is critical this time of year.
Speaker 1 (12:55):
This weekend, as we were getting school clothing ap purchase
and everything, went up to the outlet mall and I
actually saw a sunglass hut and I said, I'm not
doing this with all these kids, but I do need
to get in it, just because that as we head
into autumn, the tilt of the earth makes that sunrise
and sunset both more intense. Plus snow will get here eventually,
and the reflective factor of snow and sunshine. Yeah, good
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sunglasses could be very helpful.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Absolutely, Oh you said the dirty s ward. I'm not
ready for that.
Speaker 1 (13:25):
Ohio, it could happen tomorrow for all I know. Absolutely,
if you have any any questions regarding the traffic situation,
what you should do, shouldn't do? Could could get in
big trouble for anything else when it comes to you
know how to handle yourself around school buses, schools, children
and so forth. The man who can answer those questions
is in the studio right now, Columbus Police Sergeant James
Fuqua eight two one WTV and or eight hundred and sixty
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ten WTV and T I have another check of traffic
and weather together. What to do, what not to do?
What will it cost you if you mess up in
traffic around a school bus or in a school zone?
Thomas Police Officer James Sergeant Fuqua joining me to answer
your questions. Eight two one nine eight eight six number
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eight two one WTV and Bob. I want to let
you know I did see your your question or your
misunderstanding of what he said earlier on Facebook. We're going
to get into that, I promise you. John's been on
hold the longest, so he is up first on the
Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines. What's up, John, Hey.
Speaker 4 (14:24):
Good afternoon shot. How you done pretty good?
Speaker 1 (14:27):
As far as I know. I try not to ask
too many questions.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
We'll get I'd like to say thank you to offer
the fuqua for being on your show, and I just
want to voice my opinion. As far as flashing school lights,
I don't care what the penalty is right now, it
needs to be double because our children and our future
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are not worth There's nothing on the face of earth
worth you speeding through a school zone. As far as
making a mistake when a bus stops on a roadway,
I can understand that if in doubt stop, our children
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are worth the world.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
I'm with you, John, and like you said, the most
important thing you just said, if in doubt stop, which
is something that when we were talking off the air
today at that Broad Street segment out there, that is
essentially what the sergeant told me. If you don't know
for sure, just be safe and stop. And it makes
perfect sense. I have to look at it that way,
because you're right, the kids are more important than wherever
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I have to be. I was asking him a question
two about it. In my neighborhood, on the one of
the streets that I travel a great deal trying to
get out of the neighborhood. Last year, there were two
stops for children with disabilities. I think they were both
in wheelchairs. If I'm not mistaken, and I was asking him,
is there any time limit? Because literally I have sat
for ten minutes while the I guess it's mom was
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bringing one of the kids out of the house and
I'm thinking, I have really got to get to the station.
I really got to get you know, you wait, there's
no rule about that. There are some accommodations we make
for things in life that we think are really stupid.
This is something that you know, this doesn't fall into
the stupid category. This is about the kids. So you
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wait as long as it takes, and you know, turn
on the radio and listen to me while you're waiting. Tom,
You're on sixth n doble UTV and how are you.
Speaker 5 (16:30):
Hi. I have a quick question regarding stopping for school buses.
What about on a five lane roadway where there's two lanes,
say eastbound, two lanes westbound, and you have a continuous
turn lane in the middle, if are you required to
stop for a bus on the opposite side of the
street you're traveling.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
That's just what we were talking about. That Bob on
Facebook didn't understand from the beginning, So thanks for asking that.
Speaker 3 (16:54):
Yeah, it's a perfect segue. And that's a great question.
Thank you for that. Yeah, So to clear up not
only Bob's question and the confusion, no matter how wide
a street is, and we used off air, we were
talking about the example of Broad Street for example, that's
the widest street in Columbus, where certain parts of Broad
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Street are four lanes both ways eastbound, westbound, and if
a bus is stopped, regardless.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
Of which lane it is in, once.
Speaker 3 (17:26):
That bus has stopped and that stop sign is activated,
all lanes of traffic going the same way and the
opposite way has to.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Stop unless there's like one of those concrete islands between
eastbound and westbound and northbound and southbound. If there's no
concrete divider, no, no structure dividing the road, you have
to stop on both sides.
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (17:46):
So short of a freeway in Columbus, there aren't many
streets that I can think of that have a concrete
barrier that would require you to or allow you to
keep going regardless of if you're going to the opposite direction.
Speaker 5 (18:02):
Okay, thank you very much, clear us up question.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
Thank you for the question, Tom. I appreciate you listening.
I appreciate the call. Let me ask you real quickly,
let's make the sake from school buses to emergency vehicles,
same situation. Does everybody stop on both sides in that
same scenario if a police car an ambulance is coming
down the street.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Yeah, that's another great question.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And that's one of the things, especially for people who
may not have always lived in Ohio, because every state
has different laws and regulations as it relates to emergency vehicles,
but specifically here in the city of Columbus, and it's
a state code as well. When emergency vehicles, whether it's
an ambulance, a police officer, or any emergency service, when
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they are driving, you are to try to pull over
as close to the edge of the roadway as possible
and you are to stop until that emergency vehicle passes you.
So a lot of times, you know, in our job,
specifically for officers, it's very stressful when we are trying
to get from point A to point B, when someone's
life is in crisis in that moment and we want
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to make sure that we're doing everything to protect them
from whatever the situation is, that we beg drivers to
pull over as quickly as possible because you know, if
that was someone in your family that's in crisis for
whatever the reason, you would want to make sure that
we get there to help them come to a safe conclusion.
Speaker 1 (19:22):
And the you know, if you can't get over, if
you're in the middle, you can't get to the far
left of the far right. Just stop cop coming up
behind you at ninety miles an hour. As long as
you are not moving, he can get around you. Just
don't be moving. Just don't people kill me with that.
Let me just ease on over. No, don't ease on over.
Just stop. It's you're complicating things by it. And sometimes
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this right here leaving this building. I brought this up
and I've yet to get an answer to this. There
are times when you can be ticketed at fault in
an auto accident when somebody else is actually breaking the law.
Exiting this here radio station is a prime example of that.
When you pull out on the fifth Avenue. Now that
they've cleaned it up and we don't have all the
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shrubbery and stuff, it's a little easier to see. But
these yahoos would come out of Grand View and come
off of Dublin Road. This fifth Avenue is twenty five
out here, they come up through here sixty miles an hour.
They come around that bend, you pull out, you see
them way down there. Because you are judging traffic as
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if people are obeying the law.
Speaker 2 (20:30):
You don't.
Speaker 1 (20:30):
You think you've got five and a half seconds, not two,
right before Yahoo hits you. But if Yahoo hits you,
guess what, You're still getting a citation for pulling out
into traffic like that, which I've always found it. They
have to be able to prove that Yahoo was speeding.
And since it's easier to say you pulled out into traffic,
you're getting the ticket.
Speaker 2 (20:50):
Yeah, Unfortunately, the way it's written, you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
And that's nuts. That's but we have to compensate for that.
And I say this, I people you know occasionally will
get upset with me. But I'm just I say what
I mean. I mean what I say. I don't try
to be offensive, but I observe the world around me.
We got way too many people in the city of
Columbus that came to the City of Columbus from places
that didn't even have paved roads, and we're expecting them
to play by the same rules. You need to drive
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for them as well. You've got to be prepared for
their mistakes because they don't necessarily know. They might not
even have a license, maybe never took a test. You
know they're here. I know they're here. So until somebody
handles it, we got to deal with it. That's what
it comes down to. And especially, you know again this
time of year, with the buses rolling and the kids
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out there on the street, we need to be particularly
particularly protective of them because there are those who don't
even know to be protective of them. A two one
nine eighty six A two one WTV and Mike, you're
on the Legacy Retirement Group dot com phone lines. How
are you?
Speaker 6 (21:49):
I'm doing good. Thank you for taking a call. With
all due respect to the police officer. I'm looking at
page twenty two of the Digest and Motor Vehicle Laws
currently Vision Ohio Revised Code forty five to eleven point
seventy five. Now, this is the only thing that the
public actually gets to know the law by, okay, and
nowhere does it send anything about a concrete barrier, any barrier.
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It only says that a road that is four or
more lanes wide that doesn't include a turn lane, only
four or more lanes. So two lanes, two lanes, double
yellow line. Only the traffic proceeding in the direction of
the bus has to stop. There is nowhere anywhere where
it says anything about a barrier or something like that.
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So if what you're saying is true, how would the
general public for what that law is?
Speaker 4 (22:38):
The Only thing we have to go by.
Speaker 6 (22:39):
Is what's published by the State of Ohio putting out
the laws for us to know.
Speaker 1 (22:44):
Well, that's does Ohio vary from Columbus? Does Columbus has
a different interpretation or of it?
Speaker 3 (22:49):
No, So that's a very very good point by the caller,
And by no means am I saying that him looking
through the Ohio Revised Code is incorrect because I'm not
saying that.
Speaker 2 (22:59):
I want to be with my words.
Speaker 3 (23:00):
And there are differences depending on the municipalities.
Speaker 2 (23:05):
Right, So, the Ohio.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
Revised Code has certain laws and restrictions. The Columbus City
Code has laws and restrictions. Say, if we were in
Grove City, they may have different laws and restrictions.
Speaker 1 (23:15):
So there's no law in Grove City. I'm just saying, right.
Speaker 6 (23:19):
So again, but my honest point is if that is
the case, how could someone honestly be cited when the
only thing we have to go by for what the
laws are is what's published by the State of Ohio. Right,
that pull us over, and right it's a ticket for that.
How could we possibly be at fault because it's not
ignorance of the law. We are actually going by what
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the published law is. You see the point.
Speaker 2 (23:44):
Yeah, No, absolutely see the point. And you're very fair
in your point.
Speaker 3 (23:48):
And this is where, like I said earlier, where there's
frustrations with people that depending on what state you're in
and depending on what municipality. Now obviously we're talking laws
specific to the state of Ohio and Columbus, Ohio. So
with you looking through the Ohio Revised Code as opposed
to the Columbus City Code, the one thing I would encourage,
(24:08):
God forbid you ever got stopped for what you believe
is a correct code. That's what our court systems are for,
and you would have clearly a very viable option as
to why you should not have received a ticket.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Yeah, that would I think you'd end up going up
to chain there, Matt. Seriously, you could. You could essentially
change law in the entire state of ohiosolutely with something
like that.
Speaker 6 (24:29):
If you ever that's because you know, because I always
follow the law, God forbid. I mean I always do that.
But I would have to legitimately make an argument that,
you know, someone writing me a citation where I would
have no idea how to even know what that law is.
That's not ignorance of the law. You know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (24:47):
You should? You should. I went down and argued a
couple of times.
Speaker 6 (24:50):
I might question the I might question the validity of
a citation, perhaps a pull over slash warning, a questioning,
but a citation for that situation might be too far,
you might, that might go the wrong way.
Speaker 1 (25:01):
In court, I went down and questioned a couple of
tickets myself. Both were for obstructed signage, and uh, you know,
I I was sit here, look here it is, and
is that how it is? Yes, how it's been for
like a year? Okay? Yeah? And I walked away both times,
So that was wonderful. There's so I don't even want
to talk to this guy, some guyn Brian online?
Speaker 4 (25:23):
Three?
Speaker 1 (25:23):
What's up? Brian?
Speaker 4 (25:25):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:25):
So sartet fuqua.
Speaker 7 (25:26):
If I blast my music smoke weed as they f
the police, is that okay? Or do you discourage that?
Speaker 2 (25:32):
Well?
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I would never want anyone to not be able to
express their freedom of speech. So by no means would
I ever tell you what you could and could not say.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
That depends on what elected office you hold too.
Speaker 7 (25:45):
That's right, gentlemen, this is a great show. Chuck Brian
still here, President Turn Order Police, Capital City Laws nine.
Thank you for bringing us starting to win start. You're
one of the best in the business and it's a
true pleasure representing people like you. And thank you for
bringing this awareness.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
Well, thank you President Steel for those kind words. And
he is definitely our fearless leader of the Fraternal Order
of Polonius.
Speaker 1 (26:10):
To sleep occasionally man mornings, afternoons, middle of the night,
den matter.
Speaker 2 (26:14):
He's out there now, he's always out there fighting for
our people.
Speaker 7 (26:16):
Well listen, sorry, people will tell you there are times
in our careers we pulled over people like that and
they're wondering why they got a ticket, and I'm like,
come on, man, really, nine ten times you're respectful as
long as you're doing nothing too egregious, you hand over
your documents. Nine at ten times you're sent away with
the warning. And that's just the fact.
Speaker 1 (26:34):
Yeah, little common sense, a little common courtesy. It goes
a long way. Oh my gosh, already, can you turn
the clock back? Can I get another hour?
Speaker 2 (26:44):
Really?
Speaker 1 (26:45):
All right? Zach's plain? I got Matt and Frank both
holding on it. Guys. I'll tell you what if you
want to hang on, if you have particularly pertinent questions,
I will have Officer Fook will talk to you off
the air and answer your questions. But the music means
it is time for me to fly. We'll do this
again tomorrow night, beginning at six o'clock, and again I'll
end the show wishing it was two hours instead of one.
That's just the way I roll. I hope you'll be
(27:06):
here for this thing called the Power Hour on six
' ten WTVN.
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