February 25, 2025 • 8 mins
Dr. Phil Johnson, a regular contributor to Tim & Paul in the morning discusses UND Hockey & The 4 Nations.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I was there Saturday. I mean they, Tim was right.
They came out like they were shot out of a cannon,
and they, I think got the memo and got the
message that Kay, boys, we have to really step up.
We have to play our game. We have to be
aggressive these next several weeks in order to get an
opportunity to continue our season. So yeah, it was really
(00:22):
interesting the game Saturday. And I don't know if you
know this, Paul, and I was gonna ask Tim, is
that some kind of record where they scored three goals
on a major power play? I don't ever remember that
happening with the North Dakota hockey team.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I haven't heard yet if that was. I knew that was.
I know we've scored multiple goals on a five minute
advantage before, but I don't know what the actual most
is in regards to if that was the most three
or maybe we've scored four. That's a great question. I
will have to look it up. Tim didn't mention if
it was the most. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So yeah, and Darren had the greatest line. I don't
know if you heard the post game, but oh you
said that with and then he talked about that in
North Dakota then started a five minute major power play
where they the buffet lined open and the North Dakota
players showed up in their sweatpants.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, well said, I know, I didn't catch that part.
I was listening for different parts of it, but I
missed that part. But yeah it was, but yeah, I
I well, again, I look at it from a standpoint
of you know, if you have a goalie that is,
you know, giving you a chance by making the stop
say they always they're supposed to make, and then maybe
(01:41):
making a couple of really good ones, that allows your
team to play well and take advantage of opportunities. And
you know, TJ. Simptom Felter the last couple of weeks
has played really solid, and you know they're gonna just
kind of need that type of solid performance in the
pipes because the team they're getting this weekend has two
goaltenders that they don't hesitate going to either of them,
(02:04):
and they and they just you know, basically go to
work because they know they've got good solid goaltending. That's
been I think the biggest thing with Western Michigan is
they're just confident, like if even if we give up
a chance, we're gonna we're gonna get to save a
lot of times and then we can just play free
and fast, and and that's why Western Michigan has a
chance at Penrose Cup.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah. Absolutely, and I think, you know, it'll be a
real test. You know, this weekend in Kalamazoo. That's a
crazy place to play. Been there and trained there and
so I took care of the bron It's just really
a fun atmosphere. But but again, they're a very good team.
And but you know, having said that, you know, if
North Dakota can play like they did Saturday night, I
(02:45):
think they've got a real opportunity to maybe get a
split there. And I think that's what you hope for
at this point. Although a sweep would be awesome. I
don't know if it's necessarily realistic. But I think these
guys there, the majority of them are now healthy. They
look good, they look fresh, they look crisp. They're they're
playing with a lot of speed, a lot of intensity,
but also they're they're playing smarter, and you can see
(03:08):
that by their for check and you can see that
by they're getting back and helping their goals tender. There
there was a lot of block shots on Saturday. So
they're doing a lot of the little things that the
team needs to do, you know, to win games, and
hopefully that carries over for the next two weeks because
that will put them in a good position maybe to
grab one of those final NCAA tournament spots.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, so we're going to change a little bit here.
Because we talked a lot about the four Nations and
it was a huge success in Canada wins it. There
was a little rumbling through like internet and social media
that the Boston Bruins, you know, we're holding USA Hockey
and their medical group, you know, on their handling of
(03:53):
Charlie McAvoy, And I'm like, you know, I don't know
how you do that. I mean, they want to treat
Charlie McVoy just as good as anybody. So I guess
there was somebody was trying to make it sound like
there was some contention there from the Bruins. I'm sure
they're disappointed, but I mean, I don't know if there's
any deliberateness there that seems unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, you know, and I don't know what the undercurrent
is there. I do know doctor Joel Boyd, who was
taking care of the team's USA in the Four Nations Cup.
You know, he's a wild team doctor, and I don't
know if there's something going on there, you know, potentially.
Joel is a very good doc and I know him
(04:35):
very well. He actually was a year ahead of me
in our fellowship at Western Ontario in London. So the
problem with and that's what's going to be going forward,
are general manager is going to want their players to
play in something like this mid season because if they
do in current injury like Charlie has sustained, you know,
(04:55):
a dislocated shoulder that is going to require surgical repair,
you know, to fix it, so he'll be out to
sea playoffs. Are they going to want their players to
go that route because that does you know, risk the
you know, the team's you know, final result, you know,
as they get close to the playoffs. So you know,
that's gonna be an interesting little thing to do. It's
(05:17):
it's you know, the players always want to play in
those situations because there's nothing better than representing your country.
And it's a whole different level and a whole different uh,
you know, perspective going through and gutting through a National
Hockey League season is a little different than playing for
your country in international events. So but I think that,
(05:38):
you know, I'm not sure what the issue really is
that Boston's trying to get at, because that's just one
of the risks of playing hockey. You know, Joints do
get dislocated, and it's most notably the shoulder or the
ac joint, and you know that unfortunately happened to Charlie.
Charlie is a great guy, he's a great player, but
it's an unfortunate situation that happens. And uh uh, I
(06:00):
don't know if there was anything that led up to that.
Was he dealing with a bad shoulder? Should he have
been pulled out earlier? I don't know. And those are
things that you know, can can interfere with your decision
making process. But but if the player says no, I'm
good to go, you kind of got to trust them
(06:20):
a little bit. You put them through some testing and
see if they can handle it, and it looks like
they're good, then a way they go. So yeah, I
don't have any insight what the what the underlying current
is or discontent other than you know, I'm sure Boston
is really disappointed because now they're number one d Man
is out for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, well again, I you know, as a fan, it
was a wonderful thing and a lot of fun. Obviously,
I would have loved to have seen the US win.
The other thing I found out, how you know, the
interesting of these rosters. You talk about playing for your country,
you get strange bedfellows like Bennett playing with marsha on
(06:58):
you know, you know, those are the things that are
happening basically within these rosters that you know, let's be honest,
those guys aren't typically real good, you know, buddies basically.
I don't think so. Yeah, I think that's the other
side of it. But you're exactly right. I can see
where the league just says it's too valuable commodity to
put these guys out there where it's going to affect
(07:20):
our individual franchises. You know, a lot of money involved
here season, so it'll be interesting to see the discussions
in the future of where that goes. But okay, so
this weekend, I suppose you are you just watching from Montana?
Are you watching from home base around here? Are you
at the lake now? Because it's beach season.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
We'll be watching from Montana I have to teach tomorrow
up at the University of North Dakota, which I've been
doing for thirty five years.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That's always fun at the physical therapy school. Yeah, and
then we'll jump in my pickup at head back to Montana.
I've got some things I got to get taken care
about there, so I will pull up hopefully the game
on television or for sure on the iHeart app and
listen to it and hopefully cheer on a couple of
(08:09):
victories there in Kalamazoo. Yeah. Good, good series, really will
be well.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
We appreciate you dropping in Sands. Tim. He'll be back
with us tomorrow. He's just out on an appointment that
he had scheduled.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Nothing, that's okay. We got to have those so at this.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Point absolutely, yeah, you gotta do the routine checkups, you know,
So there we go. So appreciate you dropping in all
the same. Safe travels on your way up to Grand
Forks and then over to the Treasure State tomorrow and uh,
you know, we'll be uh, we'll be able to talk
about it next Tuesday. Appreciate this and we'll talk to
you next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Absolutely, have a good week, Paul and we'll talk to
you next week.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Sounds good. Thanks doctor Phil Johnson joining us here to
close out our Tuesday program.
I was there Saturday. I mean they, Tim was right.
They came out like they were shot out of a cannon,
and they, I think got the memo and got the
message that Kay, boys, we have to really step up.
We have to play our game. We have to be
aggressive these next several weeks in order to get an
opportunity to continue our season. So yeah, it was really
(00:22):
interesting the game Saturday. And I don't know if you
know this, Paul, and I was gonna ask Tim, is
that some kind of record where they scored three goals
on a major power play? I don't ever remember that
happening with the North Dakota hockey team.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
I haven't heard yet if that was. I knew that was.
I know we've scored multiple goals on a five minute
advantage before, but I don't know what the actual most
is in regards to if that was the most three
or maybe we've scored four. That's a great question. I
will have to look it up. Tim didn't mention if
it was the most. I'm not sure.
Speaker 1 (00:58):
So yeah, and Darren had the greatest line. I don't
know if you heard the post game, but oh you
said that with and then he talked about that in
North Dakota then started a five minute major power play
where they the buffet lined open and the North Dakota
players showed up in their sweatpants.
Speaker 2 (01:21):
Yes, well said, I know, I didn't catch that part.
I was listening for different parts of it, but I
missed that part. But yeah it was, but yeah, I
I well, again, I look at it from a standpoint
of you know, if you have a goalie that is,
you know, giving you a chance by making the stop
say they always they're supposed to make, and then maybe
(01:41):
making a couple of really good ones, that allows your
team to play well and take advantage of opportunities. And
you know, TJ. Simptom Felter the last couple of weeks
has played really solid, and you know they're gonna just
kind of need that type of solid performance in the
pipes because the team they're getting this weekend has two
goaltenders that they don't hesitate going to either of them,
(02:04):
and they and they just you know, basically go to
work because they know they've got good solid goaltending. That's
been I think the biggest thing with Western Michigan is
they're just confident, like if even if we give up
a chance, we're gonna we're gonna get to save a
lot of times and then we can just play free
and fast, and and that's why Western Michigan has a
chance at Penrose Cup.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Yeah. Absolutely, and I think, you know, it'll be a
real test. You know, this weekend in Kalamazoo. That's a
crazy place to play. Been there and trained there and
so I took care of the bron It's just really
a fun atmosphere. But but again, they're a very good team.
And but you know, having said that, you know, if
North Dakota can play like they did Saturday night, I
(02:45):
think they've got a real opportunity to maybe get a
split there. And I think that's what you hope for
at this point. Although a sweep would be awesome. I
don't know if it's necessarily realistic. But I think these
guys there, the majority of them are now healthy. They
look good, they look fresh, they look crisp. They're they're
playing with a lot of speed, a lot of intensity,
but also they're they're playing smarter, and you can see
(03:08):
that by their for check and you can see that
by they're getting back and helping their goals tender. There
there was a lot of block shots on Saturday. So
they're doing a lot of the little things that the
team needs to do, you know, to win games, and
hopefully that carries over for the next two weeks because
that will put them in a good position maybe to
grab one of those final NCAA tournament spots.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
Okay, so we're going to change a little bit here.
Because we talked a lot about the four Nations and
it was a huge success in Canada wins it. There
was a little rumbling through like internet and social media
that the Boston Bruins, you know, we're holding USA Hockey
and their medical group, you know, on their handling of
(03:53):
Charlie McAvoy, And I'm like, you know, I don't know
how you do that. I mean, they want to treat
Charlie McVoy just as good as anybody. So I guess
there was somebody was trying to make it sound like
there was some contention there from the Bruins. I'm sure
they're disappointed, but I mean, I don't know if there's
any deliberateness there that seems unnecessary.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Yeah, you know, and I don't know what the undercurrent
is there. I do know doctor Joel Boyd, who was
taking care of the team's USA in the Four Nations Cup.
You know, he's a wild team doctor, and I don't
know if there's something going on there, you know, potentially.
Joel is a very good doc and I know him
(04:35):
very well. He actually was a year ahead of me
in our fellowship at Western Ontario in London. So the
problem with and that's what's going to be going forward,
are general manager is going to want their players to
play in something like this mid season because if they
do in current injury like Charlie has sustained, you know,
(04:55):
a dislocated shoulder that is going to require surgical repair,
you know, to fix it, so he'll be out to
sea playoffs. Are they going to want their players to
go that route because that does you know, risk the
you know, the team's you know, final result, you know,
as they get close to the playoffs. So you know,
that's gonna be an interesting little thing to do. It's
(05:17):
it's you know, the players always want to play in
those situations because there's nothing better than representing your country.
And it's a whole different level and a whole different uh,
you know, perspective going through and gutting through a National
Hockey League season is a little different than playing for
your country in international events. So but I think that,
(05:38):
you know, I'm not sure what the issue really is
that Boston's trying to get at, because that's just one
of the risks of playing hockey. You know, Joints do
get dislocated, and it's most notably the shoulder or the
ac joint, and you know that unfortunately happened to Charlie.
Charlie is a great guy, he's a great player, but
it's an unfortunate situation that happens. And uh uh, I
(06:00):
don't know if there was anything that led up to that.
Was he dealing with a bad shoulder? Should he have
been pulled out earlier? I don't know. And those are
things that you know, can can interfere with your decision
making process. But but if the player says no, I'm
good to go, you kind of got to trust them
(06:20):
a little bit. You put them through some testing and
see if they can handle it, and it looks like
they're good, then a way they go. So yeah, I
don't have any insight what the what the underlying current
is or discontent other than you know, I'm sure Boston
is really disappointed because now they're number one d Man
is out for the rest of the season.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Yeah, well again, I you know, as a fan, it
was a wonderful thing and a lot of fun. Obviously,
I would have loved to have seen the US win.
The other thing I found out, how you know, the
interesting of these rosters. You talk about playing for your country,
you get strange bedfellows like Bennett playing with marsha on
(06:58):
you know, you know, those are the things that are
happening basically within these rosters that you know, let's be honest,
those guys aren't typically real good, you know, buddies basically.
I don't think so. Yeah, I think that's the other
side of it. But you're exactly right. I can see
where the league just says it's too valuable commodity to
put these guys out there where it's going to affect
(07:20):
our individual franchises. You know, a lot of money involved
here season, so it'll be interesting to see the discussions
in the future of where that goes. But okay, so
this weekend, I suppose you are you just watching from Montana?
Are you watching from home base around here? Are you
at the lake now? Because it's beach season.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
We'll be watching from Montana I have to teach tomorrow
up at the University of North Dakota, which I've been
doing for thirty five years.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Awesome.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
That's always fun at the physical therapy school. Yeah, and
then we'll jump in my pickup at head back to Montana.
I've got some things I got to get taken care
about there, so I will pull up hopefully the game
on television or for sure on the iHeart app and
listen to it and hopefully cheer on a couple of
(08:09):
victories there in Kalamazoo. Yeah. Good, good series, really will
be well.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
We appreciate you dropping in Sands. Tim. He'll be back
with us tomorrow. He's just out on an appointment that
he had scheduled.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Nothing, that's okay. We got to have those so at this.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Point absolutely, yeah, you gotta do the routine checkups, you know,
So there we go. So appreciate you dropping in all
the same. Safe travels on your way up to Grand
Forks and then over to the Treasure State tomorrow and uh,
you know, we'll be uh, we'll be able to talk
about it next Tuesday. Appreciate this and we'll talk to
you next Tuesday.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Absolutely, have a good week, Paul and we'll talk to
you next week.
Speaker 2 (08:43):
Sounds good. Thanks doctor Phil Johnson joining us here to
close out our Tuesday program.
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