November 21, 2024 • 16 mins
Dr. Ed Moore, our reisdnet historian, begins a two-part series on the 1880s in America.
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November twenty, first show, fifty two seventy eight, and it's
time for a little more history. Doctor Ed Moore, are
resident historian, joins me. Hello, sir, Happy Thanksgiving a week early.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Yeah, it's a great time of year, my favorite time
of year. Of forty five degrees this morning.
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few nights.
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back in and grabbed a light jacket. Yeah, but it
feels great.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
I love this time of year as well. Our topic
today if there's something that sort of says the more
things change, the more they stay the same, and history
repeats itself at all of those axioms that we've heard
of over the years. Whatever's going on in the world today,
it's kind of like, well, we've been here before.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
Yeah, we're all pretty egocentric thinking at our time, and
history is very very special. But it's probably why I
like history so much, because you find so many parallels
and connections. You know, you do dotted line on the wall,
things that happened. One of my favorite periods in American
history Anyways, eighteen eighty to nineteen ten, that thirty year period. Why,
(03:27):
it's a transition of what became the United States. I
mean it already was United States, but not real big.
There were thirty six or eight states then. But our
population is only fifty million people. And some of the
issues were wrestling with now, like immigration. It's how horrible
immigration is. Well, there were fifty million people in the
(03:49):
eighteen eighty census that lives in the United States, about
the size of Texas, in Florida now or then the
next yeah, next stree, say it's Pennsylvania, New York, Illinois
combined them all less than probably about forty four million
in those three states. Today, a very very different country.
(04:12):
And so I've been reading some on this. I thought,
you know, i'd make for an interesting show for people
to understand these parallels and understand some of the issues.
Some of the things we take for granted now began
in the eighteen eighties. During that decade.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Paint the decade what was the eighteen eighties.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Like growth in America, a lot of immigration, a lot
of people coming here from other places. The Irish immigration
wave had already occurred thirty years starting thirty years prior
through the Civil War, but then during this time frame
from eighteen eighty to nineteen ten, a lot of books
have been written about it. It was the European migration,
(04:54):
huge migration to America that a lot of our movies
when you look at The god Father and those kind
of movies, the settings that Godfather won in the settings,
those were the Mediterranean type folks that were coming in
Germans and I mean settling. America needed people, so we
(05:15):
had to settled the west. One of the points I'll
make here is the Oklahoma land Rush occurred in the
eighteen eighties, not that long, one hundred and thirty five
or so years ago. They opened up Oklahoma to get
give people I was one hundred and twenty acres I
think they could get and they all raced out at
the same time to get to put their stakes in
(05:36):
there a very different setting in welcome, wanting and welcoming
immigrants to come to America because they were needed. Now
our system's a jumbled mess, but we need to go
back to figuring out who do we need, what do
we need. We're not replacing ourselves. Western Europe is not
replacing themselves in terms of having enough children to sustain
(06:00):
going forward. So you have to build your population and
fill your job some way. We just been doing it wrong.
Then it was like open door, you'll come on right,
we'll give you land right. Just a crazy period in
American history. A lot of inventions started, a lot of
major corporations started that we now take for granted, all
(06:23):
started during that time frame.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Eleven minutes past the hour. Staying on time for a change,
That's something I don't do very well or often doctor
Edmore with me, a little more history. You're talking about
the eighteen eighties forward here in America.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
Let's look at politically. One of the things you look
at when you go through we start to think of
change and Republicans and Democrats. Well, that really began in
eighteen sixty Lincoln as the first Republican elected. And one
of the things I found fascinating is that there were
only four time periods in our history where a party,
(07:02):
one political party controlled the White House for three terms
or more. Only four times. In the modern era we
do eight years and back and forth. But one of
the times was Reagan Bush and then we went Democrat,
then we went Republican, then we went Democrat, then we
went Republican Democrat, and now we're back republican. That's pretty
(07:24):
common all throughout history. Lincoln to Chester a Arthur was
a twenty year time frame, Republicans controlled, McKinley to Taft
was a twelve year time frame, and FDR and Truman
a sixteen year time frame. Three out of the four
extended periods, we're republican. But it's a pendulum. American history
(07:45):
has always been the pendulum. People want all of this,
and then they go, no, we want that, and it
goes back and forth. In control. We've had assassination and
assassination attempts. I mean Donald Trump got shot, Reagan got shot,
Kennedy was killed. Back in this same time frame, we
lost to presidents. Garfield got shot and while he was
(08:08):
in office, and McKinley got shot while he was in office.
That's how Teddy Roosevelt became president. We've been a violent
society forever and people.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Ten Roosevelt got shot too.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Roosevelt got shot. Teddy Roosevelt got shot and gave a
one hour speech with a bullet in his long. Yeah,
a tough guy bull really really kind of like Reagan
making a joke while he's laying on the table. I
hope you're hope you're a Republican of the surgeon. I mean,
we've had we have picked well sometimes and sometimes we
(08:41):
choose poorly throughout our history. And over the next few months,
I'm going to focus on some of these presidencies during
that time frame from eighteen eighty to nineteen ten. Some
of them were really good and some of them were
scandal ridden with all kinds of problems, many of the
same things we see today, but so many cool things.
(09:02):
I did a sort of a timeline. I mean the
Panama Canal. January one, eighteen eighty, Panama Canal began the French.
French spent three years trying to build it didn't get anywhere.
I think twenty three thirty something years later, under Roosevelt,
we finally finished the Panama Canal. But what we learned
(09:23):
from that, it's sort of like now with Musk and
the push to go to space, or our entire space program,
which we've done radio shows on that back in the
sixties and seventies. It's the benefits you get out of
these kind of programs. It's not just going to the Moon,
it's how it changed communication and all kind of electronics
and all of these things that came out of the
(09:44):
Space program Panama Canal. We learned about disease. We learned
about how to treat malaria, and how to treat other
kind of jungle diseases, and treatments emerge.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
The things you encounter by doing X, Y and Z.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Out of necessity. Yeah, you have to do something to
the problem. That's the mother slowing you down. It is absolute. Boy,
did you just make that out? Maybe not. But the
canal began in eighteen eighty. Now we take it for granted,
and it's gotten bigger. And now if you've seen any
of the ships offshore that come through there, now there's there.
(10:19):
They're like cities out there. They're so big coming through. Amazing.
But over was that one hundred and fifty years of
time frame. As I said earlier, the national population in
eighteen eighty census was fifty million people. Fifty million. That's
a little less than the combined populations of Florida and Texas,
(10:40):
But that was our entire country at a point in time.
If you add the next three states, New York, Pennsylvania,
and Illinois together, that's less than fifty million people. So
the big change in this country was going from a
mostly rural extended trying to get people to move west
(11:01):
to boom where you know, we've got to put these
people somewhere, and we were trying to attract all these
people to come here. In November of excuse me, November
of eighteen eighty, James Garfield, the Republican was elected president,
and he I found different numbers. It's interesting. They couldn't
(11:23):
count very well back then, just like we don't count
very well now.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Only in certain states.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
The closest presidential election probably in history, about seven thousand
votes difference is the lowest I've found between those two.
So we all know about James Garfield. Probably nobody knows
about Hancock. I mean the losers throughout history. We could
do shows they're forgotten shows on the losers. You're running
(11:48):
for president of the United States and you almost win,
but nobody knows who you are.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
You're forgotten to history.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I always have a chuckle at AD's expense, because he's
got fourteen pages of notes and we get talking and
next thing you know, he's not even looking at them. Yeah,
I do them, and I never look at it. And
then I could see it in the last segment. He's
looking at his notes and he's doing the math in
his head. I'm in trouble, Go go. One of the
(12:19):
interesting contrasts probably getna cover three decades.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
I'm not talking really quickly in four minutes. Go ahead. No,
we're gonna do it a little lot of time, do
it a little lot of time.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
All right, We're gonna go a little long here, Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
But there's some interesting people in that timeframe two similar
to now, every forty to fifty years or so, we
get a Gates Elon Musk Bezos kind of innovator changed
the world this time frame. Back here in the eighteen eighties,
Thomas Edison and Alexander Graham Bell got together and they
(12:51):
formed the Oriental Telephone Company.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Why they call it that, who knows.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I don't know. Probably looking to go overseas with it,
or some kind of innovation. But off air, we were
talking about some of these people that created things that
now are absolutely have always fascinated me. But I still
I'm not smart enough to figure out all these things.
But how do they take a voice and transmit a
(13:19):
voice through a wire to wherever it went, or through
the air like we're doing right now. People are just
sitting in their car or at home or wherever they
happen to be, and they're hearing my voice. Fascinating putting
voice Edison had a lot to do, whether he stole
ideas or not. You're smirking with Victrola's and yeah, record
(13:46):
players taking someone's voice, or taking an orchestra and putting
in a little piece of vinyl and you can play
it and hear it just like they just said it.
Absolutely fascinating. These advents began in the eighteen eighties that
we now take for granted. Now the voice goes into
your computer somewhere. You can take this show and send
(14:09):
it to me, and I can send it to anybody
I want. I don't think we're as amazed by these
things as we should be. I think that's where this
comes from. A guy like Elon Musk, fascinating guy. I
think his mind is fascinated by the things he's able
to do. Takes money and whatever, but that's what drives
(14:32):
people like that. It's that creativity and the interest in
exploring new worlds or exploring small parts of our lives.
Talked about it.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
It's a cliche but they think outside the box.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
So it totally do. But I think there I'd love
to sit and have a beer with him because I
think his eyes light up when he starts talking about
creativity and doing things different. People like that are absolutely
fascinating and we all benefit from them. I mean, our
society benefits from the innovations that come from creativity. The
(15:06):
eighteen hundreds was when earlier we were talking about the flip.
What happened? Why was it different than to me anyway?
Is it went from completely our societies went from being
completely rural of horse and buggy and that type of
farming and to we're going to be different from here
(15:29):
on in. And that difference made the difference for our
country and what our country had ended up becoming about
the most powerful innovative country in the world. And I
think it's that spirit of innovation and creativity. The Chinese
in our modern era have kind of come around from
(15:49):
being totally rural for forever or dependent on that to innovative,
but they're not innovative where they are. And the Japanese
were like this back in the seventy eighties. Create copiers.
They can take something that you invent and you create
and make it better and then figure out how to
market it around the world. We're not so great copiers
(16:11):
as we are creators in our country and we stimulate creativity.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Well, it's a matter of personal pride. I'd like to think, Well.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Whatever it is, it's just the American way. It's the
way we are as people. We do different things. One
of the points I looking, I'll just pick them off
the page here. In July of eighteen eighty one, the
Tuskegee Institute was founded. Now, if you think of from
the Civil War and where the country was and how
(16:40):
African Americans or Black Americans were treated during those time frames,
A Booker T. Washington a creative, very creative Black person
in America. He invented all kinds of things and figured
out to take agriculture and be creative with agriculture.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Genius.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, he created this Tucky Tuskegee Institute that was four
black students to give them an opportunity for post secondary education.
We now have ninety nine HBCUs we call them, and
I come out of the higher ed world. Historically, black
colleges and universities, almost all of them in the South
and the Southeast, almost all of them, they're just a
(17:21):
couple around the rest of the country. And it's a
reflection of where we were in trying to create opportunity
and how best to create opportunity for people that prior
had no opportunity. So when we see the arguments, the
modern art arguments today about well, I don't know why
is the Florida has four HBCUs. Why are they because
we got all these others, we all ought to be
(17:42):
the same. There's now did some number search on it,
about a quarter of the students who attend HBCUs in America,
in these ninety nine institutions, a quarter are non black.
And there's that transition that's occurring based on programs like
Florida and m physical therapy and occupational therapy that others don't.
(18:03):
They're doing it. And there's changes that will occur over
time to where that probably be all fifty to fifty
or whatever. There'll still be HBCUs.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
But it's all rooted in the eighteen eighties, eighteen nineties
and the transitions in our country absolutely Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
Yeah, and because of the innovation of Booker.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
T can't wait to see what we cover next month.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Yeah, I'll get past what was that July of eighteen.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
You've gone in three lines in your notes.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
I was gonna do a decade today.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
I got to eighteen eighty one, So well done.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
We've got a great chance of getting through this in
the next four years.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Yeah, I'm the am, I the energizer Bunny or the
hair I'm not. Or the turtle I'm not sure. Yeah,
the tortoise.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Thanks for the time.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
More tortoise, I guess. So good to.
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Preston's Gucky Morning. On Preston, He's ose Hey, it is Thursday,
November twenty, first show, fifty two seventy eight, and it's
time for a little more history. Doctor Ed Moore, are
resident historian, joins me. Hello, sir, Happy Thanksgiving a week early.
Speaker 7 (02:25):
Yeah, it's a great time of year, my favorite time
of year. Of forty five degrees this morning.
Speaker 6 (02:29):
Oh yeah, buddy, I was loving it absolutely and I'm
gonna love the thirties when that comes in the next
few nights.
Speaker 7 (02:36):
I left the house and a T shirt and went
back in and grabbed a light jacket. Yeah, but it
feels great.
Speaker 6 (02:44):
I love this time of year as well. Our topic
today if there's something that sort of says the more
things change, the more they stay the same, and history
repeats itself at all of those axioms that we've heard
of over the years. Whatever's going on in the world today,
it's kind of like, well, we've been here before.
Speaker 7 (03:05):
Yeah, we're all pretty egocentric thinking at our time, and
history is very very special. But it's probably why I
like history so much, because you find so many parallels
and connections. You know, you do dotted line on the wall,
things that happened. One of my favorite periods in American
history Anyways, eighteen eighty to nineteen ten, that thirty year period. Why,
(03:27):
it's a transition of what became the United States. I
mean it already was United States, but not real big.
There were thirty six or eight states then. But our
population is only fifty million people. And some of the
issues were wrestling with now, like immigration. It's how horrible
immigration is. Well, there were fifty million people in the
(03:49):
eighteen eighty census that lives in the United States, about
the size of Texas, in Florida now or then the
next yeah, next stree, say it's Pennsylvania, New York, Illinois
combined them all less than probably about forty four million
in those three states. Today, a very very different country.
(04:12):
And so I've been reading some on this. I thought,
you know, i'd make for an interesting show for people
to understand these parallels and understand some of the issues.
Some of the things we take for granted now began
in the eighteen eighties. During that decade.
Speaker 6 (04:29):
Paint the decade what was the eighteen eighties.
Speaker 7 (04:31):
Like growth in America, a lot of immigration, a lot
of people coming here from other places. The Irish immigration
wave had already occurred thirty years starting thirty years prior
through the Civil War, but then during this time frame
from eighteen eighty to nineteen ten, a lot of books
have been written about it. It was the European migration,
(04:54):
huge migration to America that a lot of our movies
when you look at The god Father and those kind
of movies, the settings that Godfather won in the settings,
those were the Mediterranean type folks that were coming in
Germans and I mean settling. America needed people, so we
(05:15):
had to settled the west. One of the points I'll
make here is the Oklahoma land Rush occurred in the
eighteen eighties, not that long, one hundred and thirty five
or so years ago. They opened up Oklahoma to get
give people I was one hundred and twenty acres I
think they could get and they all raced out at
the same time to get to put their stakes in
(05:36):
there a very different setting in welcome, wanting and welcoming
immigrants to come to America because they were needed. Now
our system's a jumbled mess, but we need to go
back to figuring out who do we need, what do
we need. We're not replacing ourselves. Western Europe is not
replacing themselves in terms of having enough children to sustain
(06:00):
going forward. So you have to build your population and
fill your job some way. We just been doing it wrong.
Then it was like open door, you'll come on right,
we'll give you land right. Just a crazy period in
American history. A lot of inventions started, a lot of
major corporations started that we now take for granted, all
(06:23):
started during that time frame.
Speaker 6 (06:28):
Eleven minutes past the hour. Staying on time for a change,
That's something I don't do very well or often doctor
Edmore with me, a little more history. You're talking about
the eighteen eighties forward here in America.
Speaker 7 (06:41):
Let's look at politically. One of the things you look
at when you go through we start to think of
change and Republicans and Democrats. Well, that really began in
eighteen sixty Lincoln as the first Republican elected. And one
of the things I found fascinating is that there were
only four time periods in our history where a party,
(07:02):
one political party controlled the White House for three terms
or more. Only four times. In the modern era we
do eight years and back and forth. But one of
the times was Reagan Bush and then we went Democrat,
then we went Republican, then we went Democrat, then we
went Republican Democrat, and now we're back republican. That's pretty
(07:24):
common all throughout history. Lincoln to Chester a Arthur was
a twenty year time frame, Republicans controlled, McKinley to Taft
was a twelve year time frame, and FDR and Truman
a sixteen year time frame. Three out of the four
extended periods, we're republican. But it's a pendulum. American history
(07:45):
has always been the pendulum. People want all of this,
and then they go, no, we want that, and it
goes back and forth. In control. We've had assassination and
assassination attempts. I mean Donald Trump got shot, Reagan got shot,
Kennedy was killed. Back in this same time frame, we
lost to presidents. Garfield got shot and while he was
(08:08):
in office, and McKinley got shot while he was in office.
That's how Teddy Roosevelt became president. We've been a violent
society forever and people.
Speaker 6 (08:17):
Ten Roosevelt got shot too.
Speaker 7 (08:18):
Roosevelt got shot. Teddy Roosevelt got shot and gave a
one hour speech with a bullet in his long. Yeah,
a tough guy bull really really kind of like Reagan
making a joke while he's laying on the table. I
hope you're hope you're a Republican of the surgeon. I mean,
we've had we have picked well sometimes and sometimes we
(08:41):
choose poorly throughout our history. And over the next few months,
I'm going to focus on some of these presidencies during
that time frame from eighteen eighty to nineteen ten. Some
of them were really good and some of them were
scandal ridden with all kinds of problems, many of the
same things we see today, but so many cool things.
(09:02):
I did a sort of a timeline. I mean the
Panama Canal. January one, eighteen eighty, Panama Canal began the French.
French spent three years trying to build it didn't get anywhere.
I think twenty three thirty something years later, under Roosevelt,
we finally finished the Panama Canal. But what we learned
(09:23):
from that, it's sort of like now with Musk and
the push to go to space, or our entire space program,
which we've done radio shows on that back in the
sixties and seventies. It's the benefits you get out of
these kind of programs. It's not just going to the Moon,
it's how it changed communication and all kind of electronics
and all of these things that came out of the
(09:44):
Space program Panama Canal. We learned about disease. We learned
about how to treat malaria, and how to treat other
kind of jungle diseases, and treatments emerge.
Speaker 6 (09:54):
The things you encounter by doing X, Y and Z.
Speaker 7 (09:57):
Out of necessity. Yeah, you have to do something to
the problem. That's the mother slowing you down. It is absolute. Boy,
did you just make that out? Maybe not. But the
canal began in eighteen eighty. Now we take it for granted,
and it's gotten bigger. And now if you've seen any
of the ships offshore that come through there, now there's there.
(10:19):
They're like cities out there. They're so big coming through. Amazing.
But over was that one hundred and fifty years of
time frame. As I said earlier, the national population in
eighteen eighty census was fifty million people. Fifty million. That's
a little less than the combined populations of Florida and Texas,
(10:40):
But that was our entire country at a point in time.
If you add the next three states, New York, Pennsylvania,
and Illinois together, that's less than fifty million people. So
the big change in this country was going from a
mostly rural extended trying to get people to move west
(11:01):
to boom where you know, we've got to put these
people somewhere, and we were trying to attract all these
people to come here. In November of excuse me, November
of eighteen eighty, James Garfield, the Republican was elected president,
and he I found different numbers. It's interesting. They couldn't
(11:23):
count very well back then, just like we don't count
very well now.
Speaker 6 (11:26):
Only in certain states.
Speaker 7 (11:27):
The closest presidential election probably in history, about seven thousand
votes difference is the lowest I've found between those two.
So we all know about James Garfield. Probably nobody knows
about Hancock. I mean the losers throughout history. We could
do shows they're forgotten shows on the losers. You're running
(11:48):
for president of the United States and you almost win,
but nobody knows who you are.
Speaker 6 (11:52):
You're forgotten to history.
Speaker 7 (11:54):
Isn't that crazy?
Speaker 6 (11:57):
I always have a chuckle at AD's expense, because he's
got fourteen pages of notes and we get talking and
next thing you know, he's not even looking at them. Yeah,
I do them, and I never look at it. And
then I could see it in the last segment. He's
looking at his notes and he's doing the math in
his head. I'm in trouble, Go go. One of the
(12:19):
interesting contrasts probably getna cover three decades.
Speaker 7 (12:22):
I'm not talking really quickly in four minutes. Go ahead. No,
we're gonna do it a little lot of time, do
it a little lot of time.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
All right, We're gonna go a little long here, Go ahead.
Speaker 7 (12:30):
But there's some interesting people in that timeframe two similar
to now, every forty to fifty years or so, we
get a Gates Elon Musk Bezos kind of innovator changed
the world this time frame. Back here in the eighteen eighties,
Thomas Edison and Alexander Graham Bell got together and they
(12:51):
formed the Oriental Telephone Company.
Speaker 6 (12:55):
Why they call it that, who knows.
Speaker 7 (12:57):
I don't know. Probably looking to go overseas with it,
or some kind of innovation. But off air, we were
talking about some of these people that created things that
now are absolutely have always fascinated me. But I still
I'm not smart enough to figure out all these things.
But how do they take a voice and transmit a
(13:19):
voice through a wire to wherever it went, or through
the air like we're doing right now. People are just
sitting in their car or at home or wherever they
happen to be, and they're hearing my voice. Fascinating putting
voice Edison had a lot to do, whether he stole
ideas or not. You're smirking with Victrola's and yeah, record
(13:46):
players taking someone's voice, or taking an orchestra and putting
in a little piece of vinyl and you can play
it and hear it just like they just said it.
Absolutely fascinating. These advents began in the eighteen eighties that
we now take for granted. Now the voice goes into
your computer somewhere. You can take this show and send
(14:09):
it to me, and I can send it to anybody
I want. I don't think we're as amazed by these
things as we should be. I think that's where this
comes from. A guy like Elon Musk, fascinating guy. I
think his mind is fascinated by the things he's able
to do. Takes money and whatever, but that's what drives
(14:32):
people like that. It's that creativity and the interest in
exploring new worlds or exploring small parts of our lives.
Talked about it.
Speaker 6 (14:41):
It's a cliche but they think outside the box.
Speaker 7 (14:43):
So it totally do. But I think there I'd love
to sit and have a beer with him because I
think his eyes light up when he starts talking about
creativity and doing things different. People like that are absolutely
fascinating and we all benefit from them. I mean, our
society benefits from the innovations that come from creativity. The
(15:06):
eighteen hundreds was when earlier we were talking about the flip.
What happened? Why was it different than to me anyway?
Is it went from completely our societies went from being
completely rural of horse and buggy and that type of
farming and to we're going to be different from here
(15:29):
on in. And that difference made the difference for our
country and what our country had ended up becoming about
the most powerful innovative country in the world. And I
think it's that spirit of innovation and creativity. The Chinese
in our modern era have kind of come around from
(15:49):
being totally rural for forever or dependent on that to innovative,
but they're not innovative where they are. And the Japanese
were like this back in the seventy eighties. Create copiers.
They can take something that you invent and you create
and make it better and then figure out how to
market it around the world. We're not so great copiers
(16:11):
as we are creators in our country and we stimulate creativity.
Speaker 6 (16:17):
Well, it's a matter of personal pride. I'd like to think, Well.
Speaker 7 (16:20):
Whatever it is, it's just the American way. It's the
way we are as people. We do different things. One
of the points I looking, I'll just pick them off
the page here. In July of eighteen eighty one, the
Tuskegee Institute was founded. Now, if you think of from
the Civil War and where the country was and how
(16:40):
African Americans or Black Americans were treated during those time frames,
A Booker T. Washington a creative, very creative Black person
in America. He invented all kinds of things and figured
out to take agriculture and be creative with agriculture.
Speaker 6 (16:59):
Genius.
Speaker 7 (17:00):
Yeah, he created this Tucky Tuskegee Institute that was four
black students to give them an opportunity for post secondary education.
We now have ninety nine HBCUs we call them, and
I come out of the higher ed world. Historically, black
colleges and universities, almost all of them in the South
and the Southeast, almost all of them, they're just a
(17:21):
couple around the rest of the country. And it's a
reflection of where we were in trying to create opportunity
and how best to create opportunity for people that prior
had no opportunity. So when we see the arguments, the
modern art arguments today about well, I don't know why
is the Florida has four HBCUs. Why are they because
we got all these others, we all ought to be
(17:42):
the same. There's now did some number search on it,
about a quarter of the students who attend HBCUs in America,
in these ninety nine institutions, a quarter are non black.
And there's that transition that's occurring based on programs like
Florida and m physical therapy and occupational therapy that others don't.
(18:03):
They're doing it. And there's changes that will occur over
time to where that probably be all fifty to fifty
or whatever. There'll still be HBCUs.
Speaker 6 (18:12):
But it's all rooted in the eighteen eighties, eighteen nineties
and the transitions in our country absolutely Yeah.
Speaker 7 (18:16):
Yeah, and because of the innovation of Booker.
Speaker 6 (18:20):
T can't wait to see what we cover next month.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
Yeah, I'll get past what was that July of eighteen.
Speaker 6 (18:28):
You've gone in three lines in your notes.
Speaker 7 (18:30):
I was gonna do a decade today.
Speaker 6 (18:32):
I got to eighteen eighty one, So well done.
Speaker 7 (18:35):
Yeah, thank you.
Speaker 6 (18:36):
We've got a great chance of getting through this in
the next four years.
Speaker 7 (18:38):
Yeah, I'm the am, I the energizer Bunny or the
hair I'm not. Or the turtle I'm not sure. Yeah,
the tortoise.
Speaker 6 (18:45):
Thanks for the time.
Speaker 7 (18:45):
More tortoise, I guess. So good to.
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