May 14, 2025 • 14 mins
Heartland and Rassmussen combined to do some polling and the results left jaws swinging open. Justin Haskins of the Heartland Institute weighed-in to explain the numbers.
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Speaker 1 (00:03):
And here we go. It's the third hour of the
morning show. Great to be with you Tuesday, May the thirteenth, unbelievable.
Before you know it, we are going to be shopping
for Christmas and putting up the tree.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
OSE's over there in Studio one A. I'm here in
Studio one B, and I am joined once again by
our friend from the Heartland Institute. He is an author,
he's a researcher, works with Glenn Beck on his books.
He is Justin Haskins. Hello, Justin. How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm doing very well. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I am terrific. We have been talking all morning about
the polling that you did with Rasmusen, and let me
just start with this. What is the most disturbing result
in the poll to you?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think that did you get to the elon Musk?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We did? We sure did, Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I would say that that one is probably the most
disturbing one. I mean, there are many choose from, but
I would say that I would say that that one's
the most disturbing one. The idea that you would have
seven and ten Democrats say that they would if they
could put elon Musk in path a law that would
put Elon Musk in prison? Is I think it's perfectly
(01:20):
indictive of where the left is in this country today.
In this poll, which is really amazing about this pole
question was seven and ten Democrats say that Elon Musk
should go to jail, he should be imprisoned, and that
it should happen. Very specifically in the question, it says
this for his work at DOGE. That's the question, would
(01:44):
you support a law that would imprison Elon Musk for
his work at DOGE, not for some other thing. So
it's not like you could say, well, maybe they were
just imagining some other violation of the law that we've
never heard of, some conspiracy theory or something like that.
It can't be that we specifically said for his work
at DOGE. And so what this tells you is a
(02:05):
few different things. One it tells you that putting government
spending is, to borrow a phrase from the left, an
existential crisis for the left. Clearly, very clearly that's the case.
Another thing that this very clearly shows us is that
this sort of authoritarianism that we saw with Donald Trump
(02:27):
and this sort of desire to throw Trump in prison
for years, the Russian collusion conspiracy theories and all of
that stuff wasn't just limited to Trump. It's not just
limited to him anymore. It wasn't a one off thing. Well,
they bought it with Donald Trump, but they probably wouldn't
buy it with anybody else. It seems like we're reaching
(02:48):
a moment in American politics where anybody who becomes prominent
on the right, if they're deemed a threat by the media,
not because they did something illegal, but just because they
don't like the policy right, then that justifies putting them
in jail and passing a law to put a single
(03:11):
person in jail. It's just an incredible thing to support.
Just In and of his own size, even if he
was committing crimes. You should never support a law that's
designed to just put one person in jail. I mean,
this is just absolutely incredible what's happening on the left.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Back with Justin Haskins of the Heartland Institute talking about
polling that we have discussed this morning. This was our
big stories in the press box. Justin these polls and
the results inside of them are remarkable on a lot
of fronts. There are a few areas that are a
little more heartwarming. We'll get to those, but they're not
(03:52):
a lot of them. Why do you think democrats are
so disconnected from I don't even know what word to use,
but so focused on vendettas and vengeance and in this case,
just not liking that this guy's uncovering waste in government.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I think I think there's a lot of a
lot of reasons for it. I think the most sort
of obvious reason on the surface is that the media
on the left paints the right as you know, especially Nazis.
I mean they literally called the Elon Muska Nazi. They
(04:31):
you know, tried to put Donald Trump in jail numerous times.
They said that he was a dictator. They use terms
that if you believe them, if you take them literally,
then you know, why aren't you putting the Nazi in jail?
Why aren't you putting the dictator in jail? Why is
the dictator able to escape all these you know, these convictions,
(04:53):
these forty plus convictions, felony counts and things like that
that Donald Trump had. I mean, I think that's I
think that the big part of it. I think you
have the educational system, of course, is radicalized younger people
who are much more likely by the way to support,
you know, all of these crazy policies in the polls,
(05:13):
and I just think that there's a radicalization there. But
I think fundamentally the biggest issue, if you're going to
get to the root cause of all of it, is
that I don't I think the left has just completely
adopted the ends justify the means, and I don't think
that they're guided by sort of these overarching principles of liberty.
(05:36):
Even for the other side. I think that their ideology is, now,
we get to have liberty because we're good guys, and
everyone who disagrees with us, depending on how much they
disagree with us, they don't get to have liberty because
they're too dangerous to have it. And this is the
fundamental problem. See, I don't want to silence anybody on
(05:59):
the left. Are how crazy they are, right, I actually
love listening to the crazies on the left, It's one
of my favorite things to do. But they want to
silence the people on the right with whom they don't agree,
and not all of them, obviously, but a huge chunk
of them do.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, that's the irony of it all. Justin is the
Party of Inclusivity, is in fact the most exclusive. The
party that is the big tent is actually the smallest tent.
You either agree or you're out, you know what. I'm
reminded of the fact, you know, Elon Musk was one
of their guys when he was just making electrical vehicles
and staying in his lane. I'm reminded that Donald Trump
(06:35):
was a Democrat. I'm reminded of a guy named Brandon
Stroco who founded the walk Away campaign. They were all
in the club until they weren't, and boy when they
were put out of it, they were put out big.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That's right. Well, they're traders now, Preston. And what do
you do with traders? You lock them up with them
in jail. I think, I honestly think there's a degree.
You know, we saw that, and we've seen this before
with Clarence Thomas than other people. Right, when you are
part of a group who's supposed to be holding specific
ideological views supporting certain candidates on the left and you don't,
(07:10):
you are treated much more harshly than someone who just
was never in that group or isn't part of a
demographic that's supposed to be on the left. And I
think that this is because it's a huge threat to them.
I mean, it's a huge threat to see people like
Elon Musk move on from the left. They can't have
that across the board or else they're in huge.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Trouble joining us. Justin Haskins from the Heartlands Institute, tell me,
give me something in this poll that is not so horrible.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Sure, okay, So did you get to the questions about socialism?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
We yeah, And that struck me as odd though, given
that they that seventy percent don't think it's a good thing,
or what's the number, thirty two percent hope China wins.
Seventy one percent think free markets better than socialists them.
But yet there's this but that's in there.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, seventy percent say they prefer a free market
system over socialism. I think only eighteen percent eighteen percent
said they had a favorable view of communism. But then
when you get to questions about candidates in twenty twenty
eight election, we asked very specifically, would you like to
(08:27):
see a Democratic socialist candidate win the next presidential election?
Although only thirty one percent overall said yes, which is
a good thing, forty six percent said no, I don't
want that. Among younger people, especially the percentages were much
much higher. Fifty percent of eighteen to twenty nine year
old said they do want a Democratic socialist candidate to
(08:48):
win the next election. Forty percent of those between thirty
to thirty nine, So we're talking about gen Z and
millennials pretty much universally saying they have a really high
favorability of Democratics socialists. In fact, even the thirty to
thirty nine year olds, forty percent said yes, only thirty
eight percent said no, twenty two said not sure. So
(09:09):
there were support for both those groups very, very high.
So in the next election, that's not necessarily a crisis
for the right, but it is a crisis for the
right if you're looking down the road, say ten, ten years,
twenty years, something like that. Now, now that's the primary
voting demographic, those two groups together, and if you assume
(09:31):
that the next young generation also has a favorable view
of it, now you just are completely screwed.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Final segment here with Justin Haskins of the Heartland Institute,
a poll with Heartland and Rasmussen talking about a couple
of different things, well actually a lot of things, but
really boiled down and distilled Democrats supporting the idea of
imprisoning Elon Musk solely because he's leading Doge. The irony
is just unbelievable on so many levels. There, and then
(10:02):
the idea here is that socialism continues to hold a
place in young people's ideals. And Justin I was asking
you in the break, it seems that the last election
showed young men swinging to the right really supporting Donald Trump.
Can you extrapolate or maybe theorized, does this mean that
(10:24):
the real issue here with the younger voters is with
primarily young women.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, in our particular poll, we don't have enough data
to be able to pull a sample size large enough
to get an answer to that question. But I think overall,
I think there's been a lot of work done on
that that shows clearly that is the case. I mean,
I think that, and I don't think it's surprising. Right,
younger women are being told that they're the ones being oppressed,
(10:51):
They're the ones whose rights are being taken away. There's
all this structural bias against women, and young men are
being to old, especially young white men are being told
that they're the problem. There's toxic masculinity.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, but transsexualism is taking all the women's spaces
and attacking women. That's the disconnect I don't get.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well. The left has always had a degree of schizophrenia
in it, and no one in the left seems to notice.
But it never made sense to have radical feminism. It
never made sense to have radical feminism in the same
group with the Islamicists. Those two things don't belong together,
and yet they've they haven't had a problem with that
(11:36):
for for decades. This is a this is an ideology.
This tent is it's not even just a big tent,
it's it's a tent that makes no sense at all
when you have had breaking down all yeah, it just
makes no sense. But ultimately, what they all have in
common is a perception that they are oppressed by this
(11:58):
sort of establishment or by some other group of people,
and that they're all banding together to stop the oppressors.
That's what they all have in common, and I think
with younger women, that's the narrative that they've been told
over and over and over again. We're seeing the same
trend play out, by the way, in Europe. When you
look at European elections, there has been a huge movement
(12:19):
on the right amongst younger men and older people are
actually becoming a little bit more likely to vote for
the establishment over there for the left than and younger
men tend to be more likely to go towards the right.
Young women still are supporting the left, And I just
think that it goes into this oppressor sort of mentality.
(12:43):
I don't think that women universally have been convinced that
they are oppressed, younger women to the degree that they
are right now. And it all goes back to education,
to colleges. It all goes back to the media and
Hollywood and everyone giving the same walking in lockstep with
the same messaging. If you do it over and over
and over again, people eventually believe it.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Justin inside this same polling you you talk about the
tariff war. Here in the polling, and a plurality, it
would appear of Democrat voters thirty two percent actually want
China to win. I take it this is largely more
than likely to simply spike Trump.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I love this question because it makes absolutely no sense
for anyone to root for a foreign country to beat
their own country in anything. But that's exactly what's going
on with Democrats. What it shows very clearly is that
the left would rather see the Trump administration fail than
see America succeed. And it all goes back to the
(13:48):
same sort of hyperpartisanship that exists. I understand there's a
lot of partisanship on the right as well, sure, but
not to the degree that we see. In this poll.
By the way, thirty eight percent of Democrats, thirty two
percent said they want Trump to win, thirty or sorry.
Thirty two percent of Democrats said they wanted China to win.
Thirty percent said Trump, thirty eight percent said not sure.
(14:11):
So that just goes to show you, I think gives
a lot of people who they know that they should
say Trump, but they're not going to say to Trump.
They can't bring themselves to say China either, so they're
just going to say we're not sure. They just can't
stomach the thought of signing their name to the Trump administration,
even when they know that they should do it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Justin you keep being you, brother, Thanks so very much
for all you're doing, and I appreciate your time as always.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Thank you, sir, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Thank you. Justin Haskins with us this morning on the
Morning Show
And here we go. It's the third hour of the
morning show. Great to be with you Tuesday, May the thirteenth, unbelievable.
Before you know it, we are going to be shopping
for Christmas and putting up the tree.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
OSE's over there in Studio one A. I'm here in
Studio one B, and I am joined once again by
our friend from the Heartland Institute. He is an author,
he's a researcher, works with Glenn Beck on his books.
He is Justin Haskins. Hello, Justin. How are you.
Speaker 2 (00:31):
I'm doing very well. How are you?
Speaker 1 (00:33):
I am terrific. We have been talking all morning about
the polling that you did with Rasmusen, and let me
just start with this. What is the most disturbing result
in the poll to you?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I think that did you get to the elon Musk?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
We did? We sure did, Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:54):
I would say that that one is probably the most
disturbing one. I mean, there are many choose from, but
I would say that I would say that that one's
the most disturbing one. The idea that you would have
seven and ten Democrats say that they would if they
could put elon Musk in path a law that would
put Elon Musk in prison? Is I think it's perfectly
(01:20):
indictive of where the left is in this country today.
In this poll, which is really amazing about this pole
question was seven and ten Democrats say that Elon Musk
should go to jail, he should be imprisoned, and that
it should happen. Very specifically in the question, it says
this for his work at DOGE. That's the question, would
(01:44):
you support a law that would imprison Elon Musk for
his work at DOGE, not for some other thing. So
it's not like you could say, well, maybe they were
just imagining some other violation of the law that we've
never heard of, some conspiracy theory or something like that.
It can't be that we specifically said for his work
at DOGE. And so what this tells you is a
(02:05):
few different things. One it tells you that putting government
spending is, to borrow a phrase from the left, an
existential crisis for the left. Clearly, very clearly that's the case.
Another thing that this very clearly shows us is that
this sort of authoritarianism that we saw with Donald Trump
(02:27):
and this sort of desire to throw Trump in prison
for years, the Russian collusion conspiracy theories and all of
that stuff wasn't just limited to Trump. It's not just
limited to him anymore. It wasn't a one off thing. Well,
they bought it with Donald Trump, but they probably wouldn't
buy it with anybody else. It seems like we're reaching
(02:48):
a moment in American politics where anybody who becomes prominent
on the right, if they're deemed a threat by the media,
not because they did something illegal, but just because they
don't like the policy right, then that justifies putting them
in jail and passing a law to put a single
(03:11):
person in jail. It's just an incredible thing to support.
Just In and of his own size, even if he
was committing crimes. You should never support a law that's
designed to just put one person in jail. I mean,
this is just absolutely incredible what's happening on the left.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Back with Justin Haskins of the Heartland Institute talking about
polling that we have discussed this morning. This was our
big stories in the press box. Justin these polls and
the results inside of them are remarkable on a lot
of fronts. There are a few areas that are a
little more heartwarming. We'll get to those, but they're not
(03:52):
a lot of them. Why do you think democrats are
so disconnected from I don't even know what word to use,
but so focused on vendettas and vengeance and in this case,
just not liking that this guy's uncovering waste in government.
Speaker 2 (04:11):
Yeah, I think I think there's a lot of a
lot of reasons for it. I think the most sort
of obvious reason on the surface is that the media
on the left paints the right as you know, especially Nazis.
I mean they literally called the Elon Muska Nazi. They
(04:31):
you know, tried to put Donald Trump in jail numerous times.
They said that he was a dictator. They use terms
that if you believe them, if you take them literally,
then you know, why aren't you putting the Nazi in jail?
Why aren't you putting the dictator in jail? Why is
the dictator able to escape all these you know, these convictions,
(04:53):
these forty plus convictions, felony counts and things like that
that Donald Trump had. I mean, I think that's I
think that the big part of it. I think you
have the educational system, of course, is radicalized younger people
who are much more likely by the way to support,
you know, all of these crazy policies in the polls,
(05:13):
and I just think that there's a radicalization there. But
I think fundamentally the biggest issue, if you're going to
get to the root cause of all of it, is
that I don't I think the left has just completely
adopted the ends justify the means, and I don't think
that they're guided by sort of these overarching principles of liberty.
(05:36):
Even for the other side. I think that their ideology is, now,
we get to have liberty because we're good guys, and
everyone who disagrees with us, depending on how much they
disagree with us, they don't get to have liberty because
they're too dangerous to have it. And this is the
fundamental problem. See, I don't want to silence anybody on
(05:59):
the left. Are how crazy they are, right, I actually
love listening to the crazies on the left, It's one
of my favorite things to do. But they want to
silence the people on the right with whom they don't agree,
and not all of them, obviously, but a huge chunk
of them do.
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Well, that's the irony of it all. Justin is the
Party of Inclusivity, is in fact the most exclusive. The
party that is the big tent is actually the smallest tent.
You either agree or you're out, you know what. I'm
reminded of the fact, you know, Elon Musk was one
of their guys when he was just making electrical vehicles
and staying in his lane. I'm reminded that Donald Trump
(06:35):
was a Democrat. I'm reminded of a guy named Brandon
Stroco who founded the walk Away campaign. They were all
in the club until they weren't, and boy when they
were put out of it, they were put out big.
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That's right. Well, they're traders now, Preston. And what do
you do with traders? You lock them up with them
in jail. I think, I honestly think there's a degree.
You know, we saw that, and we've seen this before
with Clarence Thomas than other people. Right, when you are
part of a group who's supposed to be holding specific
ideological views supporting certain candidates on the left and you don't,
(07:10):
you are treated much more harshly than someone who just
was never in that group or isn't part of a
demographic that's supposed to be on the left. And I
think that this is because it's a huge threat to them.
I mean, it's a huge threat to see people like
Elon Musk move on from the left. They can't have
that across the board or else they're in huge.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
Trouble joining us. Justin Haskins from the Heartlands Institute, tell me,
give me something in this poll that is not so horrible.
Speaker 2 (07:40):
Sure, okay, So did you get to the questions about socialism?
Speaker 1 (07:44):
We yeah, And that struck me as odd though, given
that they that seventy percent don't think it's a good thing,
or what's the number, thirty two percent hope China wins.
Seventy one percent think free markets better than socialists them.
But yet there's this but that's in there.
Speaker 2 (08:06):
Yeah, yeah, seventy percent say they prefer a free market
system over socialism. I think only eighteen percent eighteen percent
said they had a favorable view of communism. But then
when you get to questions about candidates in twenty twenty
eight election, we asked very specifically, would you like to
(08:27):
see a Democratic socialist candidate win the next presidential election?
Although only thirty one percent overall said yes, which is
a good thing, forty six percent said no, I don't
want that. Among younger people, especially the percentages were much
much higher. Fifty percent of eighteen to twenty nine year
old said they do want a Democratic socialist candidate to
(08:48):
win the next election. Forty percent of those between thirty
to thirty nine, So we're talking about gen Z and
millennials pretty much universally saying they have a really high
favorability of Democratics socialists. In fact, even the thirty to
thirty nine year olds, forty percent said yes, only thirty
eight percent said no, twenty two said not sure. So
(09:09):
there were support for both those groups very, very high.
So in the next election, that's not necessarily a crisis
for the right, but it is a crisis for the
right if you're looking down the road, say ten, ten years,
twenty years, something like that. Now, now that's the primary
voting demographic, those two groups together, and if you assume
(09:31):
that the next young generation also has a favorable view
of it, now you just are completely screwed.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
Final segment here with Justin Haskins of the Heartland Institute,
a poll with Heartland and Rasmussen talking about a couple
of different things, well actually a lot of things, but
really boiled down and distilled Democrats supporting the idea of
imprisoning Elon Musk solely because he's leading Doge. The irony
is just unbelievable on so many levels. There, and then
(10:02):
the idea here is that socialism continues to hold a
place in young people's ideals. And Justin I was asking
you in the break, it seems that the last election
showed young men swinging to the right really supporting Donald Trump.
Can you extrapolate or maybe theorized, does this mean that
(10:24):
the real issue here with the younger voters is with
primarily young women.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
Well, in our particular poll, we don't have enough data
to be able to pull a sample size large enough
to get an answer to that question. But I think overall,
I think there's been a lot of work done on
that that shows clearly that is the case. I mean,
I think that, and I don't think it's surprising. Right,
younger women are being told that they're the ones being oppressed,
(10:51):
They're the ones whose rights are being taken away. There's
all this structural bias against women, and young men are
being to old, especially young white men are being told
that they're the problem. There's toxic masculinity.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah, yeah, but transsexualism is taking all the women's spaces
and attacking women. That's the disconnect I don't get.
Speaker 2 (11:14):
Well. The left has always had a degree of schizophrenia
in it, and no one in the left seems to notice.
But it never made sense to have radical feminism. It
never made sense to have radical feminism in the same
group with the Islamicists. Those two things don't belong together,
and yet they've they haven't had a problem with that
(11:36):
for for decades. This is a this is an ideology.
This tent is it's not even just a big tent,
it's it's a tent that makes no sense at all
when you have had breaking down all yeah, it just
makes no sense. But ultimately, what they all have in
common is a perception that they are oppressed by this
(11:58):
sort of establishment or by some other group of people,
and that they're all banding together to stop the oppressors.
That's what they all have in common, and I think
with younger women, that's the narrative that they've been told
over and over and over again. We're seeing the same
trend play out, by the way, in Europe. When you
look at European elections, there has been a huge movement
(12:19):
on the right amongst younger men and older people are
actually becoming a little bit more likely to vote for
the establishment over there for the left than and younger
men tend to be more likely to go towards the right.
Young women still are supporting the left, And I just
think that it goes into this oppressor sort of mentality.
(12:43):
I don't think that women universally have been convinced that
they are oppressed, younger women to the degree that they
are right now. And it all goes back to education,
to colleges. It all goes back to the media and
Hollywood and everyone giving the same walking in lockstep with
the same messaging. If you do it over and over
and over again, people eventually believe it.
Speaker 1 (13:04):
Justin inside this same polling you you talk about the
tariff war. Here in the polling, and a plurality, it
would appear of Democrat voters thirty two percent actually want
China to win. I take it this is largely more
than likely to simply spike Trump.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
I love this question because it makes absolutely no sense
for anyone to root for a foreign country to beat
their own country in anything. But that's exactly what's going
on with Democrats. What it shows very clearly is that
the left would rather see the Trump administration fail than
see America succeed. And it all goes back to the
(13:48):
same sort of hyperpartisanship that exists. I understand there's a
lot of partisanship on the right as well, sure, but
not to the degree that we see. In this poll.
By the way, thirty eight percent of Democrats, thirty two
percent said they want Trump to win, thirty or sorry.
Thirty two percent of Democrats said they wanted China to win.
Thirty percent said Trump, thirty eight percent said not sure.
(14:11):
So that just goes to show you, I think gives
a lot of people who they know that they should
say Trump, but they're not going to say to Trump.
They can't bring themselves to say China either, so they're
just going to say we're not sure. They just can't
stomach the thought of signing their name to the Trump administration,
even when they know that they should do it.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
Justin you keep being you, brother, Thanks so very much
for all you're doing, and I appreciate your time as always.
Speaker 2 (14:40):
Thank you, sir, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
Thank you. Justin Haskins with us this morning on the
Morning Show
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Does hearing about a true crime case always leave you scouring the internet for the truth behind the story? Dive into your next mystery with Crime Junkie. Every Monday, join your host Ashley Flowers as she unravels all the details of infamous and underreported true crime cases with her best friend Brit Prawat. From cold cases to missing persons and heroes in our community who seek justice, Crime Junkie is your destination for theories and stories you won’t hear anywhere else. Whether you're a seasoned true crime enthusiast or new to the genre, you'll find yourself on the edge of your seat awaiting a new episode every Monday. If you can never get enough true crime... Congratulations, you’ve found your people. Follow to join a community of Crime Junkies! Crime Junkie is presented by audiochuck Media Company.
Ridiculous History
History is beautiful, brutal and, often, ridiculous. Join Ben Bowlin and Noel Brown as they dive into some of the weirdest stories from across the span of human civilization in Ridiculous History, a podcast by iHeartRadio.