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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Morning Share with Preston Scott. Were I to read
his entire resume, it would take way too long. He
is chairman of Gingridge three sixty, former Speaker of the
House of Representatives. He is the architect of the Contract
with America. He's also author of a new book, Trump's
Triumph America's Greatest Comeback. He is new Gingrich. Mister Speaker,
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thank you for joining me this morning. You are not
prone to hyperboles, sir. Greatest Comeback?
Speaker 2 (00:31):
Well, I think we were on the edge of a
total disaster. That between Obama and Biden, we had moved
so far towards gigantic deficits, so far towards radical lifestyle,
so far towards bureaucracies that just don't work that I
think will put in a few more years like that,
we would have been in real trouble. And I think
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the American people under center that that's why, while it's
Trump's triumph, it's actually the American people made the comeback.
And you could tell that because they were for him
against Biden, they were for him against Harris. He carried
all seven of the key states. He got a two
and a half million vote majority, which for Republican is
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very difficult, and as a result, I think it's fair
to say that it was a combined victory for the
American people and for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
When Donald Trump came down the escalator in twenty fifteen,
what were your thoughts.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
I thought he was a very interesting guy. Kliston and
I had had breakfast with him back in February or
fifteen and talked about what presidential campaigns are like, because
I'd run in twelve. But I didn't at that point
think that he was anything like the phenomenon that he's become.
I mean, I knew he had a good business background.
I knew he'd done The Apprentice for thirteen years on NBC,
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but I just didn't realize, you know, when he came
down the escalator. Jeff Bush was clearly the front runner
to be the nominee, raised the most money. He had
both a father and a brother who were president, so
he had name idea at a nationwide organization, and to
watch Trump just take him apart, so that literally by
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the time they got to the Hampshire primary, Jeb had
just faded.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
And then Jeb was a very good.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Reform governor of Florida, so watching that happen, I began
to think, you know, there's something going on here that
we don't understand. But I didn't realize how extraordinary Trump
was going to be until I watched the campaign that
fall and realized he understood where the base of working
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Americans was in a way that no modern Republican had
probably not back since Theodore Roosevelt. And he understood how
to talk to them in a language that made sense
to them.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
And he was prepared to take on the old order.
Speaker 2 (02:55):
And the establishment and the swamp and Washington in ways
that of course, the Times in the Washington Posts were.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Enraged by those of you just tuning in, you know
the voice Knut Gingrich. He's author of a book, Trump's Triumph,
America's Greatest Comeback. Do you think, in retrospect not winning
in twenty twenty though a lot of us have doubts
even about making that statement, is it a blessing in disguise?
Do we have a better version of Trump with that
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four year break?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
Well, you know, ironically, historians will record that liberals having
rigged the election. I think that that's.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
Totally true, and argue that when I was told on election,
But no question.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
That was rigged, may have in fact done themselves an
enormous disaster because he had four years to think about him.
He had four years to get angrier and understand better
how deeply corrupt the system was. He had four years
with the American First Policy Institute, which I worked with
to develop an enormous program of change.
Speaker 3 (03:55):
And the person who came in but I lost say
this at two levels.
Speaker 2 (03:59):
He both had a much deeper and better understanding of
what he was doing. He knew all the world leaders.
He was determined to really change things. But in addition,
I think having almost been killed really changed him, both
when he was shot in Butler and then when they
told him that they had intercepted the potential assassin at
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marl Argo. And I talked to speaker Mike Johnson, who
was there that day, and he said after they briefed
Trump there had now been two attempts to kill him,
that he and Johnson went into a private room and
prayed for two hours. And I think that the Trump
we see today really, and he says this occasionally, it
really does feel that there was a providential moment at
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Butler where if he had turned his head one second later,
he would have been dead now that sort of thing
focuses you. It happened with both the President Reagan and
Pope John Paul the Second. Both of them were shot
by assassins, and when they got together they compared notes
on un why did God spare them? And in their
time they concluded it was to defeat the Soviet Empire.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
I think Trump really came to believe that God.
Speaker 2 (05:11):
Had allowed him to live to make America great again,
and I think that gives him a maturity and a
complexity that people really haven't caught up with yet.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Mister Speaker, time is fleeting, and I appreciate you carving
some out for us this morning, and I wish you
nothing but the best in your book.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Well, thank you. I was really thrilled to be able
to write Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback, and I think
people will find it very, very helpful in understanding where
we are.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Former Speaker of the US House of Representatives and Gingrich,
the book is Trump's Triumph, America's Greatest Comeback. More to
come on the Morning Show with Preston Scott