November 18, 2025 • 10 mins
U.S. Congresswoman Kat Cammack (R-FL3) joined Preston for her second visit of November to give us some insight into what got done and what is coming, once again.
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Speaker 1 (00:07):
And we're joined by US Congresswimman Cat Camick, Florida's third district, Cat, how.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You doing, good morning? Sorry for the delay, any mom
or dad and the kneborn sings. You know. It is unpredictable.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Absolutely, it is what's Thanksgiving shaping up to look like
you know.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Again, having having the baby makes it real easy for us,
Like we bring the plates or a dessert. We are
not doing the turkey, we are not doing the sides.
We are for keeping it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Simple, making making the run of publics, grabbing the pecan
or the pumpkin pie and head nine.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yes, yes, but I will say I will say for
our family Thanksgiving while there is pie. Everyone seems we
tend to gravitate towards like the dumb cake or like
I do a total sheet app app cobbler in the crockpot,
and that to me is the easiest thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
There you go. Crock blocks are a thing of beauty.
Cas gets there. How frustrated should Americans be by what
follows the shutdown ending and the fact that we are
we're going to be looking at this again in January.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I would say frustration absolutely, But also we should be
constantly optimistic and use that to push members to get
the appropriation bills done. So just recap for everybody listening.
You got twelve appropriation bills. You have to pass them
out of the Committee of Jurisdiction as an authorizer, get
(01:42):
them to the appropriators. Appropriators pass them out, We then
vote them on the floor of the House. We're representative,
and we could come to the Senate and then we
conference them. That hasn't been done in thirty years, and
so that's where you get all these crs and the
omnibuses coming from. For the first time, we actually the
House and a Senate. We agreed on three of the
(02:03):
twelve in the reopening of the government, So that is
a sign of hope. Last night, I was in a
meeting with about forty five of my colleagues and they
were saying, listen, we're ready to rock and roll. We're
gonna get all of our appropriations done. The scary part
is the Senate hasn't even taken up a bill or
we're on their side on many of these. So basically
(02:24):
it's going to be the House leading and we the
people have to keep the pressure on the House and
the Senate, but mostly on the Senate, because they're just
going to drag their feet and then they'll stick us
with another omnibus. And I don't want to do that,
and so I think it's important that we stay engaged
on this and be pushing for a full blown appropriation
season to take place by January thirtieth.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
What would happen if the House just dug in its
heels and said to the Senate, just like we didn't
budge on Obamacare getting subsidized any more than it already is,
we're not budget on this. It's time for us to
do a proper set of appropriations. Until you do them,
(03:04):
we're not moving.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think you would see a lot of the same
kind of gnashing of teeth that you saw in the
shutdown of you know, you had senators coming out of
the woodwork being like, well, but what if we did
a three year And I can tell you from my standpoint.
I was texting my Senate colleague saying, I will be
an absolute hard no on anything that involves keeping Obamacare
(03:27):
in place. It is the Unaffordable Care Act, it is
a broken system. Throwing money at it does not fix it.
And in the House we only have two votes to lose.
They can't tinker with our margins, and so they know
like they're basically unnoticed. And this, this, I think is
going to be the key going into not only the appropriations,
but then addressing the broken healthcare system. The House has
(03:50):
to lead on this because the Senate, the Senate just
they don't have the capability to lead in this space.
We're the ones with the tight margins. So I think
I think the message has been sent and.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Received inappropriations help those of us that may not fully
understand the process. And the Senate do they have to
get to sixty.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
They would have to get to sixty in order to
if we have the filibuster in place. And you know,
we've heard that Trump and others have President Trump and
others have said, you know, it's do away with the filibuster.
I am torn on this because it was designed specifically
to avoid rash decisions, but we've also seen where it
(04:31):
can be used to obstruct. And we know full well
that not a matter of if, but when, Because the power,
you know, it swings back and forth all the time. Eventually, Democrats,
some point down the road, many years from now, will
be in charge and they will make Puerto Rico estate,
they will make DC estate, they will pack the Supreme Court,
(04:52):
they will do all the things. And that's why abolishing
the filibuster is very dangerous at times. But we look
at it say, well, hey, we need to get our
election integrity measures through, we need to get our budget
on track, we need to reduce the size and scope
of spending. We've got to fix all these things. And
if we can't get seven Democrats to join with us
(05:14):
in that, then we're going to have to make decisions.
And so that's where that sixty vote threshold versus a
simple majority is kind of the key.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Right now, joining us for one more segment here, busy
member of Congress, busy mom, busy wife, and with us
here on the morning show, Kat Camick, congress woman, tell
(05:44):
me this what can be done to you talked about
the unaffordable Obamacare. What can be done to start to
move the needle in the other direction to get a
handle on healthcare in this country.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh, I don't think we have enough segments to go
through it all. But right, I mean, obviously it has
been proven. We said it back when Obamacare came into existence.
You know, when you hurt from Nancy Pelosi herself. You
have to pass it to see what's in it. They claimed,
you know, if you like your doctor, you can keep them.
It was supposed to drive down costs. We know all
(06:19):
that to be completely false. It was a lie, and
we knew it then. It's been proven today. So this
notion of we're going to send four hundred billion dollars
to insurance companies, No, that's not going to fix the problem,
especially when people are finding that there's less access, less
opportunities to get with a specialist or a doctor, and
(06:42):
nine times out of ten you've got insurance companies making
medical decisions for you, basically going around your doctor saying, sorry, doc,
we're not going to do that. We're going to recommend this,
and we're only going to pay for that. And that's
just wrong. So we need to get back to a
place of a mindset that is preventative not maintenance. First
(07:03):
and foremost, we need to acknowledge that the system in
place is a sick care system, not a healthcare system.
We need to put the decision making capability back in
the hands of doctors and patients, not insurance companies. I
would love to see us get rid of the in
network versus out of network. I think we should expand HSAS,
increased choice, get the price transparency back into it, because
(07:29):
if people are actually seeing what everything is costing, then
it puts these companies on notice, like, oh, maybe you
can't charge one hundred and forty five dollars for an aspirin.
You know. It's things like that. I think competition is
the way to go. There's a number of things that
we're working on right now. In fact, we're working with
the White House on an expansion of HSAS that anyone
(07:54):
who needs that that help to cover a plan would
go directly to the consumer rather than to the insurance companies.
And that's something that we're looking at, and some cost
reduction savings element. There's so much we could do, but
it's clear that the system is broken. We have to
address maternal health deserts. Under Biden, thirty eight percent increase
(08:17):
of maternal health deserts across America, meaning women have to
drive hours and hours and hours to see an ob
or a gynecologist. I mean, heck, in our area, if
you're in Valdosta or Lake City, you got to drive
to Gainesville to find an ob that can deliver your baby,
it's just stuff like that. It's common sense and putting
(08:40):
people back in the driver's seat and taking the beer
crafts out of it. That's what we're aiming for. And
there's going to be a lot of proposals here in
the next few weeks and months, and we're excited to
be a part of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Kat does tort reform fall into this, Is that a
federal issue or is tort reform need to be left
to states?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You know, everyone has always talked about tort reform as
part of it, and it is incredibly important, right, but
we have found that typically when the states are leaving
the charge on tor reform, and in Florida we've done
that a few years ago, we need to make another
round at it because it affects all of the insurance elements,
absolutely the home insurance to the car insurance, and in
(09:18):
Florida we have been clamoring for relief. And I can
tell you I have talked to my state representatives and said,
you guys got to do something. This is out of control.
That is something that typically I think is best left
at the states because that also will help foster competition
and driving costs lower across the country. But there's elements though,
certainly regulatory reform. You and I have talked about that.
(09:41):
That's my passion is really taking on the red tape
and the regulatory bureaucrats that are driving costs up everywhere.
That's a huge part of it, for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Kat, thanks for the time. I appreciate you letting us
break into mom duty and congresswoman duty and husband and
wife duty and all that. But hey, have a great
Thanksgiving and don't get bullied into anything beyond the dessert.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I appreciate it. You have a good one and Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving to you too,
And we're joined by US Congresswimman Cat Camick, Florida's third district, Cat, how.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
You doing, good morning? Sorry for the delay, any mom
or dad and the kneborn sings. You know. It is unpredictable.
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Absolutely, it is what's Thanksgiving shaping up to look like
you know.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Again, having having the baby makes it real easy for us,
Like we bring the plates or a dessert. We are
not doing the turkey, we are not doing the sides.
We are for keeping it.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Simple, making making the run of publics, grabbing the pecan
or the pumpkin pie and head nine.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Yes, yes, but I will say I will say for
our family Thanksgiving while there is pie. Everyone seems we
tend to gravitate towards like the dumb cake or like
I do a total sheet app app cobbler in the crockpot,
and that to me is the easiest thing in the world.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
There you go. Crock blocks are a thing of beauty.
Cas gets there. How frustrated should Americans be by what
follows the shutdown ending and the fact that we are
we're going to be looking at this again in January.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
I would say frustration absolutely, But also we should be
constantly optimistic and use that to push members to get
the appropriation bills done. So just recap for everybody listening.
You got twelve appropriation bills. You have to pass them
out of the Committee of Jurisdiction as an authorizer, get
(01:42):
them to the appropriators. Appropriators pass them out, We then
vote them on the floor of the House. We're representative,
and we could come to the Senate and then we
conference them. That hasn't been done in thirty years, and
so that's where you get all these crs and the
omnibuses coming from. For the first time, we actually the
House and a Senate. We agreed on three of the
(02:03):
twelve in the reopening of the government, So that is
a sign of hope. Last night, I was in a
meeting with about forty five of my colleagues and they
were saying, listen, we're ready to rock and roll. We're
gonna get all of our appropriations done. The scary part
is the Senate hasn't even taken up a bill or
we're on their side on many of these. So basically
(02:24):
it's going to be the House leading and we the
people have to keep the pressure on the House and
the Senate, but mostly on the Senate, because they're just
going to drag their feet and then they'll stick us
with another omnibus. And I don't want to do that,
and so I think it's important that we stay engaged
on this and be pushing for a full blown appropriation
season to take place by January thirtieth.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
What would happen if the House just dug in its
heels and said to the Senate, just like we didn't
budge on Obamacare getting subsidized any more than it already is,
we're not budget on this. It's time for us to
do a proper set of appropriations. Until you do them,
(03:04):
we're not moving.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
I think you would see a lot of the same
kind of gnashing of teeth that you saw in the
shutdown of you know, you had senators coming out of
the woodwork being like, well, but what if we did
a three year And I can tell you from my standpoint.
I was texting my Senate colleague saying, I will be
an absolute hard no on anything that involves keeping Obamacare
(03:27):
in place. It is the Unaffordable Care Act, it is
a broken system. Throwing money at it does not fix it.
And in the House we only have two votes to lose.
They can't tinker with our margins, and so they know
like they're basically unnoticed. And this, this, I think is
going to be the key going into not only the appropriations,
but then addressing the broken healthcare system. The House has
(03:50):
to lead on this because the Senate, the Senate just
they don't have the capability to lead in this space.
We're the ones with the tight margins. So I think
I think the message has been sent and.
Speaker 1 (04:01):
Received inappropriations help those of us that may not fully
understand the process. And the Senate do they have to
get to sixty.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
They would have to get to sixty in order to
if we have the filibuster in place. And you know,
we've heard that Trump and others have President Trump and
others have said, you know, it's do away with the filibuster.
I am torn on this because it was designed specifically
to avoid rash decisions, but we've also seen where it
(04:31):
can be used to obstruct. And we know full well
that not a matter of if, but when, Because the power,
you know, it swings back and forth all the time. Eventually, Democrats,
some point down the road, many years from now, will
be in charge and they will make Puerto Rico estate,
they will make DC estate, they will pack the Supreme Court,
(04:52):
they will do all the things. And that's why abolishing
the filibuster is very dangerous at times. But we look
at it say, well, hey, we need to get our
election integrity measures through, we need to get our budget
on track, we need to reduce the size and scope
of spending. We've got to fix all these things. And
if we can't get seven Democrats to join with us
(05:14):
in that, then we're going to have to make decisions.
And so that's where that sixty vote threshold versus a
simple majority is kind of the key.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Right now, joining us for one more segment here, busy
member of Congress, busy mom, busy wife, and with us
here on the morning show, Kat Camick, congress woman, tell
(05:44):
me this what can be done to you talked about
the unaffordable Obamacare. What can be done to start to
move the needle in the other direction to get a
handle on healthcare in this country.
Speaker 2 (05:59):
Oh, I don't think we have enough segments to go
through it all. But right, I mean, obviously it has
been proven. We said it back when Obamacare came into existence.
You know, when you hurt from Nancy Pelosi herself. You
have to pass it to see what's in it. They claimed,
you know, if you like your doctor, you can keep them.
It was supposed to drive down costs. We know all
(06:19):
that to be completely false. It was a lie, and
we knew it then. It's been proven today. So this
notion of we're going to send four hundred billion dollars
to insurance companies, No, that's not going to fix the problem,
especially when people are finding that there's less access, less
opportunities to get with a specialist or a doctor, and
(06:42):
nine times out of ten you've got insurance companies making
medical decisions for you, basically going around your doctor saying, sorry, doc,
we're not going to do that. We're going to recommend this,
and we're only going to pay for that. And that's
just wrong. So we need to get back to a
place of a mindset that is preventative not maintenance. First
(07:03):
and foremost, we need to acknowledge that the system in
place is a sick care system, not a healthcare system.
We need to put the decision making capability back in
the hands of doctors and patients, not insurance companies. I
would love to see us get rid of the in
network versus out of network. I think we should expand HSAS,
increased choice, get the price transparency back into it, because
(07:29):
if people are actually seeing what everything is costing, then
it puts these companies on notice, like, oh, maybe you
can't charge one hundred and forty five dollars for an aspirin.
You know. It's things like that. I think competition is
the way to go. There's a number of things that
we're working on right now. In fact, we're working with
the White House on an expansion of HSAS that anyone
(07:54):
who needs that that help to cover a plan would
go directly to the consumer rather than to the insurance companies.
And that's something that we're looking at, and some cost
reduction savings element. There's so much we could do, but
it's clear that the system is broken. We have to
address maternal health deserts. Under Biden, thirty eight percent increase
(08:17):
of maternal health deserts across America, meaning women have to
drive hours and hours and hours to see an ob
or a gynecologist. I mean, heck, in our area, if
you're in Valdosta or Lake City, you got to drive
to Gainesville to find an ob that can deliver your baby,
it's just stuff like that. It's common sense and putting
(08:40):
people back in the driver's seat and taking the beer
crafts out of it. That's what we're aiming for. And
there's going to be a lot of proposals here in
the next few weeks and months, and we're excited to
be a part of that conversation.
Speaker 1 (08:50):
Kat does tort reform fall into this, Is that a
federal issue or is tort reform need to be left
to states?
Speaker 2 (08:57):
You know, everyone has always talked about tort reform as
part of it, and it is incredibly important, right, but
we have found that typically when the states are leaving
the charge on tor reform, and in Florida we've done
that a few years ago, we need to make another
round at it because it affects all of the insurance elements,
absolutely the home insurance to the car insurance, and in
(09:18):
Florida we have been clamoring for relief. And I can
tell you I have talked to my state representatives and said,
you guys got to do something. This is out of control.
That is something that typically I think is best left
at the states because that also will help foster competition
and driving costs lower across the country. But there's elements though,
certainly regulatory reform. You and I have talked about that.
(09:41):
That's my passion is really taking on the red tape
and the regulatory bureaucrats that are driving costs up everywhere.
That's a huge part of it, for sure.
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Kat, thanks for the time. I appreciate you letting us
break into mom duty and congresswoman duty and husband and
wife duty and all that. But hey, have a great
Thanksgiving and don't get bullied into anything beyond the dessert.
Speaker 2 (10:05):
I appreciate it. You have a good one and Thanksgiving.
Happy Thanksgiving to you too,
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