The Southern Border ... How Bad Is It?

Jesus Rodrigueza former US Border Patrol Agent , shared his insight plus feedback from former colleagues about what is really going on at our southern border.

Episode Transcript

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And we now moved to the thirdhour of the morning show with Preston Scott.
I'm Preston. That is Grant Allen. Great to be working with you
today and thrilled to have with uson the program. He's our first guest
post lightning strike on the phone lines. Jesus Ride Reguez better than two decades

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serving the United States as a UnitedStates Border Patrol Agent, now retired.
Jesus, thank you as always forserving our country. How are you,
brother? Good morning is very good? Yourself? Who first guest after the
lightning strike? Come on and lookat you beating the birds up once again
in Arizona. Yep, it's agreat morning. Out of here, great

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data. I'm walking on the grass. That's a good that's a good thing.
I was gonna say, you soundlike you're outside, man, Yeah,
I am. I'm outside whether it'sprobably sixty six and it's nice and
cool. Get get going the dayalready. Let me guess you're you're outside
patrolling the neighborhood for illegals entering youryour space. No, actually not,

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believe it or not. They're allheaded out of here. They're all going
to those big cities. You know, they're going back east and wherever else
the need to go to. Sono, they're just passing through here,
leaving and take getting their cell phonesand moving on. I didn't get a
chance to ask you the last timewe talked, how different are things in

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Arizona now that Katie Hobbs is thegovernor. Well, you know what,
what I understand is that when shecame into office, she directed, uh,
I'm not sure which office to startthem in all of those those uh
contic boxes that Governor Douce he hadput up right and so uh and so

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they started to remove them in Andso I mean, traffic is traffic right
before titled forty two was just wildand crazy. Aught of people from Mauritania,
Egypt, a lot of Sikhs,a lot of Indians from the country
of India. I mean, justa variety of everything. I mean it

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was there. There were a coupleof ages to saying Nigos. When did
you when did we ever apprehend peoplefrom you know, the continent, from
different continents, like I said,never and so that and tons of Chinese
nationals too. So I mean itjust opened up the floodgates, it really
did. And so that's what theywere dealing with on a daily basis,
and some stations were just I mean, it was ridiculous. And then they

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were just basically they were basically justa shuttle service, if you will.
And that was because of the endingof Title forty two. Right before titled
forty two, there was just ahumongous wave of people. I mean it
was I would, you know,I would look at some of the pictures
of guys that sent me like geez, Louise, it's just crazy. But
you know what, President, here'swhat what what um what I what I

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saw is that people talk about peoplecoming in illegally, but you should see
the environmental damage that's that they're leavingbehind, not only on our side,
but on the Mexican side. Imean tons and tons of trash, clothes,
luggage, I mean, you nameit, it's out there. I
mean, and we're talking like inthe Apua area there by Lukeville Port of

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Entry. There is a ton ofgarbage out there that I mean, it's
an environmental disaster. I mean,you know, it's they just left to
behind. It was just dump itthere and walk away. Before I well,
let me follow up first, Sowhat are what are residents of the
State of Arizona. Thinking about GovernorHobbs's decision to remove barriers and make it

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easier for illegals to enter the Stateof Arizona. Well, as you can
imagine, most people are not happywith it. Of course, you have,
you know, you have the otherthe other side that doesn't say much
about it at all, and they'rejust kind of keeping quiet about the evil
planning under the radar. But youknow, there's a large, you know,
group of people they're just not happywith it. But you know,

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and that's that's one of the issuesout here. So I mean, you
have to kind of pick your pickwhat what issue you want to see with,
but that's that's one of them outhere as well. The Morning Show
with Preston Scott on News Radio onehundred point seven WUFLA thove minutes after the

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hour, Jus Rodriguez, United StatesBorder Patrol Agent, retired our guests here
this morning on the radio program.He's just I'm just curi As you mentioned
that your former colleagues are talking aboutthe influx of people entering this country illegally

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not going through the immigration process,which is you know, I understand tired
and laborers and filled with difficult challenges, but other countries that normally aren't seen
in numbers, What does what doesthat inform you about the relative awareness of
our national policies or lack thereof,and how people around the world are following

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what's going on. I mean intalking in previous you know years when you
would get these large influx of peoplefrom these different countries, it's because they
would get you know, they wouldbe apprehended by the word choyagens out in
the field. And then once theygot to those detention camps and again we're

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talking number of years ago, youknow that they were cut loose. The
words read fast and I mean itwent fast before you knew you were dealing
with multiple you know, groups ofthose of those people from those sending countries.
And you know I saw with peoplefrom Brazil, uh, you know,
from different different countries like that thatyou would just get you know a

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number of them like that Polish nationalsbelieve it or not, you know pastal
So I mean, once you youknow, they got cut loose, it
just opened up the floodgates. Butwhat what shut the floodgates down is once
they started to shipp them back totheir sending country. That would end it.
In this case, they're not sendingthem back. They're coming in and
they're staying. I'm so words breadfast. Social media it plays a big,

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big role that cartels. I meanwhat explained to me is that when
some of these groups would come upto the border and they would get taken
off the bus and they were givingdifferent um like different color braces that you
will, and they would be directedfor certain certain groups and that that group

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would take or that car stuff memberor that smuggler would take that group to
a certain spot along the border,and that's what they would cross. So
it's it's an assembly line. Theyknow exactly what they're doing and how to
do it. I was just curiousabout that, Zeus even I mean maybe
naively. I'm thinking immigrants from CentralSouth America certainly Mexico. No, the

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cartels kind of hold sway here.But those immigrants from India and China and
these other countries they have. Arethe cartels controlling all of the trafficking,
trafficking of illegal immigrants into this country? Oh yeah, I would say so
present, because you have to goI mean, how else are they gonna

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traverse from let's they coming into Mexicoand get up to the southern border.
I mean there's there's there's always someoneyou know, wanting to make a buck.
And and you know, like Isaid, ward spreads fast. I
mean we see it in the pastwhere you know, you get a group
of illegal aliens out there and youknow, or or they would leave somebody
behind and it was a group thatthat had, you know, made contact

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with a smuggler, and that smugglerput him in contact with somebody else,
and so that's how it went.I mean, even it's it's everybody takes
a cut of the money along theway, because it's it's a very organized
um group. And so it startsfrom wherever the sending country is, all
the way to where wherever route theytake, all the way up to the

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southern border, all the way acrossthe other border, and all the way
into wherever they're you know, intothe United States, wherever they're headed to.
So even if even if we're dealingwith people that are trying to come
into the country the right way orhave justifiable reasons for trying to get into
America, the cartels have their fingertheir hands in all of it. I

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would say, they would. Imean, you're dealing with the immigrant,
that illegal immigration issue, but Preston, don't forget that. There's also the
drug issue, right, the arcoticsmuggling that takes place too. And like
I've you know, like I've mentionedthe past. You know, people seem

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to forget that. Yeah, you'redealing with wholes of people out there,
okay, but what's coming in onthe flanks. You think it's people that
really you know, that you reallywant in this country. No, it's
people that have either been released fromfrom a prison system in the country somewhere,
or the smuggling the narcotics in there. And we're not talking you're marijuana.
We're not talking your green leafy stuffstance. We're talking your hard stuff.

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Almost twenty two minutes after the hour. Asus Rodriguez joins us once a month
from Arizona, which means he's takenone for the team getting up this early,

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because you know, darn good andwell, if he's getting up at
five am Arizona, time to dothis segment. He had to get up
earlier just to be coherent, andnow in the break he's talking about things
we've talked about on the show.So my goodness, gracious what a soldier
formerly a United States Border Patrol agentand our guests here this morning. I'm

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curious a zeus when Texas decides,Okay, the federal government's failing in its
job, we're gonna do this ourselves. We're gonna send our own tactical border
force to the border to assist.What is the reaction of your colleagues likely
to be when a state says they'vegot to do something to help those of

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you serving the federal government. It'sreally helpful because in the past years we
get these National Guard flights that wouldcome through. I've worked a lot of
midnights and evening shows out in thedesert, so it was nice when you'd
have air support come in in theevening and it was National Guard guys and
they would you know, they wouldfly those missions to help us out,

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and it was real helpful because,I mean, they they were additional eyes
for us and help us and addicta lot of groups out there and a
lot of narcotics, So it's youknow, it's real helpful, like a
U you know, when you haveextra people that are out there helping you,
it did. It makes a bigdifference because now you've got additionalized that

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are helping you spot what you're missingor what you're trying to track down,
and it helps, and you know, it's a big help. How does
it work though? From a logisticstandpoint, when you've got you know,
you have your federal job that you'redoing on behalf of the United States,
you're under a certain set of orders, and then you've got the state.

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And while there might be some overlapkind of like a ven diagram, their
bottom line is protecting the state.Do those things that no, No,
because mainly they were used for forintel gathering purposes or eyes on on on
on the border area. So theywould call out the groups or you know,

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and like I mentioned, with theair support, they would they would
um lead you into wherever the narcoticsis at or where the group was at.
And so you know, rarely didanything ever, we'd ever have any
kind of issues with them, umyou know. And then on top of
that, with the with the airsupport, we always had an agent that
was with that crew flight crew.So you know, the the agent was

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well aware of of what you know, the area, very verse in the
area, so they're kind of guidingthem and and so they're you know,
they'd directed the pilots and where togo and and uh and those kinds of
things. So it no, wenever had any issues. Like I said,
it was real helpful. And evenwhen they would come into assist us
with you know, even just aadministrative things like you know, uh,

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fixing the vehicles, that was abig help too. Because you know,
out in the denser, you canwear and tearing the vehicles is huge.
So when you when you have extrahands in there that are fixing the vehicles
and getting them out faster, that'sa big that's a big plus. Two.
Did you hear any reaction when fromfrom your former colleagues about the fifteen
hundred troops that Biden sent, hesent you know, National guardsmen down there.

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Uh. You know, some retiredBorder Patrol agents are out saying look
what they were doing was acting asa welcome wagon. We saw a video
of one of them from Illinois.I think it was actually unlocking a gate
and allowing illegals to enter the countrythrough a gate. Well, I mean,
look at the look at the distancefrom San Diego all the way across

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to Texas. Now it's a longborder, fifteen hundred. You know,
soldiers isn't going to do much ofanything, and a lot of times are
probably going to be assigned to administrativeduties, you know, maybe manning the
radio, things of that nature.So they're not really they're not really intimately
involved in what's happened on the onthe border itself. And so no,

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most of the most of the soldierslike that, I know that we're already
out here, and so they werehelping out with working cameras and and calling
out the groups to the agents.But again, uh, you know a
lot of these groups were just theywere coming across and they were they were
quitters. They were just walking upto the to the ages and just you

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know, sitting down and waiting tobe processed and shipped out. Last question
for you. We got about alittle less than a minute left here,
jeseus um. Now that you know, title forty two is over. We
didn't see the crush immediately. Dowe expect to see an increase over the
coming weeks and months? The crushalready came through and went, uh,

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you know what, present, Ithink it's going it's going to continue,
I honestly do. I don't thinkit's going to slow down any time soon.
It may not be in the numbersthat were in the in the past,
but you're going to keep seeing thatbecause again the words has spread spread
these countries. You know, comein and they'll process you and they'll kick
you out the door, and youknow on your way you go and they're
not going to be seen again.More than likely, no, you'll never

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see him again. Welcome to theUnited States. Zeus has always thanks so
much for making time for us onthe program and appreciate your service to our
country. Brother be well, Thankyou, sir. Take care all right.
J Zeus Rodriguez with us this morningon the Morning Show with Preston Scott