November 14, 2025 • 25 mins
Drake Anderson, now owner of Sentinel Fencing, served for five years (plus a couple of games) as the iconic Osceola riding on the back of Renegade at Florida State football games. He handed the spear to Bobby Bowden prior to Coach's final game. He rode in the Rose Bowl during the 2013 National Championship game. A great visit.
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
Second hour.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Friday Edition Morning Show with Preustin Scott, November fourteenth, Hello Show,
fifty four ninety five.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
That sosay, I'm Preston.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Remember Orphanshade dot com raising funds to build a home
for young girls who are orphans in Malawi. We're looking
to build our second home with them and their sixth
home overall. So it's Orphanshade dot Com. I have had
this on the calendar for a little bit. Now joining
(00:34):
me in studio is a friend. He's a client, but
first a friend. Drake Anderson is with me, and Drake
is along with his family, owner of Sentinel Fencing.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We'll talk about that later. How you doing. I am wonderful, sir.
How are you this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm doing good. Let's set this stage up a little bit.
Let's set the story and go back to your day.
We were just talking about how in the world did
you get to become, for lack of a.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Better way of putting it, a horseman.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think that it was just something that God put
in me from the beginning because my family history, they
grew up you know, hunting, fishing, all that kind of stuff.
But my grandfather had a forty acre small cattle farm,
but never had any horses. I didn't grow up with horses.
I just came out of the womb wanting to be
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a cowboy diapers and cowboy boots from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Do you remember, like when your love of horses even started.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Was it a picture, was it a movie?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Was it just I don't remember a time when I
did not want to be a cowboy. That's how far
back it goes.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, all right, So when does the relationship with horses begin.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I had the opportunity at right at ten years old.
He had moved to a horse farm in central Alabama,
and the guy that owned the property was a cutting
horse trainer. It's a type of event that you do
with in western horseback riding. And I had the opportunity
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to start. And he was a rough and tumble, old
gruff cowboy, and I had to earn my spurs. I
cleaned stalls for about six months, scooping, scooping all the
stuff to earn the right to ride. So I started
at the bottom and started to work my way up
to be able to just get on a horse there.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And you didn't care what you were asked to do.
The end goal was getting on that horse.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
That's right, That's all I wanted to do. I was
homeschooled at that time. I was actually homeschool until I
started high school, and so I would I would wake
up at six o'clock every day and I would do
my book work and be done by noon, and I
would be sitting at his barn waiting on him to
come back from lunch so that I could start whatever
he wanted me to do, so that I could eventually
get on a horse.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Do you remember the first time you got on a horse.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, I remember the first time that I got to
ride a cutting horse and I actually trained. It was
at that time, you know, fifty thousand dollars finished horse,
and I got the opportunity to ride him. That was
probably the nicest horse that I had sat on, probably
the top two nicest horse that I've ever sat on,
two or three at least, and I remember that vividly.
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But first time, No, it was probably when I was
very very young, k pony at camp, some kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Tell me about smoky Smoky.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So I learned from a very young age saving money
my parents. I SI had a bank account, and I
worked and I earned money. By the time I was
ten years old, coinciding just after I had met the guy,
the cutting horse trainer. I bought my first horse ten
years old, my own money. My dad made me negotiate
the deal. I went and met with him. I shook
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his hand and told him I could offer him a
thousand dollars and he took it, had a bill, a
safe rode it out, did the whole deal. Okay, brought
Smoky home.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
How big was Smoky? What do he look like?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Smokey was a smoky black color, black, kind of a
black bass coat, kind of faded out in the summer.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
A little charcoal, that's right, okay, little charcoal.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I rode him for about six months and ended up
flipping him for I think it was forty three hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Why why were you able to do? Was he just
developed skills or were you that good at selling?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Man?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think that was just a very fortunate deal, Okay.
I think that he had some ability that was untapped.
We fed him a little bit better than probably where
he was, got him looking really nice and pretty, and
found the right buyer and it just happened that way.
That was my first horse trade deal. Over doubled money,
well substantially.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
More than doubled. Was that the start. That was the start.
I was bitten at that point.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, okay, And we gave you a little hint there
living past the hour, Drake Anderson with me and we're
talking about the career path and we'll bring you to
current day in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But so you get to high school.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
What was going on in high school that would land
you on the radar of Florida State University.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So after a year or so of tutelage under the
cutting horse trainer, I found another born locally. We had
moved from that property and I found another born locally.
I was eighth grade going into high school when I
met Terry Dinard and he became like a mentor to me,
and that is where I really learned the majority of
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my horse training. I started riding with him and he
did team roping, and so he fixed and trained horses
for team roping.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
This event I.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Started with him, started riding, started roping, became very successful
locally there.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I did not compete in the High School Rodeo Association.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I was kind of like a junior pro doing local
jackpots and other USCRC events that are team roping events.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
The Durham family.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They contacted Terry looking for someone to come in, so
they knew him. They knew of him of him. He
was at an announcer for the high school Rodeo Association,
so they contacted him looking for a replacement, and he
of course brought me to mind. So that's how the
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connection was made.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
If you don't know the Durham family, Bill Durham is
credited with being the founder of the tradition we now
know as Ostiola and Renegade. The family raises these horses,
acquires these horses, and they are responsible for I guess
the recruitment of the whoever would be Ostiola. Now at
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the time, did you even know of the Florida state tradition.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I had heard of Bobby Bowden before, that's about the extent, But.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You didn't know anything about Oh, they use a horse
and a rider, not at all.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I had.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So my skill set became team roping and I was
training horses. I was making eight hundred dollars a month
with three to four horses at a time throughout high
school and so I actually ended up having a heated
discussion with my father about why I did not want
to go to college because I was making a lot
of money training horses and if I could do it
full time, I can make even more. So I ended
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up getting a scholarship offer from Mississippi State and from
Troy University for rodeo. So they have rodeo collegiate teams
there and I got a scholarship offer from them. I
was a week away from signing with Troy State when
I was contacted by the Durham family and I had
never heard of FSU or heard of the tradition, and
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had only ever heard of Bowden and FSU.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That was it. Why did it win? Why did you
decide to come? And oh, by the way, become at
the I'm the longest tenured Osceola writing at Florida State
football games bowl games for five years.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So initially he showed me a video, showed me what
it was about, and I was like, man, that's really cool.
What changed for me and what made me realize that
this is really what I want to do is when
I had to read a book, and I had to
read a book about the life of Osceola, the life
of the Seminal tribe and the Seminal Wars, and write
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a report about what it would mean to me to
represent that individual, And in reading that and learning about
the history of the of the program and the history
of who they are representing, that's that's what sold me
on it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Looking back, Are you surprised you did it? Surprised as
in that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You took that path after going through that, because I mean,
there's that's some hoop jumping. Oh yeah, reading the book,
writing a report to get a chance to do this
where you got standing offers a two universities.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, are you surprised you did it?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm surprised that. No, I don't think so. That's where
I needed to be. That's where the path that God
laid in front of me, and I think that that's
that's where I needed to be. So no, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What would people be the most surprised to know about
being Osceola and writing in front of seventy plus thousand
fans on a horse like that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I like the anonymity there's when I'm out there, You're
we're portraying a fierce warrior with all the regelia and
the wig and the makeup, and no one really knows.
It's kind of flying under the radar. I never was
braggadocious or really said anything. I've only ever had one
person recognize me out of out of character that I
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did not know already. Sure so that I enjoyed being
able to do that as a gift to the university
and to the tribe and not have the spotlight on me.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Do you recognize what it means to people now? I
do after the fact, I mean, looking.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
At it now, does it change how you view whoever
is Ostiola riding Renegade?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Absolutely? I know the troubles that they're going through. I know,
I know the woes and the issues that they have sometimes. Man,
I tell you, it is hot the first part of
the season.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It is very od.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
What you may not know about Drake and I'm if
you observe Ostiola from the stands, you're probably thinking, you know,
a rather diminutive young man riding the back of a horse.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
This is not a small young man.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Drake is a very big guy and riding that horse
at six five six six and I'm guessing about two
forty that's right. Yeah, I'm thinking when you get on
the back of a horse, it goes.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah. They have.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Back with more with Drake Anderson here on the morning
show with President Scott back with Drake Anderson Osciola for
five seasons and some change.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's right. You got called back into duty when someone
got hurt. I did so.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
My Typically it's a four year gig. You intern two years,
you ride for two years. I got brought in as
a freshman and I rode starting. That's actually a fun story.
I was not actually supposed to ride the first game
because in two thousand and nine, the season that I started,
our first game was Labor Day Monday against Miami. I
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had never seen a college football game before, so I trained,
I graduated high school, started riding three weeks later. Our
first game is Monday night starting that season, and I
had never been on the field at Dope Campbell on Renegade,
and I had never seen a call this football game
in person. So he's like, all right, I'm going to
bring back our rider from the last year to ride
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this first game. Second game is Jacksonville State. That's a
perfect game for you to start with. The previous rider
came back the week of the game, got the flu.
Oh no, So by Friday, Alan.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Said, you're up, buddy, Alan Durham. Alan Durham, he was
my boss there. Yeah, I ran the program.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So I had to call parents and call everybody, and
I was like, Hey, I'm actually riding Monday, so let's
find some tickets and y'all get down here to Tallahassee.
So that was my first collegiate football game that I
ever saw in person, was on the back of Renegade
against Miami.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
How much practice is required to get that down to
where because it's an art. It's an art to ride
that horse to the middle of the field, get it
to rear up so that you can plant the spear
as it comes down. Oh yeah, how much practice had
you had before that first game?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Doing that? The entire summer five six days a week,
you were planting spears.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Not only that, but riding with the horse and getting
acclimated to the program, figuring out the routine, and just
practicing to get ready for it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
How do they prepare for the crowd? There is no
preparation for it. Yeah you can't. You can't simulate that, no, sir.
But they do prepare the horses by sort of they
bring one in while the others getting close to maybe retirement.
That's right, acclimating a backup horse as needed to the
crowd noise, right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
They've typically got a backup renegade and a and a
backup Ostiola. They're at the games at all times. So
that's kind of the general rule of thumb, and that
that that backup horse rider is learning and growing to
take over the position when their time comes.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So you were Ostiola at the end of Bobby Bowden's career.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I was.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And you have a fascinating story about how your life
and ancestry intersects with coach Bowton.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So my grandfather played football at Samford. Bobby played football
at Yes, he did. So when I came down in
two thousand and nine, the first chance that I got
to meet Bobby in person, I introduced myself and I
asked him, do you remember Charles Anderson from your Sanford.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
High school days?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And he kind of scratched his head and he slapped
me on the shoulder and he said, you mean Slim
and that was my grandfather's nickname. I said, yes, sir,
that was my grandfather. He played football there. He said, well, heck, can.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I remember him? He bumped me out of my starting
position at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
So my grandfather bumped Bobby out of his starting position.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
At quarterback at Sanford University of University. That's hilarious. And yeah,
that was the first time I met Bobby.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
All right before we go to break the top three
memories as Osceola on the back.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Of Renegade in no particular order.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The Oklahoma game, which one that would have in twenty twelve,
I believe leading up to our national championship.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Both top five yep, both top five.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
The loudest that I've ever heard dok Campbell in person
ever when Bobby Bowden retired in Jacksonville at the bowl
game I think that was the Champs Bowl in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Why does that stand out? West Virginia And a cool
story about the mascot they are in some interactions we had.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Okay, and then but you handed the spirit to coach
Bowden because I remember he planted the spirit at that game.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
We hand the spear off to certain people for certain events,
and his retirement.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Of course met the bar for that.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Absolutely handed the spear off to him and he planted
there and number three National championship twenty thirteen. You were
there on the horse loud and proud Rose Bowl. Yes, sir,
did you ride in the parade.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I was not in the parade. No, they didn't want
to do that, did they know?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
With that environment and with it being so far out
of our home tier to kind of deal was it
was too much to coordinate and too many variables. So
we just wrote at the game, which was a very
fun and very complicated event.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
The Rose Bowl is a special place, a special, great
set of memories, absolutely too much to talk about. So
I asked Drake Anderson to stick around. He, of course
Osceola and part of that incredible college football tradition. It
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is one of it is one of the most unique
college football traditions out there. But you were there for
the national title game you leave Florida State University. You
and I first met because I got a mail an
email from I don't know if it was a Bureau
of Land Management or something affiliated with a wild Mustang makeover.
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How'd you get roped into that?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So? I, uh.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
When I graduated college and my wife and I we
bought our place in mont Solo, I was on the
side trying to kind of hustle and get back to
training horses, which is what I love to do, and
to do that. I had had a friend that competed
in the Extreme Messtang makeover before, and I decided that
I wanted to try that as well, so I signed
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up and got selected. Okay, it's a whole process to
go through that. You have to have the facility to
hold the mustang because it's a wild horse. Up until
the point that it gets to your property, it's probably
only been touched by force one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
They've been roped or or.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Uh or shot with a with a trank gun. Yeah, sorry, tranked,
And so you have to get selected. And I finally
was selected for it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And uh, that's where you and I met.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You came on this show, you came in this studio
and we talked about that experience.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
What was that like? That was a blast.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
It was the first time that I've ever trained a
horse from the ground up that no one else has
ever interacted with.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And was that the challenge of it for you that
you wanted to take on? Yeah, I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I wanted to see what it would be like to
take a wild horse, because even a horse that's untrained,
that is that is tame, is way different. Mustangs have
lived their life scrounging out of living on the land,
and they have an innate distrust for humans and you've
got to overcome.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That from a horse perspective. Is that the most rewarding
experience you've had.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
One of them? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I would say that's definitely one of them. To take
that horse and to mold her into something. I actually
ended up buying her back from the program after it
was done, and then I gifted her to my my
my brother in law he'd fallen in love with. Her
name was honisi Oski, which means wild rain in the
Seminal language. And when we went to pick her up,
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we almost got blown off the road by a tornado,
and so I just felt it was fate to call
her wild Rain.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
So yeah, and the horse and your brother in law
are coexisting wonderfully.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Happy as could be. She's fat as a butter ball
here in Tallahassee. Just doing kids lessons. Actually, you're kidding me.
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
So you are you still doing any horse training? Not
so much training.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
My wife and I we've got property out in Montslo
We've got horses, cows. I think I've got twenty five
head of cows and we've got seven seven horses. I
think so do a little bit of a little bit
of cowboy riding. I've got a couple of friends that
have large ranches and try to try to get on
horseback as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
But with a new business, it's yeah, oftentimes not as easy. Well,
and not just a new business and a child there
we go.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That changes everything everything, And we're not talking about a horse,
by the way, later and gentleman, which to a horseman
you could consider a new horse child, you could do that,
but that's not what we're talking about. More to come,
Drake Anderson with me for one more segment here on
the Morning Show with Drake Anderson, and we're sharing a
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little bit of our long and complicated history together here
on the on the program. So you moved to Monticello,
you're married, you've got a family starting here, and you've
got some cattle, a few horses. But then you recently
opened up a business. I did tell us a little
bit about that. What got you into fencing?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I wanted to get off roofs. That's where it actually started.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I why not, I'd rather not climb on a roof
every day I did. I did sales and estimating for
local contractors and roofing for years, started in the fence industry,
got the opportunity to work with a local company, worked.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
There for eight years.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Decided that I wanted to take an opportunity to build
something for myself and for my family. So January of
this past year, I losted Sentinel Fencing. And my father
works for me as an estimator and a vice president
of sales, and then my wife works as office manager
and operations manager.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So it is a family owned and operated business.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Okay, I'm waiting on Sadie to start at talking so
I can get her.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
On the phone. What do you enjoy about that?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I enjoy lots of things about it. Being able to
help people build something. So we do fences, we do decks,
we do paper patios Pergola's outdoor space type. Just being
outdoors outdoors, Being able to help somebody turn an idea
or a dream into reality in their backyard in their home.
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That's fun. Being able to help design something. They're like, man,
this is kind of what I think. What can we
do that that's fun?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And fencing now is very different because a lot of
people they're just I mean, yeah, the dog ear, you know,
wood fence is kind of the common thing. That's what
you saw at my home, but we wanted to do
something different that might have a little more lasting integrity.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's right, And there are a lot of options now
there are. There are a lot of options.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You've got composite, you know, materials like Treks and some
other manufacturers. You've got vinyl fencing right there, there's a plethora.
I actually just found a new privacy fence system this
past week through one of my suppliers. That is a
wood grain steel privacy fence and it is comparable cost
wise to vinyl, which I was very surprised with. It
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being steel galvanized powder coated finish, so it's gonna be
very durable. But lots and lots of different options.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
The thing that I love about, and full disclosure, Drake
and his company did part of we're doing a phased
replacement of our fencing. He did the first part of
that phase. We'll move into phase two next year. But
I was impressed by the fact that you don't face
wood rot with some of these.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Fully composite vinyl, lots of different things where you don't
have to worry about painting, staining or anything rotting.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, So what does what does the future look like
for you? Obviously, Sentinel Fencing people you can you can
find that online Sentinel Fencing dot com. But what does
what does the perfect world look like? Grow in this
business and fill in the blank.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Man growing this business and continuing to follow God's path.
From my family, my wife and I are very very
fortunate to have what we have.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Are do you want to be a cattle rancher? I
would love to.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Is that the idea of growing the herd to that
point to do that as well?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Absolutely, If I could get to the point in the
next five to ten years where I could purchase a
large parcel of land and have a operational cattle ranch,
small operational cattle RANCHU, I would definitely love that.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
The type of cattle that you're raising, what kind of
cattle are you talking?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
So, I have Brama influence cattle. I've got mostly Brangus,
which is angus and brama mix. I've got a The
first brama that was ever brought to the state of Florida.
My friend Keith Whaley and his family came here from
Central Florida. They brought the first Bramer cow to the
state of Florida. Before it was a state. Seven generations
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of ranchers in central Florida, and I have purchased and
purchasing a bull from them that is from that heritage.
So I've got a Brama bull on my herd this year.
With all of my brain gus cows.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Wow, Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Seven generations of ranchers here in Florida brought that that
cow to Mana, that bull to Monticela.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
It was a lot of fun having you in here today.
Thanks for making the time. It is senior weekend for
Florida State football, so we thought this this is a
perfect time to talk a little nostalgia with with Drake
Anderson about your time as Ossiola.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Thank you for having me, sir, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Sentinel Fencing dot com if you'd like to reach out.
But you know, it's it's it's a tradition that is
unlike any other and he played a huge part in
that tradition and fun to have him here on the
Morning Show with Preston Scott
Second hour.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Friday Edition Morning Show with Preustin Scott, November fourteenth, Hello Show,
fifty four ninety five.
Speaker 1 (00:12):
That sosay, I'm Preston.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Remember Orphanshade dot com raising funds to build a home
for young girls who are orphans in Malawi. We're looking
to build our second home with them and their sixth
home overall. So it's Orphanshade dot Com. I have had
this on the calendar for a little bit. Now joining
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me in studio is a friend. He's a client, but
first a friend. Drake Anderson is with me, and Drake
is along with his family, owner of Sentinel Fencing.
Speaker 1 (00:47):
We'll talk about that later. How you doing. I am wonderful, sir.
How are you this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
I'm doing good. Let's set this stage up a little bit.
Let's set the story and go back to your day.
We were just talking about how in the world did
you get to become, for lack of a.
Speaker 1 (01:06):
Better way of putting it, a horseman.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
I think that it was just something that God put
in me from the beginning because my family history, they
grew up you know, hunting, fishing, all that kind of stuff.
But my grandfather had a forty acre small cattle farm,
but never had any horses. I didn't grow up with horses.
I just came out of the womb wanting to be
(01:31):
a cowboy diapers and cowboy boots from the beginning.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
Do you remember, like when your love of horses even started.
Speaker 1 (01:40):
Was it a picture, was it a movie?
Speaker 3 (01:42):
Was it just I don't remember a time when I
did not want to be a cowboy. That's how far
back it goes.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, all right, So when does the relationship with horses begin.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
I had the opportunity at right at ten years old.
He had moved to a horse farm in central Alabama,
and the guy that owned the property was a cutting
horse trainer. It's a type of event that you do
with in western horseback riding. And I had the opportunity
(02:17):
to start. And he was a rough and tumble, old
gruff cowboy, and I had to earn my spurs. I
cleaned stalls for about six months, scooping, scooping all the
stuff to earn the right to ride. So I started
at the bottom and started to work my way up
to be able to just get on a horse there.
Speaker 2 (02:36):
And you didn't care what you were asked to do.
The end goal was getting on that horse.
Speaker 3 (02:40):
That's right, That's all I wanted to do. I was
homeschooled at that time. I was actually homeschool until I
started high school, and so I would I would wake
up at six o'clock every day and I would do
my book work and be done by noon, and I
would be sitting at his barn waiting on him to
come back from lunch so that I could start whatever
he wanted me to do, so that I could eventually
get on a horse.
Speaker 1 (02:59):
Do you remember the first time you got on a horse.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
No, I remember the first time that I got to
ride a cutting horse and I actually trained. It was
at that time, you know, fifty thousand dollars finished horse,
and I got the opportunity to ride him. That was
probably the nicest horse that I had sat on, probably
the top two nicest horse that I've ever sat on,
two or three at least, and I remember that vividly.
(03:24):
But first time, No, it was probably when I was
very very young, k pony at camp, some kind of thing.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Tell me about smoky Smoky.
Speaker 3 (03:33):
So I learned from a very young age saving money
my parents. I SI had a bank account, and I
worked and I earned money. By the time I was
ten years old, coinciding just after I had met the guy,
the cutting horse trainer. I bought my first horse ten
years old, my own money. My dad made me negotiate
the deal. I went and met with him. I shook
(03:55):
his hand and told him I could offer him a
thousand dollars and he took it, had a bill, a
safe rode it out, did the whole deal. Okay, brought
Smoky home.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
How big was Smoky? What do he look like?
Speaker 3 (04:05):
Smokey was a smoky black color, black, kind of a
black bass coat, kind of faded out in the summer.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
A little charcoal, that's right, okay, little charcoal.
Speaker 3 (04:16):
I rode him for about six months and ended up
flipping him for I think it was forty three hundred.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Why why were you able to do? Was he just
developed skills or were you that good at selling?
Speaker 1 (04:30):
Man?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
I think that was just a very fortunate deal, Okay.
I think that he had some ability that was untapped.
We fed him a little bit better than probably where
he was, got him looking really nice and pretty, and
found the right buyer and it just happened that way.
That was my first horse trade deal. Over doubled money,
well substantially.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
More than doubled. Was that the start. That was the start.
I was bitten at that point.
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Okay, okay, And we gave you a little hint there
living past the hour, Drake Anderson with me and we're
talking about the career path and we'll bring you to
current day in a little bit.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
But so you get to high school.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
What was going on in high school that would land
you on the radar of Florida State University.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
So after a year or so of tutelage under the
cutting horse trainer, I found another born locally. We had
moved from that property and I found another born locally.
I was eighth grade going into high school when I
met Terry Dinard and he became like a mentor to me,
and that is where I really learned the majority of
(05:42):
my horse training. I started riding with him and he
did team roping, and so he fixed and trained horses
for team roping.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
This event I.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Started with him, started riding, started roping, became very successful
locally there.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I did not compete in the High School Rodeo Association.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
I was kind of like a junior pro doing local
jackpots and other USCRC events that are team roping events.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
The Durham family.
Speaker 3 (06:13):
They contacted Terry looking for someone to come in, so
they knew him. They knew of him of him. He
was at an announcer for the high school Rodeo Association,
so they contacted him looking for a replacement, and he
of course brought me to mind. So that's how the
(06:34):
connection was made.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
If you don't know the Durham family, Bill Durham is
credited with being the founder of the tradition we now
know as Ostiola and Renegade. The family raises these horses,
acquires these horses, and they are responsible for I guess
the recruitment of the whoever would be Ostiola. Now at
(06:56):
the time, did you even know of the Florida state tradition.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
I had heard of Bobby Bowden before, that's about the extent, But.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
You didn't know anything about Oh, they use a horse
and a rider, not at all.
Speaker 1 (07:07):
I had.
Speaker 3 (07:08):
So my skill set became team roping and I was
training horses. I was making eight hundred dollars a month
with three to four horses at a time throughout high
school and so I actually ended up having a heated
discussion with my father about why I did not want
to go to college because I was making a lot
of money training horses and if I could do it
full time, I can make even more. So I ended
(07:30):
up getting a scholarship offer from Mississippi State and from
Troy University for rodeo. So they have rodeo collegiate teams
there and I got a scholarship offer from them. I
was a week away from signing with Troy State when
I was contacted by the Durham family and I had
never heard of FSU or heard of the tradition, and
(07:50):
had only ever heard of Bowden and FSU.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
That was it. Why did it win? Why did you
decide to come? And oh, by the way, become at
the I'm the longest tenured Osceola writing at Florida State
football games bowl games for five years.
Speaker 3 (08:09):
So initially he showed me a video, showed me what
it was about, and I was like, man, that's really cool.
What changed for me and what made me realize that
this is really what I want to do is when
I had to read a book, and I had to
read a book about the life of Osceola, the life
of the Seminal tribe and the Seminal Wars, and write
(08:30):
a report about what it would mean to me to
represent that individual, And in reading that and learning about
the history of the of the program and the history
of who they are representing, that's that's what sold me
on it.
Speaker 1 (08:43):
Looking back, Are you surprised you did it? Surprised as
in that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
You took that path after going through that, because I mean,
there's that's some hoop jumping. Oh yeah, reading the book,
writing a report to get a chance to do this
where you got standing offers a two universities.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, are you surprised you did it?
Speaker 3 (09:03):
I'm surprised that. No, I don't think so. That's where
I needed to be. That's where the path that God
laid in front of me, and I think that that's
that's where I needed to be. So no, I'm not surprised.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
What would people be the most surprised to know about
being Osceola and writing in front of seventy plus thousand
fans on a horse like that.
Speaker 3 (09:29):
I like the anonymity there's when I'm out there, You're
we're portraying a fierce warrior with all the regelia and
the wig and the makeup, and no one really knows.
It's kind of flying under the radar. I never was
braggadocious or really said anything. I've only ever had one
person recognize me out of out of character that I
(09:52):
did not know already. Sure so that I enjoyed being
able to do that as a gift to the university
and to the tribe and not have the spotlight on me.
Speaker 1 (10:04):
Do you recognize what it means to people now? I
do after the fact, I mean, looking.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
At it now, does it change how you view whoever
is Ostiola riding Renegade?
Speaker 3 (10:15):
Absolutely? I know the troubles that they're going through. I know,
I know the woes and the issues that they have sometimes. Man,
I tell you, it is hot the first part of
the season.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
It is very od.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
What you may not know about Drake and I'm if
you observe Ostiola from the stands, you're probably thinking, you know,
a rather diminutive young man riding the back of a horse.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
This is not a small young man.
Speaker 2 (10:42):
Drake is a very big guy and riding that horse
at six five six six and I'm guessing about two
forty that's right. Yeah, I'm thinking when you get on
the back of a horse, it goes.
Speaker 1 (10:57):
Yeah. They have.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Back with more with Drake Anderson here on the morning
show with President Scott back with Drake Anderson Osciola for
five seasons and some change.
Speaker 1 (11:19):
That's right. You got called back into duty when someone
got hurt. I did so.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
My Typically it's a four year gig. You intern two years,
you ride for two years. I got brought in as
a freshman and I rode starting. That's actually a fun story.
I was not actually supposed to ride the first game
because in two thousand and nine, the season that I started,
our first game was Labor Day Monday against Miami. I
(11:47):
had never seen a college football game before, so I trained,
I graduated high school, started riding three weeks later. Our
first game is Monday night starting that season, and I
had never been on the field at Dope Campbell on Renegade,
and I had never seen a call this football game
in person. So he's like, all right, I'm going to
bring back our rider from the last year to ride
(12:08):
this first game. Second game is Jacksonville State. That's a
perfect game for you to start with. The previous rider
came back the week of the game, got the flu.
Oh no, So by Friday, Alan.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Said, you're up, buddy, Alan Durham. Alan Durham, he was
my boss there. Yeah, I ran the program.
Speaker 3 (12:28):
So I had to call parents and call everybody, and
I was like, Hey, I'm actually riding Monday, so let's
find some tickets and y'all get down here to Tallahassee.
So that was my first collegiate football game that I
ever saw in person, was on the back of Renegade
against Miami.
Speaker 2 (12:45):
How much practice is required to get that down to
where because it's an art. It's an art to ride
that horse to the middle of the field, get it
to rear up so that you can plant the spear
as it comes down. Oh yeah, how much practice had
you had before that first game?
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Doing that? The entire summer five six days a week,
you were planting spears.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Not only that, but riding with the horse and getting
acclimated to the program, figuring out the routine, and just
practicing to get ready for it.
Speaker 1 (13:17):
How do they prepare for the crowd? There is no
preparation for it. Yeah you can't. You can't simulate that, no, sir.
But they do prepare the horses by sort of they
bring one in while the others getting close to maybe retirement.
That's right, acclimating a backup horse as needed to the
crowd noise, right, that's right.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
They've typically got a backup renegade and a and a
backup Ostiola. They're at the games at all times. So
that's kind of the general rule of thumb, and that
that that backup horse rider is learning and growing to
take over the position when their time comes.
Speaker 2 (13:53):
So you were Ostiola at the end of Bobby Bowden's career.
Speaker 1 (13:56):
I was.
Speaker 2 (13:57):
And you have a fascinating story about how your life
and ancestry intersects with coach Bowton.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Yes.
Speaker 3 (14:05):
So my grandfather played football at Samford. Bobby played football
at Yes, he did. So when I came down in
two thousand and nine, the first chance that I got
to meet Bobby in person, I introduced myself and I
asked him, do you remember Charles Anderson from your Sanford.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
High school days?
Speaker 3 (14:22):
And he kind of scratched his head and he slapped
me on the shoulder and he said, you mean Slim
and that was my grandfather's nickname. I said, yes, sir,
that was my grandfather. He played football there. He said, well, heck, can.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
I remember him? He bumped me out of my starting
position at quarterback.
Speaker 3 (14:38):
So my grandfather bumped Bobby out of his starting position.
Speaker 1 (14:41):
At quarterback at Sanford University of University. That's hilarious. And yeah,
that was the first time I met Bobby.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
All right before we go to break the top three
memories as Osceola on the back.
Speaker 1 (14:54):
Of Renegade in no particular order.
Speaker 3 (14:56):
The Oklahoma game, which one that would have in twenty twelve,
I believe leading up to our national championship.
Speaker 1 (15:04):
Both top five yep, both top five.
Speaker 3 (15:07):
The loudest that I've ever heard dok Campbell in person
ever when Bobby Bowden retired in Jacksonville at the bowl
game I think that was the Champs Bowl in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
Why does that stand out? West Virginia And a cool
story about the mascot they are in some interactions we had.
Speaker 2 (15:24):
Okay, and then but you handed the spirit to coach
Bowden because I remember he planted the spirit at that game.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
That's right.
Speaker 3 (15:29):
We hand the spear off to certain people for certain events,
and his retirement.
Speaker 1 (15:35):
Of course met the bar for that.
Speaker 3 (15:36):
Absolutely handed the spear off to him and he planted
there and number three National championship twenty thirteen. You were
there on the horse loud and proud Rose Bowl. Yes, sir,
did you ride in the parade.
Speaker 1 (15:51):
I was not in the parade. No, they didn't want
to do that, did they know?
Speaker 3 (15:55):
With that environment and with it being so far out
of our home tier to kind of deal was it
was too much to coordinate and too many variables. So
we just wrote at the game, which was a very
fun and very complicated event.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
The Rose Bowl is a special place, a special, great
set of memories, absolutely too much to talk about. So
I asked Drake Anderson to stick around. He, of course
Osceola and part of that incredible college football tradition. It
(16:34):
is one of it is one of the most unique
college football traditions out there. But you were there for
the national title game you leave Florida State University. You
and I first met because I got a mail an
email from I don't know if it was a Bureau
of Land Management or something affiliated with a wild Mustang makeover.
(16:56):
How'd you get roped into that?
Speaker 1 (16:58):
So? I, uh.
Speaker 3 (17:01):
When I graduated college and my wife and I we
bought our place in mont Solo, I was on the
side trying to kind of hustle and get back to
training horses, which is what I love to do, and
to do that. I had had a friend that competed
in the Extreme Messtang makeover before, and I decided that
I wanted to try that as well, so I signed
(17:21):
up and got selected. Okay, it's a whole process to
go through that. You have to have the facility to
hold the mustang because it's a wild horse. Up until
the point that it gets to your property, it's probably
only been touched by force one hundred percent.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
They've been roped or or.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
Uh or shot with a with a trank gun. Yeah, sorry, tranked,
And so you have to get selected. And I finally
was selected for it.
Speaker 1 (17:49):
And uh, that's where you and I met.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
You came on this show, you came in this studio
and we talked about that experience.
Speaker 1 (17:57):
What was that like? That was a blast.
Speaker 3 (17:59):
It was the first time that I've ever trained a
horse from the ground up that no one else has
ever interacted with.
Speaker 1 (18:07):
And was that the challenge of it for you that
you wanted to take on? Yeah, I wanted to.
Speaker 3 (18:11):
I wanted to see what it would be like to
take a wild horse, because even a horse that's untrained,
that is that is tame, is way different. Mustangs have
lived their life scrounging out of living on the land,
and they have an innate distrust for humans and you've
got to overcome.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
That from a horse perspective. Is that the most rewarding
experience you've had.
Speaker 1 (18:36):
One of them? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (18:37):
I would say that's definitely one of them. To take
that horse and to mold her into something. I actually
ended up buying her back from the program after it
was done, and then I gifted her to my my
my brother in law he'd fallen in love with. Her
name was honisi Oski, which means wild rain in the
Seminal language. And when we went to pick her up,
(19:00):
we almost got blown off the road by a tornado,
and so I just felt it was fate to call
her wild Rain.
Speaker 2 (19:06):
So yeah, and the horse and your brother in law
are coexisting wonderfully.
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Happy as could be. She's fat as a butter ball
here in Tallahassee. Just doing kids lessons. Actually, you're kidding me.
That's hilarious.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
So you are you still doing any horse training? Not
so much training.
Speaker 3 (19:26):
My wife and I we've got property out in Montslo
We've got horses, cows. I think I've got twenty five
head of cows and we've got seven seven horses. I
think so do a little bit of a little bit
of cowboy riding. I've got a couple of friends that
have large ranches and try to try to get on
horseback as much as possible.
Speaker 1 (19:44):
But with a new business, it's yeah, oftentimes not as easy. Well,
and not just a new business and a child there
we go.
Speaker 2 (19:51):
That changes everything everything, And we're not talking about a horse,
by the way, later and gentleman, which to a horseman
you could consider a new horse child, you could do that,
but that's not what we're talking about. More to come,
Drake Anderson with me for one more segment here on
the Morning Show with Drake Anderson, and we're sharing a
(20:13):
little bit of our long and complicated history together here
on the on the program. So you moved to Monticello,
you're married, you've got a family starting here, and you've
got some cattle, a few horses. But then you recently
opened up a business. I did tell us a little
bit about that. What got you into fencing?
Speaker 1 (20:37):
I wanted to get off roofs. That's where it actually started.
Speaker 3 (20:40):
I why not, I'd rather not climb on a roof
every day I did. I did sales and estimating for
local contractors and roofing for years, started in the fence industry,
got the opportunity to work with a local company, worked.
Speaker 1 (20:57):
There for eight years.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
Decided that I wanted to take an opportunity to build
something for myself and for my family. So January of
this past year, I losted Sentinel Fencing. And my father
works for me as an estimator and a vice president
of sales, and then my wife works as office manager
and operations manager.
Speaker 1 (21:17):
So it is a family owned and operated business.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Okay, I'm waiting on Sadie to start at talking so
I can get her.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
On the phone. What do you enjoy about that?
Speaker 3 (21:30):
I enjoy lots of things about it. Being able to
help people build something. So we do fences, we do decks,
we do paper patios Pergola's outdoor space type. Just being
outdoors outdoors, Being able to help somebody turn an idea
or a dream into reality in their backyard in their home.
(21:51):
That's fun. Being able to help design something. They're like, man,
this is kind of what I think. What can we
do that that's fun?
Speaker 2 (21:59):
And fencing now is very different because a lot of
people they're just I mean, yeah, the dog ear, you know,
wood fence is kind of the common thing. That's what
you saw at my home, but we wanted to do
something different that might have a little more lasting integrity.
Speaker 1 (22:18):
That's right, And there are a lot of options now
there are. There are a lot of options.
Speaker 3 (22:21):
You've got composite, you know, materials like Treks and some
other manufacturers. You've got vinyl fencing right there, there's a plethora.
I actually just found a new privacy fence system this
past week through one of my suppliers. That is a
wood grain steel privacy fence and it is comparable cost
wise to vinyl, which I was very surprised with. It
(22:42):
being steel galvanized powder coated finish, so it's gonna be
very durable. But lots and lots of different options.
Speaker 1 (22:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
The thing that I love about, and full disclosure, Drake
and his company did part of we're doing a phased
replacement of our fencing. He did the first part of
that phase. We'll move into phase two next year. But
I was impressed by the fact that you don't face
wood rot with some of these.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
Fully composite vinyl, lots of different things where you don't
have to worry about painting, staining or anything rotting.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Yeah, So what does what does the future look like
for you? Obviously, Sentinel Fencing people you can you can
find that online Sentinel Fencing dot com. But what does
what does the perfect world look like? Grow in this
business and fill in the blank.
Speaker 3 (23:33):
Man growing this business and continuing to follow God's path.
From my family, my wife and I are very very
fortunate to have what we have.
Speaker 1 (23:42):
Are do you want to be a cattle rancher? I
would love to.
Speaker 2 (23:45):
Is that the idea of growing the herd to that
point to do that as well?
Speaker 3 (23:49):
Absolutely, If I could get to the point in the
next five to ten years where I could purchase a
large parcel of land and have a operational cattle ranch,
small operational cattle RANCHU, I would definitely love that.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
The type of cattle that you're raising, what kind of
cattle are you talking?
Speaker 3 (24:06):
So, I have Brama influence cattle. I've got mostly Brangus,
which is angus and brama mix. I've got a The
first brama that was ever brought to the state of Florida.
My friend Keith Whaley and his family came here from
Central Florida. They brought the first Bramer cow to the
state of Florida. Before it was a state. Seven generations
(24:30):
of ranchers in central Florida, and I have purchased and
purchasing a bull from them that is from that heritage.
So I've got a Brama bull on my herd this year.
With all of my brain gus cows.
Speaker 1 (24:44):
Wow, Okay.
Speaker 3 (24:46):
Seven generations of ranchers here in Florida brought that that
cow to Mana, that bull to Monticela.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
It was a lot of fun having you in here today.
Thanks for making the time. It is senior weekend for
Florida State football, so we thought this this is a
perfect time to talk a little nostalgia with with Drake
Anderson about your time as Ossiola.
Speaker 1 (25:04):
Thank you for having me, sir, appreciate it.
Speaker 2 (25:07):
Sentinel Fencing dot com if you'd like to reach out.
But you know, it's it's it's a tradition that is
unlike any other and he played a huge part in
that tradition and fun to have him here on the
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