August 5, 2025 • 24 mins
I have a friend that’s made an effort to visit every baseball stadium in the country. He’s pretty close now. I think he only needs 4 or 5 more and he’ll have it. One of the reasons he loves this quest is that it gives him an excuse to visit cities he wouldn’t otherwise go to.
I get what he’s saying. I have this goal in life to run a half marathon in every state of the country. I’ve checked 7 off so far. I can’t say I would’ve traveled to Idaho if it weren’t for a race. Sports tourism is a thing. People travel all over the place to see landmarks or their favorite teams. And the areas surrounding these venues get to benefit from all of the visitors.
This week’s conversation is taking us to Green Bay Wisconsin. A city that is best known as the home of the Green Bay Packers. And while thousands of people travel there during the football season, the area has so much to offer throughout the year. It’s landscape is beautiful and there is so much natural beauty there. You’ve got the Bay of Green Bay and the Fox River that provide water adventures and unique opportunities to see the landscape. There’s family friendly fun in theme parks and a remarkable food scene as well.
I don’t know if you’ve heard, but small towns are in. People are bypassing major cities for vacations in smaller towns and cities. Green Bay should be up at the top of your list for your next vacation. Though, if you hate the cold, you might want to wait until next summer. With me this week is Nick Meisner. He’s the VP of Marketing for Discover Green Bay
I get what he’s saying. I have this goal in life to run a half marathon in every state of the country. I’ve checked 7 off so far. I can’t say I would’ve traveled to Idaho if it weren’t for a race. Sports tourism is a thing. People travel all over the place to see landmarks or their favorite teams. And the areas surrounding these venues get to benefit from all of the visitors.
This week’s conversation is taking us to Green Bay Wisconsin. A city that is best known as the home of the Green Bay Packers. And while thousands of people travel there during the football season, the area has so much to offer throughout the year. It’s landscape is beautiful and there is so much natural beauty there. You’ve got the Bay of Green Bay and the Fox River that provide water adventures and unique opportunities to see the landscape. There’s family friendly fun in theme parks and a remarkable food scene as well.
I don’t know if you’ve heard, but small towns are in. People are bypassing major cities for vacations in smaller towns and cities. Green Bay should be up at the top of your list for your next vacation. Though, if you hate the cold, you might want to wait until next summer. With me this week is Nick Meisner. He’s the VP of Marketing for Discover Green Bay
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Hey, what's up everyone. Welcome to Delightful Destinations. My name
is Jeff Saint Pierre and this is episode thirty nine.
If it's your first time checking out the program, welcome,
I appreciate your time. Delightful Destinations is the show that
I created so I could talk to representatives from different
locations around the country and learn more about these beautiful
places that are all around us. I don't know about you,
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but I'm always looking for some sort of excuse to
get away from home. I love traveling, and I hope
this show will help inspire you the next time you're
trying to get away. So I've got this friend. I've
got a friend that's made an effort to visit every
baseball stadium in the country, and he's pretty close now
to checking him all off. I think he only needs
like four or five more and then he'll have it now.
One of the reasons he loves this quest is that
it gives him an excuse to visit cities he might
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otherwise not go to. I get what he's saying. I
have this goal in life to run a half marathon
in every state of the country. So Vibra only checked
seven off my list. I can't say that I would
have traveled to Idaho if it weren't for a race,
So I understand what he's saying. Sports tourism is a
thing people travel all over the place to see landmarks
of their favorite teams, and the area surrounding these venues
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get to benefit from all of these visitors. Now, this
week's conversation is taking us to Green Bay, Wisconsin, a
city that is best known as the home of the
Green Bay Packers. And while thousands of people travel there
during the football season, this area has so much to
offer throughout the entire year. Its landscape is beautiful and
there is so much natural beauty there. You've got the
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Bay of Green Bay and the Fox River that provide
water adventures and unique opportunities to see the landscape. There's
family friendly fun and theme parks and a remarkable food
scene as well. And we're just scratching the surface at
what Green Bay can offer you. Now. I don't know
if you've heard, but small towns are in. People are
bypassing major cities for vacations and smaller towns and cities
(01:44):
and Green Bay should be up at the top of
your list for your next vacation. So if you do
hate the cold, you might want to wait until next summer.
With me this week is Nick Meisner. He's the VP
of marketing for Discover green Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Thanks for having me, Jess.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So Nick, we're going to talk about a lot of
things the Green Bay and the green Bay area here
and give people a reason to come visit you. But
I know that just a couple of months ago you
had a massive event and to me, as someone who's
never been to Wisconsin before, green Bay is a football town, right,
But like to me, that's all that green Bay is like.
To me, green Bay is packers and cheese and maybe
that's about it. But you just had the NFL Draft there.
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So if the NFL is going to move a massive
event like the draft to green Bay, there's got to
be more than just the Packers because they want people
to have a good time when they're visiting that city.
So let's talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, first of all, you hit on a good point.
I think a lot of people kind of think that,
and that's fine, that's great. We love the Packers obviously,
you know, we are very lucky that you know they're here.
You hear so many stories of you know, teams moving cities,
and you know, the connection between the Packers and the
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city of Green Bay is something that's really really special,
and you know, it gives us an Internet brand, which
is great. But also, you know, somebody has to be
the smallest market in professional sports and it just so
happens to be us. But I like to remind people
that we are a city with a professional sports team.
So even though it's a big thing, it's it's you know,
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definitely our main attraction here in Green Bay, but there
is there's so much more to do where a vibrant
waterfront city that has tons to offer, regardless if you're
a football fan or not.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Not to harp on the sports thing, but I can't
think of many other cities in the country that only
have one team, you know, like I think Oklahoma City,
they only have one pro sports team as far as
I'm aware, But there's not many that I can think
of that only have the one professional team. So that
there's something kind of special about that that Green Bay
still holds on to that football team when there's you know,
usually these teams like you mentioned are jumping to bigger
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markets or or they're congomerating somewhere else. That's kind of
special that Green Bay has been able to hold on.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, and you know, you go back in the history
of it, and you know, you look at it now
in the NFL is a billion dollar enterprise, billions of dollars,
and they run an incredible business and the people there
are amazing. But if you travel back in time, the
city of green Bay saved the people of green Bay,
I should say saved the Packers butts. They do those
stock sales for a reason. You know, the team was
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about to go under and be no more, and the
community stepped up. They got sponsorship from local businesses to
stay in town. And so you know, you look at
that and the team and the community are really woven
really tightly together. And it just so happened that by
staying here in green Bay, the grand, the brand, and
the stadium grew so much that we extend that community
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to Packers fans across the globe who come to Green
Bay for games or just to see the field. So
you know, it's it's definitely a unique situation. Actually, I
would highly recommend the book The Greatest Story in Professional Sports.
It's a great kind of synopsis of how and why
the Packers are still here in our city.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I do have a couple of family members that are
part owners of the Packers, so it is something that
is a part of my family as well. I am
not You gotta get on that, Nick, What's going on?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You live there?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
At everything?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I know? You know, I live here, I go to games,
I support in every way that I can. But you know,
I'm just not cut out for ownership.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I got that's too many decisions. Are you a Green
Bay native? Are you from the area originally?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yep, born and raised here in Green Bay. I actually
grew up about two blocks from lambeau Field. When I
was a kid, I would rade my bike down there
and give rides to players down to training camp. And yeah,
so you know, born and raised here. I love this city.
I love this region. You know, I've lived in a
couple different suburbs around the area now, so I've got
to experience a lot of what it has to offer.
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So yeah, it's a great place. You know, there's nothing
like summers in Green Bay and Wisconsin as a whole.
So I'm really enjoying the high tourism time right now.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I love that you mentioned that. First of all, I
always think I shouldn't be surprised by it, but I'm
astounded at how many people in your position that I
speak with that are natives of the area they're representing. Right, Like,
I shouldn't be surprised because you have such a love
for your area you want to get people to come
visit it. But I guess, just the way jobs work now,
everyone's moving around for jobs. So I'm just always surprised
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how many natives are the people that are actually doing
the tourism stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, it is. It's you know, you look around the
landscape and there is a lot of a lot of
us who are natives. There's also some who you know,
move to their positions, especially in bigger destinations. But this
is a dream job for me, you know. I get
to wake up every day, you know, come to work
and talk about the city and the region that I love.
And it's funny sometimes I tell my friends or my
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wife or whatever, Hey, so for work today, I gotta
go give a tour of Lambeufield and then I gotta go,
you know, eat, go, bring, you know, bring a group
of journalists to one of our many good restaurants Angelina's
for Italian or go to a steakhouse or whatever, grab
a Friday fish fryer, some cheese kurts to show off
our local cuisine. Maybe go to a show at the
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Meyer Theater. And they're like, that's not a you're just
having fun. I'm like, well, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I kind of have a similar thing because I work
in radio. So, like you know, at the time that
we're recording this conversation, tomorrow night, we have a big
concert in our local area. I'm like, yeah, I gotta
go to work. I got to go hang out at
a concert with an A list band and just have
a good time. But that's work sometimes, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah. I think it's good to have that perspective though,
because it's like we get tons of benefits, like like
you guys do in radio, to have these experiences and
do these things that you know, the big shows for
the NFL Draft, I had so many credentials around my
neck to get access to where. But you know, getting
that perspective of that it's not work and you just
get to enjoy your community, you know, like people who
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are visiting, I think is really helpful to put in perspective.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Let's talk about some outdoor stuff because as you mentioned
summertime is beautiful in that area, and I think a
lot of people people sleep on how beautiful summertime can
be in the northern parts of this country. Like they
think snow, they think cold, they forget how awesome the
summer is. I'm from New England, so I I understand
that perfectly. So let's talk a little bit. Like I know,
I've got some notes here about some highlights in Green
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Bay and the Green Bay area. Let's talk about the
Green Bay Estuary and Research Reserve. That is a hard
thing to say, but I made it through it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It is it is. You nailed it. You nailed it.
We'll just go with ner for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Great.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, Green Bay is a really beautiful spot in the summer.
I always like to joke that there was, you know,
one Sunday in January and the nineteen sixties and the
nickname frozen Tundra stuck. But contrary to popular belief, we
are not always cold. It's been in the eighties and
nineties here for the last eight nine months, and we've
been on the water, you know, been on the water
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and the Fox River and the Bay of Green Bay.
So the estuary is designated by Noah and they It's
kind of I compare it to the national parks. You know,
how people go around and they get their little National
Park badge and they try to get to every National park.
It's kind of the same with estuaries, but just with
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coastline and waterway. So the estuary in Green Bay is
the largest freshwater estuary in the world where the Fox
River and the Bay of Green Bay meat creating many
different flowages and rivers and creeks and streams and waterfalls
across the area, and there's a ton of natural benefits
for that migratory birds. We see almost every North American
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migratory bird come through because of the estuary. So it's
big for bird watchers, for nature lovers, kayakers, it's some
of the most beautiful kayaking scenery that you can find.
And also from an outdoorsman standpoint, it is one of
the best walleye fisheries in the world. So in the
spring and early summertime on the Fox River in the
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Bay of Green Bay, you'll just see hundreds of fishing
boats out there. In fact, we bought brought a fishing
crater in a couple of springs ago and had her
set up in a few of the hotspots and she
and I think it was her or fourth cast. It
was still the sun was still rising, and she caught
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her professional best walleye in her second or third cast
her first day here in green Bay. So from a
natural scenery standpoint, when you combine the estuary with the
Niagara Escarpment, it is really truly beautiful.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm taking a look at a map of Green Bay
right now. As you were talking, I wanted to look
it up. And it's kind of cool that the Fox
River just kind of splits the city right in half,
which is something that you don't often see, which is
kind of a cool experience. It gives people that are
visiting a new I'm sure you have boat tours on
the Fox River there as well. Oh yeah, it looks
like the perfect setting for like I'm picturing Chicago almost
Obviously green Bay not as big as Chicago, but you yeah,
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you've got that river that runs right through that people
will hop on a boat and get a chance to
go out there and enjoy a nice afternoon out there.
Then you've got the Bay of green Bay right there.
I mean, I just that is such a cool like setup.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
You got, Oh hidden gem is Longtail Island. You take
your boat out to Longtail, it's like a beach sandbar. Yeah,
he's tied up all next to each other. Folks like
yourself are radio stations. Will even go out there and
play some and play some music and have DJs and
it's just a big party.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And you've got this amusement park right there on the
water too.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It looks like yeah, yeah, Bay Beach is actually one
of the oldest city run amusement parks in the world.
It's like you're stepping back in time. You know. You
walk up to the kiosk when you walk in and
you purchase your tickets, right, yeah, those are twenty five
cents wow a ticket, and then each ride is I
think the most expensive ride is six tickets, and that's
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the roller coaster, the Zip and Pippin. So I'll take
my family of four there. I'll throw a twenty down
and I'll have this mitful of tickets that's like, you know,
arms and arms and arms length, and we'll have three
four hours of pure fun at Baby Beach. And you
can get yourself a snow cone or some cotton candy,
maybe a soft pretzel, and get the full and there's
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rides for you know, toddlers up to adults, so you
can really make a fun day out of baby.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Gosh, it looks like so much fun, like I'm picturing.
It's funny. You have this space where it's in the
northern part of the country, northern Midwest. But it also
sort of has like almost like a beach vibe, like
you've got like a beach town sort of too. At
the same time.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, you know, people don't think of the beaches when
they think of Green Bay, right, we do have tons
of tons of water front. If you travel just just
to the east, you'll find a little city called Algoma, Okay.
And if you look up, if you have your computer
in front of you and look up Crescent Beach, Algoma, Wisconsin,
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it looks like you're it looks like you're on a
beach at the at the ocean. I mean, the water
is beautiful blue, it's you know, tan sand beaches. They
have a kite festival there. Yeah, I saw your face.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
It just popped up. Oh my, this is beautiful, stunning,
like truly stunning.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I love. And then in Green Bay when they're doing
the sailboat stuff that you can sit on the beach
and watch these colorful sailboats go by. Yeah beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Gosh. Really, I mean, you're opening my eyes to so
many new things. Like I've I have friends, and I've
done some radio work with some of the stations in Wisconsin,
and it's been nice to be able to, you know,
kind of loosely experience Green Bay from like externally from
over here in Baltimore, Maryland. But wow, just like speaking
to you and looking at some of these pictures in
the maps, it's opening my eyes to this whole new place.
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Like I didn't. I never thought so much of this
about Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah it is. It's a pretty spot. And you know,
we talked a little bit about, you know, the Packers
and Lambeufield. A lot of people think the Lambeoufield Stadium
District is like downtown green Bay. It's not. We have
a whole nother downtown just about three miles north of
where Lambo sits. Lambo has created this, you know, this
separate district and we call it the Stadium District or
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the title town District, whatever you know, you want to
call it, where there is a hub of live work,
play opportunities around the stadium and great dining and great
accommodations and all that. But if you go just three
miles north of the stadium a little bit, you'll find
a really vibrant downtown with theaters and public art and
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a river walk where there's live music every Friday, great
water front living apartments, a really cultural urban hub there.
On Wednesday nights they have a farmers Market, which is
more of a block party that goes on. Yeah, and
just programming all the time that that our districts are
doing in the downtown area. I would say that's where
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probably the best dining is in Green Bay is in downtown,
whether you're looking for you know, casual where you can
grab some cheese, curds and a burger all the way
to you know fine dining, steakhouses with eclectic chefs like Fusion,
or you know, more modern dining. You know, you can
find anything down there too. And there's tons of arts
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and entertainment theaters, you know, concerts, all that and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I know, if you go to a big major city
like say Chicago, which would be closer you, or like
New York or LA, that's where you're gonna find like
the Michelin Star restaurants and all that, Like, I get that,
but I find that the smaller cities, the places like
Green Bay or even Baltimore, Like, the smaller cities are
the places where you're gonna find some really eclectic and
exciting cuisine because I just the chefs that come into
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those areas, they love their area and they really want
to put on a show for the people that are there.
So I think places like Green Bay are the hidden
gems of like the best food in America.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Oh oh yeah. And sometimes it's like you walk into
a place and it looks you know, you're like, oh,
this can't be you know that great and my favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Spot had those are the best places to go to.
Have you heard of No, I haven't, but that's in
my notes. I wanted to ask you about that because
it sounds very exciting.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah. Actually, Bouya is so green Bay. Actually, people from
Milwaukee and Madison and other places in Wisconsin don't even
know what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Okay, if Bay it's just kind of like the uh
it's the Green Bay equivalent of Rochester's garbage plate? Is
that like kind of like different, different food, but like
it's your local thing that like no other place around
you has.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, and it's a super fun name.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So it dates back to the Belgian settlers that came here.
It's a very very hardy, very very hardy soup kind
of kind of dish. We actually I was in New
Orleans for the Super Bowl doing a activation to promote
Green Bay and we brought bouja and a lot of
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people compared it to like gumbo. So, but buya is
not a short process to make. You cook it over
an open flame in like a fifty gallon kettle, and
you use the whole chicken, right, You chop up the
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whole part, you know, all the meat from the chicken,
your veggies, your your chicken stock, and all of your seasonings,
and you let it stew for at least fourteen hours
and then it's ready to serve. So you'll see a
lot of churches and schools around here doing fundraisers where
they sell buya buy the ice cream pail, because you
do make it in such big batches. But every restaurant,
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every restaurant around Green Bay has their their version of bouia.
In fact, the restaurant at lambeau Field called nineteen nineteen
Kitchen and Tap, they have a buoya where they found
the recipe and it was dated like eighteen ninety something,
and they use that exact recipe to serve their buoya
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and they make it in the big batches and then
it's ready for you. So it's really a unique dish
that is really hyper green Bay. And there's some places
where it's their specialty. You know, a lot of places
you'll see like the soup of the day and then
they'll be like a chili. Here in Green Bay there's
soup of the day, chili and buoya many you know,
So it's definitely something you got to try when you
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come to our nick.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You've mentioned cheese curds a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Scream pale. Oh, please buy an ice cream pail and
send it over.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Please do. I would love to try this. You've mentioned
cheese curds a couple of times in this conversation too,
And I would be remiss if we didn't talk about
cheese because it is Green Bay, after all, it's Wisconsin,
so we got to talk about cheese.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Oh, for sure, it's the best cheese in the world,
of course. And yeah, and if you don't, you know,
I know I sound biased, but the cheesemakers around here
in Green Bay have literally won Best Cheese in the
World awards in Italy and in France and in lots
of places. I mean, agriculture is a massive, massive industry
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here in Wisconsin, and and we embrace it. We love
our agriculture, We love our farmers, and a lot of
our farms have really great, unique experiences. You can go
and tour some of the farms. Sometimes they'll have events,
lunch on the farm, breakfast on the farms that are
really great, especially if you know you're you're from a
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larger city like Chicago or Baltimore and don't have those
opportunities at your fingertips here in Green Bay. You could
be downtown Green Bay experiencing, you know, a show at
one of our theaters, and in ten minutes, you you know,
drive ten minutes you'll be out a breakfast on the farm.
So you really get a mix of the two. But
when it comes to the cheese, that's something that we're
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really really proud of. You know, it's I don't even
know how to explain it, because it's just not the
same when I go and get, you know, cheese somewhere else.
But cheese curds are really you know, the thing that
everyone knows and needs to try. And it's kind of
funny because cheese curds are actually a byproduct of the
cheesemaking process. It's the curds that kind of come off
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the cheese as it's as it's aging. And I know
there's cheesemakers out there screaming at me right now because
I'm explaining completely wrong. You know, you can eat them
in two different ways. The fresh cheese curds that you
can get when you go to any grocery store, they
actually squeak when you eat them, not raw, but you know,
you know, not deep fried and breaded, which is the
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other option, which almost makes it like a mini mozzarellistick,
but like way more flavorful with that, like rich cheddar flavor.
And then it usually comes with like a dipping sauce
like a ranch dressing or horse radish or marinara or
uh whatever restaurants spin they want to they want to
put on it, and everyone has a different style. Every
restaurant has a different style, so it's always up for
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debate as to where you can get the best ones.
So I'm gonna stay out of that conversation. I say,
come to Green Bay and try them all.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Do you guys do poutine in Green Bay? Because I
feel like that would be a perfect fit with the
cheese curds.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You know, there's some places that do poutine, but not
necessarily as like you won't find it all over you know, we'll, we'll,
we'll stick with the cheese without the gravy. Yeah, they
put the gravy on it because their cheese isn't good.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh man, now you're gonna get me in trouble. Now
you're gonna get you know. Early in the conversation, you
mentioned something about niagaras the Niagara Escarpment. I'm so curious
to learn more about this.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So the Niagara Escarment is the land formation that actually
does form the Niagara Falls, but it runs from Canada
down through Lake Michigan into Wisconsin and into our area.
Green Bays is fairly flat when it comes to topography.
You know, a lot of places that are as close
to the water as we are, you know, are are
more flat when it comes to the you know, surrounding
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the Gray Lakes. But the Niagara Escarment does provide some
topographical beauty and it's basically I wouldn't even it looks
more like a hill, a really big hill. I wouldn't
call it a mountain. But what it lacks in height,
it makes up for in depth and length. So it
runs through it completely runs through our county, and it
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creates a couple different things. First of all, hiking and biking.
You know, it's not it's not to the level of
hiking and biking on our trails as you would find
in you know, the expert level places like you know,
Colorado or Appalachia or anything like that. But it's a
great if you're not like a super great biker or
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are into like extreme hiking, it's a place that you
can easily find some great outdoor recreation opportunities. And believe
it or not that Niagara's Scartment creates a few different
waterfalls around Green Bay that are really really pretty. Actually,
there's one at Von Ferrick, which is a park in
southern the southern part of the Green Bay area that
you actually hike through the Niagara's Garment to get to
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and then you follow the river down to the waterfall.
There's actually a trail you can go behind the waterfall
and see it from behind. So it's a really cool spot.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I love that you really do have a lot of
great outdoor opportunities as where you know, we're still midsummer here,
we're getting towards the end, which will then gear up
football season for all of you there in Green Bay.
I'm sorry that the Packers are playing Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh
this year and not in Green Bay, because I'm sure
fans will be very excited to go boo Aaron Rodgers
for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I think there'll be some booze. There may have been
some booze if he was coming to Green Bay, but
I think ultimately everyone respects what he did here.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You know, I guess it's fair. You can't be mad
about that, I suppose, But Nick, I mean, just so
many incredible things. Where do people go if they want
to start planning their trip?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
The easiest place is green Bay dot com. Green Bay
dot com super easy to remember. That's where you'll find
all of the stuff that Discover green Bay has to offer.
There's itineraries, there's blogs, there's photos, videos, listings of all
the different places, dining, hotels, attractions, outdoor recreation.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You can find it all there and good get by
the way of getting green Bay dot com. That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yo. So they had it before I got, before I started,
and I heard the story our ceo they actually bought it,
but weren't using it. They were using a different URL,
And like when my CEO started here twenty years ago,
he's like, we're switching that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, why wouldn't you green Bay dot com. It's rare
that a city can own like their own thing like that.
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty sweet. We're we're lucky and fortunate
to have it. It sticks on the memory. You don't
even have to think about it, just green bay dot com. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, Nick, I have really enjoyed this conversation. You've opened
my eyes to so many beautiful things about Green Bay
that I knew nothing about. And I hope people listening
will take an opportunity to spend some time in Green
Bay and make a visit. Nick Meisner, the VP of
Marketing for Discover green Bay, I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Man, Hey, thank you so much. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Big thank you to Nick Meisner. Again. Their website is
green Bay dot com. You can head there and start
planning your visit. And thank you to all of you
for listening to delightful destinations this week, I appreciate you.
I'm Jeff Saint Pierre. Until next week, be well,
Hey, what's up everyone. Welcome to Delightful Destinations. My name
is Jeff Saint Pierre and this is episode thirty nine.
If it's your first time checking out the program, welcome,
I appreciate your time. Delightful Destinations is the show that
I created so I could talk to representatives from different
locations around the country and learn more about these beautiful
places that are all around us. I don't know about you,
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but I'm always looking for some sort of excuse to
get away from home. I love traveling, and I hope
this show will help inspire you the next time you're
trying to get away. So I've got this friend. I've
got a friend that's made an effort to visit every
baseball stadium in the country, and he's pretty close now
to checking him all off. I think he only needs
like four or five more and then he'll have it now.
One of the reasons he loves this quest is that
it gives him an excuse to visit cities he might
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otherwise not go to. I get what he's saying. I
have this goal in life to run a half marathon
in every state of the country. So Vibra only checked
seven off my list. I can't say that I would
have traveled to Idaho if it weren't for a race,
So I understand what he's saying. Sports tourism is a
thing people travel all over the place to see landmarks
of their favorite teams, and the area surrounding these venues
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get to benefit from all of these visitors. Now, this
week's conversation is taking us to Green Bay, Wisconsin, a
city that is best known as the home of the
Green Bay Packers. And while thousands of people travel there
during the football season, this area has so much to
offer throughout the entire year. Its landscape is beautiful and
there is so much natural beauty there. You've got the
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Bay of Green Bay and the Fox River that provide
water adventures and unique opportunities to see the landscape. There's
family friendly fun and theme parks and a remarkable food
scene as well. And we're just scratching the surface at
what Green Bay can offer you. Now. I don't know
if you've heard, but small towns are in. People are
bypassing major cities for vacations and smaller towns and cities
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and Green Bay should be up at the top of
your list for your next vacation. So if you do
hate the cold, you might want to wait until next summer.
With me this week is Nick Meisner. He's the VP
of marketing for Discover green Bay.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Thanks for having me, Jess.
Speaker 1 (01:57):
So Nick, we're going to talk about a lot of
things the Green Bay and the green Bay area here
and give people a reason to come visit you. But
I know that just a couple of months ago you
had a massive event and to me, as someone who's
never been to Wisconsin before, green Bay is a football town, right,
But like to me, that's all that green Bay is like.
To me, green Bay is packers and cheese and maybe
that's about it. But you just had the NFL Draft there.
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So if the NFL is going to move a massive
event like the draft to green Bay, there's got to
be more than just the Packers because they want people
to have a good time when they're visiting that city.
So let's talk about that a little bit.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Yeah, first of all, you hit on a good point.
I think a lot of people kind of think that,
and that's fine, that's great. We love the Packers obviously,
you know, we are very lucky that you know they're here.
You hear so many stories of you know, teams moving cities,
and you know, the connection between the Packers and the
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city of Green Bay is something that's really really special,
and you know, it gives us an Internet brand, which
is great. But also, you know, somebody has to be
the smallest market in professional sports and it just so
happens to be us. But I like to remind people
that we are a city with a professional sports team.
So even though it's a big thing, it's it's you know,
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definitely our main attraction here in Green Bay, but there
is there's so much more to do where a vibrant
waterfront city that has tons to offer, regardless if you're
a football fan or not.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Not to harp on the sports thing, but I can't
think of many other cities in the country that only
have one team, you know, like I think Oklahoma City,
they only have one pro sports team as far as
I'm aware, But there's not many that I can think
of that only have the one professional team. So that
there's something kind of special about that that Green Bay
still holds on to that football team when there's you know,
usually these teams like you mentioned are jumping to bigger
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markets or or they're congomerating somewhere else. That's kind of
special that Green Bay has been able to hold on.
Speaker 2 (03:51):
Yeah, and you know, you go back in the history
of it, and you know, you look at it now
in the NFL is a billion dollar enterprise, billions of dollars,
and they run an incredible business and the people there
are amazing. But if you travel back in time, the
city of green Bay saved the people of green Bay,
I should say saved the Packers butts. They do those
stock sales for a reason. You know, the team was
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about to go under and be no more, and the
community stepped up. They got sponsorship from local businesses to
stay in town. And so you know, you look at
that and the team and the community are really woven
really tightly together. And it just so happened that by
staying here in green Bay, the grand, the brand, and
the stadium grew so much that we extend that community
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to Packers fans across the globe who come to Green
Bay for games or just to see the field. So
you know, it's it's definitely a unique situation. Actually, I
would highly recommend the book The Greatest Story in Professional Sports.
It's a great kind of synopsis of how and why
the Packers are still here in our city.
Speaker 1 (04:55):
I do have a couple of family members that are
part owners of the Packers, so it is something that
is a part of my family as well. I am
not You gotta get on that, Nick, What's going on?
Speaker 2 (05:04):
You live there?
Speaker 1 (05:05):
At everything?
Speaker 2 (05:06):
I know? You know, I live here, I go to games,
I support in every way that I can. But you know,
I'm just not cut out for ownership.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
I got that's too many decisions. Are you a Green
Bay native? Are you from the area originally?
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Yep, born and raised here in Green Bay. I actually
grew up about two blocks from lambeau Field. When I
was a kid, I would rade my bike down there
and give rides to players down to training camp. And yeah,
so you know, born and raised here. I love this city.
I love this region. You know, I've lived in a
couple different suburbs around the area now, so I've got
to experience a lot of what it has to offer.
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So yeah, it's a great place. You know, there's nothing
like summers in Green Bay and Wisconsin as a whole.
So I'm really enjoying the high tourism time right now.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
I love that you mentioned that. First of all, I
always think I shouldn't be surprised by it, but I'm
astounded at how many people in your position that I
speak with that are natives of the area they're representing. Right, Like,
I shouldn't be surprised because you have such a love
for your area you want to get people to come
visit it. But I guess, just the way jobs work now,
everyone's moving around for jobs. So I'm just always surprised
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how many natives are the people that are actually doing
the tourism stuff.
Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, it is. It's you know, you look around the
landscape and there is a lot of a lot of
us who are natives. There's also some who you know,
move to their positions, especially in bigger destinations. But this
is a dream job for me, you know. I get
to wake up every day, you know, come to work
and talk about the city and the region that I love.
And it's funny sometimes I tell my friends or my
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wife or whatever, Hey, so for work today, I gotta
go give a tour of Lambeufield and then I gotta go,
you know, eat, go, bring, you know, bring a group
of journalists to one of our many good restaurants Angelina's
for Italian or go to a steakhouse or whatever, grab
a Friday fish fryer, some cheese kurts to show off
our local cuisine. Maybe go to a show at the
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Meyer Theater. And they're like, that's not a you're just
having fun. I'm like, well, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
I kind of have a similar thing because I work
in radio. So, like you know, at the time that
we're recording this conversation, tomorrow night, we have a big
concert in our local area. I'm like, yeah, I gotta
go to work. I got to go hang out at
a concert with an A list band and just have
a good time. But that's work sometimes, you know.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
Yeah. I think it's good to have that perspective though,
because it's like we get tons of benefits, like like
you guys do in radio, to have these experiences and
do these things that you know, the big shows for
the NFL Draft, I had so many credentials around my
neck to get access to where. But you know, getting
that perspective of that it's not work and you just
get to enjoy your community, you know, like people who
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are visiting, I think is really helpful to put in perspective.
Speaker 1 (07:44):
Let's talk about some outdoor stuff because as you mentioned
summertime is beautiful in that area, and I think a
lot of people people sleep on how beautiful summertime can
be in the northern parts of this country. Like they
think snow, they think cold, they forget how awesome the
summer is. I'm from New England, so I I understand
that perfectly. So let's talk a little bit. Like I know,
I've got some notes here about some highlights in Green
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Bay and the Green Bay area. Let's talk about the
Green Bay Estuary and Research Reserve. That is a hard
thing to say, but I made it through it.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
It is it is. You nailed it. You nailed it.
We'll just go with ner for sure.
Speaker 1 (08:15):
Great.
Speaker 2 (08:17):
Yeah, Green Bay is a really beautiful spot in the summer.
I always like to joke that there was, you know,
one Sunday in January and the nineteen sixties and the
nickname frozen Tundra stuck. But contrary to popular belief, we
are not always cold. It's been in the eighties and
nineties here for the last eight nine months, and we've
been on the water, you know, been on the water
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and the Fox River and the Bay of Green Bay.
So the estuary is designated by Noah and they It's
kind of I compare it to the national parks. You know,
how people go around and they get their little National
Park badge and they try to get to every National park.
It's kind of the same with estuaries, but just with
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coastline and waterway. So the estuary in Green Bay is
the largest freshwater estuary in the world where the Fox
River and the Bay of Green Bay meat creating many
different flowages and rivers and creeks and streams and waterfalls
across the area, and there's a ton of natural benefits
for that migratory birds. We see almost every North American
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migratory bird come through because of the estuary. So it's
big for bird watchers, for nature lovers, kayakers, it's some
of the most beautiful kayaking scenery that you can find.
And also from an outdoorsman standpoint, it is one of
the best walleye fisheries in the world. So in the
spring and early summertime on the Fox River in the
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Bay of Green Bay, you'll just see hundreds of fishing
boats out there. In fact, we bought brought a fishing
crater in a couple of springs ago and had her
set up in a few of the hotspots and she
and I think it was her or fourth cast. It
was still the sun was still rising, and she caught
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her professional best walleye in her second or third cast
her first day here in green Bay. So from a
natural scenery standpoint, when you combine the estuary with the
Niagara Escarpment, it is really truly beautiful.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
I'm taking a look at a map of Green Bay
right now. As you were talking, I wanted to look
it up. And it's kind of cool that the Fox
River just kind of splits the city right in half,
which is something that you don't often see, which is
kind of a cool experience. It gives people that are
visiting a new I'm sure you have boat tours on
the Fox River there as well. Oh yeah, it looks
like the perfect setting for like I'm picturing Chicago almost
Obviously green Bay not as big as Chicago, but you yeah,
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you've got that river that runs right through that people
will hop on a boat and get a chance to
go out there and enjoy a nice afternoon out there.
Then you've got the Bay of green Bay right there.
I mean, I just that is such a cool like setup.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
You got, Oh hidden gem is Longtail Island. You take
your boat out to Longtail, it's like a beach sandbar. Yeah,
he's tied up all next to each other. Folks like
yourself are radio stations. Will even go out there and
play some and play some music and have DJs and
it's just a big party.
Speaker 1 (11:09):
And you've got this amusement park right there on the
water too.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
It looks like yeah, yeah, Bay Beach is actually one
of the oldest city run amusement parks in the world.
It's like you're stepping back in time. You know. You
walk up to the kiosk when you walk in and
you purchase your tickets, right, yeah, those are twenty five
cents wow a ticket, and then each ride is I
think the most expensive ride is six tickets, and that's
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the roller coaster, the Zip and Pippin. So I'll take
my family of four there. I'll throw a twenty down
and I'll have this mitful of tickets that's like, you know,
arms and arms and arms length, and we'll have three
four hours of pure fun at Baby Beach. And you
can get yourself a snow cone or some cotton candy,
maybe a soft pretzel, and get the full and there's
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rides for you know, toddlers up to adults, so you
can really make a fun day out of baby.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Gosh, it looks like so much fun, like I'm picturing.
It's funny. You have this space where it's in the
northern part of the country, northern Midwest. But it also
sort of has like almost like a beach vibe, like
you've got like a beach town sort of too. At
the same time.
Speaker 2 (12:14):
Yeah, you know, people don't think of the beaches when
they think of Green Bay, right, we do have tons
of tons of water front. If you travel just just
to the east, you'll find a little city called Algoma, Okay.
And if you look up, if you have your computer
in front of you and look up Crescent Beach, Algoma, Wisconsin,
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it looks like you're it looks like you're on a
beach at the at the ocean. I mean, the water
is beautiful blue, it's you know, tan sand beaches. They
have a kite festival there. Yeah, I saw your face.
Speaker 1 (12:50):
It just popped up. Oh my, this is beautiful, stunning,
like truly stunning.
Speaker 2 (12:54):
I love. And then in Green Bay when they're doing
the sailboat stuff that you can sit on the beach
and watch these colorful sailboats go by. Yeah beautiful.
Speaker 1 (13:03):
Gosh. Really, I mean, you're opening my eyes to so
many new things. Like I've I have friends, and I've
done some radio work with some of the stations in Wisconsin,
and it's been nice to be able to, you know,
kind of loosely experience Green Bay from like externally from
over here in Baltimore, Maryland. But wow, just like speaking
to you and looking at some of these pictures in
the maps, it's opening my eyes to this whole new place.
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Like I didn't. I never thought so much of this
about Green Bay.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah it is. It's a pretty spot. And you know,
we talked a little bit about, you know, the Packers
and Lambeufield. A lot of people think the Lambeoufield Stadium
District is like downtown green Bay. It's not. We have
a whole nother downtown just about three miles north of
where Lambo sits. Lambo has created this, you know, this
separate district and we call it the Stadium District or
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the title town District, whatever you know, you want to
call it, where there is a hub of live work,
play opportunities around the stadium and great dining and great
accommodations and all that. But if you go just three
miles north of the stadium a little bit, you'll find
a really vibrant downtown with theaters and public art and
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a river walk where there's live music every Friday, great
water front living apartments, a really cultural urban hub there.
On Wednesday nights they have a farmers Market, which is
more of a block party that goes on. Yeah, and
just programming all the time that that our districts are
doing in the downtown area. I would say that's where
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probably the best dining is in Green Bay is in downtown,
whether you're looking for you know, casual where you can
grab some cheese, curds and a burger all the way
to you know fine dining, steakhouses with eclectic chefs like Fusion,
or you know, more modern dining. You know, you can
find anything down there too. And there's tons of arts
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and entertainment theaters, you know, concerts, all that and all
that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
I know, if you go to a big major city
like say Chicago, which would be closer you, or like
New York or LA, that's where you're gonna find like
the Michelin Star restaurants and all that, Like, I get that,
but I find that the smaller cities, the places like
Green Bay or even Baltimore, Like, the smaller cities are
the places where you're gonna find some really eclectic and
exciting cuisine because I just the chefs that come into
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those areas, they love their area and they really want
to put on a show for the people that are there.
So I think places like Green Bay are the hidden
gems of like the best food in America.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
Oh oh yeah. And sometimes it's like you walk into
a place and it looks you know, you're like, oh,
this can't be you know that great and my favorite.
Speaker 1 (15:33):
Spot had those are the best places to go to.
Have you heard of No, I haven't, but that's in
my notes. I wanted to ask you about that because
it sounds very exciting.
Speaker 2 (15:44):
Yeah. Actually, Bouya is so green Bay. Actually, people from
Milwaukee and Madison and other places in Wisconsin don't even
know what it is.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Okay, if Bay it's just kind of like the uh
it's the Green Bay equivalent of Rochester's garbage plate? Is
that like kind of like different, different food, but like
it's your local thing that like no other place around
you has.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
Yeah, and it's a super fun name.
Speaker 1 (16:09):
Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2 (16:12):
So it dates back to the Belgian settlers that came here.
It's a very very hardy, very very hardy soup kind
of kind of dish. We actually I was in New
Orleans for the Super Bowl doing a activation to promote
Green Bay and we brought bouja and a lot of
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people compared it to like gumbo. So, but buya is
not a short process to make. You cook it over
an open flame in like a fifty gallon kettle, and
you use the whole chicken, right, You chop up the
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whole part, you know, all the meat from the chicken,
your veggies, your your chicken stock, and all of your seasonings,
and you let it stew for at least fourteen hours
and then it's ready to serve. So you'll see a
lot of churches and schools around here doing fundraisers where
they sell buya buy the ice cream pail, because you
do make it in such big batches. But every restaurant,
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every restaurant around Green Bay has their their version of bouia.
In fact, the restaurant at lambeau Field called nineteen nineteen
Kitchen and Tap, they have a buoya where they found
the recipe and it was dated like eighteen ninety something,
and they use that exact recipe to serve their buoya
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and they make it in the big batches and then
it's ready for you. So it's really a unique dish
that is really hyper green Bay. And there's some places
where it's their specialty. You know, a lot of places
you'll see like the soup of the day and then
they'll be like a chili. Here in Green Bay there's
soup of the day, chili and buoya many you know,
So it's definitely something you got to try when you
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come to our nick.
Speaker 1 (18:01):
You've mentioned cheese curds a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Scream pale. Oh, please buy an ice cream pail and
send it over.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Please do. I would love to try this. You've mentioned
cheese curds a couple of times in this conversation too,
And I would be remiss if we didn't talk about
cheese because it is Green Bay, after all, it's Wisconsin,
so we got to talk about cheese.
Speaker 2 (18:17):
Oh, for sure, it's the best cheese in the world,
of course. And yeah, and if you don't, you know,
I know I sound biased, but the cheesemakers around here
in Green Bay have literally won Best Cheese in the
World awards in Italy and in France and in lots
of places. I mean, agriculture is a massive, massive industry
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here in Wisconsin, and and we embrace it. We love
our agriculture, We love our farmers, and a lot of
our farms have really great, unique experiences. You can go
and tour some of the farms. Sometimes they'll have events,
lunch on the farm, breakfast on the farms that are
really great, especially if you know you're you're from a
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larger city like Chicago or Baltimore and don't have those
opportunities at your fingertips here in Green Bay. You could
be downtown Green Bay experiencing, you know, a show at
one of our theaters, and in ten minutes, you you know,
drive ten minutes you'll be out a breakfast on the farm.
So you really get a mix of the two. But
when it comes to the cheese, that's something that we're
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really really proud of. You know, it's I don't even
know how to explain it, because it's just not the
same when I go and get, you know, cheese somewhere else.
But cheese curds are really you know, the thing that
everyone knows and needs to try. And it's kind of
funny because cheese curds are actually a byproduct of the
cheesemaking process. It's the curds that kind of come off
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the cheese as it's as it's aging. And I know
there's cheesemakers out there screaming at me right now because
I'm explaining completely wrong. You know, you can eat them
in two different ways. The fresh cheese curds that you
can get when you go to any grocery store, they
actually squeak when you eat them, not raw, but you know,
you know, not deep fried and breaded, which is the
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other option, which almost makes it like a mini mozzarellistick,
but like way more flavorful with that, like rich cheddar flavor.
And then it usually comes with like a dipping sauce
like a ranch dressing or horse radish or marinara or
uh whatever restaurants spin they want to they want to
put on it, and everyone has a different style. Every
restaurant has a different style, so it's always up for
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debate as to where you can get the best ones.
So I'm gonna stay out of that conversation. I say,
come to Green Bay and try them all.
Speaker 1 (20:33):
Do you guys do poutine in Green Bay? Because I
feel like that would be a perfect fit with the
cheese curds.
Speaker 2 (20:37):
You know, there's some places that do poutine, but not
necessarily as like you won't find it all over you know, we'll, we'll,
we'll stick with the cheese without the gravy. Yeah, they
put the gravy on it because their cheese isn't good.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
Oh man, now you're gonna get me in trouble. Now
you're gonna get you know. Early in the conversation, you
mentioned something about niagaras the Niagara Escarpment. I'm so curious
to learn more about this.
Speaker 2 (21:04):
So the Niagara Escarment is the land formation that actually
does form the Niagara Falls, but it runs from Canada
down through Lake Michigan into Wisconsin and into our area.
Green Bays is fairly flat when it comes to topography.
You know, a lot of places that are as close
to the water as we are, you know, are are
more flat when it comes to the you know, surrounding
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the Gray Lakes. But the Niagara Escarment does provide some
topographical beauty and it's basically I wouldn't even it looks
more like a hill, a really big hill. I wouldn't
call it a mountain. But what it lacks in height,
it makes up for in depth and length. So it
runs through it completely runs through our county, and it
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creates a couple different things. First of all, hiking and biking.
You know, it's not it's not to the level of
hiking and biking on our trails as you would find
in you know, the expert level places like you know,
Colorado or Appalachia or anything like that. But it's a
great if you're not like a super great biker or
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are into like extreme hiking, it's a place that you
can easily find some great outdoor recreation opportunities. And believe
it or not that Niagara's Scartment creates a few different
waterfalls around Green Bay that are really really pretty. Actually,
there's one at Von Ferrick, which is a park in
southern the southern part of the Green Bay area that
you actually hike through the Niagara's Garment to get to
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and then you follow the river down to the waterfall.
There's actually a trail you can go behind the waterfall
and see it from behind. So it's a really cool spot.
Speaker 1 (22:39):
I love that you really do have a lot of
great outdoor opportunities as where you know, we're still midsummer here,
we're getting towards the end, which will then gear up
football season for all of you there in Green Bay.
I'm sorry that the Packers are playing Pittsburgh in Pittsburgh
this year and not in Green Bay, because I'm sure
fans will be very excited to go boo Aaron Rodgers
for a little bit.
Speaker 2 (22:57):
I think there'll be some booze. There may have been
some booze if he was coming to Green Bay, but
I think ultimately everyone respects what he did here.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
You know, I guess it's fair. You can't be mad
about that, I suppose, But Nick, I mean, just so
many incredible things. Where do people go if they want
to start planning their trip?
Speaker 2 (23:12):
The easiest place is green Bay dot com. Green Bay
dot com super easy to remember. That's where you'll find
all of the stuff that Discover green Bay has to offer.
There's itineraries, there's blogs, there's photos, videos, listings of all
the different places, dining, hotels, attractions, outdoor recreation.
Speaker 1 (23:32):
You can find it all there and good get by
the way of getting green Bay dot com. That's pretty awesome.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
Yo. So they had it before I got, before I started,
and I heard the story our ceo they actually bought it,
but weren't using it. They were using a different URL,
And like when my CEO started here twenty years ago,
he's like, we're switching that.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
Yeah, why wouldn't you green Bay dot com. It's rare
that a city can own like their own thing like that.
It's pretty cool.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Yeah, yeah, it's pretty sweet. We're we're lucky and fortunate
to have it. It sticks on the memory. You don't
even have to think about it, just green bay dot com. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
Well, Nick, I have really enjoyed this conversation. You've opened
my eyes to so many beautiful things about Green Bay
that I knew nothing about. And I hope people listening
will take an opportunity to spend some time in Green
Bay and make a visit. Nick Meisner, the VP of
Marketing for Discover green Bay, I really appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (24:21):
Man, Hey, thank you so much. Appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (24:24):
Big thank you to Nick Meisner. Again. Their website is
green Bay dot com. You can head there and start
planning your visit. And thank you to all of you
for listening to delightful destinations this week, I appreciate you.
I'm Jeff Saint Pierre. Until next week, be well,
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