April 21, 2025 • 43 mins
Ready to make your wardrobe work harder for you without breaking the bank? In this episode, Misty Lynch and guest Brie White dive into practical strategies for personal style, closet organization, and mindful spending.
Where to find Bri White
Where to find Misty
Websites:
Instagram: @mistylynchcfp
- The story behind Vostramota and why personal style matters
- How the concept of “StyleQuest” makes fashion fun and approachable
- Tackling closet clutter and the idea of “closet monsters” like guilt and shame
- Smart shopping tips: when to invest, when to declutter, and how to plan ahead
- Using your wardrobe as a tool for self-discovery and confidence
Where to find Bri White
- Website: vostramoda.com
- LinkedIn: @vostra-moda-llc
- Instagram: @vostra_moda
Where to find Misty
Websites:
Instagram: @mistylynchcfp
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Demus Defying Money podcast, where each week
you will hear unforgettable conversations with expert guests about success, money, business,
and small steps you can take to elevate.
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Your life and wealth.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now here's your host, Misty Lynch.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hello everyone, thank you so much for joining me for
this episode of Demas Defying Money. I am joined by
my friend Free White. She is a returning guest. She
is the founder of Bostramota and she is I love
I have to read it because I was on her
website and I love all the rebairnings she's done. Soramota
is a queer, nerd forward personal styling company that helps
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purpose driven folks embrace their unique style superpowers. I think
that is just such a lovely way that you captured
your business. We're going to talk today about, well, it's
spring time, a lot of people are looking at their
closets and a lot of people are thinking about, you know,
where they're going to put some of their budget and
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what they want to do. Some people are returning to
the office for the first time, some people for the
first time in years. So I thought it'd be fun
to talk with her today about, you know, style fascist
things that can be a little bit overwhelming, a little
bit people might think that they can't afford them. But
how we can start to incorporate some of her techniques
and ideas that she uses with her private clients into
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our own lives. So thank you Bree so much for
joining me today.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thank you so much for having me back. It's a
pleasure to be here.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
This episode of Demystifying Money with Misty Lynch is proudly
sponsored by Soundview Financial Advisors. Visit www dot Soundview financial
Advisors dot com to learn more.
Speaker 3 (01:42):
For are the people who might just start tuning into
this show, Can you share a little bit about your
journey r Mostmota and kind of what led you to
want to create this this brand in this company that
focuses on people in their personal style.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Absolutely so. I've always loved fashion. I think in times
past when I've been on I've joked that it all
started with having a dress up box when I was
a kid and rearranging how things were supposed to be
styled to make it more creative and fun for my needs.
And that's something that's just stuck with me for years.
I did work in nine to five for many years
and it was during that time during COVID that I
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realized that I missed creativity and I missed working with
people one on one because I was doing a lot
of behind the scenes work. I was doing a lot
of admin work, which you know end result and ended
up helping me a ton in starting my business and
knowing how to basically do all the admin work that
comes along with owning your own business. But I just
missed people and being able to see progress and how
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I could help them to really find themselves and find confidence.
I'm a huge sensitive person and an empathizer, and so
I have always felt very strongly about helping people to
feel their best, whether that's just being a listening ear
or being able to give them advice when they needed it.
And I've always had an I for style according to
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my family and friends, and so it all kind of
merge together in this world of how do we help
people to feel good about themselves with something they have
to do every day, which is get dressed. I have
a background in modeling and costume and cosplay as well,
just for fun, and that I think helped me combine
my ideas of well, how do you dress for the
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day to day, but also what happens when it's easier
to dress in a costume than it is to dress
as yourself. And that's kind of when I rebranded my
business about a year and a half ago. That was
a big thing that came to mind for me because
I had a blog for ten years for nobody other
than myself really and maybe a couple of friends, where
I would just make costumes and show cosplays I created
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from what I owned or things that I've found while
I was thrifting, because I just wanted that creative outlet
and to show people, hey, you don't have to spend
a ton of money, or you don't have to spend
a ton of time if you don't have it to
create something fun. But I think when it's easier for
you to dress as a different character than it is
to figure out who you are, that's a big sign
of it's time to or that a little bit more
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and figure out how do you become the main character
of your own life.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I think that is such an interesting concept, and I
because I know I'll talk to people who you know,
maybe as soon as they pop on a zoom call,
they apologize because they're underdressed. Or they feel like they
don't put any effort into what they're wearing, and it's
starting to, like you said, almost feel like a costume,
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Like this is my and it's kind of who I am.
And then I know some people who can like throw
on a blazer and they're a new person. They are
now ready to you know, to dominate. And so it's
interesting because I never really thought about it as like
for you know, costume things like that, but in it
is kind of every day we're choosing how we're going
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to be out there in the world and people are
noticing and observing, so and I think it's really it's
a really fascinating concept. So and it also is a
bit it's a bit fun when you're thinking about it
this way because I think a lot of us just
kind of we do the same thing every day or
really close to it, and I feel like fashion, food,
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all of those things that we do every single day
in this impacts things financially as well. We might not
be thinking about it as much after a certain time.
So it is really kind of that awareness that you're
bringing to people about the choices that you're making. So
I wanted to I wanted to talk with you kind
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of on this subject about style quests. This is a focus,
you know, for your content, and I think you know,
I have a little gamer at home who's about twelve
years old, and so I think it's fun because when
you think about a style quest, tell me about how
you kind of how you transform the way people approach
their wardrobe with that concet.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, so the concept was style quests. Again, it kind
of lends itself to how I used to do things
when I would make costumes and cosplays and kind of
creating characters but making it your own. It's like, how
do you go into this thing with a inspiration from something,
but then you make it yours, whether it's because you
can't go out and buy all the pieces for it,
or you have something similar and you're like, but I
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like wearing it this way better instead. So it kind
of came from that world, and I figured instead of
just doing a newsletter where I gave just playing fashion
tips that are based on the season, which is fine
and I definitely do include like seasonal fashion tips in
what I do, but to make it more specific, to
make it more fun, because I really want to make
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fashion fun for people again, instead of dreading it when
they open their closet door. It's like, again, how do
you use this to your advantage? How do you level
up your life using your wardrobe? How do you become
the main character of your own story? Well, every adventure
starts with a quest, right, maybe it's a side quest,
but there's still got to be things that you do
to help you get better and practice. And so what
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better way than to turn it into a style quest
where I give people a key challenge for the week
based on their wardrobe. Sometimes it's based around a costume
or a character or book or video game or movie,
because again, I think those are things that people can
relate to, and it feels a little less scary than
being like, go put on the outfit that makes you
feel the best, and they're like, well, I I don't
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know what that is. I just don't figure that out yet.
And it's like, well, this might be a way to
help you through that. So, for example, this last week,
because it was the change from winter to spring, the
official first day of spring happening and all that, instead
of just saying, hey, let's talk about spring inspired wardrobe,
I was like, how do I make this interesting to people?
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I want you to take Hades and Persephone if they
were people, now turn them into an outfit because there's
that mythology, and you know, there's a lot of books
out there and stuff like the romantic fantasy books that
are based around that. There's some video games that star
Hades as the main character, and so it's bringing those
different communities together and being like, oh, well, it's not
just Spring, but like there's a certain character to this
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that maybe I embody more of this and I even
share it in my posts. I was like, I don't
have a lot of spring colors personally, like I tend
to have more dark and dramatic colors in my wardrobe.
I tend to have a lot more structured and interesting
pieces and not quite as many flowy pieces. So it
was even a challenge for me in creating this for
other people to be like, ooh, I don't have a
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lot of Persephony inspired pieces. It's mostly Hades, But how
do I combine these to create something unique to me
and just play with the idea. And for me, a
big part of that was I don't own a lot
of florals. I think I have one floral item which
I've used like three times now in past videos because
that's what I have for florals, but it's allowing me
to see for myself, maybe I want to explore bringing
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more prints or patterns into my own wardrobe, and hopefully
it's doing the same for other people. Where during these
challenges where it's nothing too wild or crazy, you know,
I let people know here's an easy mode, here's a
hard mode, like do as you feel comfortable, but just
push yourself a little bit to try something new. They
might learn through the experience. Oh you know what, this
wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Maybe
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I do want to branch out a little bit and
try something that's different than I normally would, And so
I try to help people embrace these new ways of
trying things and just stepping outside of their comfort zone
without judgment and hoping to build a community around it
where again we're trying it into things that are fun
and hopefully, you know, fan based, because I think for
all of my nerds out there, it's like when you
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find a fandom that you love, you can't help but
talk about it. So hopefully I'm hitting all of these
different fandoms through these different style requests that allow people
to really embrace the things that they love in life.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think that's I think it's a great way to
get people to be more creative because, like you said,
a lot of times we don't really put much thought
into it, or we do the same thing all the time,
or we're really bored with our fashion. We don't think
about it that much. It's not something that is interesting.
And I'll I have my cousin's she posted something recently
about like time to take my winter black clothes and
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replace them with my spring black clothes. And I get
I think that there is something that's nice about being
simple and the same. But I love that you're actually
putting a challenge towards it. And it might not be
like you have to dress like, you know, a fairy
princess in the spring, But what do you have what
because we probably I don't know the exact percentage, but
we don't use one hundred percent of our closet.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I think it's eighty percent of our wardrobe and
we only wear twenty percent of that, Like it's a
very minor amount. I want to say, it's like you
only really wear twenty percent of your entire wardrobe? Is
what it comes down to, which is wild to think
about when you're like, how much of my closet is
full of stuff that I don't wear? And why don't
you wear it? I think that's the question that I
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really try to get my clients to ask themselves, as
why don't I wear this? What's the reason? And if
there's a legitimate reason and you should keep it for
some reason, then create But if it doesn't make sense
for you to keep it, why is it taking up space? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, I think And I saw something and I think
it was it was after the fires in California where
one of their tips was to grab your line and
basket because that is what you wear the most, that's
going to be your favorite thing. And I was thinking
about that, and I was thinking about you. In my
kids rooms and stuff, they have a ton of things
in their drawers and they will wait until that is
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clean or we have to immediately do laundry because those
are the things that they wear. And I'm guilty of
it too, But it is something that's really interesting when
you think about cluttered space and like how much stuff
we might have, but we're really only using a piece
of it. So I wanted to maybe see if we
can talk about your concept of like closet wealth, what
does that mean, what can we do to feel better
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about that?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, I think one of the things I talk about
closet monsters, and I think that leads us to kind
of closet wealth. And so again leaning into the gaming
aspect of things, you've always got these monsters that you
have to fight when you're on an adventure, and that
helps you to get that practice in to level up.
And I think for everybody they have different closet monsters. So,
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for example, we were just talking about how you know,
you might only wear twenty percent of your stuff, but
you've got a closet full of clothes. Maybe the closet
monster is you've got a guilt goblin. A guilt goblin
might be, Oh, you've got that piece in there that's
shoved all the way in the back that still has
a tag on it, and you can't let it go
because you paid full price for that and you still
haven't worn it, and so you feel guilty about the
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fact that you never wore it and that's why it's
still there. But every time you look in the closet
and you don't choose to wear that the guilt goblin
comes up, and then you have to face that, and
you have to decide each time that happens, am I
going to feel guilty for this? Or am I going
to make a decision of if I don't wear it
by this point, I'm either going to give it to
a family member or a friend, I'm going to consign
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or donate it, or I'm going to wear it with
a purpose. I'm going to find a way to use this.
I'm going to plan it out, because otherwise you're just
gonna have to keep facing this monster. But if you
don't decide to do anything, it just lives there and
it's taking up brain space and it's taking a closet space,
but there doesn't need to and that's frustrated. And I
think everyone has different closet monsters. But that's a big
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win that I think a lot of people can relate to.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I think that people also have the I'm going to
fit back in this again someday shame monster.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, yeah, because I think there's a lot of times
where we have these things or you know, maybe we
used to work in an office, maybe you know, maybe
you had suits that you had to have and you
don't need them anymore, but it's that, well, what if
at some point need it? And then I wonder sometimes
when I got rid of a lot of things, am
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I going to want to wear that if I ever
need to again? Or is it like fifteen years old
and not my favorite?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah? Yeah, And it's a really great question because I
think when that does come up, for a lot of people,
it's that fear of but what if it's kind of
the fomo of your closet, like what if I miss
out on something I already spent money on this and
what if I have to find something new again. But
for a lot of folks once they start going through
their items, once we started that first session, our session zero,
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going over what do you want from your clause? Like
what are you looking for from your closet? Because your
clothes should work for you usually enough to work for
your clothes, What does that look like for you? What
does that feel like for you? What are words that
you want to feel empowered by when you're wearing pieces
and you have people think of those words when they
look at you or you look in the mirror and
you think those words about yourself. For a lot of
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folks if they tried those pieces on right now, it
wouldn't match up anymore, because maybe at one point those
it did make sense. Maybe they had different words that
was like, yeah, I wanted to be really professional and
I wanted to be seen as very mature and confident
and very structured. But maybe over time that's not who
you are anymore, and so the words don't quite match.
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And that's why the clothes don't quite fit that goal.
And there's nothing saying that you can't go and find
another suit or you can't find something that as that
same professional mentality to it that you want to embrace,
but maybe it's not quite as strict. Maybe there's a
little bit more flow to it, and it feels a
little bit more welcoming or approachable, because that's something that
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you've evolved into. We evolve our clothes to evolve with us.
And I think a lot of people are afraid of
letting go because we put so much emotion and nostalgia
into our material items, especially our clothing. I don't know
how many women can look back at one piece and
be like, I wore that on my first date, or
I remember wearing this when I got that raise like
we have these very specific memories about things, and that
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also makes it hard to let go. So sometimes you
just need that approval of it's okay, You're allowed to
appreciate those moments. You can hold onto those memories, but
you don't have to hold on to the piece if
it's not helping you anymore. And I think that helps
you to expand your closet wealth because you're being really
intentional about what you have going on and when you
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are more focused on I think it's the idea of
you don't need to have more things. You don't need
to have quantity of things. You need to have quality
of things. And that doesn't have to mean it needs
to be luxury price items. That's not what quality means.
Quality means what's going to be the most versatile for you?
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What are you actually going to get the most use
out of, what's going to be the eighty percent of
your closet that you wear instead of the twenty percent. Like,
that's closet wealth. That's utilizing your resources to the absolute
fullest of their extent and not focusing on well, but
I have all of this stuff already and so that
should be fine, right, Well, none of you don't wear it.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, now I think that I like that concept, and
you're spot on when you talked about, you know, how
something used to maybe make you feel like when I
first started out in finance, I wanted to I avoided
anything you know, feminine at all. It was structured professional
like black maybe like lots of you know, lots of suits,
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lots of and I mean I think that felt like
when we talked about the costume, like that to me,
I am like serious businesswoman and everyone's going to treat
me that way, and nobody's gonna recognize that I'm a
woman in a male space. And so it's kind of like,
at this point, it doesn't have my plan anymore. That
is not the goal. You know. I feel like I
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don't pick those pieces up that often anymore. And so
when I've been getting up rid of things in my closet,
either by thrifting them or selling them, I want somebody
to find that that needs that. But it's not me anymore,
you know, like somebody might be going on that interview
or that something and need it. So I think it's
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I think it's an interesting concept to kind of like
not you know, to recognize it, but then also to
be able to part with things.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That's a huge thing. And I think the fact that
you just mentioned it is perfect too. And it's something
I've brought up with clients to have a hard time
letting go of pieces is don't think of it as
you're getting rid of some thing and what if I
need this and I never get it back. Think of
it as you don't use it often, and somebody else
who really needs that, who gets to experience and enjoy
it the way that you did at one time, Like
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you just gave it a new life with this person
who really wants or needs it, and they will appreciate
it so much. And you may not know them personally,
but imagine if you did. Imagine if it was you know,
a sister or a friend or a cousin that you
were giving this to because you knew they had an
interview coming up. How good would it make you feel
for them to come back and be like, I felt
so good I looked on point I got the job.
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I'm so glad that I had this item because it
made me feel so confident. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Just imagine that, but with potentially a stranger who gets
to appreciate it and value your item, and that also
has caused wealth. Is your mindset around it?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, And I think sometimes when I'll look at items
and you know, there's a lot of different ways to
even to sell things like maybe as something maybe you
did pay full price for something, and it's like I
can't just put the in a bag and put it
in in somewhere like you can. You know, turning things
back into money financially feels great. It almost gives you
that same dopamine hit as spending money on something. And
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so I feel like there are now like different ways
for you to you know, sell something online or sell
it to like an upscale online through store or something
like that, to really you know, get it again out
of your space, but then turn it back into money
or credit where you could get something new that you.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Have your eye on.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
So I think that that can be kind of takes
the sting out of letting go, but also kind of
feels great and it's over.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
It's I think it's cathartic too, because again, when you're
clearing out that space and you can see what we
already have, a lot of times people don't even realize
the things that they own and what they can do
with it, because there's just too much for them to
even see and they get so overwhelmed by the options.
Option overwhelmed is such a real thing, even when it
comes to what's going on in your closet and then
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clearing out that space you have a better idea of
what you want to be wearing or what you actually need.
Like sometimes you have to go through and clear things out,
so you could be like, oh, do you know what
I'm missing? I'm missing a pair of black pants like
that would actually get me really far and I'd be
able to use it in a lot of ways. And
yet for some reason, I don't have any. Why don't
I have any? I'm going to get all of the
power suits out of the way and just get a
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pair of good black dress pants that will go with anything.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, and it's hard to under it's hard to know
what those things are. You're not kind of going back
or it could lead to overspending, and maybe you just
keep buying things that you maybe already have or you
have a very close version of So I'm curious from
your perspective, if people maybe don't want to spend, maybe
they want to be a little bit more intentional with
their budget or they're you know, they're the cost of things.
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Are there things that you think maybe are worth investing in,
or ways that they can have their current wardrobe work
a little harder for them without that constant feeling of
I need to go get this. I need to go
get this. I saw on TV or Instagram and I
want to go get it. How can we do more
with what we've got? And you recognize those things that
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maybe would be worth spending some money on.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Absolutely. I think one of the ways that I like
to help people get their minds around this idea and
really focus in on how can I be more intentional
with my wardrobe with what I have is to pose
the idea of meal prepping your closet, okay, And I
think for some people that are like, well, I know
what meal prepping is, but what's meal prepping my closet?
And it's the same sort of premise. Right for folks
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who meal prep, you take a day, you batch everything
for lunches or dinners, and then you don't have to
make it during the week. It's already thought about and
ready to go, and all you have to do is
the day of you take your item out, you pack it,
and then you're done. It's that easy. And I think
you can do the same thing with your closet, right
You can mail prep your closet and ways that you
would do that is one you would look in your
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closet and see what you actually have in there. That's
the first start for everything. Is like you have to
actually take some time and figure out what do I own,
what's going on in here? What do I actually wear.
Some people will use things like the hanger technique to
see what they're actually using, and that's where you put
hangers in one direction and then as you wear pieces,
you flip the hangar around and then at the end
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of the season or whatever timeline you set for yourself,
you can see what you've actually been wearing, and for
the pieces that you haven't been wearing, it's a good
indicator of maybe it's time to let go of this,
or maybe I need to be more purposeful and find
a way to wear this. I usually recommend that if
you're shopping or even when you're looking at a piece,
see if you can come up with three different outfits
for it before you either purchase the item or before
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you decide to get rid of it, and that allows
you to see if it has versatility, and if it doesn't,
then it's not a good fit for you, and it's
a good opportunity to either let it go or not
buy it. The second thing with kind of meal prepping
your closet, looking at your outline for the week really
and seeing like what do I have going on, so
that you can pull items together and be prepared for
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your week and go, Okay, these are outfits that I need,
know I want to wear it this week. And again
it's allowing you to see, I'm going to pull everything
ahead of time and see what I need to wear.
If I've got this really big meeting that I want
to feel confident, I'm going to want these specific pieces.
Do I have them available? Are they at the dry cleaner?
Are they in the laundry? Are they hidden in a
pile somewhere? Like it makes you more conscious of what
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you have going on in your closet, and you're starting
to almost keep track of what you're using and what
you're using it for, so you know, when you've got
these special events, you gravitate towards these pieces more than
the casual days. You gravitate towards these, so it's showing
you what am I actually using in my closet on
a day to day basis or for special events, because
we always say, well, I'll keep that for a special event,
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but then how often do we actually wear it when
there is a special event. So it shows you am
I using that piece even for special events? And if not,
well maybe I don't need that. I need something more
like these pieces. And then I also recommend that looking
at the weather for the week is really important because
again we live in New England where it's thirty in
the morning seventy in the afternoon. Layers are going to
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be a big part of that, and I think some
people get overwhelmed by the idea of layers, but it's
actually a great way to show you how you can
use things throughout the entire year. I think it's actually
a benefit for us because you want your outfit to
work regardless of if you're on the base layer for
when it's the warmest out, or you have multiple layers
to keep you warm because it's cold out. You want
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the outpit to work regardless of which part of the
layers you have on or off, And it shows you
how to use pieces interchangeably with each other, so as
you get to colder weather, you know, oh, well I
just layered this and this on top of this lighter piece.
I could probably do that but with these heavier pieces instead.
So you're starting to see how do I mix and
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match my pieces, not just for right now, but potentially
for the rest of the year. So you're getting a
better pulse on how can what I have work for
me in the future too, not just right now in
this moment.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I think that it's such a great because anytime that
you put intention behind something, or you plan ahead, and
this is when people, you know, meal plan or they budget,
and I think that that's something that happened because if
we don't, we tend to do the easiest thing the
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least painful, which might be you know, grabbing what I
normally wear and then getting out the door. And so
when we are running late in the morning, we're stressed
when we don't know what the weather's going to be
like when we wake up and all of a sudden
it's cold. I think that if you have that planned out,
it just again makes things easier, right, and it means
that you're going to use more of the things that
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you own, because if you don't, just like with meal prepping,
if you're not planning a hud, you're going to order
the pizza, You're going to do whatever is convenient or
it provides the most pleasure, which might not be like
the most comfortable outfit that you own, or you know.
I think it's such a it's such a good point.
Anytime that we want to change something, what we have
to do first is decide that we're going to be
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more intentional, that we're going to put more effort into
making these changes until they become a habit, and then
that becomes something that you just normally do. So at
first it might feel a little bit strange, but after
a while you might see there are things that you
really do like there's things that you really don't reach
for because you're making those decisions ahead of time and
it doesn't take too long.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, it looks at the time.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
See what you've got going on this week. Okay, I'm
going to be in the school this day, and I'm
going to be in a meeting this day. So knowing
kind of where where you're going to be even just
a week or a few days ahead of time can
have you make better choices, and.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It also it limits that what you were talking about
were like, you're already probably rushing in the morning to
get everyone else ready, and then there's no time for you,
and then your panic dressing and you're like, I didn't
want to wear this, and now I'm wearing this for
the day. So it's taking that out of the picture,
because if you've already planned out, you know what's going
on in this week, you know the weather, You've put
your outfits together in the closet in some fashion. Again,
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much like if you're grabbing your container out of the fridge,
you're grabbing your outfit kit, you know, and then you're
good to go because you know you're wearing this on
this day and this on this day, and if you
need to add layers, you will be aware of that
because you've already checked the weather for you know, the
next couple of days. We know it changes pretty quickly,
but like you have a general sense of what's expected
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and what you need, so you're not rushing in the
morning and then making decisions unintentionally and then feeling like, ugh,
I did it again. Oh I had no time for myself.
I hate wearing this. I keep wearing the same three
things and I don't want to because I have all
of this wardrobe that I could be wearing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
No, And I think it's it's funny because we all
do it. But if you do kind of put that
plan ahead, I think that you might, yeah, even with
layers like you said, because sometimes we might be like, oh,
I'm freezing, like I'm freezing in my office, or I
would have taken a walk today, but I don't have
the right outfit on the right shoes, and that can
lead us to like not read some of our other
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goals that we might have or do some of the
things you might want to do. And I mean, I
don't know. I mean unless you're a kid in middle school,
like where jackets and shorts are jackets are the worst
and you should ever wear them, and shorts are always required.
I feel like most of us have better ideas or
better things that we could put together, so we're kind
of ready for it. And my friend when she lived
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in Seattle said that there's no bad weather, just bad outfits,
and I was like, yeah, you should be able to
like have the right things to go for that walk
or go to lunch or go show up somewhere and
feel fine. So it's really just we kind of might
get a little bit lazy when it comes to all
of the things in our lives that take up mental space.
(28:39):
So I love the thought of doing this ahead of time,
planning out your week, even if it's just a little challenge.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, And I think going back to what we talked
about a little bit before too, of if you want
to be more conscious of your spending habits and budgeting
and things like that, something that I think people don't
talk about but they should and something they should do.
I'm apparently big on food analogies today, but I think
that you should also make a shopping list for your clothing,
the same way that you would when you go grocery shopping.
(29:06):
Because if you think about going to the grocery store
when you're hungry without a shopping list, what do you
end up doing? You end up getting the stuff that's
on the end cap. You're walking through the out of
the outside of the store, and all of a sudden
you're in the bakery and the doughnuts are on sale,
so you grab those, and you grab these, and then
all of a sudden you get home, and one you've
spent your full allotted budget for groceries, but two you
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don't actually have any meals for the week, but you
got a lot of really good snacks, but that doesn't
help you in your day to day. And it's the
same thing when you go shopping for clothes. A lot
of times we go in without a plan or an
idea of what we actually need or what we want
to look for, and well, yes, it can be great
to stumble across these really unique fines. A lot of
times it's not the one off find, it's the well
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it was on sale, so I bought it because it
was on sale. And guess what, that's the one that's
still sitting in the back of your closet with the
tag still on it because it didn't make sense for
you to have and you didn't take a little bit
of time to picture. Could I wear this in three
different ways? Could I actually see myself using this with
things I have at home? And just that little bit
of preparation ahead of time is actually going to save
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you significant money. And also like mindset pain later when
you're like, hmm, I just created new closet monsters for
no reason, right, because I didn't take the time to
prepare myself. Yeah. No.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
And I think there are a lot of times where
even and I'll see with some people, you know, when
we're looking at spending and we're looking at especially when
the shopping category gets to be larger or they feel
you could tell that they're feeling some kind of way
about it, like it's not uh oh, yeah, that's what
I spend each month on clothes and it's fine. It's like,
oh my god, I shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I know.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And usually it's not that they're shopping because it's something
that they wrote down on a list that they know
that they need. It is I am doing this to
go feel better quickly, And that is just buying stuff
that you may already own. It might be stuff that
you don't know where you're ever going to wear it. It
might be stuff that was a good deal, so it
feels like a win. Yeah, And it doesn't feel great
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when the credit card bill comes and you have to
go pay for it, as opposed to when you know
you need something. My sister doesn't shop very often, but
she came out here recently. She's like, I need jeans.
Her jeans were about to fall apart, and so we
went specifically out shopping for jeans. She found a great deal,
she got like three pairs or something, and it felt
like this was very intentional and necessary. Now, granted, she
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did throw on her old jeans again like the next day,
and I'm like, what do you do? She's like, I
can't wear them just yet, they're so new, and I
was like, the opposite brand new stuff, I'm throwing it
right on. So it was just funny, but it felt like, yeah, no,
this was actually planned and she got what she needed.
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She's not going to look at that expense later on
with any guilt or any remorse because it was so
thought out ahead of time that it just wasn't impulsive.
So yes, I feel like that can be really helpful
for people. If you know your spending, if you know
your triggers, maybe you maybe you build you know, a cart,
you don't hit spend right away, you know, and then
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you wait and see, can you go through do you
have anything like it? Do you know where you're gonna
wear it? Do you you know? Do you have a
plan for it? And if you do, okay, maybe that
purchase is a good one. If you don't maybe you
just remove it or save it for later or some time,
because it can add up, and it's it's definitely something
that can become a really sneaky habit or for that
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dopamine hit of getting something new.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Absolutely, And I think people joke all the time about
you know whoa but it's just it's my feel good Like,
oh what do we do when we're sad? We click
add to Kart and it's like no, no, no, no,
Like there's so many potential issues with that because again,
then it's you're just buying it and you're not using it,
and then you're creating this bad cycle for yourself of
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you start losing yourself in the process too, because you're
buying things that don't make sense, and then you're like, well,
what if I want to actually wear this thing? Doesn't
fit my style or my needs or my wants, and
I just don't know why I have it, and then
I feel guilty for having it, and then that cycle continues,
so you buy new things to make you feel better.
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I was speaking with somebody recently, a reporter about gen
Z and about doom spending and about how people feel like,
you know, I'm not gonna be able to afford real
estate or something like that, and so they think of
their big goals and they push them aside for little,
small rewards and treats. And I get it because I
get that feeling that, you know, that patience of saving
up for something that's maybe maybe an expensive item that
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you might feel like, I would wear this every I'd
use this every day. I would love it, but it's
it's going to take a while to get there. That
delayed gratification usually is how you win, how you succeed
over time, but it can be frustrating when it feels
like all these things are out of reach or there's
so much going on in the world that's stressful, and
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what's the point. I'll just do what makes me happy today.
So it is it is something that I think a
lot of people face gen Z all over the place,
you know, to feel that that way. So I love
that you're kind of helping people kind of really connect
to their things. And the last question I have is
style is it's like a deeply personal idea.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
How do you help people overcome those like doubts or
limiting beliefs When it comes to embracing like an authentic style,
because it might always feel off if you are, like,
if you're trying to be like what.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
You're seeing, but it's not you. How do you help
people with that? And what can what can our listeners
do to kind of use you know, use their fact,
use what they've got in their closets as kind of
like a path to that that self discovery that we
talked about before.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, I think one of the first things that I
work on with clients is we kind of die into
their mindset a little bit. We do a deep dive
on what inspires you, what do you admire? Who are
people that you admire in fact? And it throws people
off a lot of times because I'll be like, this
isn't actually a style of related question. I'm not saying
(35:15):
you can't say somebody is a person who admire because
of their style, but I want to know more like
is it their personality? Is it their contributions to society?
Is it their activism? Is they're funny? Is it they're
a sensitive and loving person? What about these people that
I have them list out do you admire and why?
(35:36):
And as they start talking through that, there tends to
be similarities between the multiple people that they tell me,
and so I'll kind of point them back to it
and be like, what trends or similarities do you see
amongst these people? And when they start poking around and
finding them, I say, is that something that you want
in your life? Do you want to be? Like that?
Is that something you're working towards right now? And most
(35:57):
of the time it's well, yeah, I would love to
be seen this way, like, well, I've actually been like
kind of working on my confidence or I've been working
on putting myself out there more in this way. And
it's like, great, you realize that we tend to be
on this trajectory and we want to surround ourselves with
these people, whether or not they're people that we can
physically surround ourselves with, or we just we watch them
or we read their content, or you know, we want
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to just surround ourselves the idea of them because we
want to be making that momentum and we want to
reach those goals ourselves. So of course you want to
surround yourselves with people that you admire. A lot of
times that ties into our style, because style is more
than just the visual components. It's more than just the
image that you put on. You can take a blazer
(36:41):
and say this blazer is bold, you know, a style word,
but it's not a confident blazer. But you can feel
confident when you put it on. So it's the idea
of we take those admiration words that really resonate, and
then we say, how can you turn those into your style?
Style words stick out to you things that are the
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visual components of how you want to look. But how
do you want to feel, how do you want other
people to see you? How do you want to see yourself?
And all of those things blend together to create kind
of your personal brand and the way that you want
to express yourself in this visual identity. And so that
can be the first step for a lot of people
to recognize what's actually important to me. What are some
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of my values maybe that I haven't sat back and
thought about. How do I translate that to this is
the type of person I want people to see when
they look at me, This is what I want to
put out in the world. How can I start doing that? Well.
Clothing is a great example of that because it's a
great conversation starter, it's a great connector. It's one of
those things where when you walk in a room without
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saying a word, within seven seconds, people have made an
assumption about you and they've decided what type of person
you are. What are you saying without speaking when you
walk into a room, and what do you want to
be saying? Do they match up? So, helping people to
create style words for themselves that can be a really
great way to start them on that journey. And then
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they can take that and go into their own closet.
And I'll have folks do a closet audit and will
either do it together or have them do it on
their own. You take those words and as you look
through the pieces that you have, and if you haven't
worn something in a while, try it on and then
really ask yourself, does this match with these words? I've created,
these goals. I have this person that I'm becoming or
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I'm on the track to be, because if not, you've
outgrown that piece. It's maybe a past version of you.
But you want to be heading in this direction and
evolving as a person. And like I said at the beginning,
our clothing it evolves with us because our style changes,
because our mindset changes, because we take in new things
and we grow as people. So why wouldn't the other
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things in our life be affected by that? And it's
okay to let go of the person who was to
become the person who is.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, now I think that it's so important for us
to think of it. Yes, it's not always like getting
more expensive or getting more like it could be. Okay,
I had a very stiff, buttoned up bardrobe then because
that's what I wanted. But now I want to be
more approachable. I want to feel more effortless. I want
these things, and then figuring out like is that this
(39:15):
yeah or not? And so that sometimes when you're putting
things through that lens might be easier to say, okay,
I can part with this now or gifted or thrift
it versus Oh, but what if I'm hurt again? What
if I have to do this? Because then we can say, okay,
we're making space in our closet, we're not overspending, and
when we do need something different, we can go get it.
(39:38):
It's very smart to look at things that way and
to help people with that mental piece of it, because
sometimes we do get lost. Sometimes we do kind of
not really know. I know when I had young you know,
when my children were younger, I was wearing it like
I didn't feel necessarily put together because it was like
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I was constantly you know, nursing or holding some and
so it was just interesting to think about, like, okay,
now after that piece, do I stay in this lane
or do I not want to? And trying to figure out, okay,
who's this? What is the call now?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
What do I like? Now?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Who do I look at now? And think for whatever
reason I like that? We don't know normally all those
things are are done, you know, subconsciously, So bringing those
to the forefronts so smart. What's next for you this year?
What have you been working on? And how can people
you know learn more about you? What do you what's new?
First string for you? This year?
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I have been doing a lot more workshops and conferences
and events. So I actually just finished an event in
March called the Her Conference, and it was wonderful. We
had two workshops that I got to host, and we
really dove into what I just talked about. I went
over these worksheets with folks and I had them do
it themselves so they could experience and then take it
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home and apply it in their own closet if they
felt so inclined, so they could see what are the
benefits of knowing myself? And also, I think we don't
always take time to really sit and get to know ourselves,
and so this can be a good practice for that,
because how are you supposed to know what your style
is if you don't take the time to get to
know yourself.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
You know, love that that's exciting, and I love that,
you know, for conferences, I'm just thinking about how many
people are probably listening and just like, yeah, I relate,
Like I get that. It makes sense because it's just
all of us. All of us are doing like you said,
We're getting dressed every day. So it's something to certainly
think about. How can people find you if they want
to connect with you or.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Learn more, Absolutely, they can head to my website. That's
usually the main place to find all of my information
in one spotsmota dot com. But I also have my
socials which is Bostra Undersquaremota. I post a lot on Instagram,
but I'm also on TikTok, I'm on LinkedIn. I dabble
on Facebook, not nearly as much as I used to,
(41:54):
because I feel like I've had a lot more success
with finding people on Instagram and TikTok because it's and
I feel like people relate to the visual piece of
what I do. And I have a weekly newsletter that
I put out with style quests, so if they go
to the website, they can subscribe to the newsletter and
they can see what the style quest is all about.
Whether or not you participate, that's okay. It might give
you some inspiration and some things to try. And I
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always include different outfit ideas, so people are maybe needing
some new pieces and they've made that shopping list intentionally
and they're like, oh, this is a unique piece that
I actually am looking for something like this. Well, now
you know where to buy it.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
That's awesome. Thank you so much everyone. I'll include all
of those links in the show notes. Brie, thank you
so much for speaking with me again. I love talking
to you. I think that this is you know, this
is definitely a big spot when I look at people's
budgets and they're spending places where they have some they
have a lot of strong feelings about. And I think
that you are helping people because this is not something
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we can never do. It's not something we can completely avoid.
We have to you know we have to have it
be a part of our lives, but to make it better,
to make it feel better, to make it less us intimidating,
and you know, guilt and shame and all of those
feelings that tend to hold us back. I think it's
such a great thing that you're doing, and I'm so
happy to see your business thriving and everybody. If you're interested, yeah,
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head over to the website connect with free. Or if
you're looking to take a look at your budget and
see where you can maybe turn some things back into
money or create some space for new things you want
to bring into your life, please head over to misdelunch
dot com. I would love to set up some time
to speak with you. Thank you again for listening, and
we'll talk again next week. Thank you for joining us
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Speaker 2 (00:13):
Your life and wealth.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Now here's your host, Misty Lynch.
Speaker 3 (00:17):
Hello everyone, thank you so much for joining me for
this episode of Demas Defying Money. I am joined by
my friend Free White. She is a returning guest. She
is the founder of Bostramota and she is I love
I have to read it because I was on her
website and I love all the rebairnings she's done. Soramota
is a queer, nerd forward personal styling company that helps
(00:40):
purpose driven folks embrace their unique style superpowers. I think
that is just such a lovely way that you captured
your business. We're going to talk today about, well, it's
spring time, a lot of people are looking at their
closets and a lot of people are thinking about, you know,
where they're going to put some of their budget and
(01:00):
what they want to do. Some people are returning to
the office for the first time, some people for the
first time in years. So I thought it'd be fun
to talk with her today about, you know, style fascist
things that can be a little bit overwhelming, a little
bit people might think that they can't afford them. But
how we can start to incorporate some of her techniques
and ideas that she uses with her private clients into
(01:22):
our own lives. So thank you Bree so much for
joining me today.
Speaker 2 (01:25):
Thank you so much for having me back. It's a
pleasure to be here.
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Speaker 3 (01:42):
For are the people who might just start tuning into
this show, Can you share a little bit about your
journey r Mostmota and kind of what led you to
want to create this this brand in this company that
focuses on people in their personal style.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Absolutely so. I've always loved fashion. I think in times
past when I've been on I've joked that it all
started with having a dress up box when I was
a kid and rearranging how things were supposed to be
styled to make it more creative and fun for my needs.
And that's something that's just stuck with me for years.
I did work in nine to five for many years
and it was during that time during COVID that I
(02:17):
realized that I missed creativity and I missed working with
people one on one because I was doing a lot
of behind the scenes work. I was doing a lot
of admin work, which you know end result and ended
up helping me a ton in starting my business and
knowing how to basically do all the admin work that
comes along with owning your own business. But I just
missed people and being able to see progress and how
(02:38):
I could help them to really find themselves and find confidence.
I'm a huge sensitive person and an empathizer, and so
I have always felt very strongly about helping people to
feel their best, whether that's just being a listening ear
or being able to give them advice when they needed it.
And I've always had an I for style according to
(02:58):
my family and friends, and so it all kind of
merge together in this world of how do we help
people to feel good about themselves with something they have
to do every day, which is get dressed. I have
a background in modeling and costume and cosplay as well,
just for fun, and that I think helped me combine
my ideas of well, how do you dress for the
(03:19):
day to day, but also what happens when it's easier
to dress in a costume than it is to dress
as yourself. And that's kind of when I rebranded my
business about a year and a half ago. That was
a big thing that came to mind for me because
I had a blog for ten years for nobody other
than myself really and maybe a couple of friends, where
I would just make costumes and show cosplays I created
(03:39):
from what I owned or things that I've found while
I was thrifting, because I just wanted that creative outlet
and to show people, hey, you don't have to spend
a ton of money, or you don't have to spend
a ton of time if you don't have it to
create something fun. But I think when it's easier for
you to dress as a different character than it is
to figure out who you are, that's a big sign
of it's time to or that a little bit more
(04:00):
and figure out how do you become the main character
of your own life.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
I think that is such an interesting concept, and I
because I know I'll talk to people who you know,
maybe as soon as they pop on a zoom call,
they apologize because they're underdressed. Or they feel like they
don't put any effort into what they're wearing, and it's
starting to, like you said, almost feel like a costume,
(04:25):
Like this is my and it's kind of who I am.
And then I know some people who can like throw
on a blazer and they're a new person. They are
now ready to you know, to dominate. And so it's
interesting because I never really thought about it as like
for you know, costume things like that, but in it
is kind of every day we're choosing how we're going
(04:46):
to be out there in the world and people are
noticing and observing, so and I think it's really it's
a really fascinating concept. So and it also is a
bit it's a bit fun when you're thinking about it
this way because I think a lot of us just
kind of we do the same thing every day or
really close to it, and I feel like fashion, food,
(05:08):
all of those things that we do every single day
in this impacts things financially as well. We might not
be thinking about it as much after a certain time.
So it is really kind of that awareness that you're
bringing to people about the choices that you're making. So
I wanted to I wanted to talk with you kind
(05:29):
of on this subject about style quests. This is a focus,
you know, for your content, and I think you know,
I have a little gamer at home who's about twelve
years old, and so I think it's fun because when
you think about a style quest, tell me about how
you kind of how you transform the way people approach
their wardrobe with that concet.
Speaker 2 (05:49):
Yeah, so the concept was style quests. Again, it kind
of lends itself to how I used to do things
when I would make costumes and cosplays and kind of
creating characters but making it your own. It's like, how
do you go into this thing with a inspiration from something,
but then you make it yours, whether it's because you
can't go out and buy all the pieces for it,
or you have something similar and you're like, but I
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like wearing it this way better instead. So it kind
of came from that world, and I figured instead of
just doing a newsletter where I gave just playing fashion
tips that are based on the season, which is fine
and I definitely do include like seasonal fashion tips in
what I do, but to make it more specific, to
make it more fun, because I really want to make
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fashion fun for people again, instead of dreading it when
they open their closet door. It's like, again, how do
you use this to your advantage? How do you level
up your life using your wardrobe? How do you become
the main character of your own story? Well, every adventure
starts with a quest, right, maybe it's a side quest,
but there's still got to be things that you do
to help you get better and practice. And so what
(06:52):
better way than to turn it into a style quest
where I give people a key challenge for the week
based on their wardrobe. Sometimes it's based around a costume
or a character or book or video game or movie,
because again, I think those are things that people can
relate to, and it feels a little less scary than
being like, go put on the outfit that makes you
feel the best, and they're like, well, I I don't
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know what that is. I just don't figure that out yet.
And it's like, well, this might be a way to
help you through that. So, for example, this last week,
because it was the change from winter to spring, the
official first day of spring happening and all that, instead
of just saying, hey, let's talk about spring inspired wardrobe,
I was like, how do I make this interesting to people?
(07:35):
I want you to take Hades and Persephone if they
were people, now turn them into an outfit because there's
that mythology, and you know, there's a lot of books
out there and stuff like the romantic fantasy books that
are based around that. There's some video games that star
Hades as the main character, and so it's bringing those
different communities together and being like, oh, well, it's not
just Spring, but like there's a certain character to this
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that maybe I embody more of this and I even
share it in my posts. I was like, I don't
have a lot of spring colors personally, like I tend
to have more dark and dramatic colors in my wardrobe.
I tend to have a lot more structured and interesting
pieces and not quite as many flowy pieces. So it
was even a challenge for me in creating this for
other people to be like, ooh, I don't have a
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lot of Persephony inspired pieces. It's mostly Hades, But how
do I combine these to create something unique to me
and just play with the idea. And for me, a
big part of that was I don't own a lot
of florals. I think I have one floral item which
I've used like three times now in past videos because
that's what I have for florals, but it's allowing me
to see for myself, maybe I want to explore bringing
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more prints or patterns into my own wardrobe, and hopefully
it's doing the same for other people. Where during these
challenges where it's nothing too wild or crazy, you know,
I let people know here's an easy mode, here's a
hard mode, like do as you feel comfortable, but just
push yourself a little bit to try something new. They
might learn through the experience. Oh you know what, this
wasn't as bad as I thought it would be. Maybe
(09:01):
I do want to branch out a little bit and
try something that's different than I normally would, And so
I try to help people embrace these new ways of
trying things and just stepping outside of their comfort zone
without judgment and hoping to build a community around it
where again we're trying it into things that are fun
and hopefully, you know, fan based, because I think for
all of my nerds out there, it's like when you
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find a fandom that you love, you can't help but
talk about it. So hopefully I'm hitting all of these
different fandoms through these different style requests that allow people
to really embrace the things that they love in life.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
I think that's I think it's a great way to
get people to be more creative because, like you said,
a lot of times we don't really put much thought
into it, or we do the same thing all the time,
or we're really bored with our fashion. We don't think
about it that much. It's not something that is interesting.
And I'll I have my cousin's she posted something recently
about like time to take my winter black clothes and
(09:55):
replace them with my spring black clothes. And I get
I think that there is something that's nice about being
simple and the same. But I love that you're actually
putting a challenge towards it. And it might not be
like you have to dress like, you know, a fairy
princess in the spring, But what do you have what
because we probably I don't know the exact percentage, but
we don't use one hundred percent of our closet.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yeah, I think it's eighty percent of our wardrobe and
we only wear twenty percent of that, Like it's a
very minor amount. I want to say, it's like you
only really wear twenty percent of your entire wardrobe? Is
what it comes down to, which is wild to think
about when you're like, how much of my closet is
full of stuff that I don't wear? And why don't
you wear it? I think that's the question that I
(10:39):
really try to get my clients to ask themselves, as
why don't I wear this? What's the reason? And if
there's a legitimate reason and you should keep it for
some reason, then create But if it doesn't make sense
for you to keep it, why is it taking up space? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (10:52):
No, I think And I saw something and I think
it was it was after the fires in California where
one of their tips was to grab your line and
basket because that is what you wear the most, that's
going to be your favorite thing. And I was thinking
about that, and I was thinking about you. In my
kids rooms and stuff, they have a ton of things
in their drawers and they will wait until that is
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clean or we have to immediately do laundry because those
are the things that they wear. And I'm guilty of
it too, But it is something that's really interesting when
you think about cluttered space and like how much stuff
we might have, but we're really only using a piece
of it. So I wanted to maybe see if we
can talk about your concept of like closet wealth, what
does that mean, what can we do to feel better
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about that?
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah, I think one of the things I talk about
closet monsters, and I think that leads us to kind
of closet wealth. And so again leaning into the gaming
aspect of things, you've always got these monsters that you
have to fight when you're on an adventure, and that
helps you to get that practice in to level up.
And I think for everybody they have different closet monsters. So,
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for example, we were just talking about how you know,
you might only wear twenty percent of your stuff, but
you've got a closet full of clothes. Maybe the closet
monster is you've got a guilt goblin. A guilt goblin
might be, Oh, you've got that piece in there that's
shoved all the way in the back that still has
a tag on it, and you can't let it go
because you paid full price for that and you still
haven't worn it, and so you feel guilty about the
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fact that you never wore it and that's why it's
still there. But every time you look in the closet
and you don't choose to wear that the guilt goblin
comes up, and then you have to face that, and
you have to decide each time that happens, am I
going to feel guilty for this? Or am I going
to make a decision of if I don't wear it
by this point, I'm either going to give it to
a family member or a friend, I'm going to consign
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or donate it, or I'm going to wear it with
a purpose. I'm going to find a way to use this.
I'm going to plan it out, because otherwise you're just
gonna have to keep facing this monster. But if you
don't decide to do anything, it just lives there and
it's taking up brain space and it's taking a closet space,
but there doesn't need to and that's frustrated. And I
think everyone has different closet monsters. But that's a big
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win that I think a lot of people can relate to.
Speaker 3 (13:06):
I think that people also have the I'm going to
fit back in this again someday shame monster.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Absolutely.
Speaker 3 (13:15):
Yeah, yeah, because I think there's a lot of times
where we have these things or you know, maybe we
used to work in an office, maybe you know, maybe
you had suits that you had to have and you
don't need them anymore, but it's that, well, what if
at some point need it? And then I wonder sometimes
when I got rid of a lot of things, am
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I going to want to wear that if I ever
need to again? Or is it like fifteen years old
and not my favorite?
Speaker 2 (13:43):
Yeah? Yeah, And it's a really great question because I
think when that does come up, for a lot of people,
it's that fear of but what if it's kind of
the fomo of your closet, like what if I miss
out on something I already spent money on this and
what if I have to find something new again. But
for a lot of folks once they start going through
their items, once we started that first session, our session zero,
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going over what do you want from your clause? Like
what are you looking for from your closet? Because your
clothes should work for you usually enough to work for
your clothes, What does that look like for you? What
does that feel like for you? What are words that
you want to feel empowered by when you're wearing pieces
and you have people think of those words when they
look at you or you look in the mirror and
you think those words about yourself. For a lot of
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folks if they tried those pieces on right now, it
wouldn't match up anymore, because maybe at one point those
it did make sense. Maybe they had different words that
was like, yeah, I wanted to be really professional and
I wanted to be seen as very mature and confident
and very structured. But maybe over time that's not who
you are anymore, and so the words don't quite match.
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And that's why the clothes don't quite fit that goal.
And there's nothing saying that you can't go and find
another suit or you can't find something that as that
same professional mentality to it that you want to embrace,
but maybe it's not quite as strict. Maybe there's a
little bit more flow to it, and it feels a
little bit more welcoming or approachable, because that's something that
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you've evolved into. We evolve our clothes to evolve with us.
And I think a lot of people are afraid of
letting go because we put so much emotion and nostalgia
into our material items, especially our clothing. I don't know
how many women can look back at one piece and
be like, I wore that on my first date, or
I remember wearing this when I got that raise like
we have these very specific memories about things, and that
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also makes it hard to let go. So sometimes you
just need that approval of it's okay, You're allowed to
appreciate those moments. You can hold onto those memories, but
you don't have to hold on to the piece if
it's not helping you anymore. And I think that helps
you to expand your closet wealth because you're being really
intentional about what you have going on and when you
(15:56):
are more focused on I think it's the idea of
you don't need to have more things. You don't need
to have quantity of things. You need to have quality
of things. And that doesn't have to mean it needs
to be luxury price items. That's not what quality means.
Quality means what's going to be the most versatile for you?
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What are you actually going to get the most use
out of, what's going to be the eighty percent of
your closet that you wear instead of the twenty percent. Like,
that's closet wealth. That's utilizing your resources to the absolute
fullest of their extent and not focusing on well, but
I have all of this stuff already and so that
should be fine, right, Well, none of you don't wear it.
Speaker 3 (16:39):
Yeah, now I think that I like that concept, and
you're spot on when you talked about, you know, how
something used to maybe make you feel like when I
first started out in finance, I wanted to I avoided
anything you know, feminine at all. It was structured professional
like black maybe like lots of you know, lots of suits,
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lots of and I mean I think that felt like
when we talked about the costume, like that to me,
I am like serious businesswoman and everyone's going to treat
me that way, and nobody's gonna recognize that I'm a
woman in a male space. And so it's kind of like,
at this point, it doesn't have my plan anymore. That
is not the goal. You know. I feel like I
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don't pick those pieces up that often anymore. And so
when I've been getting up rid of things in my closet,
either by thrifting them or selling them, I want somebody
to find that that needs that. But it's not me anymore,
you know, like somebody might be going on that interview
or that something and need it. So I think it's
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I think it's an interesting concept to kind of like
not you know, to recognize it, but then also to
be able to part with things.
Speaker 2 (17:51):
That's a huge thing. And I think the fact that
you just mentioned it is perfect too. And it's something
I've brought up with clients to have a hard time
letting go of pieces is don't think of it as
you're getting rid of some thing and what if I
need this and I never get it back. Think of
it as you don't use it often, and somebody else
who really needs that, who gets to experience and enjoy
it the way that you did at one time, Like
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you just gave it a new life with this person
who really wants or needs it, and they will appreciate
it so much. And you may not know them personally,
but imagine if you did. Imagine if it was you know,
a sister or a friend or a cousin that you
were giving this to because you knew they had an
interview coming up. How good would it make you feel
for them to come back and be like, I felt
so good I looked on point I got the job.
(18:34):
I'm so glad that I had this item because it
made me feel so confident. Yeah, it's the same thing.
Just imagine that, but with potentially a stranger who gets
to appreciate it and value your item, and that also
has caused wealth. Is your mindset around it?
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Yeah, And I think sometimes when I'll look at items
and you know, there's a lot of different ways to
even to sell things like maybe as something maybe you
did pay full price for something, and it's like I
can't just put the in a bag and put it
in in somewhere like you can. You know, turning things
back into money financially feels great. It almost gives you
that same dopamine hit as spending money on something. And
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so I feel like there are now like different ways
for you to you know, sell something online or sell
it to like an upscale online through store or something
like that, to really you know, get it again out
of your space, but then turn it back into money
or credit where you could get something new that you.
Speaker 5 (19:28):
Have your eye on.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
So I think that that can be kind of takes
the sting out of letting go, but also kind of
feels great and it's over.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
It's I think it's cathartic too, because again, when you're
clearing out that space and you can see what we
already have, a lot of times people don't even realize
the things that they own and what they can do
with it, because there's just too much for them to
even see and they get so overwhelmed by the options.
Option overwhelmed is such a real thing, even when it
comes to what's going on in your closet and then
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clearing out that space you have a better idea of
what you want to be wearing or what you actually need.
Like sometimes you have to go through and clear things out,
so you could be like, oh, do you know what
I'm missing? I'm missing a pair of black pants like
that would actually get me really far and I'd be
able to use it in a lot of ways. And
yet for some reason, I don't have any. Why don't
I have any? I'm going to get all of the
power suits out of the way and just get a
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pair of good black dress pants that will go with anything.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
Yeah, and it's hard to under it's hard to know
what those things are. You're not kind of going back
or it could lead to overspending, and maybe you just
keep buying things that you maybe already have or you
have a very close version of So I'm curious from
your perspective, if people maybe don't want to spend, maybe
they want to be a little bit more intentional with
their budget or they're you know, they're the cost of things.
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Are there things that you think maybe are worth investing in,
or ways that they can have their current wardrobe work
a little harder for them without that constant feeling of
I need to go get this. I need to go
get this. I saw on TV or Instagram and I
want to go get it. How can we do more
with what we've got? And you recognize those things that
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maybe would be worth spending some money on.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
Absolutely. I think one of the ways that I like
to help people get their minds around this idea and
really focus in on how can I be more intentional
with my wardrobe with what I have is to pose
the idea of meal prepping your closet, okay, And I
think for some people that are like, well, I know
what meal prepping is, but what's meal prepping my closet?
And it's the same sort of premise. Right for folks
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who meal prep, you take a day, you batch everything
for lunches or dinners, and then you don't have to
make it during the week. It's already thought about and
ready to go, and all you have to do is
the day of you take your item out, you pack it,
and then you're done. It's that easy. And I think
you can do the same thing with your closet, right
You can mail prep your closet and ways that you
would do that is one you would look in your
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closet and see what you actually have in there. That's
the first start for everything. Is like you have to
actually take some time and figure out what do I own,
what's going on in here? What do I actually wear.
Some people will use things like the hanger technique to
see what they're actually using, and that's where you put
hangers in one direction and then as you wear pieces,
you flip the hangar around and then at the end
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of the season or whatever timeline you set for yourself,
you can see what you've actually been wearing, and for
the pieces that you haven't been wearing, it's a good
indicator of maybe it's time to let go of this,
or maybe I need to be more purposeful and find
a way to wear this. I usually recommend that if
you're shopping or even when you're looking at a piece,
see if you can come up with three different outfits
for it before you either purchase the item or before
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you decide to get rid of it, and that allows
you to see if it has versatility, and if it doesn't,
then it's not a good fit for you, and it's
a good opportunity to either let it go or not
buy it. The second thing with kind of meal prepping
your closet, looking at your outline for the week really
and seeing like what do I have going on, so
that you can pull items together and be prepared for
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your week and go, Okay, these are outfits that I need,
know I want to wear it this week. And again
it's allowing you to see, I'm going to pull everything
ahead of time and see what I need to wear.
If I've got this really big meeting that I want
to feel confident, I'm going to want these specific pieces.
Do I have them available? Are they at the dry cleaner?
Are they in the laundry? Are they hidden in a
pile somewhere? Like it makes you more conscious of what
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you have going on in your closet, and you're starting
to almost keep track of what you're using and what
you're using it for, so you know, when you've got
these special events, you gravitate towards these pieces more than
the casual days. You gravitate towards these, so it's showing
you what am I actually using in my closet on
a day to day basis or for special events, because
we always say, well, I'll keep that for a special event,
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but then how often do we actually wear it when
there is a special event. So it shows you am
I using that piece even for special events? And if not,
well maybe I don't need that. I need something more
like these pieces. And then I also recommend that looking
at the weather for the week is really important because
again we live in New England where it's thirty in
the morning seventy in the afternoon. Layers are going to
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be a big part of that, and I think some
people get overwhelmed by the idea of layers, but it's
actually a great way to show you how you can
use things throughout the entire year. I think it's actually
a benefit for us because you want your outfit to
work regardless of if you're on the base layer for
when it's the warmest out, or you have multiple layers
to keep you warm because it's cold out. You want
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the outpit to work regardless of which part of the
layers you have on or off, And it shows you
how to use pieces interchangeably with each other, so as
you get to colder weather, you know, oh, well I
just layered this and this on top of this lighter piece.
I could probably do that but with these heavier pieces instead.
So you're starting to see how do I mix and
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match my pieces, not just for right now, but potentially
for the rest of the year. So you're getting a
better pulse on how can what I have work for
me in the future too, not just right now in
this moment.
Speaker 3 (24:58):
I think that it's such a great because anytime that
you put intention behind something, or you plan ahead, and
this is when people, you know, meal plan or they budget,
and I think that that's something that happened because if
we don't, we tend to do the easiest thing the
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least painful, which might be you know, grabbing what I
normally wear and then getting out the door. And so
when we are running late in the morning, we're stressed
when we don't know what the weather's going to be
like when we wake up and all of a sudden
it's cold. I think that if you have that planned out,
it just again makes things easier, right, and it means
that you're going to use more of the things that
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you own, because if you don't, just like with meal prepping,
if you're not planning a hud, you're going to order
the pizza, You're going to do whatever is convenient or
it provides the most pleasure, which might not be like
the most comfortable outfit that you own, or you know.
I think it's such a it's such a good point.
Anytime that we want to change something, what we have
to do first is decide that we're going to be
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more intentional, that we're going to put more effort into
making these changes until they become a habit, and then
that becomes something that you just normally do. So at
first it might feel a little bit strange, but after
a while you might see there are things that you
really do like there's things that you really don't reach
for because you're making those decisions ahead of time and
it doesn't take too long.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Yeah, it looks at the time.
Speaker 3 (26:23):
See what you've got going on this week. Okay, I'm
going to be in the school this day, and I'm
going to be in a meeting this day. So knowing
kind of where where you're going to be even just
a week or a few days ahead of time can
have you make better choices, and.
Speaker 2 (26:35):
It also it limits that what you were talking about
were like, you're already probably rushing in the morning to
get everyone else ready, and then there's no time for you,
and then your panic dressing and you're like, I didn't
want to wear this, and now I'm wearing this for
the day. So it's taking that out of the picture,
because if you've already planned out, you know what's going
on in this week, you know the weather, You've put
your outfits together in the closet in some fashion. Again,
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much like if you're grabbing your container out of the fridge,
you're grabbing your outfit kit, you know, and then you're
good to go because you know you're wearing this on
this day and this on this day, and if you
need to add layers, you will be aware of that
because you've already checked the weather for you know, the
next couple of days. We know it changes pretty quickly,
but like you have a general sense of what's expected
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and what you need, so you're not rushing in the
morning and then making decisions unintentionally and then feeling like, ugh,
I did it again. Oh I had no time for myself.
I hate wearing this. I keep wearing the same three
things and I don't want to because I have all
of this wardrobe that I could be wearing. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:35):
No, And I think it's it's funny because we all
do it. But if you do kind of put that
plan ahead, I think that you might, yeah, even with
layers like you said, because sometimes we might be like, oh,
I'm freezing, like I'm freezing in my office, or I
would have taken a walk today, but I don't have
the right outfit on the right shoes, and that can
lead us to like not read some of our other
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goals that we might have or do some of the
things you might want to do. And I mean, I
don't know. I mean unless you're a kid in middle school,
like where jackets and shorts are jackets are the worst
and you should ever wear them, and shorts are always required.
I feel like most of us have better ideas or
better things that we could put together, so we're kind
of ready for it. And my friend when she lived
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in Seattle said that there's no bad weather, just bad outfits,
and I was like, yeah, you should be able to
like have the right things to go for that walk
or go to lunch or go show up somewhere and
feel fine. So it's really just we kind of might
get a little bit lazy when it comes to all
of the things in our lives that take up mental space.
(28:39):
So I love the thought of doing this ahead of time,
planning out your week, even if it's just a little challenge.
Speaker 2 (28:46):
Yeah, And I think going back to what we talked
about a little bit before too, of if you want
to be more conscious of your spending habits and budgeting
and things like that, something that I think people don't
talk about but they should and something they should do.
I'm apparently big on food analogies today, but I think
that you should also make a shopping list for your clothing,
the same way that you would when you go grocery shopping.
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Because if you think about going to the grocery store
when you're hungry without a shopping list, what do you
end up doing? You end up getting the stuff that's
on the end cap. You're walking through the out of
the outside of the store, and all of a sudden
you're in the bakery and the doughnuts are on sale,
so you grab those, and you grab these, and then
all of a sudden you get home, and one you've
spent your full allotted budget for groceries, but two you
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don't actually have any meals for the week, but you
got a lot of really good snacks, but that doesn't
help you in your day to day. And it's the
same thing when you go shopping for clothes. A lot
of times we go in without a plan or an
idea of what we actually need or what we want
to look for, and well, yes, it can be great
to stumble across these really unique fines. A lot of
times it's not the one off find, it's the well
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it was on sale, so I bought it because it
was on sale. And guess what, that's the one that's
still sitting in the back of your closet with the
tag still on it because it didn't make sense for
you to have and you didn't take a little bit
of time to picture. Could I wear this in three
different ways? Could I actually see myself using this with
things I have at home? And just that little bit
of preparation ahead of time is actually going to save
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you significant money. And also like mindset pain later when
you're like, hmm, I just created new closet monsters for
no reason, right, because I didn't take the time to
prepare myself. Yeah. No.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
And I think there are a lot of times where
even and I'll see with some people, you know, when
we're looking at spending and we're looking at especially when
the shopping category gets to be larger or they feel
you could tell that they're feeling some kind of way
about it, like it's not uh oh, yeah, that's what
I spend each month on clothes and it's fine. It's like,
oh my god, I shouldn't be doing this.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
I know.
Speaker 3 (30:41):
And usually it's not that they're shopping because it's something
that they wrote down on a list that they know
that they need. It is I am doing this to
go feel better quickly, And that is just buying stuff
that you may already own. It might be stuff that
you don't know where you're ever going to wear it. It
might be stuff that was a good deal, so it
feels like a win. Yeah, And it doesn't feel great
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when the credit card bill comes and you have to
go pay for it, as opposed to when you know
you need something. My sister doesn't shop very often, but
she came out here recently. She's like, I need jeans.
Her jeans were about to fall apart, and so we
went specifically out shopping for jeans. She found a great deal,
she got like three pairs or something, and it felt
like this was very intentional and necessary. Now, granted, she
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did throw on her old jeans again like the next day,
and I'm like, what do you do? She's like, I
can't wear them just yet, they're so new, and I
was like, the opposite brand new stuff, I'm throwing it
right on. So it was just funny, but it felt like, yeah, no,
this was actually planned and she got what she needed.
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She's not going to look at that expense later on
with any guilt or any remorse because it was so
thought out ahead of time that it just wasn't impulsive.
So yes, I feel like that can be really helpful
for people. If you know your spending, if you know
your triggers, maybe you maybe you build you know, a cart,
you don't hit spend right away, you know, and then
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you wait and see, can you go through do you
have anything like it? Do you know where you're gonna
wear it? Do you you know? Do you have a
plan for it? And if you do, okay, maybe that
purchase is a good one. If you don't maybe you
just remove it or save it for later or some time,
because it can add up, and it's it's definitely something
that can become a really sneaky habit or for that
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dopamine hit of getting something new.
Speaker 2 (32:32):
Absolutely, And I think people joke all the time about
you know whoa but it's just it's my feel good Like,
oh what do we do when we're sad? We click
add to Kart and it's like no, no, no, no,
Like there's so many potential issues with that because again,
then it's you're just buying it and you're not using it,
and then you're creating this bad cycle for yourself of
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you start losing yourself in the process too, because you're
buying things that don't make sense, and then you're like, well,
what if I want to actually wear this thing? Doesn't
fit my style or my needs or my wants, and
I just don't know why I have it, and then
I feel guilty for having it, and then that cycle continues,
so you buy new things to make you feel better.
You know.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I was speaking with somebody recently, a reporter about gen
Z and about doom spending and about how people feel like,
you know, I'm not gonna be able to afford real
estate or something like that, and so they think of
their big goals and they push them aside for little,
small rewards and treats. And I get it because I
get that feeling that, you know, that patience of saving
up for something that's maybe maybe an expensive item that
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you might feel like, I would wear this every I'd
use this every day. I would love it, but it's
it's going to take a while to get there. That
delayed gratification usually is how you win, how you succeed
over time, but it can be frustrating when it feels
like all these things are out of reach or there's
so much going on in the world that's stressful, and
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what's the point. I'll just do what makes me happy today.
So it is it is something that I think a
lot of people face gen Z all over the place,
you know, to feel that that way. So I love
that you're kind of helping people kind of really connect
to their things. And the last question I have is
style is it's like a deeply personal idea.
Speaker 5 (34:22):
How do you help people overcome those like doubts or
limiting beliefs When it comes to embracing like an authentic style,
because it might always feel off if you are, like,
if you're trying to be like what.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
You're seeing, but it's not you. How do you help
people with that? And what can what can our listeners
do to kind of use you know, use their fact,
use what they've got in their closets as kind of
like a path to that that self discovery that we
talked about before.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
Yeah, I think one of the first things that I
work on with clients is we kind of die into
their mindset a little bit. We do a deep dive
on what inspires you, what do you admire? Who are
people that you admire in fact? And it throws people
off a lot of times because I'll be like, this
isn't actually a style of related question. I'm not saying
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you can't say somebody is a person who admire because
of their style, but I want to know more like
is it their personality? Is it their contributions to society?
Is it their activism? Is they're funny? Is it they're
a sensitive and loving person? What about these people that
I have them list out do you admire and why?
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And as they start talking through that, there tends to
be similarities between the multiple people that they tell me,
and so I'll kind of point them back to it
and be like, what trends or similarities do you see
amongst these people? And when they start poking around and
finding them, I say, is that something that you want
in your life? Do you want to be? Like that?
Is that something you're working towards right now? And most
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of the time it's well, yeah, I would love to
be seen this way, like, well, I've actually been like
kind of working on my confidence or I've been working
on putting myself out there more in this way. And
it's like, great, you realize that we tend to be
on this trajectory and we want to surround ourselves with
these people, whether or not they're people that we can
physically surround ourselves with, or we just we watch them
or we read their content, or you know, we want
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to just surround ourselves the idea of them because we
want to be making that momentum and we want to
reach those goals ourselves. So of course you want to
surround yourselves with people that you admire. A lot of
times that ties into our style, because style is more
than just the visual components. It's more than just the
image that you put on. You can take a blazer
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and say this blazer is bold, you know, a style word,
but it's not a confident blazer. But you can feel
confident when you put it on. So it's the idea
of we take those admiration words that really resonate, and
then we say, how can you turn those into your style?
Style words stick out to you things that are the
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visual components of how you want to look. But how
do you want to feel, how do you want other
people to see you? How do you want to see yourself?
And all of those things blend together to create kind
of your personal brand and the way that you want
to express yourself in this visual identity. And so that
can be the first step for a lot of people
to recognize what's actually important to me. What are some
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of my values maybe that I haven't sat back and
thought about. How do I translate that to this is
the type of person I want people to see when
they look at me, This is what I want to
put out in the world. How can I start doing that? Well.
Clothing is a great example of that because it's a
great conversation starter, it's a great connector. It's one of
those things where when you walk in a room without
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saying a word, within seven seconds, people have made an
assumption about you and they've decided what type of person
you are. What are you saying without speaking when you
walk into a room, and what do you want to
be saying? Do they match up? So, helping people to
create style words for themselves that can be a really
great way to start them on that journey. And then
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they can take that and go into their own closet.
And I'll have folks do a closet audit and will
either do it together or have them do it on
their own. You take those words and as you look
through the pieces that you have, and if you haven't
worn something in a while, try it on and then
really ask yourself, does this match with these words? I've created,
these goals. I have this person that I'm becoming or
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I'm on the track to be, because if not, you've
outgrown that piece. It's maybe a past version of you.
But you want to be heading in this direction and
evolving as a person. And like I said at the beginning,
our clothing it evolves with us because our style changes,
because our mindset changes, because we take in new things
and we grow as people. So why wouldn't the other
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things in our life be affected by that? And it's
okay to let go of the person who was to
become the person who is.
Speaker 3 (38:54):
Yeah, now I think that it's so important for us
to think of it. Yes, it's not always like getting
more expensive or getting more like it could be. Okay,
I had a very stiff, buttoned up bardrobe then because
that's what I wanted. But now I want to be
more approachable. I want to feel more effortless. I want
these things, and then figuring out like is that this
(39:15):
yeah or not? And so that sometimes when you're putting
things through that lens might be easier to say, okay,
I can part with this now or gifted or thrift
it versus Oh, but what if I'm hurt again? What
if I have to do this? Because then we can say, okay,
we're making space in our closet, we're not overspending, and
when we do need something different, we can go get it.
(39:38):
It's very smart to look at things that way and
to help people with that mental piece of it, because
sometimes we do get lost. Sometimes we do kind of
not really know. I know when I had young you know,
when my children were younger, I was wearing it like
I didn't feel necessarily put together because it was like
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I was constantly you know, nursing or holding some and
so it was just interesting to think about, like, okay,
now after that piece, do I stay in this lane
or do I not want to? And trying to figure out, okay,
who's this? What is the call now?
Speaker 2 (40:13):
What do I like? Now?
Speaker 3 (40:14):
Who do I look at now? And think for whatever
reason I like that? We don't know normally all those
things are are done, you know, subconsciously, So bringing those
to the forefronts so smart. What's next for you this year?
What have you been working on? And how can people
you know learn more about you? What do you what's new?
First string for you? This year?
Speaker 2 (40:35):
I have been doing a lot more workshops and conferences
and events. So I actually just finished an event in
March called the Her Conference, and it was wonderful. We
had two workshops that I got to host, and we
really dove into what I just talked about. I went
over these worksheets with folks and I had them do
it themselves so they could experience and then take it
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home and apply it in their own closet if they
felt so inclined, so they could see what are the
benefits of knowing myself? And also, I think we don't
always take time to really sit and get to know ourselves,
and so this can be a good practice for that,
because how are you supposed to know what your style
is if you don't take the time to get to
know yourself.
Speaker 3 (41:14):
You know, love that that's exciting, and I love that,
you know, for conferences, I'm just thinking about how many
people are probably listening and just like, yeah, I relate,
Like I get that. It makes sense because it's just
all of us. All of us are doing like you said,
We're getting dressed every day. So it's something to certainly
think about. How can people find you if they want
to connect with you or.
Speaker 2 (41:33):
Learn more, Absolutely, they can head to my website. That's
usually the main place to find all of my information
in one spotsmota dot com. But I also have my
socials which is Bostra Undersquaremota. I post a lot on Instagram,
but I'm also on TikTok, I'm on LinkedIn. I dabble
on Facebook, not nearly as much as I used to,
(41:54):
because I feel like I've had a lot more success
with finding people on Instagram and TikTok because it's and
I feel like people relate to the visual piece of
what I do. And I have a weekly newsletter that
I put out with style quests, so if they go
to the website, they can subscribe to the newsletter and
they can see what the style quest is all about.
Whether or not you participate, that's okay. It might give
you some inspiration and some things to try. And I
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always include different outfit ideas, so people are maybe needing
some new pieces and they've made that shopping list intentionally
and they're like, oh, this is a unique piece that
I actually am looking for something like this. Well, now
you know where to buy it.
Speaker 3 (42:30):
That's awesome. Thank you so much everyone. I'll include all
of those links in the show notes. Brie, thank you
so much for speaking with me again. I love talking
to you. I think that this is you know, this
is definitely a big spot when I look at people's
budgets and they're spending places where they have some they
have a lot of strong feelings about. And I think
that you are helping people because this is not something
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we can never do. It's not something we can completely avoid.
We have to you know we have to have it
be a part of our lives, but to make it better,
to make it feel better, to make it less us intimidating,
and you know, guilt and shame and all of those
feelings that tend to hold us back. I think it's
such a great thing that you're doing, and I'm so
happy to see your business thriving and everybody. If you're interested, yeah,
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head over to the website connect with free. Or if
you're looking to take a look at your budget and
see where you can maybe turn some things back into
money or create some space for new things you want
to bring into your life, please head over to misdelunch
dot com. I would love to set up some time
to speak with you. Thank you again for listening, and
we'll talk again next week. Thank you for joining us
on another insightful episode of demonst Buying Money. If you
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