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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Welcome to the Demistifying Money podcast, where each week you
will hear unforgettable conversations with expert guests about success, money, business,
and small steps you can take to elevate your life
and wealth. Now here's your host, Misty Lynch.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Hello, everyone, thank you so much for joining us for
this episode of Demistifying Money. I'm happy to be joined
by a return guest, Jill Ripley, and the first time
that she was on the show, we talked about real
estate and maintaining the value of your home.
Speaker 3 (00:30):
But this week we're going to talk about something different.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
Jill's been working on a few new things, including a
book and a brand new website, and I wanted to
talk with her about that and her mission to help
other people and inspire other people.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
So Jill, thank you so much for joining me again today.
Speaker 4 (00:46):
All, thank you for having me here. Hi, welcome the opportunity.
Speaker 5 (00:50):
This episode of Demystifying Money with mis Dy Lynch is
proudly sponsored by Soundview Financial Advisors. Visit www dot Soundview
Financial Advisors dot com.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
To so congratulations on the release of your book, Empowered
by the Storm. I was hoping you could share with
us what inspired you to write it and why now
felt like the right time to get it published.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
Oh that's uh, it's it's kind of a big, big topic.
So so my life from the get go was filled
with a lot of trauma and over the years, you know,
as with many people, life goes up and down and
up and down, and you know, but I've always had
this deep knowing that, you know, things always work out.
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That you don't always enjoy what you're going through, but
things always work out for the best. And you know,
just to touch a little bit a high overview of
some of the traumas I've experienced, you know, I was
abandoned by my mother at age two. My father died
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at age three, my other brother died at age four.
My grandmother, who raised me and my other brother, she
died when I was fourteen. I've had some sexual molestation
issues in my life, you know, and I became a
young mother. I was pregnant at sixteen, gave birth at seventeen,
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and went through the welfare system, and was dependent on
alcohol for many many years. I mean, I functioned, you know,
I did everything that I thought I should do in
my life. I had business at a young age, and
you know that didn't didn't last the way I wanted
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it to. But I was married and we had two
children together and then divorced, and then I got sober
and this crazy easy whirlwind of everything. Once I got sober,
I wanted to start writing the book, which I did,
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so I put down, you know, my ideas on paper
and it started the process of writing, because it's not
a linear thing to write. And then in the process,
my daughter and my former husband passed away in a
tragic motorcycle accident, so that became a block at the point.
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At that point, I was kind of stopped from writing
for a bit, but that turned into, you know, a
deeper push into my spirituality because I truly believe that
once we're not here anymore, it's not that we don't exist,
we just exist in a different form. So communicate with her,
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and you know, I'm connected in that spiritual sense. And
so once I processed through my grief, I started to
get downloads in my meditations in the morning, so I
would put all this information from my meditations into a
working doc on my phone, and I finally get it
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all compiled together and put it into book form.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
So I think that you know, there you mentioned so
many different things that I feel like any any person
you know, from the outside looking in, would be like
it would make it would make perfect sense for you
to just you know, pull the covers of your head,
to not put anything out there, not try to help people,
and nobody would blame you.
Speaker 3 (04:37):
You've been through so many different.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Things that some people can't even comprehend, and you've kind
of you know, the title of the book is so powerful,
empower Empowered by the Storm.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
So what does that mean to you personally?
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Because it seems like, you know, you want to take
all of the things that have happened to you and
transform it and use it. You mentioned the word empowered,
So how do you feel like when you were when
you were thinking about the book and how you wanted
to impact others with your with your story.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
How did you come up with that title? And what
does it mean to you?
Speaker 4 (05:13):
So, believe it or not, chat GPT helped me with
the title. Believe you know, Yeah, so I put into
chat GPT you know exactly what the book was about,
what it meant to me, and you know what what
would be really good title for this book? And it
spit out ten really good titles and this one was
(05:37):
just drawn to me. So it's empowered by the storm,
releasing the past and embracing the light. So I've always
felt like you grow through what you go through, and
to me that like I could literally get goosebumps thinking
about how that title just hit me, and I'm like,
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that's it. You know, we all all can be empowered
by the trials that we've had in our lives if
we let them, if they let if we grow through them,
we can come out on the other side stronger. Just
like going to the gym and you know, exercise in
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your biceps, you want to put more weight on it
each time to you know, to have them grow because
your muscles actually grow in the repairing stage. You know,
they don't grow when you're lifting, they grow when you're resting.
So you know, it just made sense to me. And
you know, if you can, if you can make meaning
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out of what you've gone through by sharing and helping others,
it makes it seem I won't say worthwhile because going
through those hard things, you wouldn't want anyone to have
to go through them, But by going through them, I
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won't want it to be able to help others.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
Yeah, one of the themes in your book is releasing
the past. And I see this a lot where it's
hard for people to release the past. And I see
this when I work with them and with their and
sometimes it involves their finances, and it could involve other
people in their lives things that are holding them back
because they still can't maybe let go of that last
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person they were with, or that former employer that was
going to be the job for them, and or things
that have happened. So I'm curious, what do you say
to people who want to let go of something in
their past that they might know is holding them back,
but they don't know where to start.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
So the number one word is forgiveness. Forgiveness is key,
And there's a lot of misconceptions are around the word
forgiveness because people think, oh, if you forgive somebody, you
let them off the hook. That's not true. Just because
you forgive somebody doesn't mean that it's okay what they did.
(08:05):
It's not. I've had a lot of things that happened
to me that were horrible. You know, as a five
year old girl, I had one of my neighbors pulled
me into the woods and molested me. You know, and
at this point in my life from what I've gone through,
(08:25):
I forgive him because I understand that people don't hurt
others unless they've been hurt themselves. They've just not been
able to process their hurt in a healthy way, so
it comes out as onto other people. They have no
other way to release it other than hurting someone else,
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so they don't have the right grasp in the right
mentality to work through their pain. So if we can
come at these instances from a place of compassion and
realize that these people wouldn't hurt us if they hadn't
already been hurt. And so the forgiveness part is being
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able to say, Okay, I'm not holding on to this anymore,
because when you hold on to negativity, every time you
replay an instance in your life, you're recirculating those reactions,
the feelings that you got when the event happened, and
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those are chemical reactions in our system that only serve
to poison you inside. So that's how we create disease
in our body, is by holding onto anger and not
allowing ourselves to forgive people. Doesn't mean you have to
ever talk to them again, right, you know, And that's
(09:57):
totally fine. There's been people in my life that you know,
I send them well wishes from a distance, you know,
but you don't have to hang on to the hang Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
No, And I think that's a great point because a
lot of people just want somebody else to feel sorry
or to apologize or to be different, and we can't
control that. We can't really control how anyone else is
going to act or respond to us. They might not
even think about us anymore. And there's something to being
able to know that that is, you know, the things
that you're talking about there for you.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
You know, they're for you.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
And your thoughts and your feelings and what you're constantly
you know, you know, if you have trauma and things
that you're holding on to and you keep going, you know,
you are then living through that every day or every
time that that comes up. And so I think that's
such a I think that's such an important thing for
people to think about or to least be open to,
you know, exploring, because a lot of times we are
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we are held back or we're kind of held hostage
by different things that have happened to us once before
that we've you know, moved on from and talk about
embracing the light. What does that look like in everyday
real life? And how can someone like shift towards that
if they feel like they're stuck in the darkness, so
they feel like there's just a black cloud over them
and everything bad happens to them, how do we how
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do we embrace the light in a normal day.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, so there's some tools. One of my biggest tools
is meditation. I so for years people had said, oh, meditate, meditate, meditate,
and I'd be like, ah, I can't do it. I can't,
I can't. I tried, I tried. I can't shut my
mind off, you know. And I was going to college.
I got my I got my exercise science degree in
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my forty zone.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Very nice, okay, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
So one of my professors ran a pilate studio and
she said, hey, Joe, we're having a we're having a
meditation guide. Come to my studio. He's called the Boston Buddha.
If you if you can connect with him and find
his war he was amazing. So I said, okay, I'll
come to the class. Well, I had never had a
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good experience meditating sitting by myself, but in a room
full of probably twenty people. I had the deepest meditation
because he he brought us just to a space where
it was okay if the thoughts came in. But he
he had this mantra, so hum, so hum, which translates
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to I am right. So I'm sitting there in meditation,
and I think I was not. I was not cross legged.
I was sitting in a regular chair and you know,
just saying so hum, so hum. And I got into
this space where there were no there were no thoughts
like they just kind of everything just kind of settled.
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And I got up from that meditation going, oh my god,
I want more of this, like wow, And you know,
from that point on, I have cracked. And meditation is
called a practice for a reason because you know, you
can't just sit and expect to get into that zen state.
(13:09):
You know. It's there are times still. I've been meditating
for thirteen years now, and there are times still when
I sit to meditate and I take my deep breaths
and I get settled, and then all of a sudden,
the monkey mind starts. It's just churn and churn and churn,
and all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, yeah, you're
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thinking again. Okay, deep breaths, say your mantra, whatever the
mantra may happen to be for that day, and you
know it'll bring me back some days. I some days
I can get into such a deep, deep meditation and
it just it just feels like stillness and peace. And
other days I get up and go next one will
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be better. Yeah, and I don't stress over it anymore.
Speaker 2 (13:55):
I love that you've shared that because I think there's
a lot of people that have tried meditation, and like
you mentioned, it being practice or having a guided meditation
be the first way that you actually felt like you
experienced that you know, kind of clarity or that that
that peacefulness.
Speaker 3 (14:08):
In your mind.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
So I do hear so much about the positive the
benefits of meditation, and I do think you're right.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
It's a practice.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
So those people who can just go into that state
and they've worked on that, they've worked to get to that.
So I think that's such an important thing for everybody
to be able to do because we think about all
these things. You know, things that you know could be expensive,
you know, there's could be therapy, could be tough to
find somebody. But I feel like there's certain things that
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we can do on our own for free that can
benefit us in a lot of different ways regarding our
mental health. And I think meditation is really one of
those areas that is worth, you know, exploring for people
who feel like they're they're stuck, or their their wheels
are spinning, or that you know they can't you know,
they're just kind of grinding forward, but they might not
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be feeling settled or peaceful or safe. So I think
that's an interesting thing for everybody to kind of to
look into. And it's it's amazing how you know it's
helped you and kind of brought you to this place
where you feel like you could share your story because
you're sharing some very vulnerable and private parts of your
life in this book. How did that feel for you?
Because I know that everyone we want to listen to
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authentic stories.
Speaker 3 (15:20):
We know what's not real. We know you know, we
can we.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Can kind of tell when people are you know, our being,
you know, genuine and authentic, and I think that that
involves sharing personal information about ourselves, but it's hard to do.
So how did you get to the point where you
felt comfortable sharing those things? After you know your journey
with sobriety and all the things that you went through.
Speaker 4 (15:42):
I've always kind of been an open book. I'm I'm
you know. I feel like authenticity is the superpower, being
able to, you know, share when you're struggling. I do
a lot of this in my business right. So I'm
a realtor. I've been for five years now, and you know,
I'll often go to meetings and they train you to
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learn and grow. And you know, if I'm in a
meeting and I don't get something, I say, hey, I'm here,
I don't get that, and this is why. And I
can't tell you how many times I've had a speaker
or an educator say, Phil, thank you for being vulnerable.
You know, vulnerability is not a weakness, it is a strength.
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Be vulnerable, open up to those that you care about
and tell how you're feeling. Our feelings create our reality.
So if we can't work through our feelings and come
out on the other side or stop, you don't want
to be stuck in your life, you know. So I've
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always been kind of an open book, and some of
the greatest resolutions have come from opening up to somebody
about my problem. Like you talk about therapy, therapy is
another tool in my toolbox I have. I've since I
was a little girl. I've been in and out of therapy,
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you know, And it's okay to be in therapy because
therapy is getting an opinion from somebody who is outside
your sphere that can give you a high level They
can look at your situation from a high level overview
and not be so attached to it. They can have
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a perspective that is not biased, and they can give
you the tools that you need to work through things.
So anytime I'm having a particular struggle in my life,
I will seek therapy. I you know, I've had many
different therapists over the years, because you know, you move
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from place to place or you have a different type
of need. But I've always sought therapy. I had my
most recent therapist, Sarah Dion. We're actually creating a Sunday
kind of worship service that you know, it's not religious,
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it's it's going to have a spiritual message. And you
know that's going to be once a month in Halifax
at Soul Purpose Studios, the last Sunday of every month.
But you know, she's been a great resource for me,
seeing you know, when I found her. When my daughter passed,
I feel like higher guidance brought me to her. So
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I was scrolling through Facebook and at this point, my
daughter passed and her dad passed in August, and by December,
I was still not feeling like a human being, and
I knew I needed help. And I picked up my
Facebook and I'm scrolling through and and here she pops
up Holistic Healing in Halifax, right in the town I
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live in. I'm like, okay, I'm in. So I reached
out and she really helped me to navigate greed because
I felt like, you know, I was a hypocrite for
not being able to move through it because I had
such a spiritual connection and and you know, my belief
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is that we don't we don't die, we just transition
to higher form. And so I was feeling very you know,
mad at myself for not being able to feel and she,
you know, she brought me through that showed me how
to give myself grace and compassion. And you know, we're
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so we're so used to giving compassion to the people
around us, but we don't give it to ourselves.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I was going to ask you about the you know,
the role that faith and spirituality kind of played in
your transformation.
Speaker 3 (20:05):
But I think that's such an interesting thing that you
brought up about.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
You know, when you are somebody who has you know,
has faith or who has worked on your own you know,
spiritual journey, and then you still have these human emotions
where you're depressed, where you're sad, where you miss somebody
who's gone, and you you kind of can sometimes weaponize
that against yourself being like but I I've worked, I
know this, I shout.
Speaker 3 (20:27):
But it's not.
Speaker 2 (20:28):
Necessarily that that easy or that way. So that's you know,
that's great that you found somebody to help you, because
we're still human no matter how fauld or how much
work we've done, and something still hurt and some things
still you know, can bring us right back to where
so it's constantly that process. So it's it's clear that
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you know your your spirituality has you know, and you
in the resilience that you have has played a role
in everything that you've done to this point. I'd love
to know if there's one myth that you about healing
or personal growth that you wish people would let go of.
Speaker 4 (21:07):
Oh wow, one, miss, I don't think there's just one.
I think there's so many. I think people just really
need to tap into their inner wisdom. And I did
that through meditation, and you know most of so, believe
it or not. I keep rereading my own book because
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a lot of the messages in the book came to
me through downloads in my meditation. I'll readread the book
and go, wow, that's pretty good. Like it doesn't come
from me, it comes from higher guidance. And I think,
I guess one of the biggest things is teaching people
to tap into their own intuition, their own higher guidance.
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We all have it. We just I think, suppress it
because we've got all the all the outside noise of
the world baraging at us constantly, the phones ringing, pinging, dinging.
There's this social media, there's that one. There's the Foamo
of missing out. You're scrolling through your phone and you
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know this, it's a constant barrage of information data, and
you know, really coming back to your your inner being,
your inner awareness, and and you know, taking some deep
breaths once in a while. Have you heard of doctor
Andrew Huberman. Yes, yes, very very fait. He's a neuroscientist
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and he talks about this technique that I use all
the time. It's called the exaggerated sigh. And he said,
dogs do this, and if you think about it, you
look at your dog and they'll do this. So it's
it's it's too short deep breaths and two short breaths
in and one long one out. So it's and I
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do that like three four times, and it will center
you back into the present moment. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:07):
No, I think that's funny because now that I think
about my dog and how sometimes she will have this
lot of exaggerated sign and you're just like, what's so
difficult today? Because it just says a pretty comfortable doggy life.
Speaker 3 (23:21):
So that's it.
Speaker 4 (23:22):
You know, you've probably spent a little too long ago easy. Yeah.
Speaker 2 (23:26):
And so I think that, you know, there are certain
things like even yeah, like like breath work, breathing, you know, meditation,
all of these things that you're talking about that it
can't hurt to try. There's no harmful side of trying
to meditate or trying to you know, to breathe.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
And so I think that there's so.
Speaker 2 (23:43):
Much that I'm sure that you know, we can all
work on if we feel like we want to take
some action or some Yeah, and it doesn't have to
be this massive life changing you know, burn everything to
the ground and start over. It could be taking a
few minutes to breathe, or a few minutes to focus
on your on a meditation.
Speaker 4 (24:03):
In all reality, if you if you do that, if
you try to burn burn everything and start all over,
it's not gonna last. You have to take it on.
You know, it's like doing a diet. You know, you
have to you have to start small, you know, I
tell people in the book, I say, start your meditation practice.
Start with one or two minutes. You don't have to
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sit for twenty minutes or an hour. That's good, the
good news. You know, it's just a little bit here
and there. Get used to the practice, and once you do,
you can you can do a little more. And once
you get hooked on that feeling, you know, those feel
good chemicals that come through in your meditations, those energize
you for the day. You know, I have a long
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daily ritual practice I have, you know, I stretch, I meditate,
I do my gratitude journal, I read my affirmations, and
I have a daily devotion that I look at and uh,
you know, it takes time. I do it while I'm
having my coffee, and you know, it's pretty chill, but
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it takes me time, but it energizes me for the day.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
No, And I love that you mentioned that that practice
that you have, because I know that there's some of us,
there might be some people listening, and a lot of
times we have a very all or none mentality. So
if you can't do your morning ritual this journaling, and
then this and then this and then this, then you're
not going to do anything. Because and I've seen people
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on like Instagram and TikTok with their long morning routines
that they've done and that works for them, but they
got there by starting with something smaller most of the time.
So I feel like we see that the chapter ten
for somebody's spiritual journey, and we're on chapter one, and
we think we should just get there. And so I
think it's important, Like you mentioned, it doesn't It could
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be a minute, it could be a couple of minutes,
and then you might then you might decide that this
feels good, that you want to wake up a little earlier.
Speaker 3 (26:01):
To do more.
Speaker 2 (26:02):
That's that's part of the process. But it doesn't have
to start out with this beautiful trink like this could
be maybe what you think about while you're having that
first cup of coffee, and maybe jotting certain things down
because I've done it. And when I do have certain
things that I write down, or I do feel like
I get more done. I know that, and I feel
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like I'm more clear on the things that I care about.
It is a very healthy thing, but I think a
lot of times it does take some work. So that's great,
you know, to learn in your book and through other
people that you've learned from.
Speaker 4 (26:35):
Yeah, And so speaking of learning from people, that was
another That was another reason for writing the book. Is
a lot of the lessons of spirituality seem so esoteric,
Like I love I love people like Deepak Chopra and
Ekhart Tootally and they've got such great, fabulous ideas, but
I spent many years trying to decipher what thing meant.
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So I want to take some of their bigger, more
expansive ideas and break them down into little chunks that
people like me can can absorb and understand. So, yeah,
I tried to make it simple and use, you know,
my life experiences to to you know, like I talk
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about my grandmother calling me from And this is how
old I am that my grandmother used to go out
on the back porch and call my name jim je
and I'd hear it off in the distance. I'm like,
and you know, so that that call to home, that
message that we give ourselves to come back to our
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spiritual nature is really important.
Speaker 3 (27:47):
So what's next for you? Are there any more projects?
Speaker 2 (27:50):
You mentioned a project for your Sundays that that's starting up,
but any other projects or books in the work or
what do you think is next for you as you
continue to you know, to do the work that you're
doing and to share and yeah, what else is going
on with you?
Speaker 4 (28:05):
So I do have a website. It's empowered by the
storm dot com and the purpose of the website it
does it does talk a little bit about the book,
but there's resource pages for people going through all kinds
of trauma. Because this is really the meat and potatoes
of why I'm doing what I'm doing, is I want
to help those who are stuck maybe in a victim
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mentality and life is you know, just so hard. They
don't know where to go, they don't know who to
turn to. You know, people may be suffering through substance
abuse or PTSD or grief, any kind of trauma. I
have a whole resources page that is dedicated to to
those areas and places you can go to get help.
(28:52):
You know, AA Allen on some grief support, So there's
a lot of that. Also building out my page for
mindfulness and spirituality, trying to put some resources in so
the web websites, you know, a work in progress. I'm
also working on a podcast. I'd like to have people
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on that can talk to the spiritual nature of things
outside of my own opinion, because everything that I talk
about is my opinion and my reality and how I
believe things. But my way is not the only way, right,
and so you know, I'd love to I'd love to
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get some really good people on to share their experiences
and their their practicees. Just I want to help as
many people as possible. So there's that And oh and
as far as another book, I when I got done
(29:58):
writing this book, friends of mine called me up and
she said, Jill, actually she texted me. She said, I
just got done with your book and it was so inspiring.
When are you starting on the next one? And I
was like, are you? It took me six years to
write this one.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
How to do it so it can happen again.
Speaker 4 (30:19):
Well, I was like, nope, not doing it. And then
in my meditation I started getting more downloads. I'm like, okay,
here we go. Get so I have a whole. I
have a whole, you know, list of the insights that
are transit transcending through my meditations and I'm writing them down.
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So eventually I believe there will be another book. So well,
I'm growing every day.
Speaker 3 (30:48):
No, I think that's something that you know.
Speaker 2 (30:52):
When you you know, and I think there's a lot
of people who might have a story inside them or
might think about writing a book, and I feel like
there's you know, there's no one clear right.
Speaker 3 (30:59):
Path to do it.
Speaker 2 (31:00):
There's all different ways. But I do think that, you know,
most of the people that I speak with on the podcast,
you know, no matter what they do for for work
or their business or what they they they have this
strong desire to impact and help others and they want
to get they want to put you know, the things
that are in their brain that could help somebody out
there in the world to help them out. You know,
it's the reason I wrote a book, It's the reason
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you wrote a book. You know, we we all want
you know, we're all doing this from a place of
you know, of service.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
So it was it was just so great to hear
more from you what you've been doing.
Speaker 2 (31:32):
And I encourage everyone to go visit Empowered by the
Storm dot com.
Speaker 3 (31:35):
Check out Jill's book and her.
Speaker 2 (31:37):
Website and certainly you know if you you know, if
you felt inspired by her, you know, how can people
connect with you if they'd like to, you know, meet
with you or learn more.
Speaker 4 (31:47):
Well, you can go to the website Empowered by the
Storm dot com. There's a contact link there. You know,
my my real estate website is Jill Ripley dot com.
And you know my email Empowered by the Storm three
six nine at gmail dot com. There's lots of ways too.
(32:08):
I'm not secret, I'm on Instagram Home Success with Jill
and at empowered by the Storm dot com. I'm I'm
sorry at Empowered by the Storm.
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Okay, well, we'll be sure to include that all in
the show notes. And thank you for writing sharing your story.
Thank you for what you've been doing to help others.
It's really nice to hear somebody talk about, you know,
going through their their own spiritual journey. And their own
work in an honest way that doesn't look like the
beautiful picture at the end, that shows that there's a
lot of things, that a lot of steps in the way,
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and that it is possible for all of us, no
matter what we've been through, to start to heal, to
start to you know, find forgiveness and find growth and
help others you know who might be you know, right
where we were a few years ago.
Speaker 3 (32:53):
So thank you so much, Jill, and thank you for
joining us.
Speaker 2 (32:56):
An be sure information you enjoying the Jill and her
in the show notes and if you're looking to you know,
to either find a topic you might touch up on
old episodes of the podcast, including Jill's first one where
we talked to her about real estate and home home
improvements you can make. You can head over to Misty
Lynch dot com and find all of that information there.
Thank you so much for joining us, and we'll talk
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again next week