June 7, 2025 • 32 mins
Courtney and Lorin 2 besties sit down to discuss IBD and dog bites. Grab a cocktail dog lovers and get ready to learn and laugh!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Hey, it is uh the Down with Dogs Podcast. We
are back for our second edition with our new edition,
my bff Lauren, two crazy best friends talking about dogs. Hello, Hello, Hello,
Let me have a superper cocktail because we talk all
about dogs. And if you know us, or if you
tuned into the last episode, do you know Lauren has
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three rescues, I've got one non rescue, and we have
to talk about our dogs while having cocktails. So cheers.
Here we go. Hmm, And I think we should kick
it off with a check in. Okay, who should be
checking with first? She would checking with me first? I
don't think so, okay, we'll check it with you. Well,
(00:41):
go ahead, you check it. Lauren's dog bit her in
the arms? What the heck happened? He did?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I have two very deep dog bite But he's never
bitten you before, Charlie, he's a rescue.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Has he's ever never bitten you before? No? No, so,
because I know she's got a dog, Ollie that bites
her all the time, but Charlie has never.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Been Ollie has not bitten me in a very very
you can't even.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Say that issued by you at all. But okay, but
that's a rescue. You got to give them time. So
what I have a rescue and he bites me in
the face.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
He's gone, No, Ollie didn't mean to bite me in
the face.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Okay, he was asleep. It was in his slumber and nope, nope.
And he was like, and he bit my nose. All right, Well,
let's talk about Charlie. Charlie has never bitten before, which
is concerning that he bit you. It's not concerning to
me that he bit me.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I I went out with my mom. We went out
and had lunch, and then we went over to Ocean State,
which I.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Love, by the way, because I have the best stuff there. Ever, yeah,
they need to get more dog toys. That's just me.
In my Ocean State, they scale back on dog toys
and I'm like, hello, Ocean State, I need more.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And mine adds more and more and more all the time. Okay,
So there's this big bin of these giant tennis balls.
They were like the size of a soccer ball, but
they looked like a tennis ball. And Charlie loves tennis balls.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, so who doesn't love balls? He loves good set
of balls.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Anyway, So Charlie, I said to my mom and like,
let's get this. And my mom's always she is the
best for grandma on the planet.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Okay, so she's like, I'm buying this for him.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And got home and we went outside and we played
with it for a while and he ran around. He
was having a great time, and then my mom laughed,
and so later on the day I was like, well,
I'm gonna take him back outside. I'll kick the ball
around with him and we'll have some fun. And I
went to pick the ball up to throw it for him,
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and he clamped onto my arm.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I know, but he clamped onto your arm, not even
anywhere near the ball. No, he wasn't. I don't know.
He was just so bad. He was so excited. If
you didn't listen to the last podcast, Charlie's little He's
like a little wiener dog ish thing like that. Just
and he punctured her my armor arm. So it wasn't
even like, so did you punish him or no, because
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you were playing with him and it was kind of
he was coming up to grab the ball, but he
got your arm by accident. I did not punish it, Okay,
I wouldn't have either. I did show him and say,
look what you did. Your mother. You're what you did.
You're never getting another giant.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You're not getting another giant ball ever. We're not playing
with this ball ever again. So I did not punish him.
I don't believe in punishing.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Here's my question with Charlie, who's very sensitive. When you
showed him your injury, did he acknowledge it? Oh? Absolutely,
I figured he would. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He felt like you could see his giant ears just
went down and he felt so badly that he bit
me and I was bleeding and.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He was just like, I'm so sorry. He was so
sweet about it. Should we blame this on your mom again?
Going to Ocean State because the last episode we blame
something on your mom, your dog getting loose. You know,
let's blame it on your mom.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Okay, it's it's Linda's fault.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It is so not it is so Linda's fault. She
suggested going to Ocean State joblat in the first place. No,
actually I suggested it. Okay, then Linda, it's your fault.
Charlie bit Lauren, Linda Lou you had a middle Nahmer.
She's going to be upset, but one of these days fine,
she is going to be on the show because she
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is the best grandma for grandma ever. She really is.
So let's go over so like check in with me.
So last time we talked, I really didn't get into
my dog's issues. He's had issues his whole life, most
recently diagnosed with IBD irritable bowel disease, which from what
I gather, is worse than irrital irritable bowel syndrome. Anyway,
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I'm going to have a story. You have a sip.
Oh my gosh, the last couple of days he's had
inappetance where he just isn't excited about his food and
I don't blame him because he's only eating rice and
egg whites because we haven't figured out a diet for
his IBD yet. So I was like blowing it off.
Uh So, two days ago he vomited up a lot
of foam, and he's he's done it in the past.
(05:13):
This foam was different though. It wasn't that bile foam
where your dog is an empty stomach and they throw up.
It was a lot of weird foam going on, and
I thought, oh, shoot, the hell's going on? Then he
started burping per my vet. She says, to give him
prilo sack. So I give him a Prilo sack twenty
milligram prilo sack, which is omes Oh can you say
the word, Lauren on presmelol? Oh? God, now you've got
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me ame masks. That's all right. It's metpersol omeprazol, omeprazol,
which is different than fammtidine, which is pepsid. Pepsid doesn't
work as good on IBD dogs as omeprazol does. So
I give him a Prila Sackbut an hour later he's fine.
I give him something to eat. He's feeling okay. He's
acting a little off, but not horribly off. So I
give it to him today. I say, no, I'm gonna
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give another one to keep him on the priva set
for a couple of days. He's got acid reflux. Let's
get an under control. I give him a private sack,
take him for a nice walk, give him his meal.
Lauren comes over. We rip a couple shots, and then
we decided that we didn't know we did not. He
said we're gonna leave. We're gonna go do a little
shopping for like. I think we were gone an hour,
gone an hour. When I came back, this dog who's eleven,
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who has never pooped in my house before pooped in
the house. I don't even want to get into it,
but should I? It was really gross. Okay, it was
formed for you IBD parents out there, was formed, but
it did have a little bit of blood mucus in it.
Sorry I said that. So anyway, of course, then I
go Google Frenzy and then Lauren finds out that private
sac can cause colitis and dogs. So then I fire
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off an email to my vet who told me to
give him Privo. Second she says he's got colitis. No shit, Sherlock. Anyway,
thank you Google dot com. Yes, and I don't have
my phone next to me, but they just email me
back and he's gonna start another medication. They're gonna call
into CVS for his colitis that was caused by the
Privo sect that told me to give him for his
ib day. You can't make this shit up. No, you cannot,
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literally can't. And I'm and I've been telling you morea
for the last couple of days. He's just acting weird.
Something's off, he's not eating. It's not he I can
just tell my dog, and you can tell your dog's
when they're off. Well, mine was off this morning. When
she left the house today, her dog Allie was like
whining and crying the whole time. He's never he is
the classic Papion corgy.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Mix with this like really high pitched squeeze, like it's
just like like it's so loud, but he only does
it every now and again, and like it'll start barking
and I'm like stop and he'll go into his high
pitched wine. Well, he just would not stop whining. And
this will tie into the homework you gave me with
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the rescues. Yeah, he wouldn't stop whining, and I felt like,
I'm like, he.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Just means a little downtime. Downtime.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
He's a little too overstimulated and he needs to just
sit in his I have a giant pen for him.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
He's not created. He's got a giant pen. However, creating's
okay because my boy Jack likes a nice smart crate.
He feels secure.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I have no problem with creating. His crate is inside his.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Pen, so he can do what he wants. He can
do what he wants.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
There's a blanket in the crate and then I put
his favorite little thing in there with him whatever, but
he wouldn't stop blinding. So I said, well, I'm just
gonna I'm just gonna go like I'm gonna go, and
he's gonna calm down and he'll be okay. So hopefully
when I get home I have three dogs.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Still, No, you will, you will. But it's funny because
before I'm going to coming up, I'm going to give
you a signed Your dog might have IBD just from
my dog signs. But I did give you homework. So
this is really leading us into your homework, which has
come up with five tips for rescues. If you're bringing
a rescue home, there are so many things you need
to know. It's so different than if you to go
go to a breeder and get a puppy, entirely different animal,
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and you have rescued. Every animal you've ever had has
been a rescue, from cats to dogs and who knows what.
So we need five tips. If you're bringing home a rescue,
give them to us, no pressure, give them to us.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Okay, So I am going to say that I didn't
do my homework in the traditional sense that you want
me to do my home.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
No, No, you lived it. I lived itactly. Here's his
life homework. I'm not asking you to google anything or anybody. No,
I want five tips from you because you're a rescue person.
You've lived through it, you have had many different rescues, sizes, ages, sexes,
and it's all the same. The five tips will be
the same for anything you bring home to your house
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from a rescue.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Absolutely, so I would say the number one thing is,
again we talked about this last time, is that they
have been through the ringer, so you have to give them,
i'm a safe space. You have to make them feel safe.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So that's number one. Which is a crate, a pen,
their own little treats and treasures and toys. So a
safe space. I love them. Yes, they have that. They
just have to have a safe space. I love it.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You cannot raise your voice, Okay, that should be reserved.
We talked about this before too, that you raising your
voice is if a your pet is an imminent danger
or something.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Right, just save that loud voice for when they're all
settled in.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, you need to make sure that you have a routine.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Okay, So one is a safe space. Two, don't raise
your voice. Three is a routine. They need a routine,
and so the routine is like feet at the same time,
walk at the same time. Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yes, So for me with my dogs, when I get
up in the morning, I immediately let them out.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Is this a time though, Like when you say routine,
are they are you getting up at seven o'clock because
they go out at seven oh five?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes, okay, okay, yes, And that time can range for anybody,
like if you get up at ten o'clock, then you
get up at ten o'clock.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's where you let them out. But what I'm saying
is a routine. Isn't you waking up at seven in
the morning two days a week and then at ten
the next You've got to stick to a time. You
have to stick to a time.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So they go out at the same time almost every
single morning.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Love that.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And then we come back in and Mommy gets her coffee, okay,
and they know that. They they literally hear my coffee
pot because I'm old school, okay, is set to program.
So my coffee pot goes off at seven am every
single day, and they hear that, and that's them acknowledges
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it's coming, everything's coming. So I let them out, come
back in, get my coffee, put my coffee pot, uh
my coffee, mug down and then.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They get fed. So whatever it is, we don't have
to go through the full room routine. You need a
routine with a rescue dog at least. I mean, I
think every dog needs a routine the whole life. That's
just me absolute life. Keep them on a nice routine.
They like it. It's probably just like babies, but it's
very important when it's a rescue animal to maintain a
specific routine that you do daily for two years at least,
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or until they've settled.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Until they settled, we talked about that. Sometimes it takes
more than two years.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
All right, a routine, yes, and then four. I've got four,
you've got five. I know you've got five. We're on
number four now. Said the leash.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It is the leash you must so. I know a
lot of people will do a collar and a leash,
and I don't agree with a collar and a leash
because they can pull themselves out of their collar.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yes, you need a not if you're gonna heart. You
have to have a heart. If you have a collar.
My dog has a no slip collar. They can never
get out of it. They can't slip out of it.
It's called a no slip collar. They're hard to find.
Harness one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, they need to be harnessed because they get very
nervous and they start panicking yep, and they'll wiggle their
way out and they'll that again that like I've got
to get away from this person for no other reason
that I'm terrified.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, I love that. So the fourth tip is when
you bring your rescue home and I don't care. We
talked about this before. If you're like, play with your
dog and he he follows me everywhere and he's listening
to me, but he's a rescue he should always be
or she on it with a harness and a leash
for a long time till you figure it out. Because
you don't know what triggers these animals. They've been in
a shelter, they've been abused, you don't know. So harness
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and leash, yes, okay, five. I know you can come
up with a fifth one a rescue dog that you
bring home and these are all your dogs. Like the
important tips, So I think I have to say that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think one of the most important thing things is
to just smother them with love.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Way if they accept smothering. But if oh, yeah, you
can't go right up to them because you don't know them.
So just show them love and whatever they're ready to accept,
absolutely wherever we're So it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Like we talk about teaching our children and people I
don't have any children. They always say you need to
meet them where they're at.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You cannot make them meet you where you're at.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So you need to make sure you're meeting your rescue
where it's at, and you're providing them like it's like
a garden too, Like your garden's.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Not going to grow just by you being like, stomach,
don't do that. I need you to grow. So, if
your dog is a rescue, you bring them home and
they're obviously cowering or hiding in the corner, you leave
out a cute for a toy, You talk in a
low voice, you always maintain it calm, calm, and then
they come out, they accept the toy. Then you give
them another toy, or you give them a little pat
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or you start slow with him. But if you've got
a rescue dog that just wants love, you give him love.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You do you remember when I brought Priscilla home, my cat? Yes,
So Priscilla was terrified.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
She had been so abused.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
She was and I brought her home from the Humane Society,
which by the way, I love the humane side, which
is now Human.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
World, which we've talked about.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
And she was under my couch and she refused to
come out from under the couch.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
How long did she stay out of there for? Oh,
like you're talking days, and you put food by the couch.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So not only did I put food under the couch,
I took the top of a shoe box, and I
put kitty litter in the top of a shoe box
and I slid it under the couch so that she
could just live there. And then one day I got
up in the morning and I was getting her food
ready to put it under the couch, and she came
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out and she I turned around. I looked at her,
and she goes. I was like, don't make any sudden movements,
don't move who just stand still?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Oh yeah, hear the gouits. And after that she was great,
best cat ever, best And how old was she when
she asked? She was fifteen? Yeah, so she was. She
lived a long, great life with you, she did, but
it took a long time. I mean you were putting
food and kitty litter under the couch. I was, so,
you have to let them go at their own pace.
I feel you cannot force a rescue. They'll it'll They'll
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make that connection at some point it will click in
their brain. It will I'm safe and I'm okay. And
that's what happened to Priscilla. She came out. She's like, manah,
where's my food?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Was up?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah? And then there was Presley.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yep, who I literally was out on New Year's afternoon.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
New Year's Day afternoon.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right, and I went to Animal City was this place in.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Vernon, and I went in.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I don't know how I went in, but I went
in and they're like, oh, we just had somebody dump
a litter of kittens.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And I was like, oh my god. If I was there,
I be like, please don't tell my girlfriend that, because
she will come home with every animal or to her home.
I always said, girlfriend, we're not dating, but she will
take any animal that needs a home to her house.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Are there worse things out there than dating me that
you had to profess?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Probably No, that's probably the worst.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So anyway, I was sitting and Presley she chose me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I didn't choose her. She came.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
She sat in my lap, and she was about six
weeks old at the time, and said all right. They're like, well,
you gotta buy her litter box and you gotta buy
her this. And I was like whatever, I'll buy it allhla.
So I brought her home and I had to feed
her like with a little baby bottle because she was
so little old.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, yep, she was the biggest bitch on the planet. Listen,
we'll get into it some day. I had a cat
named Amelia. I named her Amelia Earhart because she fell
out of a tree. She did. I was riding my
horse in a field and I heard screeching and I
looked up and it was a kitten, eyes still closed
and there was a hawk getting to eat this wild kitten. Yes,
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and I did everything I thought was right with this
wild kit. I mean she was three days old. I
was feeding with a dropper too. She turned out to
be the biggest bitch on the planet. Yeah, because they
why don't you think it would they be a lap
lap cat?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And like no, because they know no what that You've
brought them home because they were in distress and now
they have the you know idle like.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think it's just in them. I think if it's
if you've got an animal that was so feral or
wild or born in the wild, like Amelia was, it's
in them to be a bitch. She was until the
day she died at the age of sixteen. Don't let's
just I let Amelia do. Amelia. She got food, she
got water, she got a kidder, little clean, but she
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was not gonna come snuggle with you anytime soon. Oh,
Presley was. Pressley was okay with me. I think Presley
was a love Priscilla and Presley turned out to be
loves Wait. Wait, which is a cat that attacked my
face one day?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, that dick? Yeah, you're right, she right nice she was.
She was a bitch too, she was. I was sitting
on the couch one day. I like, this cat was
probably five years old by now, and you think it'd
be great, And all of a sudden I got a
cat in my face by her cat. So at one point,
that's horrible. Presley was about.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Twenty two pounds, yeah, fat, and she had a little
bit of that main coon in her. Yeah, and she
would swat at you and just take you.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah. She was shoe went for my face. Anyway, I
don't even know how we got off topic, except for
just a rescue is a rescue, meet them where they're at.
It was, that's a great that's a great story. Like
you went from feeding a cat under the couch with
a kitty litter under the couch to one day the
cat comes zone and it's like, now, what's up mom?
You know, and like a snuggle bunny. Oh she was.
She was a snuggle bunny.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
She was such a princess that that cat. I oh, Priscilla,
and I love Presley too, And I think that, you know,
at some point we'll delve into this a little bit
more because I know you you've experienced it as have.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I, that you have a very very deep connection animal.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, like a very deep connection. I had Presley for
twenty years. Yeah, and I literally she walked up to
me one day and she was like, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
She had She's like, do you think it's time to
put the cat down? I think she just told me
she wants to be put down. I'm like, yeah, go
do it please, because she's a mess. And you and
you came with me, and I came with you, and
they said one of her sole animals was a cat.
I've had two cats. I'll never get another cat. They
were not my sole animals. They're a little bitches.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But when I when we went, Presley put down, which
sounds terruble. I'm not laughing about Presley being put down.
I'm just laughing because Thanky, you some of Presley's fur
because they thought you were my girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, they're like, and we're not girlfriends. We're not lesbians.
I know we look at right now, but this is
our and every girl will know this. This is your
normal Saturday. I'm hanging out with my girlfriend kind of
look baseball hat, cocktails, animals. Maybe we're listenings. I don't know,
but we're not. They did I remember that they thought that.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You were and they're like, here's some of her for her,
for you, because you know she meant to you too.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, you're like, she attacked my face. I don't. She
means nothing to be cat's a bitch. But I didn't
say that. I didn't say that she was a bit. Yeah.
So the last tip is meet your animal where they are, absolutely,
but shower them with love and kindness and listen. If
you have any type of strife in your house, fighting
with your boyfriend, your kids are loud and obnoxious, anything
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like that. Now because kids can be dicks too. If
that's the case, don't bring a rescue into your house. Absolutely,
if you're thinking of rescuing, make sure your home is
a happy, stable, quiet home. That's my opinion when it
comes to rescues. Oh, I absolutely agree with that. I
totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So nowadays, which is different from years ago, the.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Test days, past days.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Nowadays they would just kind of adopt any dog out
to any family, and so now they're very specific because
of all the people who do behaviors, they do the
behavior training for the dogs, and they're like, please, don't
have this child be in don't have a dog being
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in a house with kids under the age of whatever
it say is.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I worked with two rescue agencies and I was denied.
Maybe they thought I was a little too hyper and loud,
but I don't have kids, my house is quiet. I
put a little college fund away for the rescue and
they both denied me. So I'm pissed. And you know
why they denied me, mostly was because my yard wasn't
big enough. It was fully fenced in small area for
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the dog. But I walk every day. I'm literally my
dog is like, really, three, it's the third time we're walking.
Why are we going to walk again? And so I
get denied the yard wasn't big enough. They came out
and checked my yard too. For all, your yard's bigger
than my, and you've got small dogs. I've got a
big dog with a small yard.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well, yes, but they were not necessarily looking at the
size of the yard. They were looking to see if
there were any gaps in the fact.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
For the dog to get out. There's no gaps in mind.
Little do they know that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I know I have one hundred thousand different creatures who
are digging under.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
My I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Come on, I'm like, oh my god, there's another hole.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Let's get on too. Tips your dog or signs your
dog might have IBD. And that's the only reason I'm
delving into that today is because we got your five
tips and my dog shit on the carpet so and
apparently is colitis. And I have to wrap this up
and go to CVS and get them another medication. If
I have my phone, i'd read, oh, if we're recording
Metra's only I don't remember what it was anyway, So
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my dog on and office whole life has not had
good pooh. Every time you'd bring Charlie over, I'd be like,
oh my god, why can't Jack's poob be like that? Right? Absolutely,
never the best. It was never great. He also had
a lot of regurgitation, where he would either or throw
up undigested food, like and then five minutes later he
wont his dinner and I'd give him a second dinner.
Nothing big, I thought. He was just like, you know,
(24:08):
my dog sensitive or whatever. He's got a sensitive stomach.
Sometimes he would throw up just playing bile, which my
vet would tell me, Oh, it's just you know, your Doug,
just say it's an empty stomach. Give him food before bed,
which I did, and that was okay for a while.
But what brought everything to a head recently, and I
hope that's exactly what it is, knock on wood. I
we still don't know one hundred percent shore, but knock
on wood. He was having the regurgitation. He also all
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his life never really cared about food, and it didn't
matter what it was. My dog was raw fed for
a while, So you throw a raw piece of rabbit down,
I mean he was on beef, he was on chicken.
He never really cared about food, and I think he
probably had gastro issues his whole life. No, what do
you think. I think he probably did.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Because if you threw just about anything, including rabbit poop,
in front of my dog, he did it.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
He's like him, I'm just not hungry, you know, save
it for later. Put it in the fridge, mom, I'll
get it later. So he was never a food motivated
or anything. And then recently I could tell his bark
was off. I know this is strange, but this after
I looked it up, it's one of the number one
signs that your dog could have IBD or gastro issues.
His bark sounded not manly or doggy or do you
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know what I mean, Like he's a boy dog, you'd
be like roough rough. And all of a sudden, it
was like he could barely get his bark out, and
then he would jump on the couch or jump on
the bed, and he would cough. So I went to
see my bench. She said, oh, that's acid reflux. Give
him a pepsid. So I gave him a pepsid, and
then all of a sudden he had explosive diarrhea. So
(25:39):
I stopped the pepsid, and then that the diarrhea and
vomiting never really resolved. And it turns out I don't know.
The pepsid isn't good. I don't. I mean, I still
don't understand it. But he needed a prilo sac. So
those are just some of the and then we went
through an ultrasound. The dog got an ultrasound and it
came back positive for like thickening of his gastro intestinal track,
which is the number one sign of IBD and dogs.
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So basically I have to change his food. He's allergic
to every protein on the planet. I mean, I don't
even know what's happening, right, do you? I don't know. No,
I don't, I don't. I guess I went on a tangent.
My signs are if your dog's bark changes, if they're
coughing when they're playing, or jumping up on the couch
of the bed. That can be acid reflex caused by
IBS or IBD, or just acid reflux because they have
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an empty stomach. If your dog is regurgitating his food
is another sign they have IBD. The feet him a
meal and all of a sudden, they throw it a
few hours later and it's their whole food that they
haven't digested. And then here's another one real quick that
I did not know. If your dog is restless at night,
it's IBD. So they're like, my dog is passed out
right now on the couch. Of course he just pooped
(26:45):
himself silly, but passed out on the couch. But at
night when it's time to go to bed, they're on
and off the bed, on and off the bed, looking
at you. But they don't want to go outside. But
they do have to go outside. That is gastro intestinal stress.
And I think that's great to have because when you do.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Get a dog through a breeder and they're a designer
kind of dog. So my Riley was supposed to be
a designer dog they were breeding. I know she wasn't
she was not designer at all, but that they were
trying to make it a designer dog. Well, it was
a shepherd and a beagle, and they wanted to get
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all the good qualities from the shepherd and all the
great qualities from the beagle. And what ended up happening
is they did except for the bark.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So they started.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Debarking all of them, which we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, it's completely illegal.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
So I think that when you when you buy one
of these designer dogs, and I know a lot of
people who.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Have them and they're so do I with no issues
at all, it's zero but zero issues.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
But you need to be aware that these issues can
come up.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Well yeah, but you look at you look at the breeds,
the poodle and the uh lab or mostly hip I
hip displays it. It's not gastro intestinabule shit, right.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
But it's good to know that it can happen. I mean,
it's great information that you're sharing.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
The damn dog's hips are fine, Yeah, we'retty fine. Fine
is gastro problems? You can't even need a regular meal.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Right, So, but I do think it's important that you
are aware that these things can come up.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It may at least if you get a.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Golden Doodle or a Bernie Doodle, or any type of
design or breed whatever it might be, if you're going
through a reputable breeder, that you can just be aware
that these are things that can come up. Your dog
isn't dying, it's not the end of the world. But
these are the steps that you need to take in
order to do the best for your dog.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Which I think is really good because when you're getting
a rescue dog, you have no idea what their mix is,
and you can't figure out what the hell if something's
wrong with them, if it's part of the breed or absolutely, and.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You're gonna run into it where you don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Their bloodline, you don't know any of that.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
You don't know it's it's the kind of roll of
the dice, total roll of the dice.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
So anyway, I'm dealing with IBD. She got bit by
her dog bitches, and I'm so upset by all of it.
We're fine, Well, you're fine, but I do want to
talk next time we get together, and we'll talk about
degenerative mile myelopathy, degenerati myelopathy, Yeah, which is what her
dog had, and it was she did she did. It
was the first time I've ever heard of it. But
(29:29):
since your dog passed from that, I know so many
people with shepherds, I think it's a shepherd is a
shepherd thing. Probably three of my friends with shepherds, all
their dogs passed from the same disease. Yeah, And I
will tell you we'll get into it next time. The
first sign that Riley had this Lauren's dogs. We were
on a dog walk with her dogs and she was
(29:51):
dragging one of her back legs until it bled, like
the nail, just the toenail was bleeding. Yes, whoa, what
is going on? And that spy rolled. I remember that day.
You're like, should I have it checked? I don't know?
Her nails bleeding? And we both were like, I don't know.
Maybe her nail is too long like whatever, yeap, And
but from there it just it literally spiraled. It did
it did spiral? That was but she was howled when
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she passed. She was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, okay, oh I know that story of Riley, right,
we'll tell it at some point.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But if your dog passes at fifteen, consider yourself blessed
and lucky no matter what the dog passes from. That's
a And she wasn't a small dog, No, she was
probably forty eight. She was the same size as my dog.
Max for him is twelve. He's eleven. Anyway that happened,
(30:42):
sixteen is the max for him. But fifteen, So I
want to talk about that next time too. Definitely. Who
all right, well, listen, I got to get my butt
to CVS and pick up some drugs for my dog's IBD.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And I have to go home and check on my crazy,
whiny little boy.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
You find out why he was crying. I said, were
you holding him? She said no. I said, exactly, he
needs to be held twenty four to seven. I'd be
crying too. But then I picked him. I ever held him,
and he's still whined. And I put him down. He
was still whining. I'm like, what's happening? What is going on?
He's got anxiety.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
He does have anxiety, which we can dip into that
at some point.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, we have so many topics. Listen, hit us up
on let's see, we're on Instagram, We're on Facebook. If
there's any topics she want us to talk about it,
I'm telling you, if I haven't been through it, or
Lauren hasn't been through it, we will do the research
and we will go through it for you. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We are here to support all the dog moms and
dog dad's out there.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
And maybe someday when my dog can play without pooping
himself or breaking a nail, we can have a doggy
play date with everybody who listens to Down with Dogs. Yes,
I would love that. I would love that too. Cheers
Lauren over best co host ever. You guys, thanks for
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(32:04):
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You can listen to us on your smart speaker, iHeartRadio
app and so much more. Down with Dogs podcast, Thanks guys,
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Cheer's Bessie Sears gees, that was good.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I think it was good too. It's hard to tell
when I'm drinking that if we got off at attangent,
but I don't care. No, but I think it's that's
the point and you had the best five
Hey, it is uh the Down with Dogs Podcast. We
are back for our second edition with our new edition,
my bff Lauren, two crazy best friends talking about dogs. Hello, Hello, Hello,
Let me have a superper cocktail because we talk all
about dogs. And if you know us, or if you
tuned into the last episode, do you know Lauren has
(00:21):
three rescues, I've got one non rescue, and we have
to talk about our dogs while having cocktails. So cheers.
Here we go. Hmm, And I think we should kick
it off with a check in. Okay, who should be
checking with first? She would checking with me first? I
don't think so, okay, we'll check it with you. Well,
(00:41):
go ahead, you check it. Lauren's dog bit her in
the arms? What the heck happened? He did?
Speaker 2 (00:47):
I have two very deep dog bite But he's never
bitten you before, Charlie, he's a rescue.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Has he's ever never bitten you before? No? No, so,
because I know she's got a dog, Ollie that bites
her all the time, but Charlie has never.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Been Ollie has not bitten me in a very very
you can't even.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
Say that issued by you at all. But okay, but
that's a rescue. You got to give them time. So
what I have a rescue and he bites me in
the face.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
He's gone, No, Ollie didn't mean to bite me in
the face.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Okay, he was asleep. It was in his slumber and nope, nope.
And he was like, and he bit my nose. All right, Well,
let's talk about Charlie. Charlie has never bitten before, which
is concerning that he bit you. It's not concerning to
me that he bit me.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
I I went out with my mom. We went out
and had lunch, and then we went over to Ocean State,
which I.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
Love, by the way, because I have the best stuff there. Ever, yeah,
they need to get more dog toys. That's just me.
In my Ocean State, they scale back on dog toys
and I'm like, hello, Ocean State, I need more.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
And mine adds more and more and more all the time. Okay,
So there's this big bin of these giant tennis balls.
They were like the size of a soccer ball, but
they looked like a tennis ball. And Charlie loves tennis balls.
Speaker 1 (02:09):
Okay, so who doesn't love balls? He loves good set
of balls.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Anyway, So Charlie, I said to my mom and like,
let's get this. And my mom's always she is the
best for grandma on the planet.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Okay, so she's like, I'm buying this for him.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
And got home and we went outside and we played
with it for a while and he ran around. He
was having a great time, and then my mom laughed,
and so later on the day I was like, well,
I'm gonna take him back outside. I'll kick the ball
around with him and we'll have some fun. And I
went to pick the ball up to throw it for him,
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and he clamped onto my arm.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
I know, but he clamped onto your arm, not even
anywhere near the ball. No, he wasn't. I don't know.
He was just so bad. He was so excited. If
you didn't listen to the last podcast, Charlie's little He's
like a little wiener dog ish thing like that. Just
and he punctured her my armor arm. So it wasn't
even like, so did you punish him or no, because
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you were playing with him and it was kind of
he was coming up to grab the ball, but he
got your arm by accident. I did not punish it, Okay,
I wouldn't have either. I did show him and say,
look what you did. Your mother. You're what you did.
You're never getting another giant.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
You're not getting another giant ball ever. We're not playing
with this ball ever again. So I did not punish him.
I don't believe in punishing.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Here's my question with Charlie, who's very sensitive. When you
showed him your injury, did he acknowledge it? Oh? Absolutely,
I figured he would. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (03:47):
He felt like you could see his giant ears just
went down and he felt so badly that he bit
me and I was bleeding and.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
He was just like, I'm so sorry. He was so
sweet about it. Should we blame this on your mom again?
Going to Ocean State because the last episode we blame
something on your mom, your dog getting loose. You know,
let's blame it on your mom.
Speaker 2 (04:06):
Okay, it's it's Linda's fault.
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It is so not it is so Linda's fault. She
suggested going to Ocean State joblat in the first place. No,
actually I suggested it. Okay, then Linda, it's your fault.
Charlie bit Lauren, Linda Lou you had a middle Nahmer.
She's going to be upset, but one of these days fine,
she is going to be on the show because she
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is the best grandma for grandma ever. She really is.
So let's go over so like check in with me.
So last time we talked, I really didn't get into
my dog's issues. He's had issues his whole life, most
recently diagnosed with IBD irritable bowel disease, which from what
I gather, is worse than irrital irritable bowel syndrome. Anyway,
(04:51):
I'm going to have a story. You have a sip.
Oh my gosh, the last couple of days he's had
inappetance where he just isn't excited about his food and
I don't blame him because he's only eating rice and
egg whites because we haven't figured out a diet for
his IBD yet. So I was like blowing it off.
Uh So, two days ago he vomited up a lot
of foam, and he's he's done it in the past.
(05:13):
This foam was different though. It wasn't that bile foam
where your dog is an empty stomach and they throw up.
It was a lot of weird foam going on, and
I thought, oh, shoot, the hell's going on? Then he
started burping per my vet. She says, to give him
prilo sack. So I give him a Prilo sack twenty
milligram prilo sack, which is omes Oh can you say
the word, Lauren on presmelol? Oh? God, now you've got
(05:38):
me ame masks. That's all right. It's metpersol omeprazol, omeprazol,
which is different than fammtidine, which is pepsid. Pepsid doesn't
work as good on IBD dogs as omeprazol does. So
I give him a Prila Sackbut an hour later he's fine.
I give him something to eat. He's feeling okay. He's
acting a little off, but not horribly off. So I
give it to him today. I say, no, I'm gonna
(05:59):
give another one to keep him on the priva set
for a couple of days. He's got acid reflux. Let's
get an under control. I give him a private sack,
take him for a nice walk, give him his meal.
Lauren comes over. We rip a couple shots, and then
we decided that we didn't know we did not. He
said we're gonna leave. We're gonna go do a little
shopping for like. I think we were gone an hour,
gone an hour. When I came back, this dog who's eleven,
(06:19):
who has never pooped in my house before pooped in
the house. I don't even want to get into it,
but should I? It was really gross. Okay, it was
formed for you IBD parents out there, was formed, but
it did have a little bit of blood mucus in it.
Sorry I said that. So anyway, of course, then I
go Google Frenzy and then Lauren finds out that private
sac can cause colitis and dogs. So then I fire
(06:43):
off an email to my vet who told me to
give him Privo. Second she says he's got colitis. No shit, Sherlock. Anyway,
thank you Google dot com. Yes, and I don't have
my phone next to me, but they just email me
back and he's gonna start another medication. They're gonna call
into CVS for his colitis that was caused by the
Privo sect that told me to give him for his
ib day. You can't make this shit up. No, you cannot,
(07:06):
literally can't. And I'm and I've been telling you morea
for the last couple of days. He's just acting weird.
Something's off, he's not eating. It's not he I can
just tell my dog, and you can tell your dog's
when they're off. Well, mine was off this morning. When
she left the house today, her dog Allie was like
whining and crying the whole time. He's never he is
the classic Papion corgy.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Mix with this like really high pitched squeeze, like it's
just like like it's so loud, but he only does
it every now and again, and like it'll start barking
and I'm like stop and he'll go into his high
pitched wine. Well, he just would not stop whining. And
this will tie into the homework you gave me with
(07:53):
the rescues. Yeah, he wouldn't stop whining, and I felt like,
I'm like, he.
Speaker 1 (07:57):
Just means a little downtime. Downtime.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
He's a little too overstimulated and he needs to just
sit in his I have a giant pen for him.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
He's not created. He's got a giant pen. However, creating's
okay because my boy Jack likes a nice smart crate.
He feels secure.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
I have no problem with creating. His crate is inside his.
Speaker 1 (08:18):
Pen, so he can do what he wants. He can
do what he wants.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
There's a blanket in the crate and then I put
his favorite little thing in there with him whatever, but
he wouldn't stop blinding. So I said, well, I'm just
gonna I'm just gonna go like I'm gonna go, and
he's gonna calm down and he'll be okay. So hopefully
when I get home I have three dogs.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
Still, No, you will, you will. But it's funny because
before I'm going to coming up, I'm going to give
you a signed Your dog might have IBD just from
my dog signs. But I did give you homework. So
this is really leading us into your homework, which has
come up with five tips for rescues. If you're bringing
a rescue home, there are so many things you need
to know. It's so different than if you to go
go to a breeder and get a puppy, entirely different animal,
(09:04):
and you have rescued. Every animal you've ever had has
been a rescue, from cats to dogs and who knows what.
So we need five tips. If you're bringing home a rescue,
give them to us, no pressure, give them to us.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Okay, So I am going to say that I didn't
do my homework in the traditional sense that you want
me to do my home.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
No, No, you lived it. I lived itactly. Here's his
life homework. I'm not asking you to google anything or anybody. No,
I want five tips from you because you're a rescue person.
You've lived through it, you have had many different rescues, sizes, ages, sexes,
and it's all the same. The five tips will be
the same for anything you bring home to your house
(09:45):
from a rescue.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Absolutely, so I would say the number one thing is,
again we talked about this last time, is that they
have been through the ringer, so you have to give them,
i'm a safe space. You have to make them feel safe.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
So that's number one. Which is a crate, a pen,
their own little treats and treasures and toys. So a
safe space. I love them. Yes, they have that. They
just have to have a safe space. I love it.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
You cannot raise your voice, Okay, that should be reserved.
We talked about this before too, that you raising your
voice is if a your pet is an imminent danger
or something.
Speaker 1 (10:33):
Right, just save that loud voice for when they're all
settled in.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
Yes, you need to make sure that you have a routine.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Okay, So one is a safe space. Two, don't raise
your voice. Three is a routine. They need a routine,
and so the routine is like feet at the same time,
walk at the same time. Yes.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Yes, So for me with my dogs, when I get
up in the morning, I immediately let them out.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Is this a time though, Like when you say routine,
are they are you getting up at seven o'clock because
they go out at seven oh five?
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Yes, okay, okay, yes, And that time can range for anybody,
like if you get up at ten o'clock, then you
get up at ten o'clock.
Speaker 1 (11:12):
That's where you let them out. But what I'm saying
is a routine. Isn't you waking up at seven in
the morning two days a week and then at ten
the next You've got to stick to a time. You
have to stick to a time.
Speaker 2 (11:21):
So they go out at the same time almost every
single morning.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
Love that.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
And then we come back in and Mommy gets her coffee, okay,
and they know that. They they literally hear my coffee
pot because I'm old school, okay, is set to program.
So my coffee pot goes off at seven am every
single day, and they hear that, and that's them acknowledges
(11:49):
it's coming, everything's coming. So I let them out, come
back in, get my coffee, put my coffee pot, uh
my coffee, mug down and then.
Speaker 1 (11:56):
They get fed. So whatever it is, we don't have
to go through the full room routine. You need a
routine with a rescue dog at least. I mean, I
think every dog needs a routine the whole life. That's
just me absolute life. Keep them on a nice routine.
They like it. It's probably just like babies, but it's
very important when it's a rescue animal to maintain a
specific routine that you do daily for two years at least,
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or until they've settled.
Speaker 2 (12:23):
Until they settled, we talked about that. Sometimes it takes
more than two years.
Speaker 1 (12:26):
All right, a routine, yes, and then four. I've got four,
you've got five. I know you've got five. We're on
number four now. Said the leash.
Speaker 2 (12:37):
It is the leash you must so. I know a
lot of people will do a collar and a leash,
and I don't agree with a collar and a leash
because they can pull themselves out of their collar.
Speaker 1 (12:52):
Yes, you need a not if you're gonna heart. You
have to have a heart. If you have a collar.
My dog has a no slip collar. They can never
get out of it. They can't slip out of it.
It's called a no slip collar. They're hard to find.
Harness one hundred percent.
Speaker 2 (13:03):
Yeah, they need to be harnessed because they get very
nervous and they start panicking yep, and they'll wiggle their
way out and they'll that again that like I've got
to get away from this person for no other reason
that I'm terrified.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, I love that. So the fourth tip is when
you bring your rescue home and I don't care. We
talked about this before. If you're like, play with your
dog and he he follows me everywhere and he's listening
to me, but he's a rescue he should always be
or she on it with a harness and a leash
for a long time till you figure it out. Because
you don't know what triggers these animals. They've been in
a shelter, they've been abused, you don't know. So harness
(13:37):
and leash, yes, okay, five. I know you can come
up with a fifth one a rescue dog that you
bring home and these are all your dogs. Like the
important tips, So I think I have to say that.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
I think one of the most important thing things is
to just smother them with love.
Speaker 1 (13:58):
Way if they accept smothering. But if oh, yeah, you
can't go right up to them because you don't know them.
So just show them love and whatever they're ready to accept,
absolutely wherever we're So it's kind of.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Like we talk about teaching our children and people I
don't have any children. They always say you need to
meet them where they're at.
Speaker 1 (14:23):
You cannot make them meet you where you're at.
Speaker 2 (14:28):
So you need to make sure you're meeting your rescue
where it's at, and you're providing them like it's like
a garden too, Like your garden's.
Speaker 1 (14:39):
Not going to grow just by you being like, stomach,
don't do that. I need you to grow. So, if
your dog is a rescue, you bring them home and
they're obviously cowering or hiding in the corner, you leave
out a cute for a toy, You talk in a
low voice, you always maintain it calm, calm, and then
they come out, they accept the toy. Then you give
them another toy, or you give them a little pat
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or you start slow with him. But if you've got
a rescue dog that just wants love, you give him love.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
You do you remember when I brought Priscilla home, my cat? Yes,
So Priscilla was terrified.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
She had been so abused.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
She was and I brought her home from the Humane Society,
which by the way, I love the humane side, which
is now Human.
Speaker 1 (15:16):
World, which we've talked about.
Speaker 2 (15:18):
And she was under my couch and she refused to
come out from under the couch.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
How long did she stay out of there for? Oh,
like you're talking days, and you put food by the couch.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
So not only did I put food under the couch,
I took the top of a shoe box, and I
put kitty litter in the top of a shoe box
and I slid it under the couch so that she
could just live there. And then one day I got
up in the morning and I was getting her food
ready to put it under the couch, and she came
(15:52):
out and she I turned around. I looked at her,
and she goes. I was like, don't make any sudden movements,
don't move who just stand still?
Speaker 1 (16:02):
Oh yeah, hear the gouits. And after that she was great,
best cat ever, best And how old was she when
she asked? She was fifteen? Yeah, so she was. She
lived a long, great life with you, she did, but
it took a long time. I mean you were putting
food and kitty litter under the couch. I was, so,
you have to let them go at their own pace.
I feel you cannot force a rescue. They'll it'll They'll
(16:23):
make that connection at some point it will click in
their brain. It will I'm safe and I'm okay. And
that's what happened to Priscilla. She came out. She's like, manah,
where's my food?
Speaker 2 (16:31):
Was up?
Speaker 1 (16:31):
Yeah? And then there was Presley.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yep, who I literally was out on New Year's afternoon.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
New Year's Day afternoon.
Speaker 2 (16:41):
Right, and I went to Animal City was this place in.
Speaker 1 (16:46):
Vernon, and I went in.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
I don't know how I went in, but I went
in and they're like, oh, we just had somebody dump
a litter of kittens.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
And I was like, oh my god. If I was there,
I be like, please don't tell my girlfriend that, because
she will come home with every animal or to her home.
I always said, girlfriend, we're not dating, but she will
take any animal that needs a home to her house.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Are there worse things out there than dating me that
you had to profess?
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Probably No, that's probably the worst.
Speaker 2 (17:15):
So anyway, I was sitting and Presley she chose me.
Speaker 1 (17:21):
I didn't choose her. She came.
Speaker 2 (17:23):
She sat in my lap, and she was about six
weeks old at the time, and said all right. They're like, well,
you gotta buy her litter box and you gotta buy
her this. And I was like whatever, I'll buy it allhla.
So I brought her home and I had to feed
her like with a little baby bottle because she was
so little old.
Speaker 1 (17:40):
Yeah, yep, she was the biggest bitch on the planet. Listen,
we'll get into it some day. I had a cat
named Amelia. I named her Amelia Earhart because she fell
out of a tree. She did. I was riding my
horse in a field and I heard screeching and I
looked up and it was a kitten, eyes still closed
and there was a hawk getting to eat this wild kitten. Yes,
(18:02):
and I did everything I thought was right with this
wild kit. I mean she was three days old. I
was feeding with a dropper too. She turned out to
be the biggest bitch on the planet. Yeah, because they
why don't you think it would they be a lap
lap cat?
Speaker 2 (18:14):
And like no, because they know no what that You've
brought them home because they were in distress and now
they have the you know idle like.
Speaker 1 (18:24):
I think it's just in them. I think if it's
if you've got an animal that was so feral or
wild or born in the wild, like Amelia was, it's
in them to be a bitch. She was until the
day she died at the age of sixteen. Don't let's
just I let Amelia do. Amelia. She got food, she
got water, she got a kidder, little clean, but she
(18:45):
was not gonna come snuggle with you anytime soon. Oh,
Presley was. Pressley was okay with me. I think Presley
was a love Priscilla and Presley turned out to be
loves Wait. Wait, which is a cat that attacked my
face one day?
Speaker 2 (19:00):
Oh?
Speaker 1 (19:00):
Yeah, that dick? Yeah, you're right, she right nice she was.
She was a bitch too, she was. I was sitting
on the couch one day. I like, this cat was
probably five years old by now, and you think it'd
be great, And all of a sudden I got a
cat in my face by her cat. So at one point,
that's horrible. Presley was about.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Twenty two pounds, yeah, fat, and she had a little
bit of that main coon in her. Yeah, and she
would swat at you and just take you.
Speaker 1 (19:27):
Yeah. She was shoe went for my face. Anyway, I
don't even know how we got off topic, except for
just a rescue is a rescue, meet them where they're at.
It was, that's a great that's a great story. Like
you went from feeding a cat under the couch with
a kitty litter under the couch to one day the
cat comes zone and it's like, now, what's up mom?
You know, and like a snuggle bunny. Oh she was.
She was a snuggle bunny.
Speaker 2 (19:48):
She was such a princess that that cat. I oh, Priscilla,
and I love Presley too, And I think that, you know,
at some point we'll delve into this a little bit
more because I know you you've experienced it as have.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
I, that you have a very very deep connection animal.
Speaker 2 (20:06):
Yeah, like a very deep connection. I had Presley for
twenty years. Yeah, and I literally she walked up to
me one day and she was like, I'm done.
Speaker 1 (20:18):
She had She's like, do you think it's time to
put the cat down? I think she just told me
she wants to be put down. I'm like, yeah, go
do it please, because she's a mess. And you and
you came with me, and I came with you, and
they said one of her sole animals was a cat.
I've had two cats. I'll never get another cat. They
were not my sole animals. They're a little bitches.
Speaker 2 (20:38):
But when I when we went, Presley put down, which
sounds terruble. I'm not laughing about Presley being put down.
I'm just laughing because Thanky, you some of Presley's fur
because they thought you were my girlfriend.
Speaker 1 (20:50):
Yeah, they're like, and we're not girlfriends. We're not lesbians.
I know we look at right now, but this is
our and every girl will know this. This is your
normal Saturday. I'm hanging out with my girlfriend kind of
look baseball hat, cocktails, animals. Maybe we're listenings. I don't know,
but we're not. They did I remember that they thought that.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
You were and they're like, here's some of her for her,
for you, because you know she meant to you too.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
Yeah, you're like, she attacked my face. I don't. She
means nothing to be cat's a bitch. But I didn't
say that. I didn't say that she was a bit. Yeah.
So the last tip is meet your animal where they are, absolutely,
but shower them with love and kindness and listen. If
you have any type of strife in your house, fighting
with your boyfriend, your kids are loud and obnoxious, anything
(21:37):
like that. Now because kids can be dicks too. If
that's the case, don't bring a rescue into your house. Absolutely,
if you're thinking of rescuing, make sure your home is
a happy, stable, quiet home. That's my opinion when it
comes to rescues. Oh, I absolutely agree with that. I
totally agree with that.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
So nowadays, which is different from years ago, the.
Speaker 1 (22:00):
Test days, past days.
Speaker 2 (22:01):
Nowadays they would just kind of adopt any dog out
to any family, and so now they're very specific because
of all the people who do behaviors, they do the
behavior training for the dogs, and they're like, please, don't
have this child be in don't have a dog being
(22:21):
in a house with kids under the age of whatever
it say is.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
I worked with two rescue agencies and I was denied.
Maybe they thought I was a little too hyper and loud,
but I don't have kids, my house is quiet. I
put a little college fund away for the rescue and
they both denied me. So I'm pissed. And you know
why they denied me, mostly was because my yard wasn't
big enough. It was fully fenced in small area for
(22:45):
the dog. But I walk every day. I'm literally my
dog is like, really, three, it's the third time we're walking.
Why are we going to walk again? And so I
get denied the yard wasn't big enough. They came out
and checked my yard too. For all, your yard's bigger
than my, and you've got small dogs. I've got a
big dog with a small yard.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Well, yes, but they were not necessarily looking at the
size of the yard. They were looking to see if
there were any gaps in the fact.
Speaker 1 (23:10):
For the dog to get out. There's no gaps in mind.
Little do they know that.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
I know I have one hundred thousand different creatures who
are digging under.
Speaker 1 (23:19):
My I know, I know.
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Come on, I'm like, oh my god, there's another hole.
Speaker 1 (23:24):
Let's get on too. Tips your dog or signs your
dog might have IBD. And that's the only reason I'm
delving into that today is because we got your five
tips and my dog shit on the carpet so and
apparently is colitis. And I have to wrap this up
and go to CVS and get them another medication. If
I have my phone, i'd read, oh, if we're recording
Metra's only I don't remember what it was anyway, So
(23:47):
my dog on and office whole life has not had
good pooh. Every time you'd bring Charlie over, I'd be like,
oh my god, why can't Jack's poob be like that? Right? Absolutely,
never the best. It was never great. He also had
a lot of regurgitation, where he would either or throw
up undigested food, like and then five minutes later he
wont his dinner and I'd give him a second dinner.
Nothing big, I thought. He was just like, you know,
(24:08):
my dog sensitive or whatever. He's got a sensitive stomach.
Sometimes he would throw up just playing bile, which my
vet would tell me, Oh, it's just you know, your Doug,
just say it's an empty stomach. Give him food before bed,
which I did, and that was okay for a while.
But what brought everything to a head recently, and I
hope that's exactly what it is, knock on wood. I
we still don't know one hundred percent shore, but knock
on wood. He was having the regurgitation. He also all
(24:32):
his life never really cared about food, and it didn't
matter what it was. My dog was raw fed for
a while, So you throw a raw piece of rabbit down,
I mean he was on beef, he was on chicken.
He never really cared about food, and I think he
probably had gastro issues his whole life. No, what do
you think. I think he probably did.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Because if you threw just about anything, including rabbit poop,
in front of my dog, he did it.
Speaker 1 (24:56):
He's like him, I'm just not hungry, you know, save
it for later. Put it in the fridge, mom, I'll
get it later. So he was never a food motivated
or anything. And then recently I could tell his bark
was off. I know this is strange, but this after
I looked it up, it's one of the number one
signs that your dog could have IBD or gastro issues.
His bark sounded not manly or doggy or do you
(25:19):
know what I mean, Like he's a boy dog, you'd
be like roough rough. And all of a sudden, it
was like he could barely get his bark out, and
then he would jump on the couch or jump on
the bed, and he would cough. So I went to
see my bench. She said, oh, that's acid reflux. Give
him a pepsid. So I gave him a pepsid, and
then all of a sudden he had explosive diarrhea. So
(25:39):
I stopped the pepsid, and then that the diarrhea and
vomiting never really resolved. And it turns out I don't know.
The pepsid isn't good. I don't. I mean, I still
don't understand it. But he needed a prilo sac. So
those are just some of the and then we went
through an ultrasound. The dog got an ultrasound and it
came back positive for like thickening of his gastro intestinal track,
which is the number one sign of IBD and dogs.
(26:01):
So basically I have to change his food. He's allergic
to every protein on the planet. I mean, I don't
even know what's happening, right, do you? I don't know. No,
I don't, I don't. I guess I went on a tangent.
My signs are if your dog's bark changes, if they're
coughing when they're playing, or jumping up on the couch
of the bed. That can be acid reflex caused by
IBS or IBD, or just acid reflux because they have
(26:24):
an empty stomach. If your dog is regurgitating his food
is another sign they have IBD. The feet him a
meal and all of a sudden, they throw it a
few hours later and it's their whole food that they
haven't digested. And then here's another one real quick that
I did not know. If your dog is restless at night,
it's IBD. So they're like, my dog is passed out
right now on the couch. Of course he just pooped
(26:45):
himself silly, but passed out on the couch. But at
night when it's time to go to bed, they're on
and off the bed, on and off the bed, looking
at you. But they don't want to go outside. But
they do have to go outside. That is gastro intestinal stress.
And I think that's great to have because when you do.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
Get a dog through a breeder and they're a designer
kind of dog. So my Riley was supposed to be
a designer dog they were breeding. I know she wasn't
she was not designer at all, but that they were
trying to make it a designer dog. Well, it was
a shepherd and a beagle, and they wanted to get
(27:24):
all the good qualities from the shepherd and all the
great qualities from the beagle. And what ended up happening
is they did except for the bark.
Speaker 1 (27:31):
So they started.
Speaker 2 (27:32):
Debarking all of them, which we'll talk.
Speaker 1 (27:34):
Yeah, it's completely illegal.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
So I think that when you when you buy one
of these designer dogs, and I know a lot of
people who.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
Have them and they're so do I with no issues
at all, it's zero but zero issues.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
But you need to be aware that these issues can
come up.
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Well yeah, but you look at you look at the breeds,
the poodle and the uh lab or mostly hip I
hip displays it. It's not gastro intestinabule shit, right.
Speaker 2 (28:05):
But it's good to know that it can happen. I mean,
it's great information that you're sharing.
Speaker 1 (28:09):
The damn dog's hips are fine, Yeah, we'retty fine. Fine
is gastro problems? You can't even need a regular meal.
Speaker 2 (28:17):
Right, So, but I do think it's important that you
are aware that these things can come up.
Speaker 1 (28:23):
It may at least if you get a.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Golden Doodle or a Bernie Doodle, or any type of
design or breed whatever it might be, if you're going
through a reputable breeder, that you can just be aware
that these are things that can come up. Your dog
isn't dying, it's not the end of the world. But
these are the steps that you need to take in
order to do the best for your dog.
Speaker 1 (28:48):
Which I think is really good because when you're getting
a rescue dog, you have no idea what their mix is,
and you can't figure out what the hell if something's
wrong with them, if it's part of the breed or absolutely, and.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
You're gonna run into it where you don't know.
Speaker 1 (29:00):
Their bloodline, you don't know any of that.
Speaker 2 (29:02):
You don't know it's it's the kind of roll of
the dice, total roll of the dice.
Speaker 1 (29:08):
So anyway, I'm dealing with IBD. She got bit by
her dog bitches, and I'm so upset by all of it.
We're fine, Well, you're fine, but I do want to
talk next time we get together, and we'll talk about
degenerative mile myelopathy, degenerati myelopathy, Yeah, which is what her
dog had, and it was she did she did. It
was the first time I've ever heard of it. But
(29:29):
since your dog passed from that, I know so many
people with shepherds, I think it's a shepherd is a
shepherd thing. Probably three of my friends with shepherds, all
their dogs passed from the same disease. Yeah, And I
will tell you we'll get into it next time. The
first sign that Riley had this Lauren's dogs. We were
on a dog walk with her dogs and she was
(29:51):
dragging one of her back legs until it bled, like
the nail, just the toenail was bleeding. Yes, whoa, what
is going on? And that spy rolled. I remember that day.
You're like, should I have it checked? I don't know?
Her nails bleeding? And we both were like, I don't know.
Maybe her nail is too long like whatever, yeap, And
but from there it just it literally spiraled. It did
it did spiral? That was but she was howled when
(30:14):
she passed. She was fifteen.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
Yeah, okay, oh I know that story of Riley, right,
we'll tell it at some point.
Speaker 1 (30:22):
But if your dog passes at fifteen, consider yourself blessed
and lucky no matter what the dog passes from. That's
a And she wasn't a small dog, No, she was
probably forty eight. She was the same size as my dog.
Max for him is twelve. He's eleven. Anyway that happened,
(30:42):
sixteen is the max for him. But fifteen, So I
want to talk about that next time too. Definitely. Who
all right, well, listen, I got to get my butt
to CVS and pick up some drugs for my dog's IBD.
Speaker 2 (30:55):
And I have to go home and check on my crazy,
whiny little boy.
Speaker 1 (31:00):
You find out why he was crying. I said, were
you holding him? She said no. I said, exactly, he
needs to be held twenty four to seven. I'd be
crying too. But then I picked him. I ever held him,
and he's still whined. And I put him down. He
was still whining. I'm like, what's happening? What is going on?
He's got anxiety.
Speaker 2 (31:19):
He does have anxiety, which we can dip into that
at some point.
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Yeah, we have so many topics. Listen, hit us up
on let's see, we're on Instagram, We're on Facebook. If
there's any topics she want us to talk about it,
I'm telling you, if I haven't been through it, or
Lauren hasn't been through it, we will do the research
and we will go through it for you. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (31:35):
We are here to support all the dog moms and
dog dad's out there.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
And maybe someday when my dog can play without pooping
himself or breaking a nail, we can have a doggy
play date with everybody who listens to Down with Dogs. Yes,
I would love that. I would love that too. Cheers
Lauren over best co host ever. You guys, thanks for
listening to our podcast. Don't forget you. Check us out
on all your social plus, wherever you get your podcast.
We're on Apple Podcasts too. We're on a l e XA.
(32:04):
I can't say her name because she'll start playing it.
You can listen to us on your smart speaker, iHeartRadio
app and so much more. Down with Dogs podcast, Thanks guys,
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (32:13):
Cheer's Bessie Sears gees, that was good.
Speaker 1 (32:26):
I think it was good too. It's hard to tell
when I'm drinking that if we got off at attangent,
but I don't care. No, but I think it's that's
the point and you had the best five
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