23andMe is Changing Hands | Iowa Men's BBall Gets New Coach | NIL

23andMe is Changing Hands | Iowa Men's BBall Gets New Coach | NIL

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
They don't hire a lot of coaches over in Iowa City,

(00:02):
you know, they don't have a lot of coaching changes, so.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
That don't keep much tabs on the Hawkeyes, to be honest,
And also, I'm not even really sure who Ben McCallum is.

Speaker 1 (00:09):
He is the Drake head coach. Led in a thirty
four and one or thirty one and four record this year,
lost in the second round of the NCAA Tournament, first
time they've made it to the round of thirty two
since nineteen seventy one. He was a four time national
champion head coach at Division two with Northwest Missouri State. Okay,
the one year he spent at Drake, he got on
the national radar for a lot of different reasons. He's

(00:30):
an Iowa City native, So this is the kind of
guy that probably is going to build his life in
his hometown and want to be the Iowa head coach
for the next twenty years.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
They got a local guy. They got a guy around town,
you know, that can stick around. It makes sense for them,
It makes a lot of sense, I would say.

Speaker 1 (00:46):
So if you're a Hawkeye fan, we'll take your thoughts
on that at some point today. If you want to
email me Emrie at kfab dot com. Door number one
or three. Let's do number three. Greenland. I say, Greenland.
You say, what is what is your.

Speaker 2 (01:00):
In the recent news? I say, you know, Greenland is
in the news more than it ever has been, at
least in my lifetime. Talks about the United States trying
to what's that called annex I mean you're not annexing.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
No, you're buying yeah by I would say, bye bye, yeah, Yeah.
They're not happy.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Can't blame them.

Speaker 1 (01:22):
Greenland's prime minister, his name is mute Egady, is not
happy that second lady Usha Vance Ussia Usha Vance. Gosh,
I'm so bad with foreign names. I no, no, but
I can check Usha Ussha missus Vance jd. Vance's wife
is visiting Greenland. That means something to you. Do you

(01:42):
take any credence to that? Do you take any Is
that important to you?

Speaker 2 (01:46):
You think? Given the context, I could see if you're
a resident of Greenland and you don't want to be
moved over to under the United States's care, you'd feel like,
are they coming to kick the tires? What's going on here?

Speaker 1 (01:58):
Right?

Speaker 2 (01:59):
Well?

Speaker 1 (02:00):
The Prime Minister mutde Egade says, the visit by missus
vance one of her sons, and a US delegation that
was announced last Thursday is not good. Egady says, we
are now at a level where we can't where it
can in no way be characterized as a harmless visit

(02:20):
from a politician's wife, which is a prospect because what
is the security advisor doing in Greenland?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Usha? Is what I'm hearing?

Speaker 1 (02:28):
Usha?

Speaker 2 (02:28):
How to pronounce her name?

Speaker 1 (02:29):
Sorry? Usha? The only purpose is to show a demonstration
of power to us, and the signal is not to
be misunderstood. Mike Waltz is Trump's confidential and closest advisor,
and his presence in Greenland alone will certainly make the
Americans believe in Trump's mission and the pressure will increase
after the visit end quote. So what do you think?
What do you think? You're at Greenland there? How do

(02:52):
you feel about this? Also? Remember the new party in charge,
which we talked about, is kind of more central moderate right,
a little bit or right than it is left. But
they are also more pro Greenland independence than Greenland going
anywhere and doesn't really like the idea of what's going down.
In fact, that guy, the leader of the Democratic Party, uh,

(03:17):
he said this is a threat to our political independence.
So Mute is about to leave. He's in a more
of a liberal party. The guy who's coming in the
guy from the more democratic party, which don't get it
too mixed up. He's going to be a little bit
more to the center, right. But yeah, yeah, it's basically

(03:37):
just saying, look, we want to be independent. This United
States business get out of our face, and they are
not taking kindly to Usha. Vant's showing what is that
a weird I guess In the second Lady of all people,
the Greenland, what do we say? Fifty six thousand people
live there in the entire island, which is larger than
the state of Alaska's three times the size of Texas.

(03:58):
It's all about security and maybe some of the rare
earth minerals that they have there. What are we doing here?

Speaker 2 (04:04):
We'll see what comes of it.

Speaker 1 (04:05):
I mean, Mike Waltz, if he's involved, that's a little
bit of a different deal. But Usha being there is
just kind of like a It's a little odd to me, like,
of all the people, we would be sending Usha in
one of the van's kids, like, are they going on vacation?
I thought we've also said that there's really not a
great spot.

Speaker 2 (04:26):
I'm sure people vacation in Greenland, I don't think. But
the yeah, the timing of this thing, yeah, I don't
think so. I don't think so. Right now.

Speaker 1 (04:33):
The Inuit people who live there don't seem to be
very keen on the United States being involved here greatly.
That leaves door number one. Am I right?

Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yep?

Speaker 1 (04:43):
Oh boy, twenty three and meters has gone bankrupt. Did
you do one of those genetic testing? I did one,
but I'm not sure it was them. It was somebody else.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
I'm not sure. It was so many years ago. It
was through National Geographic Magazine.

Speaker 1 (04:57):
That's probably not them. Then, Okay, so the if you've
not done this and I haven't done it, not that
I'm opposed to doing it, because I'd like to know
kind of my background. I think a little bit more.
You can do this with your dog, right, you know,
like you go get your dog genetically tested to see
all the breeds that he might be if you got
like an All American dog or what we used to
call him mutt, And what you would do is you

(05:18):
would like get a blood sample and the blood would
go back to them and they would be able to
genetically figure out what your lineage is, and this kind
of testing you could do in a lot of different ways.
I think I've told this story before, but my wife's
mother did a blood test through a family tree website.
I don't think it was twenty three meters, but it

(05:39):
was something else, and they were able to get a
firm one hundred percent match for her father, her biological father.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Neither of them knew who they were, right, Like, I mean,
it was just a crazy, convoluted situation. But my wife
learned about who her grandpa was because her mom did
one of these tests. So I don't want to say
that they're not worth doing because I think they especially
if you're in that scenario. It's I mean, if you

(06:08):
have any chance of finding your biological parents, wouldn't you Yeah,
you know so. But either way, there have been more
than fifteen million people who have used the twenty three
and meters DNA testing kit, and there's quite a bit
of different notes in here, and I think it's best
for me to try to go through these one at

(06:29):
a time when I come after the break. So if
you also, let's open the phones if anybody's used twenty
three in me. I would love to hear from you
about the customer service experience, experience, or if you would
recommend it to somebody, especially now knowing that they are
kind of going bankrupt and that it's going to be

(06:50):
for sale. But that doesn't mean that your personal genetic
informations for sale. It's just that the company itself is
for sale. But it can be kind of a confusing
thing because of course, they at one point had your
genetic information. If you want to call us, if you
have experience with twenty three and Me, go ahead and
give us a phone. Er. Four h two five five
eight eleven ten is the number. Four oh two five

(07:10):
five eight eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten, kfab and
rais songer. As far as twenty three and Me goes,
they kind of do things a bit differently, and this situation,
you know, the data that they have put into twenty
three and Me could be kind of up in the air.
If you will now that the company very well could
be up for sale. First of all, I'm curious for

(07:32):
people who have actually used twenty three and Me. Would
love to hear from you. Four oh two five five
eight eleven ten is the number. Four oh two, five, five, eight, eleven, ten,
and Mark is there on the line, Mark, what can
you tell me about this?

Speaker 3 (07:43):
Sure? So here's how I used twenty three and me.
So I did it probably five years ago. And what
I did was I did the twenty three and me
did this slob thing and all that, and then I
actually downloaded my own raw data and then through three
different clinics for a variety of reasons, I actually had

(08:05):
to analyze the data as part of a blood test
slash kind of like can you optimize your life kind
of thing. And the one thing I found very important
was one me, personally, I have like a ninety percent
chance of becoming schizophrenic if I use THHC or you know,

(08:25):
smoke breed whatever, and that super beneficial. Then I also
found that I was basically allergic to synthetic vitamin E,
which means can don't take a multivitemin and I've used
that like actually had that data sent to my cardiologist
and all that. And I found it useful and cheap

(08:46):
because a lot of these same clinics they charge you,
you know, an astronomical amount to do your DNA on
top of the blood test. So I do like a
blood test every year. It's about a thousand bucks. There's
only one lab around here that does it right, and
then they would combine that with the DNA and come
up with, hey, it is what you should eat not eat,

(09:07):
you know, do and not do. And the odd thing
is it's nearly one hundred percent, you know, right on
the money. So far as stuff I already kind of
knew about myself, but it does make a big difference.

Speaker 1 (09:20):
So Mark, did you use twenty three meets and get
like family tree stuff, because I like, okay, So that
wasn't the point. It was just you're trying to like
know your own makeup. That way you can be as
healthy as you can be.

Speaker 3 (09:31):
Health issues, and it does give you like factors so
that like if you don't have a factor for XYZ
cancer risk are very low factor, then you don't focus
on that. So so I used it on the health
side along with you know a couple of companies, and
one of those one bankrupt too. But I do intend
on like going out there and deleting my account because

(09:53):
I don't really use it. Yeah, of course, and I
already have the raw data. Your DNA raw data tends
to not change, so you really only need it once.
And you know, I do know from being kind of
in this industry a little bit. There are a lot
of you know, sketchy DNA companies for sure, and I'm

(10:13):
not seeing they weren't, but I think intent was kind
of sell this data in bulk, not necessarily with your
name on it, but you know it was as a
preventative thing.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
No, And I think that's really good information, Mark, because
I know people have done that too, and it's made
a huge difference in their health because they just know
what to eat and like what their their body makeup
kind of is. I know a lot of people have
done the twenty three and meters just because they want
to know what their ancestry is. So there's a lot
of different ways, but I think you hit on why
exactly this maybe not might not be a great model

(10:48):
for long term financial success. It's that once you use
it once, you really don't need it ever again.

Speaker 3 (10:52):
Right, I mean, didn't log in, didn't care who my
relatives were, didn't really care.

Speaker 1 (10:59):
Yeah, good stuff.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
Thanks for calling in today.

Speaker 1 (11:02):
Yep, you too, So that's Uh, don't I like the
idea do the blood test to see what my body
might be sensitive? For foods, especially if I start, you know,
gaining some big time weight, Like as my body ages
and changes, you can kind of, you know, your body
can get a little thicker, and sometimes you can get
a blood test and they're like, hey, food X just
is not jive in with your you right now. If

(11:24):
you want to like maintain a healthy weight, it might
be best to steer clear of these ten foods kind
of thing. I've read that that is like it's life
changing for people when they just know that information. So
it's something i'd keep in mind as far as twenty
three and me, you know, and like I said, I
don't have kind of the urge to go out of
my way and test myself just for ancestry purposes. I'm

(11:48):
getting a little more curious as the years go on
about my lineage. And we kind of joked about this
last week during Saint Patrick's Day. You know how irish
some of us are. But twenty three and me, as
far as their customer data, he said, it was like
a swab, you know, kind of like a spit in
a tube thing. It's not like you draw blood and
send it. It is just a spit swab thing, and
they can you know through DNA that way get the

(12:10):
information that they need. And the company said eighty percent
of the customers give their consent to participate in research programs.
So you opt in, you have to like check mark
and say I'm opting into a research whether it's like
a service provider contract or a contractor, so they can
like do some sort of research and if you opt

(12:31):
into that, right, I mean, it's just like when you're
on your computer and you'll say you're opting into this,
that and the other thing. When we do our brackets,
you can opt into big national contests. But when you
opt in, that means those companies get your email address
and then they can like email you and stuff, which
to some people that's not a fair trade. Sure, I
might want to win five million dollars in my bracket's

(12:51):
really good, but I also don't want to be spam
emailed by this company over and over again. Well, they
say independent activities performed by the company or in joint
projects or with third parties. That is according to their
mission statement. So essentially they basically say, look, when we
have your information, if you opt in, this could go
to any number of places. Also, the data is not

(13:12):
ever shared with public databases, insurance companies or law enforcement
without a search war, a subpoena, or a valid court order.
That would make me feel better. Right, It's just like Okay,
So now even with a sale, even with this bankruptcy
of the twenty three and Me company, that doesn't mean
that all of a sudden, your DNA or whatever they
know about you and your public file is going to

(13:33):
be shared with anybody that can like utilize that against you. Right.
Let's say, like what Mark was saying, if twenty three
and meter detected that you are super apt within your
family for heart disease, that could absolutely affect how your
health insurance company views you and how much you would
have to pay for your premium every single month before
you know, like no matter what your age is, because

(13:55):
you just never know when something like that could occur. Also,
customers can opt in or opt out of having their
sample stored. So if you're like, hey, I want this
to be like wiped away as soon as I receive it,
they can do that. Like contractually, you can say that
that can happen if a customer opts in but then

(14:15):
wants to change that and revoke the consent they gave
the company says it securely discards the storage samples within
the legally applicable timeframe. Now I don't know what that
timeframe is, but like you call in and say, look,
I don't want you to have a piece of my
DNA anymore, they will eventually discard that at some point.

(14:36):
They also say this if a user opts into research
but changes their mind after that, any research that's already
been performed is not reverse or revoked. Your stuff is
just kind of in that sample forever. So if you're
okay with it at the time, you just have to
understand that there's a chance that your DNA sample is
going to be used for research and whatever has been
published or already kind of experimented on, they can't do

(14:59):
anything to change that.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
So I guess we'll see.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
You know, the personal information they say maybe access sold
or transferred, but their privacy policies are applying to their
personal information and all of that would then be transferred
to a new entity. But then the new entity could
create their own terms of service after they acquire the company.
So I don't need like this is such a weird

(15:23):
deal in how this would work. But I guess if
you're worried about it, and this is why I think
people are talking about it. We have gotten more, I think,
aware of this stuff, especially after COVID nineteen and especially
after you know, the COVID vaccine and all these people
that are going out of their way to try to
understand or learn about who they are or what their

(15:43):
makeup is. Maybe they have a few regrets that they
did that, because now there are people in their ears saying, no,
you shouldn't trust these companies. I'm not one of those
people generally, but there are some people that just, you know,
this is information that they'd rather people they don't know having.
But essentially they say, you can delete your stuff if
you have it. You can delete your twenty three media account.

(16:03):
You can go to the account settings and customer care page.
You can delete one and ten percent, and after that,
you know, you'll have to confirm that. Once you confirm
that you want to delete your account, you may have
to kind of go through another couple of checkpoints, but
you can have your account absolutely deleted, and now all
of a sudden, you're no longer in this database that's
about to be acquired by somebody else. We'll see what happens.

(16:26):
There and we will let you know because I think
it's kind of fascinating. Not often do you hear about
a company that has a lot of people's personal DNAs
and personal data going bankrupt and then potentially could be
acquired while still having all of this data in their logs.
But if there are any hang ups on this, we
will let you know. Here it's two twenty eight, we're

(16:48):
going to come back. We got plenty more of this
hour for you that will continue to break down, including
from Greenland. We'll talk about tariffs and all sorts of
other stuff. But also I wanted to remind you at
the top of the three o'clock hour, we're going to
talk to Mayor g Stothard, first of hopefully three or
four different interviews that we're going to have during this
week that we can get you ready for April first.

(17:09):
And that's is that a week from today. It is
a week in one day away. It's Tuesday, next week
of the primary for the first step essentially of the
mayoral race here in Omaha, and we will start with
Mayor Gene stother today. Schedule to join us at three
zero five, so you'll want to stay locked in with
that as we dig into these candidates all week long

(17:30):
right here on news Radio eleven ten kfab Oh, Marie,
I'm going to ask you a question. You have to
give me an answer, kind of trivia type games. Okay, okay.
What is the most used term relatively new term in
collegiate athletics that you hear today, il nil bingo? What
is in il? Name?

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Image and likeness so meaning that any collegiate athlete can
utilize their name, their image, or a likeness of name
and image to monetize themselves. Meaning they can do that
in all kinds of forms you can think of, either
paid get paid for autographs, they can star in commercials,

(18:15):
any and all forms of monetization.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
Used to not be able to make any money at all.
You can sell merch like you know, you can have
you know, your jersey gets sold and you get a
piece of that kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (18:26):
All that stuff.

Speaker 1 (18:27):
Right. Yeah, did you notice something in the sweet sixteen
for the men's basketball bracket.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
I saw a headline that every single team is a
what you would call a major conference team.

Speaker 1 (18:39):
A power conference team. Yeah. You have four Big ten teams,
four Big twelve teams, seven SEC teams, and one ACC
team that means no mid majors, no real cinderellas, no
eleven plus seeds that even got past the second round
of this year's turning in. Every single team like the
Drakes and the Colorado States that kind of pulled first

(19:01):
round upsets this year, their coach is gone already. Nico
Medved former Drake coach also but was at Colorado State.
He took the Minnesota job. You had Ben McCallum, a Drake,
pull off first round ups on Missouri. They get beat
in the second round by Texas Tech. He takes the
Iowa job. If you're good McNee state, McNeese will wade

(19:21):
before the tournament even started. We talked about this last week.
They announced that he had taken the job at NC State. Right,
so all of these mid major teams and their coaches
and likely their rosters in the transfer portal are going
to leave. And you know what, it's a recruiting thing
through nil. You know who pays for ANIL? Who pays
for ANIL? Now the nil? Right, There are a few

(19:44):
different ways you can do it. But the one thing
that another term that we're hearing is this thing called
a collective, the NIL collective. All these schools have collectives
where basically, you know, you know what, you know how
the collective works.

Speaker 2 (19:57):
They get a bunch of stuff and they put it
in a collection and then they divvy it up.

Speaker 1 (20:01):
Yeah, and you the fan pays the collective or donates
to the collective and you get like access, or you
get merchandise, or you have the opportunity. So they're asking
fans to fill in the money into the collective for
the NIL to recruit good talent. And if you don't
have the number, and this is Jim Rose's argument. I

(20:21):
heard Jim Rose talk about this. He didn't think that
Iowa would have the NIL poll to get Ben McCollum.
Darren Devreeze may have had a chance to go to
Iowa but instead went to Indiana where the number of
NIL is much larger. So it's one hundred percent true.
The bigger your NIL budget is based on your collective
and the donors that you have to pour into that
and pay players. Because it's not just like I thought

(20:43):
NIL at the beginning was just gonna be Companies like
State Farm wants Kaitlyn Clark to be in a commercial,
they would contract through Caitlin Clark in the University of
Iowa to put her in a commercial and then they
would pay her. Well, a collective pays like the team
or all the athletes, and they try to divvy that
up as equal as they can. Or if you're trying
to get a five star quarterback, let's say Dylan Ryola,

(21:05):
or you're trying to attract you know, Fred Hoiberg transfer
for the basketball team. Sometimes you just need to be
able to say I have two hundred thousand dollars here
for you, and then they come because of the nil
money you've promised them. It's not the same as college
athletics was even a decade ago. Now, some of the
great players were still getting payments under the table or
getting benefits that were under the table and not legal.

(21:29):
But now it's all legal. It's the Wild West now,
and all of the big fish are getting bigger because
they have the resources. You're rarely going to see a
McNeice or a Drake or a Colorado State have the
ability to keep a coach who is being highly recruited
or a great player. One of the Alabama's best players,

(21:49):
Grant Nelson. You know where he's from, North Dakota. I
think he played North Dakota State or North Dakota. I
can't exactly remember. I think one of the North Dakota
schools and transferred after four years there to Alabama. And
you know what, he's a great player, and it's good
for him. He actually him giving them four years was
more than you could at any point ask for for

(22:10):
a lot of these mid major types. Yeah, so I
guess my big thing here is who pays to go
to games. The fan who is paying for concessions, the
fan who's paying the merchandise, the fan who is trying
their best to be loud and supportive and travel around
and watch this team. And now who's also being put

(22:33):
on the hook through NIL and these collectives to donate
more money to allow their team to get good coaches
and or good players. The fan college athletics is officially broken.
I'm not saying you shouldn't support your team, but you
know what, that's why I feel a bit of a
poll for places like the University of Nebraska Omaha. I
feel a bit of a poll for a place like

(22:55):
Drake I feel a bit of a poll for a
lot of these smaller Division one schools that's never going
to be a fair and even playing field for them.
Creating basketball is going to have a bit of an
advantage because they're in the Big East. Nebraska basketball and
football are going to have a big advantage because guess what,
they're in the Big Ten. The Big Fish are just
getting bigger, and it somehow has fallen all the way

(23:15):
back onto the shoulders of the fan to give more
and give more, and give more and give more. And
if Nebraska goes seven and five and goes to the
Pinstripe Bowl or the cheese At Bowl or whatever like,
that's your reward for all that money and energy and
time that you've spent being passionate about your team. Or
you know what, I could root for the Chicago Bears.
You know what I'm buying. Might buy a sweatshirt. I

(23:36):
could buy eighteen sweatshirts. I could outfit my entire car
in Bear stuff, donate it to some charity, and they
could auction it off for Bunny. You know how much
that's going to affect what the Chicago Bears do in
free agency?

Speaker 2 (23:49):
How much?

Speaker 1 (23:49):
Zero zero professional athletic zero. You only support as much
as you want, and if you can't afford to support
them monetarily, you can't go to the games. You don't
buy the merch but you still like the team. Guess what,
they're still going to operate the same way they're not.
They're knocking at your door saying, hey, give us more money.
Please give us more money. Otherwise we're not going to
get this good quarterback. We're not going to get this

(24:10):
guy who can score twenty five points a game. That
fundamentally is changing the way that college athletics works. It's
making the big schools bigger and the smaller schools smaller.

Speaker 2 (24:21):
And it is not fair.

Speaker 1 (24:22):
It's not fair, and I don't think it's fun if
the NCAA tournament always ends up so He's sixteen is
only Power five conference teams. We don't have these Saint
Peters anymore, we know on the Florida Gulf Coasts anymore.
We don't have the Vcus or the loyal the Chicago's
making runs to the final four anymore. What are we
doing here? How is this fun for anybody? Except that
the football? College football has had this problem fifteen to

(24:44):
twenty years. Heck, you could say they've had this problem forever,
where the big schools with the select five or six
best coaches are always going to get the most TV money,
They're always going to get the most resources, They're going
to always have the best facilities, They're always going to
be able to recruit the easiest for the FI even
the four star guys, and that's just perpetually gonna be.
Then now you're giving them a bank roll to essentially

(25:05):
fund that stuff. Now it's just not the same. And
I'm not saying I don't love it still, because I
still like watching the games, but there's a piece of
the charm of what college athletics used to be, especially
this MCAA men's basketball tournament, that I just I felt
more depressed this morning when the Bim McCollum news came
than I have in a while. And I'm happy for
my Hawkeye friends, but I feel for Drake and I

(25:28):
feel for every small school out there that they're just
kind of used as a double a affiliate, essentially to
allow coaches and players to get tape so they can
elevate to the next school because you can freely transfer now,
coaching contracts don't matter. Doesn't matter how much you pay
or how much you offer to pay a guy, and they're

(25:48):
just off to the next job.

Speaker 2 (25:49):
No matter what. Meanwhile, the fans are paying for every
single thing, including to go to the games. And how
much money is it gonna cost playing them?

Speaker 1 (25:57):
How much gonna cost go to Nebraska football games next
year or a year after that?

Speaker 2 (26:01):
Yeah, probably more and more. What if? What if we
give the fans some power in the equation. If the
fans are going to be shareholders of the team, maybe
they should be able to make a decision on how
things work in the administration. How do we do that though, Hey,
maybe the fans should be able to vote a coach out. Okay,
so you're talking about like free and fair elections all

(26:21):
of a sudden. I'm just saying, if the fans are
paying for the players and paying to watch them.

Speaker 1 (26:27):
And honestly bankrolling the coach, if you think about it,
turn turn the down, like's not covering all that money?

Speaker 2 (26:32):
Yeah, turn the team and do a turn college sports
into the stock market, get a dividend, and be able
to vote the coach out.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Now see the Power Conference teams. You want to know,
like how fun that would be? Honestly, how the markets
would change? You kind of see it with European soccer
a little bit, with all the turnover that they end
up getting because the fans have such power over those
local teams. I kind of like it. You're onto something,
You're onto something there.

Speaker 2 (26:56):
If you could get a dividend for the team's success
somehow and then actually have voting power and kicking a
coach out, I guarantee you they would rake in so
much more.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Money, Oh gosh, heck. And how much more fanatic would
you be about the team? How much more support would
you give them because now you have a voice at
the table.

Speaker 2 (27:14):
And I imagine the chance when the team goes sour,
we're gonna fire you Well's.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
And you want to know why soccer in Europe is
so is so passionate. It is because there is that vibe.
Even though there is an owner, like you need to
have the backing of the supporters. And when it goes south,
it goes sour. People have been forced to sell, people
have been forced to be fired, people have resigned, players
get benched in stuff because the fans have lifted their
voice up. You want to know why that sport is
so much more passionate than a lot of American professional sports,

(27:42):
or you know, college sports, which is basically pro sports
now and it's because the fans have a voice. We
don't really have that big of a voice here. We
just have to give money. Give more money, and you'll
have a chance to get this player. Give more money,
and maybe we can get a good coach. Give more money,
we'll win more games. It's just not a sustainable model,
I think currently. But if you give the people a
little bit more power into the decision making, now, all

(28:03):
of a sudden, now I'm intrigued. Now you might get
a couple hundred dollars out of me. I'm interested. You've
peaked my interest. And it's two forty nine. It's quite
an interesting conversation altogether. Reminder, we'll be talking to the
mayor Gen Stouther about the upcoming campaign the election in
the primary coming up here next week. That'll be coming

(28:23):
up at the top of the hour here on news
Radio eleven to ten kfab.

Speaker 3 (28:26):
And raised longer.

Speaker 1 (28:27):
I got this email from Glenn and I think this
is the response to the conversation we just had about
nil that a lot of people are going to have.
And he says, maybe you can answer this question. If
a college student is getting a scholarship, he doesn't have
to pay for a schooling. If he gets nil money,
does he have to pay for a schooling or are
we still I think he was voice to texting this,
but it says basically, does he also still get the scholarship.

(28:47):
It seems like if they're getting nil money, they should
be paying their own way, not on a scholarship. Unfortunately, Glenn,
that is just not how it works. A lot of
these guys are already not doing school the traditional way
the high level athletes for any institution. Heck, when I
was at in AIA school in the small town of Oscarloosa, Iowa,
there were a lot of the high level basketball players

(29:09):
that they were doing everything they could to try to
get him classes that I mean, yeah, sure, they're trying
to help them get a degree. I'll be honest with you.
A lot of those guys don't care about the degree.
They are there to play basketball or play football or
whatever it is. And the coaches would do everything they
could with advisors to get them in classes that they
could pass and that they weren't going to have some

(29:31):
sort of issue, like even just attendance would be a problem.
Now in the virtual class era, you could literally probably
at these bigger schools take only virtual classes, and all
you have to do is just get some work done.
And even then a lot of it was just lecture
and then afterwards you're done, right, like the classes just
over with. You don't have to test out of a

(29:52):
lot of this stuff. It is a system that is
designed to allow them to just play the sport. And
that's just the reality. So you could say scholarship, but
they're really I mean, the scholarship doesn't matter to a
lot of these guys. You can offer somebody who's like
a walk on a scholarship that don't matter to him
because he's going for the classes. He knows he's not
going pro. But still there are those guys that I mean,

(30:16):
if you have the ability to get them with local
companies or autograph signings or something so they can make
a little bit of money on the side, they're gonna
do that. And then at this highest level, they're basically
just getting paid to be there. I mean, you're seeing
guys transfer from good situations straight up because they know
that it's about the almighty coin. And you heard Jim

(30:36):
the Jim Rose Rosie. Did you know he's like Creighton
basketball thing and about the green That's what he's talking about.
He's saying Crighton needs to keep fulfilling, their filling their
collectives so they can keep attracting those guys. I mean,
Greg McDermott is an excellent guy to have as a
head coach to build a culture and want guys like
Brian Kalchbrenner and Steven Ashworth to come back for multiple

(30:59):
years when they could go to maybe a more traditional,
big powerhouse team. That hasn't really happened with Creighton. But
in order to do that, you got to get them
in the door first. The only way you're going to
recruit them and try to keep them in Omah is
you got to be able to offer them innil dollars.
It's just an unfortunate reality. This is professional athletics masquerading
as college athletics because they're representing an institution of higher learning.

(31:21):
That is the only thing that is making a college
sports is that they're representing a college because they are
not operationally they are operating as a professional organization. All
these schools are