Open Phone Line Friday: Winner Take All in the Legislature

Open Phone Line Friday: Winner Take All in the Legislature

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Oh okay, okay, oh look at this wrinkle in time. Okay,
all right, mission or tampering in his own I'm not tampering.
I'm just asking a question. Relax, Gosh, it's ridiculous. We're
gonna have to talk about that because of me. Everything
I want, I I it's too much. It's too much,
and I can I can do something. I can do

(00:21):
something here. I can do something to beat that. So
don't don't hit the except button on that trade yet.
Give me a couple of minutes to think about it.
That's the thing, now, all I just learned about this.
You're giving me no time, Like I I give me
some time. You got three days to lean into the
trade deadline in our fantasy league, and you gotta give
me some time to like formulate my response here. Am
I worry is that this is a tactic. You're trying

(00:41):
to stall me. There's a backdoor move. I don't want
to miss out on what I want because I'm being courteous.

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Yeah, well, I'm just gonna try to give you more
of what you want by also getting a player that
I want over the other guy and try to make
it work for you. Can get his deal and my
deal just maybe in two separate parts kind of thing,
so you get even more than you thought you would
kind of thing. We'll talk about this off the here

(01:07):
if I can bring myself to figuring out the problem. Gosh,
by the way, Pooughkeepsie. Poughkeepsie won the last contest that
I have from noon from the New Hour. Where's that
at in New York? Pooughkeepsie? Yeah, I think that's where
Marist is. Is that where Marist is? The university? Yeah? Yeah?
Check on that is that is? I feel like a college?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Is there?

Speaker 2 (01:30):
All right? There was some good debates this week in
the news, and we'll get a Friday for and just
have all sorts of wacky and funny stuff that we're
going to talk about. You get that is Maris the
right place?

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I just figured out how to spell Pooughkeepsie, which was
the initial problem. I've got that problem out of the way.
Why is it famous? Yeah, it's off of the Hudson River.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Is that right?

Speaker 5 (01:55):
Well?

Speaker 1 (01:56):
Yeah, Maris University in Whosi.

Speaker 2 (02:00):
So I was right, yeah, there we go, all right,
there we go. Yeah, So what do you think about?
What do you think the most important thing that we
talked about this week.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
Was probably streetcar Man. Honestly, if we had to, is
that important?

Speaker 2 (02:20):
Like it was probably the most memorable thing that we
talked about, But it's the most important thing I was thinking.
You know, I had such a great long conversation about
Elon Musky yesterday. I don't know how important really Elon, Like,
I feel like most of us are all all on
the same track.

Speaker 4 (02:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
What is kind of also percolating behind the scenes, And
this is why I kind of brought this up is
winner take All because the Republicans, while the Republicans have
control of the unicameral, well you don't really have control
of the Union, you know what I mean. They feel
like the unicameral is in their favor. You know, you're
you don't you don't belong to a political party, but

(02:59):
you know what I'm saying, Like people still vote kind
of one way or the other way in the in
the unicameral, right right, And there's a Republican governor right right,
And the Senators are both Republicans from Nebraska, right right.
And the three congressional members in the House of Representatives
are all Republicans right right. So if there was ever

(03:20):
a time for the Republicans to make a power play
in Nebraska. Now seems like a pretty decent time, right, right,
So if that's the case, then why couldn't they figure
out a way to make it Winter take All? And
how do you feel about Winter take All? Do you
think we go back to Winter take All? Or do
we separate it into the districts again and like have
that blue dot in Omaha? Or is this one of

(03:43):
those things where if the Democrats were doing the same thing,
we would say this is completely unconstitutional according to what
Nebraska historically has done. Right, Right, It's been a long
time since this has been happening, right. This isn't just
like yesterday, Almaha is kind of voting blue here. This
is kind of one of those things where all of
the districts have had the freedom to vote themselves, right, right.

(04:06):
So I'm thinking to myself, if this is really that
big of a deal one electoral vote as of right now,
I mean, who knows, you know, forty years from now,
maybe the other districts become in play or something, or
maybe Omaha becomes ridiculously read. I don't know. Right, there's
like there's like a fifteen different ways this thing could
split up or splinter but if it was the Democrats

(04:30):
who were doing this idea of just like, hey, we
should make it winner take all no matter what, knowing
that it would benefit them incent it the other way around,
would we be down for this is the only reason
this keeps popping up is because the Republicans are like,
why can't we get this done? We need to have
winter take all in Nebraska for the electoral vote, and

(04:51):
we've talked about this on multiple occasions. I actually like
the way that we do it in Nebraska because it
makes it really puts an onus on owing the races,
not just the presidential race, but every district has to
kind of participate to win. You can't just rely on
a few areas or the large majority of rule space

(05:11):
in Nebraska. That Omaha electoral vote could end up being
really important. Like we were talking about, there was a
pathway where that could have been the tie breaking vote
essentially and could give the Democrats the presidency if the
right states kind of went each direction. We talked about that, right,
So it's important on a national level, even if it's

(05:32):
just one electoral vote at a time, but it makes
each place feel more important. You don't just give up
on Nebraska because there's too many rule people. You could
really you know, if you stick to it, you can
look at these different districts and understand the difference between
them and maybe campaign and you never know what a
presidential race maybe comes down to. And I don't know.

(05:55):
I feel like if Democrats are trying to do this
in this situation, I feel like a lot of people
have a big with that. But again, it wouldn't ben
if it's Republicans now, So why is that all of
a sudden. Okay, I'm a proponent of every state should
do it the way that Nebraska does it. Every district
should have the freedom to make their own decisions. I
guess it's not irrelevant because it's being talked about in

(06:17):
the unicamer right now. But it may not be like
super pertinent until twenty twenty eight. It doesn't mean we
shouldn't be talking about it right now. So let's go
ahead and open the punks. If you want to talk
about this one way or the other. How do you
feel about Winter take all? Do you think that the
Republicans are in the right for doing this or do
you think that the Democrats. If the Democrats did it,

(06:38):
you'd be okay with them if they decide to do this.
You know, winner take all, it's good for the goose,
is good for the gander. What do you think about this?
Because it does it could very well end up making
a difference in a presidential election down the line if
we keep doing it this way, And do you think
that other states should follow? Nebraska and Mains lead is
the only two states that actually do it this way

(06:59):
and have every district matter. By having every district kind
of independently vote for one electoral College vote. It's pretty interesting.
Call us at four roh two five to five, eight
to eleven ten. That number is four h two, five
to five eight eleven ten. We're going to start there
here on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 6 (07:14):
Emory's songer I'm on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 2 (07:21):
Looks win or take Call me well, it's the way
that the unicameral kind of defines the debate in the legislature,
the state legislature as to how the state of Nebraska
accounts it's electoral votes. In Nebraska, along with Maine, the
only two states in the Union that actually count them
by district and not just win or take all. I'm
asking you, what do you think about this four h two, five, five,

(07:42):
eight eleven ten is I know it may not be
pertinent information for an actual election until at least twenty
twenty eight, but it's being debated at right now in
the unicameral and many people have different thoughts on this.
So let's start with Kevin on the phone line. Kevin,
welcome to our show today. What do you think?

Speaker 3 (07:57):
Hey, Thanksjamrie. I appreciate you taking my call first on
your show two days in a row.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Yeah, you're on time, man, you do not laid an
inch and I love that about you.

Speaker 3 (08:07):
Well, I enjoy talking to you. It's also going to
my attention that I get a little bit of super
and on air, So I'm going to try to moderate
myself little and actually be a little bit more clear
and logical in my statements. Okay, if we look at
the way the electoral college was constructed for this country,
it prevents a population center or a population density such

(08:29):
as Omaha, from having a voice in the national election.
It dis verses that throughout the rural areas because if
you ever look at the demographic map of the way
the electoral college splits after an election in this country,
New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles, and the big cities
are always dark dark blue, and the rural counties are
always red. So this winner not taking all in Nebraska

(08:53):
gives the Democrats in Omaha an unfair leg up in
our national election, and that.

Speaker 7 (09:00):
Needs to be removed.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
The Democrats have had enough advantages over the last fifty
years since they murdered JFK that they don't need anymore.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Okay, all right, easy, easy, slowdown, Kevin. Okay, so I
just one follow up. The phone lines are full, so
I'm going to try to move kind of quick here,
but I do want to follow up with you. So
if like, okay, let's say we leave it in Nebraska
with the idea that maybe we could change things up
in other states. Let's use California as an example. They
have like fifty five electoral districts essentially, but they actually

(09:32):
end up having like twenty or so of those end
up read every single election. So if we take the
Nebraska model and transpose it to a place like California,
all of a sudden, the Republicans are getting a big
advantage because now it's not winner take off for all
of the Democrats. If other states try to jump on
board there, would you be okay? Leaving it the way
that it is.

Speaker 3 (09:52):
The difference there as in the population density. Those districts
are drawn up based upon how many people live in
now correct. That's why the electoral college works is because
it doesn't allow a district like Douglas County to control
an election. It doesn't allow what is the major county
in New York City, It does not allow that county

(10:12):
to determine who will be our president every four years.
That's what the electoral college does. Yeah, but Kevin, right, Kevin, Kevin,
everybody has a.

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Right, And Kevin, I think you're kind of arguing why
the electoral college matters versus the popular vote. What I'm
saying is if we just allow the districts one electoral
vote a piece, and then they the five hundred and
thirty eight electoral votes are based on yes, one hundred
of them I guess would be the Senators, and that's
based on the majority of the state in and of

(10:45):
itself how Nebraska operates. But then it'd be the four
hundred and thirty eight other districts that independently cast one
vote each. It's not like the popular vote wins the election.
What I'm saying is every single district has a voice.
So like the blue districts in Texas, Texas isn't all
blue or isn't already anymore. There's a few blue in

(11:06):
California instead of all blue, now there's a few red.
You know, every district kind of feels like it can
be its own battleground. That's that's That's how I'm interpreting this.
I guess.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Okay, well I could, I could. I can seek that point.
You make a very valid argument there, and I'll give
you that one.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
Okay, all right, Well, Kevin, I still.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Think the Waynombraska does it gives an unfair electoral advantage
to the Democrats in the Omaha area because that is
really the only blue park in Nebraska. Yeah, and I'll
be honest with you, I'm not from Nebraska. I live
overhere in Iowa. Sure, I'm embarrassed for you guys that
you have that blue dot in the middle of your city.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Hey, hey, hey, Kevin, Kevin, Kevin, let's let's not act
like the Moine isn't also blue. They just don't have
an electoral vote that they get to, you know, use.

Speaker 3 (11:51):
When you're on the radio in Iowa because I am
more interest in the Braska politics. That's where my folks.

Speaker 2 (11:56):
Yeah, it's all good man. Hey, I appreciate the call
as always, keV, thanks for calling it.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
I have a great day.

Speaker 2 (12:03):
Yeah, thanks man. Let's go to Rob. Rob, appreciate you
for being on the show with us today. What do
you think about this?

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Rob?

Speaker 2 (12:11):
Are you there? Rob? All right, let's put him back
on hold. And you know, sometimes guys are listening to
the wrong thing. Let's go to Mike. Mike's on the
phone line. Hello, Mike, what do you think?

Speaker 8 (12:24):
Hey?

Speaker 9 (12:24):
I think Rob was washing dishes on you. My opinion is,
I think now would be a terrible time to reorganize
the way we do this. I think it's stacking the
deck against the Democrats. Really, the only voice they have
is the blue dot and omahawk. Even though you know

(12:44):
I'm a I'm a Republican. But whatever I think, now
is a bad time to do that. I think it
just looks too intentional. But my overall point is if
people would actually start voting in their best interest of
you know what, what's actually good for my family, what's
good for my local businesses, what's good for our kids?
Then everything would sort itself out. I think if people

(13:05):
can just get out of that mindset that my team
has to win. So if Trump's doge team is able
to truly save you know, say balance the budget and
save US one and a half trillion dollars, yeah, then
I think everybody it'll all fall in line after that.

Speaker 2 (13:21):
Yeah, And I don't disagree with that, Mike, But it's
a matter of just also you have to not just
let you need to win the narrative battle, which is
one thing through the media and everything like that to
let people know exactly what is happening, but also it
has to just be accomplished by the administration. So like,
if you know, we talk about conservative politics, if the
administration does what it says it wants to do and

(13:42):
what people voted for, there's going to be a compelling
argument that hey, this is actually working and you can
actually turn some of these people into understanding that. Unfortunately,
because the narrative battle that the media and the bubble
that some people just kind of surround themselves with make
everything sound negative even if it's positive or in their
best interest, it becomes still an uphill battle to do. So,

(14:06):
so it's a fascinating conversation because I don't disagree with
what you're saying, but I think people do kind of
get themselves in their own little corner with other people
that kind of prevent them from seeing what actually could
be most beneficial for them and their family because of
social pressures or what they're just kind of choosing to
hear on a daily basis.

Speaker 9 (14:26):
Yeah, administration's able to quit funding the propaganda machine, which
obviously they've uncovered much of it in the last two weeks. Yeah,
and maybe those social and political pressures won't be as
a parent as they are now.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
That definitely would be a side effective that, that's for sure. Mike.
I appreciate you being on the show today. Thanks for
calling in.

Speaker 3 (14:45):
Matt, thank you.

Speaker 2 (14:46):
Let's go to Tim on a phone line of four
h two, five five, eight to eleven ten. Tim, Welcome
to the show. What do you think about this Winner
Take All stuff?

Speaker 3 (14:52):
Hi?

Speaker 6 (14:54):
I think that it's all coming back to fruition. Say
that it looks a little political right now, but the
reason that it is the way it is is because
it was political. In nineteen ninety one, we had Ben
Nelson as the governor jj X and as their Senator
Bob Kerrey as our senator, and the legislature was pretty

(15:17):
much a Democratic legislature, and they ran this through as
a district splitting the district. So it hasn't been around
since Nebraska's been a state. It's only been around since
nineteen ninety one.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Yeah, so yeah, sure, good ah Well, I was just
going to say, you know, like, what's interesting about it is,
I suppose why I think that that's like, I'm okay
with that. I suppose is tim the idea that the
it's still independent for the district. Like, yes, generally, the

(15:51):
way the United States is working now, most metropolitan cities
typically are voting pretty heavily blue around the country, and
this does kind of give the Democrats at least a
win if Omaha stays blue. But the fact that we
have a Republican mayor of this of Omaha, the fact
that we have Don Bacon who's a Republican in this

(16:11):
district that continuously wins those elections, it's not impossible to
think that, you know, a Republican could win. It just
allows there to be I guess, more campaigning because let's
be honest, if it was winner take all. As far
as Nebraska has turned red just like Iowa has right now,
it kind of makes it feel like Nebraska would be

(16:31):
completely out of play entirely because it would never flip
to blue. There's just not enough people in the Omaha
area to offset that. So I guess my response to
you is, why wouldn't we just allow kind of that
freedom of the districts to kind of make up their
own mind and let each district kind of think freely
of itself instead of you know, Western Nebraska and Omah
all kind of falling into the same pot, right, And if.

Speaker 6 (16:54):
You follow that line of thinking, what would make that
different than a popular vote rather than the electoral college vote.

Speaker 2 (17:02):
Well, the popular vote, right is, every single person counts
for one vote, and that does give a massive advantage
to the larger metropolitan areas, whereas Omaha's carry almost five
hundred thousand people. Let's say you know, two hundred and
fifty thousand decide to vote, then you know two hundred
and fifty thousand versus say, you know or is going
to have you know, two hundred That's not fair, right,

(17:25):
because those votes are the lifestyle in one place versus another,
whereas the districts themselves represent yes, a populace, but each
district is kind of a space, and a metropolitan area
is a much smaller space or geographical area, whereas when
you see like Adrian Smith's district is much larger geographical

(17:48):
geographically to match the people number, even though those people
live a very different life, and that at least like
those people's votes. However many people are in that district
versus how many people in Don Bacon's district, those people
all they'll count the exact same, even if they are
in a bigger swath of land, and that allows those
districts to kind of balance themselves if they are that different,

(18:09):
like they are in Nebraska. Did I articulate that? Okay,
I kind of feel like I didn't, But yeah, I.

Speaker 10 (18:16):
Think you did.

Speaker 6 (18:16):
I just I feel that it would be bringing it
down too much into what makes that gentleman an org
his vote less important than the guy in Omaha. It's
because that he is going with the state with a majority, right,
and that makes his voice better and bigger.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
And that is correct. But if we and I'll use
the California example, if we transpose this idea to California,
and there are all of a sudden fifty five separate
districts across California, and they're all up for grabs. They're
not just automatically blue like it would be in this
winter take all scenario. Now, all of a sudden, there's
going to be like ten, fifteen, maybe twenty red voting
districts in the state of California, and now the Republicans

(19:01):
are picking up seats or picking up electoral votes because
each district has the ability to vote independently of the
state itself. Does that make sense? Yeah, yes, Yeah, it's
an interesting conversation. That's why I brought it up. Tim.
I appreciate your thoughts on that, definitely, thank you. Yeah,
I have a good weekend, Rob, Jeff, Dan Stu, everybody
else calling in. We're going to get to you next
stay with us on News Radio eleven to ten kfab

(19:22):
and Raise Songer. I'm of the idea that, hey, I
think that the district should have the ability to freely
vote themselves. And the only reason that we're okay with
this generally is that the Republicans have the power now
and they want to try to get that blue dot
out of here because they can't win. Well, they can
win because they have a Republican representative, but they seemingly

(19:43):
feel like they can't win regularly. The Omaha Blue Dot
situation with District two. We're just debating this because it's
coming up in the unicameral and our elected officials at
the state level are debating this hotly, trying to get
this thing which to winner take all as forty eight
other states are. Let's start with Rob. Rob. Are you

(20:04):
with us here today? We appreciate the call, yes, sir,
all right back, Hey, thanks man. What are you thinking
about today?

Speaker 5 (20:11):
Well?

Speaker 11 (20:12):
Number one, I agree with what you were saying that
it's important for Nebraska's relevance to continue the independent.

Speaker 5 (20:19):
Method that we have now.

Speaker 11 (20:21):
And if that was an in fact applied.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
To other states, it might be very revealing that in
fact there's much more support in the outside of the
metropolitan areas for the other candidate. For example, the swing
states of the spoken of swing states turned just basically
and if you had driven through those states, you see

(20:44):
a tremendous amount of support in the rural areas. In California,
there was enough support in the heavy metropolitan areas for
the overall numbers and the greater number of districts to
overwhelm the Central Valley, but there's a huge number of
support in even California or New York, and so those

(21:06):
larger states that have forty.

Speaker 8 (21:09):
Or fifty the electoral votes is extremely important. Thirdly, I
would say that even beyond those the electoral college and
why it's important or the electoral.

Speaker 5 (21:23):
Coasts is related to the.

Speaker 11 (21:26):
State's importance for its natural resources. It's productivity, it's beautiful,
beautiful places that exist in these wide open spaces as
opposed to some of the tiny places.

Speaker 2 (21:38):
Yeah, it's definitely fascinating because when you talk about it
from a district to district standpoint, it does just open
up a lot of different possibilities of how the map
would actually end up looking. For instance, Texas very red
if you count every single one of the votes there,
but it's twenty five Republicans and thirteen Democrats actually in

(21:58):
those representing so it goes to show that there could
be quite a few blue votes. California, there's forty three Democrats,
nine Republicans, So all of a sudden, there be nine
Republican districts that potentially could turn red out of California
if we applied the same principles to them. I think
it's worth talking about in that way. Rob, I appreciate
you calling in.

Speaker 8 (22:18):
Thank you.

Speaker 2 (22:19):
Let's go to Jeff on the line. Jeff, how you
doing today.

Speaker 7 (22:24):
I'm flying Emery. Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Yes, sir?

Speaker 7 (22:27):
Okay, great. I'm going to give a political science perspective
if I may. Since since Nebraska has become a state,
there have been forty presidential elections, five times a Democrat
won Nebraska. The belief that the blue dot has it's

(22:52):
called in District one or District two in the Omaha
area can mathematically have any impact on the outcome of
a presidential election is, as one of my political science
professors used to say, mathematically unseasable. It will never happen.

(23:16):
So this is all politics, this whole debate, the proposed legislation,
the bill, it's all politics. Nothing will change as it
relates to this state being a air quotes up red state.
That's not going to change. The blue dot is practically

(23:36):
insignificant with regard to an election going one way or
the other. Firstly, Secondly, if I may real quick, we
live in a one person, one vote world. A person
in rural Nebraska's vote and individual is not going to
account for more or less than a person who lives

(23:58):
in the Omaha metropolitan area. So in short, I think
that this entire proposed bill and blue dot and and
all that practically is a waste of time.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
Yeah, it's an interesting perspective there, Jeff. I appreciate you
for giving us that information today. Thanks for calling in. Yeah,
I suppose I don't disagree, right, I mean, like, how
often does the you know, like we said there, it's
not impossible that that blue dot could end up deciding
the election, because it is possible. We outlined how with

(24:37):
the seven swing states that we had this past election,
there was a way that that Omaha dot could be
the deciding factor if it was up for grabs. Essentially,
my biggest you know, retort to most of what we
just heard there, and not to disagree with it. I
just think that it makes sense to keep it the
way that we do it for the freedom of our

(25:00):
are each district to kind of have its own voice.
But at the same time, if other states aren't adopting it,
or aren't interested in adopting it, even if it makes
more sense or seems to be more fair, then you know,
maybe it doesn't make sense for us to be the
only one except for Maine to have this kind of rule.
Real quick, let's get to Stew before we have to
step aside. Stew, what do you think about this conversation?

Speaker 4 (25:20):
Thank you for taking my call, sir. My concept is
every election in this state is let or take all,
except for the presidential election. So if you apply that
to nationwide, there are fifty districts in the United States,
So I look at the electoral college as a regional

(25:45):
type thing.

Speaker 7 (25:46):
Basically.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
Yeah, so.

Speaker 4 (25:49):
I think the blue dogs should go away. There should
be winner take off.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
Yeah. When you put it that way, obviously, it does
make it seem very odd that we kind of do
it the way that we do it here in this
state because other states essentially are their own district. The
entire state is a district, and it's basically fifty states
having their own election and then sending their elector electoral
votes to the race to count the score. And it

(26:17):
is quite fascinating when you just kind of outline it
that way, Stu, and I appreciate the call today. It
makes it interesting to have the conversation and what each
side thinks is common sense. I do just challenge people
who are Republicans, though in this very republican state, if somehow,
some way it was the Democrats who were trying to
do this exact same thing. They had most control over

(26:40):
the state, but there was one red dot, and that
red dot was what we were trying to you know,
the red dot was essentially what Democrats were trying to
snuff out and create a winner take all, so they
didn't have to worry about ever winning the red dot.
They just like, Hey, if we win the rest of
the state like we always do, that red dot's just
going to vote with us. Anyway, would we be okay
with the Democrat's doing that, or would be barking that

(27:01):
that is completely unfair and unconstitutional or breaks Nebraska law
and they're just trying to make a power play on
the conservatives in the state. Just put yourself in the
shoes of what that would be like if you're on
the other side of the fence. Just asking you that
I'll take more thoughts on this coming up. Four oh
two five to five eight eleven ten. Is that number?
Four h two five five eight eleven ten on news

(27:21):
radio eleven ten, kfab.

Speaker 7 (27:24):
Oh Marie on news radio eleven ten Kfab and.

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Welcome to the show today. What's going on?

Speaker 9 (27:33):
Yeah, my only comment is if the blue dot is
so in significant, then why do Democrats care about keeping
it so much?

Speaker 2 (27:43):
Yeah, I mean it would be significant because it allows
them to have a voice from Omaha if they win
the election in sixteen. Obviously that dot was read, but
it became blue in twenty and was blue again in
twenty four. It's just competitive, right. It just gives them
a chance to at least get one electoral vote, versus
knowing that the entire state beyond the ne Bras or

(28:06):
the Omaha area generally is going to vote read. At
least they have a chance to vote, So it's I
don't think it is insignificant. I think as far as
you know, having one electoral vote to speak for your
voice in our state, I think that means a lot
to people.

Speaker 9 (28:20):
Yeah, I'm just more piggybacking off of a previous caller
who mentioned that it doesn't play a role and yeah,
the outcome of a federal presidential election.

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Yeah, it makes sense, Jason, and in that context it
is a good Rebuttal, I think I appreciate you calling in.
Thank you for listening. Let's go to Bruce Bruce on
a phone line four h two five five, eight eleven ten.
Welcome Bruce. What do you think?

Speaker 12 (28:44):
Yeah, I just want to voice my full support to
the effort of the legislature to bring it to a
statewide vote up or down. Do we do winner take
all or continue with an electoral vote for each congressional district.
I'm in favor of a statewide winner take all. And

(29:08):
for those who say there's no chance it would ever
make a difference, we know in the past election, if
Harris had carried Michigan, Pennsylvania in Wisconsin, she would have
won two seventy two sixty eight because of the blue
dot correct, it does potentially decide the election.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
I agree, I do not find it to be insignificant,
although I do generally think Bruce and I appreciate the
call that you know, when you have this kind of argument,
it becomes a matter of political party. And again I
have to remind people that the reason that Republicans trying
to push this back into winter take all situation while
they have the power is because they don't want to

(29:53):
have to worry about losing that one electoral College vote
and really even have things to campaign in Alma, you
can basically ignore all If you do this, Nebraska is
not going to get a lot of campaigning done in
a presidential election ever. Again, if you want to be
quite frank about it, because I just don't see a
situation where a bunch of rule Nebraska's who really dominate
the population of this state somehow decide to change their

(30:16):
mind into more democratic thinking into for another gosh, twenty
thirty years, potentially. Jim joining us on the phone line. Jim,
we got about a minute and a half. What's on
your mind?

Speaker 10 (30:25):
I didn't catch how much time we got, Emory, but
I do find interesting on all your calls I listened
to on this electoral College. Every time I heard anybody
speak Republican Democrat, Republican Democrat. Okay, the deal is is
our founding fathers. At the Constitutional Convention, they had about
five choices on how they were going to elect a president.
I can't remember one by one, but that committee even

(30:49):
had the Senators voting for the president of the United States.
They decided to go with through electoral college. The voice.
Since we got a very short time, I guess I'll
talk to you later. But I'm just trying to say
is you even said it yourself. California. By the way,
California's got fifty three fifty three electoral votes for the
House members, fifty three congressional districts and two senators like

(31:14):
all the other states. So I could say more at
the end of the at the end of the hour,
maybe if you let me call you back at the
beginning of the hour, I can tell you what I'm
trying to get at all.

Speaker 2 (31:25):
Right, Well, well, Jim, I appreciate your thoughts on that,
and if we can keep it brief, I would have
no problem doing that. But it is an interesting conversation,
to say the least. And if you want to tack
onto the conversation and we take more calls, we can
keep this thing aging. So call us at four h
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