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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining us. Is somebody though, that's in the government that
can kind of answer some of the questions that we
may have on this and it is Representative Don Bacon.
Representative Bacon, thanks so much for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, thank you. It's great to be home. I've been
two full days at Omaha.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh nice, great, awesome. Okay, So with that being said,
it's been It's always tumultuous when you're talking about, you know, Congress,
but it's been extra tumultuous for the opposition party over
the last twenty four hours. As Chuck Schumer of all
people says, hey, maybe we should just vote this thing in.
So can you tell me about what the conversations have
(00:35):
been like as you guys tried to get a spending
bill figured out before a government shut.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Down, well like two or three weeks ago, the President
and the Speakers they're going to do a clean continuing resolution,
which means we spend money at the same level so
as we did the previous year. And I came out
officially that I opposed it because it amounts to about
a three percent cut to military spending. Our troops would
get a pay raise and you couldn't get ken do
(00:59):
any new contracts to the military, and here we're trying
to prepare for Russia, China, Iran to have a better military,
and we're going backwards. I made that public comment and
a White House called me, was out a Sunday and so, hey,
we heard you. We agree, And so they went in
and made, you know, significant changes to the c R
for military. We plused it up. New contracts, twenty two
new navy ships, a new submarine, and a good pay
(01:22):
raise for our junior listed. And so I felt like,
you know, they responded to me, and I needed to
support that. What I'm seeing is the Democrats are so
angry right now that they wanted to shut the government
down as a sign of resistance. Says that what we saw
on the House side. You know, you thought in the
state of the Union, where you could have a widow
or a kid with cancer, they won't stand up for him.
(01:43):
But the angers is bubbling out. And that's what's what
happened when I went to the Senate. And initially they
were responding to the AOC faction of their their party
and they were going to shut down the government. But Schumer,
I'll give him credit. He I think he showed some
comment censors says, hey, we show this down. Everybody knows
it's going to be a Democrat shutdown. It's gonna be
the Schumer shut down because ninety nine percent of the
(02:05):
Republicans voted to keep it open, and ninety nine percent
of the House when we voted, voted to shut the
government down. And if they shot, the Democrats shut it
down in the sun everything to know who's who's the
fault here. I think he showed a little bit coilent
suns yesterday when he changed his mind.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
We're talking about this because you know, it really matters.
Do you think that pressure, because it's been very public
pressure in the last eighteen hours or so on national TV,
all the social media accounts for a lot of you know,
high profile Democrats saying that no, this is I can't
believe that he would even insinuate doing such a thing,
(02:40):
and like you mentioned, you know, just not wanting to
really play ball with what the Republicans want to do.
Do you think that that growing pressure from people in
his own party is going to change people's mind or
do you think he might just end up being on
an island on this Well.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
He's already got Thutderment, Thutterman. He's a Democratic puzzle. So
right now you've got two of them. Now say they're
gonna vote to uh and really they're gonna play do
two things. They're gonna vote to stop the filibuster, and
then they still may vote against the spending bill. But
you take sixty votes to break a filibuster, and then
once they break it, then it only takes fifty one
(03:17):
of votes. And the Republicans probably do that on their own,
so they may not they may vote to break the
filibuster but then still vote against the bill itself. We'll see.
I think once the Schumer is the leader of their
of the Senate Democrats, and if he says we don't
want this to be the Schumer shutdown, I think there
will be enough Democrats that will go with them because
(03:38):
a vote no, and if it shuts down, everyth's gonna say.
The Republicans ninety voted to keep government going, and ninety
nine percent of the Democrats, at least on the House side,
voted to shut it down, and they're not gonna get
away from that. It's it's a middle America doesn't like
shutdowns that by ninth year they do not like them,
and it'll and whoever does them their fault. Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We're speaking with Representative Don Bacon representing Dale mahi Aria
in the second Congressional District of Nebraska. So this bill specifically,
like you mentioned, there was you know, some adjustments that
were being made. But I think and I was trying
to explain this, a lot of these bills, there's always
kind of just other things that maybe we're not talking
(04:21):
too much about that are involved here. How big is
this bill and how long does it take to kind
of put something like this together for a full vote.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It took months of negotiating and we ended up doing
a lot less than we wanted. We wanted to do
a smarter appropriations bill that was not a cr and
make but frankly, the just to be blunt about it,
the son of democrats. We need we need seven votes.
Unless you're doing a reconciliation building, you can just do
(04:51):
it on you don't need a filibuster. We needed seven
Democrat votes for appropriations bill. And they're so mad right
now about what's going on with those in particular in
their minds that they could we could never get agreement.
So do we pass? Well, we're just gonna do a
CR and then I had to point out, ay, CR
is not good for fturing China, Russia and Iran, and
(05:11):
I think they had enough people agreeing with me, so
they've made some adjustments. And beyond it, they also added
border patrol, the added firefighters, so there's more changes than
just the military. But we've been negotiating this since January
and finally we just gave up. They we couldn't get
seven Democrats to agree to any appropriations bill, so that's
(05:31):
when we tried to go the CR route with the
hope that they wouldn't shut the government down. All right.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Nanty Pelosi kind of mentioned, and I think there are
plenty of people that agree with her that the idea
that that you could have, you know, maybe a little
more of a stopgap bill just like three or four
weeks where it can cover us so we'd not have
a shutdown, but then we would have to come up
with another more long term bill coming up. You know
(05:58):
at the end of that, Considering what you just said,
do you think that would even really make any difference,
because you just going back to the negotiating table with
people that don't seem to be willing to negotiate or compromise.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We've been negotiating this for three months, couldn't get to
first base with the son of Democrats in particular, and
so first another month. So we should have had this
done in September thirtieth of last year, and then we
kicked the can to December, which is wrong. And then
we had an option. We could have tried to get
a bipartisan bill because the Democrats are running the sentence
(06:29):
still have Joe Biden, but nobody had appetite for doings
on appropriations de villains December, so then they put it
to March March fourteenth, which President Trump wasn't happy about
because now he's got to worry about this while I
tryed to do reconcilation bill. But I would just say
we've been trying to negotiate something for months and for
them to say, hey, another month, you know, at some
point we're already halfway into the fiscal year, and so I, frankly,
(06:54):
I think we're heartbroke. We're dysfunctional, and doing a cr
like this for a year, even though it's modified, it
is a sign of a hyperpartisan Congress and environment. Okay,
tell you, the only thing that's more dysfunction is to
shut down. To shut down, it's even worse in my view.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Don Bacon a representative from the second Congressional District in
Nebraska joining us. So, with that all being said, how
do you kind of rate the you know, first eight
weeks here of this administration. I know that a lot
of this time has been trying to get the cabinet
in place and come up with what the agenda looks like.
I know Doze has kind of stolen a lot of
(07:33):
the headlines from people outside of DC looking inward. What
kind of has been you know, your grade from where
you sit in Washington as to what you're seeing from
this administration versus maybe what Trump did the first time
and maybe the last four years as well. With Joe Biden, well.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
He's definitely different than the first four years, a lot
more aggressive, I would say, coming out right out of
the choot. Obviously totally different than Joe Biden's four years.
I get some mixed grades. I'm the bust. I don't
believe in this. You've got to be one hundred percent
yes with somebody, or or a zero percent. I'm more
I'd like to I call more boel strikes. I see
(08:11):
a lot of great stuff. I just think our border
is the best that's ever been in twenty five years.
This is the best border environment in twenty five years.
I think this president deserves a lot of credit for that.
It was getting better under Joe Biden at the end.
Because they realized they were going to get beat in
all the elections, they didn't make changes, but they responded
too late. Frankly, I think the president's decisions on energy,
(08:33):
it's going to be critical that we're going to be
all of the above. Energy we're going to be those
dominant country in the world, and energy production and energy exports.
We can wean Europe totally off of Russian gas, for example.
And so I know I'm very complimentary that I'm a
complimentary of getting rid of the Luddy's regulations that were
strangling business. Now in Ukraine. I praise the desire to
(08:56):
have peace. We want peace. I just critical that they
don't have a lot of moral clarity they treat them.
They basically called Zelanski a dictator and the freezing for
the war, and it's specific the one ad out it's
Putin's a dictator and he's the invaders. I just like
I almost like to ensure that we have moral clarity
on what's going on on there. You know, the tariffs.
(09:17):
I got mixed feelers there too. I think reciprocal terriffs
makes sense. If one side's putting twenty percent tariffs on us,
then we should do because I believe a free trade,
but our producers and our farmers and branchers, they deserve
a level playing field. That said, I know China has
a trade agreement with this and there're one hundred percent
in compliance. So I'm not sure why the focus on
(09:39):
Canada for if I surely we'd be focusing on China
that puts up barriers in Mexico. You have blocked our
corn for two years even though we had an agreement
with them, and so I think the reciprocal trade is good,
but I would be I'd be make sure I focus
on those who are blocking our exports to create a
freer trade environment. Oh, I think it's very important that
(09:59):
we have a good accounting and a good auditing of
allor spending fire applot. We've learned things that the US,
the idea has been hiding and trying to cover or
you know, to conceal for years. I mean doing transgender
programs in Guatemala, Serbia doing the atheism program and nepaal
None of that stuff makes sense, but I've got to
remember they do some good things too. They save about
(10:21):
a million lives a year in Africa from AIDS. They're
very good with Ebola. I just want I want us
to be a little more precise on what we decide
to take out or who we fire, and when you
fire people and then you got to bring them back
in because you realize it's a mistake that creates But
we're talking about real people here and they just I
just think we could do that a little a little
more precisely and with a little more thought, and then
(10:44):
you'd have less turmoil when you realize. But for example,
when you fire FAA guys and then you realize, hey,
we need we need these guys to keep our skies
safe for flying, and you got to bring it back in.
It would have been better not to do that to
begin with. So this is some of my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, last thing for you at Representative Bacon. You're a
military man, and I know that you've been very outspoken
on Ukraine and you kind of touched on it there
for a second but knowing that there has been seemingly
quite a bit of progress made with the Ukrainians this
week with Marco Rubio, Mike Waltz going over in speaking
with him in Saudi Arabia and now the ball kind
of in Russia's court. Uh, where are we? On a
(11:21):
scale of maybe one to ten, you know, one being
we are it's ground, you know, like they literally at
the ground right now. We don't feel like we have
confidence that this will end? Where or ten? Where you
know you feel like the end is emminent? Where are we?
Based on what you're seeing and hearing?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I give it about a five. You know, Ukraine is
always willing to have a just piece. But who wants
who wants to give avoid territory because of other country
in nature? Right? I mean, they don't want to. They
don't want to reward Putin's behavior. He's bombed or cities,
he killed their POW's. I just go on and on.
But they're a willingness. They want to end the war,
they want to be part of the US. They want
to get their economy back going. I'm were on Putin
(12:00):
because he said he's very clear, I want adjust peace,
but I want Ukraine to have no military and they
can't have any allies with the West, and just basically
he wants to still dominate them and basically leave them
vulnerable to future attacks there. And I think that's unacceptable.
Would I would submit if they have to give up
any territory Ukraine to Russia, then they should be allowed
(12:23):
to be aligned with whoever they want to be aligned with,
whether it's NATO or EU or whoever. They deserve security
guarantees that will give them a sense of safety. Russia
cannot be trusted with them, and frankly, you can't trust
them anywhere. If you're anybody's a neighbor with Russia. They're scared.
And I know it firsthand. I've been in many of
these countries and they have hundreds of years of history
(12:45):
of Russia invading them and trying to subdue them and
dominate them. And that's just the fact of life. The
soy of the Baltic countries. You know, they're they're the
most American. You talk to the leaders, they'll say they're
more America and than we are, or more pro American
than we are. But earlier they live in fear of
what Russia could do to them.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, and this is
why we like to talk to people who know what
they're talking about, like Representative Don Bacon. We appreciate the
insight on the spending bill and all the other things
that are happening in Washington. I'm sure we'll talk to
you again very soon.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, how about that. Getting a chance to speak with
Representative Bacon always an honor.
Joining us. Is somebody though, that's in the government that
can kind of answer some of the questions that we
may have on this and it is Representative Don Bacon.
Representative Bacon, thanks so much for being on the show.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
Hey, thank you. It's great to be home. I've been
two full days at Omaha.
Speaker 1 (00:14):
Oh nice, great, awesome. Okay, So with that being said,
it's been It's always tumultuous when you're talking about, you know, Congress,
but it's been extra tumultuous for the opposition party over
the last twenty four hours. As Chuck Schumer of all
people says, hey, maybe we should just vote this thing in.
So can you tell me about what the conversations have
(00:35):
been like as you guys tried to get a spending
bill figured out before a government shut.
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Down, well like two or three weeks ago, the President
and the Speakers they're going to do a clean continuing resolution,
which means we spend money at the same level so
as we did the previous year. And I came out
officially that I opposed it because it amounts to about
a three percent cut to military spending. Our troops would
get a pay raise and you couldn't get ken do
(00:59):
any new contracts to the military, and here we're trying
to prepare for Russia, China, Iran to have a better military,
and we're going backwards. I made that public comment and
a White House called me, was out a Sunday and so, hey,
we heard you. We agree, And so they went in
and made, you know, significant changes to the c R
for military. We plused it up. New contracts, twenty two
new navy ships, a new submarine, and a good pay
(01:22):
raise for our junior listed. And so I felt like,
you know, they responded to me, and I needed to
support that. What I'm seeing is the Democrats are so
angry right now that they wanted to shut the government
down as a sign of resistance. Says that what we saw
on the House side. You know, you thought in the
state of the Union, where you could have a widow
or a kid with cancer, they won't stand up for him.
(01:43):
But the angers is bubbling out. And that's what's what
happened when I went to the Senate. And initially they
were responding to the AOC faction of their their party
and they were going to shut down the government. But Schumer,
I'll give him credit. He I think he showed some
comment censors says, hey, we show this down. Everybody knows
it's going to be a Democrat shutdown. It's gonna be
the Schumer shut down because ninety nine percent of the
(02:05):
Republicans voted to keep it open, and ninety nine percent
of the House when we voted, voted to shut the
government down. And if they shot, the Democrats shut it
down in the sun everything to know who's who's the
fault here. I think he showed a little bit coilent
suns yesterday when he changed his mind.
Speaker 1 (02:20):
We're talking about this because you know, it really matters.
Do you think that pressure, because it's been very public
pressure in the last eighteen hours or so on national TV,
all the social media accounts for a lot of you know,
high profile Democrats saying that no, this is I can't
believe that he would even insinuate doing such a thing,
(02:40):
and like you mentioned, you know, just not wanting to
really play ball with what the Republicans want to do.
Do you think that that growing pressure from people in
his own party is going to change people's mind or
do you think he might just end up being on
an island on this Well.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
He's already got Thutderment, Thutterman. He's a Democratic puzzle. So
right now you've got two of them. Now say they're
gonna vote to uh and really they're gonna play do
two things. They're gonna vote to stop the filibuster, and
then they still may vote against the spending bill. But
you take sixty votes to break a filibuster, and then
once they break it, then it only takes fifty one
(03:17):
of votes. And the Republicans probably do that on their own,
so they may not they may vote to break the
filibuster but then still vote against the bill itself. We'll see.
I think once the Schumer is the leader of their
of the Senate Democrats, and if he says we don't
want this to be the Schumer shutdown, I think there
will be enough Democrats that will go with them because
(03:38):
a vote no, and if it shuts down, everyth's gonna say.
The Republicans ninety voted to keep government going, and ninety
nine percent of the Democrats, at least on the House side,
voted to shut it down, and they're not gonna get
away from that. It's it's a middle America doesn't like
shutdowns that by ninth year they do not like them,
and it'll and whoever does them their fault. Uh.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
We're speaking with Representative Don Bacon representing Dale mahi Aria
in the second Congressional District of Nebraska. So this bill specifically,
like you mentioned, there was you know, some adjustments that
were being made. But I think and I was trying
to explain this, a lot of these bills, there's always
kind of just other things that maybe we're not talking
(04:21):
too much about that are involved here. How big is
this bill and how long does it take to kind
of put something like this together for a full vote.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
It took months of negotiating and we ended up doing
a lot less than we wanted. We wanted to do
a smarter appropriations bill that was not a cr and
make but frankly, the just to be blunt about it,
the son of democrats. We need we need seven votes.
Unless you're doing a reconciliation building, you can just do
(04:51):
it on you don't need a filibuster. We needed seven
Democrat votes for appropriations bill. And they're so mad right
now about what's going on with those in particular in
their minds that they could we could never get agreement.
So do we pass? Well, we're just gonna do a
CR and then I had to point out, ay, CR
is not good for fturing China, Russia and Iran, and
(05:11):
I think they had enough people agreeing with me, so
they've made some adjustments. And beyond it, they also added
border patrol, the added firefighters, so there's more changes than
just the military. But we've been negotiating this since January
and finally we just gave up. They we couldn't get
seven Democrats to agree to any appropriations bill, so that's
(05:31):
when we tried to go the CR route with the
hope that they wouldn't shut the government down. All right.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Nanty Pelosi kind of mentioned, and I think there are
plenty of people that agree with her that the idea
that that you could have, you know, maybe a little
more of a stopgap bill just like three or four
weeks where it can cover us so we'd not have
a shutdown, but then we would have to come up
with another more long term bill coming up. You know
(05:58):
at the end of that, Considering what you just said,
do you think that would even really make any difference,
because you just going back to the negotiating table with
people that don't seem to be willing to negotiate or compromise.
Speaker 2 (06:09):
We've been negotiating this for three months, couldn't get to
first base with the son of Democrats in particular, and
so first another month. So we should have had this
done in September thirtieth of last year, and then we
kicked the can to December, which is wrong. And then
we had an option. We could have tried to get
a bipartisan bill because the Democrats are running the sentence
(06:29):
still have Joe Biden, but nobody had appetite for doings
on appropriations de villains December, so then they put it
to March March fourteenth, which President Trump wasn't happy about
because now he's got to worry about this while I
tryed to do reconcilation bill. But I would just say
we've been trying to negotiate something for months and for
them to say, hey, another month, you know, at some
point we're already halfway into the fiscal year, and so I, frankly,
(06:54):
I think we're heartbroke. We're dysfunctional, and doing a cr
like this for a year, even though it's modified, it
is a sign of a hyperpartisan Congress and environment. Okay,
tell you, the only thing that's more dysfunction is to
shut down. To shut down, it's even worse in my view.
Speaker 1 (07:12):
Don Bacon a representative from the second Congressional District in
Nebraska joining us. So, with that all being said, how
do you kind of rate the you know, first eight
weeks here of this administration. I know that a lot
of this time has been trying to get the cabinet
in place and come up with what the agenda looks like.
I know Doze has kind of stolen a lot of
(07:33):
the headlines from people outside of DC looking inward. What
kind of has been you know, your grade from where
you sit in Washington as to what you're seeing from
this administration versus maybe what Trump did the first time
and maybe the last four years as well. With Joe Biden, well.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
He's definitely different than the first four years, a lot
more aggressive, I would say, coming out right out of
the choot. Obviously totally different than Joe Biden's four years.
I get some mixed grades. I'm the bust. I don't
believe in this. You've got to be one hundred percent
yes with somebody, or or a zero percent. I'm more
I'd like to I call more boel strikes. I see
(08:11):
a lot of great stuff. I just think our border
is the best that's ever been in twenty five years.
This is the best border environment in twenty five years.
I think this president deserves a lot of credit for that.
It was getting better under Joe Biden at the end.
Because they realized they were going to get beat in
all the elections, they didn't make changes, but they responded
too late. Frankly, I think the president's decisions on energy,
(08:33):
it's going to be critical that we're going to be
all of the above. Energy we're going to be those
dominant country in the world, and energy production and energy exports.
We can wean Europe totally off of Russian gas, for example.
And so I know I'm very complimentary that I'm a
complimentary of getting rid of the Luddy's regulations that were
strangling business. Now in Ukraine. I praise the desire to
(08:56):
have peace. We want peace. I just critical that they
don't have a lot of moral clarity they treat them.
They basically called Zelanski a dictator and the freezing for
the war, and it's specific the one ad out it's
Putin's a dictator and he's the invaders. I just like
I almost like to ensure that we have moral clarity
on what's going on on there. You know, the tariffs.
(09:17):
I got mixed feelers there too. I think reciprocal terriffs
makes sense. If one side's putting twenty percent tariffs on us,
then we should do because I believe a free trade,
but our producers and our farmers and branchers, they deserve
a level playing field. That said, I know China has
a trade agreement with this and there're one hundred percent
in compliance. So I'm not sure why the focus on
(09:39):
Canada for if I surely we'd be focusing on China
that puts up barriers in Mexico. You have blocked our
corn for two years even though we had an agreement
with them, and so I think the reciprocal trade is good,
but I would be I'd be make sure I focus
on those who are blocking our exports to create a
freer trade environment. Oh, I think it's very important that
(09:59):
we have a good accounting and a good auditing of
allor spending fire applot. We've learned things that the US,
the idea has been hiding and trying to cover or
you know, to conceal for years. I mean doing transgender
programs in Guatemala, Serbia doing the atheism program and nepaal
None of that stuff makes sense, but I've got to
remember they do some good things too. They save about
(10:21):
a million lives a year in Africa from AIDS. They're
very good with Ebola. I just want I want us
to be a little more precise on what we decide
to take out or who we fire, and when you
fire people and then you got to bring them back
in because you realize it's a mistake that creates But
we're talking about real people here and they just I
just think we could do that a little a little
more precisely and with a little more thought, and then
(10:44):
you'd have less turmoil when you realize. But for example,
when you fire FAA guys and then you realize, hey,
we need we need these guys to keep our skies
safe for flying, and you got to bring it back in.
It would have been better not to do that to
begin with. So this is some of my thoughts.
Speaker 1 (11:00):
Yeah, last thing for you at Representative Bacon. You're a
military man, and I know that you've been very outspoken
on Ukraine and you kind of touched on it there
for a second but knowing that there has been seemingly
quite a bit of progress made with the Ukrainians this
week with Marco Rubio, Mike Waltz going over in speaking
with him in Saudi Arabia and now the ball kind
of in Russia's court. Uh, where are we? On a
(11:21):
scale of maybe one to ten, you know, one being
we are it's ground, you know, like they literally at
the ground right now. We don't feel like we have
confidence that this will end? Where or ten? Where you
know you feel like the end is emminent? Where are we?
Based on what you're seeing and hearing?
Speaker 2 (11:39):
I give it about a five. You know, Ukraine is
always willing to have a just piece. But who wants
who wants to give avoid territory because of other country
in nature? Right? I mean, they don't want to. They
don't want to reward Putin's behavior. He's bombed or cities,
he killed their POW's. I just go on and on.
But they're a willingness. They want to end the war,
they want to be part of the US. They want
to get their economy back going. I'm were on Putin
(12:00):
because he said he's very clear, I want adjust peace,
but I want Ukraine to have no military and they
can't have any allies with the West, and just basically
he wants to still dominate them and basically leave them
vulnerable to future attacks there. And I think that's unacceptable.
Would I would submit if they have to give up
any territory Ukraine to Russia, then they should be allowed
(12:23):
to be aligned with whoever they want to be aligned with,
whether it's NATO or EU or whoever. They deserve security
guarantees that will give them a sense of safety. Russia
cannot be trusted with them, and frankly, you can't trust
them anywhere. If you're anybody's a neighbor with Russia. They're scared.
And I know it firsthand. I've been in many of
these countries and they have hundreds of years of history
(12:45):
of Russia invading them and trying to subdue them and
dominate them. And that's just the fact of life. The
soy of the Baltic countries. You know, they're they're the
most American. You talk to the leaders, they'll say they're
more America and than we are, or more pro American
than we are. But earlier they live in fear of
what Russia could do to them.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Yeah, it makes a lot of sense, and this is
why we like to talk to people who know what
they're talking about, like Representative Don Bacon. We appreciate the
insight on the spending bill and all the other things
that are happening in Washington. I'm sure we'll talk to
you again very soon.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Thank you.
Speaker 1 (13:19):
Yeah, how about that. Getting a chance to speak with
Representative Bacon always an honor.
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