March 17, 2025 • 58 mins
St. Patty's Day Has Gone Too Far. And That's What's Great About It.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Saint Patti's Day? Have we gone too far? It did
Saint Patrick's Day? Did we lose the plot on Saint
Patrick's Day?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I think it's just an excuse to drink. We know
what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Well, isn't that exactly what we make fun of Groundhog
Day for being like?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Are we that? Like?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Like?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Isn't sync of the Mile the same thing? Except with
margare Rae's at a Green Beer? Absolutely, welcome to America?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What are we doing here? If you move here, we'll
give you a holiday and we'll make it about drinking
and we'll just drink. Yeah. I don't mind that part.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I was like, this is whatever. But I mean after
you watch the festivities at Punks a Tawny Pennsylvania at
Gobbler's Knob, your opinion on the whole thing changed quite
a bit.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh, I you know, you got to tell the people
the context matters. I have to tell the story again. Yeah,
all right. So I woke up it was Sunday morning,
and before I shipped myself off to church, I had
to do what a fine regular young American. Hopefully I'll
be doing this the rest of my life because I'm regular, right,
I had to do the regular thing that you do
in the morning. What exactly are you talking about? Brush
(00:59):
my teeth? Oh and other bathroom stuff too. Okay, So
I was, you know, and so I was seeking entertainment
during this time, as a normal American does. There is
nothing weird about that. And so I just popped open
the old iPad because I'm fancy like that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh you take an iPad in there, that's right. People
used to have books in there.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Anyway, go ahead, and not a book guy, iPad guy.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
So great.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Now people are gonna come over to my house. They're
gonna see the iPad, they're gonna know where it's bed.
It's just perfect. I'm so happy. That's great.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, all right, I mean there are people that put
literal magazines on like the back of the of the
toilet for these reasons.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I mean, they just lived there. Well, yeah, if you actually,
if you sit, if you sit the other way around it,
you can kind of use legg a shelf. You can
have Milt the cookies up there. Not that I would
do that, but you could. No, So that's bad. So
I popped open the iPad and lo and behold it was.
They were alive out a gobblers nob and I thought, wow,
look at this.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, you see you can see his first time you
did to see the magic happen.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I tuned in just at the right time. The festivities
were going on, and they were just about to take
the groundhog out. And I just tell you, I had
never really checked in. I always thought the holiday sounded
kind of silly. And then I watched it and I
just was like, this is what they do. And there's
a gathering of people standing out in the freezing cold
for this. I just couldn't believe it. I really still
can't believe it. I sat there and I just was, Yeah,
(02:27):
it was I can't believe that that's what they're doing.
They pulled this groundhog out of there. He looks like
he's zonked out of his mind. He's on four or
five different designer drugs to make him nice and docile,
that's all I know. And so they yanked this guy
out of there, and then they read this letter as
if a groundhog wrote the thing. The guy's reading it, yep,
(02:49):
and it's just like, just get to the drinking party.
Bozo's like, give me a break, my groundhog experience.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And we were supposed to have six more weeks of winter,
and look look what ended up happening.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Right, the groundhog was completely wrong. He's wrong, he's he's wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He's right, like thirty four percent of the time, an
actual stat from since like the eighteen seventies when these
imbeciles started doing this thing. Anyway, my old thing is,
we made a huge excuse to like do that to
today drink. And I don't mind the day drinking. I'll
have a day drink right now, Like where's the bar, Like,
(03:29):
let's do it, you know what I mean? Yeah, I
like day drinking. I think it's good.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean, you know, I think day drinking is is
a is an early bedtime. That's what it is. Well,
of course it is.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But at the same time, like it's just a you know,
it's one of those things, man, you gotta you gotta,
you gotta live in a moment. And there's something about
day drinking with a bunch of people. It just like
makes you feel like you're gonna have a good day.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's not the alcohol, it's the community. And so we
came up with all these different ideas of holidays that
we could like have that feeling. And Saint Patrick's Day
is like the biggest of them all. Like, we directly
associate this, not with the groundhog, not with the leprechaun,
not with anything really substantial other than the fact that
we wear green and we drink green beer and we
(04:13):
just are drinking all day. That's what Saint Patrick's Day
is for people. Now, I can see if you're like
at Irish heritage and Saint Patrick actually like means something
to you, then like maybe I'd be a little peeved
at that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I don't know, Eh, you think there's somebody Do you
really think there's someone out there who just is peeved?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I got a text during my morning show today of somebody.
It wasn't them, it was their like grandma, who was like,
what one hundred percent Irish. Now, again, that's a couple
of generations ago, you know, so like, and this isn't
to say that people a couple of generations older than us,
you know, are a little more sensitive about this stuff.
But there was a bit more prejudice and a bit
more protection on people's cultures back then, whereas now, you know,
(04:55):
it feels like a lot of people mostly are having
a lot of fun unless you're doing something insanely inappropriate,
but he equated it to his grandma said that, you know,
it was like wearing blackface or you know, just like yeah,
I mean it was just like a completely appropriation, a
complete appropriation of what Irish people were. That is an
absurd a the equivalation or whatever, analogy or I don't
(05:19):
disagree with you. I'm just saying that there at least
was one person, at least I'm the messenger here that
reportedly felt that offended by the fact that we have,
you know, americanized Irish people to that extent. You got
to remember Irish people were prejudiced against in the eighteen
hundreds quite a bit. I mean, yeah, when they had
the famine and they came over and droves, they came
(05:41):
over and droves, and they had nothing to their name,
and they were I mean, they really were treated like
second class citizens by most of the people that had been.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Here for a while. If you watch Gangs in New York, yeah,
that's about that.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, there's a lot of TV shows, the period pieces
of Civil War time and thereafter that people are like that.
And the Irish were excellent baseball players. That was like
the first like real thing that they ended up like
kind of having a hold on and that was like,
what is it about baseball? It really just inspires people
who you know, don't seem to have a whole lot
in this country. But even back in the eighteen seventies
(06:13):
and eighties, when baseball is just getting going at the
professional level, that was the game of the Irish. But
when did we start doing this on Saint Patrick's Day,
the parades at everything now? The answer to that question
is the first Saint Patrick's Day parade was in New
York City, held in seventeen sixty two, So this is
even before the famine. Wow, there was no parade in
Ireland seventeen sixty two or reportedly yeah, before America was America. Yeah,
(06:39):
I mean we hadn't even started the revolute We were
a decade away from the revolution happening at that point.
I think we were a little bit feisty, but we
may not have been ready to revolt like we ended
up doing a decade later. But there's something to be
said for that, right. It's just like, you know, we
had a little bit of a melting pot of those
countries and then of course had a little bit of
influence with the French in the Spanish issue are also
(07:01):
kind of in North America. At that point, what did you, uh,
what do you think about all that? Do you think
we have gone too far.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Too far? In in what? In what way?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Have we have we taken this too? Like the day
drinking too much? Did we miss like? Have we missed
the whole point of this?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Like the Groundhog day? We know what the point is.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The point is to act like this groundhog is seeing
a shadow and then like if he does or he
does it, we say it and then we go drink.
This is just kind of like, hey, we're green and
we're gonna drink all day and we're just like attributing
it to being Irish like people people like they're just like, yeah,
I'm Irish for one day a year. We're not say
safe too, because we're not Irish, Like we're terrible guys.
(07:41):
Ask we might have a cleany little sleever of laterally,
what is Saint Patrick's stay doing to you?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
If you're Irish? Like, how does it hurt you? How
does that hurt you?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well that's a good question, Well how does anything hurt us?
But I mean we live in an eraw where we
want to be bothered by things. Well, I think I
think for the for all of time, people have been
looking for me to be bothered by things. People are
generally more happy when they're unhappy. They like to have
something to complain about. Listen to our phone lines before
Donald Trump was elected. Listen to our phone lines after
Donald Trump was elected. You know what I'm saying, Like
(08:12):
people are generally a little bit less angry about what's
going on in politics these days. I'm just taking the
temperature of the phone line. Yeah, you know, you're a
lot less passionate when you're happy, so easier to be
passionate and angry. Like, why do you think we keep
talking about North Carolina getting this stupid basketball tournament because
it's corrupt. The NCAA is corrupt, and North Carolina got
in because their athletic director was the chairman of the committee,
(08:34):
the Celesti Committee. That's what we want to talk about
instead of talking about, Hey, how about a great season
that creating that? How about those U and O MAVs.
That's where people are, and I think just people are
looking for something to complain about. Or you hate drinking.
I mean, imagine being a person that doesn't like alcohol,
trying to be like, oh yeah, you're supposed to participate
and wear green on Saint Patrick's Day, Like oh well,
(08:56):
that missus Bouchet would be like, that's the devil. Well,
I mean, if you were Irish and you were I mean,
I don't know it is. That is the one thing
that's kind of hurtful to just say all Irish people
are heavy drinkers. And I think that's where I think
some of the hardcore Irish people feel like that, like
(09:16):
we've taken a turn that direction instead of like it
being like a feast and a celebration of Irish heritage.
Now it's just like everybody pretends they're Irish by drinking
all day. I can't understand how that could be somewhat
offensive if somebody's Irish.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
But also that's just kind of America, Like Americans are
just looking for a reason to drink. That's it. That's
just kind of generally this place and generally be offensive
if you were spoofing America, like let's say that, like
you know, someplace in Europe had America Day, they would
just sit around on a cowboy hat and their underwear drinking.
That's all they'd celebrate America Day with stars and stripes
(09:49):
and fireworks. Right, they'd be blowing stuff up in their
underwear and wearing a cowboy hat and just getting plastered.
Would we be bothered by that problem? Some people would?
I mean, I I.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Think that'd be funny. But at the same time, I
can understand if you're like a red blooded American being like, do.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You think that's what America is?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, I'm sure there's people in Ireland there just like
you think that's what I being Irish is, And you know,
I think there's a little bit of room of you know, like, yeah,
it kind of looks kind of stupid if you're full
full blown Irish. We we die an entire river in
Chicago green like for what?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, did they love green over there? Like what's the
green thing?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Well, green is in the is a shamrock, and the
green rolling hills and there's green in the flag and
all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I don't know, if you.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Want to call in you got some Irish comments on
here one way or the other. Four oh two five
five eight to eleven ten four oh two five five
eight eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Kfab Emery Sunger on News Radio eleven ten kfab and beer.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I just feel like there's a little bit more to
the Irish culture than that. But hey, on St. Patty's Day,
nobody cares. It's all about the green beer baby. She
lives on a phone line of four h two five five,
eight eleven ten. Wanting to talk to us today.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
She loa, Oh hi, you were talking. I'm not Saint
Patrick Stan stuff and I love it. I'm Irish sixty
five percent. I go to a little town in Iowa
called Imma Jean. They party. The population is tiny and
like quadruples. I don't drink a ton and I definitely
don't drink beer. But it's corn beef and.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Cabbage, oh cornby that's right.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, And people play games and have a parade
and respect to elderly and we have a wonderful time
and play games and stuff. So I love it. It's
what buck me is that people who drink and think
that that's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, it's kind of like the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
And I've equated this to a lot of different holidays, right,
It's like Christmas now is about the gift giving more
so than it's about like remembering, you know, the Christian
aspect of the holiday.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You know, absolutely an independence stay too.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Right now, it's all of a sudden about you know,
dressing in red, white and blue and blowing stuff up
instead of thinking about like what those guys went through
to make our black country. You know, so right, I'm
with you. I think I think we the plot a
little bit because of the commercialization of a lot of
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Sheila absolutely gotta respect Saint Patrick, and you do some
research people out there, you'll understand the deal.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Hey, there it is.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
She'll appreciate you listening to the show and calling in
thank you. Yeah, see, there you go. That's exactly what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Independence is the same thing we've appropriated ourselves in a way. Now,
all of a sudden, we're just like Fords of July
close off up instead of just like, hey man, like
maybe we should watch seventeen seventy six the musical, or
you know, read David mccollough's great book seventeen seventy six
or I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But that's a lot less fun.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I'm not saying we shouldn't do it. I'm just saying
that we you know, we forget why that's a thing.
Weget why we're allowed to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Is, you know, there's all.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The whole point is if we celebrate our independence from
those cronies in the United Kingdom that we just kind
of also happen to be celebrating today. Anyway. It's not
the exact same people, but it's close enough to the
same people. Jay's on our phone line of four h
two five, five, eight eleven ten.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Jay?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm just taking it out. Yeah, what's going on with you?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Well, I am irish. I won't run away from that,
but I won't let you folks know. You both need
to go back to English school. If I got a
dollar for every time you said you know or you like,
I'd be a rich man. Think about that one.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Uh what like do you mean? You know? Like what
you like? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Jay?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
What there you go?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
I just made three bucks?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Who's paying you this money? How do we get a cut?
I mean I could just say that the whole entire
show for making money.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Well, no, you're not making money. You're just embarrassing yourself.
An English language is not you know? And I like
or like this English language is a sentence you need
to use.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I mean, I I appreciate the critique here, But Jay,
who's getting paid to talk for a living? I mean
I might, I might be embarrassing myself, but I'm stilletting
hate to talk. You're not getting paid at all, except
when I say liking you know, apparently.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
All right, you keep saying that and I'll keep making money.
How's that sound?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean, I still want to know where this is
coming from. Is this some sort of leprechaun like a
like a put of gold?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:15):
No, this this is where today's kids. And I put
you guys in that group. They do not know how
to speak the English language. And we all have saying
that we get caught up on. Everybody is getting caught
up on, you know, and like you like like like
and it's just you know.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I say, it's just Jay, It's just you know, it's
just like we're like like like Jay, like we're just talking.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
You know, it's just like talking.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
You know, it's a disease.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's not a disease.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Jay, Jay, Jay, I appreciate the call, and I'm glad
that you're you're poking fun and you're contiquing us, and
you felt strongly enough about this call in. But it's
really not that deep, man. It's we're just sitting here.
We're just chatting like people chat at the bar. We're
sitting here chatting like people do at the dinner table.
We don't have to be like chief orators or something
like Billy Graham or Abraham Lincoln to get our points across.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It's too much, too all right, Well I haven't said.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
That on the air.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
All right, Bye, Jay, I have a little fun.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
JAG's lighting up. I figured like I talk a lot
for a living. I talked for six hours on the
radio every single day. I have tics. You have ticks.
We all have tics. Everybody has a tick. I just
happen to have a lot more ticks. I think that
are more noticeable than people. You know why, because you
hear me way more than you hear anyone else every
single day, probably except maybe the people you're living with.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
We all have filler words, you know, when when you're
searching for the thing you want to say next.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Jay said uh or like four times in that last sentence. Yeah, Jay,
any one's gonna call you out. Jay Gee whiz man gee,
whizz Gee whiz j Man, Jay, come on, Jay, give
it the brag. A though he is Irish, maybe he's
just peeved that, you know, we're celebrating Saint Patrick's day
like this. Hey, we'll keep taking calls, We'll keep thinking
about you, and we love talking to you, even if
(16:08):
we do have some verbal ticks. And if you want
to call in and be a part of the fun today,
four h two five five eight eleven ten is the number.
Four h two five five eight to eleven ten. We'll
come back talk to you next on news radio eleven ten.
Kfab Emery Sunger. He's just start a four line that
we got the phone lines open if you want to
call in. Four two five to five to eleven ten. Hey, zeus,
welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Brother. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
How are you doing? My friend?
Speaker 6 (16:32):
I can't complain a great show today.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
One thing, you know, I agree with you on the
commercialization of everything from Christmas Eastern all of the same
with Saint Pats. If you go back and look that
Saint Pats wasn't even Irish.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
He was kidnapped and.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Sold into slavery and Ireland, and then he escaped Ireland
and when made it to a monastery in England and
then went from there he was he then committed his
life to introducing Christianity to that area, those areas in Scotland,
I mean in Ireland. And you know, if you knew
that the shamrock, the way he did that as part
(17:12):
of his ministry. He introduced it by the shamrock where
one represented God, the other one represented Jesus Christ and
the other one represented the Holy Spirit. And that's the
way he That was one of the ways that he
introduced Christianity to those in that area in Ireland.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Now, see, this is the history that nobody talks about
because they're just like, hey, zus, that was way too
long for you to explain it to me.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Just handing my green beer. That's all anybody cares about, now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I know. And that's we got to remember the spirituality
to it. The Godly God used Saint Patrick to breathe.
Even though there was others that brought Christianity to Ireland,
people remembered him the most that he gave his life
to introduce Christianity to the Irish and so there and
people forget that too. Is that drinking was even prohibited
(18:03):
during Saint pat and then it got reintroduced. So yeah,
the thing that we got to remember, we got if
we forget these things that on how God uses people
and how God bring us brings Christianity to those that
may have not heard about the Word of God, about Jesus,
about the Holy Spirit, and about the Three as one. Yeah,
(18:27):
and you know, so there's my take. Open the can
of worms. I'll let you go at it from there.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Hey man, thanks for that. Thanks for calling us Jesus
as always.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
You take care you guys, have a great day and
stay safe.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, you too, good stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I'll talk a little bit more about that because I
got the kind of a bullet point list of the
history of Saint Patrick's day. I'm going to get tw
in a second, but first I got to get the
Beth on the phone line. Beth, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I hear you. You have some comments on Matt and
I's vernacular.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah, by the way, I did not know that information
on the last caller.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Yeah, it was like I didn't know about that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, you know, no, nobody, nobody knows what they don't
know until somebody tells them.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Beth.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
You know, you know, you're talking to people that know.
They're usually people that know. You know. I mean, it's
like I know, you know when I talk to you,
you know what I mean, there's nothing really to say
because we.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Know I don't know Beth, like you know, like, yeah, right.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
It's great. I don't know why anybody would be upset
about knowing.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Uh fair enough, fair enough, Beth. So uh so do
you like that we talk like that? Or do you
not like that we talked like that?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Well, I gotta say I talk like that because I'll
do that too. Not all the time, but sometimes I
go there and I go, you know what I mean,
don't you know zactly what I mean?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Like I saw that and.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I knew that, so I do.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way I feel. I
definitely feel the same way back.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Hey, But thanks for calling us, because it's it's important
to note that it's not just a Matt and I thing.
It's something that you know, can can maybe get everybody,
you know. So I appreciate you knowing that we know
and you know, and like I appreciate that you called
us to.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Let us know that, you know, Like, I'm so happy
about knowing.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Thanks, Beth, have a good day.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I'm glad she held out. I wasn't sure she was
gonna but she she did. Good there, that was good.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Travis is on our phone line of four of two, five, five,
eight elevens and welcome in, Travis.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Hey? How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I cannot complain, Travis, how are you?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You know?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I'm doing? Okaysky drinking has drinking has a.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Lot to do with the uh prove meaning of St.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Patrick's day? And and uh it's a little unknown fact
that God created alcohol to keep the Irish.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
From ruling the world.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:04):
You know that's you know.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
You knew that, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I mean, I believe it now. I mean, now that
I have been told, I have no choice but to
believe it.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I think. I think that's how that works.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right, You say something, It's just it's just factual, you know,
somebody somebody says yeah, you know, you know yeah, like
for sure, you know, like those words are going to
be the new A like Canadians say A and on
our show, just everybody's going to start saying that because
now we've been called out because we say that.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And it was ridiculous, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I guess that's just like your opinion. Man, you know, well,
you know it is what it is. You know, it
is what it is thanks to the contract. I appreciate
the call.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
If you can't laugh at yourself, I gotta tell you.
I think I say you know as an appendage to
a lot of stuff, though, just to cuse somebody else
to talk. It's it's easier for you and me when
we look at each other because then they're like visual
cues that it's your turn. Yeah, when you're talking to
somebody on the phone or you can't hear me, and
(22:22):
I just kind of even some rhetorically, like it's not
even I'm not even talking to anybody in particular.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I'm just speaking rhetorically.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'll say that so you can kind of think of
like what your response would be if I said that.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
But you know, you know, yeah, you know, you know,
I know what you mean, you know, And that's actually
really thoughtful. I think you're right about that. You say
you know, because you're trying to give someone a verbal
cue to join in your turns. You say something and
you say you know, I mean, you could probably break
out the old thesaurus and try to find a couple
more to throw in there, just for Jay's you know, yeah,
(22:56):
mental health.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, I could do that. I could do that if
I cared. I'm not so sure i'd do though, I
haven't decided yet. Okay, So here it is nineteen seventy.
What is nineteen seventy in Why is that significant to
Saint Patrick's Day? Nineteen seventy Shoot.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
That was the first year they died the River Green.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
No, until nineteen seventy, Saint Patrick's Day was a dry holiday,
no alcohol allowed. What yeah, I mean the Irish what
do you mean? It was classified as a religious holiday.
The Irish prohibited drinking on religious holidays.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So in Ireland you couldn't. You couldn't well, I think
even in America. I think in America too.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
But once it was lifted as a national it was
kind of reclassified as a national festival in nineteen seventy,
which I think is probably a little bit more accurate
to the way that we're celebrating it now.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So if that's the case that allowed for themercialization to
get in, it was the beer companies like Gainness jumped
in and said, Yo, you know what would be great
is if you like drink Irish beer. And then everybody
wanted to like get in on the act. A lot
of you know, non Irish beers pretend to be Irish
for the day. And then the wearing of green this
drink something. That stuff didn't happen until later. Not to
(24:20):
say that, you know a few generations ago you didn't
wear green on this day. But you go back and
watch like nineteen eighties NBA games, just look at what
people are wearing.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Even in the nineteen.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Eighties, there's not a lot of like team gear that
people are wearing. It's not until you get into the
nineties and all of a sudden you start seeing all
this cool team gear getting kind of sold. You know
that stuff was limited back in the seventies and eighties.
Now you know, it's just like commercialize everything. Well, I
think that's what happened. That same kind of thing happened,
turning stuff green and trying to capitalize on that momentum
(24:50):
in the eighties and nineties, and Saint Patrick's Day has
since become synonymous with the beer, the celebrations, pub cross,
Irish whiskey, all that stuff, and has absolutely nothing to
do with religion. If you could you go down to
that Saint Patrick's Day parade, I would bet nine out
of ten people, nine out of every ten people that
you pull would say that they would observe this as
(25:12):
a drinking holiday or a celebratory holiday, not something that
has a religious background. Are we okay with that? I mean,
it's not it's not my it's not my ship to sail.
I suppose I just don't care that much. I'm more
passionate about Groundhog Day than I am this because this
is literally just day drinking, you know, a groundhog Day.
(25:32):
We pester wrote it before we allow ourselves to day
drink while wearing top hats and both ties.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
America's kind of a silly place, but that's what I
like about it.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
It's a weird place, man, It's weird. And wait until
we get to Sink of Demyo. We could have this
entire conversation about that too, because that's the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But now that is a holiday that has definitely been
appropriated into you know, like that, it.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Doesn't even hold the same significance as we think it holds.
You can quiz anybody in America about what the significance
of Cinco de Mayo is doesn't it have something? It's
celebrating your lost loved ones. I thought, Okay, now see,
I don't think that's right. But I'll look it up
and I'll tell you what it is when we come back,
just so we have a couple of months to, you know,
prepare ourselves for that. On news Radio eleven to ten
(26:18):
Kfab and Maurice Sung, I mean, what's an American holiday anyway?
Groundhog Day is, although I think it was one of
the stupider ideas in US history. Although I do think
that it was inspired by something else from somewhere else.
The Independence Day certainly is an American holiday. I thinks
givvings an American holiday. That's a good one. We haven't
we haven't really ruined that one yet, And maybe that's
(26:40):
why why people don't talk about it the same way
as maybe they once did, because it doesn't revel in
in the like Halloween gets a lot more hype because
of the commercialization. Well, anyway, sink of Demayo, what do
you think of you?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You? What did you say? You thought it was? Matt?
I was just thinking that I remember that Cinco Demayo
is a holiday that is built around remembering our.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Lost loved ones. Okay, you are wrong. Cool, here is
the answer. What I would think is it's Mexican Independence Day.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
A lot of people are like, assume that's like Mexico's
Fourth of July, if you will. Sinco to Mayo actually
stands for the fifth of May exactly, so it makes
it like people just kind of assume that that correlates, right,
doesn't sink of to Mayo celebrates Mexico's victory over France
and the Battle of Puebla on the fifth of May
of eighteen sixty two during the Franco Mexican War. It
(27:33):
is not Mexico's Independence Day. They celebrate their own independence
day on September sixteenth.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Every year.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
September sixteenth, that's Mexico's Independence Day. We're not even close.
It's not even close anyway, Mexico. Here's the history of that,
and I'm sure we'll have to revisit this when everybody
just wants to order Margarite's. Mexico was in financial trouble
and big thanks to artificial intelligence for helping me sort
this out. They'd stopped repaying their debts to European countries.
(28:02):
Which that sounds like a bad idea although, and that
what the United States is doing when they get further
and further into the national deaths, it's like, yeah, we're
not going to pay some of that. Well, France, who
was France's leader in eighteen sixty one, Napoleon the Third,
the third, huh Yeah, and he invaded trying to get
a North American empire for the French. But on May fifth,
eighteen sixty two, the Mexican army, led by General Ignacio
(28:25):
Zaragoza defeated the French forces in the Battle of Puebla.
I had no idea. So Napoleon was just going after everybody. Yeah,
it's a different Napoleon, but yeah, oh he was so
Napoleon Bonaparte was the first.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, you got to go back a couple of a
few decades. He was just China. Yeah, he was living
in his and his father's fall shadow grandfathers. But in yes,
the shadow was smaller than usual and yeah it's small
and very high. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, so it wasn't It didn't end the war, but
it was kind of that moment. And there are a
couple of moments like that where the United States or
the Continental Army in the United States Revolution beat the
big bad British, but that was kind of the same.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
It was the same idea.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Right, the Mexican army should not have had any chance
against the French army, and they did, and they ended
up winning a very important, an important battle. Even tho
if it didn't win the war, it boosted their morale
and symbolized the resistance against European domination. But in Mexico
it's celebrated in only Puebla with parades, re enactments, and festivals.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
But it's not a major national holiday. They just do
not care.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
In the United States, it has evolved into a celebration
of Mexican American culture, featuring food, music, marguerite is and beer.
Most of Mexico doesn't even look at this as a holiday.
Only Puebla does. Can you believe this September sixteenth is
the day they celebrate this stuff. But it was a
reason to party. So we took it. We took it
and we americanized it. It is ridiculous, It's insane.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
What are we doing here? You know, we could do
this more.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
We could just do it. We could make our own
holiday for anything. I say, we need more, not less. Okay,
So so what's what's April's holiday? We talked about this
on Lee Perics today. What you know what April is?
But I don't want to say I don't participate in it.
But the twentieth of April is what people? Oh yeah, no, no,
not that I can't really do anything out there.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I can't do. They don't think Satan Snoop Dogg? Is
is it the martyr of Willie Nelson? Oh yeah, he's
not dead. He's just he's just really zoned out.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
He's in a corner by himself, but not because he
needs help. He's just take it out, you know. Oh
I've been everywhere?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Man? Am I right? Yeah? Wow? Maybe there's something in Canada?
Why don't we give Canada day? What happened in Canada?
I don't think now is the right time. Maybe now
is the right time. I don't think now is the
right time.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
S up and no, no, I think I think now
is the wrong time. I don't think they're interested, and
I'm frankly not interested either. We we gotta we gotta
do a couple other things before we start appropriating Candians.
All of a sudden, we played we won the Stanley
Cup every year for like the last thirty two years.
I think that's good enough for the time being. More
on the Way on news Radio eleventh in KFAB
Saint Patti's Day? Have we gone too far? It did
Saint Patrick's Day? Did we lose the plot on Saint
Patrick's Day?
Speaker 2 (00:07):
I think it's just an excuse to drink. We know
what it is.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Well, isn't that exactly what we make fun of Groundhog
Day for being like?
Speaker 2 (00:13):
Are we that? Like?
Speaker 3 (00:15):
Like?
Speaker 1 (00:15):
Isn't sync of the Mile the same thing? Except with
margare Rae's at a Green Beer? Absolutely, welcome to America?
Speaker 2 (00:20):
What are we doing here? If you move here, we'll
give you a holiday and we'll make it about drinking
and we'll just drink. Yeah. I don't mind that part.
Speaker 4 (00:26):
You know.
Speaker 1 (00:27):
I was like, this is whatever. But I mean after
you watch the festivities at Punks a Tawny Pennsylvania at
Gobbler's Knob, your opinion on the whole thing changed quite
a bit.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
Oh, I you know, you got to tell the people
the context matters. I have to tell the story again. Yeah,
all right. So I woke up it was Sunday morning,
and before I shipped myself off to church, I had
to do what a fine regular young American. Hopefully I'll
be doing this the rest of my life because I'm regular, right,
I had to do the regular thing that you do
in the morning. What exactly are you talking about? Brush
(00:59):
my teeth? Oh and other bathroom stuff too. Okay, So
I was, you know, and so I was seeking entertainment
during this time, as a normal American does. There is
nothing weird about that. And so I just popped open
the old iPad because I'm fancy like that.
Speaker 1 (01:16):
Oh you take an iPad in there, that's right. People
used to have books in there.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Anyway, go ahead, and not a book guy, iPad guy.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
So great.
Speaker 2 (01:24):
Now people are gonna come over to my house. They're
gonna see the iPad, they're gonna know where it's bed.
It's just perfect. I'm so happy. That's great.
Speaker 1 (01:31):
Okay, all right, I mean there are people that put
literal magazines on like the back of the of the
toilet for these reasons.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
I mean, they just lived there. Well, yeah, if you actually,
if you sit, if you sit the other way around it,
you can kind of use legg a shelf. You can
have Milt the cookies up there. Not that I would
do that, but you could. No, So that's bad. So
I popped open the iPad and lo and behold it was.
They were alive out a gobblers nob and I thought, wow,
look at this.
Speaker 1 (01:58):
Okay, you see you can see his first time you
did to see the magic happen.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
I tuned in just at the right time. The festivities
were going on, and they were just about to take
the groundhog out. And I just tell you, I had
never really checked in. I always thought the holiday sounded
kind of silly. And then I watched it and I
just was like, this is what they do. And there's
a gathering of people standing out in the freezing cold
for this. I just couldn't believe it. I really still
can't believe it. I sat there and I just was, Yeah,
(02:27):
it was I can't believe that that's what they're doing.
They pulled this groundhog out of there. He looks like
he's zonked out of his mind. He's on four or
five different designer drugs to make him nice and docile,
that's all I know. And so they yanked this guy
out of there, and then they read this letter as
if a groundhog wrote the thing. The guy's reading it, yep,
(02:49):
and it's just like, just get to the drinking party.
Bozo's like, give me a break, my groundhog experience.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
And we were supposed to have six more weeks of winter,
and look look what ended up happening.
Speaker 2 (03:04):
Right, the groundhog was completely wrong. He's wrong, he's he's wrong.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
He's right, like thirty four percent of the time, an
actual stat from since like the eighteen seventies when these
imbeciles started doing this thing. Anyway, my old thing is,
we made a huge excuse to like do that to
today drink. And I don't mind the day drinking. I'll
have a day drink right now, Like where's the bar, Like,
(03:29):
let's do it, you know what I mean? Yeah, I
like day drinking. I think it's good.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I mean, you know, I think day drinking is is
a is an early bedtime. That's what it is. Well,
of course it is.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
But at the same time, like it's just a you know,
it's one of those things, man, you gotta you gotta,
you gotta live in a moment. And there's something about
day drinking with a bunch of people. It just like
makes you feel like you're gonna have a good day.
Speaker 2 (03:52):
You know.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's not the alcohol, it's the community. And so we
came up with all these different ideas of holidays that
we could like have that feeling. And Saint Patrick's Day
is like the biggest of them all. Like, we directly
associate this, not with the groundhog, not with the leprechaun,
not with anything really substantial other than the fact that
we wear green and we drink green beer and we
(04:13):
just are drinking all day. That's what Saint Patrick's Day
is for people. Now, I can see if you're like
at Irish heritage and Saint Patrick actually like means something
to you, then like maybe I'd be a little peeved
at that.
Speaker 2 (04:25):
I don't know, Eh, you think there's somebody Do you
really think there's someone out there who just is peeved?
Speaker 1 (04:31):
I got a text during my morning show today of somebody.
It wasn't them, it was their like grandma, who was like,
what one hundred percent Irish. Now, again, that's a couple
of generations ago, you know, so like, and this isn't
to say that people a couple of generations older than us,
you know, are a little more sensitive about this stuff.
But there was a bit more prejudice and a bit
more protection on people's cultures back then, whereas now, you know,
(04:55):
it feels like a lot of people mostly are having
a lot of fun unless you're doing something insanely inappropriate,
but he equated it to his grandma said that, you know,
it was like wearing blackface or you know, just like yeah,
I mean it was just like a completely appropriation, a
complete appropriation of what Irish people were. That is an
absurd a the equivalation or whatever, analogy or I don't
(05:19):
disagree with you. I'm just saying that there at least
was one person, at least I'm the messenger here that
reportedly felt that offended by the fact that we have,
you know, americanized Irish people to that extent. You got
to remember Irish people were prejudiced against in the eighteen
hundreds quite a bit. I mean, yeah, when they had
the famine and they came over and droves, they came
(05:41):
over and droves, and they had nothing to their name,
and they were I mean, they really were treated like
second class citizens by most of the people that had been.
Speaker 2 (05:48):
Here for a while. If you watch Gangs in New York, yeah,
that's about that.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Yeah, there's a lot of TV shows, the period pieces
of Civil War time and thereafter that people are like that.
And the Irish were excellent baseball players. That was like
the first like real thing that they ended up like
kind of having a hold on and that was like,
what is it about baseball? It really just inspires people
who you know, don't seem to have a whole lot
in this country. But even back in the eighteen seventies
(06:13):
and eighties, when baseball is just getting going at the
professional level, that was the game of the Irish. But
when did we start doing this on Saint Patrick's Day,
the parades at everything now? The answer to that question
is the first Saint Patrick's Day parade was in New
York City, held in seventeen sixty two, So this is
even before the famine. Wow, there was no parade in
Ireland seventeen sixty two or reportedly yeah, before America was America. Yeah,
(06:39):
I mean we hadn't even started the revolute We were
a decade away from the revolution happening at that point.
I think we were a little bit feisty, but we
may not have been ready to revolt like we ended
up doing a decade later. But there's something to be
said for that, right. It's just like, you know, we
had a little bit of a melting pot of those
countries and then of course had a little bit of
influence with the French in the Spanish issue are also
(07:01):
kind of in North America. At that point, what did you, uh,
what do you think about all that? Do you think
we have gone too far.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
Too far? In in what? In what way?
Speaker 3 (07:10):
Well?
Speaker 1 (07:11):
Have we have we taken this too? Like the day
drinking too much? Did we miss like? Have we missed
the whole point of this?
Speaker 4 (07:17):
Right?
Speaker 2 (07:18):
Like the Groundhog day? We know what the point is.
Speaker 1 (07:20):
The point is to act like this groundhog is seeing
a shadow and then like if he does or he
does it, we say it and then we go drink.
This is just kind of like, hey, we're green and
we're gonna drink all day and we're just like attributing
it to being Irish like people people like they're just like, yeah,
I'm Irish for one day a year. We're not say
safe too, because we're not Irish, Like we're terrible guys.
(07:41):
Ask we might have a cleany little sleever of laterally,
what is Saint Patrick's stay doing to you?
Speaker 2 (07:49):
If you're Irish? Like, how does it hurt you? How
does that hurt you?
Speaker 1 (07:51):
Well that's a good question, Well how does anything hurt us?
But I mean we live in an eraw where we
want to be bothered by things. Well, I think I
think for the for all of time, people have been
looking for me to be bothered by things. People are
generally more happy when they're unhappy. They like to have
something to complain about. Listen to our phone lines before
Donald Trump was elected. Listen to our phone lines after
Donald Trump was elected. You know what I'm saying, Like
(08:12):
people are generally a little bit less angry about what's
going on in politics these days. I'm just taking the
temperature of the phone line. Yeah, you know, you're a
lot less passionate when you're happy, so easier to be
passionate and angry. Like, why do you think we keep
talking about North Carolina getting this stupid basketball tournament because
it's corrupt. The NCAA is corrupt, and North Carolina got
in because their athletic director was the chairman of the committee,
(08:34):
the Celesti Committee. That's what we want to talk about
instead of talking about, Hey, how about a great season
that creating that? How about those U and O MAVs.
That's where people are, and I think just people are
looking for something to complain about. Or you hate drinking.
I mean, imagine being a person that doesn't like alcohol,
trying to be like, oh yeah, you're supposed to participate
and wear green on Saint Patrick's Day, Like oh well,
(08:56):
that missus Bouchet would be like, that's the devil. Well,
I mean, if you were Irish and you were I mean,
I don't know it is. That is the one thing
that's kind of hurtful to just say all Irish people
are heavy drinkers. And I think that's where I think
some of the hardcore Irish people feel like that, like
(09:16):
we've taken a turn that direction instead of like it
being like a feast and a celebration of Irish heritage.
Now it's just like everybody pretends they're Irish by drinking
all day. I can't understand how that could be somewhat
offensive if somebody's Irish.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
But also that's just kind of America, Like Americans are
just looking for a reason to drink. That's it. That's
just kind of generally this place and generally be offensive
if you were spoofing America, like let's say that, like
you know, someplace in Europe had America Day, they would
just sit around on a cowboy hat and their underwear drinking.
That's all they'd celebrate America Day with stars and stripes
(09:49):
and fireworks. Right, they'd be blowing stuff up in their
underwear and wearing a cowboy hat and just getting plastered.
Would we be bothered by that problem? Some people would?
I mean, I I.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Think that'd be funny. But at the same time, I
can understand if you're like a red blooded American being like, do.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
You think that's what America is?
Speaker 1 (10:06):
Well, I'm sure there's people in Ireland there just like
you think that's what I being Irish is, And you know,
I think there's a little bit of room of you know, like, yeah,
it kind of looks kind of stupid if you're full
full blown Irish. We we die an entire river in
Chicago green like for what?
Speaker 2 (10:21):
Yeah, did they love green over there? Like what's the
green thing?
Speaker 1 (10:24):
Well, green is in the is a shamrock, and the
green rolling hills and there's green in the flag and
all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 2 (10:31):
I don't know, if you.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Want to call in you got some Irish comments on
here one way or the other. Four oh two five
five eight to eleven ten four oh two five five
eight eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten.
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Kfab Emery Sunger on News Radio eleven ten kfab and beer.
Speaker 1 (10:48):
I just feel like there's a little bit more to
the Irish culture than that. But hey, on St. Patty's Day,
nobody cares. It's all about the green beer baby. She
lives on a phone line of four h two five five,
eight eleven ten. Wanting to talk to us today.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
What's up?
Speaker 4 (10:58):
She loa, Oh hi, you were talking. I'm not Saint
Patrick Stan stuff and I love it. I'm Irish sixty
five percent. I go to a little town in Iowa
called Imma Jean. They party. The population is tiny and
like quadruples. I don't drink a ton and I definitely
don't drink beer. But it's corn beef and.
Speaker 2 (11:19):
Cabbage, oh cornby that's right.
Speaker 4 (11:21):
Yeah, yeah, And people play games and have a parade
and respect to elderly and we have a wonderful time
and play games and stuff. So I love it. It's
what buck me is that people who drink and think
that that's what it's about.
Speaker 2 (11:34):
Yeah, it's kind of like the whole thing.
Speaker 1 (11:36):
And I've equated this to a lot of different holidays, right,
It's like Christmas now is about the gift giving more
so than it's about like remembering, you know, the Christian
aspect of the holiday.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
You know, absolutely an independence stay too.
Speaker 1 (11:49):
Right now, it's all of a sudden about you know,
dressing in red, white and blue and blowing stuff up
instead of thinking about like what those guys went through
to make our black country. You know, so right, I'm
with you. I think I think we the plot a
little bit because of the commercialization of a lot of
this stuff.
Speaker 4 (12:02):
Sheila absolutely gotta respect Saint Patrick, and you do some
research people out there, you'll understand the deal.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
Hey, there it is.
Speaker 1 (12:09):
She'll appreciate you listening to the show and calling in
thank you. Yeah, see, there you go. That's exactly what
I'm talking about.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
Right.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
Independence is the same thing we've appropriated ourselves in a way. Now,
all of a sudden, we're just like Fords of July
close off up instead of just like, hey man, like
maybe we should watch seventeen seventy six the musical, or
you know, read David mccollough's great book seventeen seventy six
or I don't know.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
But that's a lot less fun.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (12:36):
I'm not saying we shouldn't do it. I'm just saying
that we you know, we forget why that's a thing.
Weget why we're allowed to do that.
Speaker 2 (12:42):
Is, you know, there's all.
Speaker 1 (12:43):
The whole point is if we celebrate our independence from
those cronies in the United Kingdom that we just kind
of also happen to be celebrating today. Anyway. It's not
the exact same people, but it's close enough to the
same people. Jay's on our phone line of four h
two five, five, eight eleven ten.
Speaker 4 (12:59):
What's up?
Speaker 3 (12:59):
Jay?
Speaker 5 (13:00):
Hey, what's up?
Speaker 2 (13:03):
I'm just taking it out. Yeah, what's going on with you?
Speaker 5 (13:06):
Well, I am irish. I won't run away from that,
but I won't let you folks know. You both need
to go back to English school. If I got a
dollar for every time you said you know or you like,
I'd be a rich man. Think about that one.
Speaker 2 (13:23):
Uh what like do you mean? You know? Like what
you like? What are you talking about?
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
Jay?
Speaker 3 (13:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (13:29):
What there you go?
Speaker 5 (13:31):
I just made three bucks?
Speaker 1 (13:34):
Who's paying you this money? How do we get a cut?
I mean I could just say that the whole entire
show for making money.
Speaker 5 (13:39):
Well, no, you're not making money. You're just embarrassing yourself.
An English language is not you know? And I like
or like this English language is a sentence you need
to use.
Speaker 2 (13:51):
Jay.
Speaker 1 (13:52):
I mean, I I appreciate the critique here, But Jay,
who's getting paid to talk for a living? I mean
I might, I might be embarrassing myself, but I'm stilletting
hate to talk. You're not getting paid at all, except
when I say liking you know, apparently.
Speaker 5 (14:06):
All right, you keep saying that and I'll keep making money.
How's that sound?
Speaker 1 (14:09):
I mean, I still want to know where this is
coming from. Is this some sort of leprechaun like a
like a put of gold?
Speaker 2 (14:15):
No?
Speaker 5 (14:15):
No, this this is where today's kids. And I put
you guys in that group. They do not know how
to speak the English language. And we all have saying
that we get caught up on. Everybody is getting caught
up on, you know, and like you like like like
and it's just you know.
Speaker 1 (14:36):
I say, it's just Jay, It's just you know, it's
just like we're like like like Jay, like we're just talking.
Speaker 2 (14:42):
You know, it's just like talking.
Speaker 5 (14:44):
You know, it's a disease.
Speaker 2 (14:45):
It's not a disease.
Speaker 1 (14:46):
Jay, Jay, Jay, I appreciate the call, and I'm glad
that you're you're poking fun and you're contiquing us, and
you felt strongly enough about this call in. But it's
really not that deep, man. It's we're just sitting here.
We're just chatting like people chat at the bar. We're
sitting here chatting like people do at the dinner table.
We don't have to be like chief orators or something
like Billy Graham or Abraham Lincoln to get our points across.
Speaker 6 (15:07):
You know that.
Speaker 2 (15:12):
It's too much, too all right, Well I haven't said.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
That on the air.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
All right, Bye, Jay, I have a little fun.
Speaker 1 (15:20):
JAG's lighting up. I figured like I talk a lot
for a living. I talked for six hours on the
radio every single day. I have tics. You have ticks.
We all have tics. Everybody has a tick. I just
happen to have a lot more ticks. I think that
are more noticeable than people. You know why, because you
hear me way more than you hear anyone else every
single day, probably except maybe the people you're living with.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
We all have filler words, you know, when when you're
searching for the thing you want to say next.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Jay said uh or like four times in that last sentence. Yeah, Jay,
any one's gonna call you out. Jay Gee whiz man gee,
whizz Gee whiz j Man, Jay, come on, Jay, give
it the brag. A though he is Irish, maybe he's
just peeved that, you know, we're celebrating Saint Patrick's day
like this. Hey, we'll keep taking calls, We'll keep thinking
about you, and we love talking to you, even if
(16:08):
we do have some verbal ticks. And if you want
to call in and be a part of the fun today,
four h two five five eight eleven ten is the number.
Four h two five five eight to eleven ten. We'll
come back talk to you next on news radio eleven ten.
Kfab Emery Sunger. He's just start a four line that
we got the phone lines open if you want to
call in. Four two five to five to eleven ten. Hey, zeus,
welcome back to the show.
Speaker 2 (16:28):
Brother. What's going on?
Speaker 3 (16:30):
How are you doing? My friend?
Speaker 6 (16:32):
I can't complain a great show today.
Speaker 2 (16:34):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
One thing, you know, I agree with you on the
commercialization of everything from Christmas Eastern all of the same
with Saint Pats. If you go back and look that
Saint Pats wasn't even Irish.
Speaker 5 (16:47):
He was kidnapped and.
Speaker 3 (16:50):
Sold into slavery and Ireland, and then he escaped Ireland
and when made it to a monastery in England and
then went from there he was he then committed his
life to introducing Christianity to that area, those areas in Scotland,
I mean in Ireland. And you know, if you knew
that the shamrock, the way he did that as part
(17:12):
of his ministry. He introduced it by the shamrock where
one represented God, the other one represented Jesus Christ and
the other one represented the Holy Spirit. And that's the
way he That was one of the ways that he
introduced Christianity to those in that area in Ireland.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (17:29):
Now, see, this is the history that nobody talks about
because they're just like, hey, zus, that was way too
long for you to explain it to me.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Just handing my green beer. That's all anybody cares about, now, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3 (17:39):
I know. And that's we got to remember the spirituality
to it. The Godly God used Saint Patrick to breathe.
Even though there was others that brought Christianity to Ireland,
people remembered him the most that he gave his life
to introduce Christianity to the Irish and so there and
people forget that too. Is that drinking was even prohibited
(18:03):
during Saint pat and then it got reintroduced. So yeah,
the thing that we got to remember, we got if
we forget these things that on how God uses people
and how God bring us brings Christianity to those that
may have not heard about the Word of God, about Jesus,
about the Holy Spirit, and about the Three as one. Yeah,
(18:27):
and you know, so there's my take. Open the can
of worms. I'll let you go at it from there.
Speaker 1 (18:33):
Hey man, thanks for that. Thanks for calling us Jesus
as always.
Speaker 3 (18:38):
You take care you guys, have a great day and
stay safe.
Speaker 2 (18:41):
Yeah, you too, good stuff.
Speaker 1 (18:42):
I'll talk a little bit more about that because I
got the kind of a bullet point list of the
history of Saint Patrick's day. I'm going to get tw
in a second, but first I got to get the
Beth on the phone line. Beth, welcome to the show.
Speaker 2 (18:53):
I hear you. You have some comments on Matt and
I's vernacular.
Speaker 6 (18:57):
Yeah, by the way, I did not know that information
on the last caller.
Speaker 2 (19:04):
You know what I mean.
Speaker 6 (19:05):
Yeah, it was like I didn't know about that.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
Yeah, you know, no, nobody, nobody knows what they don't
know until somebody tells them.
Speaker 2 (19:15):
Beth.
Speaker 6 (19:15):
You know, you know, you're talking to people that know.
They're usually people that know. You know. I mean, it's
like I know, you know when I talk to you,
you know what I mean, there's nothing really to say
because we.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Know I don't know Beth, like you know, like, yeah, right.
Speaker 6 (19:33):
It's great. I don't know why anybody would be upset
about knowing.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
Uh fair enough, fair enough, Beth. So uh so do
you like that we talk like that? Or do you
not like that we talked like that?
Speaker 6 (19:45):
Well, I gotta say I talk like that because I'll
do that too. Not all the time, but sometimes I
go there and I go, you know what I mean,
don't you know zactly what I mean?
Speaker 5 (19:55):
Like I saw that and.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
I knew that, so I do.
Speaker 2 (20:03):
Yeah, yeah, I feel the same way I feel. I
definitely feel the same way back.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Hey, But thanks for calling us, because it's it's important
to note that it's not just a Matt and I thing.
It's something that you know, can can maybe get everybody,
you know. So I appreciate you knowing that we know
and you know, and like I appreciate that you called
us to.
Speaker 6 (20:21):
Let us know that, you know, Like, I'm so happy
about knowing.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Thanks, Beth, have a good day.
Speaker 2 (20:32):
I'm glad she held out. I wasn't sure she was
gonna but she she did. Good there, that was good.
Speaker 1 (20:37):
Travis is on our phone line of four of two, five, five,
eight elevens and welcome in, Travis.
Speaker 2 (20:40):
What's going on?
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Hey? How are you doing?
Speaker 2 (20:43):
I cannot complain, Travis, how are you?
Speaker 4 (20:45):
You know?
Speaker 5 (20:45):
I'm doing? Okaysky drinking has drinking has a.
Speaker 3 (20:48):
Lot to do with the uh prove meaning of St.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Patrick's day? And and uh it's a little unknown fact
that God created alcohol to keep the Irish.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
From ruling the world.
Speaker 2 (21:03):
Is that right?
Speaker 4 (21:04):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (21:04):
You know that's you know.
Speaker 5 (21:09):
You knew that, didn't you.
Speaker 1 (21:13):
I mean, I believe it now. I mean, now that
I have been told, I have no choice but to
believe it.
Speaker 2 (21:19):
I think. I think that's how that works.
Speaker 1 (21:20):
Right, You say something, It's just it's just factual, you know,
somebody somebody says yeah, you know, you know yeah, like
for sure, you know, like those words are going to
be the new A like Canadians say A and on
our show, just everybody's going to start saying that because
now we've been called out because we say that.
Speaker 4 (21:40):
And it was ridiculous, you know.
Speaker 2 (21:47):
I guess that's just like your opinion. Man, you know, well,
you know it is what it is. You know, it
is what it is thanks to the contract. I appreciate
the call.
Speaker 5 (21:59):
That's fair.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
If you can't laugh at yourself, I gotta tell you.
I think I say you know as an appendage to
a lot of stuff, though, just to cuse somebody else
to talk. It's it's easier for you and me when
we look at each other because then they're like visual
cues that it's your turn. Yeah, when you're talking to
somebody on the phone or you can't hear me, and
(22:22):
I just kind of even some rhetorically, like it's not
even I'm not even talking to anybody in particular.
Speaker 2 (22:28):
I'm just speaking rhetorically.
Speaker 1 (22:29):
I'll say that so you can kind of think of
like what your response would be if I said that.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
But you know, you know, yeah, you know, you know,
I know what you mean, you know, And that's actually
really thoughtful. I think you're right about that. You say
you know, because you're trying to give someone a verbal
cue to join in your turns. You say something and
you say you know, I mean, you could probably break
out the old thesaurus and try to find a couple
more to throw in there, just for Jay's you know, yeah,
(22:56):
mental health.
Speaker 1 (22:56):
Yeah, I could do that. I could do that if
I cared. I'm not so sure i'd do though, I
haven't decided yet. Okay, So here it is nineteen seventy.
What is nineteen seventy in Why is that significant to
Saint Patrick's Day? Nineteen seventy Shoot.
Speaker 2 (23:16):
That was the first year they died the River Green.
Speaker 1 (23:22):
No, until nineteen seventy, Saint Patrick's Day was a dry holiday,
no alcohol allowed. What yeah, I mean the Irish what
do you mean? It was classified as a religious holiday.
The Irish prohibited drinking on religious holidays.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
So in Ireland you couldn't. You couldn't well, I think
even in America. I think in America too.
Speaker 1 (23:46):
But once it was lifted as a national it was
kind of reclassified as a national festival in nineteen seventy,
which I think is probably a little bit more accurate
to the way that we're celebrating it now.
Speaker 2 (23:55):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:56):
So if that's the case that allowed for themercialization to
get in, it was the beer companies like Gainness jumped
in and said, Yo, you know what would be great
is if you like drink Irish beer. And then everybody
wanted to like get in on the act. A lot
of you know, non Irish beers pretend to be Irish
for the day. And then the wearing of green this
drink something. That stuff didn't happen until later. Not to
(24:20):
say that, you know a few generations ago you didn't
wear green on this day. But you go back and
watch like nineteen eighties NBA games, just look at what
people are wearing.
Speaker 2 (24:27):
Even in the nineteen.
Speaker 1 (24:28):
Eighties, there's not a lot of like team gear that
people are wearing. It's not until you get into the
nineties and all of a sudden you start seeing all
this cool team gear getting kind of sold. You know
that stuff was limited back in the seventies and eighties.
Now you know, it's just like commercialize everything. Well, I
think that's what happened. That same kind of thing happened,
turning stuff green and trying to capitalize on that momentum
(24:50):
in the eighties and nineties, and Saint Patrick's Day has
since become synonymous with the beer, the celebrations, pub cross,
Irish whiskey, all that stuff, and has absolutely nothing to
do with religion. If you could you go down to
that Saint Patrick's Day parade, I would bet nine out
of ten people, nine out of every ten people that
you pull would say that they would observe this as
(25:12):
a drinking holiday or a celebratory holiday, not something that
has a religious background. Are we okay with that? I mean,
it's not it's not my it's not my ship to sail.
I suppose I just don't care that much. I'm more
passionate about Groundhog Day than I am this because this
is literally just day drinking, you know, a groundhog Day.
(25:32):
We pester wrote it before we allow ourselves to day
drink while wearing top hats and both ties.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
America's kind of a silly place, but that's what I
like about it.
Speaker 1 (25:41):
It's a weird place, man, It's weird. And wait until
we get to Sink of Demyo. We could have this
entire conversation about that too, because that's the exact same thing.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
But now that is a holiday that has definitely been
appropriated into you know, like that, it.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Doesn't even hold the same significance as we think it holds.
You can quiz anybody in America about what the significance
of Cinco de Mayo is doesn't it have something? It's
celebrating your lost loved ones. I thought, Okay, now see,
I don't think that's right. But I'll look it up
and I'll tell you what it is when we come back,
just so we have a couple of months to, you know,
prepare ourselves for that. On news Radio eleven to ten
(26:18):
Kfab and Maurice Sung, I mean, what's an American holiday anyway?
Groundhog Day is, although I think it was one of
the stupider ideas in US history. Although I do think
that it was inspired by something else from somewhere else.
The Independence Day certainly is an American holiday. I thinks
givvings an American holiday. That's a good one. We haven't
we haven't really ruined that one yet, And maybe that's
(26:40):
why why people don't talk about it the same way
as maybe they once did, because it doesn't revel in
in the like Halloween gets a lot more hype because
of the commercialization. Well, anyway, sink of Demayo, what do
you think of you?
Speaker 2 (26:52):
You? What did you say? You thought it was? Matt?
I was just thinking that I remember that Cinco Demayo
is a holiday that is built around remembering our.
Speaker 1 (27:03):
Lost loved ones. Okay, you are wrong. Cool, here is
the answer. What I would think is it's Mexican Independence Day.
Speaker 2 (27:11):
Right.
Speaker 1 (27:12):
A lot of people are like, assume that's like Mexico's
Fourth of July, if you will. Sinco to Mayo actually
stands for the fifth of May exactly, so it makes
it like people just kind of assume that that correlates, right,
doesn't sink of to Mayo celebrates Mexico's victory over France
and the Battle of Puebla on the fifth of May
of eighteen sixty two during the Franco Mexican War. It
(27:33):
is not Mexico's Independence Day. They celebrate their own independence
day on September sixteenth.
Speaker 2 (27:39):
Every year.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
September sixteenth, that's Mexico's Independence Day. We're not even close.
It's not even close anyway, Mexico. Here's the history of that,
and I'm sure we'll have to revisit this when everybody
just wants to order Margarite's. Mexico was in financial trouble
and big thanks to artificial intelligence for helping me sort
this out. They'd stopped repaying their debts to European countries.
(28:02):
Which that sounds like a bad idea although, and that
what the United States is doing when they get further
and further into the national deaths, it's like, yeah, we're
not going to pay some of that. Well, France, who
was France's leader in eighteen sixty one, Napoleon the Third,
the third, huh Yeah, and he invaded trying to get
a North American empire for the French. But on May fifth,
eighteen sixty two, the Mexican army, led by General Ignacio
(28:25):
Zaragoza defeated the French forces in the Battle of Puebla.
I had no idea. So Napoleon was just going after everybody. Yeah,
it's a different Napoleon, but yeah, oh he was so
Napoleon Bonaparte was the first.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, you got to go back a couple of a
few decades. He was just China. Yeah, he was living
in his and his father's fall shadow grandfathers. But in yes,
the shadow was smaller than usual and yeah it's small
and very high. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
Yeah, so it wasn't It didn't end the war, but
it was kind of that moment. And there are a
couple of moments like that where the United States or
the Continental Army in the United States Revolution beat the
big bad British, but that was kind of the same.
Speaker 2 (29:04):
It was the same idea.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Right, the Mexican army should not have had any chance
against the French army, and they did, and they ended
up winning a very important, an important battle. Even tho
if it didn't win the war, it boosted their morale
and symbolized the resistance against European domination. But in Mexico
it's celebrated in only Puebla with parades, re enactments, and festivals.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
But it's not a major national holiday. They just do
not care.
Speaker 1 (29:31):
In the United States, it has evolved into a celebration
of Mexican American culture, featuring food, music, marguerite is and beer.
Most of Mexico doesn't even look at this as a holiday.
Only Puebla does. Can you believe this September sixteenth is
the day they celebrate this stuff. But it was a
reason to party. So we took it. We took it
and we americanized it. It is ridiculous, It's insane.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
What are we doing here? You know, we could do
this more.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
We could just do it. We could make our own
holiday for anything. I say, we need more, not less. Okay,
So so what's what's April's holiday? We talked about this
on Lee Perics today. What you know what April is?
But I don't want to say I don't participate in it.
But the twentieth of April is what people? Oh yeah, no, no,
not that I can't really do anything out there.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
I can't do. They don't think Satan Snoop Dogg? Is
is it the martyr of Willie Nelson? Oh yeah, he's
not dead. He's just he's just really zoned out.
Speaker 1 (30:32):
He's in a corner by himself, but not because he
needs help. He's just take it out, you know. Oh
I've been everywhere?
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Man? Am I right? Yeah? Wow? Maybe there's something in Canada?
Why don't we give Canada day? What happened in Canada?
I don't think now is the right time. Maybe now
is the right time. I don't think now is the
right time.
Speaker 1 (30:48):
S up and no, no, I think I think now
is the wrong time. I don't think they're interested, and
I'm frankly not interested either. We we gotta we gotta
do a couple other things before we start appropriating Candians.
All of a sudden, we played we won the Stanley
Cup every year for like the last thirty two years.
I think that's good enough for the time being. More
on the Way on news Radio eleventh in KFAB
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