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February 10, 2025 • 92 mins
Super Bowl | Taylor Swift | Fed Worker Buyouts
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Please, I didn't mean to leave parts of it out.
I didn't mean to do it. I'm so sorry. I'm
just trying to do my job. I'm just a wee lad.
I don't know what I don't know what you want
from me.

Speaker 2 (00:13):
By the way, on Friday night I mentioned I didn't
get a chance to mention this, but Friday night, Los Angeles,
California won three straight contests to finish out the week. Wow,
like a person from LA stations won three times in
a row.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
Good for them.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
I don't want to say anything bad because they've been
through so much this last six weeks. But there's got
to be something fishy going on there. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
I want a.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Winner, can I can? I threaten you with a purple nurples?
See if that does numbers for us? Nope, come on,
I got a lawyer, now bring it on. Oh is
that right?

Speaker 1 (00:54):
You want to go to court? No, I'm not going
to actually give you one.

Speaker 2 (00:56):
But they usually when we put something on the line
that you know you have to sweat through, it's uh,
we get a winter like right away. It's happened twice.
How about we joust like on horses?

Speaker 1 (01:07):
Yeah? Why how about we joust. You ain't too scared now,
you and you don't want to joust. He's scared. What
are we jousting for? How is that gonna get us
a winner? I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
You just want to joust me, just to just to
beat me in joust.

Speaker 1 (01:23):
You know that you know that old movie The Cable
Guy and they go to that place, you know the
place they go to, which is like, uh, is that
Jim Carrey. It's like, yeah, it's it's like the It's
like the Dixie Stampede, but for uh, but for like Larper's.
You know, nobody knows what I'm talking about, but but
I'm absolutely correct.

Speaker 2 (01:40):
The Dixie Stampede, like the Dolly parton, Dixie stampaud and Bryanson, Missouri.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
That's right, the Dixie Stampede for LARPers. I'm so dead
on with this comparison. Only nobody knows what.

Speaker 2 (01:49):
I'm talking about. You're like thinking of your head. Man,
I'm nailing this analogy. And I mean I was at
Dixie Stampede like a year ago and I'm still kind
of like what I think, it's just the stampede. What
is a What is a lawyer or a LARPer. No,
it's the Dixie Stampede. No, it's no, it's a Dixie stampede.

Speaker 1 (02:06):
That it's just a stampede. Now, what is a LARPer?
A LARPer? Okay, live action role player, somebody who's their life,
their life is a.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Game, basically it is. You're right, it's just the stampede. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (02:20):
See. Anyways, I think we should go to one of
those things that they went to in that movie, The
Cable Guy, and we should we should joust it out.

Speaker 2 (02:27):
What are we jousting for? You haven't said. You haven't
said we're jousting. The reason I was I was giving
you a non threatening threat is because every time I've
threatened you on the air, even though it's not really
a threat, because we both know that I'm not gonna
do anything to you.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
But somebody wins.

Speaker 2 (02:46):
And I'm just trying to like get good juju on
the show and get a winner, because it's been a
few weeks since, you know, our station at all has
won this joust.

Speaker 1 (02:57):
Maybe that'll get us a winner. How is that gonna
help a good joust? What do you what do you like?
What are you talking about? I've got a horse, you
don't have a horse. I've got a horse, a lawyer,
a long pole that's sharp at the end. I'm still
working on my suit of armor.

Speaker 2 (03:14):
Yeah, yeah, I bet you are. Sean emails in and
says it's called Medieval Times. Bud, there it is. Thank you, Sean, Bud,
thank you Bud guy FRIENDO. I'm not your friend the buddy.
There's a South Park reference medieval Times? But Sean tell
me did I not nail that reference?

Speaker 1 (03:31):
I don't know. I'm asking Sean because he knows. Well,
it's for a lark person. It's like the Vampede for
lart person. You know it is.

Speaker 2 (03:41):
They do competitions in the Stampede, right, and that's funny
at all. But it's uh, you know, the the idea
of how do we get it? Why are we talking
about it?

Speaker 1 (03:52):
It's me.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
I always do this. I take you to the weirdest places.
Have you gone to Medieval Times? Have you ever been there?

Speaker 1 (03:58):
No? I've been the two of them. You have. I have.
So you've been to the Stampede and Medieval Time.

Speaker 2 (04:03):
I have.

Speaker 1 (04:04):
So you are uniquely qualified to tell me that. I
know that's what you were talking about when you said LARPers. Yeah,
Now I get it live action role playing. Yeah, you know,
they commit their whole lives to playing these characters that
they normally would just play on a board game.

Speaker 2 (04:16):
Yeah no, And yeah, they actually do the jazz sing
and whatnot. It's pretty fast. It's a pretty fun show,
you know, and you eat your meal like you're in
medieval times.

Speaker 1 (04:25):
Be fun.

Speaker 2 (04:25):
It was fun. I have a I have a mug
that I got from one in New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (04:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (04:31):
I don't know if it's still there or not. I
don't know how much these places get health inspections. Oh
you know, I mean, I mean has served a lot
of food, and there's there's horse poop. There's a lot
of horses and yeah, you know, I can't imagine the
arena is all that clean and everybody's eating with their hands.

Speaker 3 (04:53):
You know.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
It's like just I like it. I had no problem
with it. But I can see, you know.

Speaker 2 (05:00):
Somebody who's a little bit a little bit sketch on
cleanliness might be like, I'm not sure that's the place
for me.

Speaker 1 (05:08):
Hm.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Usually, usually I like to watch my horse stuff in
my jousting while I'm not eating finger food thirty feet
away from where it's happening.

Speaker 1 (05:19):
Yeah, you know, I could see that, right. You know,
you don't want to catch you know, you never know. Yeah,
so like the character Monk from the TV show, he
would not be No, he was.

Speaker 2 (05:28):
He was kind of a germophobe, he remember correctly. Yeah,
Sean says, I'm not your guy buddy. Well I'm not
your buddy pal, I'm not your guy friend.

Speaker 3 (05:39):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:39):
That's good, that's good, good stuff.

Speaker 1 (05:42):
Anyway.

Speaker 2 (05:42):
Three twelve, I wanted to just give you an update
on this. A federal judge today extended the temporary restraining
order which blocks these buyouts for the government employees. Man,
if I gave you a chance to get paid for
eight months and you had to just leave the job
that you were doing, and you didn't know if you
were being very productive anyway, is that not like a gift,
like just to here, go find another job and I'll

(06:03):
pay you for eight months while you do it.

Speaker 1 (06:05):
I'm all in, let's do it. Can we do that today?
Can we get that signed and sealed today? I will
spend the next seven months doing nothing.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
I don't think that's uh No, What I meant was,
you know, if you were doing a job that you
weren't needed for, like like it's just kind of a
job that you think that, hey, if they decided to
like just chop a bunch of heads at the corporate level,
you know, you'd probably be one of them. And they're
offering you an eight month buyout instead, because you know,
do is going to cut all these jobs at some
point anyway, They're going to figure it out.

Speaker 1 (06:31):
Yeah, what a buyout? Like like eight months? If you
think about that, nobody it's eight months? What a deal? Right?
Still everybody squawking, they're crying, they're crying and their milk
and then their cheerios, like, give me a break.

Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, I could you ask you could work in a month?
Do you get another job in less than a month? Easily,
you would think, because there are jobs out there, and
then you'd be making double pay essentially for the next
seven months. Right, You're making money for a job you're
not even at anymore, and you're doing the government a
favor for their eyes that you're not gonna be there
after that, and they're doing you a favor by paying

(07:04):
you to do nothing, and you they were gonna make
you come back to the office, you know, like you
you don't even do anything.

Speaker 1 (07:11):
The audacity, the audacity that you have to do your
job at the office. Oh that's so awful.

Speaker 2 (07:17):
And instead of going back, you could just accept my
buyout offer and get paid for eight months, never come back.
I never have to hear from you or see you again.
You get the money and we get to be more efficient.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
These poor federal employees that sit around in their pajamas
all day and do nothing collect a paycheck.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Oh what a horrible life. What if I took this?
Is this judge stopping me from getting my checks? Do
I have to still work for the government for now
while this thing is on a stay. It's Judge Georgio Toole,
by the way, and he says he's taking the matter
under advisement, but has no timeline on how he's gonna
make a decision. And again, this is over two million

(07:53):
federal civilian employees that were offered buyouts, and they were
hoping ten to twenty percent of them would just take
the buy out. It sounds like forty thousand people are
like yeah, already there's forty thousand plus people that were
just like, yes, I would take that.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
You're right, I do nothing, this makes sense.

Speaker 2 (08:10):
I want that, or I'm close to retirement, like please
give me my eight months now again, you have to
think about, you know, we're returning to work or being
at the office and all that stuff, and do you
really want to play hardball or do you want to say, hey,
you know, I'll take that eight months pay. I still
think that it's not a bad deal that's being offered
to these people. But if I wanted to take that deal,

(08:31):
is Judge George O'Toole gonna be tooling around with my
checkbook by not letting me take this buy out because
he doesn't know how legal it is. We'll get to work, George,
Like I'm sitting here, I'm waiting on my money, right,
I'm sitting here in my pajamas. I don't want to
go back to work, and they're gonna make me if
you don't let me take this buy out.

Speaker 1 (08:50):
I poured a little kolula on my coffee this morning.
I'm just sitting there staring at my email. Nothing's happening.
Get to work, George.

Speaker 2 (08:57):
The taxpayers are paying me, and technically, Joy taxpayer is
paying you too. What are you sitting on your hands for?

Speaker 1 (09:03):
What if we just like suspended the government for a
month and see soft things still worked?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
You know, there was a family guy EPs, so they
did that where they disbanded the government and things went
to heck real quick.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Let's just now.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
Again, any community that Peter Griffin is a part of
is probably going to be on call for a lot
of disastrous things to happen. But I think, just kind
of generally speaking, I'm not a big fan of anarchy,
so I would not be in favor of that. I
don't have a problem paying tax money for things like

(09:37):
street repairs, police force, fire departments, government leadership to make
determinations for what's best for our city, the fact that
we can elect the people that represents us.

Speaker 1 (09:48):
I don't have a problem with any of that. You know.

Speaker 2 (09:50):
I just would like not to have to pay, you know,
upwards of thirty billion dollars in federal dollar salaries to
people who I can't really even figure out what the
heck they do, and neither can the government.

Speaker 1 (10:03):
But they're still getting paid, you know, nice.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Cushy jobs and they can work from home in their
jammis that's what I think. Anyway, We'll see, time's gonna tell,
But again, we have no we have no answer, and
we have no idea how long it's gonna take so
as soon as we find out, we will lay you know.
Three seventeen, I got more on the way coming up

(10:27):
on news radio eleven ten KFABA.

Speaker 1 (10:29):
Emory Sunger on news radio eleven ten kfab.

Speaker 2 (10:35):
Do you have to eat or drink when you're there?
Because I generally do, right, I you know, I'm one
of those who usually don't. I have afore.

Speaker 1 (10:45):
When I was at a spring game, I sprung for
something because the tickets were so cheap. I'm I'm I
don't know.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
So you so you can sit the entire football game
and not like you have the temptation to go grab
a soda or something.

Speaker 1 (10:56):
Yeah, I sure can. I don't really even find it
that difficult.

Speaker 2 (10:59):
But I don't have those awesome cups for like five bucks,
those commemorative cups. I like the cups. Yeah, so I
buy the cup with the soda in it.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's tasty.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
Alcohol sales are coming to Memorial Stadium though, hear that.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
I heard about that. How do you feel we've talked
about this? Yeah, I've kind of gone on record of
being against it, to be honest, and I'm not going
to stray from that. I don't think alcohol needs to
be everywhere in our society, even if you can make
good money on it, I think you just further underscored
my point. If the reason is, oh, well, it's for

(11:36):
the money's sake, I feel like there needs to be
a better reason than that.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
But what if the money's sake is a lot of money,
Like we're talking tens of millions of dollars, and we
can use that money for upgrades to the facilities at
the school, We can pay people more money, we can
solidify the twenty two million dollars we're allowed to use
on player dollar salary. Things can afford coaches. I don't

(12:01):
know what if you knew where that money was going.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
I think that Memorial Stadium college football is specifically here
in Nebraska. It's a family affair. It's a family game.
It's it's you see all ages of people who descend
upon that stadium and enjoy the product of the Nebraska Cornhuskers.
I think when you throw alcohol in the mix, not
like it's already not I mean, it's it's already there.

(12:25):
People are carrying in their bodies with them right like
they're they're pregame and they're they're slamming some cold ones
and then ibling into the stadium.

Speaker 2 (12:32):
I've been known to do that. Yes, I don't stumble
into the stadium, but I feel I've got a good
buzz going on out.

Speaker 1 (12:37):
Some people do. Some people are right, You're right, some
people do.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
But but the reason they do that is because they
know they can't get anyone they're in there.

Speaker 1 (12:45):
Theoretically, I just think that sometimes you have it's okay
to question things. Oh well, it's more money, Well, is
it worse off for the character of our people? Maybe
maybe money is not the only thing that matters in life.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
But what if I said, what if I told you
that money goes directly into making the football program in
Nebraska athletics more competitive on a year to year basis.

Speaker 1 (13:10):
Yeah, they can find it other ways. They're not hurting
for money. If there's one institution in this state that's
not hurting for money, it's Nebraska football. Well what if
they use that money to help Nebraska basketball though, because
they could do that too. It goes to the same
athletic department again, I you know again, here's the thing.
It'll still waiting to win one of those tournament games,

(13:32):
you know, right, And we could continue down this line,
Like my personal opinion is not going to change. Like
I'll have I'll have an alcoholic beverage on occasion, you know,
But I I don't, you know, I just don't see
the merit and putting it in such a family friendly place.
That's just my two cents. But I guess I'm a
bit of an old fogie when it comes to that.

Speaker 2 (13:51):
I'm just saying, you know, I've seen a lot of
angry people there yelling at referees and whatnot, and it
was like, yeah, I may add a little bit of
rowdiness to a few people.

Speaker 1 (13:58):
Imagine if Bopolini was a couple deep while he was
coaching the game, that guy wouldn't it just yelled, he
would have he would have balled up a fist. And
I don't something.

Speaker 2 (14:06):
I don't think the coach is going to be getting
some That's where a few decades past that being acceptable behavior.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
What's that one wrestling expression that you the wrestler guy
that used to do it, he does it sometimes in
the studio. You guys can't see it at home for
good reason, but that the wrestling the expression what you know,
the expression? What you got to figure out? The wrestler
Stone Cold Steve Austin. That's the one. Yeah, it's that guy.

(14:33):
And what he does, doesn't he do that thing?

Speaker 2 (14:34):
He drinks beer like, he opens up beers and he
smashes them together and then he guzzles them down. Yeah,
even though a lot of it just spills. But you know,
I was thinking idea different But what what? No, I
can't get you there. It's inappropriate. I was hoping you
just know what I was talking about. But in any event,
if bothalin he was a couple deep on the sideline,

(14:54):
he'd be doing that at the refs.

Speaker 1 (14:57):
Oh with his hands. Yeah, get away, maestro.

Speaker 2 (15:06):
He's showing them one of his fingers on his hands,
is what you're saying, because Stone Cold Sea Bosson would
do that as well to everyone, including the referees.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
Still there's there's still one out there. There's another one.
There's still one out there. But I'm not gonna I'm
I'm I'm exiting this conversation. What does he do?

Speaker 2 (15:25):
You can't just leave us hanging like this. Something might fall.
I can't figure it out. Your analogies are going too deep.
You've alluded to it many times on your radio show.
I feel like you know you're just you're you're egging
me on right now? The stone cold See Bossin and
bo Polini were like the same guy, what would they do?
Like they throw fingers around and they drink beer, okay,

(15:47):
and what else stomp a mudhole in a guy.

Speaker 1 (15:50):
But what I'm saying is, I don't know, you know,
give him a stone cold stunner, right, Do we really
need people who are already so worked up about huscar
football to you know, beat seven beers deep.

Speaker 2 (16:02):
I'm just saying, if it makes them enough money, I
think it makes sense.

Speaker 3 (16:07):
Now.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
The reason I brought this up wasn't to have this
you know, debate anymore. It's just, you know, a new
vendor is going to be in charge of this, and
I find it to be quite interesting. Era Mark is
the company, by the way, and they are the kind
of pedal in this sort of stadium situation, like stadium whatever,
and apparently beer wine and an expanded food menu because

(16:30):
now what is it Runza and Valentino's, Like the pizza
in the sandwich like that's basically all you had to
choose from and soda. Now all of a sudden, you
can get soda, you can get the pizza, you can
get the sandwich, but now there's going to be chicken
nuggets or strips or whatever. You'll be able to get
all sorts of other food options, and you'll have the

(16:52):
ability to have some beer and wine. I don't know,
I feel like this. And they're lowering the attendance right
Like they're making the stadium a little bit smaller for
it to be nicer, right Like they're taking as they're
doing these renovations, there will be some seating that comes out,
and that's not like you're gonna have to make that
up somehow. So yeah, maybe supply and demand with how

(17:15):
little I suppose, like how many seats just are going away,
maybe that'll price some people out, I guess, and the
prices generally will go up for the tickets. Didn't you
say something like they've grandfathered people at prices for decades.

Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yeah, but I think they're doing away with that.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
They have to write like there's no way it doesn't
support the current system. If you're still paying one hundred
and fifty dollars for season tickets at a Nebraska football game,
how right? Like that that's like less than twenty dollars
a game some years. You know, it's just and I'm
not saying that everything needs to be super duper expensive,
and I'm trying to tell people that you can't have

(17:54):
fun for a cheap amount of money. But Nebraska's athletic
department operating costs went from you know, thirty forty years
ago when some of these people season tickets started, was
a fraction of what it is now. And if we're
going to be competitive, we need the utmost.

Speaker 1 (18:11):
Quality in facilities.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
We need to be able to attract coaches and players,
and we want to make sure our fans are you know,
loud and proud, and I don't know, you got to
think about all these things from a different in variety
of standpoint. But uh, by the way, this is a
they're expecting roughly five point eight million dollars annually for
the new menu items. At least just having those menu

(18:35):
items available, that's a. That's a that's a healthy piece
of change for you know, six or seven home games.
Just throwing that, throwing that out there, three twenty eight.
You got opinions on this or anything else? Call us
four H two five five eight eleven ten, four ROH
two five five eight to eleven ten, News Radio eleven
ten KFAB Emery Sunger. How much does season tickets costs

(18:57):
if you're trying to buy new versus the people that
have just been calling them over for years and years
and years. And how are you going to kind of
stop the grandfathering of those old, you know, nineteen eighties
level prices. Steven's on the phone line, four O two,
five to five, eight to eleven, ten, Steven, you got
season tickets?

Speaker 3 (19:15):
Yeah, I've been going to Nebraska football games since my
dad got season tickets in nineteen sixty six. Oh and uh,
the season tickets just for one seat last season. This
does not include this their charges for for many chargers

(19:37):
and stuff, well, four hundred twenty dollars, which could be
an outverage of sixty dollars per game. Oh okay, so
it's a lot more than what I mentioned on the radio.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
Hearder just a few, but it wasn't that.

Speaker 2 (19:50):
But Steven, for clarification, they've kind of up, like moved
and escalated that price, right, Well, he bought them for
a lot less than that. And and when did they
start kind of escalating the price on you on that?

Speaker 3 (20:01):
I don't know. I know it's just been going up
here after year. I know that because it was. It
was probably maybe five or six dollars. I can't know
what it was, but it was very low back.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Sure, and rightly so right everything costs a lot less
money back in the day. But that's fascinating, Steven. Thanks
for clarifying that for us today. We appreciate you call
it in okay, uh yeah, yeah, okay, sixty bucks a game,
that's reasonable. Don't you think college football sixty bucks? You know,
like going to yeah Twington NFL game, especially high up.

(20:37):
I went to a Bears game once. A Bears game, right,
I don't know how many people are clamoring to go
into Soldier Field to watch the Chicago Bears play football.
I bought tickets at face value for like the second
to the last row at the very top of the
second deck, just to go to a game. It's my
first Bears game. You know how much this was. This
was a decade ago. You wonder how much it was decade.

(20:58):
I would guess one ten, one twenty. And I got
up to my seat and I was like, I look
down because you know, they were basically playing below me,
and I was just kind of like, man for two
tickets at one hundred and twenty dollars each. Uh, I'd

(21:24):
rather watch out a bar. I'd rather go like And
this isn't to say don't go to Memorial Stadium. I'm
not saying that sixty dollars a game. I would I
would do that if I loved going to watch the
Huskers play football. But I would imagine especially you know
what they're Uh, the renovation is Memorial Stadium capacity. So

(21:50):
right now for football, the capacity is roughly eighty five thousand,
five hundred or so. Okay, now eighty five thousand. They
say they're going to replace these replace ten eight to
ten thousand seats, so it'll be a ten to twelve

(22:12):
percent reduction something like that. Right, so you're going from
like eighty three eighty four thousand to like seventy four thousand.
When you lose ten percent of the seats, you're technically
going to be losing theoretically ten percent of the revenue

(22:33):
if every seat was the exact same price, if that
makes sense. If we did not change the pricing and
you lose ten thousand seats or whatever, you're just gonna
lose that ten percent, you know, Or if it's eight
thousand seats, ten percent. If it's eight thousand seats, right,
do you follow? It makes sense? Okay, So how do

(22:55):
you make that money up?

Speaker 1 (22:57):
Now?

Speaker 2 (22:57):
They could do it with a bunch of different ways, and
o'bvi bes this is going to be, you know, completed
by they hope, the twenty twenty sixth season, so we'll
have at least another season with this stadium the way
that it is now. But I have to imagine that
that's going to increase season tickets and it will even

(23:21):
just losing like eight to ten thousand seats is going
to price some people out of going to games.

Speaker 1 (23:27):
How do you feel about that?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
How do you how do you feel about You know
it used to cost I mean, like he said, back
in the sixties, when you had the ability to pay
for tickets for five to ten dollars a piece and
go to every Husker game and fill it up. Well, now,
you know that's one thing. Even just ten fifteen years ago,

(23:55):
you could probably go in a family of four could
get tickets for one hundred hundred and fifty bucks.

Speaker 1 (24:02):
You know, that doesn't count concessions or parking or anything.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
But now with parking costing as much as it does,
if you park yourself there, which by the way. I
try not to. I try to carpool with people who
are already going over. If you're parking and then you're
tailgating whatever the food is, right like, you have that
going on, whether your season takeholder or not, then you're

(24:25):
going to let's say, at what is it called before kickoff,
concessions are going to cost more money. You have the
ability to buy a bunch of new stuff, including beer
and wine. So I don't think that's a big deal.
But when you lose ten thousand seats, you're already see

(24:46):
in that price that was six to ten dollars probably
back in the sixties go up to sixty dollars now
it's still probably below average for what's available and then
you're going to be taking away some of that inventory
that I mean you're I think if you could alleviate
the price of the actual game, right like, if like

(25:10):
we could get the ticket prices down to fifty sixty
bucks for everybody, even with the reduction of seats, plus
adding alcohol sales to alleviate that price, but we don't
price anybody out of the stadium basically essentially because we're
losing seats. Would you be in support of that? Would
that be a good use of that money to not

(25:30):
keep make the ticket prices continue to skyrocket. It's a
bit of a different conversation, right You talk about family
friendly atmosphere and you want Memorial Student to have that
family feel still, But if I got a family of
four and all of a sudden, it's over one hundred
dollars a ticket just to get in the door, I'm
going to be spending four hundred to five hundred dollars
just to get in the door. Let alone park, let alone, eat,

(25:53):
let alone, drink, Let alone have fun in the in
the parking lots ahead of the game. I mean, think
about how much which money that is? Do you have
to do all the things included with going to a game?
Or can you just go to a game enjoy it.
I mean, I guess it depends on what you want
your family to do. Again, I'm a terrible person ask
because it's really just me and a buddy or me

(26:16):
and my wife. You know, I'm usually buying two tickets
at a time, and you know, depending on the game,
you could be pretty frugal doing it that way. But
if I got a family of four and my kids
are gonna want to eat my kids are gonna want drinks.
I may want a beverage, you know, like how about
this ice cream? You know, like all that stuff is
you know, like you know, it's more money.

Speaker 1 (26:37):
Take your maroon Chevy astro van. Park it four miles
from the stadium. Oh boy, bust open a couple of
cold cans of pork and beans. Oh gosh, pre game
for a little bit in the car, Oh boy. Then
walk yourself to the stadium, pay for the tickets, enjoy
the game, walk back there. You only paid for the
price of admission, that's all.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
And you got like fifteen thousand steps in on your
four mile walk to the stadium, and you only had
to go the backroom six times because of your pork
and beans cans.

Speaker 1 (27:08):
You might need a tetanus shot, but that's besides the point.

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Mitch is on a phone line of four or two, five,
five eight Before I throw up, Mitch, I appreciate you
for being a part of the show today.

Speaker 1 (27:18):
What's on your mind?

Speaker 4 (27:20):
Excuse me? The price of the game to go see
the Super Bowl was over twenty five hundred dollars, I believe, Yeah,
the price of twenty seven hundred dollars. The very first
super Bowl was twelve dollars a ticket.

Speaker 1 (27:37):
Okay, Yeah, that's how crazy is that?

Speaker 4 (27:40):
That's pretty durned crazy and so and it didn't go
up until about the late seventies. It finally started going
up higher and higher and higher. But I mean, I
googled that and I checked it. I went, wow, the
first super Bowl and then this one, and how much
this tickets were? I can't for it?

Speaker 1 (28:00):
Well, me neither.

Speaker 2 (28:01):
And you want to know something else there, Mitch, people
are still going, So they're they're pricing people like you
and me out that generally would like to see the
game potentially, and instead it's all the rich socialites and
social media influencers or comp tickets. They do give away
a lot of those tickets to people who've won them
in various contests and stuff. So it's a weird business

(28:23):
opportunity for them, and they are okay capitalizing that, and
and people like you and me will just never be
able to dream of going to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
I guess I just stay at home, watch TV, people warm,
playing whiskey, and I'm doing good.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yes there, I Mitch. I appreciate you calling in, buddy,
thanks for listening to our show.

Speaker 4 (28:41):
I enjoyed your show.

Speaker 2 (28:43):
Thanks, that means a lot to me. We'll take a break,
come back five, Sorry, three forty eight, that's the time
you're on your Monday on news Radio eleven ten kfabe
guys who literally were in love with that sport more
than they liked baseball, more than they liked any other
variation of sport. They just love the off and tumble
nature of being able to, you know, be a bruisers

(29:03):
out there. And it wasn't sophisticated, it wasn't beautiful one perfect,
but man, there were some great guys. And I gotta
tell you, one of my favorite football players of all
time is a guy never saw play.

Speaker 1 (29:15):
This guy never. I mean, I'll be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (29:18):
I couldn't really tell you the kind of impact he
had other than what other people said about him. But
he's the first professional football player of all time, and
it's just so fascinating to hear about him and to
learn about him. And he's got one of the great
names of all time. Matt, do you know who the
first professional football player at least the one that the

(29:40):
you know, professional Football Hall of Fame recognizes as the
first pro ever.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
I have a lot of questions. It's a team game.
How can you be the first? Wouldn't it take eleven
he's the first one to touch the touch the grass
of the field. No, so he's the first one.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
We have actual evidence that he signed a contract to
be paid to play a football game. He was.

Speaker 1 (29:57):
He was out there, just like I was when I
was a kid. He was out They're playing a whole
football game all by himself.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
No, he was just the only one that was paid
dollars through contract. I got you, and we have they
found the paperwork. Okay, so like Canton, Ohio has the paperwork,
and it like shows that they paid this guy like
three hundred dollars or something, which is a huge sum
in eighteen ninety two when this was happening.

Speaker 1 (30:22):
Yeah, probably would have bought him like a new pair
of shoes. It probably would have paid for like a
lot of things. You know, I would have set a car,
but cars were also not readily available to a horse
and buggy.

Speaker 2 (30:33):
It probably would have bought him a house, you know,
three hundred dollars. Three hundred dollars, what is three Okay?

Speaker 1 (30:39):
How much would three hundred dollars in eighteen ninety two
be worth? Today, three three hundred dollars would be ten
thousand dollars today. It's like just showing up and getting
ten thousand dollars. You know what.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
This guy's name was, Buster McCracken. Good name, It is
a great name. I don't know how many Buster McCracken's
there have been, but it's William Walter Heffelfinger. Yeah, oh yeah,
of course, right, yeah, Heffelfinger. Pudge Heffelfinger. Pudge was his nickname.
Old Pudge is considered the first professional football player ever.

(31:24):
He signed a contract for one game to play with
the Allegheny Athletic Association Alleghini for the one game they
played against the Pittsburgh Athletic Club. And this is at
a time when these were guys so I mean, gosh,
it was crazy. Okay, never mind he it was five
hundred dollars. It wasn't three hundred dollars. Five hundred dollars,

(31:44):
So that's like seventeen thousand dollars today. They handed this
guy over, and where are they giving this money? This
is an athletic club, right, like it's we didn't even
know like how this stuff worked then. All they know
is they wanted to beat the Pittsburgh Athletic Club really badly,
and so what they ended up doing was they recruited
a guy who was an All American in college. And
this is what was happening. You'd bring in ringers. This

(32:06):
wasn't the local guys anymore. You'd bring in ringers to
try to help your team win. That was the birth
of the professional game. And baseball had been professional since
eighteen sixty nine. So you know, you talk about all
this stuff, and you know, Philadelphia isn't necessarily involved in this.
Philly eventually kind of got into it. But in western Pennsylvania,
Pittsburgh and west of Pittsburgh in Pottstown and in places

(32:29):
like that, and you know Pottsville not Pottstown, it's a
different potts City in Pennsylvania. And then like Dayton, in
a bunch of Ohio towns like Columbus, and Columbus is large,
but a lot of these other places, you know, they
just had teams that were just popping up and going
away over decades and it's so fascinating. But it never

(32:50):
would have happened without Pudge Heffelfinger becoming the first ever
professional football player in eighteen ninety two. Pudge Heffelfinger and
look up that book. It's called Pigskin. You like the
idea of reading about professional football history. Pig Skin, that's
the name of the book and it is written. I'll
get you. I'll get you that more information on that book.

(33:12):
I'll pull it up here. You're listen to the news
radio eleven ten KFAB
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