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New Jersey senator kept saying, I'mnot going anywhere. I'm not going.
Well, he gone, he gosee you later, alligator after a while,
crocodile, And for what he took, he probably should be in jail,
but you know, it is whatit is, all right. So
we finally know how many shots theshooter took. By the way, this
is something that people were estimating atbut we didn't have a specific number.
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And it wasn't until today that PennsylvaniaPolice Commissioner Christopher Paris, who we alluded
to a little bit earlier, hesaid in the last hour or so that
he believes the number is eight.Eight casings were recovered. How did it
take ten days to have this completelyconfirmed? Again, just a lack of
communication to the American public about whathappened. People were saying four, people
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were saying six. People are justsaying a handful. The number is eight.
We now have confirmation. Also,are we okay with the news outlets
harassing the parents of the shooter,Thomas Krok? Are we because that last
night, Monday night, some peoplein the news went to Bethel Park,
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Pennsylvania, and they found them exitinga grocery store and try to ask them
a bunch of questions, and allhe said was, we're going to release
a statement when our legal counsel advisesus to do so, and until then
we have no comment. We justwant to try to take care of ourselves
right now, Please just give usour space. Are we okay? Like?
Is it okay for? Is itnews outlets doing their job? Or
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is this done and bad taste?Here to be questioning, especially in some
a place like a supermarket parking lotthe parents of Thomas Crooks. I don't
think there's a way to prevent thisfrom happening in a free society. There
isn't. But is it? Isit nasty or is this just journalists doing
their job? I guess is whatI'm trying to figure out. Well,
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it's another form of paparazzi. Itis. It's exactly like that. They
wouldn't be there if it wasn't goingto help their career get clicks, and
and that's great getting clicks. Theheadline. The headline says Trump's shooter's father
returns to public life, says,we just want to try to take care
of ourselves. But if you like, pair that down and you go onto
like a news like at Google andjust search the parents of Thomas Crooks.
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This is one of the things thatpops up. And you know what,
the headline says, Trump shooters parentsspeak for first time, right, No,
yeah, I mean that's how yougot to title it, right,
Just let the audience have their imaginationrun wild while they click that article.
Then they click it and then it'stwo paragraphs and it tells them nothing more
than they already knew, and theywasted their time and we move on.
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Welcome to media today. Yeah,we're the media. Can we can we
differentiate ourselves from some of the likethis would be something I would never do.
I'm not I don't want to bethat guy. They're Okay, here's
another personal anecdote. And I'm tryingto just I tell this because this is
I'm trying to illustrate who I am. I'm on the air with you for
twenty hours a week most of thetime. I want you to know me
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the best that you can. Iwant you to feel like this is a
safe space and you can you cantrust me with whatever information you're hoping I
say, and that if you wantedto talk to me, whether it's via
email, social media or on thephone, that you feel like you can
do that with whatever ideas that youhave in your head, as long as
it's a cordial conversation. This issomething that I struggled with. I was
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the sports slash news director at avery small radio station in southeastern Iowa at
twenty three, twenty four years old, okay, And as I was doing
work one day, my boss calledme in and she's she's got a scanner
and she was always way better atlistening to the scanner than I was.
I always felt it was kind ofstrange, and I didn't really want to
do that. I know that wasdumb of me, because that was certainly
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part of my job at the time. But she said, something weird's happening
at this residence. And I knowthis residence to be where an NFL star
lived in our small town. Oh, hearly an NFL star. He was
a star player for the iowhaw Gyswas Tyler Sash. People know who he
is. He's in his twenties,still had a very brief NFL career,
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won a Super Bowl with the NewYork Giants, but had a very prolific
career at the University of Iowa andit's from this small town and she said
this is definitely where he's living whenhe's in town. And all this scanner
stuff talking about needing ambulances and stuffand that they have like a body is
at that residence and so my alertis up. Okay, I wonder what's
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going on. And about two orthree hours later, there was a press
release sent out by a very briefone, but a press really sent out
by the police department and said,Tyler Sash is we responded to a call
this morning at this residence and wedon't have specific details, but twenty seven
year old Tyler Sash was found deceasedin this residence. It died and they
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got he was doing the DJ andat because they had live music people in
this small town radio station, whichit was nice at the time because I
didn't have to interrupt like satellite programming. But he was just like, hey,
Tyler Sash is dead, Like howare we going to do this?
And what do you think I did? And again I'm telling you this because
it's difficult for me. I waslike, Man, I don't know how
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to break this news. I didn'tgo to journalism school. I don't like
talking about this kind of private stuff. I don't want to talk about this
private stuff in this small town.This guy's a hero to these people,
and you could probably guess what theheck happened to this guy. It was
very clearly not foul play, andhe was overdose. He had overdosed,
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essentially, and we had kind ofenough pieces. I didn't want to I
wasn't ever going to say that becausewe didn't have confirmation on that, but
this was going to be a sensitivething for people in this town to hear
and to talk about. And Ipanicked, and I wet my pants proverbially,
and I just said, I'm justthere's gi me some time here.
I'm trying to figure out what todo, and didn't break that news for
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another like thirty minutes to an hour. It was a dumb decision. I
should have done it right away,that's the news, but that's I can't
do that. I don't want todo that same thing with this. I
feel bad for these parents. I'mnot saying that we completely should exonerate them
and leave them completely alone. They'vebeen cooperating with the investigation of this,
But what are we ever going toexpect to get out of them by pestering
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them in a shopping center or ina parking lot of a supermarket. Do
you think they're going to give youanything? You think they're gonna actually say
anything of note? Are we goingto continue to have people following them around
until then? That's the healthy thingto do in this society. I'm just
saying there's a medium balance between tellingpeople exactly what they need to know,
which is what I failed to doin that scenario when I was a young
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professional that was technically in charge ofthe news department at this radio station in
small town, Iowa, and doingwhat these people are doing, pestering and
following around very paparazzi like knowing there'snot going to be any legitimate information that's
going to come of that except thesensational is of hey, we got your
picture, and hey we got aquote, even if it is just no
comment, and I can throw itup on a website or a social media
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post and title it first words byTrump shooter's parents, and it just it
does it sits wrong with me,and it bothers me. Maybe I'm wrong,
but That's where I'm at on it. If you've got some thoughts you
can go ahead and call in it. Four two five five eight eleven ten.
Four h two five five eight eleventen. We got more on the
way, and I got some audioto play which could fire up some conversation
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here in a second, So stickaround on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Emery sung on news Radio eleven tenKFAB. I sent Matt a couple of
things to play here, the firstof which is to Randy Winegarten. Matt,
you're a normal American person. Youknow who Randy Winingarten is. I'd
not heard that name before. Okay, So for those who aren't regularly following
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American politics, Randy Winegarden might stillslip your mind. And although you probably
are familiar with some of the stuffthat she has said or done in what
she's responsible for, but Randy Winingardenis the president of the American Federation of
Teachers. Basically, she's the leaderof the teachers in the country. I
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am about to play you something thatshe said yesterday in regards to this is
at the American Federation of Teachers Conventionopening session yesterday, and the tone basically,
I just want to it's like aminute and a half long hang with
it that you're going to probably disagreewith the way she's talking. I just
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want to use this as an illustrationabout tone in America. Not ten days
after Donald Trump suffered a gunshot woundin an attempted assassination, a situation that
killed a guy, injured a coupleof other bystanders by a twenty year old
person. And we don't know ifit's politically motivated, but we all from
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everybody on the left end a loton the right, that we need to
change the way that we talk aboutAmerican politics. Well, here is important
person left leaning, Randy Winingarten,the President of the American Federation of Teachers,
at the American Federations of Teachers Conventionopening session yesterday. The November elections
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will determine which path we take asa nation. Progress is indeed possible,
but so is the eradication of therights and freedoms we hold dear. Historians
like Timothy Snyder and Heather Cox Richardson, who studies threats to democracy and how
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fascists come to Bauer, conclude thatit is seldom a dramatic event or attack
that lives fascism in the door.The violence comes later after they are voted
in. Voting it's still our bestdefense against tyranny and fascism, and it's
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our best offense to create the betterfuture we dream of, and march for
progress is possible, but not guaranteed. When the history books are written about
this moment, let them record thatwe the people United, mobilized and voted
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down this existential threat to democracy andfreedom, that we continue the march for
progress, that we lay the foundationfor a better future, and that we
sought to create how more perfect unionprogresses possible. Cake marching, and they're
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gonna play a real cheesy song,and I cut it there because doing here
existential threat to democracy. The violencecomes later after they are voted in.
It is seldom a dramatic event orattack that lets fascism in the door.
This is the exact rhetoric that thecurrent administration said, we need to take
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steps back from saying some of thesethings. They didn't specifically say this,
but they said we need to tonethe temperature down a little bit in our
political climate. Yet Randy Weiningarden heresaid fascism. The other guys they're fascists.
Don't elect them. We voted.She's jumping up and down, and
she's very very animated, very populoustype speech here by the person who is
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the president of the American Federation ofTeachers. And this is where this is
a person that cares about education,and the way that she talks is certainly
going to make people who get offendedby being called fascists or existential threats to
democracy. Yeah, and we're supposedto believe that our teachers are going to
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be completely fair in the way thatthey speak to our children. Pretty it's
tough, man, But because I'mfair, Matt, I'm fair, right,
I am if for nothing else,I try to be as fair as
possible. Can you confirm from athird person perspective? Yeah, So I
have a Republican, a guy bythe name of George Lang. He is
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a state senator from Ohio, andhe got tabbed. He got tabbed to
be a speaker at the Trump andJD Vance rally in Middletown, Ohio.
That's where Jade Vance is from,of course, And this was yesterday as
well. And George Lang, Iguess maybe people in this region of Ohio
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or would be familiar with him becausehe's a state senator, but anybody around
the country, this is just anameless, faceless guy representing the Republican Party.
And here's what he sounded like aheadof JD Vance and Donald Trump at
this rally in Middletown, Ohio yesterday. Hi, fine, fine, we
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got time. Come on, hey. We are in the fight for the
soul of our nation. We arein a fight for our kids and our
grandkids, a fight that we cannever imagine. I believe wholeheartedly Donald Trump
and Butler County's JD. Vance arethe last chance to save our country politically.
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I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil
war to save the country. Andit will be saved. It's the greatest
experiment in the history of mankind.And if we come down to a civil
war, I'm glad we got peoplelike Schmidy and the Bikers for Trump on
our side. Needless to say,I mean, within two hours of this
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sty Senator George Lang to his twothousand followers on X said my statement below
on comments made earlier today, andit's a little screenshot, and this is
what he said. Remarks I madeearlier today at a rally in Middletown do
not accurately reflect my views. Iregret the device of remarks I made in
the excitement of the moment on stage, especially in the light of the assassination
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attempt on President Trump last week.We should all be mindful of what is
said at political events. Myself includedrandom guy representing the Republican Party, random
state senator from the state of Ohioon national television ahead of JD. Vance
and Donald Trump speaking where the entireworld is watching, and he says,
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if we lose this one, we'regoing to be in a civil war if
we want to take it back now. I don't disagree that he probably got
really hyped. He's never spoken,probably in front of a crowd like this,
and he may not ever get theopportunity once again. And George Lang's
probably I don't know, fifty sixtysomething years old. You know, this
is a is certainly a guy thatyou know, this is maybe the highest
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moment he's ever going to have inhis political career. And maybe he did,
you know, take a little youknow what down his leg and decide
he needed to really amp it upfor the Vance Trump crowd. And I'm
guessing he walked back to the curtainafter he finished up speaking in JD.
Vance and all of Trump's people andanybody else in the backs like you gotta
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apologize for that. This is theexact same thing that they're gonna You don't
think the left is gonna grab thisand run with it, And of course
they already have. They're calling forhis resignation and saying, oh, this
is a fascist you ordered over there. Look at him, Look at him.
There he is. There's what you'reelecting if you elect Trump and Vance.
That's the guy, the guy thatbasically says it'll take a civil war
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to get the country back if welose this election. This is ten days
after we said we had to bemore careful about the way we talked about
this stuff, and here we havea state senator opening up for JD.
Vans and Donald Trump saying that we'regoing to have a civil war if we
lose. So there you go,somebody from the left somebody from the right
politically, and they're dangerous rhetoric aboutviolence in America because of politics. Can
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you imagine the world do we livein? Ten days after Donald Trump took
a gunshot to the year and aman died being in the way of an
assassination attempt. We're still talking aboutit like this unbelievable. Well, if
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up the conversation that we were justhaving about the different to two different perspectives.
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We had Randy Weiningarden from the AmericanFederation of Teachers talking about fascists and
if we elect fascists, it doesn'tlook like a big event, but then
they take over, they infiltrate,they dominate, and then they go ahead
and they jump into violence afterwards.Right, And their ed's in regards to
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you know, Donald Trump and youknow, Make America Grade Again movement,
and probably Republicans in general, becausesomebody like Randy Winegarden hates Republicans, basically
saying, hey, you know,be afraid of violence because those are the
people that they're gonna come there.You're going to round up people they don't
like, and it's going to beviolent afterwards, you can't elect them.
Total feel wrongering. And then youhave another guy, George lang who's this
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random guy, he's a state senatorfrom Ohio, who said, Hey,
if we lose this election, Ibelieve it's going to be a civil war
if we're going to take this thingback. Just said that nationally TELEVI to
Trump rally in Ohio. And thisis why I am. I want to
talk about this more than anything else, because we need to hold people more
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accountable for what they say. Wehad Joe Biden and all the high fullutant
Democrats say that they need a tone, like we need to tone down the
political climate right now. And thenyou had some Republicans that say, hey,
we need unity. Donald Trump dida speech and the theme was unity.
The first fifteen twenty minutes of it. That's all we talked about was
we need to be together for thecountry. He wants to be a president
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for everyone. Yet we have factionswithin these two political parties that are making
this more about themselves than they areabout the United States of America, as
if there is no way that youcan disagree about political perspectives and survive in
this nation. And I just hateto inform these people, but for the
better part of two hundred and fortyeight years since the Declaration of Independence was
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signed by our founding fathers, wehave had person after person serve in this
government, specifically at the federal level, whether it was when the capital was
in New York or when the capitalmoved to Washington, d c. And
they have mostly belonged to a politicalideology, if not a specific political party,
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which means if you have different politicalideologies in this country, which is
healthy, or different political parties,which is also healthy. I wish there
were a couple more real, feasibleones that people wanted to be a part
of, but that generally means thatpeople can disagree. Now, we did
have a civil war in the eighteensixties over several different items, most of
which were all very politically related.It was enough of a political disaster that
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we had Southern States seceding from theUnion, which led to the fighting right
four years where Americans just killed Americansover politics. Slavery was of course at
the forefront of that. I don'twant people to act like that's not a
political issue. It's also a humaneissue. It's a humanity issue, it's
a social issue, but it's alsoa political issue based on the ramifications of
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the economy in the South at thetime. Okay, but it was a
The fight was also in Congress orthese states and their people. They were
citing more north and South than theywere with their own political party. Different
political ideologies have existed in this nation, and for a not a four year
period of civil war, and probablya decade and a half before that,
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where there was a lot of divisiveness, wasn't quite nearly as rampant because guess
what, even though they had awar over it, we didn't have social
media. So I don't know whatrandom people in Iowa and Kansas were thinking
about all this stuff until they weresending their guys to war. But I
can tell you, for the mostpart, we've done pretty good as a
nation with differing political ideologies for thelast two hundred and forty eight years.
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Yet we still have people on thevery extreme some both sides of the aisle
that continually act like it's now ornever, do or die, you win
or we fight either direction, tryingto scare people into what the future will
be if you vote for the otherguys. That's not the America I wish
to live in, and hopefully it'snot the America that we continue to live
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in after this. Everybody's got tobe on board and how careful they are.
I can't have senator, say SenatorGeorge Lang saying this stuff about civil
war in front of all these cameras, in front of all these people,
and then running on Twitter and apologizingfor it an hour later. That doesn't
do it. That doesn't do itfor me. It's no for me.
Dog, I need you to becareful about what you say when you're in
front of the cameras. I don'tcare about how excitable you might be in
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front of a large crowd. Gotto be way more careful about this stuff
because this is the kind of thingthat generates that kind of political hatred.
And it's just unfortunate that after theassassination attempt on a former president, he
put time in with his speech writersto give us a speech about unity in
this country. What five six daysago, and now we're right back at
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it. Both sides just bombs away. Guys. John's on our phone line
A four two, five, five, eight eleven ten. John, thanks
for the call today. What doyou got for me? Are you a
nice talk with the Emory? Ifyou run for president, you got my
vote. Oh, I don't wantnone of that, John, Please don't
don't wish that upon me. Iwouldn't wish that upon yet. But I'm
more of a moderate right in themiddle, and I listened to a lot
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of political talk when I'm working overthe years, and yes, you're right
about to talk a civil war.They're dreaming within what one or two days,
we won't have medicine, within threefour days, there won't be food,
they're dreaming. So nobody wants thecivil war. I gotta throw however,
though, I don't like the rhetoricthat I hear coming from the left
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over the last four or five years, very violent, and I'm I'm a
non I didn't take the job.I'm too smart for that. I knew
the m RNA JAB was a toxicand so I lost the contract with Windstream.
I wouldn't say I own my ownbusiness. I had liberals wanting to
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lock guys like me up, putme away, destroy my future, destroy
my freedom. I was on OStreet during the BLM and Keifa riat here
in Lincoln. I saw that thingfirsthand. And I honestly do think the
left is violent, and I thinkthe right is trying to defend themselves.
But personally I'm in the middle.Yeah, And that's my thing. My
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thing, John is is there's there'sThey're bad guys, bad actors on both
sides, you know what I'm saying. I honestly believe. I honestly think
there's far more time ten on theleft. I honestly do. And and
John, I don't. I don't. I don't have the numbers on that,
but I'm saying that they're like onerotten apple can can ruin the whole
bunch kind of thing, you knowwhat I'm saying. And they're going to
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use the words from this random guyin Ohio. And John, I really
appreciate the call. Thanks for listeningto us today. But you have the
uh, you have a guy likeJoe State Ohio State Senator George Lang saying
something like this, and that's goingto be used against Donald Trump. It's
going to be used against JD.Vance. It's going to be used against
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Republicans in their race for the Houseof Representatives or the Senate. It's going
to be used against people running forstate Senate and state representative spots. Depending
on which state you live in,it's going to be utilized against them.
And just because you might ideologically agreewith the things that George Lang would say,
most conservatives would, you would thinkit is not healthy to just outright
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say if we lose now, wewill be fighting a civil war to win
it back. That is a horriblething to say if you're trying to live
in a healthy society. Just becausewe lose elections doesn't mean we can't win
the next one. I understand whypeople feel the way that they do about
certain political parties. And an oldergentleman call in during the commercial break didn't
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get him on the air, andhe was talking about this America is so
far gone, we probably do needto have a fight if we lose this
election. It's like, sorry,but this guy, he's not going to
be a part of that fight.He's in his eighties, so I'm sorry.
I'm not going to necessarily be listeningto the seventy seventy five eighty eighty
five year old people that say,the young people who are going to live
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in this country for the next fortyfifty sixty years, well, we need
to fight now, otherwise we'll neverget this country back to the way it
was. How can would have happenedif your parents and grandparents told you that
when you were growing up, wouldyou have just like okay? Because it
didn't happen. So whatever issues weregoing on, the hippie movement, civil
rights movement, a very contentious timein America, were getting rid of Jim
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Crow laws, Vietnam War was goingon, there were a bunch of people
protests in that, but none ofthat was apparently important enough for us to
have a civil war in this country, was it? But all of a
sudden now it is, And arebeing told this by people who are much
much older than we are, includingGeorge Lang himself. That's not an ageous
comment. It just pardoned me inmy early thirties for saying I don't want
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to have a civil war in thiscountry over political ideaogies. I'm sorry,
I'm sure I'm going to conjure upsome more people correcting. So you can
call in at four, two,five, five, eight, eleven ten.
I'm wide open here. I'm goingnowhere for the next couple hours.
News Radio eleven ten kfab Emrie Sungeron news Radio eleven ten kfab. Jeff
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is on the phone line, andI appreciate you for holding Jeff, what's
on your mind? A little backgroundfirst, I'm eighty one years old.
Grew up in Skyler, Colfax County. It was an even Stephen County Democrat
Republican. My father was the mayor. My great grandfather served in the legislature.
So I've been active or interested inpolitics. The thing is, the
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last most important thing that's happened inmy lifetime was the revolt, the insurrection,
the destruction of our capital. Thatsums everything up. You can talk
about forgiving, forgetting whatever, whenyou have people that will go into the
Capitol destroy it and I mean todestroy and defecate and urinate, and it's
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on top of it. That's thething that boggles my mind. And if
we used to have the Dixiecrets,the Democrats used to have the Dixiecrets.
Now they have migrated to the RepublicanParty, and I think I don't know
what you call now, But they'restill dixiecrets. They are the people that
were Jim Crow people. They werethe Lynchers, they were the ku Kuks
planned people. They were they werethe dregs of society, and they still
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are the dregs of society. There'stwenty or thirty percent of them. They're
the dregs of society. And Idon't know how you solve it. Well,
I guess, Jeff, there's alot to unpack with what you just
said there. But I think whatwe're getting at here is that there are
people that are not great in theway that they think, and they're not
thinking in a modern way, anduh, it's hard to disagree with that.
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But at the same time, Idon't want to speak for people that
don't represent me, you know whatI mean, Like I if they're this
sounds stupid, Jeff, I'll justlet you go because I don't want you
to just deficit on hold and listento me like this, try to talk
through my thoughts here. But ippreciateyou calling him okay here, tell me
if I overstep a line, Matt, you're kind of my safety net here,
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okay. I Alexandria Costu Cortes,we would say is probably very left
leaning. Would that be an accuratestatement? Yeah, that's not trying to
create an argument over that, Justlike based on what you would think a
neutral person would think ideologically in thiscountry, she is very far to the
left. She's incredibly liberal and progressive. She represents a district in New York
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that is roughly ninety or so percentDemocrat most of the time. Okay,
it's somebody like Alexandria Costu Cortez isprobably a lot more normal to that group
of people that she is representing thanshe would be for somebody like me or
you, or somebody in the Midwestat all, outside of maybe the city
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of Chicago. Right, So,while we can say she's terrible, we
need to get her out of thewe need to we need to move AOC
out of the mix because she's toocrazy. We don't want her to be
a part of Congress anymore. Well, the thing is, she is representing
a very small geographical space with alot of people in it, and like
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an overwhelming majority of them are veryliberal people. She is more normal to
them than we are normal to eachother, if that makes sense. Now,
what that guy was the caller there, Jeff was talking about the Dixiecrats
and talked about them and how theywere, you know, kind of holding
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on to the whatever values if youwant to call them, that of the
Deep South and the races and theJim Crow and all that stuff that that
definitely happened and existed. It's inall the history books. There's documentaries that
are made about certain parts of thecountry. There are people in different geographical
locations. Even though I don't necessarilywant to agree with anything that they have
to say, especially when it comesto race, race, race relations,
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anything like that. That's not meand that's not most of us to live
up here. But for people whoare represented by people in maybe those geographical
areas, those might be that mightbe a candidate that they think makes sense
to them. I don't think it'sjust one terrible person with bad ideas that
is somehow working their way in acorrupt government to get into Washington, d
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C. I just think they canspeak to their constituency who elects them better
than somebody else can. And it'smore of a reflection of the people that
live in those geographical districts than itis necessarily about just these people specifically,
they're allowed and empowered to be whoeverthey are. And that's fine because this
is America and you should have theability to have any ideology that you want.
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But at the same time, Ithink it also is important for us
to be able to challenge each otherabout these different perspectives and what the different
ideologies mean. Because we are sucha vascination with three hundred and thirty plus
million people in fifty states and aton of tearries that cover up the I
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think we're the fourth largest geographical nationin the entire world. There's a lot
of space and a lot of peoplethat deal with different challenges on a day
to day, week to week,month to month, year to year basis,
and we can't answer for all ofthose because we can't relate to all
of them, which is why it'sso important for us to talk to each
other. But as soon as westart having people from all these different places,
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especially the two polar opposite sides ofthe political spectrum, like the far
left leaning liberals and the far rightleaning Democrats or sorry, the far right
leaning conservatives for them, some ofthem, not all of them, not
even a majority of them, buteven just a few of them saying that
Elwell, the other side is eitherfascist, so the other side is communists
or Marxists, or you know what, if we lose this election, it's
(31:47):
going to be violence. So there'sgoing to be a civil war. Either
they're gonna do it or we're goingto do it or whatever. It's just
not healthy, and nobody, Idon't think can tell me it is.
I'll continue our conversation and chat morewith you. Call in four h two
five to five, eight eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten KF Hi,
Hi, Oh hey are you?No? Hi? Oh? Colorado?
Which Boulder, No, Fort Collins, No, come Ian Veil, Denver,
(32:15):
Come on? Sure? Anyway,there you go. It high is
like mile high? Come on?What do you think? Oh? What
do you do? Whatever? Eric'son our phone line four oh two,
five five, eight to eleven ten. Eric, We appreciate you for holding
and being part of our show today. What's on your mind? Yeah,
I've got two comments. I'm gonnamake him very quick for you. Regarding
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a previous caller talking about losing acontract to Windstream, I went through the
same exact thing. I had thirtysix employees. I sat him down thirty
two of the thirty six agreed thatthey did not want to take the shot,
and because of that, I lostmy business. So that was just
a quick antidote, just only becausehe brought it up. But my real
comment is is I completely agree withyou. That was some of the most
(33:01):
irresponsible language I've ever heard from acongressman. And I think the Senate needs
to immediately make a motion to censureCongressman Lang And I think there needs to
be an immediate follow up press releasefrom the Trump camp endorsing that language and
distancing themselves from it as far aspossible. Eric, that is actually there's
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some powerful stuff that you said inthere, And thanks so much for listening
and calling in man. I appreciateyou for talking to us about this stuff
today. Yeah. Okay, sohe's a state senator from Ohio. I'm
guessing maybe the Trump and Dvance campaignfeels like, like, who really saw
this? Do we really need tomake a big deal out of this?
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It's already been made a big dealby the other guys. I would think
that anybody who is in opposition of, you know, the Donald Trump campaign
found this George Lang audio and ifyou didn't hear it, I think I'll
I think we're gonna have a longenough conversation here that I can revisit the
audio, but basically just says,if Trump loses in November, it's going
to be a civil war, likewe're going to need a civil war to
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bring it back. He truly believesthis, you know, sixty something year
old, you know, George Lang. I'm sure he'll be on the front
lines there of this alleged civil war. But I think it would be a
powerful statement. I don't know aboutthe centsuring, I don't know how Ohio's
state Senate works. I do feellike for the Trump campaign basically to distance
themselves not just from the words thatwere being used, but probably even from
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that guy and say he does notspeak for this campaign, because this was
the complete opposite of the way thatDonald Trump was trying to talk on Thursday.
And just irresponsible is a great wordfor it. Steve's on a phone
line of four h two, five, five, eight to eleven ten.
Steve, how are you doing today? Hey, Emory? Yeah, real
quick, I just want to responda little bit to Jeff's comment on the
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quote unquote insurrection on January sixth.You know, the spin that's been put
on it by the fake news media. Is similar to the peaceful protests that
preceded it that summer where over onehundred million of damage was done in peaceful
protests January sixth. The real storyon that is how they were allowed to
breach the capital. I had abunch of friends who participated that day,
(35:15):
not in the capital, but inthe events of that day, had a
great time. Everything was super Itwas some wackos who took over the capitol.
But how were they allowed to breachthe capital, why the National Guard
wasn't called in, and how themedia continues to put out there that Trump
actually instigated that. Yeah, youknow, there needs to be some conversations
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about that and some nonpartisan discussion.So that was my two cents on that,
and I appreciate your call, ThanksSteve, Thanks for listening, Thanks
for calling in. Okay, inregards to that specific incident, and I
don't really want to talk about thatspecific incident, but it is kind of
related to what people are talking abouthere right. The violent response is to
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losing elections. It takes a fewbad actors. I know. I'm about
to have people call in or emailin and say Hey, this was a
setup and none of those people werebad people and all this stuff was going
down or whatever. And look,I'm sorry, I don't want to be
this guy, but anybody who wasactively a participant in that situation, whether
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it was from the inside out,like Pelosi in the way that she,
you know, grandstanded on the wholething, even though we know for a
fact that the National Guard was offeredby Donald Trump because he said they I'm
going to have a rowdy crowd thereand she said, no, we don't
need it, or whatever, basicallybegging for something bad to happen. That
doesn't just make all of the peoplethat encroached upon the capital in the way
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that they did. And I'm notsaying everyone, but I'm saying the real
bad actors who wanted to vandalize things. They wanted to pick things up,
they wanted to carry things out,they wanted to steal things, they wanted
to vandalize things. I don't wantto condone any of that either, because
of the exact same reason I don'twant to condone any of the looting or
the damaged property from cities around Americain the wake of the George Floyd protests
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in twenty twenty. That should that'sI think that's a fair perspective on that.
However, from henceforth, I don'teven like that happened in the past.
Yeah, we can go back,we can revisit it. We can
talk about security issues, we cantalk about how dangerous it was or how
much it was blown out of proportion, how Donald Trump has miscast is a
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guy who led the charge when reallyhad nothing to do with him all that
stuff. People from different perspectives havedifferent thoughts about what happened on that day.
And that's over four years ago oralmost four years ago. Now it's
a yeah, three and a halfyears ago. So I want to talk
about why we shouldn't be using languagelike George Lang Ohio State Center use,
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or even what Randy what's her nameWinegarden said with the American Federation of Teachers,
saying that violence comes after we electfascists, and that's going to be
coming if we let that other sidewin. We used our votes to keep
make this a more perfect union andnot voting those fascists over there. The
dangerous wording of things that truly canspark violent interaction or reactions from people in
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this country. Not ten days afterDonald Trump there was an attempt assassination on
his head that killed another guy andhit two other bystanders on top of grazing
the president former president. Right,it's just dangerous language to be using in
a time where people are really onedge about American politics. It shouldn't be
that way. It doesn't have tobe that way, but we've made it
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that way because the politicians have createdthose conversations from the top and it's trickled
down to the rest of us.Do you really think that they're looking out
for us if something like that happened, you think they're going to do the
same type of fighting for us,we the people than what we are being
incited to do by somebody like GeorgeLang. You just can't listen to these
people and believe what they say.This is what I've been saying for a
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long time. They balance each otherout, the far lefts that do this,
the far rights that do this,And we need to be objective in
the way that we look at that. Much like that previous caller said,
you know, it's dangerous and irresponsiblelanguage to be using at a time like
this, and it would probably behoovethe Trump candidacy campaign to distance themselves from
those comments now that they're going viraland people are going all over the place
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with it because it happened just yesterday. Johnny's on the phone line four two,
five, five, eight to eleventen, Johnny, Welcome to the
show. What's on your mind today? What's on my mind is this is
just normal rhetoric from the right.It always has been, even Donald Trump
who got up there and started sayingthe left ring, the left wing extremists,
all that stuff right after you saidit was going to, you know,
(39:43):
try to help keep things together orwhatever, you know, don't I
don't really care anymore. It's atthe point where I don't believe anything Republicans
say anymore. I have to doublecheck with a Democrat or a progressive in
order to make sure I'm getting thecorrect information because it's correct. Money just
to just to just to clarify thecorrect information that you would be looking for,
(40:04):
Johnny, not not necessarily totally correctinformation, actual the factual information,
because Donald Trump has said multiple timesI never said that, or I didn't
say that, right, And thenwe'll go back and they'll play the video
of him saying what he's saying,he didn't say. Okay, and Johnny,
I'm not here to debate you onthat, but that's one guy that
we're talking about here. I thoughtwe were talking more about the greater good
of America at this point. Thegreater good of America is going to be
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Unfortunately, it's going to be withprogressives for you guys, unfortunately, because
the thing is is left wing peopleare trying to expand rights for every US
citizen. Uh. You know,we got people like on the right who
are sitting there saying, oh,no, we can't we don't need health
care, No, we don't weneed we can't have this, you can't
have no gay marriage, blah blahblah whatever. They just want to take
(40:51):
rights away all the time. Andso I don't see what was so radical
about what that teacher was saying.What right can you can you? Johnny,
I hate up? Can you giveme like a person or two that
was actively advocating to remove all ofthe rights for all these people, like
a specific person that that that wassaying Project twenty five, what is the
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name? What is it? Oh? Yeah, because it's the truth,
that's what they want to do.They want to whittle down your right The
Heritage Foundation, guys that wrote anine hundred page manifest to a conservative thinking
points and you think that that thethey're not even in Congress, that those
are the Roberts. Yeah, okay, streaming for blood, that's what the
(41:34):
right wing, that's what that's whatall these conservatives do. And you know,
I'd say at this point, youknow, like there is no point
and even you know, there's nopoint in even having a discussion with people
like that anymore. There might besome Republicans who I might agree with,
Oh yeah, hey, you know, maybe we need the lower taxes.
I'm cool with that, less regulationin some areas. Yeah, maybe that's
maybe that's something. But when youstart talking like trial by combat and and
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and you know it's not Johnny,Johnny, I agree, I'm I'm agreeing
with you on that type of conversationrhetoric. But it's as dangerous when you
talk about somebody saying violence will cometo us if we elect it, like
if we elect fascists now, violencewill come to us later down the line.
And you're telling me, but it'snot the truth, Johnny. It's
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history. Look what they did whenthey elected Hitler. Hitler wrong, gosh,
oh my god, you're you're okay. So so you're the art of
the deal is the new mind comfiis what you're saying, Okay, Johnny,
Wow? Uh yeah, yeah yeah, because Kevin Roberts is a guy
running for Johnny. Johnny, you'relosing me here, okay, Like trying
to have a good conversation, andnow you throw the Hitler thing out there,
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because Johnny, all you're trying todo is and you're successful in doing
so, you're ratling up the conserveservative bass that listens to this show.
And also, yeah, yes,you know, Johnny, Johnny, this
is what if you're gonna interrupt me, Johnny, if you're not gonna let
me talk on my own show,I can't have you on the show.
I can't talk to you when it'shappening. So here's the point, Johnny,
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And I've let this call go onfor three full minutes now, It's
longer than anybody else talked to metoday. I'm just telling you, point
blank, if you think the guysin the Heritage Foundation are the deep state
of the right, who are goingto if Republicans win elections, all of
a sudden push all nine hundred pagesof that thing in when Republicans have been
elected and have been in control ofthe House, of the Senate, of
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the executive branch of this government.They are in control right now in the
Supreme Court of the United States,and quite literally, almost none of that
has even approached to happen. Youare blind to the fact that you just
hate people who disagree with you ideologically, and that's just the facts of the
matter, Johnny. I hate tobreak it to you like that. I'm
totally cool with you being a guywho likes liberal things. I love that
(43:52):
you like this show and you liketo call in and disagree with everything that
I say or what other people say. But I think it's more important that
you understand that we have evidence ofwhat's happened in this country over two hundred
and forty eight years, and noneof what you are saying has happened in
the modern era, no matter whowas in control of what chambers or what
branch of government, it just hasn'thappened. Johnny, I appreciate you for
(44:15):
listening out, Noe. We're ata time, Johnny, my show I
get to figure out when the buzzerhits Buzzer Bank. See yeah, see
you, Johnny. Call back anothertime and maybe I'll give you another three
minutes of my show for twenty isa time for twenty Indeed news Radio eleven
ten kfab Emory's songer Share It withSomeone you Love on news Radio eleven ten
(44:37):
kfab. Nick. I appreciate youcalling in. You got something on your
mind today? Yeah, I justhave a question. I was talking with
some coworkers today and I was wonderingif Planner It really does get federal tax
dollars number one and number two,why why would they be elfible to have
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fun from our tax the government collection. Yeah, so this is a good,
good question, Nick, and Iappreciate you calling in. Based on
what I know, there are reimbursementsthat are made for providing services to people
that are covered by Medicaid, andthen grants from government agencies for planned parenthood.
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I don't have like recent data.I don't know how it's changed.
I'm sure they get some money likemost other medical places are. And I'm
sure that people will argue with meand say that me using the term medical
for planned parenthood is probably inaccurate.It's not something I know that much about
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Nick, and I apologize that Ican't be of more help to you.
Maybe this is something I could morefully investigate. We see planned parenthood as
like family planning, which is likea safe way. I guess to say
abortion care and things like that.I don't know how much else they do.
I wouldn't be able to tell youfrom firsthand experience, so I guess
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I don't know. There are manyother places that do different types of work,
whether it's abortion care or stdcare orsomething like that, in different spots,
and they potentially would get grants fromthe government. There's a lot of
other random things that get grants fromthe government, like towns that want to
fix up their city squares, oryou know, arts projects that you know,
(46:29):
maybe a movie wanting to film,like maybe they'll get grant money from
a state or a municipality to filmscenes of the movie in that location,
which they think could help generate plentyof maybe tourism for it. I'm not
sure how that stuff is qualified either. I'll be completely honest, So to
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answer your question, I don't reallyhave a good answer to your question,
Nick, I guess honesty's the bestpolicy. Maybe I don't have all the
answers. I don't know. Idon't know, I don't know. But
if that's something that people really wantto know about the here and the now,
if I can find a very nonpartisan political, non politically partisan person
(47:12):
to give me just the facts ofthe matter without spinning it in a political
direction, I'd love to give youthat information and then we can have a
political debate whether or not that that'sa useful use of taxpayer dollars. But
there's an awful lot of stuff that'sgoing to taxpayer dollars from our federal government
that I'm sure most of us wouldnot agree with. Four twenty eight.
We'll move on. The conversation needsto change before I lose my mind here
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on news radio eleven ten Kfab.Emery Sunger on news radio eleven ten Kfab
New Jersey senator kept saying, I'mnot going anywhere. I'm not going.
Well, he gone, he gosee you later, alligator after a while,
crocodile, And for what he took, he probably should be in jail,
but you know, it is whatit is, all right. So
we finally know how many shots theshooter took. By the way, this
is something that people were estimating atbut we didn't have a specific number.
(00:24):
And it wasn't until today that PennsylvaniaPolice Commissioner Christopher Paris, who we alluded
to a little bit earlier, hesaid in the last hour or so that
he believes the number is eight.Eight casings were recovered. How did it
take ten days to have this completelyconfirmed? Again, just a lack of
communication to the American public about whathappened. People were saying four, people
(00:44):
were saying six. People are justsaying a handful. The number is eight.
We now have confirmation. Also,are we okay with the news outlets
harassing the parents of the shooter,Thomas Krok? Are we because that last
night, Monday night, some peoplein the news went to Bethel Park,
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Pennsylvania, and they found them exitinga grocery store and try to ask them
a bunch of questions, and allhe said was, we're going to release
a statement when our legal counsel advisesus to do so, and until then
we have no comment. We justwant to try to take care of ourselves
right now, Please just give usour space. Are we okay? Like?
Is it okay for? Is itnews outlets doing their job? Or
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is this done and bad taste?Here to be questioning, especially in some
a place like a supermarket parking lotthe parents of Thomas Crooks. I don't
think there's a way to prevent thisfrom happening in a free society. There
isn't. But is it? Isit nasty or is this just journalists doing
their job? I guess is whatI'm trying to figure out. Well,
(01:51):
it's another form of paparazzi. Itis. It's exactly like that. They
wouldn't be there if it wasn't goingto help their career get clicks, and
and that's great getting clicks. Theheadline. The headline says Trump's shooter's father
returns to public life, says,we just want to try to take care
of ourselves. But if you like, pair that down and you go onto
like a news like at Google andjust search the parents of Thomas Crooks.
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This is one of the things thatpops up. And you know what,
the headline says, Trump shooters parentsspeak for first time, right, No,
yeah, I mean that's how yougot to title it, right,
Just let the audience have their imaginationrun wild while they click that article.
Then they click it and then it'stwo paragraphs and it tells them nothing more
than they already knew, and theywasted their time and we move on.
(02:39):
Welcome to media today. Yeah,we're the media. Can we can we
differentiate ourselves from some of the likethis would be something I would never do.
I'm not I don't want to bethat guy. They're Okay, here's
another personal anecdote. And I'm tryingto just I tell this because this is
I'm trying to illustrate who I am. I'm on the air with you for
twenty hours a week most of thetime. I want you to know me
(03:00):
the best that you can. Iwant you to feel like this is a
safe space and you can you cantrust me with whatever information you're hoping I
say, and that if you wantedto talk to me, whether it's via
email, social media or on thephone, that you feel like you can
do that with whatever ideas that youhave in your head, as long as
it's a cordial conversation. This issomething that I struggled with. I was
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the sports slash news director at avery small radio station in southeastern Iowa at
twenty three, twenty four years old, okay, And as I was doing
work one day, my boss calledme in and she's she's got a scanner
and she was always way better atlistening to the scanner than I was.
I always felt it was kind ofstrange, and I didn't really want to
do that. I know that wasdumb of me, because that was certainly
(03:44):
part of my job at the time. But she said, something weird's happening
at this residence. And I knowthis residence to be where an NFL star
lived in our small town. Oh, hearly an NFL star. He was
a star player for the iowhaw Gyswas Tyler Sash. People know who he
is. He's in his twenties,still had a very brief NFL career,
(04:08):
won a Super Bowl with the NewYork Giants, but had a very prolific
career at the University of Iowa andit's from this small town and she said
this is definitely where he's living whenhe's in town. And all this scanner
stuff talking about needing ambulances and stuffand that they have like a body is
at that residence and so my alertis up. Okay, I wonder what's
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going on. And about two orthree hours later, there was a press
release sent out by a very briefone, but a press really sent out
by the police department and said,Tyler Sash is we responded to a call
this morning at this residence and wedon't have specific details, but twenty seven
year old Tyler Sash was found deceasedin this residence. It died and they
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got he was doing the DJ andat because they had live music people in
this small town radio station, whichit was nice at the time because I
didn't have to interrupt like satellite programming. But he was just like, hey,
Tyler Sash is dead, Like howare we going to do this?
And what do you think I did? And again I'm telling you this because
it's difficult for me. I waslike, Man, I don't know how
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to break this news. I didn'tgo to journalism school. I don't like
talking about this kind of private stuff. I don't want to talk about this
private stuff in this small town.This guy's a hero to these people,
and you could probably guess what theheck happened to this guy. It was
very clearly not foul play, andhe was overdose. He had overdosed,
(05:40):
essentially, and we had kind ofenough pieces. I didn't want to I
wasn't ever going to say that becausewe didn't have confirmation on that, but
this was going to be a sensitivething for people in this town to hear
and to talk about. And Ipanicked, and I wet my pants proverbially,
and I just said, I'm justthere's gi me some time here.
I'm trying to figure out what todo, and didn't break that news for
(06:00):
another like thirty minutes to an hour. It was a dumb decision. I
should have done it right away,that's the news, but that's I can't
do that. I don't want todo that same thing with this. I
feel bad for these parents. I'mnot saying that we completely should exonerate them
and leave them completely alone. They'vebeen cooperating with the investigation of this,
But what are we ever going toexpect to get out of them by pestering
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them in a shopping center or ina parking lot of a supermarket. Do
you think they're going to give youanything? You think they're gonna actually say
anything of note? Are we goingto continue to have people following them around
until then? That's the healthy thingto do in this society. I'm just
saying there's a medium balance between tellingpeople exactly what they need to know,
which is what I failed to doin that scenario when I was a young
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professional that was technically in charge ofthe news department at this radio station in
small town, Iowa, and doingwhat these people are doing, pestering and
following around very paparazzi like knowing there'snot going to be any legitimate information that's
going to come of that except thesensational is of hey, we got your
picture, and hey we got aquote, even if it is just no
comment, and I can throw itup on a website or a social media
(07:05):
post and title it first words byTrump shooter's parents, and it just it
does it sits wrong with me,and it bothers me. Maybe I'm wrong,
but That's where I'm at on it. If you've got some thoughts you
can go ahead and call in it. Four two five five eight eleven ten.
Four h two five five eight eleventen. We got more on the
way, and I got some audioto play which could fire up some conversation
(07:30):
here in a second, So stickaround on news Radio eleven ten kfab.
Emery sung on news Radio eleven tenKFAB. I sent Matt a couple of
things to play here, the firstof which is to Randy Winegarten. Matt,
you're a normal American person. Youknow who Randy Winingarten is. I'd
not heard that name before. Okay, So for those who aren't regularly following
(07:56):
American politics, Randy Winegarden might stillslip your mind. And although you probably
are familiar with some of the stuffthat she has said or done in what
she's responsible for, but Randy Winingardenis the president of the American Federation of
Teachers. Basically, she's the leaderof the teachers in the country. I
(08:16):
am about to play you something thatshe said yesterday in regards to this is
at the American Federation of Teachers Conventionopening session yesterday, and the tone basically,
I just want to it's like aminute and a half long hang with
it that you're going to probably disagreewith the way she's talking. I just
(08:39):
want to use this as an illustrationabout tone in America. Not ten days
after Donald Trump suffered a gunshot woundin an attempted assassination, a situation that
killed a guy, injured a coupleof other bystanders by a twenty year old
person. And we don't know ifit's politically motivated, but we all from
(09:00):
everybody on the left end a loton the right, that we need to
change the way that we talk aboutAmerican politics. Well, here is important
person left leaning, Randy Winingarten,the President of the American Federation of Teachers,
at the American Federations of Teachers Conventionopening session yesterday. The November elections
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will determine which path we take asa nation. Progress is indeed possible,
but so is the eradication of therights and freedoms we hold dear. Historians
like Timothy Snyder and Heather Cox Richardson, who studies threats to democracy and how
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fascists come to Bauer, conclude thatit is seldom a dramatic event or attack
that lives fascism in the door.The violence comes later after they are voted
in. Voting it's still our bestdefense against tyranny and fascism, and it's
(10:07):
our best offense to create the betterfuture we dream of, and march for
progress is possible, but not guaranteed. When the history books are written about
this moment, let them record thatwe the people United, mobilized and voted
(10:31):
down this existential threat to democracy andfreedom, that we continue the march for
progress, that we lay the foundationfor a better future, and that we
sought to create how more perfect unionprogresses possible. Cake marching, and they're
(10:56):
gonna play a real cheesy song,and I cut it there because doing here
existential threat to democracy. The violencecomes later after they are voted in.
It is seldom a dramatic event orattack that lets fascism in the door.
This is the exact rhetoric that thecurrent administration said, we need to take
(11:18):
steps back from saying some of thesethings. They didn't specifically say this,
but they said we need to tonethe temperature down a little bit in our
political climate. Yet Randy Weiningarden heresaid fascism. The other guys they're fascists.
Don't elect them. We voted.She's jumping up and down, and
she's very very animated, very populoustype speech here by the person who is
(11:41):
the president of the American Federation ofTeachers. And this is where this is
a person that cares about education,and the way that she talks is certainly
going to make people who get offendedby being called fascists or existential threats to
democracy. Yeah, and we're supposedto believe that our teachers are going to
(12:03):
be completely fair in the way thatthey speak to our children. Pretty it's
tough, man, But because I'mfair, Matt, I'm fair, right,
I am if for nothing else,I try to be as fair as
possible. Can you confirm from athird person perspective? Yeah, So I
have a Republican, a guy bythe name of George Lang. He is
(12:24):
a state senator from Ohio, andhe got tabbed. He got tabbed to
be a speaker at the Trump andJD Vance rally in Middletown, Ohio.
That's where Jade Vance is from,of course, And this was yesterday as
well. And George Lang, Iguess maybe people in this region of Ohio
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or would be familiar with him becausehe's a state senator, but anybody around
the country, this is just anameless, faceless guy representing the Republican Party.
And here's what he sounded like aheadof JD Vance and Donald Trump at
this rally in Middletown, Ohio yesterday. Hi, fine, fine, we
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got time. Come on, hey. We are in the fight for the
soul of our nation. We arein a fight for our kids and our
grandkids, a fight that we cannever imagine. I believe wholeheartedly Donald Trump
and Butler County's JD. Vance arethe last chance to save our country politically.
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I'm afraid if we lose this one, it's going to take a civil
war to save the country. Andit will be saved. It's the greatest
experiment in the history of mankind.And if we come down to a civil
war, I'm glad we got peoplelike Schmidy and the Bikers for Trump on
our side. Needless to say,I mean, within two hours of this
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sty Senator George Lang to his twothousand followers on X said my statement below
on comments made earlier today, andit's a little screenshot, and this is
what he said. Remarks I madeearlier today at a rally in Middletown do
not accurately reflect my views. Iregret the device of remarks I made in
the excitement of the moment on stage, especially in the light of the assassination
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attempt on President Trump last week.We should all be mindful of what is
said at political events. Myself includedrandom guy representing the Republican Party, random
state senator from the state of Ohioon national television ahead of JD. Vance
and Donald Trump speaking where the entireworld is watching, and he says,
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if we lose this one, we'regoing to be in a civil war if
we want to take it back now. I don't disagree that he probably got
really hyped. He's never spoken,probably in front of a crowd like this,
and he may not ever get theopportunity once again. And George Lang's
probably I don't know, fifty sixtysomething years old. You know, this
is a is certainly a guy thatyou know, this is maybe the highest
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moment he's ever going to have inhis political career. And maybe he did,
you know, take a little youknow what down his leg and decide
he needed to really amp it upfor the Vance Trump crowd. And I'm
guessing he walked back to the curtainafter he finished up speaking in JD.
Vance and all of Trump's people andanybody else in the backs like you gotta
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apologize for that. This is theexact same thing that they're gonna You don't
think the left is gonna grab thisand run with it, And of course
they already have. They're calling forhis resignation and saying, oh, this
is a fascist you ordered over there. Look at him, Look at him.
There he is. There's what you'reelecting if you elect Trump and Vance.
That's the guy, the guy thatbasically says it'll take a civil war
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to get the country back if welose this election. This is ten days
after we said we had to bemore careful about the way we talked about
this stuff, and here we havea state senator opening up for JD.
Vans and Donald Trump saying that we'regoing to have a civil war if we
lose. So there you go,somebody from the left somebody from the right
politically, and they're dangerous rhetoric aboutviolence in America because of politics. Can
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you imagine the world do we livein? Ten days after Donald Trump took
a gunshot to the year and aman died being in the way of an
assassination attempt. We're still talking aboutit like this unbelievable. Well, if
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up the conversation that we were justhaving about the different to two different perspectives.
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We had Randy Weiningarden from the AmericanFederation of Teachers talking about fascists and
if we elect fascists, it doesn'tlook like a big event, but then
they take over, they infiltrate,they dominate, and then they go ahead
and they jump into violence afterwards.Right, And their ed's in regards to
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you know, Donald Trump and youknow, Make America Grade Again movement,
and probably Republicans in general, becausesomebody like Randy Winegarden hates Republicans, basically
saying, hey, you know,be afraid of violence because those are the
people that they're gonna come there.You're going to round up people they don't
like, and it's going to beviolent afterwards, you can't elect them.
Total feel wrongering. And then youhave another guy, George lang who's this
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random guy, he's a state senatorfrom Ohio, who said, Hey,
if we lose this election, Ibelieve it's going to be a civil war
if we're going to take this thingback. Just said that nationally TELEVI to
Trump rally in Ohio. And thisis why I am. I want to
talk about this more than anything else, because we need to hold people more
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accountable for what they say. Wehad Joe Biden and all the high fullutant
Democrats say that they need a tone, like we need to tone down the
political climate right now. And thenyou had some Republicans that say, hey,
we need unity. Donald Trump dida speech and the theme was unity.
The first fifteen twenty minutes of it. That's all we talked about was
we need to be together for thecountry. He wants to be a president
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for everyone. Yet we have factionswithin these two political parties that are making
this more about themselves than they areabout the United States of America, as
if there is no way that youcan disagree about political perspectives and survive in
this nation. And I just hateto inform these people, but for the
better part of two hundred and fortyeight years since the Declaration of Independence was
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signed by our founding fathers, wehave had person after person serve in this
government, specifically at the federal level, whether it was when the capital was
in New York or when the capitalmoved to Washington, d c. And
they have mostly belonged to a politicalideology, if not a specific political party,
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which means if you have different politicalideologies in this country, which is
healthy, or different political parties,which is also healthy. I wish there
were a couple more real, feasibleones that people wanted to be a part
of, but that generally means thatpeople can disagree. Now, we did
have a civil war in the eighteensixties over several different items, most of
which were all very politically related.It was enough of a political disaster that
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we had Southern States seceding from theUnion, which led to the fighting right
four years where Americans just killed Americansover politics. Slavery was of course at
the forefront of that. I don'twant people to act like that's not a
political issue. It's also a humaneissue. It's a humanity issue, it's
a social issue, but it's alsoa political issue based on the ramifications of
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the economy in the South at thetime. Okay, but it was a
The fight was also in Congress orthese states and their people. They were
citing more north and South than theywere with their own political party. Different
political ideologies have existed in this nation, and for a not a four year
period of civil war, and probablya decade and a half before that,
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where there was a lot of divisiveness, wasn't quite nearly as rampant because guess
what, even though they had awar over it, we didn't have social
media. So I don't know whatrandom people in Iowa and Kansas were thinking
about all this stuff until they weresending their guys to war. But I
can tell you, for the mostpart, we've done pretty good as a
nation with differing political ideologies for thelast two hundred and forty eight years.
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Yet we still have people on thevery extreme some both sides of the aisle
that continually act like it's now ornever, do or die, you win
or we fight either direction, tryingto scare people into what the future will
be if you vote for the otherguys. That's not the America I wish
to live in, and hopefully it'snot the America that we continue to live
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in after this. Everybody's got tobe on board and how careful they are.
I can't have senator, say SenatorGeorge Lang saying this stuff about civil
war in front of all these cameras, in front of all these people,
and then running on Twitter and apologizingfor it an hour later. That doesn't
do it. That doesn't do itfor me. It's no for me.
Dog, I need you to becareful about what you say when you're in
front of the cameras. I don'tcare about how excitable you might be in
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front of a large crowd. Gotto be way more careful about this stuff
because this is the kind of thingthat generates that kind of political hatred.
And it's just unfortunate that after theassassination attempt on a former president, he
put time in with his speech writersto give us a speech about unity in
this country. What five six daysago, and now we're right back at
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it. Both sides just bombs away. Guys. John's on our phone line
A four two, five, five, eight eleven ten. John, thanks
for the call today. What doyou got for me? Are you a
nice talk with the Emory? Ifyou run for president, you got my
vote. Oh, I don't wantnone of that, John, Please don't
don't wish that upon me. Iwouldn't wish that upon yet. But I'm
more of a moderate right in themiddle, and I listened to a lot
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of political talk when I'm working overthe years, and yes, you're right
about to talk a civil war.They're dreaming within what one or two days,
we won't have medicine, within threefour days, there won't be food,
they're dreaming. So nobody wants thecivil war. I gotta throw however,
though, I don't like the rhetoricthat I hear coming from the left
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over the last four or five years, very violent, and I'm I'm a
non I didn't take the job.I'm too smart for that. I knew
the m RNA JAB was a toxicand so I lost the contract with Windstream.
I wouldn't say I own my ownbusiness. I had liberals wanting to
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lock guys like me up, putme away, destroy my future, destroy
my freedom. I was on OStreet during the BLM and Keifa riat here
in Lincoln. I saw that thingfirsthand. And I honestly do think the
left is violent, and I thinkthe right is trying to defend themselves.
But personally I'm in the middle.Yeah, And that's my thing. My
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thing, John is is there's there'sThey're bad guys, bad actors on both
sides, you know what I'm saying. I honestly believe. I honestly think
there's far more time ten on theleft. I honestly do. And and
John, I don't. I don't. I don't have the numbers on that,
but I'm saying that they're like onerotten apple can can ruin the whole
bunch kind of thing, you knowwhat I'm saying. And they're going to
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use the words from this random guyin Ohio. And John, I really
appreciate the call. Thanks for listeningto us today. But you have the
uh, you have a guy likeJoe State Ohio State Senator George Lang saying
something like this, and that's goingto be used against Donald Trump. It's
going to be used against JD.Vance. It's going to be used against
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Republicans in their race for the Houseof Representatives or the Senate. It's going
to be used against people running forstate Senate and state representative spots. Depending
on which state you live in,it's going to be utilized against them.
And just because you might ideologically agreewith the things that George Lang would say,
most conservatives would, you would thinkit is not healthy to just outright
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say if we lose now, wewill be fighting a civil war to win
it back. That is a horriblething to say if you're trying to live
in a healthy society. Just becausewe lose elections doesn't mean we can't win
the next one. I understand whypeople feel the way that they do about
certain political parties. And an oldergentleman call in during the commercial break didn't
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get him on the air, andhe was talking about this America is so
far gone, we probably do needto have a fight if we lose this
election. It's like, sorry,but this guy, he's not going to
be a part of that fight.He's in his eighties, so I'm sorry.
I'm not going to necessarily be listeningto the seventy seventy five eighty eighty
five year old people that say,the young people who are going to live
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in this country for the next fortyfifty sixty years, well, we need
to fight now, otherwise we'll neverget this country back to the way it
was. How can would have happenedif your parents and grandparents told you that
when you were growing up, wouldyou have just like okay? Because it
didn't happen. So whatever issues weregoing on, the hippie movement, civil
rights movement, a very contentious timein America, were getting rid of Jim
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Crow laws, Vietnam War was goingon, there were a bunch of people
protests in that, but none ofthat was apparently important enough for us to
have a civil war in this country, was it? But all of a
sudden now it is, And arebeing told this by people who are much
much older than we are, includingGeorge Lang himself. That's not an ageous
comment. It just pardoned me inmy early thirties for saying I don't want
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to have a civil war in thiscountry over political ideaogies. I'm sorry,
I'm sure I'm going to conjure upsome more people correcting. So you can
call in at four, two,five, five, eight, eleven ten.
I'm wide open here. I'm goingnowhere for the next couple hours.
News Radio eleven ten kfab Emrie Sungeron news Radio eleven ten kfab. Jeff
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is on the phone line, andI appreciate you for holding Jeff, what's
on your mind? A little backgroundfirst, I'm eighty one years old.
Grew up in Skyler, Colfax County. It was an even Stephen County Democrat
Republican. My father was the mayor. My great grandfather served in the legislature.
So I've been active or interested inpolitics. The thing is, the
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last most important thing that's happened inmy lifetime was the revolt, the insurrection,
the destruction of our capital. Thatsums everything up. You can talk
about forgiving, forgetting whatever, whenyou have people that will go into the
Capitol destroy it and I mean todestroy and defecate and urinate, and it's
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on top of it. That's thething that boggles my mind. And if
we used to have the Dixiecrets,the Democrats used to have the Dixiecrets.
Now they have migrated to the RepublicanParty, and I think I don't know
what you call now, But they'restill dixiecrets. They are the people that
were Jim Crow people. They werethe Lynchers, they were the ku Kuks
planned people. They were they werethe dregs of society, and they still
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are the dregs of society. There'stwenty or thirty percent of them. They're
the dregs of society. And Idon't know how you solve it. Well,
I guess, Jeff, there's alot to unpack with what you just
said there. But I think whatwe're getting at here is that there are
people that are not great in theway that they think, and they're not
thinking in a modern way, anduh, it's hard to disagree with that.
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But at the same time, Idon't want to speak for people that
don't represent me, you know whatI mean, Like I if they're this
sounds stupid, Jeff, I'll justlet you go because I don't want you
to just deficit on hold and listento me like this, try to talk
through my thoughts here. But ippreciateyou calling him okay here, tell me
if I overstep a line, Matt, you're kind of my safety net here,
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okay. I Alexandria Costu Cortes,we would say is probably very left
leaning. Would that be an accuratestatement? Yeah, that's not trying to
create an argument over that, Justlike based on what you would think a
neutral person would think ideologically in thiscountry, she is very far to the
left. She's incredibly liberal and progressive. She represents a district in New York
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that is roughly ninety or so percentDemocrat most of the time. Okay,
it's somebody like Alexandria Costu Cortez isprobably a lot more normal to that group
of people that she is representing thanshe would be for somebody like me or
you, or somebody in the Midwestat all, outside of maybe the city
(28:53):
of Chicago. Right, So,while we can say she's terrible, we
need to get her out of thewe need to we need to move AOC
out of the mix because she's toocrazy. We don't want her to be
a part of Congress anymore. Well, the thing is, she is representing
a very small geographical space with alot of people in it, and like
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an overwhelming majority of them are veryliberal people. She is more normal to
them than we are normal to eachother, if that makes sense. Now,
what that guy was the caller there, Jeff was talking about the Dixiecrats
and talked about them and how theywere, you know, kind of holding
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on to the whatever values if youwant to call them, that of the
Deep South and the races and theJim Crow and all that stuff that that
definitely happened and existed. It's inall the history books. There's documentaries that
are made about certain parts of thecountry. There are people in different geographical
locations. Even though I don't necessarilywant to agree with anything that they have
to say, especially when it comesto race, race, race relations,
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anything like that. That's not meand that's not most of us to live
up here. But for people whoare represented by people in maybe those geographical
areas, those might be that mightbe a candidate that they think makes sense
to them. I don't think it'sjust one terrible person with bad ideas that
is somehow working their way in acorrupt government to get into Washington, d
(30:21):
C. I just think they canspeak to their constituency who elects them better
than somebody else can. And it'smore of a reflection of the people that
live in those geographical districts than itis necessarily about just these people specifically,
they're allowed and empowered to be whoeverthey are. And that's fine because this
is America and you should have theability to have any ideology that you want.
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But at the same time, Ithink it also is important for us
to be able to challenge each otherabout these different perspectives and what the different
ideologies mean. Because we are sucha vascination with three hundred and thirty plus
million people in fifty states and aton of tearries that cover up the I
(31:02):
think we're the fourth largest geographical nationin the entire world. There's a lot
of space and a lot of peoplethat deal with different challenges on a day
to day, week to week,month to month, year to year basis,
and we can't answer for all ofthose because we can't relate to all
of them, which is why it'sso important for us to talk to each
other. But as soon as westart having people from all these different places,
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especially the two polar opposite sides ofthe political spectrum, like the far
left leaning liberals and the far rightleaning Democrats or sorry, the far right
leaning conservatives for them, some ofthem, not all of them, not
even a majority of them, buteven just a few of them saying that
Elwell, the other side is eitherfascist, so the other side is communists
or Marxists, or you know what, if we lose this election, it's
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going to be violence. So there'sgoing to be a civil war. Either
they're gonna do it or we're goingto do it or whatever. It's just
not healthy, and nobody, Idon't think can tell me it is.
I'll continue our conversation and chat morewith you. Call in four h two
five to five, eight eleven ten, News Radio eleven ten KF Hi,
Hi, Oh hey are you?No? Hi? Oh? Colorado?
Which Boulder, No, Fort Collins, No, come Ian Veil, Denver,
(32:15):
Come on? Sure? Anyway,there you go. It high is
like mile high? Come on?What do you think? Oh? What
do you do? Whatever? Eric'son our phone line four oh two,
five five, eight to eleven ten. Eric, We appreciate you for holding
and being part of our show today. What's on your mind? Yeah,
I've got two comments. I'm gonnamake him very quick for you. Regarding
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a previous caller talking about losing acontract to Windstream, I went through the
same exact thing. I had thirtysix employees. I sat him down thirty
two of the thirty six agreed thatthey did not want to take the shot,
and because of that, I lostmy business. So that was just
a quick antidote, just only becausehe brought it up. But my real
comment is is I completely agree withyou. That was some of the most
(33:01):
irresponsible language I've ever heard from acongressman. And I think the Senate needs
to immediately make a motion to censureCongressman Lang And I think there needs to
be an immediate follow up press releasefrom the Trump camp endorsing that language and
distancing themselves from it as far aspossible. Eric, that is actually there's
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some powerful stuff that you said inthere, And thanks so much for listening
and calling in man. I appreciateyou for talking to us about this stuff
today. Yeah. Okay, sohe's a state senator from Ohio. I'm
guessing maybe the Trump and Dvance campaignfeels like, like, who really saw
this? Do we really need tomake a big deal out of this?
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It's already been made a big dealby the other guys. I would think
that anybody who is in opposition of, you know, the Donald Trump campaign
found this George Lang audio and ifyou didn't hear it, I think I'll
I think we're gonna have a longenough conversation here that I can revisit the
audio, but basically just says,if Trump loses in November, it's going
to be a civil war, likewe're going to need a civil war to
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bring it back. He truly believesthis, you know, sixty something year
old, you know, George Lang. I'm sure he'll be on the front
lines there of this alleged civil war. But I think it would be a
powerful statement. I don't know aboutthe centsuring, I don't know how Ohio's
state Senate works. I do feellike for the Trump campaign basically to distance
themselves not just from the words thatwere being used, but probably even from
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that guy and say he does notspeak for this campaign, because this was
the complete opposite of the way thatDonald Trump was trying to talk on Thursday.
And just irresponsible is a great wordfor it. Steve's on a phone
line of four h two, five, five, eight to eleven ten.
Steve, how are you doing today? Hey, Emory? Yeah, real
quick, I just want to responda little bit to Jeff's comment on the
(34:52):
quote unquote insurrection on January sixth.You know, the spin that's been put
on it by the fake news media. Is similar to the peaceful protests that
preceded it that summer where over onehundred million of damage was done in peaceful
protests January sixth. The real storyon that is how they were allowed to
breach the capital. I had abunch of friends who participated that day,
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not in the capital, but inthe events of that day, had a
great time. Everything was super Itwas some wackos who took over the capitol.
But how were they allowed to breachthe capital, why the National Guard
wasn't called in, and how themedia continues to put out there that Trump
actually instigated that. Yeah, youknow, there needs to be some conversations
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about that and some nonpartisan discussion.So that was my two cents on that,
and I appreciate your call, ThanksSteve, Thanks for listening, Thanks
for calling in. Okay, inregards to that specific incident, and I
don't really want to talk about thatspecific incident, but it is kind of
related to what people are talking abouthere right. The violent response is to
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losing elections. It takes a fewbad actors. I know. I'm about
to have people call in or emailin and say Hey, this was a
setup and none of those people werebad people and all this stuff was going
down or whatever. And look,I'm sorry, I don't want to be
this guy, but anybody who wasactively a participant in that situation, whether
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it was from the inside out,like Pelosi in the way that she,
you know, grandstanded on the wholething, even though we know for a
fact that the National Guard was offeredby Donald Trump because he said they I'm
going to have a rowdy crowd thereand she said, no, we don't
need it, or whatever, basicallybegging for something bad to happen. That
doesn't just make all of the peoplethat encroached upon the capital in the way
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that they did. And I'm notsaying everyone, but I'm saying the real
bad actors who wanted to vandalize things. They wanted to pick things up,
they wanted to carry things out,they wanted to steal things, they wanted
to vandalize things. I don't wantto condone any of that either, because
of the exact same reason I don'twant to condone any of the looting or
the damaged property from cities around Americain the wake of the George Floyd protests
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in twenty twenty. That should that'sI think that's a fair perspective on that.
However, from henceforth, I don'teven like that happened in the past.
Yeah, we can go back,we can revisit it. We can
talk about security issues, we cantalk about how dangerous it was or how
much it was blown out of proportion, how Donald Trump has miscast is a
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guy who led the charge when reallyhad nothing to do with him all that
stuff. People from different perspectives havedifferent thoughts about what happened on that day.
And that's over four years ago oralmost four years ago. Now it's
a yeah, three and a halfyears ago. So I want to talk
about why we shouldn't be using languagelike George Lang Ohio State Center use,
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or even what Randy what's her nameWinegarden said with the American Federation of Teachers,
saying that violence comes after we electfascists, and that's going to be
coming if we let that other sidewin. We used our votes to keep
make this a more perfect union andnot voting those fascists over there. The
dangerous wording of things that truly canspark violent interaction or reactions from people in
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this country. Not ten days afterDonald Trump there was an attempt assassination on
his head that killed another guy andhit two other bystanders on top of grazing
the president former president. Right,it's just dangerous language to be using in
a time where people are really onedge about American politics. It shouldn't be
that way. It doesn't have tobe that way, but we've made it
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that way because the politicians have createdthose conversations from the top and it's trickled
down to the rest of us.Do you really think that they're looking out
for us if something like that happened, you think they're going to do the
same type of fighting for us,we the people than what we are being
incited to do by somebody like GeorgeLang. You just can't listen to these
people and believe what they say.This is what I've been saying for a
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long time. They balance each otherout, the far lefts that do this,
the far rights that do this,And we need to be objective in
the way that we look at that. Much like that previous caller said,
you know, it's dangerous and irresponsiblelanguage to be using at a time like
this, and it would probably behoovethe Trump candidacy campaign to distance themselves from
those comments now that they're going viraland people are going all over the place
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with it because it happened just yesterday. Johnny's on the phone line four two,
five, five, eight to eleventen, Johnny, Welcome to the
show. What's on your mind today? What's on my mind is this is
just normal rhetoric from the right.It always has been, even Donald Trump
who got up there and started sayingthe left ring, the left wing extremists,
all that stuff right after you saidit was going to, you know,
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try to help keep things together orwhatever, you know, don't I
don't really care anymore. It's atthe point where I don't believe anything Republicans
say anymore. I have to doublecheck with a Democrat or a progressive in
order to make sure I'm getting thecorrect information because it's correct. Money just
to just to just to clarify thecorrect information that you would be looking for,
(40:04):
Johnny, not not necessarily totally correctinformation, actual the factual information,
because Donald Trump has said multiple timesI never said that, or I didn't
say that, right, And thenwe'll go back and they'll play the video
of him saying what he's saying,he didn't say. Okay, and Johnny,
I'm not here to debate you onthat, but that's one guy that
we're talking about here. I thoughtwe were talking more about the greater good
of America at this point. Thegreater good of America is going to be
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Unfortunately, it's going to be withprogressives for you guys, unfortunately, because
the thing is is left wing peopleare trying to expand rights for every US
citizen. Uh. You know,we got people like on the right who
are sitting there saying, oh,no, we can't we don't need health
care, No, we don't weneed we can't have this, you can't
have no gay marriage, blah blahblah whatever. They just want to take
(40:51):
rights away all the time. Andso I don't see what was so radical
about what that teacher was saying.What right can you can you? Johnny,
I hate up? Can you giveme like a person or two that
was actively advocating to remove all ofthe rights for all these people, like
a specific person that that that wassaying Project twenty five, what is the
(41:13):
name? What is it? Oh? Yeah, because it's the truth,
that's what they want to do.They want to whittle down your right The
Heritage Foundation, guys that wrote anine hundred page manifest to a conservative thinking
points and you think that that thethey're not even in Congress, that those
are the Roberts. Yeah, okay, streaming for blood, that's what the
(41:34):
right wing, that's what that's whatall these conservatives do. And you know,
I'd say at this point, youknow, like there is no point
and even you know, there's nopoint in even having a discussion with people
like that anymore. There might besome Republicans who I might agree with,
Oh yeah, hey, you know, maybe we need the lower taxes.
I'm cool with that, less regulationin some areas. Yeah, maybe that's
maybe that's something. But when youstart talking like trial by combat and and
(41:58):
and you know it's not Johnny,Johnny, I agree, I'm I'm agreeing
with you on that type of conversationrhetoric. But it's as dangerous when you
talk about somebody saying violence will cometo us if we elect it, like
if we elect fascists now, violencewill come to us later down the line.
And you're telling me, but it'snot the truth, Johnny. It's
(42:22):
history. Look what they did whenthey elected Hitler. Hitler wrong, gosh,
oh my god, you're you're okay. So so you're the art of
the deal is the new mind comfiis what you're saying, Okay, Johnny,
Wow? Uh yeah, yeah yeah, because Kevin Roberts is a guy
running for Johnny. Johnny, you'relosing me here, okay, Like trying
to have a good conversation, andnow you throw the Hitler thing out there,
(42:46):
because Johnny, all you're trying todo is and you're successful in doing
so, you're ratling up the conserveservative bass that listens to this show.
And also, yeah, yes,you know, Johnny, Johnny, this
is what if you're gonna interrupt me, Johnny, if you're not gonna let
me talk on my own show,I can't have you on the show.
I can't talk to you when it'shappening. So here's the point, Johnny,
(43:09):
And I've let this call go onfor three full minutes now, It's
longer than anybody else talked to metoday. I'm just telling you, point
blank, if you think the guysin the Heritage Foundation are the deep state
of the right, who are goingto if Republicans win elections, all of
a sudden push all nine hundred pagesof that thing in when Republicans have been
elected and have been in control ofthe House, of the Senate, of
(43:30):
the executive branch of this government.They are in control right now in the
Supreme Court of the United States,and quite literally, almost none of that
has even approached to happen. Youare blind to the fact that you just
hate people who disagree with you ideologically, and that's just the facts of the
matter, Johnny. I hate tobreak it to you like that. I'm
totally cool with you being a guywho likes liberal things. I love that
(43:52):
you like this show and you liketo call in and disagree with everything that
I say or what other people say. But I think it's more important that
you understand that we have evidence ofwhat's happened in this country over two hundred
and forty eight years, and noneof what you are saying has happened in
the modern era, no matter whowas in control of what chambers or what
branch of government, it just hasn'thappened. Johnny, I appreciate you for
(44:15):
listening out, Noe. We're ata time, Johnny, my show I
get to figure out when the buzzerhits Buzzer Bank. See yeah, see
you, Johnny. Call back anothertime and maybe I'll give you another three
minutes of my show for twenty isa time for twenty Indeed news Radio eleven
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(44:37):
kfab. Nick. I appreciate youcalling in. You got something on your
mind today? Yeah, I justhave a question. I was talking with
some coworkers today and I was wonderingif Planner It really does get federal tax
dollars number one and number two,why why would they be elfible to have
(44:59):
fun from our tax the government collection. Yeah, so this is a good,
good question, Nick, and Iappreciate you calling in. Based on
what I know, there are reimbursementsthat are made for providing services to people
that are covered by Medicaid, andthen grants from government agencies for planned parenthood.
(45:22):
I don't have like recent data.I don't know how it's changed.
I'm sure they get some money likemost other medical places are. And I'm
sure that people will argue with meand say that me using the term medical
for planned parenthood is probably inaccurate.It's not something I know that much about
(45:43):
Nick, and I apologize that Ican't be of more help to you.
Maybe this is something I could morefully investigate. We see planned parenthood as
like family planning, which is likea safe way. I guess to say
abortion care and things like that.I don't know how much else they do.
I wouldn't be able to tell youfrom firsthand experience, so I guess
(46:06):
I don't know. There are manyother places that do different types of work,
whether it's abortion care or stdcare orsomething like that, in different spots,
and they potentially would get grants fromthe government. There's a lot of
other random things that get grants fromthe government, like towns that want to
fix up their city squares, oryou know, arts projects that you know,
(46:29):
maybe a movie wanting to film,like maybe they'll get grant money from
a state or a municipality to filmscenes of the movie in that location,
which they think could help generate plentyof maybe tourism for it. I'm not
sure how that stuff is qualified either. I'll be completely honest, So to
(46:50):
answer your question, I don't reallyhave a good answer to your question,
Nick, I guess honesty's the bestpolicy. Maybe I don't have all the
answers. I don't know. Idon't know, I don't know. But
if that's something that people really wantto know about the here and the now,
if I can find a very nonpartisan political, non politically partisan person
(47:12):
to give me just the facts ofthe matter without spinning it in a political
direction, I'd love to give youthat information and then we can have a
political debate whether or not that that'sa useful use of taxpayer dollars. But
there's an awful lot of stuff that'sgoing to taxpayer dollars from our federal government
that I'm sure most of us wouldnot agree with. Four twenty eight.
We'll move on. The conversation needsto change before I lose my mind here
(47:35):
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