Hour 1- November 5, Bob Baffert

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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The good afternoon. Everybody walked at to eye on the
ball here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera,
You're Dave Silver. On Wednesday, surprise surprise, and we got
one at the controls over there. Sorry for not being
here two days, but I was in Vegas, you were working.
How about the Wildcats.

Speaker 3 (00:32):
Big weekend for the U of A sports teams.

Speaker 2 (00:35):
Yes, big weekend last weekend. Oh, because they won football
basketball and all is Tucson is right in the world
until the next game, till the next weekend.

Speaker 4 (00:47):
I know.

Speaker 5 (00:47):
We got the same kind of situation right with some
hoops on Friday night?

Speaker 2 (00:50):
And is it Friday night? They played Friday night?

Speaker 3 (00:53):
I think so.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
I thought it was Saturday going. Yeah, I just got home.
I could take a nap and then get ready Friday night.
That's even better because Saturday is free, you know, nothing
to do on Friday Saturday night after the football game
after Yeah, we'll see how long that takes and see
what happens is there. Yeah, So I was a little
bit shocked there, mister one. You went to the game,

(01:14):
didn't know that? Uh do you have to put that
on the time card? No? No, what did you think? Uh?

Speaker 6 (01:21):
Well, first off, before we talked about anything U of
A or sports, Yeah, because there was a horrific incident
that happened over the last days since I last been here,
since the shows last happened the three U of A students,
since I've seen you.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yes, it happened before the weekend, I think Thursday.

Speaker 6 (01:44):
Yeah, I never I never got to take that moment
because I was I was in those type of shoes.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
Uh, not that long ago. Oh, you've been a student,
being a student.

Speaker 6 (01:54):
You're just trying to have a good Halloween weekend, right
and you don't expect that to happen. So just wanted
to give my condolences to the family members and friends
of those three students.

Speaker 2 (02:04):
Good for you, Thank you for doing that.

Speaker 6 (02:07):
But yes, I was happily surprised in Vegas by the
Arizona Wildcats. It was definitely a different team than what
Tommy Lloyd teams look.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Like, more physical, more physical. That's three point shooting, three shooting, right, Well,
that was my question, Dad, ask you know I think,
in my concerns are different than yours. And that's my
probably my only number one, my only concern and my
probably biggest concern. You have something that's different.

Speaker 6 (02:36):
Yeah, So in my in my eyes, under Tommy Lloyd,
Arizona has not been a good free throw shooting team
when it counts. You get to those big games against
the Dues, against the Princeton's, against the Clemsons, and yeah,
yes you're shooting thirty eight free throws, but you're also
missing eight when you lose by eight.

Speaker 2 (02:57):
Or you know whatever. Yeah, you got you got to
keep them at least seventy five eighty percent. So you
were happy with what they did. They went thirty one
for thirty eight, thirty eight for thirty one for thirty eight.
Is that okay? With one? Sure? For Florida because he's
already said more than once that he'll trade the threes

(03:17):
to get to the line. Yeah, and that's what he did.
That's what the team did.

Speaker 6 (03:22):
Two for five from three not a major concern when
you're not shooting a lot. If if that turns into
a two for seven, then maybe a little bit more concerned.
But two for five against the defending champs you're gonna
take that.

Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, well, I mean we were talking about this.

Speaker 5 (03:37):
I think all along in the preseason is who's going
to hit those outside shots? So maybe they don't need
guys that we're going to score one hundred points, right,
you know, do they need someone to hit you? You know,
if someone's gonna score thirty and a couple other guys
are gonna combine for you know, thirty more.

Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, well to that point, I think that event they
didn't need that Saturday. Now, they'll eventually need that at
some point, whether either they're down by ten and they
need the points to rally or or whatever. But no,
they played a fantastic game. Obviously. The guy who stood
out was CoA, mister Arizona. Here's here's the funny thing.
And we talked about this, I think class He didn't

(04:11):
show any of this before Saturday. No, not at all. No,
we knew he was good. We knew he's good obviously
a little bit from his little jump shot. He likes
to get down. Yeah, right.

Speaker 5 (04:23):
We saw that over the summer though, when they were
in Europe and in that tournament. You could sort of
tell there was something there. If he plays in a
thirty five minutes. What's this going to produce?

Speaker 2 (04:31):
Right? Well, we saw it against equal numbers in terms
of being nineteen, yeah, not against the Florida types, true,
which he was fantastic in so many ways. The thing
about it, what strikes you about him? I mean, besides
the obviously being well built and you know, and I
wrote he was looked more like a tight end, yeah
than anything. But so what strikes you about him?

Speaker 6 (04:54):
His finishing ability, being able to go with the right
hand or the left hand. When he gets the bucket,
He's gonna finish shit, yeah, more often than not.

Speaker 5 (05:02):
Very very smooth, too very you know, relaxed kind of
on the court. There was really no sign of any
kind of panic. He looked like he knew he was
gonna do whenever he had the ball.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
Good one, yeah, good one? I think so too very
poised for being a freshman. He looks like a tight end,
but has the basketball savvy of somebody older. Right, And
he doesn't panic. He didn't panic, doesn't panic because he
he didn't rush anything. No. No. The one thing it's funny,
he looks like he just does. He doesn't do it
in spectacular outside. Then he has these dunks, right, yeah,

(05:33):
but that's fantastic. You know this better than me, Dave,
because you were here and you were here and I
was not. When Pete Williams played, I think that he's
a bit more physical specimen than Pete. Pete went out
to rebounds and scored around the basket, right, So he's
a better Pete. Sorry Pete, but he's a better Pete
and more physically gifted.

Speaker 5 (05:54):
Yeah, yeah, I think so too. I think, as far
as you know, maybe a better passer. I don't really
remember remember so much about Pete's passing. I'm sure it
was good because they had some really good teams, but
he looked like a good passer. Like I said before,
he's really played with some poise, which the team in
general played with some poise, especially when they were down
by what eleven or so in the first Yeah, you know,
ten minutes of the game, and I don't know about
what you guys saw, but at least on TV, it's

(06:17):
like Arizona just cranked up the defense.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, they just all of a.

Speaker 5 (06:20):
Sudden, I mean, Florida was going crazy with doing whatever
they wanted and then next thing, you know, they couldn't
get off a shot.

Speaker 2 (06:25):
That was to one's point. I think they were more
physical and that physicalness helped them become a better defender.
They got after after the twelve ten minute mark or
whatever it was, right when they had to come back.
Here's another thing. They won the game without Burry's having
a good game, no, or not being a factor at all,
not at all. And I think he's going to be
more of a factor done.

Speaker 5 (06:42):
Yeah, I mean, if you're gonna get thirty or whatever,
twenty seven from Jayden Bradley and thirty from co that's
you know, that's a lot. But you know, you know,
he can't expect Burris to go oh for whatever he was. Yeah,
and basket and fell and fell out. And how about
Ivan Kharchenkov. Yeah, that was the end of Nod as
a freshman. Ten rebounds, twelve points.

Speaker 2 (07:01):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (07:02):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (07:02):
The dude doesn't look like a freshman, does he? And
he doesn't play like a freshman.

Speaker 6 (07:06):
No, But that for me, there was a bit of
concern on the defensive end. I didn't pay ten some
of those guys that had wide open shots or his
guy get Getty kind of lost watching the ball and
getting lost in this.

Speaker 2 (07:19):
In the screen game, I don't think they played defense
in Europe, but it was something somebody don't watch down
the road. Yeah, okay, that's good. Point is he was good.
He was you know, he was very physical.

Speaker 5 (07:29):
He got banged around a couple of times, ball landed
in some strange places for him.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
So we know, my I think my audience is older
than me, or just about you know, older than j
one our age, David. If they paid any attention and
took notes for all these years, even during Loot's time,
and this was kind of my column throughout did you
read me? Probably not not yet, okay, and we've seen
My point is we've seen this game before. I saw
it a number of times, not just one, not just two,

(07:55):
a number of times where Arizona is either unranked or
under ranked, they play a team like Florida or Georgetown
or somebody, and they show up and they win. I
told you guys last week I would not be surprised
at all. They've done it historically, and I put it
in the story, tell Arizona you can't and they will.
They will and they will well.

Speaker 5 (08:15):
You know, and this is you know what's going to happen.
They were what they were? Were they rank thirteenth or
something like that. So now they're gonna probably go up
to like in the top ten and six, and they're
gonna have a couple of easy games before u c
l A next week, so they'll probably move into the
maybe in the top six next week, and then you know,
then maybe they'll start drifting down. It seems to be
the mo o. That's this program. That is it, that
is it is, But it's you know, you can't complain

(08:36):
about how things started.

Speaker 2 (08:38):
No, No, I beats the alternative, right. Yeah, and let
me say this, there were another three point shot away
from going into overtime and maybe losing the game, right
because those guys just missed the three pointers when they
were right wide open.

Speaker 3 (08:50):
Yeah, that last minute was pretty ugly.

Speaker 2 (08:52):
But I think the I think the absence of Buris
hurt that because you don't want you don't want del
Orso and I don't ball in those situations, right, and
Bury's would be more suited for that. But he was out.

Speaker 3 (09:07):
Yeah, I mean, it was.

Speaker 5 (09:08):
It was Unfortunately we've seen this before, so, I mean
it has happened in the past, but it was pretty
pretty shaky in the last minute or so. Again, put
the pressure on Florida too. To make those shots, and
they didn't make.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
They didn't make them a couple of wide open yes, Hey,
come on, would you ask for a better game game?
That was a great game. That was a great game. Yeah. Yeah.
And for Arizona fans it turned out okay. I did
not turn out okay. This still I think would have
been okay because you showed that, hey, look at this team,
it's going to be pretty good. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:34):
And a lot of people were up there, a lot
of the pilgrimage.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
Was made, big red Army. Well, tell me if I'm wrong.
Sixty forty, Yes, sixty forty Arizona yep. Command Florida for
showing up for that big game obviously defends I would.
I would even go as far to say fifty thirty
twenty with thirty being BYU. Yeah. But then when you
left the game, when you left the game for Arizona

(09:57):
by you owned that state. It was it was you
think Arizona has Vegas covered? B yu has that place cover.

Speaker 3 (10:04):
There's a huge population there.

Speaker 5 (10:05):
Yeah, and again it's basically the same distance from Salt
Lake as it is from Tucson to to Vegas.

Speaker 2 (10:10):
So and that kid, I didn't watch him much there
the freshman as he's pretty damn good.

Speaker 5 (10:17):
Yeah, I didn't see any of it, did you? Did
you stick around? I saw very little of it.

Speaker 6 (10:21):
I saw the warm ups and that that's gonna be
a tough b YU team.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
Yeah, and he's a different he's a different I want
to say, beast, a different item than co. Co is
more of a of a strong power forward. This dude
can He's gonna handle the ball a lot, and he's
more fluid. Yeah, I can't compare him to anybody at all.
He's gonna have the ball in his hand a lot.

Speaker 5 (10:44):
Well, I can't remember if they're coming here. Obviously we'll
play them at least once, so that'll be it'll be fun.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Yeah, yea, So here we go, Game one, one zero.
I mean you want to know?

Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 5 (10:56):
I mean again, a week ago, we were all a
little bit, you know, hesitant to make a prediction.

Speaker 3 (11:01):
There was some trepidation.

Speaker 5 (11:02):
We didn't really know what to expect, and how would
we know what to expect all these freshmen and a
couple of new players.

Speaker 2 (11:08):
Yeah, I did not I did not bet it, but
I would have better. I wanted to take the points
and win the game or possibly win the game, and
they were favored. No, no, Florida was favored by four.
That's it. Yeah, yes, so what YU would you read me?
Apparently you looked like you read me. I read the.

Speaker 6 (11:22):
Headline, that's why, That's why I recognized it. But BYU
Arizona travels to BYU in January twenty sixth and BYU
comes to Tucson February eighteenth.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
Nice.

Speaker 5 (11:35):
That was pretty ugly last year the way that game
ended here. Remember yeah the foul, yeah, mystery foul.

Speaker 2 (11:41):
Yeah. Yeah, So we'll see if Arizona fans could be
better at that too.

Speaker 6 (11:45):
Like you said earlier, Brandon Bury's didn't have this best game.
Dwayne Aristonoa didn't even really play. He didn't six minutes,
had one rebound, one personal foul. So he's he hasn't
even No one knows what he play. Arisot can do.
And even even then, Evan Nelson didn't play well.

Speaker 2 (12:05):
I think you will. You think, well he will just
not in these types of games. Yeah, and just what's
left outside of the the games like next next Friday Night? Right,
these games? And I think give me a list of nine.
I think he played nine. A number of people he
played nine. I believe it was nine nine, So okay,

(12:27):
so eight including anisode yep. So he's got seven. He's
got seven dudes that he's gonna trust, at least right now,
and maybe come March it'll be eight or nine. But
isn't that Tommy's That's what Tommy does.

Speaker 3 (12:42):
He does.

Speaker 5 (12:43):
I mean, there's gonna be that chance, you know, when
Evan Nelson gets in, maybe late in the game, or
when somebody gets foul trouble. If Jaden was fine with that, right,
I don't know. He didn't have too many fouls like
he did in the Saint Mary's game.

Speaker 3 (12:54):
I think it was, but he was. You know, they
just don't need him at this point.

Speaker 5 (12:57):
And if they can continue to get that kind of
production from those seven, you know, how much more do
you need?

Speaker 2 (13:02):
Yeah, I'm not sure. If and you're eighteen, nineteen, twenty
years old, fatigu' is not gonna sit and this is
what you do for a living. Yeah, and you're and
you're good at it. Jayden was fantastic. Nothing changed with
him getting to the basket, hitting those shots, those acrobatic shots,
and we'll see how good Florida really is, you know, true?

Speaker 5 (13:20):
I mean it's a tough conference. We all know that
they're always going to be good. And we're gonna get
a chance to see a couple We'll get to see Alabama.
Who else we gonna see We go see Auburn. Auburn,
so we'll see a couple more SEC like SEC team.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Oh yeah, that conference. But a great basketball set, your
standard type of thing. Season. Arizona could not have could
not have picked a better season to have this type
of team and playing who they're playing.

Speaker 5 (13:42):
Yeah, I mean they're gonna get tested, that's for sure.
You know, those road games are gonna be tough, going
to Yukon, going down to Alabama and stuff.

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Speaker 2 (18:57):
Hey, welcome back to a Ballgail Plox Sports fourteen fifty
Entry Rivera. You're Dave Silvert. You got one at controls Now.
We're just waiting for a here from Bob Bafford to
any second now. Had a big weekend over the weekend,
uh in San Diego or Del Mar So we'll just
wait for a call one keep an eye out for
that and he knows we need him.

Speaker 12 (19:17):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
So we'll talk a little about basketball, a lot about
horse racing with Bob, and again in the second I
we'll talk more about basketball, maybe talk a little about football.
Did you go to any press conferences. Yes, Monday or
Tuesday one? No, no, because I wasn't in. Oh that's right,
you you were on the road. We got a call.
Is this Bob Bafford? Yes, sir, Bob Baffort, you should

(19:37):
be a co host of mine. You're on so often,
you should come and fly in.

Speaker 10 (19:43):
Be there.

Speaker 4 (19:45):
I'm here.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Okay, Okay, I guess you didn't find that funny. Okay,
darn Hey, great week You're right, Bob. So how would
you rate your weekend? You had a winner or two?

Speaker 4 (19:59):
Yeah, I mean you're you know, we're grateful that we
got a couple of wins. But I was, I was
disappointing a little bit. And Friday, I really thought the
Explorer was going to win to do without Philly. She
she didn't get the trip we were hoping for. We
got trapped behind horses and she made she made a
nice rundown down the treap but just couldn't quite the Philly,

(20:22):
couldn't catch the Philly on the lead. But I was
to me, I thought that was going to be one
of my best chances to win one. And uh that
was for all the the Tucson group, the Carboys Jagram Watson,
white Man, peground and stuff. But that was disappointing. In
the Colt race, we just got out run there. The
nice was the thing about the Breeders' Cup. It's just

(20:44):
it's the best horses, the best jockeys and the trainers
and and they're fast and you can't make a mistake,
you know, you have to get the trip. It's so
important you have to break well. And then on Saturday,
uh did we just you know, I was like one
of my Phillies won that. The Philly Murs went really

(21:05):
looked impressive. The one I thought was going to win,
she went a little bit too fast early, but they
were all they're all good Phillies, you know. And uh
and it's amazing when they get and head to head
how competitive they are. And in the big race, we
just we just didn't. We just weren't. That was a
tough race, the Classic. The Japanese horse that won that

(21:28):
was an outstanding field of horses. As a matter of fact,
usually I've won that race with three year olds, or
usually three year olds win that race, but this year
the older horses were better than the three year olds,
you know, which was sort of rare and uh so
and then uh Niso was and Citizen Bull who won
last year. That was that was probably the best race

(21:49):
of the car the day. I mean, they were just
paddling to the end and it was It's sort of
I'm watching this. I know I'm going to win up
of the stread, but I don't know which one. And
I have one owner to the left of me and
the owner on the right of me. So I'm just
sitting there like, Okay, there he goes, you know, and
see what happens there, and so uh and then they

(22:12):
hit the wire. He just couldn't separate him, you know,
and so I was I was sort of hoping for
a dead heat, but the you know, proud that they
showed up and ran because Citizen Bull he was champion
last year and then he went off for him, but
you know, he won his last race and he loves
del Mar and he ran unbelieving he ran so fast

(22:33):
early was incredible and still the and he tried he
was in front of the next jump, you know. But
that Naiso's is a really good horse. I mean, he's
as bout his closest American Pharaoh type of horse that
I've had in a few years. And Uh, you know,
he's going to get better and better. But you know,
he had he had little setbacks and he missed. He

(22:54):
should have been in the Classic, you know. Yeah, but
I missed some time with him and it wasn't to
run him there. But he he ran great. So hopefully
he's gonna go run next year. We'll run the next
year and hopefully he can get back there.

Speaker 2 (23:07):
So you let's talk about about the carboys explored in
and then they're there are other ones scratched in the
juvenile men, right, the boys.

Speaker 4 (23:17):
Yeah, those are great. He uh, he had a little
infection in his in his hind leg that came up
and we had to treat it with antibiotics and and
you can't treat it with anything. You know, if they
have something, he's going to be fine, you know, but uh,
the timing was just bad, you know. So uh, you know, unfortunately,
a lot of a lot of horses they get scrats
or something. You know, it's it's tough. It's the end

(23:39):
of the year, and these horses they're they're you know,
they they're like kids. You know, they get hurt, they
get little cots or something. It's nothing serious, but it's
just it's one of those things. The timing was bad,
but he'll be fine. Though.

Speaker 5 (23:54):
As you look back on your year, you said, you know,
it's kind of the end of the year. You know,
what were some of the highlights and how do you
think things went over?

Speaker 3 (24:00):
Were all for you?

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Well, I mean it's nice to win the uh the
you know of the Reader's Cup races. You know, if
you know, you're just lucky if he can win one,
you know. And so I've gone on there, I've gone
in there, you know, with some nice horses, and you
end up with the donut. That's the worst feeling, you know.
And uh and and I knew that NISO's you know,

(24:23):
I felt he could have won the sprint. He's the
only horse that could have won the sprint and a mile,
he's that good. But he I didn't. I thought when
he came to the top of the scratch, I thought
I was taking a base on balls and putting him
in that race. In that other words, Citizen Bull, you know,
the uh Pratt uh leaving Pratt who rode the winter

(24:44):
Nico's He says, is, uh is are you going to
his Citizen Bull? Are you is he? Are you sending
him is he going? That means is he going to go?
You know, yeah, he's going to lead, he said, And
he came back, he goes, wow, I was close, And
he said jokingly, he says, you told me he was going,
but you didn't tell me he was going. He wasn't

(25:04):
going to stop, you know, he just he just kept
on running. So it was it was. It was a
brilliant horse. It's a shame, you know. It was like
a buzzer beater, you know, getting beat like that. And
I lost last year. I got beat in the mile
the same way by Cody's wish. The last jump just
got me by a note, you know, led the whole

(25:26):
way and got nailed. That's the worst way to when
you're on, you know, to get beat, you know. But
I'm glad there were both of them. There were my horses,
you know. But it is a nice feeling when they
turned for home and you're going like, well, okay, we
got it, we got you know. It's tough, and you
know what it's it's it's it's it's just you know,

(25:48):
you're just so proud of your team and everybody. But
I'd like to get all my owners. I'd love to
get the carboys in there.

Speaker 2 (25:53):
So you've been doing this a long time, but let's
talk about this is there. Sometimes you feel like a
coach and you actually are as a trainer when you
do get beat at the buzzer. But you have twelve
games almost in two days.

Speaker 4 (26:06):
Well, I mean you're you know the ones that I
knew I had, you know, like the uh, the on Friday,
you know that race would Explorer, that was like it
was just it was very upsetting because it was just
I thought, you know, we we you know, should have
won that race. You know, it just we just you know,
it just didn't. He lost his spot going in the

(26:27):
first turn and the winner rode an aggressive ride and
it was like they're playing chickens. Who's gonna give Are
you gonna You're going to lead or are going to
run you into the Yeah, and my my jockey, he hesitated,
he gave in. The other guy took off and and
that's why he won. He it was you know, he
got a great ride. You know, a good horse. They're
all good horses. You cannot make a mistake.

Speaker 13 (26:49):
You know.

Speaker 4 (26:50):
It's just like the playoffs, you know, uh, the play
all the playoffs are tough because it's the best teams,
you know, and so uh you know, but then uh,
just to be able to win a plus I had
my wife had one in the juvenile Philly that didn't
run very well.

Speaker 2 (27:08):
So uh yeah, so as you know, you're you're known
for your style too in terms of getting them out early.
Is is that kind of the reasons. So try to
avoid all the trouble and just get out and run.

Speaker 9 (27:20):
Well.

Speaker 4 (27:21):
I mean, we buy fast horses, you know, I you know,
and and I trained them to you know, to me,
I passed me to win, you know, that's my motto.
And so uh and I'm just like if I was
a basketball coach, fast break that'd be me. Quick huddle football,
that'd be me. You know, It's it's all to me.
It's all about speed. I came from the court horse world,

(27:42):
you know, and Wayne Lucas and that's what we're all about.

Speaker 2 (27:45):
You know, passed me, you got a new new T shirt.
Passed me to win, baby.

Speaker 12 (27:51):
To win.

Speaker 4 (27:51):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (27:51):
It So what do you do?

Speaker 5 (27:54):
I mean, where do you start looking for the horses
that are going to be the great horses, say in
a couple of.

Speaker 3 (27:59):
Years from now.

Speaker 5 (28:00):
Maybe I'm asking this is kind of a novice to
horse racing. But I'm always curious, is the process and
when does that begin?

Speaker 13 (28:06):
Now?

Speaker 5 (28:07):
Are you looking at you know, young horses at this
point to be really good when they're through?

Speaker 4 (28:11):
Yeah, we have young two Yeah, yeah, we have two
year olds. You know, we bought some year LANs last year.
They're being broke and they won't run till next you know,
next spring. But yeah, we're constantly looking for them. And
uh and you know, you know, never know where they're
going to come from. We buy them as year LANs,
two year old somewhere bread. They send them to me,

(28:31):
but it's like, you know, we can't go in the portal.
You know, we can't do that. You know. Well, and
thank god, yeah, but thank god they come into the
portal and get one of mine, you know. But uh,
it's like it's poor coaches. I don't know how to
do it. You know, I wouldn't be able to sleep
at night.

Speaker 2 (28:48):
They'll be asking you, I've got Oh I was gonna
say this, and this is kind of off topic, but
we've talked to you a lot. You've been on the
show a lot, which is grateful to us. Uh, when
you were growing up in nogals as a little kid,
I don't know, maybe ten twelve. Were you destined to
do this or did you have different dreams?

Speaker 4 (29:06):
No, I was. I never even thought about this, there
was I mean, I didn't think about this till I was, Like,
I didn't start training till I was like twenty seven
years old, you know, full time, you know. And so
I just grew up in a ranch and you know,
we had we had that eight farm we had that
we had cattle in being around livestock all my life.

(29:28):
And my father got horses. It was just a hobby
for him, and that I got when I was about
thirteen fourteen, I got hooked on it, you know, on
the horse racing. So but that you know, one of
the winners that owned the Philly that won uh Splendora,
Michael Tella. He grew up in Castle Grande and went
to the U of A. I didn't even know he

(29:49):
went to the u of A U till he started
talking about in the winter circle, like oh we got
another wildcat, two wildcats one, you know, and so so yeah,
he grew up in Castle Grande and I grew up
in New Galasa. Nobody would have thought these you guys
from Arizona were gonna ended up in one of those
big races like that.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
Well, you guys do have the horse racings thing at
u of A. Are you are they having the thing
again in December? Are you going to be back?

Speaker 4 (30:16):
Yeah? They have it to be here Now. I probably
I won't be there this year now I was. I
was there last year.

Speaker 3 (30:21):
The race track management.

Speaker 4 (30:22):
I went in there, so yeah, you're not gonna be Yeah,
they have a symposium. They have a symposium where they
get all the everybody comes in and they how to
how how can they better racing? And you know, it's
it's it's you know, it's it's nice, you know where
the people get together and and uh try to see

(30:43):
how they can improve this sport, you know.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Right, So you're not going to be on the sideline
with Bill cheering on the Cats And what are your
impressions of the big win.

Speaker 4 (30:50):
Over the weekend. My impression are the big wins. I'm
sort of you know a little bit. I'm satisfied that,
you know, I was happy that we we want some.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
And no, no, no, the best the basketball team on
Friday on Saturday, I'm sorry against Florida on Monday, or Monday.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
God, well, I got I gotta be honest with you, man,
I didn't know.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
I didn't.

Speaker 4 (31:16):
I don't follow basketball until they get down to the playoffs.
You know, brother Bill, he's the one he just dedicated
to the basketball team. And but the yeah, I like,
you know, I watched it near the end there, but
the but I mean I heard a lot of good
things that they've got a great basketball team this year.

(31:37):
So that's good.

Speaker 2 (31:40):
Okay, Well, thank you very much, Bob. Appreciate your time
as always.

Speaker 4 (31:45):
Well thanks for having me. And when you call me
that means things are going well, so having anytime.

Speaker 2 (31:52):
Okay, good luck, And I guess the mare is going
to be happening again here in a month or so.

Speaker 4 (31:57):
Yeah. Yeah, we're still running at del Mar. There's still
running every weekend and it never ends, you know, but
we just keep going. But uh, it will be a
little quiet there for a little bit. But then day
after Christmas we start the big meet at ten. He
had all these big races and stuff, and so it
gets going again. You know, we start looking for these
derby horses.

Speaker 2 (32:16):
We'll have White Been buy you a nice steak or
Watson one of those two.

Speaker 4 (32:20):
Yeah, that's right. I need to buy a mistake. All right,
Thank you man, thank you about all right, guys, I.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
Can tell you. I can tell I haven't got much sleep.
Today's Wednesday, right, I'm thinking it's Monday. It's a short week, yeah,
because we you know, we're on the road for two days.
I'm thinking this, this is my Monday on the show.
It's pretty cool we can get like a Hall of
Fame or just to give us a call.

Speaker 3 (32:41):
Yeah, coming like that. I mean, it's one of the
all time greats.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
He's good. He's like we talked about this when we
had him at them with lev.

Speaker 4 (32:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:50):
At one point maybe when he's going in the Triple Crown.
He was on the the Mount Rushmo Rushmore of Trainers
of No Rum Rush, World of you Vague, Oh yeah,
for sure. You know Kerr him at some point. Jenny
fish Finsch, Sean Brown, Elliott, Yeah, Buski, you know, depends
on the offers.

Speaker 3 (33:10):
Jim Furick.

Speaker 2 (33:10):
Jim Furick.

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Right, He's he's in there.

Speaker 5 (33:13):
I you know, obviously great career and uh a great
spokesman for Southern Arizona, No Gallas and the U of
A and that horse racetrack.

Speaker 3 (33:23):
Major you can major in down.

Speaker 4 (33:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
I have a friend who's actually one of my co
hosts back in the day with Mike. His daughter's in
it right now and she's having a great time doing
all this stuff because it's new. It's all new. What
did the Explorer finished? Did you when you looked it up?
Did you finish in the money?

Speaker 4 (33:37):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (33:37):
Sorry, I got to offt the double check on okay
because I didn't see that race. It was it was
it was Friday, and I didn't really I did the
show here and that was it. Let's take a break
away about that time. Anyway, we'll take a break. Come back, baby,
take some calls because I know we have some Dodger fans.
We haven't talked about that yet. Uh Jay, I don't
think Jay's gonna call him, but Vick light Vic calling

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Is that your home.

Speaker 2 (39:02):
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Speaker 4 (39:04):
Found?

Speaker 2 (39:05):
Let us know, Yeah, of course the Dodgers, VIC just
know j all these guys. What a fantastic series. It
was great.

Speaker 4 (39:13):
It was great.

Speaker 5 (39:14):
It seemed like it lasted forever. I know, I mean
it was seven games, but it did. It did in
a different city. I was home, you know, it ended
on a week.

Speaker 2 (39:21):
I don't know, David didn't it didn't because all the
games were back to back to back, right when when one, two,
three in the finals three or whatever?

Speaker 5 (39:29):
Yeah, but I mean there was a day in between those,
you know, the two three two. But it did seem
like it went on for a while. And personally again,
I was like I was home when it started, and
I was on the road when it was going on,
and then it came back and it was still going.

Speaker 2 (39:41):
So it was it was a long, exciting series. Got
a call, Hello, you're and the Aaron on the ball?

Speaker 10 (39:46):
Who is this?

Speaker 12 (39:48):
Hey, Steve?

Speaker 4 (39:48):
This is Don.

Speaker 2 (39:51):
You doing go ahead?

Speaker 4 (39:52):
Don? All right?

Speaker 12 (39:54):
Well, I'm no Dodger found. But that was a really
good series.

Speaker 2 (39:58):
Yes, it was.

Speaker 12 (39:59):
I haven't watch Manajor League Baseball in a while and give.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Me a while. What does that mean?

Speaker 4 (40:07):
It's been years I had.

Speaker 12 (40:10):
I don't really like the the uh analytics style of
baseball where you get.

Speaker 4 (40:15):
A runner on and he just stands there waiting for
the guy behind him.

Speaker 2 (40:18):
To hit a home run. Yeah, no, no, no, I yes,
the reason and Whan looks at me because it's one
of the reasons why we don't type baseball all that.

Speaker 5 (40:24):
But you know, let me let me before you continue.
Let me tell you that Game seven had twenty seven
million viewers. Oh yeah, you know, is that rank or
most since twenty seventeen, most of years? And it was
the average the World Series average fifteen point seven one
million viewers.

Speaker 3 (40:40):
So that's pretty good for baseball, to be honest with you.

Speaker 2 (40:42):
Okay, don go ahead and go with your what you're
going to talk about.

Speaker 4 (40:45):
No, no, what I was.

Speaker 12 (40:47):
What I was going to bring up was Arizona football
having having a good game. They played the game that
they were Yeah, I think that they were supposed to
play on Saturday. They they dominated in all facets. Yeah,
and then and so I'll be down there Saturday. In

(41:07):
my nineteen ninety eight Nike Keith Smith number twelve jersey.
I'll be get the game Saturday, and well because I
fit in it again, so I get to wear my jersey.

Speaker 2 (41:18):
Well, good for you. I mean, yeah, we've been a
little remissing and not congratulating them. They played. Either Colorado's
horrible or Arizona just played out of their mind. Both
can be true.

Speaker 12 (41:31):
I don't know. They they had, they seem to have some.

Speaker 4 (41:33):
Good players, and it just we had answers for everything
that they were trying to do.

Speaker 12 (41:39):
And then Monday night, well that game started and they
go ow saying oh wow, okay, and then they chipped
away and you know, that was a game that they
don't normally play until, you know, after the new year,
where they play a tough game like that usually in
the beginning. And that was one thing that I was
concerned with, was you know, you got freshman from all

(42:03):
over the place, You've got international players, Crebus coming back
from injury, and so.

Speaker 2 (42:11):
No idea what to expect.

Speaker 12 (42:14):
Yeah, well you got and yeah, and for and for
them to hang tough like they did, I mean that
was that was a That was a February.

Speaker 4 (42:23):
March game for Arizona.

Speaker 12 (42:24):
They I mean they that was a tough game and
they they stood tall, you know, Cole Pete was I
don't know, It's just it's it's hard to tell with
all the with with with the with the podcaster type media.
You know, he was as advertised. David said he was great,

(42:45):
But I mean, but they've been saying this whole roster
is going to be great. And then the one that
nobody really talked about as much, Yvonne.

Speaker 2 (42:53):
I think that kid, that guy took a beating Monday night.
But I try to get Bob Elliott on today or tomorrow.
He can't come until Monday because people are talking about
co Pete's effort, which was fantastic. I'm not going to
deny that it was fantastic, but Eric Mundy had a
better freshman debut. We're sort of trying to get Bob

(43:13):
to talk about back.

Speaker 12 (43:14):
In the day stuff that came out on the graphic
during the game, and but then they never even mentioned
Eric money and those and the Kitty kor of Fred Snowden,
so that that was you know, it's you know, for
those of us that have been here and when you
get when you get to talk to Jay, if you
haven't already, you know he's going to bring that up.
You know, it's like there was basketball here before Fred,

(43:37):
before lout and and you know, we have had a
lot of history. But it looks I think the basketball
season looks like it's going to shape up to be
pretty good. I don't expect to see much of anything
during Utah State because Tommy's going to get to still
play with that lineup.

Speaker 2 (43:56):
We don't know what he's going to do.

Speaker 12 (43:58):
And I think a lot of people probably expecting are
going to be expecting a really huge, a wide margin
of victory. But you know, we don't know what they're
gonna They're going to use this game as as possibly
a third exhibition. Yeah, we'll see and and and and
tinkers some more with the team, you know, because this
is the type of game you can do that.

Speaker 5 (44:19):
A little bit of a difference too with the Eric
Money Game, which obviously was great, But listen to this.

Speaker 3 (44:23):
They played the game at Baardown, Jim. It was in
nineteen seventy two.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Their opponents Cal State Bakersfield, not exactly Florida.

Speaker 2 (44:31):
Yeah, so there's that.

Speaker 3 (44:32):
I mean, there was the numbers.

Speaker 5 (44:33):
Does He scored thirty seven points, which is still amazing
for your first game, and that's what he's known for
it and he went on to play in the NBA,
so you know, this is just the start of his career.
But pretty cool, but again much different circumstances. You know,
there was you think there was a camera there. He
was was on the news that night. It was kind
of interesting.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Thanks for calling it.

Speaker 12 (44:53):
If there was a camera there, they had to take
go turn it into film and wait a week to
get the pictures back.

Speaker 4 (44:59):
It was never fun.

Speaker 2 (45:00):
That was always a mystery. It's right, right, thanks, thanks,
thanks for calling me.

Speaker 12 (45:05):
Thanks guys.

Speaker 5 (45:05):
Yeah, those are the doesn't imagine November twenty, nineteen seventy two.

Speaker 3 (45:09):
November twenty ninth.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Yeah, I didn't even know it was a bear down.

Speaker 5 (45:11):
It was a bear down, Jim thirty seven, third most
in a season opener in program history at the time. Yeah,
fourteen of twenty field goals, nine of ten free throws.
And it was also Snowden's first game too.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
Yeah, because that's what because later in that same year
they opened McHale in seventy three.

Speaker 3 (45:26):
Right, right, Billy didn't come for a few mores seventy six.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Yes, yeah, okay, good point, good point for me, But
back then they had those kiddy core guys. They thought
a good freshman. We got another call, hellot, what you're
on the air and I on the ball?

Speaker 4 (45:40):
Hey, hey, Steve and Silver. Yeah, I got a I
got a philosophy that I know Tommy won't use. And
you'll put pool.

Speaker 13 (45:50):
At Steve, and I guess I want to see what
Dave has to say. I think, I think I think Tommy,
if we really lost that game, in my opinion, most
people would you have.

Speaker 4 (46:02):
To use your bench differently. I mean, you just have
to make adjustments.

Speaker 2 (46:07):
Yeah, yeah, right, Okay, what's your point? Is that your point?

Speaker 4 (46:12):
No? No, here's what I'm saying. I'm saying if you was,
he would have made adjustments, and now that you didn't.

Speaker 13 (46:18):
In my opinion, I've said this for twenty five years since,
and loude Olsen did it greatly.

Speaker 4 (46:24):
I'm just telling you Tommy ain't going anywhere in the
Wildcats unless he uses a minimum a minimum of nine players,
you know, in the play, in the in the in
the in the big Dance. Well, yeah, I know what
you're gonna say, Steve, You're gonna go, well, can anyone
else play besides the eight guy? Right? Right?

Speaker 2 (46:45):
Well, and the games get tougher, and the games get
tougher and there's more pressure. Yeah, of course, but but but.

Speaker 4 (46:51):
These guys are they're not at Arizona good. They're at
Arizona good. So I mean, loute Olson, in my opinion.

Speaker 3 (46:58):
I maybe I was watching the wrong bat.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
We're trying to cultivate a couple of these guys that
they're going to be able to go in there for
because there's foul trouble, You're gonna definitely need more people.

Speaker 5 (47:08):
I think Tommy's gonna do the same thing. I mean,
the circumstances the other night was I mean, it was
a tight game pretty much the entire He wanted to win,
and guys filed out, and guys fouled out, so he
did not have to go deep because everyone was playing
pretty well honestly, didn't need to make too many adjustments.

Speaker 3 (47:22):
But you're right there.

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I agree.

Speaker 5 (47:23):
There gonna be days where they're going to have foul
trouble and someone or someone's gonna turn twist and ankle
And did.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
You tell you the truth? Loot didn't go that deep
all the time. No, he didn't. He trusts all coaches trust.

Speaker 4 (47:35):
But but do we have because really with name image
of the likeness, there's really not too many more red
shirt things, is there, unless they're a real project. Well,
because some of the people are just gonna transfer if
you don't play, and they're just going to transfer, so
why red shirt them?

Speaker 2 (47:54):
True? But maybe they won't. Look Bryce, Bryce is not
gonna play much. I think they're gonna rid shirt him. No,
I know, and some of them guys and some of the.

Speaker 4 (48:01):
Guys I don't know, but that length those guys brothers, those.

Speaker 2 (48:04):
Two guys like or not some of the right look
at the kid who went to Look at the kid
who went to play for Josh Stevens. I think, same
kind of player, big dude, but he was a potential dude,
not an immediate play guy.

Speaker 4 (48:21):
Right, But he's the final question. Yeah, what's the guy
that we transferred out that it was really good because
Crevis was down?

Speaker 2 (48:31):
Where did he transfer to his North North Carolina? North
Carolina Henry Henry hen.

Speaker 4 (48:37):
Oh bas okay, okay, we let to check on and see.

Speaker 2 (48:40):
How he does there.

Speaker 4 (48:41):
Well, the A C C is so much worse than
the Big twelve, so he should do okay.

Speaker 2 (48:46):
Yeah, Well see any thanks, thanks, I would see you guys,
did you catch any Yeah, traveling, I got home before
Sean Miller, I got before it was they stay closed
for a while until the last four minutes. I think
Duke's Duke, right, Texas probably has a lot of potential.
I don't know, I don't know. College basketball's be a

(49:07):
lot of fun because there's really no true, true dominant
team yet yet.

Speaker 6 (49:13):
Yeah, but Florda, Florida kind of got there towards the
end of the season.

Speaker 2 (49:16):
Right, and look there was someone has been picked to
finish fourth by the so called experts, and there's no
such thing as experts, and now fourth in this league,
that's going to be unbelievably tough, right, Okay that or
does that mean for the rest of the country, because
you've got to fill people, fill people or teams in
well the rest of the way.

Speaker 5 (49:34):
Fact too, that what Jade Bradley wasn't not selected on
that what that Bob Coosey team the top guards in
the country.

Speaker 2 (49:40):
And you saw his comments right, well, basically they messed up.
I mean, I mean Tommy's comments.

Speaker 3 (49:47):
Are yeah, yeah, so pretty obvious.

Speaker 5 (49:49):
I mean, that's kind of bizarre for a senior guard
who's you know, he's pretty good. He's got to be
one of the top you know five guards probably in
the country, maybe not five, but yeah, one of the
top guards in the country show that list. So he's
got chip on his shoulder supposedly, good kid too. He's
not going to say it, he's not gonna, he's just
gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (50:07):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:07):
Yeah, so he's good. Did he did you talk to
him after the game?

Speaker 2 (50:10):
He was up there. He didn't really say much. State
there isn't say much. You know, my stories are more
about Tommy and maybe a one miner by the guys
because they're very rehearsed.

Speaker 3 (50:18):
Yeah, you know, CoA came out on tn T after
the game and kind of the same thing, kind.

Speaker 5 (50:23):
Of you know, they're not going to say settle. Few
things that were you know of notes, but they're pretty good.
He's got to be one of the top you know
five guards probably in the country, maybe not five, but
one of the top guards in the country should be
on that list.

Speaker 3 (50:36):
So he's got chip on his shoulder supposedly.

Speaker 2 (50:39):
Yeah, good kid too. He's not going to say it,
he's not gonna, he's just gonna do it.

Speaker 4 (50:43):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
Yeah, so he's good. Did he did you talk to
him after the game.

Speaker 2 (50:46):
He was up there. He didn't really say much. State
there is no't say much. You know, my stories are
more about Tommy and maybe a one miner by the
guys because they're very rehearsed.

Speaker 3 (50:54):
Yeah, you CoA came out on tn T after the
game and kind of the same thing.

Speaker 5 (50:58):
Kind of know they're not going to say settle few
things that were you know of note, but otherwise it
was your basic post.

Speaker 2 (51:06):
Yeah, and what good is that for you and me
in our world?

Speaker 5 (51:09):
And but you know, again, he's a kid's this is
his freshman season. Yeah, he's gonna have to learn how
to do better. One of those kind of things we
don't come with time. We long and I need to
do that if they get to the pros to Yeah,
no question, that's why I think that they should do
that for football. That'll make people more interested in who
they are, right and go get to know them, good
to see them and go pay to see them at
the games.

Speaker 2 (51:29):
I don't know what the hell do I know?

Speaker 5 (51:31):
No, I you know we're old and we that's we
all just miss those days where that was the access
and that was what we had a chance to do.
And it's kind of what made our jobs, you know,
more fun as we could get these crazy stories just
because we had a chance to talk to them, you know, individually.

Speaker 6 (51:43):
I wish that we could go, okay, to that point
of they don't really say anything. I think that's a
good thing for this team because obviously it's a great win.
But yeah, we have any of them done. Yeah, I
mean you gotta be humble, yeah, right, yeah, And I
think that's a good thing that they recognize.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
That good point.

Speaker 6 (52:03):
They haven't won anything big twelve wise. Yeah, they got
to the three sixteen, they got bounced, haven't made it
past sweet sixteen, and Arizona hasn't been to a final four.

Speaker 2 (52:13):
And yeah, before I was born, So right, right, Okay,
are we good? Now, let's go come back, you can
get breaking news. Cool, let's go