Hour 1- October 29, Delaina Stenchever

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
I'm Steve Rivera. You got diva blake eager here? Come on, man,
don't call me a diva.

Speaker 4 (00:24):
I'll say, don't laugh it, We'll say on time. That's
why because I laughed, because you're on time. I'm not
eagerly waiting today.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
I obviously forgot that this thing was stuck in the
microphone and I pulled it out and I had it
turned up all the way and it was like, so
that's great, good way to start the show off. Guys, good,
good to see you.

Speaker 5 (00:44):
Bake.

Speaker 6 (00:44):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
Uh you rusty from last week? I asked for a reason.
I don't know everybody tell you not everybody, you know,
my my callers, my friends.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
Oh, the Dodgers were rusty. That's why they lost Game one.
They hadn't played You dude, play every day. But there's
you listen, No, there's no rus No, there's no rush factor.
There's no rush factor there. Yes, that's not an argument.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
I don't believe when I hear people say that, oh
there's no shut up.

Speaker 1 (01:08):
No, there's no rush they do this.

Speaker 3 (01:10):
You you haven't done this for a week. Are you
a little rusty talking on the radio?

Speaker 1 (01:13):
Okay, then start talking about Boba Schett coming back and
having two at bats. You very much now, I mean
like there's no Russ factor though they're never for a week.
Do we want to just jump straight into the World Series?

Speaker 2 (01:26):
Is that?

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Let me tell you that we have Delaana uh stunt
Shaver here at fifteen talk about the Derby Derby I'm
sure readers cup. Yeah, she's out in La covering that
for us, my former intern. And at four seventeen we're
gonna talk to Eric Roads, Eric Roa, Yeah about the
big event tomorrow. Yeah, ute event luncheon, Yeah, luncheon, Ryan
or Locker right right, thank you. So we'll get to
that when we get to that. Yeah, the Derby, the

(01:51):
Derby World Series.

Speaker 1 (01:52):
I mean, come fantastic. How do you can you not
love baseball? So we asked this question yesterday, Blake, and
you would you wouldn't know this helped top your head
before Monday night's game. What was the previous game that
you first thing that you said, best game World Cheries
game ever for you? Oh, Game seven Chicago Cups twenty sixteen,
I had something I had a for you. Yeah, I

(02:14):
said the same thing. That was one of my first
World Series I ever watched. Yeah, I mean, you've got
Cleveland and you've got Chicago playing each other. I mean haven't.
I mean, I don't think Cleveland won World Series since
what was it sixty one years? And Cubs in it
when World takes for over one hundred years, so and
to do it in Chicago and and and that team, Yeah,
it's I mean my dad and I went to two games,
so you know, it's it was pretty important. Where were you?

(02:36):
Where were you? We're in Cleveland? No, No, I was
in Tucson. Okay, Yeah I was in Tucson. Okay, Yeah,
mine was seventy five Boston. Since Yeah, I mean you
can't I mean another series is yeah. Yeah, there's so
many memorable moment moments from that. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
Okay, so now what about this game this? I had
the Toronto. I still have Toronto. I know you took Toronto.

Speaker 1 (02:56):
I think I said I just wanted seven seven and
seven seven games? Would you say? Six one I said five.
You said Dodgers in five, right, Yeah, so now they
get a chance. You got to go back to Toronto.
That Blue Jay's lineup is gaining so much respect from
me about the way they I think it was. You know,
one of the things about Vegas is just about casual betty.

(03:16):
People who do that don't know enough about the teams.
Yeah they don't. They're just all, okay, I'll take this
team that does you know. And a lot of people
are Dodgers fans.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Yeah, so and the right away they think, oh, I'll
just take the Dodgers and you know whatever.

Speaker 1 (03:28):
It doesn't work that way, no, I mean, but from
the outside looking in, right, you know, that's part. And
you forget that Toronto had a better record during the season,
and they did a good article on the Dodgers about
they don't really care about the regular season because they
know they're most likely going to either win it or
they're going to get a wild card, but mostly win
the West. They really prepare for October that they have
and they've done a great job, like they're healthy. Toronto's

(03:51):
banged up. I just want to go back to the
eighteen inning game. You know, we saw each other at
the Uba basketball game. Yeah. My wife and I get
home and we're like, okay, what about twelve for you
when you got home? Yeah, somewhere I think eleven.

Speaker 3 (04:03):
Okay, we were watching it in the twelfth right in
the press comment.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Yeah, I think we left a little late. We think
the game ended around the eleventh. In Yeah, the band's
basketball conference went till about I think the start of
the thirteen maybe, yeah.

Speaker 1 (04:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (04:18):
I finished my story at the sixteenth and drop for
another hour. I drove home and they were still going.
I mean, eighteen innings. Man, It's it's wild. It's what
the craziest thing to me. And I think we had
this conversation, I think either last week or the week before,
because we were talking about is there another athlete right
now in professional sports like Otani?

Speaker 1 (04:36):
And there's not. I mean there's you know, Lebron in
his prime maybe, but like you're walking Otani. He's on
base nine times, yeah, nine times, and you're walking him
to face two other Hall of famers. Yeah, not just
all stars. Bets is a shoe and Hall of Famer
Freeman is a shoe in Hall of Fame. The funny
think about last night was when they pitched him. I

(04:57):
thought they were just going to say take the base.
We don't want to. You know, they went after him.
They went after him, and they got him and they
got him.

Speaker 3 (05:02):
Yeah, I thought they Well, now that you bring up
that point from last week or whatever in my time,
Muhammad Ali, Yeah, Michael Joanchael Jordan, you know, burn magic,
those areas when they were playing each other, especially right,
and they changed the NBA from what it was to
what it is now. I think, and I'm sure people
before me and your your pops, probably Chamberlain, Louwell Cinders, Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

(05:27):
And now I'll tell and he's got this baby face,
let's just have fun.

Speaker 1 (05:31):
Type of thing. I mean, he just is happy to
be there. Yeah, you know, I mean he's like after
the game, he was like, I want to go home
and go to bed till I get ready to pitch one.
I think that was all business. All of us wanted
to go to bed at that point. Yeah, eighteen innings.
I told I told my wife that, I said, if
Toronto wins, the city's going to get the day off
because it's far into the morning for them and then
they end up losing. So do you hear about what

(05:51):
was happening in I think Tokyo. Oh the watch party
for Otani.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
Well not even the watch party. So kids at school
started their school day when the game began and got
to watch it through their entire school day.

Speaker 1 (06:02):
Oh yeah, that's what's the difference. About twelve hours ahead,
so I'm not sure. Whatever, Yeah, you have to look
that up. It was probably about seven to whatever. Let's
talk about that really quick, right, Yamamoto goes complete game.
Guy goes complete game, sticks around after the game to
pick up all the trash out of the dugout. He
stays there, he's got arms full of trash. He's cleaning

(06:23):
the dugout. He just threw a complete game. Cg and
then it almost it almost was gonna pitch again. And
then two days later goes to Roberts and says, I'm good.
I can pitch in this game. It was gonna either
be him or Rojas. A position player like that is
mind boggling if you and I and I'm not I
hope I'm not stepping out of my arm here. But
when you're a parent with a young athlete in any sport,

(06:45):
I do think you should look at Japanese youth athletes
maybe not, you know, training twelve hours a day, but
the way they approached the game is so respectful.

Speaker 3 (06:53):
It's it's well, it's funny because you did bring that
up maybe about a month ago, just randomly brought it up,
that that's what they do. They work out, that's your job.

Speaker 1 (07:01):
Yeah, they got to choose a sport when they're about
I would say probably eight to nine. Yeah, and that's
what they do every single day.

Speaker 3 (07:07):
And then that could be if there's not already an
influx of international players from there coming in.

Speaker 1 (07:12):
I mean, the gates are barely open with what you're
going to see in the next five to ten years
out of Japan. Yeah, but you know, that's kind of
the Euros are now. I mean the basketball it's a job.

Speaker 3 (07:22):
It's a job, and then that's just what they do
and their kids and they play and they go to school.

Speaker 1 (07:25):
I guess, like whatever, but yeah, Arizona has a few
of those. I mean you're looking at like Joker after
they win the NBA Championship and they're like, hey, the
barades in two days is like I got to get home.
I got horses. Like he's like, this is It's good.
I'm glad, happy, like now let's move on.

Speaker 3 (07:44):
It's funny because Tommy was ahead of well I'm sure
other coaches were too, But I remember talking to Luke.
This had to be nineteen ninety one, ninety two. They're
maybe even a little later than that, maybe ninety five
when when they played Cincinnati and Huggins was the coach there,
and he spent a lot of time in Europe coaching
doing these clinics, right, Nike guys, go out there, teacher,

(08:06):
and he said, you know what is this gonna It's
gonna happen soon.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
He said, these guys are.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Gonna come in and take over the college world. It
took a little while, but yeah, because they're little kids. Then, yeah,
you seeing that at the prespense of the turn right,
I mean you look at some of those early euro
guys that came over. Those guys were what six eight
sixt seven, but they played like point guards and that
was before that game changed. Well, look at your guy Wimby. Yeah,

(08:31):
dude's just seven foot forward guard.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
Yeah, Hamble will never see I don't think you'll ever
see that again. I think that's he'll be a one
to know. I mean, I one brought that up is
maybe a player to look at. I don't think he's
at that level because he's not the best player in
the NBA yet, but he will be. But I think, yeah,
I mean, I don't know how you're not at that
point if he can stay healthy, of course. Yeah, but
you're watching, like I just I just want to hit

(08:53):
it on again. Like there's twenty last twenty seven innings
of the World Series as includes that there's been one
double play. I know one, Yeah, and it was in
the last night, right eighth last night. Like, it's that's unbelievable.
And you're watching these guys in October always has Oh
what's the reason. I mean, fly ball hitting teams, right,
I mean, especially from a Dodgers, you're your launch, your

(09:15):
launch angle and all that stuff. But I just I think,
I mean, they're busting their butts. They know it's on
the line. You're seeing guys beat out plays at first.
It's just it's it's it's you couldn't ask for a
better baseball. I mean, the playoffs were unbelievable. Now the
World Series has lived up to the hype. Yeah, no question.
I think that to your point and a great point
that people overlook Toronto because Toronto. What.

Speaker 3 (09:37):
Yeah, who they're in the they're in the playoffs. Yeah,
here they are. Remember I liked the best. I liked
them because they played Seattle right before. Yeah, and they crab.
These guys could probably give the Dodger pitching some run
for their money, given that the Dodging picture. Dodgers pitchers
were you know, aligned for a while, but they're no
longer aligned. Everyone's healthy, Yeah, everybody still if you can

(09:59):
and no, your philosophy, like your body pitching and overcomes. Yeah,
especially in playoffs, but but you got sometimes sometimes not.
You gotta score runs and sometimes it's in bunches, right,
I mean you're looking at that nating last night. I mean,
look at Donders the same way.

Speaker 1 (10:14):
Right. So it's interesting to me though, when we're talking
about the World Series expect especially You're you're looking at
like one said, Tokyo, right. Then you're looking at watch
parties in Tokyo or in Japan and how many people
are there. And then you're looking at the Rogers Center
last night. I mean it looks sold out for their
watch party for the Blue Jays. The fact that baseball

(10:36):
has regionally is still incredible to me, right, And I
think we can learn something from that for other things
like having watched parties here for our local sports. I mean,
I definitely think that that's something that needs to change.
You want to generate money, and you said, Okay, the
UBA is somewhere or at the big, big, big twig tournament.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
You don't think they can get five thousand people at
ten dollars a pop or whatever five bucks a pome.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
That is your Yeah, I mean, we just I think
we need like that idea. I think we better looking
at trends of what's happening around and how we can
mimic them, even if they're on a smaller level. But
let's think outside the box a little bit. No, I
like that. I like that thinking because it's it could happen. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:15):
Absolutely, the thing is about is and you're coming from
an event today and I don't want to say where
or what, but people have been doing the same thing forever.
It's not how we do it. It's not what we've
been doing. So they poo poo it right away because
it's different.

Speaker 1 (11:30):
Yeah, it's not maybe in their in their purview, not
in their you know, in their area of expertise. And
sometimes it's hard to ask for help, right. I mean,
I had this conversation and meeting today at lunch and
I said, listen, my job is to get people in
the same room together and be the dumbest person to
the table, and that way. It really should be that way,
because I want experts that are better than I'll ever

(11:51):
be in those areas to lead the way and then
to develop youth, so the youth learns from the expert
and then they Now it's a cyclical effect.

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Well, it's funny because just when when Cooper Flag yeah,
played his game with the NBA, his mom, I guess,
gave him some advice. You and what that advice was,
if you're the best player in the room, you're in
the wrong room.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, especially in the NBA.

Speaker 3 (12:11):
Left to your point, yeah, you know you don't get
and I've said this, you don't get better by beating
up on people.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
You also don't get better when there's no competition, right, yeah,
you don't.

Speaker 3 (12:18):
You got to get your butt whipped every now and again.

Speaker 1 (12:20):
I've never heard the slogan complacency create success and innovation
like that's never been said, right Yeah, Yeah, So I
mean we'll see we've got we've solved the world's problems
in first ten and twelve. Yeah, I guess I'm done here.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
I'll see it's yeah, you're not that good now, got
about two minutes sixteen hour difference talking about earlier between
Okyo and Los Angeles.

Speaker 3 (12:44):
Yeah, those kids, it's like, you don't, I don't. You
probably didn't go through this, but I don't know if
you did either, but I know I did. When the
substitute teacher came in and they bought the TV to
watch whatever movie it was, because I'm out, Yeah, you
just watched it, says whatever whatever you watched.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
That's what these.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Kids know what it was for me. Uh the Pac
Trof Tournament. That was a huge thing in middle school. Yeah,
so they'd bring it out. We used to have the
same thing. You cancel a day just to watch Arizona
because Arizona would always have the early game because they're
usually that first seed. So it's it gets till eleven
o'clock here in third fourth period and theater says, all right,
time to time to watch Arizona.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh that's kind of cool. That's a story. That's funny.
I think I told you guys this. My dad every year,
still do this day. We still celebrated, but he would
always take opening to a baseball He would take me
out of school and we would just watch games. Well, yeah,
so that was always a tradition. My son's sick today. Sorry, yeah,
I mean I don't. Yeah, it's fine. What you're learning? Yeah? Wait?

(13:42):
Really what am I getting out of this day? Let's
be honest. I'm not very smart? So you meat again? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (13:46):
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Speaker 4 (13:48):
Have you heard about this Brad Paisley curse? So every
time he's sung the national anthem, it's gone to extra innings.
In twenty and seven teen he went to eleven innings
in the game. Who came three in twenty eighteen? I
went to eighteen eightys Game one in last year went
to ten innings and then came three eighteen innings this.

Speaker 3 (14:07):
Year waiting what's whatever? His songs give me a title?
Not waiting on a woman?

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Look at me one? You brought it up? I want
to know his song?

Speaker 4 (14:16):
Yeah, he's I know one song by Brad Paisley, What
is behind the Clouds? And it was because because I
was in the Cars movie.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
Okay, well he's the one that's gone fishing or my
dog my best friend left me I'm really gonna miss
the dog.

Speaker 1 (14:27):
My truck's breaking down. I think he was a little
bit more well known in that space. Yeah right, yeah,
but that's a cutry song. I do like country, though.

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Don't make me sing the national anthem because.

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Steve Rivera, He's got his eye on the ball on
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Come back to I am the ball here Fox Sports
fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. Blake Eagers right here, and
so is one and now we have Delena Stinchever. How
are you.

Speaker 6 (19:21):
I'm good. How are you guys?

Speaker 1 (19:23):
I'm okay.

Speaker 3 (19:23):
Delena as A as a our full disclosure. She used
to be my intern, one of my favorite interns, because
one is gonna cry if I say you are my
favorite intern. But now she's with fan Duel and doing
really well in the horse racing business.

Speaker 6 (19:40):
Yeah, we got one of our biggest weekends coming up
this weekend with Breeders Cup. I just actually drove down
to Delmar today and it's it's gonna be a fantastic weekend,
great weather, great horses, and fourteen championship races across two days.

Speaker 3 (19:53):
I was gonna go, but I saw you there last year,
so that was enough.

Speaker 1 (19:57):
That was enough for me.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
But untill because I gotta go to Vegas on Monday,
so a lot of horses. We had Badford on last week.
I don't know if you listened, uh, but he's always.

Speaker 6 (20:05):
I did not get a chance to listen, but I
have been watching his horses work and he's he's definitely
loaded this year. He's got quite a few horses running.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
Do you think that she was listening to your show?
I mean, do you think that she listens to your show?
A smart woman. She she knows better. Come on, she's
got better things to do. That one is coming to
a horse racing. Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 6 (20:23):
Well he's doing I'm kind of at the center of it,
so that's okay.

Speaker 3 (20:27):
You're closer to that fourteen I think you said fourteen horses.

Speaker 1 (20:31):
Unless something's happened.

Speaker 6 (20:34):
Desert Gate scratched earlier this week. Unfortunately, he comes a
bit of a infection. They say he's going to be fine.
He's going to go on to run as a three
year old, so all all good things there, Uh, the
juvenile Right now, I believe he still has two entered
Brandt being the second choice in there behind Ted Nafi.

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Brandt is currently undefeated and he's run both of his
races at Delmar. He was a winner, lasted out in
the Grade one Delmar Futurity beating Desert Gate. So that
kind of gives you a little bit of a clue
as to maybe who he is. He's now He's currently
five to two odds. Ted Naffi, who is also undefeated

(21:17):
in three starts, is coming into your four to five
even money favorite.

Speaker 3 (21:21):
He talked about those because the Desert Gate Horses is
a locally owned it's from the tuc Sun guys.

Speaker 6 (21:28):
Correct, they are locally owned. And that same ownership group
also owns Nevada Beach who's running in the Breeders Cup
Classic on Saturday, and his odds are about twenty to one.

Speaker 1 (21:36):
Right that, and journalism is running as well.

Speaker 6 (21:40):
Journalism is running, and the key thing with the Classic
this week is sovereignty are six to five favorite scratched,
and unfortunately he got a fever Monday afternoon. They gave
him some medication for it, and it respiked yesterday afternoon
about three o'clock. So he's currently out of the Breeders
Cub Classic. He's been scratched for health reasons and they're

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going to ship back to Kentucky on Monday or Tuesday
and reevaluate him and see what's next for him next year.
But it's a big scratch. He was our six to
five favorite, and so we've had a new morning line released.
In Our current morning line favorite is the one horse
Fierce Sniffs, who's currently five to two. He won the
specific classic here actually back Labor Day weekend, beating Journalism,

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who ran second, and Journalism's original morning line odds were
about ten to one, and he's since been cut in
half the five to one with the scratch of Sovereignty,
which is huge because every time he's run against Sovereignty,
he's run second.

Speaker 3 (22:36):
Because you grew up around horses, how do horses get
sick or fever?

Speaker 6 (22:42):
You know, it's just like people that you know, sometimes
you just sniff something wrong or they get something in
the air, whether others are stick around you. Other horses,
they have a sniffles or ready nose. It's just like
how kids get sick you touch something you're not supposed
to do or.

Speaker 10 (23:00):
Wrong.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
They're just they're big animals. They're gonna do what they're
gonna do. Sometimes things just happen. It's unfortunate timing. But
the great news is it's something that he can very
easily recover from and it's not going to end his
racing career.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
I'm going to ask a question, So, how did you
get from the internship with Steve to where you're at? Now?
Take us through that road and how it happened this story.

Speaker 6 (23:21):
That's a great question. And Steve loves this question because
he's the reason I got here. So when I finished
my internship with Steve, he happened to know the.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Questions start at the beginning beginning, because how did I
find you?

Speaker 8 (23:38):
Oh?

Speaker 6 (23:38):
So when I Okay, So the very beginning when I
applied for the internship is that it was one of
the internship theres to the journalism school and I went
to interview with him, and on my resume in my
cover letter, I had put that I was a horse
racing fan. I had been watching horse racing. I'd gone
to the races, I understood the gambling aspect of it,
and I have written horses and been around horses. I
competed and I to say when I was in college.

(24:01):
So that's what stood out on my resume, and that
was part of the reason I got the internship, is
because Steve liked that we could talk about horse racing,
and that's all we did during my interview was we
talked about horse racing, what I like and horses, how
we looked at horses at the track, and we looked
at them on paper, and it just kind of went
from there. I ended up working at Rito for their
first season back after COVID in their production room, doing

(24:21):
their cybulcast graphics and doing some on air stuff for
their paddock show and doing some ecology stuff there. And
so then at the end of my internship, now that
we've fast forwarded about six months, Steve happened to know
the head of the press, the pressing communications here at
Delmar gave me his contact information. I reached out to

(24:42):
him and I worked at Delmar the summer of twenty
twenty two after I graduated, and I happened to be
at the right place at the right time, on the
backside talking to a trainer one morning about a job,
and he introduced me to Britney Rton, who now is
a full time reporter with NBC and does all the
big NBC shows for horse racing, and she at the
time was working full time for TDG. What's now scandal

(25:04):
didn't interview. Somebody important saw it and said they wanted
me to come work for them, and so here I
am at Sandel now working in horse racing full time.

Speaker 1 (25:12):
That's an incredible story. It's probably the first internship interview too,
that there was a bookie involved, right, Steve did you.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Were a bookie involved for over one hundred years to
that on a parime tool there needed because.

Speaker 3 (25:29):
I watched horses and kind of Kevin, I asked her
for philosophy one of the things. And you could tell
because we have good ones with Ray and we have
with want this business itself and not kind of going
off the chart here. Uh, this business is not a
shy business. You can't you can't do well and be
a shoutout. And I think I've told her a few times.
I tell on this and Ray and everybody else was
on it. You can be really good at it, but

(25:50):
if you're shy, you're probably not going to be good
in the business and dealing.

Speaker 6 (25:54):
Now, you definitely have to have a bit of a
personality and a voice and speak up and be willing
to take heat for said controversial opinions that you might have,
and then when they turn out to be correct, you
just wait for people to go, huh, maybe they're smarter
than they look.

Speaker 3 (26:08):
Well, here's the thing too, because when Jay was my
partner all a full time, I mean, there wasn't a day.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
That they fought all the time. Sure we did, So
you know there's that. I feel like Jay's very combative
the way you speak about him, so is he.

Speaker 6 (26:25):
I mean it kind of depends on the topic. He
just doesn't like to be wrong, and then when you
prove him wrong, he's like, well I was kind of right.

Speaker 1 (26:32):
I'm like anywhere, that's so funny. Is that accurate? Okay,
that's pretty accurate. So uh so, leading up to the
Breeders Cup, with where you're at, what's your day to
day operations look like right now?

Speaker 6 (26:44):
So my day to day operations have been a little
different as far as scandals. Day to day operations We've
had the Breakfast at the Breeders Cup for the last week,
so we have been down at del Mar on site
at various tracks across the country, seeing horses put in
their final prep works for the Breeders Cup, interview trainers
and jockeys, and getting the insight on these horses and
exclusive content so we know everything there is to know

(27:07):
about these horses come race time. So we are Wednesday,
Friday is Juveniles and then Saturday is our big championship
day for older horses. Our last day at the Breakfast's
Breeders Cup is tomorrow, so that'll be a wrap up
of horses jogging and galloping out on the track, stretching
their legs, or one last real chance to talk to
trainers about how they think their horses are doing coming

(27:27):
into racing. So all that's super important. And then my
other role on top of doing Breeders Cup stuff right
now is actually managing our Inshow contracts and making sure
that the Insho deliverables are being executed on air. So
I have been up at the Fandel studios taking care
of that this morning before I drove down here, and
then actually last week I was on site reporting at

(27:47):
Standinita Friday and Saturday on top of everything else. So
definitely lots of busy stuff. No two days are alike,
but that's I think what makes it the most amount
of fun is every day is different.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
So this is a question to both you, you and
Blake here because everyone knows I'm not a fan of
a sports fan, but I kind of am. You know,
It's just I've seen too much I've gone. So I
went to the British Cup. It was one of my
bucket list things I would last year. Enjoyed it, But
you get there, it's more of a made for TV
thing because you can see another thing when you're actually
there as a reporter or you know, watching it's not

(28:18):
as glamorous as.

Speaker 1 (28:19):
You think it is.

Speaker 3 (28:19):
So d for you, you were you wanted to be in
this world right and do this job. Has it been
not overwhelming or whatever? But it's different than you thought
it would be. Right And to your point to you, Blake,
you became this pro baseball player and the journey was
probably very tough to get to the point.

Speaker 1 (28:37):
And you're here and you're thinking it's not what I
thought it would be. Does that make sense? Sure?

Speaker 6 (28:42):
So I think it's somewhe of what I thought it
would be and somewhat not. There's definitely a lot more
behind the scenes in grindwork than what appears on TV.
It's very much an event for TV. It's a lot
of spectacle, it's a lot of glitz and glam. What
Breeders Cup is we're highlighting horses from across the world,

(29:03):
from like sixty some odd different nations that are represented
here at Breeders Cup, and so there's lots of representation.
You get a lot of crossover of a lot of people.
But as far as like the day to day work
a Breeders Cup, it's a hard grind. They are long days,
there are hard days. Luckily, my time with the Arizona
football team has prepared me for this. I was ready

(29:24):
for eighteen hour days. But as far as the work
with the horsemen and the horses, it's exactly what I
thought it would be. It's having conversations with people, it's
talking about the horses and their well being. It's humanizing
the sport. It's putting the horses first, and it's just
educating the general public, which is something that I'm very
passionate about in horse racing. There's a lot of controversy

(29:45):
out there of you know, is it safe to race
these horses? What are we doing to protect them? And
there's so much misinformation out there that it's really nice
to see correct educational stuff being made to help fix that.
So that's exactly so it's exactly what I thought it
was going to be, as well as not if that
answers your question, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
I'm probably the wrong person to ask in this sense,
because I mean, I didn't have a pitching coach until
I got to Pro Bowl, so it was everything I
could have dreamed of and more, and I love the
grind of every day, But I mean transitioning to the
coaching side is probably more like what D's saying, right,
it's just a grinds of constant grind you don't think about.
You think about just all that happens on the field,

(30:27):
and not all the stuff that happens off the field,
But it's just as much of stuff as that happens
off the field and is on field.

Speaker 3 (30:32):
And you would never how can I say this, You
wouldn't change your path to say it ever, and I'm
sure she wouldn't either.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
But I don't want to go back and relive it.
Is that weird? How do you feel about that? Would
you want to go go back to the start of
it and relive it?

Speaker 6 (30:47):
I don't know. I don't necessarily think I would change
anything that's happened, because everything's happened to get me to
where I am now. But to an extent, I don't
necessarily want to go back and keep doing the grimy
work for other people and acting as a personal assistant
when I'm capable of so much more. I've definitely been

(31:08):
given a lot more responsibility in the last six months
to a year, and I love that grind, and I
love taking on more projects and bigger projects. And you know,
I love being at the tracks. I love working with
the horsemen. I love creating relationships with the jockeys and
the trainers and just their love and showing their love
for the horse. That is the biggest thing. And I

(31:28):
don't think it's advertising enough.

Speaker 3 (31:31):
Yeah, okay, so let's get back to the horse racing itself.
We talked about the classic Saturday's events or races. Are
you going to be much more than to than Fridays?
But still good races on Fridays. Give me a highlight
or two on Friday.

Speaker 6 (31:46):
Yeah, so Friday will be highlighted by the Juvenile, which
will be a mile and a sixteenth on the dirt.
So a lot of this is two year old male
colts trying two turns for the first time. And the
really interesting thing about this is is we have two horses,
one West Coast representative, one East Coast representative, both undefeated.

(32:07):
He got Baffert with Branch, who's a three million dollar purchase,
which is an absurd amount of money to spend on anything,
let alone a race horse. And then you have Ted Naffi,
who is your four to five favorite. He's tried intrude
around three turns. He ran a best speed figure two
ago in the Hopeful, and then the Breeders Seuturity he
ran a ninety seven buyer, which is a high figure

(32:29):
for any horse to run, let alone a two year
old around two turns for the first time. As far
as other horses to look at in the Juvenile, the
one in Trepido, who was actually supplemented to this race
for one hundred thousand dollars, which means he wasn't originally
a Breeders Cup nominated horse. So when a horse is
a weanling or a yearlyan. You can nominate them for

(32:50):
various races, whether it be Crown races or Breeders' Cup races.
And they didn't originally do that with in Trepido. So
the really cool thing is the ownership found the money
after he won a Grade one American Pharaoh back at
the beginning of October to get him into this race.

Speaker 3 (33:07):
It's crazy. Yeah, it's wild, it's crazy. So this is
the three year olds for the Derby. Yeah, you know
the best two year olds. Yeah, Tucson had the horse
in there. They just took him out with white men
and Watson and guys so they could be back. I
mean they could have a chance to win the Derby
here in Yeah.

Speaker 6 (33:23):
Absolutely. These are all horses that we're getting previous for
what next year's Kentucky Derby could look like. Now, the
thing with this with this juvenile field is it is
unfortunately the smallest juvenile field we've ever had in Breeders
Cup history because we also had a scratch of the
five Civil Liberty again. Unfortunately got an infection. He's gonna
be okay. They put him on antibotics. We'll see him

(33:44):
again as a three year old, but I mean it's
still stacked with absolutely stacked with competition. Bob Bafford also
has a six litmus test in here, who ran third
in the American Pharaoh behind I'm Sorry, ran third in
the Breeders Cup Futurity. This was a horse that he
actually sent out to Kentucky to run rather than running
him in the American Pharaoh because he already had two

(34:04):
or three horses running in the American Pharaoh race. I
actually got to see this horse work two times before
coming down to Delmar, and his last work was in
company with one of Baffert's two year old Phillies named
Bottle of Rouge, who was the Delmar Debutante winner and
litmus test looked like he was running off his feet.
He looked on the muscle a little aggressive, not towards

(34:27):
Bottle of Rouge, just aggressive, and how he was eating
up ground and wanted to go more faster, sooner. So
really really excited to see how he runs. Given how
he's taken a step forward in each of.

Speaker 1 (34:36):
His races, It's a lot to take in.

Speaker 3 (34:39):
And it's like, are you know how to read a
racing for him? No, It's it's like you look at it,
and'll I even begin I.

Speaker 1 (34:45):
Was going to I was going to talk about that
with Dee because we end up going to Churchill Downs
a couple of years ago in Keenland and we got
to experience they had an auction at Keenland which was
unbelievable and then they were actually running at Churchill Downs.
But it was you know, growing up a rito. I
mean we didn't I didn't get bet very often. I
would maybe give somebody a dollars. Yeah, but actually reading
a race sheet is pretty impressive and people that can

(35:07):
do it.

Speaker 6 (35:07):
So yeah, there's there's a lot of information crammed into
past performances. There's definitely a lot to look at. I
definitely focused in on a couple of things when I'm
when I'm initially looking at a race, and then each
time I go back and look at it again, I'll
look at new information. Just to try to help separate
some of these horses, especially two year old, when a
lot of them only have two maybe three starts under

(35:27):
their belt, they can look really similar on paper. That's
why it's super often that we have the breakfast at
the Breeders' Cup Show to go and look at their
works firsthand, so we can see how they're doing in
the moment after some of their initial races.

Speaker 3 (35:39):
So here's the key that I don't know. And d
knows this because when she was here, I would ask her.
And I still don't know because they have the shows
right and you can see the form and I don't.
I know how to read the forum, and I have
my things that I look at on the form, but
I don't know what makes a good horse a good
looking horse and what doesn't. It's like one of her,
one of her colleagues, she's really good. She's in the

(36:00):
East Coast and I'll do this all the time because
she sees horses and she's this, this horse is not
lathering up or whatever. I can't remember the terms, and
I'm thinking, what what? And she's pretty good accurate in
picking horses. So that's the Yeah.

Speaker 6 (36:13):
Annie Vancone's been on fire this past Teama meet with
Paddick picks for horses. She's been at the Breakfast Show.
She's actually got a horse running Friday named Lenny lu
in the Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf Sprint. Unfortunately, she drew
the twelve hole, so she's gonna have to overcome that,
but she's extremely fast. She ran third actually a Royal
asket this past summer. So it's been very exciting to

(36:33):
watch the band coned family go from Florida to England
and at Royal Ascot and then now out here at
Del mar So. And Andy's been getting on her every morning,
and she's been super great at picking out horses on
the track of who looks good and being a horsewoman
and being around horse racing as much as she has,
she knows what a good racehorse should look like. I
am definitely still in the process of developing what I

(36:55):
believe a good racehorse looks like, and that can look
a little different to everyone I know. For a racehorse,
when I'm looking at them, I look at their walk.
I want a horse with a very swinging walk, where
their hind end reaches almost to the point where they
look like they're going to touch their front feet when
they're walking. I like horses that are a little bit
on the heavier side. I don't like them super light,

(37:16):
but I like them very fit sprinters. You typically see
them with a big old booty on them where they
should have muscle definition still, but they shouldn't look fat.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
You know you want proportional, no no comment on any
of this. I got plenty, Baby, I'll save said I
want to stay on the air.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
Yeah, Hey D, thanks a bunch, Thanks D as usual.

Speaker 6 (37:41):
You guys are so welcome.

Speaker 1 (37:42):
All right, we'll talk to you soon. Yeah. See what,
I don't know what a good looking horse?

Speaker 3 (37:47):
Now I have to look at their hind legs and
their booties, and they're just give me a fast horse.
Just give me a fast horse.

Speaker 1 (37:53):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (37:53):
It's kind of like before yesterday's game with the show. Hey,
everybody was already giving the Dodgers the game. Why because
he was pitching right.

Speaker 1 (38:01):
Yeah, but that's a tough one to give away after
he just went was on base nine times the night before.

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Yeah, but you know what I'm saying, Yeah, the general
public is saying, oh, Dodger's got this ye show.

Speaker 1 (38:11):
Hey, who's pitching you? Who's no snow? Snow? Okay snow?
I mean, come on, yeah, what are you? You're rolling
out thoroughbreds, they're rolling out million dollars. I mean these
are the all every horse that they roll out as
a horse that should read and when breeders go, who's
who's Toronto pitching? The young kid that only made four starts.

(38:31):
You don't even know what right, I mean, he started
in high A I think and done either.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
Look and people would couldn't give you the name, but
these guys all have the names.

Speaker 1 (38:40):
I'm still liking Toronto. I just like the I like
the grit that they show, right. But getting back to
d really quick. I mean, that's probably one of the
sports that I'm least knowledgeable about. It is horse racing.
I enjoy going to the track, but I really don't
know how to look at a horse or pick a horse.
But when does a horse become an older horse? After
three years old? So they still have races at four

(39:01):
they just have to be in bed by what four thirty? Yes,
they get early at three and if.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
You're lucky enough, you go to study and you get
paid a lot of money.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
Yeah, yeah, that was a crazy thing when we were
at Neiland for the Kilan. Yeah, Kielan, sorry, thank you
for correcting me on that. Watching the auction, right, you're
seeing a horse man sold for fifteen thousand dollars and
the next horse is selling for one point seven million dollars. Yeah,
it is wild, it's crazy. That's a lot of money.
It's a rich man's sport. Maybe not a lot of
racehorses come out of Arizona, though, which was a little

(39:30):
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and the history that you have with Bafforn here right, Okay,
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The controls here do you want to call? Five?

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Two zero four one, six seventy four forty good to
touch base with d. We didn't really tell you about
words racing, but she did. I just listened. What do
you want me to I can is there saddles? That's
what I can bring to the conversation. I'm glad you
didn't chime in when she was describing horses, so you know, yeah,
I kept those comments to myself. Yeah good, Yeah good.

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I was gonna ask her, what body type you think
we are?

Speaker 1 (44:17):
Old? Yeah, it would have been out the pasture, is
what she would have said. Yeah, not runners.

Speaker 3 (44:22):
So that's Friday and Saturday at your local TV unless
you get TVG whatever.

Speaker 1 (44:28):
It was fun. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 3 (44:30):
I was gonna go this year, like I said, but
I said that I've already experienced it.

Speaker 1 (44:32):
I don't need to go again. Yeah, let's delve into
a little bit. Because I was I was questioning what
you were. I was in questioning. I wanted to question.
I wanted to ask you a question about the experience.
Wasn't it didn't know your expectations? No, because I didn't know.
You know, well, first of all, it was in San Diego. Right,
everything's expensive.

Speaker 3 (44:47):
I'm not working for anybody, so it's on my dime,
not that that matters, but yeah, I now needed to
experience it because the only thing I have left on
my bucket list is the Derby, because I've done pretty
much everything else. So I went to this. It was
on for two days, ran it to Baffort there. You know,
he's like the mayor of del Mar. Oh, yeah, it
should be.

Speaker 1 (45:07):
It was.

Speaker 3 (45:07):
It was just cool because he wanted to do it.
Great weather. Yeah, would I do it again? Yes, maybe
not this weekend. They'll be back ten years, five years, whatever.
How well do you know Baffort and the Bafford family,
the bill pretty well? Yeah, Bob Moore, I went to
do stories on the family, the dad and the mom

(45:28):
when they had the ranch down.

Speaker 1 (45:30):
And yeah, that just sold. So they passed away a
few years ago. So yeah, and the ranch just got
sold this year. I think. Yeah, so just kind of
like that. And then I'm into horse racing. Everybody know that.
What do you think because it's such a polarizing thing.
I mean, I don't think this is one thing we
don't recognize people from my community enough. People know Bob Baffort,
you know, adjacently. But I don't know if we we

(45:52):
really put him on the pedestal that should be Tucson
Sports or Southern Arizona.

Speaker 3 (45:56):
Well, well he obviously you know what happened to him recently. Yeah,
but you know ten years ago when he was winning
uh triple crowns, blah blah blah. Come on, give me
a bigger name out there that was bigger than his.
I'll give you the Mount rushmore right back then it
was it was Jenny uh, Jenny Finch, right, Steve Kerr,

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Bob Bafford, and maybe if he was I can't remember
what he was doing. But Terry Francona, there's a point
there when Sean Elliott was was out there doing that.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Trevor Hoffman, Trevor Hall of Famers, Right, famers should be
on the month. Trevor Hoffman.

Speaker 3 (46:32):
I mean you have you have the Titty Brewskies now, yes,
doing so you know theron Yeah, grunk. So give me
the people we put o there. Who's on the who's
on the Mount Rush?

Speaker 1 (46:42):
Yeah, and that's you you're talking about. Just I mean,
he was not he's not the he's not the actual
he's a trainer, or started as a trainer. Now he
oversees I'm sure a whole thing is. But what's what
separates him, because you know him personally, what separates him?
I don't know, do you know that? Like, what's the
difference to him? No, because you've been doing No, I
don't know. I don't know that world enough. Especially just

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think about this though. It's not just that world, right,
it's understanding that world to a point that nobody else does.
But then able to have a business mindset to now
I mean obviously profit at a very large scale. I
don't know, couldn't answer that. Yeah, it's like you.

Speaker 3 (47:16):
I mean you found your way to become who you were,
and you were an a major leader. But you did
things that most people would dream to do. Right, So
you had something in you. What's the secret? Maybe you
have talent, Maybe you had wherewithal, maybe you had great determination.
We'll get lucky and that's part. And then you learn
from people that are in a position she described her
job right, Yeah, had she not gotten to see me

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or I could get a crap about whatever was on
a resume, Yeah, it wouldn't have happened.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, if you weren't down too grand from your buckie,
there's no shot that you hired right now. But what
you did for her and to jumpstart her career, she's
not here without you. And you know she said, you know,
I don't want to eat poop the rest of my life,
but you have to. You have to cut your teeth
on those things not fun. And that's what you and
I talked to Huan. You gotta do it, and you
got it because that's just how we all did it.

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You've got to be super uncomfortable and you've got to
kind of hate your life at times and said, what
decisions did this? Yeah? You mean? And then you had
to be honest with you. Is this what I want
to do? Do I love this enough that I can
do this? And if you don't, then you've got to
chose something. I don't you would know this one.

Speaker 3 (48:15):
I think we talk about this there now and again,
let's say one hundred thousand or ten thousand graduates this
last year. I'm sure that's not the number, but give
you a round number. How many actually end up in
their own profession that they went to school for.

Speaker 1 (48:28):
Oh yeah, that's a that's actually a great question to
ask Steve on the national average. I was, I mean,
you've got some specific ones that obviously stay in that field,
the medical field, obviously engineering. Yeah, but I mean, I mean,
I'm not getting paid for this, and that's my background.
But I'm glad that you brought me back in. But
I was never going to go back to broadcasting or

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or journalism.

Speaker 3 (48:49):
Right, you wouldn't happen to know what you it's it's
very I'm sure it's thirty percent or so. Yeah, because
either they become insurance agents or whatever.

Speaker 1 (48:58):
We take it. I take it for what it's worth. Right.
College might not be the you're what you're studying. College
might not end up being your career going to a
trade school, right, I mean, go to something that you're
passionate about, that you feel like can can direct your
life in a different way. The one thing I will
say about college, just for me is where I kind
of grew up. I had to live on my own,
I had to do those things out. I lived in Iowa,

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I lived in Colorado, I lived in different places. I
saw the different like if you can experience that, and
no knock to want by any means. But I told
young athletes, like you really need to get outside of
your hometown, Like you should get away and see.

Speaker 3 (49:31):
Really we've talked, We've told he knows this too.

Speaker 1 (49:33):
Yeah, but I just mean when you have that opportunity,
and then if you don't enjoy that support, you can
always go back to the U of A. Yeah, you
can always go back to Pima. But go out there
and see what the rest of the world has to offer.
If you have the ability to write same thing in
a trade school, if that's really what you're passionate about,
do it, Like who cares with the today? You have
to be passionate about it. So, but getting back to Bafford,
the question I have is why don't we have why
isn't there a statue of him erected on campus? Like

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why why aren't we celebrating him more than what we
do even from a local cold stand? Yeah, good question.
Why aren't we having Bafford watch parties for the Breeders Cup, Like, so, well.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
You can't we kind of well, they because that's it's
not that world. But you know, when they had really
to open, Yeah, during these times people would and and
when he was going for the Triple crown with with Pharaoh. Yeah,
and and real real pharaoh, and and.

Speaker 1 (50:22):
The other one.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
God, I should know this justify there was. There was
a lot of parties going on Rolito when he was
going for the triple crown. So yeah, they had that,
but it was you know, it was a watch party
slash gambling day because you could bet three other races.

Speaker 1 (50:36):
But you can still do that. I mean everything's done
on your phone now, right, Yeah you could.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
I'm sure people some people do. I'm sure that the
white men's and them they get together. But to your point, yes,
there should there should be.

Speaker 1 (50:46):
There should be, I just recognition of people that have
come from our community that are the highest i mean
level of success that you possibly can get to.

Speaker 3 (50:52):
Yeah, well i'll give you one that just happened kind
of and and she's in TV and yeah.

Speaker 1 (50:58):
I know it's ridiculous, so that.

Speaker 3 (51:00):
You know you saw that, Okay, Sean. Sean doesn't like
that stuff, so he doesn't tell anybody comes into town.
You know what I'm saying. Kerr doesn't want any part
of it because you know, he started too busy, and
you know it's he's he's he's self effacing and don't please,
don't you know he's like one of those guys. Yeah, no,
I've had enough recognition, don't don't bother.

Speaker 1 (51:20):
But I just think telling the story of those people,
and you've had this guy usually thousands of times off air,
and I think we're trying to do something different with
that and change that perspective. But we do a really
bad job. We do a really bad job of recognizing
people that come from our community. Well, we hope to
change it. Maybe I gotta go up to that break