Hour 2- November 6, Chip Hale

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me is Jay John. Now we have Ray with breaking news.

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This is I on the Ball, Breaking news on Fox
Sports fourteen to fifty.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
All right, breaking news.

Speaker 4 (00:30):
Big one last night was the volleyball team beating number
twenty one BYU here in Michelle. They won three to
one overall. Well, they won the match three to one overall.
I think they dropped that second set. That's where the
b YU got that one. But yeah, I'm pretty sure
all the sets were closed.

Speaker 3 (00:48):
They've they've been like really up and down. They've beaten
some teams right in the ranked and then the fall. Yeah,
two certain teams.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah, they're on a two game streak or two match streak.
I'm sorry though, you call that moment? Yeah, why not?
It's two ranked teams, You're not like one? Then? Yeah,
I stick to my guns. You can't change me.

Speaker 4 (01:10):
But yeah, they will be playing Texas Tech tomorrow at
eleven a m in Michael.

Speaker 2 (01:15):
It's field trip day, So I imagine there's gonna be
some kids day.

Speaker 4 (01:18):
And so if you want to go catch that, it
will be against Textas Tech at eleven. A big one
tonight is the women's basketball team is set to tip
off their official season. Uh, you know, all the pre
all the exhibitions are out the way, and so Riverside
U see Riverside will begin at six that is tonight,
and that will also be in mchael Center.

Speaker 2 (01:37):
Have you met her? I have not.

Speaker 5 (01:40):
Yeah, I know that Julie Brosie hargrovers there.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
Yes, it's gonna be a little slight climb here with
this program, given the situation.

Speaker 4 (01:50):
And that's all right, you know what I mean. It's
Rome wasn't built in a day keeping it going though?
What did you take today? Well they call her bag
the builder man Utah Tech. Well sorry, the men's basketball
team will be facing Utah Tech tomorrow at seven pm.

Speaker 2 (02:08):
Uh Utah Tech.

Speaker 4 (02:09):
I mean it's gonna be on TNT Sports No Florida.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Yeah, I guess not.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
How did you handle these games? You played from this
you know, peak of games to a not peaker game.

Speaker 5 (02:21):
Well, you're still looking for overall improvement and growth, right,
and you're still you know you.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
You know in that in that game the other day,
I mean.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
You started three freshmen and one came off the bench,
you know, so you know you you've got a lot
of growth.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
It needs to be playing.

Speaker 5 (02:36):
And I think you kind of saw a little bit
and how coach Lloyd from the Saint Mary's exhibition to
the exhibition against Emory Riddle. You know, you just make
you changed up the minutes. You had everybody some time
to play and time to get some actual game reps.
So you're not saying anything away from Utah Tech, you know,
because you still have a young team.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
You got to perform.

Speaker 5 (02:57):
And I don't know how good that team is, but
you know, none less, you're going to try to get
growth from your roster within your roster.

Speaker 4 (03:04):
Yeah, Like I said, that one will be tipping off
at seven pm Mountain Standard time if you want to
catch that one. The other big game of the weekend
is going to be the football team. They have their
homecoming game against Kansas. It's going to be at one thirty.
It's gonna be on ESPN two, so national broadcast kind
of will.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
Have the Ricky Hudley or the Hundley huddle at ten
o'clock Saturday. All right, you'll be here.

Speaker 4 (03:29):
I will be up bright and early and here.

Speaker 5 (03:33):
You're friends with I just I didn't really get to
know him at all. I think he wasn't after you
o ay, of the years that I was here, he's goofy,
he's goofy.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
Wow. He's a good guy. Yeah, well of a player.

Speaker 5 (03:46):
And you know, having personality is a good thing for
kids to be able to for the coach kids of
seeing coaching.

Speaker 4 (03:52):
Sure he does have that, Yeah, without a doubt. The
softball team will be having a I believe an exhibition
game of I don't know if it's official or not,
but they will be playing PEMA at Hill and Brands
Stadium at six pm tomorrow if you want to go
catch some softball and little off the beaten path. But
the beach volleyball team is going to the a vc

(04:16):
A Fall Collegiate Beach Championships. That's gonna be in Huntsville, Alabama,
and that's gonna be running through tomorrow to Sunday onto
some more national stuff. The TCU starting center Malik Diallo
towards a cl so he's going to be out for
the season. Big blow for the horn Frogs. A little

(04:39):
bit of a well not a little bit. This is
actually a really tragic story. The Cowboys defensive end Marshawn
Neeland died or passed away in an apparent suicide. He
was only twenty four. It was just going off the
story from ESPN. It was following a police chase and

(04:59):
then they that I guess he had evaded troopers from
and that happened last night at ten thirty nine pm.
And once they found him, he had a self inflicted
gunshot wound.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Yeah, he had been going through a mental issue or something. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:15):
Yeah, that's kind of that's kind of saying. It is
very sad, and it just happened last night.

Speaker 4 (05:21):
Yeah, a lot of people woke up to that, and
I mean it's crazy because I mean, you think about
it Monday, he's he had just scored a touchdown r yeah,
even agoin though the NFL will be having Thursday Night
football tonight. It is the Raiders against the Broncos. That
will be at six fifteen pm. Yeah, it's on Prime video.

(05:42):
So if you have YouTube TV, you'll you'll be all right.
If you got pride.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Oh, because you can't watch it.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
Yeah. Actually, well this's has just been a it's been
blacked out. Yeah, it's been a whole best.

Speaker 4 (05:55):
The Clippers, oh sorry, Phoenix Suns are hosting the La Clippers.
That's gonna be at seven pm. The Suns are favorites
by two and a half. That's an interesting one. This
was one that I was keeping my eye on last night. Well,
the game that I was watching. The Lakers beat Juan's
Spurs last night one eighteen to one sixteen, made a

(06:18):
late run in the fourth to take the lead and
hold on to it.

Speaker 3 (06:22):
Ayden, I played woman Yama.

Speaker 4 (06:25):
It looked like and uh Luca had a great game too,
I mean at thirty five obviously a couple boards as
well and some assists.

Speaker 2 (06:32):
He had a double double. When was your last year
at Oregon State two thousand and eight?

Speaker 3 (06:37):
Okay, okay, yeah, so uh yeah yeah, Eaton had just
come through in twenty seventeen, so you were long gone,
DeAndre Ayton?

Speaker 2 (06:48):
Oh wait yeah yeah, yeah, long gone. Yeah. The Warriors
lost last night to the Kings.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
Nobody played for them, I don't think, Yeah, no, they did.
They had a lot of people missing. No Jimmy Butler
from what I can see. No, Steph don't see Draymond either.

Speaker 3 (07:04):
Yeah, there's.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
A cold or something. I don't know, but sure about
the other ones.

Speaker 3 (07:09):
Yeah, Like so I guess, uh, here's where the the
time management or what do you call it? The management
starts to play, starts to play.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Yeah, this early in the season, So why it doesn't
start telling? What do you think about that?

Speaker 5 (07:25):
I'm speechless, you know. The the Uh, what I don't
know from the from the league is how salaries really
and truly did escalate, okay from what it was like
in the nineties, And so I don't know. I don't
really have against the difference, but I do what I
do know from from the nineties on is you just
saw the kids never stopped playing basketball, and and so

(07:50):
you your body, you know, wearing terrors kind of like
you know in college running backs being run out of
the league before they get to the NFL, and you
have short careers and the bandwidth of making money real
you know, crazy money is shortened, and so you know,
I in some ways I shrugged my shoulders because you know,

(08:10):
the players have leverage. The rules are with the rules,
and sure and if you're good enough, you know, I
anything else will be better than your problems. Then then
we're going to have you around. We're going to work
with it. Sure, you know, better than your problems.

Speaker 3 (08:23):
Yeah, Well, in college, high school, all you want to
do is play. Right, in college, what do you want
to do? All you want to do is play? Then
you get to play, and then you're in the pros. Okay,
I'll well.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
It doesn't member.

Speaker 5 (08:34):
It's different in the game, right, And so the load
management typically to me, I've always felt, you know, is
for the teams that are going to be winning.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
You hear about that, because we got to say it.

Speaker 5 (08:44):
It's a long it's a long season, it definitely is.
And then the teams the best players on the crumming
teams after the All Star break, you know, all of
a sudden, you know, it's like we're going to shut
her down, you know type of thing. And it's just
but I can't in many ways, if you're that good
and you have that bit of leverage, well I would
like to play longer and make that money.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
Yeah, we'll. Leverage is the right word I think, because
you can kind of call your shots now.

Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
Yeah, interesting stuff. I will wrap it up with this one.
This is for shout out to Matt Moreno for retweeting.
This comes from Rivals High School j Serrah Catholic from California.
It's south of LA, but it's like in between LA
and San Diego. They are set to pay their next
head coach two hundred thousand dollars. They officially high school

(09:33):
high school. They officially posted this head coaching position on
November two. And you know, obviously very very sought after.

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Is this for football?

Speaker 5 (09:43):
Yes, so this is this is definitely the we're going
after modern day.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (09:48):
Well, let me tell you something. If it was basketball said,
can I be your sister? Get that resume ready?

Speaker 5 (09:53):
No, it's a it's a fabulous campus. I mean it's
it's beautiful and I'm sure that that just as people
kept moving down Orange County towards I don't know, Orange
County starts in North County and San Diego Stars because
you're kind of getting close to carlsback.

Speaker 2 (10:08):
But it's nice. Two hundred thousand dollars may not be enough. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
Yeah.

Speaker 5 (10:13):
At the same time, too, it makes you wonder what
some of the coaches in Texas are getting.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
Yeah, you know, for for for high school.

Speaker 4 (10:20):
For even those like you know, like you said, modern days,
Saint John Bosco's all that stuff.

Speaker 3 (10:25):
You gotta win, baby, if you're gonna win and get
a payl I guess.

Speaker 2 (10:28):
I guess. So anything else now that's it for me.

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Hey Welcome back to Why I on the Ball here
on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera in with
me today. Jay John now on the phone. We have
you a baseball coach, Chip Hal Chip.

Speaker 11 (15:38):
How you doing good, guys? How you all doing?

Speaker 2 (15:41):
We're doing fun?

Speaker 3 (15:43):
Well? You sound great. You know what baseball season is
not started for you? You get some time. You sound great.
Let me ask you a quick question. How long have
you been back from the pros and all that stuff.
You've been like four years now?

Speaker 11 (15:56):
Uh? Yeah, we've been here four years. Okay, this will
be our fifth So.

Speaker 3 (16:00):
Let me throw this out you because I have Jay
in front of me. He's back now after a long
stint in the college world. What was the first thing
you wanted to do and where you wanted to eat
when you got back?

Speaker 11 (16:11):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (16:11):
You know, because I.

Speaker 11 (16:13):
Remember we we we've lived here this whole time, so
we we've always been.

Speaker 2 (16:17):
Here in the off season.

Speaker 11 (16:18):
So okay, you know my favorite I love to go
to VIVACEI, So whenever I get a chance, that's where
we go.

Speaker 5 (16:24):
Okay, Jay, Uh, Well for me it was it's you know,
I went to high school with a buddy Mike cole
Quest and he's been running restaurants, so he has Alterrero.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
So it was kind of going back.

Speaker 5 (16:34):
That's coming back now too, going back to see him
and going to have some of the best Mexican food
in the world.

Speaker 3 (16:41):
Okay on Arizona. Okay, So do you enjoyed? Did you
enjoy the World Series like everybody else did?

Speaker 11 (16:48):
I did.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
I thought it was great.

Speaker 11 (16:49):
You know, I didn't think it was gonna be a
great series if someone had asked me, I thought it
was the Dodgers.

Speaker 12 (16:55):
And five and.

Speaker 11 (16:57):
It turned out to be really, really good, and I
actually thought the Blue Jays probably outplayed him.

Speaker 12 (17:04):
But again, it just it was amazing how that went
in Game seven.

Speaker 5 (17:09):
There's no tout about that, because you got you got
two people look like they're gonna run over each other,
and and uh, you know, and and how many times
does the ball just trickle out with two dead guys
in the field, and you know he catches it, and
you know, not not to mention that, you know, you've
got you've got to pinch runner who goes in because
he's fast. And then on the ground ball that almost

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you know, takes out the second basement.

Speaker 2 (17:33):
He's not he gets thrown that at home. I mean, this's.

Speaker 11 (17:35):
And I I agree it was.

Speaker 3 (17:37):
It was amazing.

Speaker 11 (17:38):
I think, you know, I think Dave Roberts deserves a
lot of credit.

Speaker 12 (17:43):
You know, over the years he's you know, early on,
he got a lot of you know, a lot of
criticism for things he.

Speaker 11 (17:50):
Did by taking pictures out and yadayada. But he really stuck,
stuck to his his guns and use his gut and
it made some really good moves into that game. And
one of them was putting pigs out there to play center,
because that was not you know, if Tommy Edwards out there,
those two guys were hit and you would have been right, Jay,

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they would have been probably laying there still.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
I thought, I thought they lost the I thought Toronto
lost the game in Game six. U just flutey type
of things. And who better knows about flutie stuff than
than you coach, right, given, and then we'll go back there.
But the ball that got stuck in the wall?

Speaker 12 (18:26):
Uh right?

Speaker 3 (18:27):
How many times that happened in a lifetime, And that
happened and for you just last season, the little checks
hits that you know landed right on the other side
of the line.

Speaker 11 (18:38):
You know, just just a guy, Yeah, yeah, it's it's hard,
and that's that's that's the game of inches and it's amazing.
But I always say when especially for us, you know,
if you're talking about in Omaha, it's you know, they
put the ball in play. And that's one thing that
we saw this year majorly baseball and college baseball is
just too much striking out. So I give credit to

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those teams and do a good job of battling with
two strikes and just putting the battle on the ball
and good things happen. We had a long discussion here
the other day because exti velocity is such an important
thing to everybody. Now, hey he's got one hundred and ten,
he hits the ball one hundred and fifteen. But if
you look at numbers, and we had a we had
a bunch of Mookie bets, uh, Freddy Free. We took

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a lot of numbers, and what we found was, you know,
we're all trying to hit the ball on the launch
angle of five to fifty, you know, to to twenty
five degrees.

Speaker 12 (19:29):
That's basically a load to high line drive.

Speaker 11 (19:32):
That's what we're We've been trying to do that since
the start of time.

Speaker 12 (19:35):
Even when I played, we wanted to hit line drives.

Speaker 11 (19:38):
So five to twenty five. The higher your exit velocity
is at those different launch angles, the better chance the
ball gets caught. So what you really want to do
is you want to lessen your your extit velocity when
you hit line drives. Isn't that interesting because the ball
actually falls in?

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Interesting?

Speaker 11 (19:56):
Luky Loky had a way better average a lower extra
velocity all year, So super interesting stuff.

Speaker 5 (20:04):
Yeah, let me ask you a question, a tip, you know,
just kind of there's there's some chat to talk about
the twenty nineteen Nationals of which you were you were
a coach on the team. And then you know, in
this case the Dodgers, you know, going down, going on
the road, down three to two, and so.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
As a coaching staff.

Speaker 5 (20:24):
And again these are pros, right is I got what
a college coach would do. You know, you'd have your kids,
But these are pros. I mean, is there is there
a playbook of talk? How do you communicate to the
guys or the guys know what they're doing? I mean
how hard is that to do? And where does managerial
decisions and coaching fit into that? Or is just players
making plays?

Speaker 11 (20:45):
Yeah? I think that it's Obviously the players have to
make plays, obviously, but I think what you know, our
theory was, and and Dave Martinez did a really good
job of this, is we tried every game that we
played from the time we were struggling to the time
we won the World say, was just to go one
and O that day, Right, we hear that all the time.
What's that mean? Well, it really means just playing every pitch,

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you know, and not worrying about what happened before, what's
going to happen after. And when you come into a
situation like the Dodgers or we were going back to
Houston in nineteen is we were forced into that in
game six because it was you know, win or go home,
where the other team sometimes it's like, okay, you know,

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we still have tomorrow. So I always say that with
the team that wins game six, in my opinion, you
got a way better chance of winning game seven because
the momentum just shifts so heavily on for you and
you're used to that.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
You know that last you have.

Speaker 11 (21:43):
To win it or you're gone, And we do. Those
guys that we had in nineteen were really veteran pros
and they knew how to handle the pressure, which is
which is really hard. I mean, you know, Jerry Stive
is a good friend of mine and coached me in college,
and we talked about performance the other day and he
goes with Chippy, goes performance. You know, what, how do

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you get performance? You have you know, you have the ability.
These kids have all this ability and you minus all
the distractions that they have, interference in their lives, interference
in their mind, and that's what their performance is. So
you have potential minus interference equals performance. And what those

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guys did in nineteen and what the Dodgers players is
they just got rid of all the interference and so
they played the best they could play. I mean, you know,
a guy hits.

Speaker 12 (22:36):
A home run in uh the other night.

Speaker 11 (22:39):
They had got a hint for thirty five days or so, right,
I mean that's against the closer.

Speaker 12 (22:43):
I mean, that's that's amazing.

Speaker 11 (22:45):
That's amazing stuff.

Speaker 4 (22:47):
Hey, coach, So I was just wondering, you know, the
Blue Jays had kind of a bad run with extra
ending games. Obviously had one against the Mariners, and then
they have that marathon against the Dodgers and then you
know through game six where it's like the whole ball
got stuck in the wall thing and you go into uh,
extra innings for Game seven, like what what's do.

Speaker 2 (23:08):
You do you think?

Speaker 4 (23:09):
Like, what do you think their mentality is, like in
the sense of do you think they're feeling like here
we go again, like we won't be able to pull
it out.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Kind of thing.

Speaker 11 (23:16):
Well, I mean, in reality, you're probably right. I mean
there's probably some of that creeping into your mind. And
that's that's where you know, the more veteran guys you have,
the springers, those guys like that have to have to
you know, kind of step up and say, hey, instead
of let's you know, instead of trying to hit a
home run here, you know, let's get on base. And
and they did that. You know, they had the opportunities.
I think that was was it's so hard to deal

(23:39):
with when it's all over. But you're exactly right. I mean,
as a coach and and and the pro they'll tell you, oh, no, no, no,
that doesn't But in reality, I think that does start
to creep in because that's the hardest thing, and with
any team is when you get in those situations where
you you don't have success in extra innings. Yeah, that
that's always gonna happen, and it's hard, you know that

(24:01):
have your closer and everybody didn't line up perfect, and
that guy to hit the home run, that's tough to
come back from.

Speaker 3 (24:07):
So both of you guys, to you and Jay Chip,
what did you guys get your degree in? And I'm
saying this because I want to ask. Nowadays coaches have
to be more than coaches, almost like collegists.

Speaker 11 (24:17):
Well, if I had to do it all over again,
and I knew I was gonna do what I've done
all these years, I would have tried to do that
being into sports psychology because I think we Jay would
tell you the same thing. We we you know, he
miss majored in it, but we've got another degree in
it by now. But I wish I would have done that.

(24:37):
But I was a finance and real estate. I had
two degrees out of the Business college here.

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Yeah, and when I went to when I went to school,
I knew at that particular time it was the idea
of getting at high school teaching job. And people said,
don't go into you know, the coaches were always in
pe or social studies, and you want to get a job.
So I was at a biology major at you of A.
And then they they also offered a coaching minor because
I knew I wanted to coach. So we got some

(25:04):
of that stuff, but probably more value out of the
coaching mining was some of the the you know, things
about the body and just training and those types of
things that took more of it than actually psychology and chip.

Speaker 3 (25:15):
You've been in this business and we just talked about
this with Jay, but in more than thirty years, right,
coaching and teaching and stuff like that. So give me
your first year in how you handled it to now
in terms of handling the kids.

Speaker 11 (25:29):
I mean from when I managed, I went I came
out a plane in ninety eight was my last year.
So I started managing with them with the Diamondbacks. My
first year was two thousand. I was in Missoula, Montana.
And the difference from then to now is patients, patian

(25:50):
station patients, and you know, just learning how to deal
with different you know, type of people you know, and
now that was a great thing about doing.

Speaker 12 (26:02):
The pro deal is you're talking about.

Speaker 11 (26:04):
Language differences, You're talking about you know, all those things,
and so that was a good lesson for me. But
definitely just patients.

Speaker 12 (26:13):
And I've always felt.

Speaker 11 (26:14):
Like from day one, I've I've realized how hard especially
just it's so hard. You know, baseball is such a
hard game. And I try to try to always tell
our assistants and young kids like, hey man, just remember
how hard this was when when.

Speaker 5 (26:27):
You get frustrated, coach for you well, well, I think
from the patients perspective, certainly, I think that's always been
a part of being a teacher, you know, working with
young people no choice as they kind of you know,
because a young person, how do you handle conflict and
stuff like that. And I do think that that, you know,
the screaming piece that's that's never going to work. And

(26:50):
so it's like the patients pieces in there, and and uh,
you know when the kids have more access to information
today too, so you know.

Speaker 2 (26:57):
There there's more of the you know, why coach? Why coach?
Why coach?

Speaker 5 (27:00):
And so I do think as coaches, you know, you
definitely have to know your why and communicate that so
that the kids maybe can realize that your needs have
to fit within the umbrella or the envelope of what
this program's about. And and you know, but I do
think we all have to repeat it as coaches, you know,
kind of like his parents should, repleating the same thing
over and over again.

Speaker 3 (27:20):
So, Chip, you had a great season last year. Uh,
then I'll use your word momentum. Is there is there
a way to can you know, bottle that up and
move forward with it?

Speaker 11 (27:30):
Well? I think yeah. As a program and with our
alumni donors, all those things I think we've had. You know,
people are are are excited about this next year and
what we can do. You know, we lost nine guys
to the draft, so you know, some of that.

Speaker 12 (27:44):
Momentum gets you have to kind of get it.

Speaker 11 (27:47):
Going again with a new group. So but these guys
understand the standard I think better now that we've said
and obviously we talk about culture a lot, and I
think they understand what it's going to have to take.
And you know, we've already hit some bumps in the road,
which is good. It's good for us to struggle. Now
we get their attention a little more and it's gonna

(28:09):
be fun.

Speaker 12 (28:09):
It's it's a.

Speaker 11 (28:10):
Really good group of guys. I mean, no issues in
the classroom, no issues, uh, you know, missing class, missing practice,
being late six o'clock weights in the morning. It's amazing,
So that part of it's been great.

Speaker 2 (28:23):
We just got to you.

Speaker 11 (28:23):
Know, be a little better on the field.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Wich they new that.

Speaker 11 (28:25):
I mean, we've got a lot of new players.

Speaker 5 (28:27):
So when you come out now again maybe I don't
think it's any question Baseball that moving the draft of
July is is is uh has been good for especially
coaches that are you know, going deep into postseason, you know,
but just that still what that the rhythm of going
through a season and then you're gonna lose guys and
then those guys are gonna want to you know, test

(28:49):
the portal and then you've got another portal. I mean,
is is that is that just completely speed up your life?
Or or how does that is? How's that all coming
together in four years? You know, as you finish off
the summer?

Speaker 11 (29:04):
Yeah, so really the portal opens right when the playoffs starts,
so everybody's you know, playing these regional games and you know,
trying to look through the portal. I mean, you're your assistance,
you're you're you know, they're not really called grat assistants anymore,
but you're they're all looking, you know, and then they're

(29:26):
basically scouring the portal every day and looking to the
video on these guys, and you know, we're we're calling
these kids, you know, while we're trying to get ready
to play a game. So it's frustrating times, but it's
everybody's doing it. And the guys who drop out, you know,
the guys that shooting the teams that ended up you know,
getting beat and they're out, they have a little bit
of advance because they start getting kids on campus and

(29:47):
and and list. We noticed this summer that guys were
really rushing hard, you know the guy that we we
were looking at. Also, we're forced to basically make a
decision at other schools before we could even come back
from Omahan and kind of you know, give them our
are in person speel. So it's gotten more difficult, but

(30:09):
I think that means you're playing well and that's what
we want to do. We're not worried about you know,
it's hard. You know, we're always worried about two classes
down the road. But and we've been on the high
school end of it. I would say Jay that, uh,
it's we've got a lot of momentum in the recruiting.
You know, we do really good in state, which is important,
and we've gotten some guys that are that are big

(30:30):
time guys, and the guys we lose out too. We
lose out to the best in the country. So, uh,
that's that's got momentum. The portal has been a little
tougher for us, just because I think people want to
when they get in that port they're like, I got
to go somewhere to get money, or I got I got.

Speaker 12 (30:45):
To play right now.

Speaker 11 (30:47):
And when they see a team in the World Series,
sometimes they don't realize the guys are gonna leave, so like, well,
they're they're so good, I don't want to go there.

Speaker 2 (30:54):
Interesting, So I want to shift to one other thing.

Speaker 5 (30:57):
You know, with with the pro game, there's a lot
of talk coming into the to the World Series that
if the Dodgers were to win, with the way the
salary cap is and and that infrastructure for for baseball,
and you're talking about a workstoppage after next year. Yeah,
I do all those things. You know, how do all
those things fit together? Like what could what's going to
trigger workstopage? What could prevent it? Just your thoughts.

Speaker 11 (31:20):
I have a you know, I have a bad feeling that,
uh doesn't really matter what's going to happen at this point.
I just feel terrible that.

Speaker 12 (31:30):
I just feel like it's.

Speaker 11 (31:31):
Setting up badly that there will be one after next season,
because I think ownerships want to get this.

Speaker 12 (31:39):
Thing under control in their mind.

Speaker 11 (31:41):
And the players. We worked so hard. I was in
the ninety four strike. It works so hard to keep
you know, and be strong. So it's gonna it's gonna
be two units that are unified, and we'll see how
it goes. I hope, I pray that they just you know,
figure something out and and figure out a way. But

(32:01):
you know, I kind of like that. I never rooted
I played for the Dodgers. I shouldn't say that, so
I did root for them at one point, but I've
never been a big Dodgers guy after I retired. But
I did root for him this year, Jay, because I
felt like, you know, what their ownership is like the Mets,
They're they're putting all their money that they're making back
into their team and for their fans. So I think
that's kind of cool when those times those teams win.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
I'm curious you talked about recruiting and stuff like that.
You obviously played here, we're a great player here. How
much does that a that block a still hold and
given it's it's a blue blood program baseball.

Speaker 11 (32:37):
Yeah, I mean it does, it does. I don't want
to I don't want to diminish what we've done here
in the history of our program.

Speaker 12 (32:43):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 11 (32:45):
But as you're seeing in college football, you know it's
Indiana is a big power now, it's just it's you know,
who gets the best players and you know who gets them.
You know, we're going to develop what We're always a
program that's.

Speaker 12 (32:59):
Going to develop. We've been that way forever.

Speaker 11 (33:00):
Yeah, you know, we won in eighty six with four
or five junior college players. If you look at the
two thousand and sixteen team that Jay had went to
World Series, same to twenty one. There's We've always, you know,
had a certain amount of junior college kids. We develop
our players as good as anybody. But you know, are
we going to be able to go out and acquire

(33:22):
a junior that's coming from a you know, it's been
the best player in the in the Whack or the
Mountain West and pay him to come to Arizona. Probably not.
You know, it's not going to be one of our
our our our ways to do it, and that's fine.
We'd rather have kids that they want to be here
and and like you said, you know, really want to
play for that block A.

Speaker 2 (33:41):
Yeah, no, because it's still it still holds.

Speaker 5 (33:43):
But just when you when you are talking about though,
do you have you you know, developed this, I don't know,
development not the right word, but most of these baseball
kids want to come for three years and go. So
I mean, if you do, you try to target freshmen
in a portal and try to get him to State
so they can stay for two years or or somewhere
in there where you there might.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
Be a sweet spot, the sweet spot something I just know.

Speaker 11 (34:07):
We haven't I mean really that you know, we we've
done pretty well with portal pitchers and they're usually older,
you know, fiftier guys. We've got a couple of younger
guys this year that have a couple of years of
UH eligibility, and we have a catcher that has a
couple of years. But most of those portal guys will end.

Speaker 12 (34:23):
Up just kind of because we want.

Speaker 11 (34:25):
We we really you know, with our money, with our
revenue sharing money that we get in our NIL that
we're able to do, we're trying to to use it
for retention and and you know, give it the kids
who busted their tail here and done a good job
in the classroom and have started to dessulp and gonna
be good players for us. Yeah, we're gonna have to
go out. You know, we got Tyler Bickers this year

(34:47):
who's gonna play second base most likely for us. He's
a you know, a grad you know, transfer from University
of Wisconsin, Milwaukee. Just a you know, a tough, tough
guy that's gonna hit you know, second or lead off
and just you know, bat the ball over the field
and make plays and nothing fancy. But we're always going
to have to fill in.

Speaker 12 (35:05):
With somebody like that. It's just a proven guy.

Speaker 11 (35:08):
But you know, he's not a guy that's you know,
was looking to make a lot of money in the porol.

Speaker 2 (35:14):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (35:14):
By the way, you and I Chipp are about the
same age. I think we've talked about that before. They
never talked about velocity blah blah blah. Just get get
the ball on the bat and try to outrun the hit.

Speaker 11 (35:26):
Yeah, I know, we talk about it all the time.

Speaker 3 (35:28):
Here.

Speaker 11 (35:28):
Listen to my recruiting coordinatort. Trip Couch is one of
the best in the country. And one thing we talk
about is let's trust.

Speaker 2 (35:34):
Our eyes, you know, and your your eyes will tell.

Speaker 11 (35:37):
You if the guy hit it well. And I always say,
if you get the first you did something right. I
don't sure if you're blooping in there or you hit
it one hundred and fifteen miles an hour at all
kinds of things.

Speaker 2 (35:46):
Sure.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
No, no, hey man, thanks for joining us.

Speaker 11 (35:49):
Appreciate you anytime.

Speaker 3 (35:51):
Guys, Thank you, good luck. Chipill All right, Chipill you
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Speaker 3 (40:03):
Hey, welcome back to Wying the Ball here on Fox
Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and today with me
is Jay John got Ray at the controls. Ivan talked
to Chip and I'm sure you know Andy lope is right.
You've spoken to him before. I across over has a
little bit my last year and certainly when he was in,
so I wanted to ask you because he's he's one
of the great philosopher's, great storytellers, YadA YadA. So when

(40:25):
he's in and he has this phrase, you know he
has the one players, two players, and three players. Have
you heard about this yet? You have your ones who
are star players, they know who they are, the Gilbert
Arenas Is, the the the Richard Jeffersons, those guys. Then
you have your two's who want to be the Gilberts
and the Richards and the but don't work hard to

(40:46):
be those guys because they think they're those guys. Then
you have the threes who want to be the ones,
and but are are the the Justin Wessels. Those the
guys that fit in and you know what I'm saying,
that make the team the team because he helped in
the ways that they like the But it's the twos
that you have the problem with because they think they're ones,
but they're not ones, and they create problems because they

(41:07):
think they're ones.

Speaker 2 (41:08):
Well they may or they may not create create problems.

Speaker 5 (41:12):
You know, it's just it's just a matter again, you know,
it's there's a there's that a whole piece about you know,
communication about defining roles, you know, and so I don't
know my role.

Speaker 2 (41:23):
Coaches, well again, who's who's isa.

Speaker 5 (41:26):
But again, if you have if you have a program,
you know, in in and within the program, you you
have principles and you have things, and there are people
that have walked before you, and it's still you know,
there has to be that level of communication. At the
same time, there have there have to be symmetrics. You know,
we talked in the last thing about all the metrics
that are there today. Some of those things in baseball

(41:48):
far as i'm turned, metrics are driven by agents trying
to find ways to create more value for my for
my client. But you have to have metrics upon which
you can be measured and and uh, but theyse you
know again if somebody used the phrase before, if you
you know, if they've got value in there, and you've
got to find a way that your job as a

(42:09):
coach is getting value out of that young man. And
you hope that the value winning enough and can believe
that even though you're in this case is you said too,
you know that you know you may be there's gonna
be times when you're when you have a chance.

Speaker 3 (42:22):
To win the game right to be a one, you know,
and so take your take a full advantage of that opportunity. Yeah,
if anybody wants to call, we got about ten minutes,
seven minutes, tons five two zero four one six seventy
four forty Uh. That said, let me ask you something
and these questions might be surprising to you, and you
don't have to answer the question. So when you left
and you got the head job at Oregon State, uh,

(42:44):
and you're long past that moment. Now do you wish
you would have changed your course? And I said that
you had an opportunity to became a head coach, But
let me tell you, Oregon State was a tough gig.
You know what I'm saying, Yes, would you change and
maybe waited or whatever because it's a tough gig.

Speaker 5 (43:04):
Well, what I will what I will say to you
is this at the particular time that that the opportunity
that that opportunity presented itself, okay, is you'd had an
athletic director named Mitch Barnhardt who had come to Oregon State,
and then Greg Byrne was was there with him, and
then there was there was another athletic director that Greg

(43:26):
was an assistant, yes, and then there's another guy in
the careless and Dennis Erickson is your coach, and you
had a president there. The doctor is all the alignment
was in place in any of these universities and athletic programs.
When you have alignment in place top down, you know

(43:47):
you now you're thinking along the same path, and so
everybody's like, how can we do this?

Speaker 2 (43:51):
How can we do that?

Speaker 5 (43:52):
Dennis had done that in football, So for me in basketball,
I felt that there was some alignment there. The unfortunate
thing for me to answer your question in long fashion,
is three months after I got the job, Mitch Barnhardt
left to go to Kentucky. He's still there. Okay, Greg
Byrne left and went with him, and so, you know,

(44:12):
it is what it is. But I in that case
the alignment that was there for me. Then Dannis Erickson
left to go to forty nine ers and the president left,
so it was kind of like on an island, and
and you didn't have everybody moving.

Speaker 2 (44:25):
Forward, you know. PJ.

Speaker 5 (44:27):
Fleck talks like you, but have to roll the same direction. Right,
that that changed, and so it's like at that particular time,
you know, so what do you what do you think? Well, again,
it's like, well, I'm in, I'm in now right, you know,
would you have waited later if you know that was
going to happen, Yeah, because you want the alignment, sure,
you know.

Speaker 2 (44:44):
And so we just we you know, we buckled down,
and you know, we got to the n I T
in the third year and.

Speaker 3 (44:49):
Yeah, you got rehired. I mean you got no, I
got a.

Speaker 2 (44:52):
Second, second, second contract, you know.

Speaker 5 (44:54):
And so but again it changed everything because now typically
when an athletic director hires you, they want to prove
themselves right too. So Mitch was doing a lot of
things you know, that happened. Then I ended up having
an athletic director that didn't hire me.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
So, yeah, that's death. It's it's you know, it's it's it.

Speaker 5 (45:14):
Makes it difficult because you do want everybody aligned, right
and that alignment was there and that was made that
an interesting opportunity for me.

Speaker 2 (45:22):
And it's it's funny kind of help fault part.

Speaker 3 (45:25):
Pretty great, Well you did what you're good?

Speaker 5 (45:27):
Yeah, no, I mean again, we finished fifth in the
third year and got to an n I T and
you know, they didn't talk so much about bubble, but
we were definitely a bubble team.

Speaker 2 (45:36):
You know, we beat U C. L A in the
first round of the n of the Conference tournament.

Speaker 5 (45:40):
A couple of times, you know, so but yeah, you
you when those programs are struggling, you need things. You
need all your administrative people on the same page.

Speaker 2 (45:50):
Yeah, because it's tough. It's a it's a place where
I think I spoke to you.

Speaker 3 (45:53):
But with this last time you were uh Mexico State,
the Colorado States, especially in the sports that you're coaching in,
either you have to do really well, get the hell
out or just hopefully that they love you enough they'll.

Speaker 2 (46:06):
Keep you well.

Speaker 5 (46:07):
You know, for me that that following year I had,
I had a good team you know, I did the injuries,
Well you had the one for your point guard, you know.
And that's another piece that some of the schools that
are trying to get over the hump, they don't necessarily
have the same level of depth as the other ones.
And so you know, we talked about this maybe last week.
Richard Jefferson, you know, injures his ankle and game in

(46:28):
the Stanford game in early oh two, and here comes
the red shirt freshman jumps right in and you know
we're basically playing in that game, you know, where the
freshman point guard Jason Gardner with the freshman off guard Gilbertarin.
It's in red shirt freshman and we're beating Stanford. You
have the depth, you know, and that's something that's not
necessarily always there for the programs trying to grow.

Speaker 2 (46:50):
Right now, I get it, and I know it's a
head coaching job. Well that's the thing I don't I'm not.
I'm not apologizing for that.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
You know.

Speaker 5 (46:57):
You you there's always risk any of those decisions and
you go forward, and you know, we did some things
that you know that one last year or that year
four or five, we're twelve and one at.

Speaker 3 (47:09):
Home, right and I bring this up and not even
bring this up. I just asked you the question. But
you know, people say here, had Jed stayed another year
or two be out there for the jobs that are
open right now, because he would have probably had that
run here last year, the previous year and then this
year to become who may be a better coach or whatever,
more thought of or whatever. You know what I'm saying,

(47:29):
more wanted, if you will, Given the circumstances of the
things going on now, are you surprised by there's probably
two hundred million dollars in payments for coaches that have
been fired.

Speaker 5 (47:40):
It's really I mean, you talked about that, you thought
that could happen from the portal piece because you know
right now you don't really have any you know, Donors
that care are a wonderful thing.

Speaker 2 (47:54):
Donors that care.

Speaker 5 (47:55):
Can be a double edged super're right, okay, But the
bottom line is is these are these these folks that
put forth money. They're paying for their entertainment. That's in
their mind. And that's how when I was when I
was doing development, and I was trying to talk to
those folks about you're paying for your entertainment. So if
you can help the roster when you come to the
game and you want to win and you want to
hear for your team. Okay, okay, invest and so but

(48:19):
you know, in this particular case, it's it's uh, it's
a lot of investing for. And now now you don't
you really don't have, you know, then there's gonna be
people complaining in all these are retread coaches. Okay, I
don't know how many signettes are out there. You know
that that that you just you're gonna because your donors
aren't necessarily going to, oh we're going to take a

(48:40):
guy that's only been in the FCS football. What are
you that's a little different to do that? That's not
going to work on the SECA no, I know.

Speaker 3 (48:51):
But the funny thing is it's a double a sort.
You have people with money, uh and Chip talked about
that with the baseball program, right, they get a minimal
amount of money and ill and you're trying to work
your magic with what you get compared to L s
U or whomever. People who care and sometimes in Arizona
is that program football probably basketball and baseball and all
the other sports.

Speaker 5 (49:11):
Well, there's no question, and you do have to find
your you know there's a there's still big tradition here
with the block a right, But at the same time,
you've got to find a way to maneuver, to maneuver
and manage your money. And I do think too, you know,
with the for baseball, with the you know, after the

(49:32):
third year, I can go into the draft, you know it.
You know, there's always been the issue with some of
those some of that you know from an academic stuff
for baseball guys, but you you're going to be able
to find guys that I need opportunity. Chips kind of
talked about that. You know, you may be too good.
I need to play. I want to transfer and going
to Portal because I got one year left. But at

(49:53):
the same time, you know, if you're Arizona and you
had some good junior college back baseball around you, you
go find that sophomore and he's got one year too,
so he's looking for opportunity. You know, it's but you've
got to have a plan. And you know, fortunately for
the you of a you know, coach Hale and his
assistant coaches have done a good job executing that plan.

Speaker 3 (50:14):
I think I think no, no, So we got about
five minutes, oh we got like a minute. Oh that
sounds quick, are you because of all the money owed?
Where's that money come from? People have money like that?
You chased it.

Speaker 5 (50:30):
Evidently, you know, because those contracts are written the way
they're written, and so people are paying, you know, they've
got to be paying. And again, if I'm an if
I'm an athletic director, and I have a donor come
to me and.

Speaker 2 (50:43):
Say and to put these.

Speaker 5 (50:44):
Demands, then I've got to come up put it back
in him as to listen. That may be okay, but
I'm going to need to come right back to you
because we are going to have to go do this
again and bring another coach in, you know, and until
that system changes, you know it, it's that's just the
price of playing ball.

Speaker 10 (51:02):
Man.

Speaker 3 (51:03):
Welcome to the new world. Welcome to the new world.
I'm glad you're well. I'm sure you're glad.

Speaker 5 (51:08):
You're not part of well again you you you you adapt.
It depends on how much how much longer you in
your work life you want to do and do you
want to jump in, because if you do, you're all in.
You know, where do you want to go find? And
do you know something else?

Speaker 3 (51:21):
I totally hear you.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
I totally hear you. Okay, great, let me ask you
a question. Go ahead, we got about three seconds. Do
you still watch the games on Saturday? Which games? Coast football?

Speaker 11 (51:30):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (51:31):
Yeah, yeah, of course.

Speaker 5 (51:31):
Okay, that's what I'm saying. You know all this is
going on, But yeah, I'm right there too. I'll watching it.
I want to see a good game.

Speaker 3 (51:37):
But I'm not opening my check book. I got enough
for a Buffalo Wings and a beer. All right, guys,
thanks about thank you.