Monday, May 5, Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to Iron the Ball Hero
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me
today is Troy Hutchison from Gooizycass dot.

Speaker 3 (00:20):
Com and our boy here one. Hello, everybody.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
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Speaker 3 (00:33):
Whatever. Celebrate lately please? You said lightly lately relative term?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Yes, welcome, everybody, Welcome. Good to be back ahead. Miss Wednesday, Thursday, Friday.
I'm partly not gonna miss much week except for maybe Friday.

Speaker 3 (00:47):
This week. I'll let you guess know.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Uh, good weekend kind of right, Uh busy weekend, busy sports. Yeah,
busy weekend for sports. The Kentucky Derby on Saturday, Warriors yesterday,
and I'm gonna take all your breaking news and then
based basketball just got a new coach.

Speaker 4 (01:03):
Just got a new assistant coach and Brandon Chappelle.

Speaker 2 (01:05):
Yeah we'll let we'll talk about it now. But to
let you hdle some of that stuff now. So yeah,
a lot of things going on, and I haven't really
We're gonna have Bruce Pasco at the four seventeen hour
talk about what's going on with the basketball program, including
that and the schedule that's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Pretty pretty big, right, pretty pretty good.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
A daunting task. And you know what if you.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
If you want to be the best Troy, you better
play the best, be the best.

Speaker 4 (01:30):
All that's missing is that mid conference game against like
a North Carolina or Kansas. What do you mean mid
like remember how season season? Would have you known? February
North Carolina in February it was.

Speaker 3 (01:42):
The It was the game that they played. Only a issue.
Yeah no, I did it for twenty three years. It
was fun.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Only thing missing.

Speaker 3 (01:48):
Yeah, yeah, no, it's good. That's good. That's the test,
your test your guys, see how good they are and
see what you need to improve on.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
And hope you don't screw up in March because you
can have fun in November, December, January. If you don't
do well in March, did you get criticized?

Speaker 4 (02:02):
You know what, they didn't do well last time? They
did this last season in terms of the record in
the non conference.

Speaker 3 (02:07):
But yeah, it paid off. It was Yeah, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
I had a discussion with a friend of mine on Facebook,
one of my Facebook guys. He said, oh, it's best
that they paid this, and I don't disagree with that.
And Lukes philosophy was that played tough schedules, see what
you need to improve on eventually get you ready for March.
They didn't do that previously to this date.

Speaker 3 (02:28):
How can I see this? Okay? You see it? Work?
Paid off? Right?

Speaker 2 (02:32):
Paid off to finish in the sweet sixteen paid And
what sense did the payoff?

Speaker 4 (02:37):
You knew your problems going in the conference play if
you played a weaker schedule. Who jumbled?

Speaker 3 (02:44):
Is there more more to the paidoff? Tell me more?

Speaker 4 (02:47):
It got It got made you tough. It made you
in situations that you've been in before, different teams and
been through that you knew what you.

Speaker 2 (02:54):
Knew how you had to be tough. You knew you
had to be tough. Right, Okay, that's two. I'll give
you this prepared you for the conferent friend, this is
my biggest thing. And I think and again, if you
have a weaker non conference schedule, you're going to the
conference play.

Speaker 4 (03:05):
You get slaughtered, no question. You might miss the tournament,
no question.

Speaker 2 (03:08):
And they did do that. They did do that. Let's
go back to the Pac twelve. They played mediocre well
under Sean. That was always the case where they played,
you know, Okay, and he had won a lot of games,
and that's what the defenders teams, the defenders will He
won a lot of games. Well, he didn't beat a
whole lot of good teams, Sean, I mean Tommy first round,

(03:29):
first season, him here, he got to the sweet sixteen, right, underachieved, underachieved,
underachieved because they played so well.

Speaker 3 (03:36):
But how was that scheduled?

Speaker 4 (03:38):
Though?

Speaker 3 (03:38):
I can't remember the schedule.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
I think the mediocre.

Speaker 3 (03:43):
Yep, what do you remember? Just there was a lot
of talent, no, no.

Speaker 4 (03:48):
No, no schedule schedule. They had Michigan in Vegas. I
think Michigan was underwhelming, and then some other teams that
just won there.

Speaker 2 (03:55):
So that kind of didn't set him up for what
was ahead because they got physically beat up in in
the tournament. Right TCU Houston the year after they lost
to Princeton.

Speaker 4 (04:06):
Princeton, I think a week non conference.

Speaker 2 (04:09):
A week Okay, Pack twelve didn't show you sure, and
I totally I do agree with you. They want a
lot right again, But you know, I think that was
more of a confidence factor in the tournament because uh,
they were over confident thinking that it'd be what they
would be, and then last year they lost to Timpson.
The schedule was what it was, right, It was not great, wasn't.

Speaker 4 (04:29):
I think it was solid?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (04:30):
So then so how come they ended up at the
same place we succeed.

Speaker 4 (04:33):
I think the conference schedule was tougher, and I think
that that was the difference in terms of the last
few years.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
At some point, at some point though, and I'm just
being doubles out, not to be a pussy, but mony
at some at some and I am Steve, Uh, at
some point you play a tougher schedule, it benefits, right,
know what you need to do before by the time
March comes. But at some point you gotta eventually say
we're good, and so let's be good. Whether you played

(05:01):
a bunch of schedule tough teams or whatever. And I
still believe that it's how you play that day against Cumpston,
they've sucked that day, and they got beat against Princeton,
they were over conhent, they sucked the second half, they
got beat so and then they just Houston, well not
Houston with.

Speaker 4 (05:16):
The first one talking about Duke. Now, Duke Duke, I
think he played maybe the second third best game in
the country.

Speaker 2 (05:23):
Right, So the better team sometimes sometimes the better team wins.
The Houston game that you were going to talk about.
Sometimes you played the better team and Houston was a
better team that day or that day, and maybe beyond
they they were good.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I think they're that Houston team was physically tougher and
mentally doffer mindjiy Arizona was a one seed and a
one seed for a reason. They were very good, weretty good,
but they hadn't been punched in the mouth all correct.
Got punched in the mouth when they flopped.

Speaker 2 (05:46):
Yeah, well it reminds me of the time. And you
guys are played too young for this. Soliam Stottamayer was
playing against Cal. I think it was Cal twenty fourteen,
fifteen something like that, and uh a Pastornat who's an
assistant coach at that time over there, so oh count
So what they did admitted into it. They roughed him up,
They gave him an elbow, took a foul. I think

(06:07):
it was a foul, but they want to get into
his head that it ain't gonna be easy for you, sline.
You're not gonna have to open shots. So right away,
guess what happens to Selene. He folds because he's noised
gonna have to be physical, and Cal has a sway.
If I can remember quickly, he was on a probably
lesson game. So I'm saying it's it's what you do
throughout the season and eventually get you deternament and then

(06:29):
all bets are off. What you did in November December
doesn't mean crap. Loot would have won twenty championships had
the championship been in November, but it wasn't. And then
you can say, well, they had a good, tough schedule,
blah blah blah. And I've been through twenty five of these,
so you know, I'm a doctor here. I saw a
lot of good things in November and December, and then
we'll let's set you up for a good March.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
No, not always.

Speaker 4 (06:53):
And the thing that you don't have that Loot and
those teams had was Okay, you went through those hard
times that season. Now you know for your next next year,
and it's going to be an upper There is no
more upper classes. Sophomore is an upper classman at this point.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
You know, at some point they're gonna have to forget
about all that stuff and just play their ass off. Also,
you talk about the Florida game right coming up? Do
we mentioned we haven't we haven't do so they played
for the first game, they played, defending champs. It's not
gonna be the same team you saw this last year.
And everyone's thinking Arizona's going to be pretty good, right yep?

Speaker 3 (07:25):
So what makes us not.

Speaker 2 (07:26):
Think that Arizona could be a better team coming in that.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
First game of the year. Yeah, well, if Carter comes back.

Speaker 4 (07:34):
People thought that way coming into this past season that
it was I mean, they started number twelve and gonna
be better.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
Than the year before and then and that's it.

Speaker 4 (07:42):
Yeah what Y're four and five, four five, four and six, Yeah,
something like that at the midway through almost half to
know your non conference season, it's like, uh oh yeah.

Speaker 3 (07:51):
Yeah, no, no, did he make changes? Did he?

Speaker 2 (07:53):
Ye?

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Tell me dollar.

Speaker 4 (07:55):
Also, when in the starting lineup, kJ Lewis came out
of the lineup, Henry Henry Vase increased his minutes given
the injury to Crevas.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Right right, right, So I asked for reasons so you
could go because I didn't want to go review.

Speaker 3 (08:08):
So do you think those were?

Speaker 5 (08:10):
Well?

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Okay, was was the local starter?

Speaker 5 (08:14):
No?

Speaker 3 (08:14):
Was he a starter? Was he in your mind? Was
he a starter?

Speaker 4 (08:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
No?

Speaker 2 (08:18):
No?

Speaker 3 (08:18):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (08:19):
So he did that too, might be messed with the
you know, get the guys to play, however, you get
energy off the bench, right right, Henry was the next
factor to me. He was the guy that helped him
kind of And who's the other one? Towns walker walk
in town Townsend was kind of just okay, he was there.
He was there, so he did a little thing to
tinker to get him to play better, right, yeah, and
he got him to the sweet sixteen, three sweet sweet

(08:41):
sixteens and a pressure real loss in four years. What's
the pressure better on the sweet sixteen, better the sweet sixteen?

Speaker 3 (08:48):
This next year? Is there?

Speaker 4 (08:49):
I think there is? I think that I think there
always is until you finally get to that level, until
you finally get to the lead age.

Speaker 3 (08:55):
And what's what does pressure? What does pressure mean to you?

Speaker 4 (08:59):
If? How do I say this?

Speaker 6 (09:01):
Tom?

Speaker 4 (09:01):
He's a great coach, He's a young coach, and he's
he's learning and developing.

Speaker 3 (09:05):
He's a good good and it's likable very.

Speaker 4 (09:08):
But is there a timeline where you run out of
patients trying to get to a final four?

Speaker 3 (09:12):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (09:12):
Here here, especially in today's college troops. Here here. I
think he's fantastic. I like the guy as a good guy,
as a person, everything. I mean, what's not to like?
But I'm wondering, I'm not even wondering, what do you
what do you think?

Speaker 7 (09:28):
Let me think what I'm doing. I agree with Troy
where there is a timeline too? How long you're you're
satisfied with sixteen's that happened?

Speaker 2 (09:37):
Where you're at? Remember where you're at Arizona? Yeah, where
expectations are higher.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
Exactly they shouldn't be, but they are.

Speaker 4 (09:44):
And let's face it, this athletic director did not hire
Tommy Lloyd.

Speaker 2 (09:48):
Yeah, he's got four more years, four years on the
new contractor he just said, yeah, five years, you know,
five million? Yeah, so yeah, yeah, No, he's got he's
got plenty of time to get this. But another sweet
sixteen and another sweet sixteen? Mm?

Speaker 4 (10:04):
You know who was also in a similar, similar situation
with many coaches. But Jay Wright, when was he going
to get pass the sweet sixteen? When was he going
to get past the lead eight? And they gave him
this tiny won two national championships and said, Okay, I'm
going to retire now and have a good one. But
it's a lot show.

Speaker 2 (10:18):
You guys are in your twenties, maybe you're thirty, twenty
thirty in your lifetime.

Speaker 3 (10:22):
Do you think that you're going to win another title?

Speaker 4 (10:24):
That Arizona will. I think they'll win multiple by the
time I die. By the time I die, we're talking
to maybe ninety.

Speaker 3 (10:31):
Writes this stuff down.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
Write this stuff down when you're out you're doing your
little king say dry you remember begging.

Speaker 8 (10:38):
Five.

Speaker 3 (10:39):
We're talking like before you got into the show.

Speaker 4 (10:43):
Hopefully sixty fifty five, sixty years ago.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Was now it's on your timeline.

Speaker 4 (10:49):
Yeah, talking about my time.

Speaker 2 (10:50):
Fine, you live until what seventy ninety ninety hopefully Okay,
I'll give you that.

Speaker 3 (10:56):
You guys, sixty years to win two.

Speaker 4 (10:57):
To win two? Okay, and in the years give him
that any given Sunday, you never know.

Speaker 7 (11:03):
To yourself, what do you think I think, given if
you live to ninety, if I live to ninety, Arizona
will at least win one.

Speaker 3 (11:11):
Yeah, I'll give you that. Tell me because because your
question was in my life lifetime the coach.

Speaker 4 (11:19):
Yeah, we'll see, we'll see.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
He's uh, let me tell you, it's very difficult. Obviously,
it ain't easy. Everybody has a chance or not everybody,
but there's a there's a little small target, right and
things gotta go well and blah blah blah.

Speaker 4 (11:34):
The only thing with Tommy that I questioned in terms
of we'll see is not the talent of coach. He
is not the type of coach he is, and not
that he's not growing, but one the timeline from the
fan base and the university of hey, when are we
going to get there? Because colle shoops, everybody's in and
out now yeah yea. And two do you grow frustrated
with that and eventually say, hey, you know what, I'll

(11:55):
coach Gonzaga. I don't want this.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
They love me over there, right yeah yeah, yeah, no no,
and you're gonna get paid well no, yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:01):
But he's not that dude.

Speaker 2 (12:02):
He's got he wants to win, and he wants to
do well, and he loves his place and all that,
and I think this town loves him a lot. He's
won a lot. I think the world of him. I
actually do. I did a story in a big story
in the magazine a month ago or whatever. It's just
gonna be very difficult.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
We got to go. Is that a call?

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Your call?

Speaker 3 (12:17):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Okay, Hello, you're on the air and line the ball.
Who's this they just coached? Hey, coach, I'll want you.

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Coach.

Speaker 2 (12:26):
Coach, you're We're just gonna go to break coach. Can
we just uh can you call back in like four minutes?

Speaker 5 (12:32):
No problem?

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Call back, Thank you, Ben, Let's go to break down.
Thanks a bunch of coach. Uh, let's take the break.

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Speaker 1 (17:40):
Steve Rivera, he's got his eye on the ball on
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Speaker 2 (17:50):
Hey, welcome back to my on the ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera. In with me
today is Troy Huts. Just send from Goodizycats dot com.
Now when the phone, we have Danni Gonzalez, the Arizona
defensive cordon coach.

Speaker 3 (18:00):
How you doing, I'm doing great.

Speaker 5 (18:03):
How are you guys doing today?

Speaker 3 (18:04):
We're doing fine.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Let me let me say that I know that Troit
got you to get us on the line here with us.

Speaker 3 (18:09):
Let me say this.

Speaker 2 (18:10):
I was at the press converence here I two three
weeks ago at the end of the spring ball and
and I met you once at a preseason preseason stuff
when you first got here, and I was pretty impressed
with you. I'm let me sell also say this from
New Mexico. Originally I've been here a while now covered
basketball football.

Speaker 3 (18:26):
Uh, but I was you.

Speaker 2 (18:28):
You struck me as a very cool, just a guy
that many guys want to play hard for. And I'm
not blowing smoked. I'm the I'm the guy that doesn't
blow smoke here at all. But it was very passionate.
When you're on on the on the table and I think, Hmmm,
this guy must be successful because they want to play
hard for him. I guess that's the essence of a coach,

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right or you tried to be.

Speaker 5 (18:50):
No, I think you you first, you have to gain
their trust. You have to they have to know that
you're in it for them. And I think once you
get that, and once you show them who you are
and they can believe in you, and no matter what
they need you, you're willing to help them out and
do what it takes to one develop them not only
is a football player, but of the person. I think
they're willing to do anything for you. And I think
we have a great group of kids that really want

(19:12):
to be good, and we've kind of laid a blueprint
form and I think they've.

Speaker 1 (19:16):
All bought in.

Speaker 4 (19:18):
You know, you guys just finish up spring football, and
when we saw the Spring showcase, I know, going into
this offseason, linebackers, you guys were addressing that with Max
Harris and Riley Wilson and others that you added at
that area defensive line, you guy has added a bunch.
How important was it this offseason to add depth in
key positions which you guys were able to do.

Speaker 3 (19:40):
Well.

Speaker 5 (19:41):
Obviously, depth was a big hindrance last year when we
started getting guys hit, hurt and picked off. We weren't
deep enough to stay competitive in the Big twelve. And
I think the Big twelve from top to bottom is
very comparatively if there's nobody in this league that has
more than every more than anybody when it comes to resources,
So evaluating and is going to be an important piece.

Speaker 15 (20:01):
Now.

Speaker 5 (20:01):
We needed to get bigger, which was one of the
things that we addressed because when we played games in
late October November last year, the teams on the other
side of the country were significantly bigger than us. So
I think we've addressed that. I think we've got eighteen
on defense that we think can play. We need to
develop a couple more for that added depth that we need,
But I think we have the right pieces to be

(20:23):
a very competitive football team come this fall.

Speaker 2 (20:25):
So back in the day and I'm gonna throw late
in the old name to Pat Hill, like kry Pet
Hill that told me back in the day, and you
know I would run into Pat Hill maybe at a
restaurant or whatever. He'd have, you know, his little napkins
drying up schemes. Are you one of those guys? Do
you kind of think out of the box and kind
of do things when you're not even working, but really
working with those type of things writing stuff down?

Speaker 5 (20:47):
I think I'm always trying to figure out what gives
our kids the best chance to be successful. And you
could definitely ask my wife. I mean there's something. There's
something being scribbled all the time somewhere, whether it be
on my phone, iPad, a notebook, I mean.

Speaker 3 (21:00):
Name it.

Speaker 5 (21:00):
We're always trying to find a way to give our
kids an advantage.

Speaker 3 (21:04):
Yeah, always thinking, always thinking.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
You know you talk about the size and all that
that you guys were able to add. But a key
part of everything this Houseason was seeing guys that entered
the portal come back with Genesis, Smith, Dalton, Johnson, Trad
and Stukes. Just having that foundation to work with. As
you entered your first season as DC at Arizona, how
important was that for you to get those leaders back
in the locker room.

Speaker 5 (21:28):
Well, I think in January that thing was the utmost importance.
I mean, we had a pretty good run there, and
then all of a sudden, one jumped in the portal,
and then two, and then it became eight of the
guys that we really wanted to stick around.

Speaker 15 (21:41):
We had conversations with probably twenty five.

Speaker 5 (21:44):
Others where we told them, you know, if you want
to play football, it's probably not going to be here.
But those eight the genesis is the Stukes, the Dalton
Johnson's of the world. We did everything we could to
keep them, and we did, and we battled back and
they got out of the portal and remained, and then
we were able to survive this portal here in April
where the guys that we plan on being a big

(22:05):
part of the picture next fall, they all stayed and
they didn't even we didn't have to talk them out
of getting out of the portal. They never entered the portal,
which was now standing thing. And I think it speaks
both for the culture that we built here in a
short time and what Coach Brennan's idea and the foundation
of this program and where we're headed. So there was
a lot of excitement at the end of that portal
window closing that we knew who our football team is.

(22:27):
We're excited about the guys we have on this football team,
and now it's time to get biggest, strong in the
weight room so that we have some swing behind that
hammer when we get.

Speaker 13 (22:34):
To the fall.

Speaker 2 (22:35):
So, can you describe what defense you're gonna not defense
you're gonna run, but aggressive being who you are kind
of what's the plan?

Speaker 5 (22:45):
Well, the plan is to make it as hard as
possible on the offenses. And I think we have some
depth of the D line, but I also think we
developed some depth at linebacker. We have the ability to
have four down linemen on there. We have the ability
to have three down line and three linebackers on there.
So we're gonna be able to create some problems for
offenses by the pictures that we give them. We're never

(23:05):
gonna we won't be static. I can promise you that
will be very aggressive. The more we can get after
a quarterback with a four man rush, the more stuff
we can do in coverage. But I can promise you this,
we will get after the quarterback, and I think we
have some pieces back there with Marquise Dalton trade and Stukes,
Chances Smith and the secondary that.

Speaker 15 (23:24):
We can we can we can create some problems for
people and have.

Speaker 5 (23:27):
An opportunity to get some turnovers with those guys that
we have covering in the back end.

Speaker 4 (23:31):
You guys were able to add coach Joe Salavea to
the coaching staff and that seems to have helped out
in terms of recruiting, transporport and whatnot and bringing in
a guy like Tsava. Just the impact that you noticed
from coach Salavea this spring practice and what are you
excited most about having him on your staff along with others?
Say you guys had it as well.

Speaker 5 (23:53):
Well. The most exciting thing about coach Salavea is I've
had to compete against him for a long time, whether
it be in recruiting or on the field, and I
really effect and admire the work that he's done from
Afar and having the opportunity to be up close and
to be on the same side of the street is outstanding.
I mean, coach Olive has won an outstanding person where
it starts the multi He's very strong in his faith,

(24:14):
He's a great mentor to the men in the d
line room. And then the job he does recruiting is phenomenal.
Not only is he a great evaluator, but his relentless
pursuit of these young men. I think we're gonna be
really excited about our signing class once we get through
June and all these official visits and then sign these
guys in November. I think there's a lot of upside

(24:36):
on what this class is looking like between the guys
that we have on both offensive defense. But coach Olive
has been a big doctor in that.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
That said, how is it coaching under Brent.

Speaker 5 (24:48):
Coach Brennan is by far within the FBS football is
he is the best players coach there is. And the
way he treats his staff, we're allowed to be fathers
and husbands, which is which is not always that common
in this profession. He has a very strict I mean
it's outstanding by our players because they understand what they're

(25:11):
allowed to do, what they're not and nobody told that
line and Coach Brennan has been I mean, we kind
of did a reset on the program in January and
it's been outstanding. I mean, he's a great individual to
work for, he's a great man. It's been a true
blessing for me and my family to be here, and
I'm really excited about the future of this football program.

Speaker 4 (25:31):
During your post practice interview at the Showcase, you got
to sit there with coach Dagan talk about the offensive
mind that you see in him and the battles that
you guys have had this spring practice. You know, can
you just share with our listeners here a little bit
of your thoughts on the job coach day he's done
in the short time here in Tucson.

Speaker 3 (25:52):
Well, I think the.

Speaker 15 (25:53):
Biggest thing that he's done in the short time.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
Is he's laid the foundation of what their belief system
is going to be on offense. And I've been this
is going on my twenty eighth year of doing this.
Coach Zegi's mindset and is close to a defensive mindset
for any offensive coach that I've been around, which has
been fun for us. I mean, his deal is if
that ball stood on the ground, freaking a our offense

(26:16):
is expected to go score and our mantra forever has
been doesn't matter what it is keeping out the freaking
end zone. So having that competitive spirit back and forth
against each other has been outstanding. And then the buy
in from I mean, you have to believe in what
you do, and you have to portray.

Speaker 15 (26:32):
Some confidence in what you do. And coach Zeigi is
an extremely.

Speaker 5 (26:35):
Confident young ball coach and it's bled over to his
players and on the offensive side, and we've had some
great battles through springball. You'll see an improved tempo. You'll
see it improved. I mean, offensively, we have a chance
to be significantly better than we were last year. And
if we pair that together with a good defense, I mean,
it could be a really fun football season.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
Troy brought up that conversation, so that was one of
the things that struck me and maybe your tone because
I loved it.

Speaker 3 (27:00):
I loved it.

Speaker 2 (27:00):
It was about losing and how much you hate losing.
Where does that come from? And how did that manifest?

Speaker 5 (27:08):
Well, I mean, I think it's it started from a
young age. And my dad was very competitive when he
was teaching me to play baseball, or when he was
teaching me to play soccer or football, and mean those things.
I mean when he teaching me to play baseball, he
put me in front of our metal shed and he
threw the ball at me as far as he could
and he's like, son, do you not allow that to
hit to the building. If that is the building, we're
gonna have problems. And so I'm doing everything I can
at five years old to keep this freaking baseball coming

(27:30):
being darted from my dad to try and hit this,
and and it became Uh, that's just that was the
that was the deal. You whatever it is, you are
successful at you you want.

Speaker 15 (27:39):
And that's just kind of the nature that I'm going into.

Speaker 5 (27:42):
I mean, I'm I'm competitive in anything I do. Yeah,
I mean, I just want to win. I mean it's
to the point that I hate losing more than I
enjoy winning, which is really sad, but it's just it.
It just gets so deep in me when I lose
or I don't create success with whatever it is I'm doing, Yeah,
that becomes a problem for everybody around me.

Speaker 13 (27:59):
So just just win so we.

Speaker 15 (28:02):
Don't have to deal with all that nonsense.

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah, I think what you just said is I think
for coaches who just have that passion for it, it
hurts more to lose and than it feels good to win.
I think that's the that's kind of like the signage
that every good coach has.

Speaker 5 (28:17):
Well, it's it's one of those things. I mean you
win and everything you put into you should enjoy it
a whole lot, because it's really hard to win football games.
But when you win, you kind of move on to
the next one because you know it's coming, and when
you lose, it's hard to get over it. So, I mean,
it's just it's just the nature.

Speaker 15 (28:31):
Of what comes when you're that competitive.

Speaker 4 (28:35):
So we were told that tomorrow May sixth, you guys
are opening up a camp called Extraordinating Extraordinary Cats, a
camp for kids with disabilities. Can you share that and
the community outreach stuff you are doing with camps just
like that here in Tucson.

Speaker 5 (28:52):
Well, last last Tuesday, we had the kids to steal
for individuals like to make a wish condition, whether they
whether they're fine, a debilitating disease, or they've overcome cancer,
I mean those things, and it was really fun to
have those children out there last week with our football
players and our team. The camp that we have tomorrow
called Extraordinary Cats. My wife and I our youngest daughter Abby.

(29:17):
She's eleven years old. She has Down syndrome, and when
she was born, my wife had seen an individual's football
camp for kids with Down syndrome that Christian McCaffrey and
his dad ed McCaffery put on and she had thought
it was really signed.

Speaker 15 (29:34):
To it and looked into it and she's like, you know,
we should do this, And I told her, if.

Speaker 5 (29:38):
I ever become had a football coach, we will start
a camp and represent anybody that has any individual with
a disability, and we think of it as different abilities.
And because everybody's good as something and people with disabilities
oftentimes are more like than different, will learn as much
from them as they do from us. And so when
I became head coach of the University of Mexico, we
started a camp called Extraordinary Lobos and it was for

(29:59):
individuals with the disabilities, and it was just awesome. I mean,
they come out, they get to be around our football players,
they do drills, they blew football drills. I mean, these
kids are never going to play Division one sports or
these individuals, and so to give them the opportunity to
compete in that manner with our football players is awesome.
And so when we took the job here at the
University of Arizona, my wife was like, we got to

(30:20):
continue this, and so I asked coach Brennan if we
could become extraordinary cats and continue this for our community
here in Tucson, which has been freaking outstanding. And I
think we as of last week, we had over sixty
individuals registered. So we're excited about the opportunity. Tomorrow night
at five o'clock. Registration starts to four thirty. Anybody with
an individual and anybody wants to come to the camp

(30:41):
and come to the camp. I mean, you don't have
to have a disability.

Speaker 15 (30:45):
If you have an If you do have.

Speaker 5 (30:46):
A disability or somebody with a divisibility that you want
to bring, you can bring them and compete with them.
And we're gonna do different drills with our football players.
They're gonna be able to tour the locker room, try
them some pads. It'll be a great event for the
city of Tucson, a great event for the University of
Arizona and Arizona Football. Something very passionate about. And like
I said, we're in We're intoing inclusion. Our daughter is

(31:10):
in a genet classroom with their typical peers. We fully
believe in that and we're gonna spread that as much
as we can where we can. Our kids go to
Catfield's Catalina Foodthill School District and our daughters at Manzae
Elementary School. She's going to Orange Grove next year where
we have our other daughter who's at Orange Grove and
they've been phenomenal with an inclusion program of keeping our

(31:32):
daughter involved with typical peers. So we're excited about this
camp tomorrow. We want anybody and everybody to come out
to it and experience it and have a great time
in Arizona Stadium.

Speaker 4 (31:42):
I did see on Twitter that you guys had a
QR code for people to sign up and get active
with that. But how long does the camp run? Is
it just tomorrow or is it a select number of
days for people that are interested.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
Nope, it is.

Speaker 5 (31:55):
It is just tomorrow. Registratings at four thirty. The camp
goes from five to ish. It's just a one day camp.
We'll continue to do this annually, but it'll be really excite.

Speaker 15 (32:06):
So they can sign up.

Speaker 5 (32:07):
They can go to Brent Brandant football camps, you can
go to Arizona Football Camp or Arizona Football website or
the QR code, or you can just show up tomorrow
at four thirty and register at the stadium.

Speaker 15 (32:17):
Either way you can do it.

Speaker 5 (32:19):
However you want. But we're looking for individuals with disabilities
to have a whole bunch of fun with our football.

Speaker 2 (32:24):
Players a specific agents, no any any individual. There's no
age limit, okay, no cool. More importantly, now, do you
miss home? Like I said, I grow up in Santa Fe.
I missed the food, I missed my friends.

Speaker 3 (32:37):
How about you?

Speaker 16 (32:40):
You know what.

Speaker 5 (32:42):
Home is wherever you put your feet, and right now, Dusan,
Arizona is our home. We love it here. I think
I'm a firm believer of wherever you are, you have
to be all in now. Our family, the majority of
our family, my wife's family is in Albuquerque still, so
we'll go back there and visit and do all those things.
But we are situated in Catalina Foothills right now. We

(33:04):
love our community, we love our where we're at. And
so the new Mexican food, we haven't found anything quite
like that out here yet. The Mexican food and New
Mexican food is different, yes, so we're still hunting that up. Luckily,
my wife is a wonderful cook, so I get as
much of it as I want. And uh, but Juson
has been fantastic for us for the past year. We're

(33:24):
excited to be.

Speaker 2 (33:25):
Here, spoken like a true coach, diplomatic and didn't want
to piss anybody off, you know, Like, have you eaten
at Pokemon Moms?

Speaker 5 (33:33):
We have not, so that that's a new one. That's
what we need to try.

Speaker 2 (33:36):
That's the one because let me tell you, I missed
food like that. All the Albuquerque stuff santathe specifically, but
that's the closest you'll get that's good.

Speaker 5 (33:45):
Where is it at.

Speaker 2 (33:46):
It's on the east side, It's near Udall Park. Just
Poco and Pokemon Moms. You'll find it.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Go.

Speaker 2 (33:53):
Yeah, fantastic stuff. Coach, thanks for joining us. Enjoy we'll
talk again soon.

Speaker 5 (33:59):
Awesome. I appreciate you guys having me on. Thank you
all you do for our community and person on football.

Speaker 3 (34:03):
Thanks coach talking guys, be well man, Thank you.

Speaker 2 (34:06):
Uh And Albuquerque is like just to soon with snow
and I'm going to offend a lot of people.

Speaker 4 (34:12):
I've heard that a lot from people that you know
have lived in bost cities too.

Speaker 3 (34:16):
Sound with snow mine it's the breaking bed stuff. Yeah,
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Speaker 3 (40:55):
That's good. He was good. I like, he's just like a.
I don't want to see a powerful voice, but a
convincing voice.

Speaker 4 (41:03):
To me, an old school coach. Yeah, with that old
school yeah, you know somebody that you're get inspired by.

Speaker 3 (41:09):
Just yeah, yeah, yeah, that that's Adam. Did you were there?
Weren't you? With the post?

Speaker 2 (41:13):
Yeah, And the relationship that he had or the the
goal back and forth that hum and dag he had
was like.

Speaker 3 (41:19):
Intriguing to me.

Speaker 4 (41:20):
You don't see a lot of oftense coordinators or evense coordinators.
I don't want to say romantic, but like about the
other dude in terms of what they can do.

Speaker 2 (41:29):
Right right, and and that said day was very How
can I say this? And I'm sure it's simple because
I don't hang around the football program as much as
the bestball program about his and then Noah right and
every coach waxed his poetic on their players, but not
to the extent that Dagie did the most. And I
can't remember mispraise or misquote him, and how passionate he

(41:50):
was about Noah, how smart he is, how how thoughtful
he was he is, and and everything I know about
Noah is exactly true.

Speaker 3 (41:56):
Right He's He's that dude, and he was very passionate
about him that night.

Speaker 2 (42:01):
It was like, I mean, if if you want somebody
to talk highly about you in any situation, that's.

Speaker 3 (42:07):
What you want to hear.

Speaker 4 (42:09):
And you notice not only as the day it's Brendan,
it was Jadfish, it was even it was even the
name's escaping me right now. The former offense coordinated is
escaping me right now. For here they just they I
just left us think babers. But everybody has talked that

(42:29):
way about Noah, and so if everybody does that right,
if everybody does it right, there was something about that.

Speaker 2 (42:35):
Yeah, No, no, obviously, because he's kind of held this
team together last year. He brought a lot of the
guys back, or at least they came back. And it
doesn't surprise me now and I said this, you probably
don't remember this when he replaced uh, the Lord Jayden.

Speaker 3 (42:49):
I'm thinking there's.

Speaker 2 (42:49):
Something about this game, the Stanford game, right that they
played harder for him, and they pulled that game out
and Jay would look at me like that, and I
asked him, I don't want.

Speaker 3 (42:57):
To say his name.

Speaker 2 (42:58):
I said that that seemed to be the case for me,
and it happens all the time. The players play harder
for people that they like and are are impressed by
or respect. And they said, no, that's not there's no
question that was the case. And some of the people said, yes,
very much so. And you saw it from that point
on the Washington game, the USC game. Yes, I don't

(43:19):
think there are any any of those ball games with
the previous quarterback, right right, Everything just seemed to gel
right after that moment.

Speaker 3 (43:28):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (43:28):
Yeah, it's like you find it.

Speaker 3 (43:30):
Very noticeable one and then you can see what you
can see why now.

Speaker 4 (43:34):
Yeah, yeah, well and you saw why after the season
when Jed left, when everybody left, and all of a sudden,
what's going to happen? And know on TMAC stay and
they're able to get the majority of the Yes, they
lost some pieces, but the majority of the roster back.
That doesn't happen, especially nowadays.

Speaker 2 (43:50):
You're exactly right, even just to test it, because some
of them stayed a year and then obviously left right.

Speaker 3 (43:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (43:58):
We talked about this a year ago when I was
first starting with you, that there's there's almost an aura
about Noah Flafida that almost everyone's drawn.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
To at the perfect position, too, right, because you need
that quarterback, that guy to be the quarterback.

Speaker 7 (44:12):
And then it's not only the person he is. You
don't see many five ft ten quarterbacks. I was going
to say that they get that respect. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:23):
And I think what's different about this spring that we
didn't see in the previous springs or pre last spring
when no Fafida was going to be the guy as
they said, you know what, Yes he's a great leader.
Yes he's a great person. We need him to be
more vocal, right, and we're going to challenge him. Yeah
this spring, that's the first time you've ever heard somebody
say we're going to challenge know what to be more

(44:44):
of a leader than what he is.

Speaker 2 (44:45):
The funny thing about it, I can say, I'm just
trying to go back with some of the players that
I covered. The last guy, maybe not the last gay,
but a guy like that was TJ McCoo, just the
dude who, okay, guard non descript but led those teams
to how good they were. And it was funny because
the year before I ran into lout a couple of

(45:07):
times in twenty thirteen whatever it was. He says, how
they look, and he says that they're gonna be good,
but the best player is not even playing. I'm thinking,
who's that well? Was their guard the transfer from the
Kane I'm thinking, oh, that's interesting. And then the year
later you see him playing and says, oh, exactly what
lou would want in the guard. Was him just the
guy who helped everybody make play better.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
And went about his wisess, not caring about how many
shots got up in there.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
And that you remember the story that I saw from
Paul Carrol, not Paul carl I'm sorry, the athletic guy.

Speaker 3 (45:36):
Oh my names are just getting too old. He wrote
the story when when when TJ.

Speaker 2 (45:42):
I guess got his thing, talked about Stanley Johnson and
he was a freshman and TJ was a senior, I
guess by this time, and Stanley was being Stanley, kind
of being the cocky freshman kid and he don't screw
up my senior year. And you're not gonna do this
to us. You're gonna play we want you to play,
don't mess around.

Speaker 4 (46:01):
And you know what Stanley needed that you, no question,
he needed a lot more, no question, probably throughout his career.
But that makes him who they are, that makes TJJ yeah,
and that's who makes what makes yeah. Yeah for sure.
And you know you kind of saw it last year
when they're going through the lows and the highs. No
matter how many times he got hit, no matter how

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far they were down, he was in there. He was
in there taking the blows until finally, I think in
the BYU game, they pulled them in the last like
three minutes of the game. But most guys are going
to be like, you know what, we're down by thirty,
just take me out. Yeah, I'm tired of It's.

Speaker 7 (46:38):
Not only that him staying in the game. He's not
plenty fingers and then he's pointing them at himself. Right,
I need to play I need to play better, YadA YadA.
It's easy for us, for guys like us to be, oh, well,
the left guard missed missed this block. Sure No, Noah
was going to say, I didn't get the ball out
in time, right.

Speaker 4 (46:59):
Well, and you know what is critical on himself and
rightfully so he saw throughout the season. You missed the
tight end wide over, wide open, over the middle of
the field. You missed this receiver over the middle of
the field. You threw this pick here because you got
tunnel vision with t mac and every press conference it
wasn't oh, this guy's well that. No, you're right, I
miss that. That's my bad. I got to get better
on that.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
So how do you think he's gonna do it? I
maybe already asked you this question, but how do you
think he's gonna do without his safety inknit?

Speaker 4 (47:22):
I think he's gonna do better because he knows, he
knows somewhere else there isn't that that blanket right there,
and that thought in your head, Well, I'm just gonna
throw it up to Teta Row and see if he
can come down with it. And I think there's a
lot more talent in the receiving room now. You don't
have the guy like tetro Roe McMillan. I don't think
there is a guy like that, sure, but you have

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better depth to through six than you did last season
because no offense to Chris Hunter, who's played very well
and probably will be a key piece bearers under this season.
He didn't come on until the last what like four
games of the season, and outside of that, you can
name me a consistent target on Arizona or a guy
that could get open. Now you have Javian Watley, you
have Luke wis On, you have uh, Chris Hunter, Chris Hudson,

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you have you have guys on the offense.

Speaker 2 (48:09):
Do you I couldn't be critical with Gonzalez because we
just got him on the phone right now.

Speaker 3 (48:13):
And how last year felt?

Speaker 15 (48:15):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (48:15):
Do you think they're gonna be They're gonna be better, right,
You're gonna be better?

Speaker 4 (48:19):
How much better defensively or as a team both, So defensively,
I think they're gonna be tremendously better. And I think
they would have been good last year because they're gonna
be healthier, okay until they're not healthy, until they're not
at least to start, And I think there's more depth.
And I think unlike coach Akina, who I think they
did a terrific job considering all the injuries that he

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dealt with, I think, unlike him, you're gonna see Gonzalez
switch stuff up. I kinda kind of sat in that
four two five, we're gonna play zone coverage. We're gonna
lit's with the front four, and if you beat us
that way, you beat us that way, and it kind
of killed them throughout the season. I don't think the
defense was not to blame, No, no, but I think
you're gonna see more of a willing to switch things up.
One thing's not working. They're gonna come in with a

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three four five three three five And he's an aggressive dude, aggresive,
aggressive dude.

Speaker 3 (49:06):
Any want to give help, give me his game plan.
I just think they're going to be more aggressive.

Speaker 4 (49:11):
And then as a team overall, I think they're gonna
be much better. Does that mean you know, more way
nine wins? No, I don't think so. But somewhere between
that five to seven mark I think is the golden point.
And right now, if I had to pick right now
without training camp, which is huge, you got to see
how they are in training camp, I would say it
was gonna go six and six and get sobal game.
We'll see what. I love the schedule, I like what

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they have, I love the coaching changes they've made, but
we'll see what they have in training camp. That number
could go up or stay the same.

Speaker 7 (49:42):
I'm kind of in that same mindset six and six,
six and six, maybe not even not even just looking
at wins or losses. I just think they're going to
be a lot more competitive. Do we know what the
schedule is?

Speaker 4 (49:54):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (49:54):
So the schedule I just pulled it up. That's why
go ahead and give me a game. We'll go game
by game, even though it's it's May fifth.

Speaker 4 (50:03):
Training camp.

Speaker 7 (50:05):
First game versus Hawaii home against Hawaiian. Okay, we'll give it.
Home against Weaver State. Two home against Kansas State, close loss,
two to one and one. The first road trip to
Iowa State lost two and two. Versus Oklahoma State at home.

Speaker 4 (50:20):
I'll win. I think Oklahoma State is really after last season,
and Gundy since Lake.

Speaker 7 (50:24):
It's okay, let's go with you in three and two,
b y U at home, three and three at Houston win, Okay,
four and three at Colorado the four and four listen
because it's like Colorado home against Kansas.

Speaker 3 (50:40):
Kansas pretty good.

Speaker 4 (50:42):
They weren't good last year.

Speaker 3 (50:43):
They weren't four and five, four and five, five four.

Speaker 4 (50:45):
I'm gonna say.

Speaker 3 (50:45):
Five and five and four, Okay at Cincinnati five and five.

Speaker 2 (50:50):
If I'm gonna you're gonna get Kansas we're gonna take
away kids five and five.

Speaker 3 (50:55):
Last home game against Baylor.

Speaker 4 (50:57):
I think they get that win.

Speaker 2 (50:58):
Okay, home game, home game, Okay, well, six and play
and the the trip to tep six and six and six.

Speaker 3 (51:05):
Okay, with with some wiggle room in there, because we
kind of, you know, wish was six and six. Okay,
maybe a bowl game.

Speaker 4 (51:12):
Maybe maybe six and six that's that qualifies. But I
think they're, like we talked about Cincinnati, that's a winnable game. Colorado,
there's two.

Speaker 3 (51:20):
There's two, and there's two or three in there that
you can go either way.

Speaker 4 (51:22):
Yeah, Colorado, you don't know what they're gonna be do
without Shore and without Travis Hunter. And the fact of
the matter is, out of those twelve games, eight are
in the state of Arizona, seven are at home, eight
in the state of Arizona. You'll only leave the state
four times.

Speaker 3 (51:36):
So if he goes six and six, what does that mean.

Speaker 4 (51:40):
He goes six and six, he goes a successful year,
and I think recruiting goes up and his timetable at
Arizona is extended.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
So I think, yeah, it's yeah, how you're going to
get rid of a guy that's six and six and improving.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
And improving, and you're making the right games. The recruiting class,
I thought this past recruiting class, for all the trouble
that they had this season, I thought they pieced together
a pretty nice class at top forty, top fifty class.
This recruiting class coming up, I could see being in
that top twenty top thirty.

Speaker 2 (52:09):
Range, given that you've been in the recruiting business for
a while now and you're no cage vetteran if you
want to call it yourself. Back at thirty, sure, where
should Arizona be recruiting wise? You said, top thirty fifty, whatever,
Where should they be?

Speaker 4 (52:26):
I should compete, to compete, I think, to compete in
the Big twelve, and to compete at a national level,
they should consistently be in the top thirty five.

Speaker 3 (52:35):
And is it possible?

Speaker 4 (52:37):
I think it's possible. So you saw Jetfish have a
top thirty five class and a top number nineteen class,
which is highest ranking recruiting class in Arizona history, and
then you saw the results some other results. They did
very good. And then when Mike Stoops was here, they
were consistently getting top thirty recruiting classes. And yes, you
know eight and five, eight and five, and they kind
of fell apart. But you had NFL dudes on those rocks.

Speaker 2 (53:00):
And it's very parent Arizona just from the draft here.
I mean they got they got people.

Speaker 4 (53:04):
Where rich Rod his name wasn't recruiting there in that
fifty to seventy range. Somebody is even ninety.

Speaker 3 (53:10):
I think his ego was part of that problem where
he thought he can coach them up.

Speaker 4 (53:13):
I think it's ego. And I also think defensive staff
saying not not caring enough about defense, bringing over that
West Virginia staff that wasn't good defensively. At West Virginia.
You didn't want to recruit and didn't want to recruit
and were older dudes. You just didn't care defensively.

Speaker 3 (53:26):
What do you have against older dudes? So you've said
that a few times.

Speaker 4 (53:28):
The older dudes they don't like to change.

Speaker 2 (53:30):
Yeah, and in college they don't like to change more
momentum a more important note.

Speaker 3 (53:39):
Yeah, they don't like momentum.

Speaker 4 (53:40):
We don't got it.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
Momentum.

Speaker 4 (53:42):
Actually, you gotta adapt with the times.

Speaker 3 (53:45):
Yes, yes, you think you very much, so we gotta
shave I need to.

Speaker 2 (53:48):
But I agree with you. I agree with you. Thirty five,
top thirty five, There was no possible.

Speaker 3 (53:53):
Can they do that?

Speaker 4 (53:54):
I think they can this upcoming recruit again, I think
anywhere from that twenty to thirty range is a realistic
actually rotation for this up and recruiting class. Okay, you're
just gonna win if they have a successful because you could,
you could get all these guys committed before the season
starts there let's say twentieth in recruiting, right, and then
all of a sudden you start losing and teams are like,
you really want to go over there? Oh of course,

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look what they're doing. Okay, I'm going to decommit. You
see that all the time. So you have to be
able to show consistent growth in a program. Yeah, Jed
was headed there until he was Yeah no, because imagine
what in no offensive Brendan or anybody on the staff. Now,
but I get it that they had that top that
number nineteen class and they had a thirty five class.

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You go ten and three with a alimable Imagine what
the recruiting would have been.

Speaker 3 (54:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (54:40):
No, the ball was rolling the balls wrong, and you
can imagine. But doesn't mean it's going to guarantee it,
but it is what it is, I'll be ready to go. Yeah, okay,
let's go and come back. And then we'll get some
breaking news.

Speaker 3 (54:51):
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