Tuesday, June 17, Hour 1

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Speaker 1 (00:02):
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Speaker 2 (00:15):
Hey, good afternoon, everybody. Welcome to I on the Ball
here on Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Rivera and
with me today is Dave Silver Usual Tuesday Spot Day.

Speaker 3 (00:25):
Welcome back back in again.

Speaker 2 (00:27):
You didn't bring a jacket.

Speaker 3 (00:27):
Didn't bring a jacket. Kind of the coldest studio I've
ever been in, but it's great to be here.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
You could run outside, come back in and feel true.

Speaker 3 (00:35):
It's refreshed for like two minutes summertime, and Tucson is
here and it's not even summer.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
At least. We're paying our electric bill here at the
studio too much though, because it's like sixty five degrees. Yeah.
If I catch gold, I know who to sue. No, No,
just just joking, just joking. I love my job. Hey,
good see Dave. For a lot of stuff going on.
Let's start with some breaking news. You go on some baseball.

Speaker 3 (00:58):
Yeah yeah, I mean Oregon State's trying to stay alive
against Louisville, who you know, knocked out the Wildcats. A
couple of days ago. It's six to six. They're playing
in the ninth inning. The Beavers have just scored a
couple of runs in the top of the ninth similar,
kind of a similar situation. Louisville bode this time was
the one that made the cost of the error. There's
two outs and they do have runners at second and third,

(01:20):
so Oregon State still has a chance and they could
be going to extra innings.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Yeah, well there it's the top right, it's the top
of the sixth, top to the ninth with six so
Louisville still has a chance. But they scored the runs
on the same type of miscue that Arizona had.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
Yeah, it was six to four. They had bases loaded,
grounder a short and the ball went right underneath his glove.
So I don't know, he was obviously thinking maybe about
getting a double play at least didn't get anything. Two
runs came in. Now they still have runners at second
and third, and again they do have the bottom of
the ninth to deal with as well. But earlier, you know,
LSU played UCLA, so that one went to LSU nine

(01:55):
to five. Winter That was a winner's bracket game that
was kind of carried over from yesterday with the weather.
So they're both.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Still LSU and mister Johnson's continues to roll.

Speaker 3 (02:05):
Yeah, so they get their two wins, so they're in
great shape. Yeah, whereas you know, UCLA is gonna have
to fight back out of the elimination game the next
time they played.

Speaker 2 (02:14):
Okay, I don't know Jay. I did on one big
story on him when he first got here. I don't
know him that well, but given the anamasity the Arizona
has for him, he must be a very good coach. Yeah.
What he's done is pretty good, right, because he knows
the game and knows how to handle all the kids.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
I was kind of waiting to see you a few
more stories about that. Well, both teams were there.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
We we talked about that yesterday and we talked about
it with Michael Lev. They had their press conference, right,
but I don't think Arizona people were there yet. The
press conference of Michael Lev was not there, but he
had a question in the queue on Zoom. Each coach
has thirty minutes. Some of the other schools went twenty minutes,

(02:57):
fifteen minutes, twenty minutes. LSU took all its thirty minutes
and didn't have a chance to go to any zoom questions,
so he didn't get.

Speaker 3 (03:04):
Never got the question. I know, you think that would
have been one of the you know, prime stories of the weekend.

Speaker 2 (03:09):
Yeah, but people on Els you don't give a crap,
I mean, because they've already dealt with him, right, Yeah, yeah,
there's only people that do is from here.

Speaker 3 (03:15):
From Tucson. And who was there. Basically we had a
couple of riots.

Speaker 2 (03:19):
Right, Javiier, we had Brian, we had Lori, but not
a whole lot. The thing is, I know Jabier was
not there because I guess this flight delayed the day.
I don't know about Brian on his situation, but yeah,
it was not talked.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
About and not being in the same bracket, and it
would have you know, again, I think we talked last week.
I think the only time they would have even gotten
to play each other would have been in the championship series. Yeah, so,
you know right, I mean it was nice.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
It's the same situation if Arizona plays in the same
bracket as Texas and basketball. And not that the departure
was hate field or hate field or otherwise. But Sean,
you know, can you talk about your time here in
Arizona you know he's gonna be diplomatic and you know
it's going to happen. Oh yeah, at some point it's

(04:04):
gonna happen.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
Likes to do that, and they'll put together some matchup
with where they meet and you know, the Sweet sixteen
or something somewhere along the way.

Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah. Yeah, so we'll see what, you know, maybe not
still average. I'm not older.

Speaker 3 (04:16):
You know, Christie, who are you again?

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Yeah? Yeah, you look for me here.

Speaker 3 (04:21):
Yeah, I wouldn't be surprised too, if well, I don't
know if Sean Miller wants to do it, but you know,
if they if they do set up a series here,
I don't think I remember. I mean Greg Burn's kind
of done that with Alabama basketball especially, so yeah, maybe
not with basketball, but no.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
You know, he's weird. He's rear view mirrored that ERRS
on a program and why why bring it up? Right?
It's kind of like Tommy and uh and uh Gonzaga.
It went no part of that, yeah, no part of it.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
Yeah, But I mean he didn't leave under no weird
circumstances there either. And he's I'm sure he's you know,
he's still good buddies with.

Speaker 2 (04:54):
Oh yea with Mark f you. Yeah, they don't want
to mess with that. If they happen to play each other, well,
that's just what it is, right, not not deliberately trying
to play that, right. Yeah, So we'll see what happens
today's show. We have time to get calls, maybe ten minutes.
We're gonna have a rich Tomy here on the show
at that three seventeen.

Speaker 4 (05:12):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
He's part of that big Coaching Alliance thing that he's
I think he's the president or CEO, so something like that.
Tell me the Coaching Alliance a positive coaching alliance. Yes,
he's been there for a while. We've had him on
the show a number of times in the past. I
think last year was at this time was about the
same time he came on, or the last time he
came on. We'll talk about that. His dad's legacy. I

(05:34):
think they've started something with that, and just maybe how
his dad would be handling Nil, what do you care
about this stuff? Of course, what do you have to do? Yeah,
but you know Howie would he handle his says, you know,
le's somebody else. I'm just here to coach. Let's somebody
else deal with that.

Speaker 3 (05:47):
Yeah, Well, it seems like a lot of the teams
are doing right, aren't they hiring these gms and stuff
like that.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
Yeah, with one side, I kind of like, how'd that go?
How would you pay the kid better?

Speaker 3 (05:56):
Proxactly? Yeah, well, I mean Arizona apparently they're running for
a pretty good court that we're reading today. A four
star QB from the La area. Oscar Rios is his name.
He's looking at Arizona and UCLA has two choices, so yeah.

Speaker 2 (06:12):
Could be good, could be good. Did you get I'm
gonna go into a place I hate going into what
I'm gonna do it? Anyway? Did you get caught up
in the old the recruiting stuff when you were on
that side of the more of.

Speaker 3 (06:24):
It was locally, I would say, I don't know. I mean,
you know, we kind of we would go out on
signing day and do a big, big day of coverage
things like that, but it's more about coverage, Yeah, but
not like ongoing unless some unless one of the you know,
four stars or five star players from here, was going
to make some announcement during this during the year, we
would do that. But no, we didn't like, hey, here's

(06:45):
the daily update kind of thing like newspapers sometimes.

Speaker 2 (06:48):
I hated and my as I got out of it, obviously,
I used to say, and I still hate it because Okay,
you get all these recruits these oh god, what a
great recruit, What a great recruit. Okay, talk to me
in four years and how it turned back, because you
don't know until it's happened. Yeah, yeah, Okay, you know
I'm going to the moon, Dave, I'm going to the moon.
I'm promised, I'm gonna go to them, Dave. If you

(07:10):
tell me this, Dave, Steve, when you get to the moon,
you tell me it'll be a story. When you get
to the moon. Don't tell me about the moon. Yeah,
because that's how the recruiting news. Oh we got this guy,
we got this guy. Let me tell you they've had
some pretty good recruits over the years due how many
find them? Never how many roseballs? Exactly. Yeah, I mean
it's one of the situation. And the coaches will say
that too.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Usually. You know, I'm big, you know, when I have
a signing day events, you know, the boosters coming in
or whatever. Yeah, and they kind of temper their feelings
sometimes just by saying, you know what, let's just see
how this plays out, right, especially in football, and you're
bringing in like over twenty kids and maybe half pan out.
Never yeah, never even get on the field.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Sure. The one guy that I talk about every now
and again is Retrock. He went to the festival, right,
played very well. He had some pretty good recruits to
wear brothers or something like that numbers, and they didn't
pan out. And I thought he'd get some legs from
that greatness or that's the right word, right success, And no,

(08:10):
it didn't happen. It was still talking about Okay, gee's
he's still talking about we're not recruiting, you know what
I'm saying. It didn't mean much.

Speaker 3 (08:15):
Well, I mean even Arizona after the Fiesta Bowl, and
we can maybe talk to rich about this. After that festival,
you know, they kind of sputtered the next year after
the twelve and one season exactly. You know, they didn't
They didn't do great and actually, you know coach toll
Me only lasted I guess another one more year after
that ninety eight after having such a great ninety eight year. Sure,
it just didn't didn't pan out. Yeah, No, just the

(08:37):
way it is.

Speaker 2 (08:37):
That's why I don't get too caught up and into
recruiting and all these guys because a lot of them
don't pan out. You know when Seun got here, Remember
you had the Sayah Turner, Sad Johnson, all these guys, no,
not so loud even make it to January. They made
it till the end of the year and then they
were gone. Yeah, they were gone. That was fast. Yeah, yeah,

(08:58):
and the best guys were thereon Gore's a guy that
wasn't really recruited at TJ. McConnell and and it got
just a dude right. In fact, we're going to have
the beat writer for the Indianapolis Star here at the
four seventeen. He's trying to get out of Denver and
I guess there's been a lot of fight delays, so
we're gonna have him on at four seventeen just talk
to talk about him and McConnell and and after it. Yeah,

(09:21):
because TJ was a fantastic again.

Speaker 3 (09:24):
Inster against yesterday and they took him out, which is
kind of weird. I mean, as soon as he left
the court they couldn't do anything offensively.

Speaker 2 (09:31):
There was a sprink there where he scored like almost
every point. Yeah, you're thinking what and he was near
the basket kind of gibber jabbering in and out and
blah blah blah.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
I mean, all these other guys are out there trying
to set up for three point shots and he's the
one penetrating and dishing.

Speaker 5 (09:44):
Right.

Speaker 3 (09:44):
He took a couple of shots too, but yeah, I
mean he was so effective and then as soon as
he was done, if he was tired or whatever, but
you know, he take him out. And that's Haliburton was
was just a shell of himself all game. Yeah, and
they couldn't do anything. That's one to five turnovers and
what five possessions. It's pretty bad.

Speaker 2 (10:01):
That's what I wanted to ask the beat writer and
just lost his name real quick. But he's going to
come on here to see what that the coach has
this Rick Carlisle, Yeah, Carlo has this has this system
that he uses. It's justin do prick, where where he

(10:21):
must have some set sequences of events to put in
Mathron and and McConnell and then once those sort out throughout.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Yeah, you know, it's just a strange kind of a
it's an interesting rotation rotation because I mean, again TJ
was really the impetus of that rally.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
Last night.

Speaker 3 (10:38):
Yeah, and he's been you know, pretty good throughout most
of the series, and you know when he's when he's
on the bench, they're struggling just to get the ball in.
I mean, they couldn't even run any kind of offense.
It was pretty weird.

Speaker 2 (10:51):
Okay, so we'll have them told me at three seventeen
and uh do prick pric at the four seventeen.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:00):
The meantime, it looks like the Wildcats may have lost
their pitching coach.

Speaker 6 (11:02):
Oh.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Yeah, that was the other one.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
That was the other breaking from Kevin Van. He was huge.
He's been big in recruiting and big inches i think
messaging to some of these guys. But it looks like
San Diego State it's going to be his next destination.
It's Brian Peterson's reporting that in all sports on easy
Desert swarm. But yeah, it's gonna be an interesting could

(11:23):
be an interesting series of events if players want to
go with him possibly or maybe the recruits who we had,
you know, kind of hoping to get here may want
to go with him there.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
Well, that was the thing I think that Michael lef
talked about a little yesterday. Because the chip is not
under contract, right yet at least that we know of.

Speaker 3 (11:40):
And neither is this guy. Neither is Kevin.

Speaker 2 (11:42):
And then I was kind of the part so that
he can give Chip some money, more money and his
assistants more money. Well, it's hard to even if you've
got more money, it's hard to turn down a head
coaching job. And the San Diego State have they been
good in the past? Have they been good in the
recent PA?

Speaker 3 (11:58):
Not really, I don't think. I mean, I'm you know,
I'm gonna lum so I sort of keep my eye
on it. But I mean, Tony gwyn was their coach,
you know, many ten to fifteen years ago, but they've
kind of just not really been much of a factor.

Speaker 2 (12:09):
And you think they would be, right, Yeah, given the
good facilities, good weather.

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Obviously whatever league they're in these days might be an issue, right,
So who knows how the competition is going to be.
I guess are they going to be in the PAC twelve?
Is that one of the schools?

Speaker 2 (12:24):
Well, that's the thing, I mean, that's I think that's
a big blow to Chip because this guy was pretty
good with the arms. Yeah, they did wonders, So we'll see.
I guess six to six at the bottom of the
ninth now with the little in Oregon State, So you know,
strange things happened to other teams, not just Arizona.

Speaker 3 (12:45):
Yeah, especially well, and then you think about the players
and all the transfer portal stuff and all the all
the different things that have been going on. But now
when your coaches are going to and what are the
players going to think? Hey, you know, maybe I'll go
to someplace like San Diego or someplace where you know,
we've got basically got Cramkowski and Smith Bailey, the two
top two pitchers would be coming back. You'd hope that

(13:06):
would still be the case. Yeah, and that you know,
they wouldn't take off, but you never Now you don't
know what their relationship was with their coach, right, and
that maybe was something that he would be able to
entice them to go to California.

Speaker 2 (13:17):
Yeah, I guess. Well, in a matter of time, we'll
find out what's going on down the road. Okay, let's
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Hey, welcome back to my about here on Fox Sports
Fortune fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera. You're Dave silver Phone. We
have rich Tony from the Positive Coaching Alliance.

Speaker 3 (18:37):
How are you doing?

Speaker 6 (18:38):
Rich doing great?

Speaker 5 (18:40):
How are you guys?

Speaker 2 (18:41):
We're doing well. Thanks for joining us. Good to hear
your voice. It's been a while you too, Yeah, well,
how are things going up to the Coaching Alliance?

Speaker 6 (18:49):
It's been great.

Speaker 4 (18:50):
We're been a busy summer for us.

Speaker 6 (18:53):
We're just doing our workshops out in the community and
just growing across the country. A lot of great strategic
partnerships we're putting together, and uh, you know, it's nice
to see us keep growing and making an impact. So
it's been fun.

Speaker 3 (19:12):
What what is your specific role with the with the Alliance?
I know your title, but what do you do say
day to day to work with kids and work with coaches.

Speaker 4 (19:22):
Yeah, so we, uh you know, obviously our mission is
uh developed better athletes, better people.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
So we you know, spend a lot of our time
working with school districts and youth sports organizations and really.

Speaker 4 (19:34):
Any any organization, and you know, provide tools and resources
for parents, coaches, and athletes on essentially all the off
the field stuff, character, leadership, development, social media, how to
manage their you know, their brand.

Speaker 6 (19:49):
If you will, just just really trying to teach.

Speaker 2 (19:51):
All the all the.

Speaker 6 (19:52):
Great lessons that sports teaches us. And really that's that's
the you know, you play sports your whole life and
you learn the great lessons. I think you know a
lot of you know, I always liking it to my
dad and how he taught amazing lessons and made such
an impact in people's lives players.

Speaker 4 (20:11):
You know, that still ring true today and I think,
you know, he really understood that, and I.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Think you know more coaches like that really is what
put me in this role and just just the impact
someone can have in someone's life and really changed their lives.
So that's that's kind of the fun part.

Speaker 4 (20:27):
Of what I do and really trying to deliver that message.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
So I don't you know, you've been on the show
a number of times over a number of years. Was
there a model before this or is this the first
and only?

Speaker 6 (20:42):
I mean, there's other groups around the country that do
similar things, but you know, we're we're probably one of
the largest in this space across the country. We have,
you know, work we do in all fifty states and internationally.

Speaker 4 (20:56):
So really we're we're sort of the gold standard when
it comes to this type of character and leadership development.
And you know, my job, I run Arizona primarily, but
I also oversee Whai as well as Nevada, so I've
got kind of our our little region here that I
kind of oversee, which is fun and uh, you know,

(21:16):
just just really trying to raise raised, you know, support
development funding to help us put our workshops on and
make sure we're delivering as many as we can for
for everyone that wants.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
To do it.

Speaker 3 (21:29):
So do you go to like a a high school
and get you know, gather various sports together, like you know,
girls soccer and boys baseball. I mean, is that the
way it works? Are you trying to individual at the Yeah?

Speaker 6 (21:41):
Really, we do.

Speaker 4 (21:42):
Well, it's it's it looks a lot different in a
lot of places. Ideally, you know, we'll work with the
school district. We actually do a lot with Tucson Unified
School District where we'll you know, they'll bring in their
athletic directors, we'll do some training for all the coaches
at you know, specific schools. Usually it's you know, we'll
work with the district and then we'll go out to

(22:02):
each school individually. We work closely with the Arizona Interscholastics Association,
so we'll do training programs at their big coaches meetings
every year where you have hundreds of coaches in the room,
you know, just just really trying to deliver this content
to you know, the coaches first, the ads, you know,
the athletes, and then obviously the parents are another huge

(22:25):
part of what we do. So we can do them
in person or you know online or zoom. And we
also have you know, online training courses we do that
you don't need a person or a trainer per se.
So really it's you know, it looks a lot different
in a lot of places across the country, but you know,
the impact here in Arizona, we probably impact close to

(22:46):
eighty thousand kids a.

Speaker 2 (22:47):
Year across the state.

Speaker 4 (22:49):
So we're all over, you know, southern Arizona, here in Phoenix,
as well as northern Arizona. So it's it's really widespread,
and you know, we're just we're just trying to trying
to a little difference.

Speaker 2 (23:01):
So you've been with them four or five years, maybe more?

Speaker 4 (23:05):
Yeah, shoot, I guess it's like six or seven years
now at least, So.

Speaker 2 (23:10):
Let me let me track. So let me ask you,
although you probably every year is different, right, everybody comes
in and new parents come in and new leadership comes in.
Do you see more of a need now than maybe
when you first came in? And I say that because
I'm on the show a lot saying that the worst
thing to happen to kids or parents because of now

(23:31):
it's nil. You know, their kid, little junior might be
the key to success and getting the financials for the family.
Does that make any sense? Maybe not. I lost him.
He'll probably call back. But you understand the question, right, Dave,
where it's kind.

Speaker 3 (23:48):
Of like, yeah, I mean there's things that our generation
wasn't even thinking about right as we're coming out of
high school.

Speaker 2 (23:54):
He's back, He's back. Did you get my question?

Speaker 13 (23:56):
All?

Speaker 2 (23:56):
Right?

Speaker 4 (23:57):
Yeah, I think I did. Sorry, I'm not sure what
happened there.

Speaker 6 (24:01):
Yeah, you know what, I think there.

Speaker 4 (24:02):
Is a big need now and I think it really,
you know, social media has really changed sports in general.
I mean I never had that, you know, we never
had that grown up. I mean just there's just such
a one upness to you know, everybody on social media.
We're all guilty of it. You know, our kids, you know,

(24:23):
really fall fall victim, do a lot of bad things. So,
you know, just really, you know, one of the courses
we teach a lot is about people managing their brand.
I mean obviously we see kids posting stuff, and you know,
recruiters are looking at your at your at your handle
every you know, so really what you put out there
is your brand. So you know, obviously kids kids in.

Speaker 6 (24:45):
Their handling theirs their social media, and.

Speaker 4 (24:47):
Then obviously parents are a huge, huge, you know issue
these days. I think It's always been that way, but
I think more so than ever, we all see the
videos of the fights and the you know, just the
horrible stuff going on. So I think, you know, people
lose sight really quickly of why we play sports, and
you know, we need to let the kids, you know,

(25:07):
be be the ones on the field and we need
to cheer them on. But you know, parents a lot
of times will ruin that as well as coaches. So
you know, really, I think it's needed now more than
ever with all the mental health issues going on.

Speaker 6 (25:19):
Across the country and just different stuff.

Speaker 4 (25:21):
So we're, you know, we're at the forefront of all
that and it's been been fun to kind of be
a part of it.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
If I could have real quick So so in my
time covering Luke for you know, the almost twenty five years,
there may have been one or two, maybe three. Parents
are kind of helicopter even their kids at this level, right,
so you know, what's going on with the son. He's
gonna getting playing time, YadA, YadA. I'm wondering because you're
the son of diactomy. I'm sure were there many or

(25:49):
many parents have gotten involved because I'm sure that he
kind of said, Dad, I'm mightna have to deal with
this again.

Speaker 4 (25:58):
Not as much as you'd think, honestly, I think he well,
the cool thing about him was he had a pretty
good open door, so he actually embraced talking to parents.
I don't really know specifically. I'm sure there were some
tough conversations, you know, with my boys not playing or
nothing of that, and you know, I get I'm sure
there was. I don't I never did really see that,

(26:18):
but I gotta think. I mean, I remember talking to
Chip Hale when he was managing the Diamondbacks and he
said he had parents reaching out to him about on
the diamond you know, it's just like it never ends.
You know, It's like it's it's just he was laughing
when because he Chip does some stuff for us off
and on. So it's just funny. You know, it really

(26:39):
never ends. But I obviously it gets a little a
little less and less the higher you get.

Speaker 6 (26:43):
Up, I would imagine.

Speaker 3 (26:45):
So I was gonna say, at least on your LinkedIn page,
you have you know, senior Regional Director DA DA DA,
and you have the Dictomy Legacy Fund. Can you explain that?

Speaker 4 (26:55):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (26:56):
So we So when I when my dad passed.

Speaker 4 (26:58):
Away in twenty nineteen, I decided to create a you know,
essentially a fund under his name through Positive Coaching Alliance,
where we would use that money to do impact in
Arizona and Hawaii specifically the places where he coached and
you know, meant the most to him. So once I

(27:19):
you know, we created that in twenty nineteen and then
fast forward to you know, this year. It's still going strong.
You know, we've raised over six hundred thousand dollars through
that fund, which is pretty amazing. And uh, you know,
we that fund goes into a reserve account which I control.
It basically will earmark towards specific programming. So if there's

(27:41):
a school district or a need out in the community
that can't have funding, I will pull funding from that
and we'll use that to do the do the work.
So it's really been fun to to have that. It's
really been I mean, over the years just supported tremendously.
The Pebble Beach Coaches Class Thick which was just up
in Pebble Beach. My dad started that years and you know,

(28:06):
thirty forty years ago and it's still going. So that's
a that's a it's a golf tournant where all the
college you know, D one coaches come, they bring some donors.
I know Brent Brennan was just up there Dino was
up there and they bring some of the U of
A donors and they played pebble and figlass, couple other
courses up there and and it's just a fun time

(28:26):
for them to get together. But they do donate, you know,
to a specific charity each year, and luckily for PCA,
they've they've chosen us the last few years to kind
of underwrite to you know, support so which makes sense
because obviously my dad was a big part of why
that tournament exists, and it just seems to really.

Speaker 2 (28:45):
Tie in well.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
So it's fun for me to be able to just
still carry on his legacy the way the way it is,
and uh, you know, people more than ever even to
this day, just just really appreciate the impact that he
had and and I just I love to be able
to tell people about him and obviously just continue his
impact and and just just a really great thing. And

(29:09):
people can learn more about that if they go to
Positive Coach dot org backslash Tony Fund f U n
D and they'll see all the information there about about
what they what that is and if they ever wanted
to give or anything to that.

Speaker 2 (29:23):
You also something coming up next month, right, I guess
somewhere in Payson.

Speaker 6 (29:28):
Yeah, we have our annual fundraiser golf tournament and called
our Beat the Heat Classic.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (29:34):
We do it up last year, last couple years we've
done it up at the Rim Club in Payson, which
is a beautiful private course up there. Obviously we want
to try and get out of the heat, so people
have been you know, willing and able to make that
drive up to Paysin. It's about twenty degrees cooler. This
year it's at Chaparral Pines and uh, just a fun day.

(29:54):
We get all the you know Cardinals and the Diamondbacks.
You of a sends up a team issue. We had
a lot of great support from the High School Association and.

Speaker 6 (30:04):
Just just a great day.

Speaker 4 (30:05):
And you know, obviously it's it's to raise money for
PCA and just just a fun day. Mike Candrea is
playing this year. So just just a really fun experience
and look forward to it every year.

Speaker 3 (30:18):
Before we let you go, what would Dick tell me
be like as a coach in twenty twenty five, twenty
twenty six, would he be able to handle everything that's
happened in the sports Man?

Speaker 4 (30:27):
You know what I've talked. I was just talking to
someone about that the other day.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (30:32):
I mean, honestly, I think he would. I think he
would adjust. But at the same time, I know a
lot of coaches that I've talked to, like in his era,
who are still coaching, and you know, just saying how
tough it is. I mean, it's it's really it's really
hard to develop a program the way my dad did,
like by you know, bringing in young guys, developing them,

(30:57):
you know, and he just can't do that anymore. You
just really have to recruit back your own team. I
think he would be.

Speaker 6 (31:04):
Great at you know, keeping guys around.

Speaker 4 (31:06):
And I feel like he would do well. But I
do think it's such a challenge. You know, you look
at Nick Saban and guys that are just like forgetting
I'm done with this, and you know, it's it's difficult,
and you know, it's it's a whole new world, and
it's changed college sports in general. I mean it's you
hardly even see guys recruiting high school much anymore, you know,
other than football. It's just like you plucked from.

Speaker 3 (31:28):
The other d one.

Speaker 4 (31:30):
Programs less of programs, and you know, I don't know,
I got I like to think he would do great,
but at the same time, I feel like it would
be a little bit of a frustrating experience form So.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
Yeah, no question. Just maybe lastly for me, your baseball
program did very well. Did it make you proud.

Speaker 6 (31:50):
The Cats?

Speaker 4 (31:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (31:52):
Yeah, they I was.

Speaker 4 (31:53):
So happy for them and Chip and just great to
see them, you know, get to them. Obviously, you know,
would like to see him play a couple more games,
but I'm very proud of them and just great to
see them really get back to Themah is just a
feat in itself. So just really proud of them and
excited for for the future. Chip's done a great job,

(32:15):
and just just really happy for him.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Okay, maybe lastly, you give us that website so if
people want to help or or need help or whatever.

Speaker 4 (32:24):
Yeah, you know, in general, if you go to positive
coach dot org, you can you know, see all the
great things we do and obviously get in contact with
with anyone there and myself on there. And then if
you wanted to get more information on the Dicktmey Legacy Fund,
that's Positive coach dot org backslash HEMI fund, and you

(32:45):
can learn more there and contribute or reach out to
me directly on there and love to get people involved
at all levels. So just appreciate, appreciate you guys helping
me out there.

Speaker 2 (32:56):
Sure of course. Awesome. Good to hear from you. To
Rich take care.

Speaker 4 (33:00):
Yeah, great to hear you, guys. Boys.

Speaker 2 (33:02):
We'll talk fans, Okay, we will, Rich, we will enjoy
that one one hundred and fourteen degree weather.

Speaker 4 (33:06):
Oh geez, now same here, all right, thanks you take care,
Thank you guys.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Take you all right? All right, Rich, tell me good
to talk to him. We'll take a quick break and
come back.

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Speaker 2 (37:00):
They welcome back to I on the Ball here on
Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. I'm Steve Rivera, You're Dave Silver.
If you listen to the promo, give us a call
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five two zero four one, six seventy four forty. I
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(37:22):
have to call them, I'm not too bad. That's good.
But we're fine, We're fine. Uh. There's a final indie
game that we were talking about, Louisville there is.

Speaker 3 (37:31):
The Beavers are out. Louisville wins seven to six, so
Oregon State's eliminated.

Speaker 2 (37:36):
So the last real team that we're familiar.

Speaker 3 (37:38):
With, you see CLA, they're still around. They're gonna play
later tonight again, they already played today. They're gonna play Arkansas.
So Arkansas hasn't lost yet, right, so they have to
beat them twice.

Speaker 2 (37:50):
These formats are strange. I mean, I know they're that wrong. Anyway,
they're pod you know, they're pods. One side one decide
they should just play like the women. I think that
the you.

Speaker 3 (38:00):
Know, I'm sorry Arkansas has they lost their first game,
but anyway, and they're not gonna be able to throw
their pitcher who tossed the no hitter yesterday. So I wonderful.
I'll be able to come back. I would I would
be sure. So believe they get beyond.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Yesterday Monday, Monday, so probably Thursdays Saturday.

Speaker 3 (38:15):
They could play a game Thursday, so we'll see. Will
begin on Saturday. No matter what.

Speaker 2 (38:20):
That was pretty dynamic Yestorday, So we'll see what Arizona does.
I guess they've already elevated the assistant coach to be
the pitching coach. At least that's what what you're seeing.
That's what I saw on Asy Deserts form with Brian
they've already moved him up. Can you find it to
promote John d Run the pitching coach following Kevin Vince's departure,

(38:44):
Sen Ugustin.

Speaker 3 (38:47):
Yeah, it's gonna be interesting. You know, when these coaches leave.
It's one thing when the players leave, but when the
coaches leave, that's a whole another. You know, part of
the of the factor of how these teams are put together,
especially with free free movement. Basically you just want to
get up and go and join your coach, or you
want to go to San Diego or whatever the deal is,
or you want to stay who knows.

Speaker 2 (39:09):
Yeah, you think it's the San Diego State. Well, the
San Diego Union Tribune was the team. That's a news
source that broke the story.

Speaker 3 (39:18):
And Kevin is from San Diego, so sort of makes
sense and natural makes sense. Yeah, yeah, you know San
Diego State, home of our US Open champion by the.

Speaker 2 (39:31):
Way, j J.

Speaker 3 (39:31):
Small, Yeah issue, San Diego State, Alama.

Speaker 2 (39:35):
He's been all over the media last couple of days
doing the rounds.

Speaker 3 (39:38):
Yes, this morning, two different shows.

Speaker 2 (39:40):
Yeah, Today show.

Speaker 3 (39:41):
He was always on there too. Today he was on McAfee.
He was on Sports Center.

Speaker 2 (39:46):
Just a dude too, right, because he lost his card
not too long ago, did he But he was he'd
been so bad he had to be you know whatever,
how that ever works?

Speaker 3 (39:53):
I mean, has a guy ever bogied the first five
holes in the same day round in the last round
and gone on to win. I mean it was such
a while. That was a just the weirdest you golf day.
I mean, I have I'm not a great golfer.

Speaker 2 (40:06):
Yeah me either, because I'm horrible. Yeah, and I hate
being frustrated. I'm supposed to be having fun, true, chasing
that little white ball. Oh damn it, give you water,
I'll find it. Yeah, I'll find it or jactics or
snake areas.

Speaker 3 (40:21):
I mean, remember, you know John Weinstein, the late John
Feinstein wrote all those books about golf, but A good
Walk spoiled.

Speaker 2 (40:29):
Yeah, it was one of the great titles of a
golf book, right, right, that's funny. It's true for me
at least, that's why you want to go golfing. No,
I'd rather drive the cart and tell me where to go. Yeah, yeah,
five four, one seventy calls. We would appreciate the call.
Your thoughts on maybe the baseball season as it concluded Arizona.
I guess Tommy and them have to cut down to

(40:50):
twelve here pretty soon with their guys. I think they're
at eighteen or whatever. Co Pete is having an outstanding
or having that study session up in Colorado spring.

Speaker 3 (41:00):
Yeah, it's interesting. That's a quick process when of these
games beginning. Let's start soon, right, you.

Speaker 2 (41:05):
Know they start the twenty seventh dish twenty seventh next weekend. Yeah,
so they have to still get ready for that and
then go to Switzerland if they have any games.

Speaker 3 (41:12):
It's all good, just be practices thereineam together.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
Yeah, I think so. One of the things I learned
in this that the coaches have no saying who gets
to be on the team. Really, Yeah, it's because they
don't want to be held accountable for your guy or
so it's a it's a group of of other other.

Speaker 3 (41:30):
Than they're like a consortium of coaches. There's like five
of them, pretty big, big ones too, right, I mean
that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (41:37):
Yeah. So so the coaches won't you know, Bell, you
Colpete's gonna be playing for you? So yeah, so no,
So it's a group of coaches from somewhere other place.

Speaker 3 (41:45):
So they're not like Tommy's recruits.

Speaker 2 (41:47):
Right, Well, one of them did not make it, that
Coleman kid, right, Holmes Homes is.

Speaker 3 (41:53):
The one whose brother played it was a Dayton.

Speaker 2 (41:56):
Yeah, I don't I think. So, Okay, okay, so you
know Tommy's out there doing his stuff. We'll see what happens.
He's gone the road again and mister international.

Speaker 3 (42:05):
Yeah, that's gonna be that's gonna be interesting and be
fun for Tommy. I mean, he's kind of on that path.
It looks like where he's going to maybe get into
that whole USA basketball coaching mix that Steve Kerr is
kind of wrapping up, I guess, right, But you know,
it takes a lot of years to get to that level.

Speaker 2 (42:21):
And he's in pretty quickly. Yeah, pretty young. He's you know,
what is the fifteen fifties. Yeah, if that's so.

Speaker 3 (42:28):
Yeah, So he's uh, he's in a good spot. I mean,
it's a lot of respect that USA basketball show up
for him.

Speaker 2 (42:34):
Yeah. Well when you're you know, the right hand man
to you guy, a good zaga, Yeah, and then doing
really well here or you know what's perceived to be
really well. Oh, we'll see. We'll see. In his style,
I think he you know, lets him play, go up
and down, play to their enjoyment. So we'll see. Hold on,
we got to call hello, you're in the air, an iball.

(42:56):
Who's this?

Speaker 4 (42:58):
I trust?

Speaker 13 (42:58):
How you guys doing?

Speaker 2 (42:59):
Richard? What's the word you didn't text me today?

Speaker 4 (43:01):
So hey, hey, it's hot? Hey, I just real quickly.

Speaker 13 (43:05):
You know this tush push controversy with Jalen Hurts, right, yeah, uh,
you know, it's it's kind of boring to sister quarterback sneak.
The thing is this, he he's the strongest quarterback knowing
the history.

Speaker 3 (43:16):
Of the NFL, I believe.

Speaker 13 (43:18):
So that's why it's so successful. And they tried to
change the rules, which didn't work. But you're just gonna
have a hard time starting stopping him. That guy squatted
six hundred pounds his senior year in college. Is that
why they created Can you tell me any any NFL
quarterbacks ever.

Speaker 2 (43:34):
Been that strong?

Speaker 5 (43:36):
Ever?

Speaker 2 (43:36):
Hold on? Hold on up the top of my head.

Speaker 3 (43:39):
Uh no, yeah, hold on, Tim Tebow?

Speaker 4 (43:45):
No, he squatted four or five at Texas.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
And what is Allen's not this strong as No, no.

Speaker 3 (43:54):
Nobody is.

Speaker 4 (43:55):
He led the weight lifting room at the University of Goldcomo.

Speaker 13 (43:58):
And that played there that one year.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
Uh.

Speaker 13 (44:00):
You know, I see him really as an Alabama quarterback.

Speaker 3 (44:02):
But anyway, he's.

Speaker 4 (44:04):
Just too strong, and that's why he's so successful. You know,
you don't change the rules.

Speaker 2 (44:07):
You know.

Speaker 4 (44:07):
They said lou Al Sandra couldn't dump. It was too gloring.

Speaker 13 (44:11):
They outlawed it for a while, you know.

Speaker 4 (44:15):
Uh, it was just his talent.

Speaker 2 (44:17):
That made it able to do it.

Speaker 13 (44:19):
Same thing with this guy. So anyway, whatever anything else,
I wanted to say that the quarterback sneak as part
of football. Football is part of rugby.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
This is the way it rolls. Are we going to
hear anything you don't like it?

Speaker 4 (44:31):
Stopping. We can hear anything Chine.

Speaker 2 (44:34):
The suitors, anything with the suitors, this stuff fault. Uh,
they better be better.

Speaker 13 (44:39):
I think I'm afraid. You know, this is the do
or die year. You know, if they don't, if they
go downhill this year, they could fall into the abyss. Wow,
I'm curious.

Speaker 2 (44:48):
You know, they lost.

Speaker 13 (44:49):
Twenty seven transfers went out, twenty people graduated, and so
you were replacing with transfers and recruits.

Speaker 2 (44:58):
But is that the same?

Speaker 15 (45:00):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (45:01):
We're looking better, We're looking.

Speaker 3 (45:02):
Good, but we'll see.

Speaker 2 (45:03):
Yeah, okay, you whatever, doo care, Thank you, Thanks for
the colle Richards calls in to talk about Oklahoma. That
was yeah, well he already calls in, but he texts
me a lot. Okay.

Speaker 3 (45:13):
Yeah, they're now like in the Big Boy Conference too,
in the SEC, so things are a little bit right,
but different than they were before, right, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
No question. We'll see what happens to the Oklahoma football,
Texas football, you know SEC football.

Speaker 3 (45:27):
He's it's hard to hard to remember that they're in
that league.

Speaker 2 (45:32):
Yeah, but you know they want to be elite, so
let's go.

Speaker 3 (45:35):
That was fun talking a rich You know, his dad
was really one of my all time favorites too. I
was here his entire his entire run. Great memories of
some of the wins and losses, and just the way
he it's perfect. The job Rich has two where he's
he's working with the young players and young kids. Because
Dick was was that way. He was a coach's coach,

(45:57):
and you hear so many great stories about him from
a players always like, oh man, you know the things
I learned from coach? Tell me you go back almost
anybody who came to the program and all and his
years here stories were great.

Speaker 2 (46:09):
And that's what the coaches are supposed to be, right,
you know, the growers of young men into men and
have these stories about you know, fortitude and you know
I always didn't have much, but then I came here
and became a man. Yeah. Yeah, you know.

Speaker 3 (46:22):
They named the practice fields that are, you know, next
to the football facility there, you know, right right by
McHale for coach, and there must have been a kid.
There must have been three hundred players out there. Like
when they did like the dedication ceremonies, it was really nice, right,
I mean, guys just really liked him.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I don't remember, I don't know if you knew this.
But so my starting music at the other place was
this is it from kay Logains blah blah blah, and
I've had it on forever until we moved here where
we could use music, although we might bring it back
and Rich and some of the guys is, why do
you run that music? It's one of my favorite all
time songs. Back in seventy nine, Magic Johnson and Larry
Bird and all. It was used to be this that

(47:01):
used to be the shining moment song back of the
day when I was younger, So I used it. I
always loved that song, and he says, well, that was
my dad's favorite song. I said, really, it's no coincidence.
I didn't you know. I didn't do that because of that,
But he said, because there was so lyrics in the
in the song that you know that kind of stood
out to him. You know, this is your moment, baby,
grab it.

Speaker 3 (47:21):
We did a thing on TV GOT a long time ago.
It's called let me think of the name of it,
where he had to be I did a golf shot
really close. It wasn't the closest to the pin or
something close to the whole something like that. As a
contest was it beat beat the pro, beat the pro.
So Dick would come out. Dick was one of the guys.
He was good. I mean, you know, I don't even

(47:42):
know if the coaches nowadays would do this, but we
convinced him to come out, and he basically had to
take a shot at a par three and get it close.
We would measure that and we'd say, okay, Dick Tomy
got it within six feet eight inches. We put that
up and then everybody who played that hole on the
next Saturday, anybody who came and played that hole could
try to beat him, and if they did, they would

(48:02):
win a prize. And so he was one of our,
you know, fifteen people around town who did it. He
was such a good sport about it. Of course, he
probably took like twenty shots and we got one close.
I think we were at Star Pass if I remember. Yeah,
I remember that. It was pretty good. It was fun
and we got some pretty good people to take part.
Kenny Lofton did it, yeah, but yeah, it was great.
He was He was a good sport.

Speaker 2 (48:23):
He was my When I first got here in eighty seven,
I didn't cover the first year, but I covered three
years after the fact, and it was very nice to
cover him. And he got on me a couple of times.
He was with a couple of things that I wrote
that he didn't like. But he was fair and he
was good. And then you cover him, right for three
four years? I did for three and they said you're
going to cover Loot. Now, I don't know. I don't

(48:43):
want to go. I don't want to do that because
you knew how good you had it, right, Yeah, because
he was that good. You know, he would get on
you and you used to do with me. It got
on me a few times, but I said, no, I
don't want to go with a guy who has a reputation.

Speaker 3 (48:54):
They're not liking the media, right, I mean, I think,
did you go to camp coachies?

Speaker 2 (49:00):
Yes, the flies? How did you forgetting the flies were.

Speaker 3 (49:02):
Bad and all that stuff and the humidity. But he
would he would hold court in the which I don't
know if any coaches do that nowadays, but I mean
he would just like, you know, we'd all be sitting
around the media guys, you know, doing our whatever, snickering
and looking at the players, and he just come over
and sit down with us, and he would just kind
of go off right and talk.

Speaker 2 (49:21):
It was funny I did that, I think in eighty
I did that for three years, but in eighty eight.
I remember this very well. Probably my first year there,
and you know, we had the little trays at cafeteria trees, right,
we sat down blah blah blah, and he'd bring his
wisdom and we sit down and talk. And then it
was probably my first day there. I got up and
was going back to the place where we're staying, like
the motel stakes of your brother. Yes, and he said, Steve,

(49:44):
is your mom here? And I said, no, coach, what's up?
You put your tray away. She ain't doing this for
you as an Oak sorry, coach. Yeah, that's the way
he was.

Speaker 3 (49:54):
He It was great because even if you watch video
nowadays of a football practic, you don't get to see much.
They show us stretching maybe and maybe a couple we sho.

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (50:05):
He used to let us shoot everything. He would come
over to us when they were going to start doing
something kind of tricky. He'd say, listen, guys, you know
I really appreciate it if you just turn your cameras
off now for five minutes and I'll come back and
tell you when you can turn him back on, which nowadays.

Speaker 2 (50:18):
Well, and there were times when we'd go, right, we'd
all go. Jay was covering and I always used to compete
against Jay back in the late eighties, and there were
times we just went because we wanted to see if
anybody got hurt. And you know, kind of like the
day to day stuff. They could be doing trick plays.
What the hell would we know?

Speaker 3 (50:32):
Right exactly?

Speaker 2 (50:33):
Well, you remember the David Eldridge situation rights the UCLA.
They were doing the eyebone, blah blah blah. We might
as well not know what the hell was going on.
And then Saturday they ran over the hell over the
Bruins and he says, how did that happen?

Speaker 3 (50:46):
Well, they were just practice, you know. Yeah, we didn't know.
We didn't know what we were shooting. We were out
there with the cameras and I'd say, hey, we want
to do a story on you know, Ortiz Jenkins, and
we would just be shooting him by himself. And I
could have run five trick plays and we wouldn't either
known it. And he was he was. I mean, all
the coaches are paranoid about who's you see there?

Speaker 2 (51:08):
Well, if you remember after him Stoops came in or not,
you know, not if it came in, but Stoops came in,
and you were you around for student. So so we
the practice field right there in the corner and right
corner of sixth and Campbell. I remember Stoops making sure
that across the way where Chubbah or Chuba whatever that
damn restaurant was. It says, make sure there's nobody there

(51:29):
filming us, because they could be, you know, taking shots
of us. Don't think I even went to a press conference,
even though I didn't cover the team that I was
doing basketball. I said, you guys are really concerned. Says yeah,
because they could be filming in some spy And I'm thinking, well,
what happened to the times when Dave, if you brought
your team to me or I brought your team to you,
it was the better, better team wins. I don't care

(51:50):
if I knew what you were running right. Those days
were long gone, long time.

Speaker 3 (51:53):
Apparently there's some story I might have been a Dick
Tony story where somebody was seen, you know, before the
Rose or something, you know, in the stadium, you know,
taking pictures. And since then, you know, we don't want
anybody you know, in our practices. So there was there
was always something. It was weird, weird paranoia.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
Yeah, no, it exists. Now we'll look at the Patriots whatever,
not the flaategate, but it was the the yeah, with
the filming of practices somewhere else, you know, and then
the pre scouting whatever. It was the Michigan Yeah, they
bring yourself against me. Let's see what you got, baby.
I don't care how good you think you are. It's

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like with basketball too.

Speaker 3 (52:33):
I mean, they play each other so many times, they know,
they know every play. It's not like some surprise is
gonna shure. The only thing that would that Coach Olson
was talking about it is if somebody got injured and
if that news got out, how that could affect the
spread and things like that.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Yeah, that's another excuse. We gotta go already. Talk to
you guys on the other side.