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May 16, 2023 53 mins
Tuesday pod, Hour 2: BREAKING NEWS−Arizona Basketball Coach Tommy Lloyd lands a big-time recruit for the 2023-2024 season; Jordan Geist is having a historic career with Arizona Track & Field; Conference expansion talk is heating up again while the Pac-12 works on its TV deal.
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Streaming live on the iHeart Radio Whip. This is I on the Ball with
Steve Rivera and Jay Gonzalez, FoxSports fourteen fift day. Hey, welcome
back to Ay the Ball here onplock Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera.
He's Jakens Austin. Now we haveJay with breaking news. Oh, this
is I on the Ball, breakingnews on Fox Sports fourteen fifteen. All

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right, so let's you know,let's get started with the with the in
your face portion of of breaking newswith Arizona with Tommy Lloyd getting one of
the top international players around, aseven foot two two, seven foot two,
two undred sixty five pound kid outof Lithuania. Right, I'm shocked.

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I'm shocked, and you went toEurope. I'm not even gonna I'm
not even gonna try and pronounce hisname. It starts with an M,
ends with the nast last name,crevous, crevious, all the all those
names start with the king. Yeahthey do. But um interesting thing and
of course you have you have thehaters out there right. Well, now
he's got four tall guys. Heneeds some twos and some threes, or

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he needs some he needs some youknow, other guys. He's gotten now
three seven footers and Umar Balow so, um, you know, how is
he gonna Why did he have somany big guys? No? One never
was happy. They got pretty goodguards. Yeah, and you know what,
you can't teach how right right?And if they don't all play,
guess what they'll red shirt right,they'll or you know, they'll fit in
right. Man. People complain justto complain. But I was watching something

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on Facebook because I do for philosophyreasons. Uh, it's easy to complain,
right, very hard to praise.And that's what they do. Good,
that's what they do, that's whatthey do. So um, but
he's uh, you know he's comingin. I think he's for this year,
so he'll be here in the fall. Ye um uh so you know,

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go ahead and go ahead and okay, so that's the news. That's
great news. And he looks likeI've seen some clips that he can play.
I think VSA is gonna be muchbetter. And I think I've told
you that Philippe, it's gonna befantastic. Yeah, Pillip Burrow you yeah,
yeah, guy guy. I thinkhe's gonna be very percentile. And
then Pella Larson announced He's coming back, which I think we all knew he

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was going to. But he's donedabbling with the A with the NBA.
Found out barent find out what hewanted to find out, right, And
I'm you know, we said allalong, not that we know Pella or
have any inside knowledge, but itwas kind of like, go find out
the process. But now he knowsthe process, he knows what he needs
to do. It's probably been toldsome things that he's got to work on.

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Sure, look baskets, Yeah,like make some baskets and and uh
and uh that kind of stuff.Don't be missing key for he throws it
key times when you're when you're likea ninety percent shooter. That episode.
So Pelle Larson is coming back.Um, the San Diego State transfer Keyshaw
Johnson is supposed to announce his decisionon Saturday. Um, he's the guy
who was key to San Diego State'srun to the championship game. He's got

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Kentucky, Arizona, Texas, Tech, USC and Oklahoma as his as his
five choices. He was he was, you know, very complimentary of Kentucky,
which is his most recent visit.And I don't know a lot of
times the last visit is the onethat gets you. But you never know.
He's um, but he is,UH gonna supposedly decide this weekend if
he's coming to Arizona. So we'llsee if he decides to stay, you

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know, stay close to home.Um. There's some things going on at
USC with Bronnie James and now UHRodman's kid. You know, they got
they got one of the top recruitsin the country coming in there, and
he goes to USC, USC mightbecome a problem for for all the Pac
twelve, not just Arizona. Soanyways, UM. On the other side
of that, Uh, Sam Thomashas been cut from the Phoenix rectord Um.

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She was not on the on theroster UH as of today. Uh,
they're down. They got to getdown to the twelve player by Friday,
where the season starts on Friday,and she apparently has been uh has
been off. It was a longshot to make she did last year,
but she was also you know,on the All Rookie team. That plus
you know, I can't I don'twe've had her on the show. What

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a delightful woman. I don't feelsorry for her. You know why.
She's very good at what she does. She's a people person. People love
her. She was all low inher communications or whatever she did two years
ago. So I think she's gonnabe fine. It's gonna be a success
the rest, after life stuff,after basketball stuff, she'll be fine.
Good for a she got you know, if you got a cup of coffee
in there. Yeah, w NBAgood? Yeah, you know, I

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mean you can't, you can't,you can't knock that. I mean good,
you know, good on her.Um, Okay, let's see where
do I want to go next.Um, we're trying to get um John
Wilmer on the show in the nextcouple of days. She's kind of give
us an update of all the expansionstuff, TV deals and stuff like that.
But there was a big meeting ofthe ACCU the powers. Yeah,

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the a SEC held a meeting.A couple of things that come out of
that because there was a lot ofdiscussion over the last few days that there
were seven schools in the a SECwho said, we got to fix the
revenue sharing thing. We need moremoney or we're gonna lead, and you
got people denying that they were goingto lead, YadA, YadA, YadA.
But in the end they come outof these meetings and the Florida State.

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Uh, I don't know if he'sa d or The president said he's
confident the ACC is going to goto a revenue model that they're going to
be happy with. Um, hesaid, we're thrilled to be in this
league and we want to stay here. There's a lot of people saying you're
a big fat liar, but um, you know that they still might want
to stay, but it looks likethere's gonna they're they're altering the revenue playing
because you know, Clemson and FloridaState and Miami think they should be getting

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more money than you know, uh, you know some of the bottom feeders
in the league because they're the onesbringing in all the money. So and
then what's good with that lose thosebottom feeders will stay bottom feeders. And
these guys, but what they're tryingto do is they're in this horrible TV
deal that's got another like twelve yearsto go and they're falling behind. There's
nothing they can do about it becauseof the contract they signed. So interesting

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stuff going on over in the ACC. There was also a Pack twelve meeting
today in Seattle. I haven't heardanything coming out of that, John Kenzown,
I'll put a road a column behindhis paywall that I haven't been able
to get in there and look at. But interesting to see what's you know,
what's come out of that. We'regonna have Dave Hickey on on Thursday
to talk about his father to theaward, but we're also gonna a pepper

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him with a few things to seewhat he can tell us about what's going
on and all that. And it'smentioned we're trying to get John Wilner in
here. He's a busy guy tryingto stay on top of all of this,
and we're just trying to suck thatinformation out of him as fast as
we can. Um okay, Arizonahas won the Territorial Cup for the fourth
time in the last six years.I want to ask the key about that

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because it's bits. It's a bigdeal to fans. I guess is it
a big deal? I think it'sa big deal to the athlete. I
mean there's a big deal to me. Nice. Nice. It was like,
you know, way back when Arizonawas in the you know gate in
the Director's Cup to the Series Cupand all that stuff, you know,
and that was a big deal.And people say, well, we're doing
good in the Serius Cup, andI said, but we haven't been to

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a damn Rose Bowl. All right, come on, I'll give up.
I'll give up all the series Cupsfor damn Rose Bowl. I don't care
for good in in you know,in all the sports until we get to
the damn Rose Bowl. Hey,eighty four years, you know, step,
we're never going to get to one. You know how things have to

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line up, not because the roseBall is going to be a quarterfinal,
uh ter final playoff game at worstevery year. Can you open the door
for me. I'm really upset bythis now. Not only did they have
to get into the playoff, they'vegot to get to the quarterfinals, and
they got to line up to beable to play that. Were just depressing
yourself by talking, You're just depressingyourself. Anyways. It was kind of

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funny though, the graphic, um, the graphic that they put that you
have a put out about the TerritorialCup, you know as Jay Leville who
play the ASU, instead of sayingKate Reese who sort of was the face
of the team, right, oreven SHANEA. Pellington and of all the
people they put on they put onJay Leville, so they're kind of poke

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them about helping him win the TerritorialCup. I thought that's kind of funny.
All right, Um, you byour draft lotteries tonight. So everybody's
after this web Bon Yama kid.You know, I don't see it.
Of course you don't because you didn'tsee the other guy who got hurt.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.The kid, you know, a kid
from Gonzaga. I mean the minutethe man he had to start playing hard,

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his body blew up. And thiskid looks the same to me as
far as that. Whoa, thisis another one of those life and what
it was? It was you Rowskior somebody's said that he could be the
best prospect for any sport ever.Did he not have show? Hey?

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Somebody said, uh, Lebron showright, you know, but the best
prospect you know, coming out oflike high school or whatever, of any
sport ever. And I'm like,what do you think, NJ? Come
on? Yeah, you know,and and and hung that thing on him,
and I'm like okay, but anyways, um, his body will have

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to change obviously. Yeah. Sothere's there's fourteen teams in the in the
lottery. Um, who is itthat has the best shot at Houston and
Detroit? I think, Uh,Houston, I think fourteen percent chance.
Uh yeah, you try, No, you try the Rockets and the spur
Spurs are in there too. Okay, so so let's see who gets who

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gets that guy? All right,little controversy going on where they're in judge.
He was peeking into the he waspeeking to the side. Did they
hit this monster home? Did theysay? Because there's another theory. I
saw something in the he said.He said he was looking into the dugout
because these guys were chirping, andhe was like, I wanted them to
shut the hell out. So that'swhat he said. Okay, so what

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do you think? What do youthink Batters don't generally take their eye off
the picture generally, no, right, But people are saying he was looking
at a coach who they think mighthave been giving him a signal because the
coach was standing in a weird spot. But that's what coaches do, right.
Coaches try to steal signals just likeguys on base right. Sure,

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and if they can, if theycan transmit that to there's nothing wrong.
That's part of the game. Youcan't be hitting garbage cans. You can't
be having There was a there wasa junior. They got caught. They
had some sort of a speaker intheir helmets. You know that they're feeding
pitchers for these guys. If he'slooking at a coach who might have the

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signal, then there's nothing wrong withthat. Yeah, and that's not cheating.
It would be cheating if there's somebodyin the dugout, you know,
like you said, you know,tipping them off because they've got a camera,
then the outfitters, I'm like it. But if a coach can see
the catcher giving a signal, there'snothing that's part of the game that means
they didn't hide. This the catcher'sfault, right, not hiding. We

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could pick those off easy. Whenwe played Babe Ruth and it's a massive
home run, Sure, that's justrepetition. Yeah, I know I saw
that. It was kind of weird, but he still had to hit the
home run. Still, you know, still his ability sets to come through.
No, no, no, didyou also have the seventy six ers
stuff with? Oh that's right,Doc Rivers fired. Now four coaches whose

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team's got the Court of finals inthe playoffs. Success all been fired success
you know the Sons. No,well the Bucks didn't get but the Bucks
were the number one seed, theSuns, the Bucks, the the seventy
six and and and in Toronto.They're all gonna find jobs. It's all
incest to us, you know that. Yeah, it's still gonna find you
know, Monty, you'll be acoach of Milwaukee or whatever. And it's

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all gonna be a Merritica around.Yeah, because because they all spend the
same time doing something somewhere else,they're just gonna move the pieces over you
know. You know ty lew Assomebody who's you know over at the Clippers
mentioned about coming there, coming tothe Suns. And he's over there,
he's got you know, he's gota couple of good players over there.
Why why would he give that up? Plus he's you know, I don't

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know. Again, it's weird.It's it's, as you said, very
incestuous. These guys are just youknow, moving the pieces around all over
the place. Um uh, justan interesting piece of transfer portal news.
Uh Nordre Dame running back logan digs. When the Jazz reportal was there was
Notre Dame's leading Russia hundred and sixtyfive carries last year going to LSU.

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It's like he was starting, hewas playing, he was getting the ball
at Notre Dame. Not good enough. I'm going. I believe even the
best go somewhere else. Yes,it's just you know, I don't like
it, Steve No So Sean talkedabout that on that Zoom call. He

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was, he was, I don'twant to feel like a curmudgeon, but
I'm I am one and this ishorrible. There's no loyalty, like to
go to my point of being afan. Um, it's hard to like
somebody when I love you, Ilove you. Oh well, I don't
love you anymore, but I onlylove you until the paycheck got up to
here, right? Absolutely? Soall right man, you got the Nuggets,

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get giving six and a half tothe Lakers tonight, not touching the
points, touching money line one anduh and Denver winning it at all,
winning this series and the next.Don't touch it. So you go with
the points. I don't only careabout the points, but if I take

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but what if I take them?Oh I hate you then more? What
I'll be all right? We gotit? Well, I think we had
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iHeart Radio Appy. I'm the Ball. Hey, welcome back to you on
the Ball here Fox Sports fourteen fifty. I'm Steve Ribera. He's jakensos now
on the phone, and we haveJordan Geis on an NCUBA title holder with
the check put. How many timeshave you won that thing? Jordan?
One shot? But at Nationals justthe once. But I just won my

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fourth Pack twelve title this past weekendof one, okay, and probably another
one. We've had you on theshow before, Pittsburgh kids, who's done
very well in the desert. What'sgoing on with you? Not much?
Just finished up my academic career outhere, just to have my last final
last weekend, so um, thankfullyjust being able to work on my training

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now to get through the rest ofthe season. So so it's been a
long run here at Arizona. Alot of a lot of championships, a
lot of titles, a lot ofgreat stuff, a lot of records.
Um, you know, Jordan,when you when I see somebody like you,
I go like, what drive them? Right? At some point in
you're I don't know when, inhigh school, before that, at very

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or whatever, something has been drivingyou to do what you're doing. And
for doing this for so long,is there any way to pinpoint what that
has been or what that is foryou? I mean, it just kind
of started off just trying to throwit as far as I could, and
then eventually you learn about national championships, then the goals to try to win

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those. Then you learn about USAteams and you're trying to make those.
Now at college, I finally wonmy first national championships. Now there's professional
level USA teams to try to make, so that's the next goal, and
then Olympics after that, and everythingjust kind of piles on and it's always
there's always something to be motivated aboutthis sport. So you must love to

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compete, just compete and not loseexactly. Yeah, That's that's another good
thing about track and field is everythingthat you put into it, you're going
to get back out of it.So the harder you work on the front
end, the more results are youto get on the back end. Why
track, Why you're thinking back tobecause you're obviously a great athlete. How

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did track become the thing for you? I mean I played football up until
my sophomore year high school. Iwas a pretty good linebacker, got recruited
by a couple of U D oneschool says the sophomore in high school,
but ultimately I just didn't love itanymore. Track and fields kind of the
sport that I was more drawn to, and I was getting a little bit
better at it a little bit faster. So I ended up quitting football after

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my sophomore year and haven't looked backsince. Did you get better through technique
or strength or both? I mean, as of recent it's definitely been more
technical. I've always been a prettystrong kid ever since high school, so
the strength levels have kind of alwaysbeen there, So technique over the past

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the year or two have definitely beenthe next steps and will continue to be
the next steps for me. Movingforward? How has that evolved? When
you talk about technique, it iswhat you do now, excuse me,
what you do now and the wayyou throw a lot different from when you
started. You know, if peopleathletes learned how to do things a different

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way, okay, guess a betterway, how has that evolved over time
for you? I mean, sothere's a couple of different techniques that you're
able to do. So the oneI do now is called the spin.
I've been doing that since eighth grade, and I've just been kind of building
on a solid foundation since then towhere I'm at now. So someone if
you just pulled them off the streetand showed them a video of me now

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compared to five years ago, theyprobably wouldn't notice a lot of the differences.
But someone who kind of has theeye for it notices the changes that
we've made over the past few years. So, when you're talking about getting
to the level that you're at,I mean little, I mean tiny adjustments
have to make a difference, right, because all you're you're really just trying

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to get you know, inches orcentimeters or whatever you know, to add
to to how you throw it.So are there a little baby adjustments that
you make to get you things likethat. I'm just talking. I'm talking
from somebody who has no knowledge ofwhat it takes to be a good shot
putterer or a hammer thrower or whatever. Yeah, exactly. I mean every
sport you hear about that one percent. And that can come from any variety

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of things. That could come fromnutrition, that could come from sleep,
that can come from lifting, thatcould come from technique. Any little thing
on any given day could mean thedifference between throwing just below what the Olympic
standard is or making that Olympic teamany given day. So I guess,
as this eight year old or ayoung kid that you're talking about Olympic hopeful,

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were you always thinking about that atsome point or not even not even
your mind. I mean, itwas just kind of not really in my
mind until I started getting towards likemy junior senior year high school, whenever
I realized, hey, I'm toptwo three in the country at my age
level. And then just this previousindoor season at the Indoor USA Championships,

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I finished second, and that's kindof whenever the realism kind of really hit.
And so I mean, just tryingto carry that into outdoors this season
into next year and just keep tryingto improve on what I can control and
if that's good enough on the daysand so be it. I'm trying to
recall your story from from our previousconversations. Isn't your mom a coach or
your dad's a coach and he tokind of coach you early? Yeah,

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So when I was a really youngkid, my dad coached me. They
both were d two All Americans atSlipper Rock University back in Pennsylvania. So
my dad kind of coached me untilI got to high school. When I
was in high school, my momwas my school coach and then also kind
of had a club coach that Iwas working with at the time, and
they both now are volunteer assistant coachesat Slipper Rock University at the college level.

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Again, all right, so howdo you end up from out there
to Tucson, Arizona. I mean, it was just all part of the
recruiting processes. I took five visits, and this is the school that I
felt like I lined most with kindof the image that they were going for.
I mean, I liked the team, I liked the culture. Being

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in business school, they have agreat business school out here in Tucsons,
So just kind of the best fitfor me overall is why I ended up
coming out to two phones. Soonce you put the shot put away and
your your career as a track guyis over, well, what are you
hoping to do in the real world? I mean, the goal is to
give back to the sport as muchas I can, whether that be through

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coaching or I'm also actually a certifiedstrength coach, so that's another avenue that
I could possibly get into. Butjust loving the sport and wanting to kind
of be around that as long asI can, kind of either being a
coach or strength coach or whatever thatmight end up being. So, hey,
Jed, Hey, Jed, Igot another year of eligibility put me

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in. I'm okay, thanks.Well, nobody hits you in the shot
fun, right, you know you'renot getting pounded. So so what's walk
us through kind of your your mapgoing forward from where you are today?
You know nationals are coming up,you know, Olympics, all those kinds

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of things. What's you know,what does your plan look like going forward?
For however many years you think you'llbe doing this? I mean,
so the roadmap now is I meanget through the college season, which will
be NCAA Championships in the second weekof June or whatever that is, and
then from there part of a professionallevel that's going to be talking to agents,

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trying to find sponsors um. Fortrack and field, especially in the
throwing, there's not a lot ofmoney to be had from sponsorships UM,
So a lot of that's going tokind of depend on my agent, what
they're able to work with and ifI have any people that are going to
back me financially to try to getto the level I'm trying to and then

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just trying to win money at meetsUSA Championships, going over to Europe competing
there, and then basically just doingthat all the way until we get to
the Olympic Trials next year. Thisis probably a question you may not want
to answer. How's the NL helpedyou out? Because you come on,
you're one of the more decorated trackguys there at UA, and one are

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the better athletes too. I meanthat rules pretty much entirely for basketball football
players. Track and fields not avery attractive sport for sponsors that might be
trying to look for athletes I didhave one which was a strength company up
in Portland, Kabuki Strength. Iwas working with them. I had a

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year long contract and they gave mesome equipment that really helped me advance my
performance forwards. So that's definitely arelationship that I want to try to keep
after graduation and then try to keepbuilding those types of relationships. See that's
another thing, Like he says,it's not a sport like basketball, football.
I don't the inequity sounds weird tohow's it going to work? So

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so Jordan so does Olympics kind ofwrap things up for you and we're not
trying to end your career here oranything like that, but just kind of
asking how long do you think youcan do this and you know, maybe
make a living at it. Whatsthis is what you're doing. So this
is a sport. It's pretty interesting. It's different from football maybe outside of
kickers and quarterbacks, where you coulddo this into your thirties. A lot

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of it's very technical, which you'reable to maintain over time, and then
strength based again you're able to maintainstrength levels over time. So it's a
sport that I'm able to do intomy thirties, But ultimately it's going to
be as long as I'm having funwith it, as long as them staying
competitive with it. Hopefully trying tomake the twenty twenty eight Olympics would be
the dream, just because those they'reback in the US, So try to

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work through that Olympics cycle at leastand then just kind of take it from
there. Yeah, and to stayin the area or the West Coast rather
than going back east. That's goingto depend on a couple of things.
I'm going to stay out in Arizonathis next year, and then my fiance
is applying for PA school, soshe's going to be a position to assistant

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and that's kind of going to dictatewhere we end up going after that.
That's going to be either Arizona,Pennsylvania, or Wisconsin where she's from.
And we kind of have a roughplan for any one of those places,
kind of for me to train andtry to get a job maybe in a
strength role somewhere, but it's justgoing to kind of depend on where the
chips lie after a PA school forher. So it's an individual sport,

(28:41):
but you know you're on a team. So tell us a little bit about
you know how you think Arizona canwill fare you're coming up in the Outdoor
Outdoor Championships. I mean, doyou guys, what do you hope for?
What do you think is like maybea top mark for you guys coming
up? I mean the hope forus, it's all about numbers. So

(29:02):
there's no reason we can't be atop ten team in the nation at nationals.
Um The biggest one of the biggerpride points that I take from this
past pack twelve championships that we justhad is the biggest track team in the
country's Oregon, and they're the mostnotorious and the most historic, and we
just beat them at the Pactful Championships. We ended up finishing fifth, but

(29:23):
being able to beat such a historicteam like that, for at least the
men's side, was pretty cool.So just being able to try to carry
that momentum, get as many peoplequalified for Nationals as we can next week
at the regional qualifiers, and thenjust score as many points as we can
in Austin, Texas for the NTAFinals. What are what are your rivalries

(29:44):
or what are the rivalries in track? You know? What you know?
Are they individual unit? You seesomebody you know on another team and you
want to beat that guy, oryou know, are there team things like
that? You know, we werejust talking about the Territorial Cup. You
know how m does that matter toyou guys? But where are the rivalries
in the sport? It kind of, I guess depends that the meat you're

(30:07):
at. So for me, therest of the season, it's me against
every other shot putter and NA,every other hammer thrower and NTA. That's
kind of how hans stacking myself upagainst all these other people. But it's
the Pack twelve championships. Whenever TerritorialCup points online, it came down to
track and field random women both hadto beat AFU to win it, and
we did it. So that's kindof another thing. If we if we

(30:30):
weren't winning, at least beat thesun Devils. That's kind of the real
goal there. But outside of that, we are actually a lot of people
from Tucson, a lot of peoplefrom AFU. We are pretty pretty friendly
and we support each other and someof these bigger meats, so just kind
of having that support going into NCAtwo is pretty helpful. So when you're

(30:52):
sitting back in your lazy boy andyou have your grandson with you in your
lap and you're telling them, youknow, all back in the day I
had this, guig, how willyou assessed your career here? That's a
good question. I mean, it'ssuch a historic program, especially Throws program,
going back to Meg Ritchie in theeighties winning all these national championships.

(31:18):
Just kind of being a part ofsuch an historic THROS program and kind of
being able to contribute my piece witheight All Americans six pack twelve titles national
championship and hopefully whatever lies ahead atthis upcoming national championship as well, just
being able to contribute to that historyis pretty special. What advice would you
give to a kid who's maybe inhigh school right now and you know,

(31:42):
looking to do what you've been doing, But what's the first thing you would
tell them about how they approached this? I mean, I think the biggest
thing that's helped me is just understandingwhat you're doing. It's easy to be
sitting here in your coach being inyour ear telling you what to do and
then saying, yes, they're justbeing a robot and going out and trying

(32:04):
to do it. But unless youunderstand the why behind it, it's going
to be pretty difficult to be ableto continue to build on that, especially
if you end up leaving that coachand your if you have another coach come
in. It's it's just been sucha benefit to me just to be able
to truly understand what I'm doing andwhy I'm doing it. Well, mister

(32:27):
Geist, thank you for joining us. Good luck the rest of the way.
Thank you very much, Thank youfor having me, Thanks for joining
us. The luck, good stuff. One of the all time greats man.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, that'swhy the nil is kind of not
fair. Yeah right, I meanhe's one of the all type greats,
right, name of football players whohas done as much for exactly the image

(32:49):
of Airs on athletics is Jordan's exactly. I don't know, n I l
is nil And more power to youif you get money. But it's still
kind of weird to me. Here'sthis dude. That's the dude, right,
look at Sam Thomas. Yeah right, I mean, who's who's been
a face right, you know atArizona. Even after she's left, right,
but you know she's still a faceat Arizona. People still recognize that.

(33:14):
Interesting stuff, man, very okay, stuff all right, let's get
some calls about the fandom. Thefandom. What are you a fan of?
Are you still a fan even thoughyou're old or young or whatever.
Are you a fan? Nope?Yes you are? Nope, I know
you don't I know you're label.All right, we'll be right back.
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fifty. I'm Steve Robro, He'sJacobs us. We have a call,
Jake, Well wait a minute,I got it it's MULTII youth, multi
use, multi use MULTII youth crievasOkay, seven foot seven foot two with
a seven foot five wingspan. Uh, he's a big kid. Look on

(37:53):
the video looks very very good.Yeah, agile and stuff. So all
right, we do have a caller, so let's uh, let's take this.
Hi, Gabriel, you're on thereand I in the ball. How
are you guys? We're good.Um, how are you guys doing?
We're good. We're ready for yourgreat reactions to what's going on. I

(38:15):
got it. Um. So I'mvery so two things. I'm very happy
that heel Larson and um and umMan from Europe committing to the Arizona Wildcast.
So I'm happy with that. Soin regards to Polish football realignment for

(38:37):
the past twelve so I kind ofwant to make a perdition in the next
three months, I think Arizona andColorado would be in the big Folve.
Wow, okay, three months,So that's gonna get us to August.
Yes, Okay, we're gonna rememberthat. We're gonna remember that. Yeah,

(39:04):
all right, what gives you thatidea? So? So I listened.
So John, Chris Islet and hecovers um the Big Twelve and uh,
and so he did a story abouthow the Big Ten vetted and clear

(39:24):
it um organ in Washington. Sowhenever when whenever Oregon in Washington, or
whenever Big ten finally makes their decisionto grab Ork in Washington, that's that's
one of the factors. I stillthink as time goes by, tools I'm

(39:50):
not gonna trust um grs criminal coughsand just will decide to jump to shock
and Arizona in Colorado would go tothe Big Twelve in about three months if
not seen happens. But let mejust say this, I don't know if
that's going to be for certain,But like I said to you guys,

(40:12):
a lot of as as as longas this go keeps going on, THO
is all gonna be rest restless andMike decide to to go to better,
better positions. All right, Gabriel, Well, you know, rings to
be seen. We'll see what happens. I you know, it's so up

(40:32):
in the air. There's the Imean, we can guess all we want,
but we're not going to know anythingfor ah a little while. Still,
so all right, Gabriel, Well, thank you for your opinion.
Appreciate it. Thank you guys,you rock. Thank you Will Gabriel,
you better not to going faithful tous the other programs at the same time,
I'm gonna hold you to us.I don't know, Steve, you

(40:54):
know, um the silences is it'sand it's been forever. I mean,
come on, Jay, we hada bad last year about something I can
remember, and then August for augustsright, you said, well, then
that came and then there was anotherdeadline and that came coming up on another
August. Ben See, it's youcan't rush this. Well you had you

(41:15):
really had no idea how this isgoing to develop. The way has developed
is that you know, everybody wentout and did their deal and the paco
let me ask you, and maybewe asked to, said Dave, And
I know he won't asker. Butbut if now you're in the room,
right, you're here and listen tothese gibberish pretty much, probably how frustrated
are you because no one's agreeing orno one says this, and there's denials

(41:37):
and all this. You say,come on, guys, it's like politics.
Come on, guys, well theyget this going. Well, I
sort of understand why we don't knowmore. That's because it's such a totally
right, totally why we don't butcertain, but why is it taking so
damn long? So the thing thatlong and suring things leak, but you

(41:59):
don't know if they're true right right? And you know, I was again
listening the guys that seemed to bethat I that I listened to, and
it seemed to know a lot.Ross Dellinger Um for Sports Illustrated, Pat
forty also Sports Illustrated. Those twoguys and Ross more than more than more
than forty. And Pat's been onour show there. I mean, he

(42:20):
goes to these meetings. He waswhere the ACC was meeting. He was
in Phoenix last week where both theBig twelve and the PAC twelve for meeting.
He goes. So he's there andhe's seen and he's talking to people
and even he says, we don'tknow, and that's it, and that's
a frustrating part. We we wehear things, but all the different things

(42:40):
that we hear, we really don'tknow what's going on and what the hold
up is for the PAC twelve,what the Big twelve is doing. You
know, you get you get Bretyour mark at at Big twelve was lobbying
grenades about saying what we want SanDiego stay, we want Colorado, we
want Arizona. You know, hesaid, in the end, nobody really

(43:01):
knows. Don't you think whatever theend is, because end could be tomorrow
and then two weeks it all changes. But don't you think in the end,
in my end, and it's gonnabe four super conferences in d down
the road. In the end,right, it will be twenty major whatever
you call them. Yes, right, it'll be Major East West cut whatever

(43:21):
it was, and it'll be afree for all, right, four big,
big deals. The one thing thatthat I don't know if it was
Ross Dallinger he said this, andyou know in one of his stories,
or I think it was he heyou know, there was a somebody from
the Big ten, I think,and an ad or a president from the
Big ten that said, they don'tyou know, one of the reasons they're

(43:44):
not going after Oregon in Washington.One is the money, right said they
would need a two hundred million,two hundred million more dollars in TV money
for those two programs to be ableto go there. It's not there.
But the second thing he said,we don't want to be seen as the
ones that blow up the PAC twelve, that you that down the road.
Historically, if the PAC twelve implodesor blows up, that let it be

(44:06):
on the PAC twelve or not onus. Right, are going and taking
order because they know if they takeOregon and Washington, that's it for the
past. Yeah, we don't wantto be the ones to get blamed for
that. And I thought that wasan interesting point of view. But again,
more than anything, as always,it's all about the money. Sure,
everything we talked about is about themoney. It's kind of crazy.

(44:27):
And and the PAC twelve, abig twelve commissioner can say all he wants,
but whether or not they want Coloradoand Arizona and San Diego State,
there doesn't seem to be a lotof money to go around. ESPN is
lame employees off. There's not money, you know, getting thrown around.
There's all these other contracts that ESPNfor instance, is going after with with
you know, the the uh UFCand all that kind of stuff. There's

(44:52):
a whole bunch and there's not moneybeing thrown around anymore. There's not a
lot of money left to go around, So you know, for people afraid
that Oregon and Washington are going worse. Where is the big where's two hundred
million dollars going to come from toput those guys into the Big the Big
Ten? And then the other issueis, you know, these guys were

(45:13):
going through a college football schedule.He said, there's only so many slots,
right, There's only so many gamesin your conference week to week,
there are great games, said,so the Big Ten has three prime TV
slots, right, the noon slot, the one thirty slot, and then
primetime slot slot. And they saidthere are some weeks where there aren't three

(45:36):
games worthy of all those slots.Yeah, there aren't. Are you gonna
all of a sudden put Illinois Minnesota? You know, it's gonna be Ohio
State, Michigan and Penn State andwhoever they're playing. And those guys can
only play each other, so youknow so many times, So it's such
a numbers game. So I don'tknow, it's just it's crazy crazy,

(46:00):
Um okay, low breaking news here, UH if you're planning on going out
to the UH Softball Championship game hasbeen played out at UH at Hill and
Brand. It's been apparently been raininghard over there. The field is a
mess. Uh, and there's somedoubt as to whether or not the games
are gonna get played tonight. Sabinoa number one seed going after its third

(46:22):
Yeah, I don't know. Title. We've had this coach on yeah,
playing Empire, supposed to be playingEmpire at five thirty, and then at
eight it's supposed to be Sabino andnot Sabino, sal Point and um,
I have it right here, salPoint and Greenway. The one and two

(46:42):
seeds is supposed to be played ateight o'clock. Both of those games tonight.
Javier Morales, Johnny on the spotover there, has been tweeting out
that the field is pretty Muney Muddysaid, it rained pretty hard over there.
Um, don't know if they're gonnabe able to get those games in.
Okay, Yeah, that's so.And you mentioned some point they've want
a bunch of titles, especially witha new coach. They just said,

(47:04):
give the give the keys to somebodynew and she'll find a way to win
it. I've just tweeted. Uh. He was told the AA Associate Executive
Doctor Joe Paddock is on his wayto Hill and Brand to check out the
conditions of the infield, So themeeting will be held with them pirates to
being the ads. Determination will bemade. A three A and four A
championship games will be played tonight.Coaches told not to have the team's worm

(47:25):
out. So there you go.You're plan on getting out there for that
stuff. That's what's going on outthere. You know, we're sitting here
in the dark. We don't knowif it's raining. So anyways, um,
Colorado continue to get guys. Man, they got it. They gotta
they got a running back now,they gotta I think a receiver that they

(47:47):
stole from I think USC. No. I mean, do you think they're
gonna be uh we talked about this. I think the Vegas line has them
ahead of Arizona, right but barely, just like fifth or six seventies whatever
was. Do you think they're gonnahave more talent there now than Arizona?
More talent. I'm not talking aboutoverall stuff because he's he's We did out

(48:08):
obviously people and brought in some people. I don't know, you know,
I mean, how good are theseguys again? And he brought a bunch
of you know, I brought abunch of f FCS guys with him.
How good are those guys? Imean, there are a reason that they're
playing FCS at you know, anFCF school instead of a you know,
uh an FBS school. So Idon't know, Um, do they have

(48:30):
they upgraded? Certainly they have tohave, you know, they got a
bunch of top recruits, you know, but how much have they upgraded?
And how much? How how arethey gonna be able to put all those
guys together in a short period oftime to get his seasons? Yeah?
No, no, I get ourplaying well, but if better, it
is better. It's gonna kind ofbe like Jets progression. Right. You
you have what you have which wasnot in anything. Second year or third

(48:52):
year, you get better talent andyou win more games and maybe in a
kind of a weird way. Youknow, if you're an Arizona fan or
any see You fan or from whoever, you just like the fact that people
are talking about the PAC twelve becausethey're talking about Colorado one of the big
games the first weekend of the collegefootball season. It's Colorado TCU. That

(49:12):
was a nothing game you know lastyear, right going into this year when
your new Colorado TCU, we're gonnaplay first game of the Year. You
thought that's a crap game, Butall of a sudden, Colorado's got all
this, all this attention, andso people are gonna be excited to see
that game. They'll be interesting tosay. And if they get beat,
they get blasted forty one to seven, then you know, we'll see what

(49:34):
happens after that. I don't know. Yeah, we'll see. We'll see.
August comes pretty quickly here it does, and then September and then we'll
see what happens injuries and blah blahblah. Yeah, yeah, no,
I you know, but this thiskid, Alton McCaskill from Houston, is
not committed to Colorado. So wellthey'll be better Colora like Arizona was better.

(49:57):
Yeah, so we'll see. Yeah. He was the UH American Athletic
Conference Rookie of the Year last year. So you know, I have a
I have a thought that you know, Okay, so he Dion gets there,
uh gets changes with kids, youknow, fifty four whatever many left
that even the new crop that comesin, we'll see a lot leave after

(50:22):
this year. Yeah, after herfirst coaches, you know, see gets
the system down or not get itdown, and it'll be a revolving door.
It'll and it will always be likeexactly. I mean, this doesn't
happen by accident because if you,like, if you want to be coached,
and I think kids still do,you'd probably say, okay, I
can deal with it or not.Then you get there you find out maybe

(50:43):
you can't. Right. I don'tknow if I could, because it's hard.
I don't know if I could.Um, it depends on how level
I would be. Quite kind ofgood I would be. But uh,
it seems I love I love thevideos I see because they're inspirational and they're
kind of yeah, I get it, that's kind of cool. But every
day, yeah, every day it'skind Sometimes it kind of falls up.

(51:05):
It's asking you bring me flowers.I don't need flowers, kind of I'm
kind of allergic to them. Now, give me a kiss on the cheek,
right, creeck me a dinner.He sounds like a guy who's had
some trouble. I won't even say, oh my god, oh my god.

(51:27):
All right, Steve, you're feelingyou're still feeling the Nuggets to night.
I love the Nuggets. Don't doit to me, man, don't
crush my dreams. Well, whatam I supposed to do nothing? Nothing?
You sit and watch which sit thereand look pretty, sit there and
look pretty. Don't do it well? First of all, say it looking
pretty. It is a hard thingfor me to do well. No one
will be in the room to notice, will be I thought she was on

(51:47):
earth out of town. Oh,she could be in another room, or
she gonna watching watching a succession.Man, we're trying to catch up on
ted Lasso too. I've never watchedthe show of that. I had to
be talked into it. Somebody,actually, a friend, I like it.
I'm having a great time with afriend of ours actually bought us the
subscription the Apple TV Plus said we'rebuying you the subscription for a year so

(52:15):
you can watch it, and solike, so, who who is is
he jet Fish? Or is hetold me he's Jetfish? He's Jetfish.
It's good. It's been fun towatch. And he's not really Jetfish,
he's he's just kind of a goofyguy. Yeah, but I it's been
fun. Where it's the third season? Now where on the third four episodes

(52:37):
in? Oh? I thought hadmore seasons four episodes into it. Um,
I think we're a couple behind.Still but it's been fun. It's
been a fun watch. I'm nota binge watcher, I'm not a series
watcher. I'm watching this. I'mwatching The White House Plumbers. And that's
it. You know. My daughter'sbeen trying to give me the succession.
I tried to watch a couple ofothers haven't been able to stay with.

(52:59):
Yeah, I'm I'm hooked on TheWhite House Plumbers right now. But are
goofy dudes. You can see howthey bumbled and stumbled their away too.
Messes. Man, it's just scaryto know that those guys we're running the
show right, right, and howimportant, how politics hasn't really changed,
right, It's still the same.It's still the same. It's still the
same. All right. Thanks forbeing here today. We hope you had

(53:20):
a good time with Jordan Geist andJason heis. Good show tomorrow, Good
show to gad Short tomorrow and becauseit's an FC Tucson and some Phoenix Final
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