Fade This Episode 14 Conference Tournaments Part 1

Matt Jones and Drew Franklin give you their picks for 16 of the upcoming CBB conference tournaments in the most ridiculous way possible.

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Welcome everybody. It is the Fade This Podcast, our first
major college basketball postseason edition, Matt Jones and Drew Franklin.
We would like to welcome all the new listeners who
are joining us. Who heard they ran advertisements Drew for
Fade This on all the podcasts, so like Dan Patrick

(00:36):
and Club Shaysha and all of these podcasts have ads
now for us, so presumably we'll get some new listeners,
so we're going to welcome them to get ready for
March madness. Yeah, maybe you.

Speaker 2 (00:48):
Were listening to Caliperian John Wall on Points.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
That's right, it gave you over to us.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Maybe a little Kentucky doubleheader podcast you have going.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
On lumb five twenty or up in all that smoke,
like all of those, I think they're running these ads
on so you know, I'm excited to have all those people.
And you're probably going, well, what do they do on
Fade This. Well, here's what we do. We make predictions
about games, and we're pretty good at it. I know

(01:17):
we won't sound like it, but we had a big
year in football, did really well in the NFL, you know,
fifty to fifty or so on college, but really well
in the NFL and college basketball. That's our zone. You know,
we are Kentucky fans. We follow college basketball probably more
than other people should. I actually did an interview today

(01:38):
with the Wall Street Journal about my college basketball knowledge.
They said, we would like to talk to you about
something about college basketball. Would you like to know what
it was? And what was it? What made you send
the tweet Cream abdul Jabbar about Robbie of Ila's going crazy.

(02:00):
Wall Street Journal is doing a profile of him and
they are sort of saying they he was like, did
you come up with the name Cream abdul Jabar? And
if you haven't seen the kid, you need to see him.
There's a there's a white dude that plays for Indiana
State that looks like me when I was in high school.
Just I was maybe dork here, maybe he was dork here.

(02:20):
I don't know. And I said, well, I didn't come
up with it, But like somebody on my show did
a listener, and so I got to hear all of
his nicknames. We knew Larry Nerd, that one's my favorite.
We knew uh dork Novitzky another good one. I also like,

(02:40):
he says the one he likes the most Robbie Avila
is Steph Blurry, but a lot with the blur go
with the goggles there.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
I'm just partial to the play up with the nerd
with the Indiana State Connection tess.

Speaker 1 (02:53):
So he said. The reporter for the Wall Street Journal
said he loves it and that he thinks people like
him because they can relate to him, which I think
is probably correct.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Yeah, because you can go to your local gym and
there's a Robbie there. That's why it's so weird to
see that guy your local gym on TV when you're
watching them play, and hopefully they go far into March
so that he can become the national sensation.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
You know, we're gonna, We're gonna. So here's what we're
gonna do today. There are thirty two conference tournaments. Did
you know there were thirty two conferences? I did? You did? Yeah?
How did you know that?

Speaker 2 (03:26):
Because the link up pulled upset preview of all thirty two.
I mean before you put that link up, would you
know there is Yeah? I couldn't name them or anything,
but yeah, I knew that there was thirty y.

Speaker 1 (03:35):
So we're gonna do this week the first sixteen and
if you listen the first final is actually I think
Friday night, this coming Friday night, and then there'll be
finals really every night for the rest of the next
nine days. But if you listen to this, you have
this week to get yourself ready for the sixteen finals,

(03:56):
and then next week we will get together and we'll
do the other sixteen. Now, most of these this week, Drew,
I would say, are the non majors. You know, in
the tournament, they always talk about mid major teams, but
they never just say like non major. They have major
mid May But then they act like all these conferences

(04:18):
are mid majors. Some have to.

Speaker 2 (04:19):
Be not major minors.

Speaker 1 (04:23):
I don't know if we want to say minors, but
some of them have to be like low major or minor.
I guess yeah, And we're probably we're probably gonna do
some of these right here.

Speaker 2 (04:34):
It's all right. These can be the most exciting sometimes
these bring the most thrilling, buzzer beaters, most competitive games
because they're playing for that one spot to get into
the big dance.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
That's right. So if you listen to this, you're gonna
be ready for when you go to parties this weekend.
And in the background, the Atlantic Sun championship is on,
You'll have things to talk about with. You'll be able
to go, oh, Atlantic Sun more like Atlantic Fun. You'll

(05:06):
be able to say things like that, and you'll be
the hit of the party.

Speaker 2 (05:09):
That sounds like my kind of party. Just go somewhere,
elsta around, talk a little a sun basketball? Is that
what you're doing this weekend?

Speaker 1 (05:16):
Actually? I am going to at least one of these tournaments.
Oh have you picked? Gonna go through you? And I
have been to some of them.

Speaker 2 (05:24):
There several t shirts.

Speaker 1 (05:26):
Went to the Missouri Valley Tournament one year. Arch Madness
that's in Saint Louis, Billy. Do you get Arch Madness.
It's like the Saint Louis Arch.

Speaker 3 (05:35):
Oh yeah, I've been up in that thing, that small elevator.
You gotta cram inside to get up there.

Speaker 1 (05:40):
Oh you mean the arts, yeah, not Arch Madness. Yeah,
and that's I think the Arch is a huge let
Have you ever been? Yeah, I've been up there. Yeah.
My friends this was how this, you know. We I
was at a really cool fratorney and we were at
the Arch and our friends laid on the ground and
spelled out the fraternity letters and we took a picture
on top of the art well spring Breaks, it was

(06:03):
actually it was actually maybe on spring break.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
Yeah, getting wild. You didn't get any tickets, did you,
he finds.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
You know, it was before cell phones, so like we
had no way of telling them when we were up
there and when we were ready, so they just had
to lay in that position for like twenty minutes.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
That makes it more impressive, honestly, And I mean, did
you have a picture? Did you just do it for you?

Speaker 3 (06:29):
Well?

Speaker 1 (06:29):
He was Actually we had to do it on a
physical camera, right, so there was a physical camera.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
I'm not sure it ever got developed. Le's just getting
more and more dangerous. I like it now, but I
remember when we were at Arch Madness, our seats were
so high up in the arena. I think we were
higher up than the arch. Where did the Blues play?
I can't think.

Speaker 1 (06:46):
I wonder if the people that were walking around were like,
these dudes ever gonna get up in the shape of
cause it was Delta Sigma fied. If you think about
the fire, you have to cross each other, so like
one guy was laying on top of the others.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
Wild spring Break, story Break, Delta five.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Spring Breakers, like it was wild. I mean, I can't
if you weren't there, I don't know what to take.
So we've been to that. You and I have also
been to the Big South Tournament. Do you remember that
in Ashville? I do for some reason.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
I have vivid memories of where we parked, but not
the teams that played.

Speaker 1 (07:20):
No, I'll tell you how you'll remember it. You remember
the president of one of the university was leading the
student section and took his shirt off.

Speaker 2 (07:29):
Remember that. That was like the craziest school president I've
ever seen. I haven't seen a lot of them, probably
three ever, but he was. He was acting like maybe
the most rabid student fan.

Speaker 1 (07:37):
Yeah, he took his shirt off and was in the students.
I want to say. It was like unc Asheville or something,
and he took his shirt off. And then I've been
to uh, I think you went to this too, the OVC.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
I've been there a couple of times.

Speaker 1 (07:50):
Yes, we went in. So we've been to three of
these tournaments.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Throw in the sec that we'll get to later down
the road, but we're just we're not quite the two yet,
but we hope to get there see them all.

Speaker 1 (08:02):
So So here's holding on. We're gonna get started now.
I'm going to name the tournament. Billy's gonna set up
the table for us. He's gonna tell us where the
tournament is in the top four seeds, and then Drew
is gonna give us a sleeper. Now, it can be
one of the you know, three or four seater. It
could be somebody off the radar.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
It could be someone completely pull out of a hat.
I don't know better.

Speaker 1 (08:22):
And then we will pick our winner. So the first
one is the OVC. Now I have some breaking news.
I'm going to be at the OVC turn for Friday night,
so I already know. Billy. It's in Evansville. That's right
at the Ford Center. You going to the Ford Center.
Duncan Kavanaugh and I are making the trip for the
semis Friday night. We decided not going to the finals,

(08:43):
just the semifinals Friday night in Evansville, Like like boys
do more.

Speaker 2 (08:49):
Games at the semifinals. You want as much basketball as
you can take in.

Speaker 1 (08:52):
If we didn't have a remote, I was gonna go
to the quarterfinals.

Speaker 2 (08:56):
That's the attitude.

Speaker 1 (08:57):
But we have a remote, so we can't do it.
So tell me a little bit about the OVC this year.
How's it going who's in it?

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Yeah, let me tell you the top four. It's Little
Rock and ut Martin at the top, and then Morehead
State in Western Illinois round out the three and four seeds.

Speaker 1 (09:12):
First of all, didn't know Little Rock was in the OVC.
Don't think Little Rock is in the Ohio Valley of America.
You said Ut Martin. I think they've been there before.
Morehead's been in it for a while. And who would
you say the other one was Western Illinois? I don't
think I know where that is Illinois, So thank you.

(09:33):
I don't think any of the teams are in or
near Evansville, now, so why do you think the tournament
is in evans.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Evans's just a great place, got the Lloyd Expressway, restaurants
right around the Ford Center. There a little eastn Mall,
kind of the hub of If you drew a circle
around the whole conference, it would probably be right in
the middle.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Okay, all right, so those are the favorites. Do you
have a sleeper on your rate? Now?

Speaker 2 (09:56):
I do have a sleeper, although they might even be
the betting favorite, but they are the number three seed
playing an extra game, so it's not that good.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
They do the bracket where instead there's only like eight
eight eight teams, but they make it to where their
top two seeds are protected, so the bottom four play
and then they play the three and the four, and
then they play the one and the two. So so
so like, you don't want to be the three seed,
which which Morehead is? Right?

Speaker 2 (10:24):
Yeah, but I'm picking Morehead. They're the best team in
the conference. They had just a little bit of a
losing streak, which obviously threw off the standings there. They
lost at Little Rock by two and had some injuries
in that game. You're obviously playing the extra day. You
gotta win another game. But I think they're the better team.
So the three seed is winning the OVC.

Speaker 1 (10:43):
You're taking more hit.

Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'm taking more Head.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Preston Spradlin is the coach of Morehead and we're he's
our friend. He used to live here in Lexington. He
was Cala Perry's what was this job.

Speaker 2 (10:56):
I don't remember the exact role, but he was on
those those first.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
He was with John Wall and DeMarcus Cousins. And so
when you watch Morehead State in the OVC tournament, you
see Preston Spradlin, just think John Wall because they were boys.

Speaker 2 (11:12):
He should take credit for the player, you know how,
like Kenny Payne when he went to Louisville he used
like Julius Randall and some of the graphics. Moreheads should
just claim John wall and to Marcus Cousins and anyone
that was the UK when Preston's Bradlin was there.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Uh, Billy, I'm gonna pick Morehead as well because of Preston. Okay,
here's something you don't know about Morhead. Drew and I
one time went to a fraternity house at Morehead. So,
like most of these stories about us going places, CBS
Sports and Fox Sports in back to back years hired
Drew and I to go to fourteen games in fourteen
days on fourteen campuses. We did it two straight years,

(11:48):
a lot of games. It was a lot of games,
and so most of the weird places we've been are
from that. One of the games was Morehead and it
was when Kenneth far Reid was on the team along
with whatever that guard was. It was the year they
beat Louisville. Yep, we happened to be there early in
the year. They then beat Louisville I think in the
NCAA tournament and when the game was over. There were

(12:09):
some guys who knew who we were and said you
should come back to the frat house with us, and
I guess we were like, yeah, it'll be cool. The
thirty two year old goes to the brat house with
him with these guys, And we went to the frat house.
And here's what I remember of it. It was me, you
and Chris Tomlin and you guys were drinking. I don't
drink a lot. And this guy just looked at you

(12:32):
and me and Tomlin and goes, hey, I know it's
gonna sound crazy, but like if we murdered somebody tonight,
are you cool with it? No, I'm am I kidding
you cool with a little murder man. I think he
was asking if we wanted to actively participate, which we
did not be very clear. I at that point thought,

(12:56):
I mean, I thought he was kidding. You know, you
can't risk him not being kidding. So I asked to leave.
And I remember this was a much younger Drew Franklin.
Drew said, I feel like the nice yeh.

Speaker 2 (13:11):
Yeah, you know, I have to participate.

Speaker 1 (13:14):
There's other things we can do. So I think we
stayed for a little while and then we ended up
at I think the be Duves, which is the only
place to go.

Speaker 2 (13:22):
I mean we were giving a red pill and a
blue pill, and we went with the boneless wings.

Speaker 1 (13:28):
We chose be Duves rather than you know, accessory to murder.
So all of these are the reasons to pick more. Yeah,
we did go in there with intentions. We're on this
road trip, we have one night. We wanted to see
what Lst. Johnson arena and Morehead Basketball. Didn't expect someone
to explain how they know where to make a body disappear.
He had a very detailed plan. It was uncomfortable. Yeah,
he had clearly really thought about it. He was like, well, go,

(13:51):
I've got a truck. The bush hog's running right now.
I mean it's in the back like and I think
he was just trying to see our reaction. But I
don't know. And if they're there, wasn't murder the night
that Moorehead won in two thousand and eleven. I know
the suspects to start if it's unsolved.

Speaker 2 (14:11):
And we were at b Dubs from ten pm to
whenever they closed that night. We were not a part
of it, but it was certainly a weird experience when
We were just trying to take in a lot of
OVC basketball and for.

Speaker 1 (14:21):
That go more ahead.

Speaker 3 (14:23):
I can't think of the three Sea cast that has
that morehead state analysis.

Speaker 1 (14:26):
Let me tell you guarantee you won't. You won't hear
that on the Damn Patrick's show when he previews the
the OVC turnament. All right, so one down, one down,
fifteen to go.

Speaker 2 (14:36):
We nailed that on. Just stop for here.

Speaker 1 (14:37):
What is the next tournament? I have the Big South.

Speaker 3 (14:40):
That's right in high Point, North Carolina. The Big South's
top four teams are, believe it or not, High Points
got the number one seed. Okay, unc Ashville at two,
there you go, Gardner Webb familiar name at three, a
lot of names, and Winthrop comes in at four.

Speaker 1 (14:56):
All right, so let's go through these. Do you remember, Drew,
just last year we went to the Hooters in high Point,
North Carolina? Do you remember that?

Speaker 2 (15:06):
Hang on a second. I feel like in the last
few years we've been to a lot of random wing joints.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
You to know why. We went to the Greensboro tournament
and Ryan just out of nowhere looked at us and said,
I want to go to Hooters like adamantly and he said,
other than the one in Greensboro. Now my question is
where would.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
He You know, a lot of people keep like their
coaching waiting for ever the list, all this stuff in
their pocket. Ryan has his power Hooters power ranisms that
he updates in his pocket.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
By the way, should you tell people about our Greensboro
trip or is that like not for a national pott?

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Probably not?

Speaker 1 (15:45):
Okay? All right, So we go to the We go
to the high forty.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
We've already put ourselves near a murder in our first tournament.

Speaker 1 (15:52):
Pretty hot fifteen minutes. Yeah. Uh. We go to the
high Point and it was during the NCAA tournament. And
the thing I remember about the high Point Hooters is
it's like Billy eight o'clock on let's say the Friday
of the NCAA tournament, oh New Wigan. They had no
games on none, none of the NCAA tur They were
showing a rerun of a spring training baseball game. That's

(16:13):
what they were showing at the high Point. Hoot.

Speaker 2 (16:16):
I remember Duke was playing Duke basketball not far away,
was active in a basketball game, and no one in
there even had any interest in asking.

Speaker 1 (16:28):
So I'm going to say to those of you that
may attend the Big South Tournament this year. Don't think
you can go to Hooters and see the action stay
in the arena.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
Thinking back to that trip, that was a good time
in Greenville, Greensboro, Greensboro, excuse me, it was Greensboro.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
All right. So I have won quite a bit of
money this year. Well, first of all, what is your
what is your sleeper?

Speaker 2 (16:50):
No high point, because they're not focused on any other
teams around there.

Speaker 1 (16:54):
Your sleeper is the one seed.

Speaker 2 (16:55):
Well, all right, I'll go h Presbyterian from way in
the back of the back. Didn't they upset someone earlier
in this year?

Speaker 1 (17:04):
I think yes, Actually they beat Michigan State.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
No, it was there we go.

Speaker 1 (17:12):
They beat Vandyne wouldn't remember that the first game of
the year, they beat Vandy. That's exactly right.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
So the bookend on their season, they're gonna they opened
the season by beating a power five. They're gonna end
it with the conference championship.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
Okay, So now as far as the pick, I'm going
to take unc Asheville. I've won quite a bit of
money this year gambling on unc Asheville and actually gambled
a unc Ashville Presbyterian game at once, So I am
I'm I'm all in on on unc Ashville and I
liked them quite a bit in this tournament. I think

(17:49):
they tied with high Point for the thing, but high
Point got the host, probably because of the hooters. I'm
taking unc Ashville forgot. I am Presbyterian too, just claiming
this is people should know. Since I'm you know, promoting
them and this is gambling, I should let people know
I am Presbyterian. Yeah, the Church of Christ team is
unfortunately not playing. So are you taking high Point as

(18:12):
your pick? No, I'm rolling Presbyterian. I see they're thirty
to one. I'm thinking about that win against Vanderbilt. Look
at the bracket when they When does Presbyterian open up?
And who again?

Speaker 3 (18:21):
They've got a tough matchup against Gardner Webb, the three seed.

Speaker 1 (18:25):
Beat Kentucky many years ago with Billy.

Speaker 3 (18:27):
Glass eight pm, Friday night, March eighth.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
I'm a little worried about the late start. You know,
we're early risers, those Presbyterians. But we'll be fine.

Speaker 1 (18:35):
What's uh, what's like the defining characteristic could be in
a Presbyterian Well.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
I mentioned this before on our show. But sticking with basketball,
we only had half of a gym, and that's where
I learned to play. It's one thing that concerns me
if any teams want to get up and down with Presbyterian,
A little worried about how we'll play in the full court.

Speaker 1 (18:50):
Your church only had a half court.

Speaker 2 (18:52):
Yeah, well, and actually it was full court, but it
was a very small gym.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
Oh, it was a full court, just condensed.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
Yeah, and then you know, gotcha, if there's a pot
luck anything going on, it goes in there first.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
You have to know the full size. It does make
a difference, Billy. We had Ohio Valley Wrestling for our
new listeners. I am one of the owners of Ohio
Valley Restling at Manchester Music Hall and they said to us, hey,
put your ring there. That's where the midget wrestling put
their ring because they had had midget wrestling when it

(19:24):
didn't fit the way they they said, they go, oh, yeah,
their ring is half the size, which that's not a joke.
Midget wrestling rings are twelve by twelve. Regular wrestling ring
is twenty by twenty. Okay, makes sense. Proportions. Never knew
them very similar to Presbyterian churches.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Okay, I guess I kind of see how you made
that leap a little bit. I'm just just saying I
worry about us on a full size court rather than
that we're gonna be all right.

Speaker 1 (19:50):
All right, so we both I'm going with you in
c Ashville. You are your serious pick. Yes, right, all right,
there you go, all right. Next is the Missouri Valley.
Tell us about the Missouri that's right, the MVC.

Speaker 3 (20:03):
It's going to be at the Enterprise Center in Saint
Louis in Indiana state has the number one seat.

Speaker 1 (20:09):
I believe, Cream Abdul Jabbar.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
That's right, Drake locked up the two. Bradley will be
representing the three, and you and.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
I will be four. Is that Northern Iowa? I believe.
So you and I have been there. We've been to
that school. One of my favorites got snowed in at
Northern Iowa. They have a they have a campus. Their
gym is like a ymca. The gym is here and
there's a walking track around the top where like old

(20:40):
ladies on top of the gym. Yeah, so you know,
I mean think about like if you were to go
to Planet Fitness or whatever, and there'd be a gym,
and then there'd be a walking track sort of over it.
That's their gym at Northern Iowa and they have to
leave it open for the walkers. My life, I feel

(21:01):
like I remember free pizza there too, and they gave
away free pizza that it was a big game. They
were playing Old Dominion in the old bracket Buster and
it was televised and Drew and I went and they
gave away free pizza to get their students there, and
I just remember it was this massive game. It was

(21:22):
the year nor then I would beat Kansas. You remember
that was the year we were there that Jay Foraroka
Manous or whatever. Weeks before they went, saw him right
before they went. Yeah, we were there that year and
I remember this big game. And yet there were these
old ladies top of the arena in Cedar.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Falls, Iowa.

Speaker 1 (21:47):
I get this. It's either it's I think it's there
is a Cedar Rapids and a Cedar Falls. And I
think before than I was in Cedar Falls with head
coach Ben Jacobson, who's still the head coach. There was
a crazy guy the student section who's fully painted, and
he added me on Facebook and would just randomly check
out with me. Years later, i've rooted for that team

(22:07):
more than any other team beyond Kentucky because of that
random Cedar falls, correct, Cedar falls. I do remember they
had like a beautiful woman there that you and I
that you considered moving to Cedar Falls for, and.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
Then I looked around. Never mind no offense Cedar falls.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
Yeah. Now, this will be a big tournament because I
Indian State and Drake are both very good. They both
probably should make the NCAA tournament, but neither is a lock.
So that championship game on Sunday, if it's those two teams,
might be the most important championship game in all of
Championship Week because it's two teams that are both very good.
One of them might not make the tournament unless they win.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
Isn't it a little unfair that the world wants Indiana
State to win?

Speaker 1 (22:50):
Though?

Speaker 2 (22:50):
I mean, these poor teams that Larry nerd is is
gonna be the best thing for college basketball. Indiana State
has to get through this and get him in the field.
So I mean, I guys have to do my sleeper pick.
But I think we all know that America will be
rooting for him because of you reminding me of our
great time there. My Facebook picture was me in the
student section for many years. I'm picking my panthers. You

(23:16):
even to one, they're the four seed. I hate saying it,
but let's go ahead. Get Larry Nerd out of there early.
Go ahead and get him out of the field so
people can get over it. Know that he's not in
March madness, and I'll take Northern Iowa.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
I'm going. I mean, I'm going with kream Abdul Jabbar.
I mean, I can't go with I gotta go with
the dude with the chubby dude with the tattoo and
the goggles. The Wall Street Journal called about him today.
I mean, I've got to be on his side. Even
though we've never met, he apparently now knows who I
am for putting the tweet out, so I got to
pick him.

Speaker 2 (23:49):
I don't know how a lot of these teams have
done all year. I'm not watching it closely, but you
have a lot of teams like Belmont Murray State where
they're not seated where they normally be, but they I mean,
that's some names that are that are used to being.

Speaker 1 (24:00):
In the midst and that game is like Sunday or
Saturday before Kentucky and Tennessee like it's on regular CBS.
It's on like the regular you know, main as I said, CBS.
So arch madness. It's arch madness, all right. So next
I have the Atlantic Sun. Tell me about the Atlantic Side.

Speaker 3 (24:18):
That's right, A little bit different in the Atlantic Sun.
They are hosting by campus site in this tournament. So
e Ku is the one seed.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Oh, Eastern Kentucky's the one seed. That's right. Okay.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Stetson comes in at two lips at three in Austin
p at four.

Speaker 1 (24:35):
It feels like this should be the Ohio Valley, right,
Like those are the same teams that were in the
Ohio Valley.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
You threw me off earlier this morning on our morning show.
I couldn't name it a team from this commerce. I'd
forgotten a lot of the old o VC teams had moved.

Speaker 1 (24:48):
Yeah, so I'm gonna peak Eastern. Their coach is what
a W. A W Hamilton, A W. Hamilton. Every time
I hear his name, I think of the guy who
ran for Jaylor in Bell County named j W.

Speaker 2 (25:04):
Heard, I think of Alexander Hamilton.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
Okay, ever tell you about his song? No, I don't
know if I should sing this song on a podcast
that is now national. But he ran for Sheriff Jaylor.
He ran for Jaylor and he has and he sang
it himself. Yeah, I need to hear it, all right.
It went like this. This was like when I was six,

(25:28):
and I still remember this. JB, you heard is a man?
J Dub you heard for land. He proved it in
World War Two. He'll prove it again for you. JB,
you heard is a man? Wow, that was beautiful.

Speaker 2 (25:48):
I wonder if.

Speaker 1 (25:51):
I was talking about him with my mom because I
remember that song and she told me he died a
few years ago. He did not win, but he's should have.
He won when he made that song. But remember his
main campaign theme was He's a man, no flaws in that.
That was the That was the punchline, is that he's
a man.

Speaker 2 (26:11):
But you remember the song, so that worked.

Speaker 1 (26:13):
So because of him, I have to pick Eastern in
aw Hamlet.

Speaker 2 (26:17):
Well, I feel like there's a theme here me picking
the four seed. But I like my Austin p governors here.
You used to be a manager, former ball boy.

Speaker 1 (26:25):
No, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (26:26):
I couldn't be a manager. I tried and tried as
hard as I'd scrubbed that cord during time out. So
I just never got to hold a clipboard. But yes
I did. I did log several minutes on the Austin
pe baseline. Uh as a as a young kid, I
thought Let's Go Pee was the greatest chance in the
history of sports. I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 1 (26:44):
I still think it's the great Well, I mean, the
greatest chant in college basketball history was when they had
James Fly Williams. Who's the best player, Billy, you've probably
never heard of, Okay, look him up. He's like considered
the best New York street ball player in history. New
York Times has written about him. His name is James
Fly Williams. He went to Austin P and they had

(27:04):
a chance that said the flies open, Let's go pee.
It's gonna ask Afro.

Speaker 2 (27:10):
You can't beat that.

Speaker 1 (27:11):
Hey, they'll never be a better chance than that. Will there. No,
it's it's perfect.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
It's really perfect, just like this seven to one odds
on the Governor's Let's Go Pee. I can't name a player.

Speaker 1 (27:22):
I can't believe how much stuff is coming to my mind.
I think they brought James Fly Williams back to where
is Austin P. What's the town of Sarksville, Clarksville. I
think they brought him back like a year or two
ago to retires Jersey. I didn't get to vit.

Speaker 2 (27:35):
I thought they would have had me to come back
to Usually they have us all down there on the court.

Speaker 1 (27:42):
They should have. He was star though. Yeah. So so
I'm going with Eastern Uh, you're going with Austin p
all right, next conference. I know the membership of this
conference has changed dramatically, so I have no idea who's
in it. The Sun Belt.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Called by the fun Belt by some, it's going to
be in Pensacola, Florida. App State is the one seed.

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Okay, they're good. Actually they beat Auburn this year.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
We've got James Madison at two two in three in
Arkansas State in four.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
So James Madison I think is up for an at
large bid and they're a two. Yes, James Madison at
the two. Huh.

Speaker 2 (28:21):
And it seems every time for Kentucky's purposes because that's
what we focus on. They love putting app State in
the same bracket as Kentucky and all these projections.

Speaker 1 (28:30):
Do they Yep, James Madison is a gate in three
and I think they beat Michigan State, an app state
must be good too. If they're ahead of them, I'm
taking James Madison. Been a great year for them. Their
football team is good. Pft went was the picker. They
had college game Day for a game this year. I
think that the ride continues. Give me James Madison in Pensacola.

(28:55):
You been what's in Pensacola? You there?

Speaker 2 (28:58):
That's where the Blue Angels are. I think I haven't
been there for the Panhandle.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Oh, that's in the Panhandle. You don't want to go
there now, you don't The panhandles like those are the
weirdest people. So I'm serious, like, and I'm from eastern Kentucky.
The panhandleswear like when you see videos of like somebody
like did you see the video tweeted out today of
the Trump guy who's like he said that he didn't

(29:25):
want a woman to be president because she can't scratch
her balls? Did you not see the video? That's not
when you started that sentence for the podcast, you know
what I gotta say. You don't really want to let
me hear its president you have no balls to scratch?

(29:49):
Scratch it. All the women's good for my book is
having babes and taking care of the house. And that's
that's the old thing. You know. I'm old school, so
you never even considered her mainly because she's a woman's female.
I mean, females. Don't take me wrong. Females know what
they're doing, but they still got to have a little

(30:10):
bit of guidance. Probably goodness, this was this was just
like a few years ago. This is not like. This
was not like in the nineteen six Willingly said that
into a camera. Yes, and he used his name. He
lives in Graham, North Carolina. So for because of him alone,
I'm picking James Madison.

Speaker 2 (30:32):
I guess I'll go with app State. They're the favorite here.
I know my assignment is to be the sleeper.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
That's okay, you can pick the favor Yeah, and I've.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Done a lot of four seats get to become a
little problem here. Family has been talking to me about it.
So I'm going to go with app State here. They've
I'm looking at their schedule here, they've only lost one
game since January sixth to Texas State.

Speaker 1 (30:50):
So why don't they have these tournaments where the teams
are like, wouldn't it be tender to see App State
and James Madison play where their fan bases could go
than play in Pensacola.

Speaker 2 (31:00):
I meant to ask you on the last tournament we were
talking about, because it's campuses, you do you like going
to the campuses or do you like centralized location?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
I like the campuses, especially for these small conferences because
who wants to see an empty like who wants to
see an empty arena for the final game? You know,
Like I'm sure in Evansville that's not going to be
a great atmosphere. You're going to be there.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
You're one of the people that's going to be there.

Speaker 1 (31:25):
Yeah, So I would say I prefer the arena. What
about you?

Speaker 2 (31:29):
I think some of them might do like a round
on the campus sites to you know, weed out your
eleven seeds and then they moved somewhere. But yeah, but
when it gets to you know, your quarterfinals, I'd want
it to all be in one spot. Like the SEC tournament.
We're going to do it next week. I loved all day.
Just put me in Bridgetone arena.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
Yeah, well, I would say this will again. We talked
about this with Indiana State and Drake app State James
Madison final would be a game you'd want to watch.
I mean, they're both teams that they're the eleven or
twelve seed that could win a first round game. Thirteen
seed there, that would be a game to watch. Right

(32:07):
the Southern Conference, where's that? Yes?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
Our sixth conference game that we're picking is in Ashville,
North Carolina. Samford has locked up the one seed. Okay,
UNC Greensboro is it the two? Chattanooga is at three
in Western Carolina, rounds us out Seah.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
I like that it's very centrally located for all four
of those teams. All four of those teams could drive
to that arena if they want to. I have seen
Samford play. They run up and down the court, drew like,
they get up and down. They are one of the
fastest team. I think they might be one of the
highest scoring teams in the country. They're fun to watch.

(32:45):
Give me Sanford a Baptist school.

Speaker 2 (32:48):
I like Ashville is a place where it's like a
little bit of a destination too, so even if your
team's not very good, you might still get a turn.

Speaker 1 (32:55):
They still have the people who Hulu houp in downtown
where in Ashville? Remember this you were with me? Oh yeah,
there's a park in downtown Ashville. It was very weird
where we went twice over the course of two years,
and both times we went there were a group of
people just hula hooping, which makes me think, I just
assume people are always huluoping in downtown Ashville. I don't

(33:19):
know if that's true, but I've been twice They've hulahum
both times, so I'm gonna assume they did.

Speaker 2 (33:24):
When we went, there's so many people in one spot
and they weren't really communicating. They're all it looked like
they were hypnotized. I was like, is someone gonna do
something about this? But then people are just walking by
them with groceries and walking dogs, like it's just normal
to be in that little square hula hooping.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
You and Abby like go to Built Moore to like
have a romantic weekends, right and look at leaves? Or
am I wrong about that?

Speaker 3 (33:46):
Well?

Speaker 2 (33:46):
I've never been to the Biltmore, but I do like Asheville.
We've been to Nashville. We stayed at the Haunted Hotel
there one time. You might be thinking of that trip. No,
I haven't done the Bill Moore. I actually have an
Ashville trip on the books coming up.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
So yeah, technically like Ashville is one of those places
for people who live in the other parts of the country.
The only people that go are married, Like you would
like before that you and I I mean you did
like Turkey Hunter big on Ashville trips. You know, it's
like the gatlin Burg for the bougie of this area.

Speaker 2 (34:19):
Well, my upcoming when we're only going it's part of
a longer drive and it's a nice stopping point. But
I like it has a good beer scene.

Speaker 1 (34:27):
What does that mean?

Speaker 2 (34:28):
They got a lot of good beer?

Speaker 1 (34:29):
I mean anywhere, well they do, but.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Sierra Nevada their brewery it's really big. There a lot
of things that would do. It's like a destination. I'm
not saying pack up the kids and go there. And
when we go in a few months, it's gonna be
only our second time going together.

Speaker 1 (34:44):
It's been a lot. Maybe we will go to the
biltmore and tell you about it. Yeah, the billboard is
just like a rich person's house, right, That's what I
do think. Though. There are a few blocks at Ashville
where everything is like old timmy Billy so so, like
even the McDonald's is built like an eighteen eighties house and.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
They got barstools and paper hats on there.

Speaker 1 (35:12):
The architecture they every building there has to look like
an old timmy building, including there's a McDonald's that looks
to get that.

Speaker 2 (35:20):
It's a few places like ski towns, you're not allowed
to bring in your yellow sign. You have to kind
of match the you have to everything around you. So
it's weird. He's you're right, like it doesn't look like
a normal mcdonal.

Speaker 1 (35:31):
Place around the billboard. It's like the six or eight
blocks around the billboard.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Where I frequent I'm a platinum member.

Speaker 1 (35:39):
Park up front, I'm taking Sanford. Did you did you
have one? Uh? You going four seed?

Speaker 2 (35:47):
Driw? I was thinking about it. I'll go three seed Chattanooga.
They're doing good things down there. Shoot chewing.

Speaker 1 (35:56):
I just okay, So you got Chattanoog the Moccasins, yep.

Speaker 2 (36:00):
I bounced back since losing.

Speaker 1 (36:02):
I went one time with an ext girlfriend to Ashville.
We didn't stay at the Biltmore, but I remember being
in a really nice hotel and I walked around the
corner and there was a sign just over a regular
room that said Barack Obama stayed here, And I went, well,
that's weird, And then down the road or down the hall.
Was a conference room that said he prepared for a debate,

(36:22):
like one of the Obama McCain debates was at this
place in Asheville, North.

Speaker 2 (36:29):
That was at the Grove Park Inn.

Speaker 1 (36:30):
That was it.

Speaker 2 (36:31):
Okay, so that's where my haunted room was. A bunch
of presidents had been there.

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Obama being one of them.

Speaker 2 (36:36):
Yeah, we only stayed one night. It's fite mare. But
I'm laying in bed, my wife is brushing her teeth.
The night is over, and I'm just reading about our
hotel and it says it's one of the haunted places,
and the sun are so scared of haunted places. Well,
this is pretty crazy that I'm like, wow, look this
is the hotel we're staying.

Speaker 1 (36:54):
I should read this.

Speaker 2 (36:55):
So I start reading the story and it's about a
woman who killed herself and she still haunts the hotel
and it says she haunts room whatever it was, No,
it's the room I am currently. I swear I've never
felt like that in my life. I couldn't see myself,
but I had to have turned bright white. I couldn't
even tell her. We're like, do we get up and leave?

(37:16):
We considered I did not sleep. I stared at the
ceiling all night and as soon as the sun was up.

Speaker 1 (37:21):
Yeah, you really believe in ghosts, like you really think
it's a thing.

Speaker 2 (37:25):
But I'm saying, imagine you're reading a story and you
don't really believe it, but it is your exact room.
That's a little bit different.

Speaker 1 (37:33):
But when we went to Oklahoma City to that hotel
that scares all the NBA players, you all were freaked out.

Speaker 2 (37:39):
No, no, no, I was good. That was Ryan and Shan.
They slept with the lights on. I was good. I mean,
I had fun mocking it, but it didn't bother me.
But to be reading a story and then it says
the room number and you're in that bed, that was
no wonder.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
This room was eighty dollars.

Speaker 2 (37:53):
It was not eighty dollars. That's a nice play park
is very expensive.

Speaker 1 (37:56):
I'm just gonna tell your your dad and brother could
have get the Super Bowl to pay to go there.
It is a very expensive place.

Speaker 2 (38:03):
Just to be scared.

Speaker 1 (38:04):
All right. What the next I have is the Horizon Conference.

Speaker 3 (38:08):
That's right, That'll take place at the Indiana Farmers Coliseum
in Indianapolis, Oakland. Is the one seed Youngstown State comes
in at two, Green Bay at three, in Wright State
at four, has a tough matchup with the five seed
Northern Kentucky Norsemen.

Speaker 1 (38:23):
I'm going to take Right State. I went to ww
RAW once on the campus of Right State in Dayton
and no, no, excuse me, what am I talking about? You
got me confused. I don't want right I want green Bay,
green Bay, Green Bay. I've won two or three games
betting on green Bay this year. Give me green Bay

(38:44):
to win as a three seed in the Horizon.

Speaker 2 (38:48):
I'm very well versed in the Horizon Conference tournament. This
is one of the ones where they go to campuses
and then go to Indy and they reshuffle them. I
mean they do all the tricks. So their final four
they reseed. I think they're quarterfinals. You know, we've seen
some of these teams play Youngstown State.

Speaker 1 (39:05):
Youngstown State, we saw him play. Did you know it's
the best season Youngstown State has had since nineteen seventy
nine and they're still only a two seat yep.

Speaker 2 (39:13):
We watched them play at Ohio, which is why they
are my pick. And you remember there was a local
Kentucky kid there, Gabe dot and dines A freshmen that
we were excited to see. He ended up being an
All Freshman All Defensive player.

Speaker 1 (39:26):
So I'm going with the Penguins taking the Penguins Youngstown State.
So I've got Green Bay, you got Youngstown. Who is
the one seat? Who are we betting against? Oakland?

Speaker 2 (39:36):
Oakland s Boo Oakland and Northern Kentucky. They don't be
in the mix a little bit. They have Henry Clay.

Speaker 1 (39:42):
High School sleeping score.

Speaker 2 (39:43):
I know I'm being very local here, but for our
Kentucky listeners, that's good. Well connection.

Speaker 1 (39:47):
Vince Marrow played at Youngstown Stown. That's a UK assistant coach.
That's right, Youngstown. A lot of things happening in Youngstown.
All right. So we'll finish the first half of these
picks for this show with the Northeast Conference.

Speaker 3 (40:00):
That the Northeast Conference will do it by campus sites.

Speaker 1 (40:03):
So it'll be at the place the host of the
number one seed. So who's the one set? Uh? The
bracket's not loading, So anytime you're ready, dude, Really this
is I mean, you have one job is to pull
up the bracket for the Northeast Conference. Like, do I

(40:24):
need to do it? Uh? You might?

Speaker 2 (40:26):
Yeah, this is Okay, I'll do the Central Connecticut is
the one seed.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Central Connecticut. All right, So where is Central Connecticut University?
I can just tell you, just while you're looking it up.
The worst state when you get outside of the big
places is Connecticut. Connecticut is one big, horrible town. No,

(40:52):
I'm serious. I've driven through Connecticut a bunch because when
I worked at ESPN, I had to drive from New
York City to Bristol, Connecticut. It's about a three two
and a half three hour drive. It's all through rural
towns in Connecticut, and depending on the traffic, you have
to go like six different ways. I've been to all
those little ship towns in Connecticut and they all stink.

Speaker 2 (41:15):
We struck a nerve with Connecticut over there.

Speaker 1 (41:17):
I'm just saying they call it Nutmeg state. I didn't
see any Nutmeg anywhere. Billy. It's awful.

Speaker 2 (41:24):
So you're excited about this.

Speaker 1 (41:27):
Where is Central Connecticut? Stay?

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (41:31):
Connecticut?

Speaker 2 (41:34):
New Britain?

Speaker 1 (41:35):
No, I've been to New Britain. That was our city,
that was our city of the week.

Speaker 2 (41:41):
Full circle she got pregnant?

Speaker 1 (41:45):
You mean the mayor? Yes? Yeah. For people who who
knew Central Connecticut state Circle, you know, what we could
have done. We could have just gone to that tournament,
seen her, visited the baby.

Speaker 2 (41:57):
I mean, you seem so excited to go to Connecticut.

Speaker 1 (41:59):
I can't. I cannot stand Bristol. First, people don't know.
ESPN's in the worst place, like the worst place.

Speaker 2 (42:08):
They're in a lot around it. It was a nice
Mexican restaurant we went to, though.

Speaker 1 (42:12):
It's the only thing in it is the Mexican restaurant.
So like all those people you see on TV, just
know that to be on ESPN, unless you're Steve and
A and you get to live in New York, they're
having to live in the worst place on the earth.

Speaker 2 (42:24):
Where would you rant Connecticut in your states right now?

Speaker 1 (42:28):
Hartford and I and you know, there's a lot of
rich people in like Samford and some of those places.
But when you get into rural Connecticut, only Kansas is worse.

Speaker 2 (42:39):
It's forty nine. It's tough.

Speaker 1 (42:41):
I'm just I'm I'm just being real. So who are
the top four seats? I do have this now?

Speaker 3 (42:47):
So after Central Connecticut we have Mary Mac at two,
Sacred Heart at three, and Lemoyne at four.

Speaker 1 (42:56):
Miss Mary mac Mac, that's Mac in black. You're taking
Mary Mack.

Speaker 2 (43:02):
Yep, they're the only Ken Palm top two hundred team.
They're seventy sixth in defense in this conference. This was
two seed bring it.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
This was the conference that Fairley Dickinson was in. If
I remember correctly, Fairley Dickinson, even though they beat Purdue
last year, didn't even win their conference. And the team,
but the team that won the conference was not eligible
for the NCAA Tournament because they had just going D
one and that team was Mary Mack. Look at that.
So I'm taking Mary Mack to uh go to the

(43:35):
I'm definitely not picking central Connecticut State.

Speaker 2 (43:39):
So yeah, Mary Max, not in Connecticut, get you outside
of New Jersey.

Speaker 1 (43:43):
I think it's an Yes, I don't know, whatever it
could be. It's good enough.

Speaker 2 (43:48):
I'm taking Are we Are we a Mary Mack podcast?
You would agree because they were my pick? I said,
they're I'm picking them for being top two hundred.

Speaker 1 (43:56):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (43:56):
Are we both picking them?

Speaker 1 (43:57):
Both? Taking Mary Mack?

Speaker 2 (43:58):
All right?

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Speaker 3 (45:32):
Matt in the Northeast Merrimack, Okay, oh, you guys agreed.

Speaker 1 (45:37):
Next the Coastal, Yes, you know this used to be
the Colonial and they changed it because it was racist.
Oh I didn't know colonial was racist. Well, I don't
know if it was ray It's more like colonialism, which
is not good. So they said.

Speaker 3 (45:57):
Coastal, now Glood, we changed Washington. D C is where
this is taking prey place. It's Charleston at the one,
Drexel at two, Hofstra at three, and u n c
W at four.

Speaker 1 (46:11):
No.

Speaker 2 (46:11):
Four seeds from me in this one.

Speaker 1 (46:14):
Again. I'm gonna go with who's won me money this year?
And I've been pretty successful this year betting on Drexel,
So give me the fighting bruiser flints of Drexel, which
is located in Philadelphia, PA.

Speaker 2 (46:29):
I'll take Drexel, you know, I see your Drexel. I'm
looking at the three seed Hofster. You know why why?

Speaker 1 (46:38):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (46:39):
I don't know what all. No, I have absolutely idea.
This just doesn't feel like one where the one seed
is gonna win. You took Drexel. I look down in
my bracket that I have in front of me and
a winked at me. You ever do that have a
bet pop in your head that you wouldn't only want
to do, and then you're like, well if I don't
bet it hits, it'll hurt you. Yeah, I've got like

(47:00):
exact score before because I've just had a random thought
of an exact score, and I'm like, on the off
chance that word hit, I gotta put.

Speaker 1 (47:06):
A little number one.

Speaker 2 (47:07):
No, but that's what That's what hoftridg just did to me.
It gave me a little look. Who Charleston is the
one seed they play a U n c W.

Speaker 1 (47:17):
Charleston. Is that when you think of like kids schools
that rich Southern kids go to, is Charleston the number
one thing that comes to mind?

Speaker 2 (47:31):
It's gotta be in the conversation. Have you ever been there?

Speaker 1 (47:35):
I've been to the city, I haven't been to the campus.

Speaker 2 (47:37):
I haven't been to the campus, but just thinking about
the city, what the campus would like, the campus would
be like.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
Yeah, Johnny Bruce got married in Charleston, remember that? And
I was in the wedding and I forgot to take
a suit. It's tough, that's what you need at the wedding.
So I had to go to like a frat boy
suit place because that's really what they had and buy

(48:05):
a suit and it didn't really fit, but I had
to wear that for the rehearsal dinner and the wedding.
I had to wear the same thing to both things
in Charleston. So I've been gooding muggy there too. Oh
so hot.

Speaker 2 (48:20):
I was on a bachelor party there.

Speaker 1 (48:22):
Yeah, it's a don't get me wrong, it's a really
cool city. But it's very much like rich, southern, aristocratic.

Speaker 2 (48:29):
I just when people go to school at a at
a destination like that, I don't know how they get
anything done. I'm sure they're just used to being in Charleston.

Speaker 1 (48:37):
How could you go to school in New Orleans? New Orleans,
Las Vegas. Yeah, UNLV, how do you do anything? How
do you go to school? Even at like NYU.

Speaker 2 (48:45):
I had trouble going to school in Lexington and Keenland
only runs a few weeks a year.

Speaker 1 (48:51):
Yeah, I mean I understand how people go to school
at Center like in Danvill Canday don't have anything to do.
Same thing with Central Connecticut at State in New Britain
or Duke. There's stuff to do in Durham, Raleigh and
Chapel Hill. But but same general point. But if you're
in New Orleans, how do you study?

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Yeah, I'm in these places where you're like a tourist
destination where there's just so much going.

Speaker 1 (49:15):
On, something like that Miami. Yeah, have you ever seen
the pictures of the campus at like University of Tampa
or flooda Gulf coast where everyone's just walking around in
bikinis and.

Speaker 2 (49:28):
Like studying on the beach, Like, how do you go
to school?

Speaker 1 (49:31):
How can you go sit in a class and learn
about economics when there's a beach right out there? Couldn't
do it.

Speaker 2 (49:39):
That's why I brought up I'm sure Charleston I would
be like that. At Charleston, I'd be out.

Speaker 1 (49:43):
That's why all the best schools are in terrible places.
Harvard's in Cambridge, Massachusetts, Yales in New Haven, Connecticut. Right,
m hm, because you have to be you gotta be focused. Yeah.
West Coast Conference drew a from you.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
Oh which one were we on thea?

Speaker 1 (50:04):
He picked?

Speaker 2 (50:05):
Yeah, this twice you've asked our picks, but we just
went over this.

Speaker 1 (50:08):
We have a very similar job here.

Speaker 3 (50:10):
The brackets are just they're getting a little wonky here,
so it is tough to I know, it's a lot
West Coast Conference, the West Coast Conference, which will be
in Paradise, Nevada. I'm not sure if you've been there.

Speaker 1 (50:24):
It's not a real place. It's not that's just Vegas,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (50:28):
Yeah, little Saint Mary's Gonzaga here.

Speaker 1 (50:31):
Isn't this game? Isn't that game like at the MGM
or something every year like Paradise, Nevada. Isn't that just Vegas?
Believe I think it is? Anyway, go ahead.

Speaker 3 (50:39):
Saint Mary's, Gonzaga, San Francisco, and Santa Clara are the
top four season.

Speaker 1 (50:44):
It's gonna be Saint Mary's or Gonzaga. They just played
at Saint Mary's last weekend and Gonzaga pounded them. I
thought Gonzaga stunk, but then really, since they beat UK,
they've kind of gone on a run. So I think
you gotta pick Gonzaga here, right, even though Saint Mary
is the one seat.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
Yes, and having seen Gonzag in person when they beat
Kentucky and rupp Arena, I'm a little shocked that they
hadn't one more games. I was impressed by them. I
know that's against Kentucky's defense, but I think they'll also
be hungry to not have that streak of or whatever
it is, twenty five years of making the tournament. I
don't think they'll want that to end.

Speaker 1 (51:18):
You know, we have a chance to have to go
to the first and second round games for Kentucky in Spokane, Washington.
Have you prepared yourself for that? No, it's probably just
gonna be me and you if we go.

Speaker 2 (51:28):
I'm actually very excited. For years, like this job was,
I have no life in March. I'm going where the
team goes, you pack up, you live out of a suitcase.
And it was fun. We haven't done that in a while.
I mean, we went to Greensboro last year and we
got a weekend, but Kentucky needs.

Speaker 1 (51:45):
It's more than a week about it to drive.

Speaker 2 (51:48):
Yeah, whenever I'll walk. I just I want to have
more than you heard it. But I'm serious, like I'm
ready to do it again. It's been so many years.

Speaker 1 (51:56):
If this, Billy, I mean, the so Can games are
on a Friday, so we could drive. I'm gonna give
you the scenario where we drive. There is a scenario
where we drive, and it's if we play in Spokane
and then La the next one. Yeah. Now, I don't
expect that to happen, but honestly, if we do that,

(52:20):
it's gonna be most cost efficient, probably to drive, because
because if we've fly to Spokane, we're still gonna have
to rent a car to go to LA and then
fly and then maybe Phoenix if they made the Final four.
So it'd probably just be easier to drive. Yes, but
can you imagine the drive home after losing in Spokane.

(52:41):
That would suck. And that's the point.

Speaker 2 (52:44):
My excitement is that it's gonna be more than one
game like it was last year or the year before
where I drove to Indianapolis did not even unzip my suitcase.
I thought I was gonna be there for three or
four days. I got back in the car and just
came home.

Speaker 1 (52:58):
Yeah, so we're both taking good Yes, all right, let's
go to the Summit Conference.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
That's right, the eleventh conference tournament that we're picking in
South Dakota. The first seed is South Dakota State. I
may have a little bit of advantage there. Let's see
where you still don't Number two Kansas City, Number three
North Dakota, and number four Saint Thomas.

Speaker 1 (53:21):
Saint Thomas and Minnesota, who has been my worst gambling
team of the year. I've whether I pick them or not,
it doesn't so South. I think South Dakota, South Dakota State,
North Dakota, and North Dakota State are all in this conference.
That's correct. Correct, And it's very confusing. And you said
the one is South Dakota or South Dakota State.

Speaker 3 (53:42):
South Dakota State's the one. They could play South Dakota
if they beat Oral Roberts in the eight nine game.

Speaker 1 (53:48):
Man, Oral Roberts are far away from these places. That's
down in Texas. I'm going to take South Dakota State
with the home court advantage to move on. I think
they are the what's their name? They have a weird
jack rabbits, jack rabbits.

Speaker 2 (54:01):
Yes, I just think the Taylor swift of magic continues
with Kansas City. Granted this is their local university and
not their a NFL team, but as the two seed,
I have them running through all of the Dakota teams
to win the conference tournament.

Speaker 1 (54:18):
All right, So you got Kansas City, Kansas City, Yes,
I do. I got South Dakota State. I think of
all the conferences, this would be the one that I
could in my life see myself going to the tournament
the least. Can you think of any scenario you would
find yourself at the Summit Conference tournament.

Speaker 2 (54:39):
If you called me and Saidrew, we're doing one of
those road trips again, I'm just like, yep, sounds like
a direction.

Speaker 1 (54:44):
Of Kentucky gets some probation, can't go to the SEC tournament.
We're looking for something to do.

Speaker 2 (54:49):
I mean, what is even the draw here? I mean,
I guess no, nothing. I really have nothing.

Speaker 1 (54:55):
I don't either. All right, South One, that's a good
church here in Lexing. And what is the conference?

Speaker 3 (55:01):
Well, Southland doesn't have the bracket up, but we do
have the standing.

Speaker 2 (55:04):
Number one is McNeice McNeese Cowboys. Number two is A
and M Corpus Christy.

Speaker 1 (55:09):
That's right.

Speaker 3 (55:09):
We also have what is that Nichols and then also
Lamar as your top four.

Speaker 1 (55:16):
So I come to this one with a little insight.
You know, McNee State is really good, Like they're like
twenty nine and two or something. Will Wade is a coach, Yes,
former LSU coach. They gave him an extension. He's crushing in.
This might be my most confident pick of all. Like,

(55:37):
if you you know how you can play the game
where you rank them thirty two to one in the
what's it called confidence rankings? My thirty two would be
McNee State. They win every game by lot. Give me
McNee State. Where is that? Where'd you say this was?
I didn't, so where is it? Are you just if

(55:58):
you just giving up on doing this now?

Speaker 3 (56:00):
The ESPN link they started getting worse and worse as.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
We went down. Wait, Charles Louisiana, I'll just do you
know what, I'll just do it. I guess that was
the last one. Anyway, what do you mean there's four more? Oh?
I thought we were doing twelve.

Speaker 2 (56:12):
We're doing sixteen. But go ahead, I think he's stop four.
Ago can't go against your McNeese State. They're all I'm
big ken palm guy. They're also top seventy five in
both offense and defense there where the rest of the
conference isn't even near that.

Speaker 1 (56:25):
Allright, So what are they ranked in the kimpom? If
they're top seventy five in.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
Offense, they're ranked pretty high sixty seventh of all teams. Yeah,
for that level. That's impressive for that level. And uh,
you mentioned his extension. He's signed a pretty big deal.
You know that wouldn't be I don't know that he'd
stay there much longer if he does this another year
or two. But yeah, they're a real contender. That's my
heavy favorite to win this league on conference? Uh confidence,

(56:52):
is McNee State put everything you got? Is there a
way to bet on DraftKings? Is there a way to
bet McNee st eight to win the conference tournament? They're
definitely is Let me pull up those odds.

Speaker 1 (57:03):
They have conference tournament odds.

Speaker 2 (57:06):
They're not necessarily all of them up at this moment,
but yes, we'll find McNeice if it's on there. They've
also won eight straight games, so they're pretty hot too.

Speaker 1 (57:15):
Here we go March Madness. Providence to make the tournament.
That's not what I'm looking.

Speaker 2 (57:20):
There are a lot of fun March madness props on
there as well on our friends at DraftKings.

Speaker 1 (57:26):
Okay, here we go Team Futures Conference winner Mountain West
for you, no conference tournament winners.

Speaker 2 (57:35):
Doesn't look like they have the conference they have them
to make the final four and be the tournament.

Speaker 1 (57:40):
You know what, we should bet some of these on here, right, Drew, Like,
I mean, we should bet like your Horizon League. Has
Youngstown stayed at plus one ninety five?

Speaker 2 (57:50):
I already bet that. Yeah, I already bet morehead on
that one. I don't know if I'll do Youngstown.

Speaker 1 (57:58):
Mary max plus one twenty more heads even money. That's
not great odds. But yeah, a lot of good stuff
on here. All right, what's next?

Speaker 3 (58:07):
Big Sky is going to be in Boise, Idaho with
Eastern Washington as the one seed. Northern Colorado is the two,
Montana and webberd State for weber What was the one
Eastern Washington?

Speaker 1 (58:25):
I saw? I watched Weber State play last night and
they were They lost to someone, So I'm going to
take you know what, Sometimes you gotta go chalk. I
have the.

Speaker 2 (58:37):
Odds in front of me. If you want them on DraftKings.

Speaker 1 (58:39):
Go for it. Eastern Washington the favorite you.

Speaker 2 (58:41):
Plus two hundred, Weber's plus three hundred, Montana three ten,
and then it goes to five point fifty.

Speaker 1 (58:46):
For Northern I like Montana at plus three ten.

Speaker 2 (58:50):
Hilling what are they the grizz Grizz, I'll uh, I'll
go Weber with three to one is the.

Speaker 1 (58:57):
Two seed Harold the show Arson though Damian Lillard.

Speaker 2 (59:01):
I don't think they're available, but uh still still think
they have a good chance to win the league.

Speaker 1 (59:07):
Would you want to live in Montana? You know? Every
like like everybody sort of glorifies it now, like oh Yellowstone,
and you know Yellowstone, Like would you want to would
you want to live there?

Speaker 2 (59:18):
Not now? But like I if I'm old, I could
see myself just disappearing there at a certain age, but
I like I'm too busy.

Speaker 1 (59:25):
Like do you like to like fly fish?

Speaker 2 (59:28):
Never done it? But again maybe maybe when I'm sixty
and not trying to go full speed all the time,
I could sit in a cabin and fly fish if
if if I were that lucky to have something like that.

Speaker 1 (59:40):
I can't think of a more boring activity than fishing,
especially fly fishing, is the one where you like put
on boots and stand in the water. Right, That one's
not boring.

Speaker 3 (59:49):
You have to constantly go back and forth.

Speaker 1 (59:52):
Yeah, but why uh to?

Speaker 3 (59:54):
I guess replicate the bug that these fish eat and
jump out of the water.

Speaker 1 (59:59):
So when I catch one, then what Then you.

Speaker 3 (01:00:01):
Got yourself a fish. You can either release it or
keep it for dinner that night.

Speaker 2 (01:00:06):
That's your day.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
You do it the next day and that's like you're retired.

Speaker 3 (01:00:09):
To feed your family. Maybe you feed you get.

Speaker 1 (01:00:12):
Bored though, Like I mean, they have television, like don't
they Like, I mean they watched TV there too. I
mean I just I see people standing out in the
water and just doing that, and I I get like,
I think for an hour, I bet they do other things.

Speaker 2 (01:00:31):
It's not their entire identity and they wake up, like
like go.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
To Montana to fly, like that's the vacation that's very popular.

Speaker 2 (01:00:41):
I can't imagine doing that. Well, I'm interested in may
do this in the next few years. But I have
friends who go to Alaska and they like get dropped
off and they fish and then they.

Speaker 1 (01:00:52):
Did you about the guy who had to kill a
moose didn't you know the I Did a Ride that's
going on right now popular race. I don't think that's
on television. Feels like it should be. But I guess
a guy was racing in the idea a rod and
like a moose got in the way and it like
wouldn't stop and it started like eating his dog. Oh,

(01:01:14):
you're looking at me like I'm making this up this,
I'm shocked. The moose was like eating his dog, and
he was like, you got to stop eating my dog.
The moose the moose would not listen to reason, and
so he killed him. And under this is what I
found interesting about it, Under I Did a Ride rules.
They have what you have to do. If you kill
a moose on the race, you have to like skin him.

Speaker 2 (01:01:38):
This is like this is in the rules the flavor one.

Speaker 1 (01:01:42):
Yeah, you have to like do all this stuff. You
can't just like leave the moose out there. You gotta
skin him and then you gotta bring him with you
to the next stop. And I guess just give him
to the organizers. Here's the moose I killed. And so
the dude that's like the best did a ride dog guy,
he's behind in the race because he had to kill

(01:02:02):
a moose and give it to the organizers.

Speaker 2 (01:02:06):
It's crazy. So in some ways you could not be
that fast in the race. But if you're really fast
at killing to get in and delivering a moose.

Speaker 1 (01:02:14):
Well, I hope you don't run into a moose, but
if you did, it's like the pit crew NASCAR just
as important as the guy.

Speaker 3 (01:02:21):
Driving five minute major For killing a moose on this race.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
Well, he said, I had to kill it like it
wouldn't It's it got in the way. Interesting and I
don't know if there's a controversy about it or what,
but he he killed a moose here. I want to
pull up the story because I feel like you guys
are are not five times I did a rode Champion
Dallas Cevie kills and guts a moose that got entangled

(01:02:49):
with his dog team. Dallas Cevie informed the officials that
he was forced to shoot the moose with a handgun.
The moose came after my dog, he said in a statement.
It fell on my sled and was sprawled all over
the trail. I gutted it the best I could, but
it got a little ugly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:08):
What a sport.

Speaker 1 (01:03:12):
See how this cevia turned thirty seven is the first
musher to kill a moose since nineteen eighty five. In
nineteen eighty five to late Susan Butcher was leading the
race when she used her axe and a parka to
fend off a moose. It killed two of her dogs
and injured the other thirteen. She was able to chop
its head off with the axe. Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:03:34):
Is her name Susan Butcher or they call her Susan
the Butcher? Did she earn the nickname from this act?

Speaker 1 (01:03:42):
Butcher had to quit the race that year, but went
on to win four I did a rods in the future.
I think you're gonna see it didn't hold her back.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
I think the Tour de Front should add this, like
whatever's in your way, you kill it, keep moving on.

Speaker 1 (01:03:54):
Ceev arrived in Finger Lake after killing the moose, where
he dropped off his dog that was injured. The dog
was flown anchorage where it was being evaluated by the veterinarian.
The moose was left in Fingerleg Poor Moose Race oral state.
If a big game animal like a moose, caribou, or
buffalo is killed, the musher must gut the animal and
then take it to officials at the next checkpoint.

Speaker 2 (01:04:16):
This is fascinating stuff. DraftKings should have identicical odds with
props of like how many moo moose will be killed
on the on the trail I'd go I'd.

Speaker 1 (01:04:27):
Take that over a half of nine eighty five. Great
odds if you did have it this year, though, you
gotta be excited about this news.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, and especially if Susan the butcher's out there but
not her.

Speaker 3 (01:04:45):
Sounds like a wives tale or something you tell your
kid's ghost story.

Speaker 1 (01:04:48):
Yes, I don't know how we got to that.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
I enjoyed it.

Speaker 1 (01:04:53):
It was the sky. I don't want to do that,
all right?

Speaker 3 (01:04:57):
Patriotly the Patriot League, which will be on campus sites
this year.

Speaker 1 (01:05:00):
Well, where's the number one seed?

Speaker 3 (01:05:02):
Colgate is number one, Number two is Boston University, three
is Lafayette, and number four is American.

Speaker 1 (01:05:11):
It's Lafayette, Louisiana. It's Lafayette. But Colgate. What was the
name of the kid? Many years ago? Colgate had a
Donald Foyle? You remember that? Do you know the story
billing He was like the top five of player in America.
His parents were professors at Colgate. They had adopted him,

(01:05:33):
I think, and they were professors at Colgate, and so
even though he was recruited by Duke in North Carolina,
he went to Colgate and played a number of years
and then played in the NBA for a number of
years from Colgate.

Speaker 2 (01:05:46):
Colgate is the heavy betting favorite here, according to our
friends at DraftKings at minus two point fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:05:52):
Well that's some of that. Yeah, that's big odds.

Speaker 2 (01:05:55):
Yeah, that might be the biggest favorite of the conference
tournaments they have listed.

Speaker 1 (01:05:59):
Looks like it is.

Speaker 3 (01:06:00):
Sounds like the blind Side College basketball edition.

Speaker 1 (01:06:02):
Yeah. Yeah, but this dude was like, this dude's not
going to end up suing his parents or whatever life
like that guy did. Yeah, So do you have any
he's also really smart, dude. That was another thing, is
like he was he got he was really really smart
and went to Colgate and did really well.

Speaker 2 (01:06:19):
Do you have anyone upsetting this heavy, heavy, heavy favorite.

Speaker 1 (01:06:22):
No, I'm taking Colgate.

Speaker 2 (01:06:23):
The two seed is six to one to win the tournament.

Speaker 1 (01:06:25):
I have multiple times bet against Army West Point in
games this year. They're in this tournament, but they have
no chance of beating Cogate.

Speaker 2 (01:06:34):
One hundred and fifty to one. If you want some
of Army West Point.

Speaker 1 (01:06:37):
I don't. I'll take Colgate. You taking Cogate?

Speaker 2 (01:06:41):
Yeah, I can't gogainst minus two fifty.

Speaker 1 (01:06:43):
All right, we have two more.

Speaker 3 (01:06:45):
What's next the American East, which will again be on
campus sites. Then one seed is Vermont MM with U
Mass at second, Brian at third, and New Hampshire MASS
the U Mass.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
Loll oh U Mass loll. Yes, I've bet them, Yes,
Bryant and New Hampshire. And we hit a fourteen team
parlay a couple of weeks ago, and Vermont was the
final leg we talked about on the post game show.
So I gotta go for Vermont. I mean, when you
hit a fourteen teamer thanks to Vermont, it was money line.

(01:07:18):
But still give me the catamounts.

Speaker 2 (01:07:20):
I don't see tournament odds for this one yet, but
I like Vermont. They've only lost one game this calendar year.
Like I said, already made us money. Why would I
bet against him?

Speaker 1 (01:07:31):
Here? Yeah, we talked a lot about Vermont that day.
Bernie Sanders is one of the senators. Is it you
true that does at Bernie Sanders impersonation one of our crew?

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
Does it only when I'm at the Biltmore? Because I've
never never done one and it's not me.

Speaker 1 (01:07:50):
Well, let's see. I doubt it's Ryan. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:07:53):
I can see it being Ryan.

Speaker 1 (01:07:54):
You think Ryan does a Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:07:56):
No, wait, it is Shannon. What does he say? Shannon
does one? I've heard him do it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:00):
It is it Shannon.

Speaker 2 (01:08:00):
It is Shannon.

Speaker 1 (01:08:02):
I think he does Bernie Sanders.

Speaker 2 (01:08:05):
We'll have to ask him tomorrow when he gets back.
I think I only think with Bernie Sanders. When we
were at the convention and there was the woman yelling yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:08:14):
The woman yelled something like you stole your soul for
a cup of porridge or something.

Speaker 2 (01:08:18):
Then didn't they have a fart out in protest on
the sidewalk. I'm not kidding. They just tried to walk
around and fart. I'm not making that up. Look it up,
Bernie Sanders fart out.

Speaker 1 (01:08:30):
No. First of all, I want you to google just
I want to google on the iHeart computers. It's a
first result. I did it.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
I rolled the dice there. It is NBC.

Speaker 1 (01:08:44):
News Bernie Sanders fart out.

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
Yeah, they planned it in protest of the Clinton nomination.
They did a fart out on the sidewalk outside. I
remember we walked by it.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
They were doing a horrible job. Well I didn't. I
did not remember the fun.

Speaker 2 (01:09:01):
So there's my breakdown of Bernie Sanders. Why don't we
get onto him?

Speaker 1 (01:09:04):
I know, but I did not.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
Vermont?

Speaker 1 (01:09:07):
Yes, uh, well, let's go go cat them outs? All right?
Who's next?

Speaker 3 (01:09:13):
I think our final conference tournament. It's the Mid Eastern
Athletic Conference in Norfolk, Virginia, where Norfolk State is the
one seed, Howard two, South Carolina State three, and North
Carolina Central number four.

Speaker 1 (01:09:30):
Did you say Howard was the two? Correct? I'm going
with Howard because of the guy I sing about it earlier, Jwhard.
I'm gonna go ahead, and I think they're good. And
that's all I know about the MIAC. I do remember
that they had a player called the Shack of the
Meac or she Ac of the Meac. That was a
long time ago, and I don't remember who he was.

(01:09:51):
This is one of the games I always miss, Like
you know, I try to watch these games for some reason.
I don't know that I've ever seen a MEAC game.
So I'm gonna take Howard.

Speaker 2 (01:09:59):
Me makes me think of Ernest scared stupid. Did you
ever see that? It's a great movie it's one of
my favorites.

Speaker 1 (01:10:06):
I saw Ernest goes to Jail. I saw Ernest goes
to Camp. I saw Ernest Saves Christmas. I don't think
I saw Ernest scared stupid.

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
It was given. There was like a troll and there
was a four letter word they'd solve and it was
m I blank k. They thought the answer was meek.
But spoiler, it was milk the whole time, but they
thought it was meek.

Speaker 1 (01:10:27):
Do you think people like, do you know what Ernest
movies are? I do not know. How old are you? Like?
You're so young? You really you don't know what Ernest
movies are. I turned twenty nine in two months.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
You need to learn, Ernest. I heard you just recently
finished a purpose driven life.

Speaker 1 (01:10:43):
I did.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Now we move on to all the earnest movies. To
start with Ernest goes to Camp.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
Let me rest you the arnest movies, it is Ernest
goes to Camp, by far the best, the first one.
Ernest Saves Christmas, Ernest goes to Jail, Earnest scared stupid.
Then I think they stopped getting released in movie theaters
and they went straight to video. Ernest rides again. Ernest
goes to school, slammed dunk Ernest.

Speaker 2 (01:11:11):
They tried to do the basketball theme there, it wasn't great.

Speaker 1 (01:11:14):
Ernest goes to Africa, which I haven't seen but I'm
sure is racist. There's no way.

Speaker 2 (01:11:20):
I didn't see that one either.

Speaker 1 (01:11:21):
I didn't see it, but like, I feel like that's
probably not appropriate. And then Ernest in the Army.

Speaker 2 (01:11:30):
Vaguely remember that one I certainly owned on VHS. Ernest
goes to Camp and outside of Forrest Gump, there's probably
not a movie I've seen more.

Speaker 1 (01:11:38):
It was a script written for Ernest and the Voodoo Curse,
but it was never made into production.

Speaker 2 (01:11:45):
That they should have stopped with the four Camp Christmas
scared stupid.

Speaker 1 (01:11:50):
And they did really milk that cash cow. Well he started.
The whole Earnest thing started as a commercial in Kentucky's right.

Speaker 2 (01:11:58):
He's from Lexing.

Speaker 1 (01:11:58):
He's from Lexington, so it started like as a commercial. U.
Let me see, I'm looking at his He does have
quite a Wikipedia. It started as a commercial but I
don't know, and then became Ernest has been paroded parodied
in many TV shows, including Beavis and butt Head family

(01:12:19):
Guy in the Simpsons. There are also furt fake Ernest
films that have been made on the lodcasts, including Ernest
Needs a Kidney, Ernest versus the Pope.

Speaker 2 (01:12:31):
At these are sound terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:12:33):
He gets around and Ernest went to a beach. They
just decided not to say it goes. It's copyright.

Speaker 2 (01:12:45):
Present tense, is Jimvardi past tense with the copycat.

Speaker 1 (01:12:48):
I think you tell your parents You're like, Mom, I'm
directing a movie. It's a parody of Ernest. You think
your parents would be happy.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
That mine would because my mom bought me Ernest goes
to camp and knows how much I loved it. She'd
know that I achieved my dreams back continuing the franchise.

Speaker 1 (01:13:09):
So I take Howard.

Speaker 2 (01:13:13):
Because of Ernest. Uh, I'll do a little Delaware State.
You they weren't in the top.

Speaker 3 (01:13:23):
Four now the five seed. They were six and seven
in the conference.

Speaker 1 (01:13:28):
But let's go about state. About did you even know
that there was a Delaware state until you looked at
that computer.

Speaker 2 (01:13:38):
I knew there was a Delaware State.

Speaker 1 (01:13:40):
What do you know there was a college that was
not because the Delaware produced Joe Flacco. Yeah, I mean,
but Delaware State is their sister institution.

Speaker 2 (01:13:49):
I'm aware I would not have brought them up in
this discussion. I knew that it existed, but now I
know they're going to win the conference.

Speaker 1 (01:13:56):
That's right. Okay, Well they're hot. They've US three or
four school that Joe Biden doesn't even claim. Delaware State
you're gonna take.

Speaker 2 (01:14:05):
Well, they've lost seven seven of ten. Let's walk that back. Okay, Jilly,
did you use a pencil?

Speaker 1 (01:14:12):
I did not, but we can cross that out. That's fine.

Speaker 2 (01:14:14):
I'm gonna go South Carolina State.

Speaker 1 (01:14:19):
Okay, there you go. So that that is the first
round of your conference tournaments. We will save. I mean,
I know those were a lot of the ones you
were waiting for. The bigger conferences will come next week.
We'll probably use some.

Speaker 2 (01:14:31):
Player names, maybe some some stats scheme here or there.

Speaker 1 (01:14:37):
Let me ask you a question. We did sixteen tournament
besides Robbie of Ela. Is there a player name you
know from any of the teams we discussed.

Speaker 2 (01:14:49):
Oh yeah, not many. Okay, we'll go count me down.

Speaker 1 (01:14:59):
Northern can Okay, Marcus Work, Marquis Work, work, he's there,
he's there. Give me your starting five for the first
sixteen tournaments. You got Marcus Work, Robbie Avila and who.

Speaker 2 (01:15:17):
Yeah, I mean some guys who just played tougher schedules.
It's hard to really put one over the other. You've
had some good head to head match out. You've had
guys Nolan Hickman from That's true. If you throw in Gonzaga,
I could get more.

Speaker 1 (01:15:30):
Okay, well to go there.

Speaker 2 (01:15:32):
They're a big guy. What was his name?

Speaker 1 (01:15:33):
He pronounced first and last.

Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Namek It looks like, Uh, I don't have the first
name Graham.

Speaker 1 (01:15:45):
Graham, no clue. I do have a Delaware state fact
for you. Go for it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:52):
Notable alumni Grammy Award winning R and B singer Sizza.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
Siza. Yeah. Think I've seen? Oh you have no? Is
that somebody I should know? Yes, I would say, oh
like s z a, Yes, okay, I have seen that.
I didn't realize what what what is? Is it a
he or she? It's a she? Okay, I didn't know.
Do you know a Scissa song? Uh?

Speaker 2 (01:16:16):
Sizza is one of the people when I was watching
the Grammys, I was like, she's everywhere and I don't
really know a whole lot. So No, to answer your question.

Speaker 1 (01:16:24):
She did good for her? Well good, well, all the
more reason for you to pick them.

Speaker 2 (01:16:28):
I think Gonzaga would get me to five.

Speaker 1 (01:16:30):
The others.

Speaker 2 (01:16:31):
Uh works about all ahead?

Speaker 1 (01:16:33):
Can I tell you one thing before we go? When
we're done with this, Billy and I have to cut
a spot, like a video commercial for Hero Sports drink
clear Cut Hero, clear Cut Hero, clear Cut Hero. This
is gonna be the second time that we've done this commercial.
First time, I felt like we knocked it out of

(01:16:56):
the park. Like when we did it, I I thought
I included Billy in it, gave him some run. For
people who don't know, Clearcut Hero is available on Amazon
for those of you around the country. It's very good. Actually,
I'm not just not even a I genuinely like it.
And it's available in grocery stores here in Kentucky. Clear
Cut Hero. Try it. They didn't like our commerce, and

(01:17:20):
they didn't like it for two reasons. One, oh, they
were like, oh, you said the name wrong of the drink.

Speaker 2 (01:17:27):
I mean, okay, I'll hear him out on that one.
It Like it's fair guest, if you're like doing a
Toyota commercial Landa, you know, it might be like.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
Can we redo that trademark issue?

Speaker 1 (01:17:39):
Oh? So that is that what it is? Yeah? So
they don't have Hero Sports drink, so there is a
hero Sports drink. I don't know that. I just know
that we have to say the name. We have to
say Clearcut Hero. Yeah, okay, so that was the first problem.
Name's not too much to ask, I don't think. Fine.

(01:18:00):
There are six flavors, and I like them all. But
five of the six bottles are cool looking, and one
of them is the worst color I've ever seen, the
Peach flavor. And you can look this up on line.
The Peach flavor Nexus Nexus looks like I don't even

(01:18:25):
want to say what it looks like. It's just the
worst color of light brown you can think of. And
in the ad, well, okay, so the flavor is peach.
My view is you should if the goal is to
make the bottle the color of the flavor, Peach should

(01:18:45):
not be like grab brown.

Speaker 2 (01:18:49):
A lot more orange in peach, Yes.

Speaker 1 (01:18:52):
But it's not so. As I was doing the ad,
I had Billy read the flavors and I would say
something nice about him, so he'd be like, you know,
name of Flavorid's next Dragon Dragon, and I'd go, oh,
Dragon's great, gives you. And then we did it for
all of them when we got to the peach one
nexus he said nexus, and I was like, don't use
the color against him. This taste amazing despite the color

(01:19:20):
of the bot. So you're trying to give it a calm.

Speaker 2 (01:19:24):
It's a little backhanded, but I thought it makes it
more real.

Speaker 1 (01:19:27):
Don't you think, like if you acknowledge the weakness rather
than just saying everything's awesome, be like, I get it,
this is a bad color, not very appetizing, but I
promise you it tastes better. I would argue it would make
people more likely to buy it.

Speaker 2 (01:19:42):
Billy, they'd be curious.

Speaker 3 (01:19:44):
I'm you're not wrong. I'm just not the one paying
the money for the ad.

Speaker 1 (01:19:49):
So what they said is get our name right and
don't say it's ugly reasonable or unreasonable. Okay, Number one,
I think I think the name it's pretty big. That's
when you want to you want to check off, make
sure you got right. Comparing it to I think I

(01:20:09):
think i'd hear about I think I think they're in
the right. Both complaints are reasonable.

Speaker 2 (01:20:13):
On the second where you were going, maybe a little
different delivery.

Speaker 1 (01:20:18):
Okay, So now we got to do this again.

Speaker 3 (01:20:21):
Are you gonna read from the script verbatim this time,
or are you going to go?

Speaker 1 (01:20:23):
I can't. How do they expect me to do this
and read from a sheet of paper? Well like anchorman
ron Burgundi, but he has a teleprompter. I don't have
a telep I can hold it right next to the phone.
That's what read. Shepherd can't be in it. I want
you to have to be in it because I don't
want to talk about all this. Oh well, look at you.
I'm not getting paid. They're not paying for me. Look

(01:20:46):
at depover here. All right, well, thank you. We will
be back next week for the second half of the
conference tournament previ I'm.

Speaker 2 (01:20:53):
Gonna go home and watch the earnest so you

Speaker 1 (01:20:55):
Late that I thought i'd extant do to such sud