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November 15, 2025 45 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to Faith in the Zone on Fox Sports nine
twenty and your iHeartRadio app. I am Mike McGivern flying
solo this week. Pastor Ken Keltner from Brookside Baptist Church
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people at Brookside Baptist Church and Creative Construction Wisconsin and
the other sponsors that we have that continue to allow
us to put this show on the air. So a
couple of weeks ago, wait a chance to talk to
Brady Ewing and I interview hearing for Faith in the
Zone and he did a great job. And at the
end I asked him, is there anybody else that would

(01:02):
be a good fit for a show like this, and
he goes absolutely. There's a guy here named Paul Annare
and he is a big time athlete. He uh track
and field up at Wisconsin, grew up in Richland Center.
And I did a little research looking at this guy's numbers.
I'll tell you this, I talk a lot of smack

(01:22):
on Faith in his own I could not jump this
guy at any time in my life. We're now joined
by Paul an Are. Hey by Paul pronuncial last name.
For me, it's a year. I'm sorry about that. You
were real close, though I was close. I'm horrible with
last names. We were joined by Paul Aneer, a badger

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athlete red shirted in twenty nine and put us a
big numbers twenty ten through twenty thirteen as a jumper
five ten, white kid from Richland Center. That's not exactly
what I thought I was going to find when I
found out he was in track and field. And I'm
telling you the numbers and the things that he accomplished

(02:03):
as a student athlete up at Wisconsin pretty impressive. Hey, Paul,
it's really good to meet you, and thank you so
much for a few minutes for Faith in the zone.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Absolutely, Mike, It's an honor to be on here and
I appreciate you giving me the time to share some
things today. Looking forward to it.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
Hey, before we get into your background, is there a
nicer guy than Brady Ewing?

Speaker 2 (02:27):
Quick answer is no, good guy. Man, He's just such
a great, great human being and just such a great
close friend of mine. We went to preschool together. So, man,
I've known Brady for just forever and such a great guy,
great family, and just to this day. I mean we
text on a weekly basis and keep in touch with

(02:49):
each other really closely, and man, it's just I've shared
so many moments with him, and the friendship we have
right now, I just I really value that and just
to see his young family grow and flourish is really something.
He's just such a great guy.

Speaker 1 (03:05):
Well, you were a three year letter winner in football.
What was it like having him in the huddle with you?
And how much did he get his hands on the
ball when he was in high school? Because if I was,
if I was the coach, I'd probably feed him the
ball about thirty times a game.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
Yeah, they did too, they did. I Mean it was
incredible sharing a field with him. I mean, you know,
we were in high school, so we didn't really know
what a pro athlete looked like, or a future pro athlete,
I should say. But like, I mean, the way Brady
moved and cut and where he could where he could
put his foot in the ground and change directions, all
that stuff was just elite, you know, And I knew

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there was a future for him coming out of high school.
I mean, he was only like a one star recruit
and as you found out, I mean, hardly had any
scholarship offers. I mean, if he went to a big
Blockie school or Madison school, he would have been four,
you know, three or four star recruits. He really had
multiple off or so It's just unfortunately for him, it
was kind of just the environment he played in and

(04:04):
a smaller D four school that just didn't allow him
to get those to get those scholarships. But yeah, I
mean his tape spoke for itself. I'll never forget. He
was an all star linebacker too, besides being a great
running back. And there was a tackle he made against
the team River Valley, one of our rivals, and I've
never seen a harder hit in my life. And some

(04:28):
of the noise the noises and just like the grunts
that came out of that running back that he tackled.
I'll never forget it to this day. He's just he was.
He was such an elite linebacker besides being you know,
the great running back that he was. So it was
a special thing to be able to share a field.

Speaker 1 (04:44):
Hey, Paul, what position did you play in football?

Speaker 2 (04:48):
I was a wide receiver and then typically safety man.

Speaker 1 (04:51):
That's awesome. I've got a grand son that that plays
a little football at Lake Country Lutheran and it's really
fun to to he's a freshman, but he's getting a
little bit of time on varsity. To be able to
see him play is really fun. Hey, when you made
the decision and looking at your numbers in high school,
two time Nike All American, four time was guys in

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Division two, state champion in the high jump, I mean
I could go on and on, Gatorade Athlete of the
Year in track and field as a junior and a senior.
When it was time for you to make the decision
on where you were going to go for college, was
that an easy choice for you?

Speaker 2 (05:29):
It was pretty tough. I mean I was leased to
have a lot of offers from a lot of different schools,
or the chance to at least get an offer. You know,
they send you their recruiting letters and then you can
kind of dig in with whether you're interested or not.
And I had a chance to pretty much go anywhere.
So that would have been two thousand and seven, two
thousand and eight, when I had a lot of off

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those letters and offers kind of rolling in. But it
was a tough decision because I took my official visits
to UW Madison, University of Minnesota, University of Texas, and
then uh Nebraska as well, and so I had a
lot of different coaches in my year, a lot of
different letters rolling in, and there were some really great

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programs that were spread out through basically throughout the whole nation.
But as timing would have it, in two thousand and seven,
the UW Badger's track and field team actually won the
national indoor track meet. So, you know, having the national
champs right in my backyard, just sixty miles down the road,

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that kind of just solidified it for me. And to
be able to be relatively you know, close to home
and join a great team that was you know, kind
of the end the end of the decision making process
right there.

Speaker 1 (06:44):
Hey, Paul, the the idea of right shirting your freshman year,
was that something you knew going in that that that
was a possibility, or is that something that you chose
to do.

Speaker 2 (06:56):
That was totally unexpected. I expected to come right in
and contribute right away in the Big Ten Meets and
some of those other big track meets. But unfortunately, the
fall of two thousand and eight, so my true freshman year,
we had some it's kind of what we call warm
up track meets, where it's essentially a track meet, but
it's just within the team. And I had an ankle

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injury in early December, and I tore some small superficial
ligaments in my inside of my takeoff leg, and so
we had to kind of figure out that stuff and
navigate that and figure out treatment and all. And the
season was coming up pretty quick in early January, and
so we decided to go ahead and read shirt my

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indoor season and basically just rehab and keep training. It
was an ankle injury that didn't really affect my training
and running and all that. It's just when I went
to go turn and take off on it, it would
really stress that ankle and those small ligaments. So red
shirting the first the entire first year was kind of tricky,

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totally kind of up ended my plans as a true
freshman wanting to come in and contribute right away. So
that was definitely something that kind of threw me for
a loo my freshman year.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Yeah, and that's got to be a very difficult place
for an eighteen year old kid moving away from home
the first time, right and and and get into the door,
making sure you get your grades taken care of, and
thinking like in your mind, hey, I'm going to compete
with my team. And now for that year, you've got

(08:29):
to train and you've got to do a lot of
the same stuff these guys are doing, but you don't
get to put the uniform on when there was a
meat coming. And that had to be very difficult for
a kid, I think in your brain and certainly to
be able to practice hard and know that you're going
to be there next year, But how hard was that

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for you as an eighteen year old?

Speaker 2 (08:53):
It was really tricky. I mean, track and field is
unique in the fact that you can still red shirt
and you can do what's called competing unattached where you're
not attached to a team. So I was able to
compete unattached in a few track meets throughout my freshman year,
but not many because I was still kind of nursing
that injury. But it was extremely difficult. I mean I

(09:14):
had high hopes of coming in right away and contributing
and just kind of being all over the all of
the map jumping for them, and to not be able
to do that officially as a Badger was uh yeah,
a little bit of a mind game. And just you know,
I knew that the brightest days were ahead of me,
but uh yeah, it wasn't the way I definitely wanted

(09:36):
to start my career.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
I'll say that, Hey, Paul Richland Centator is not a
hotbed for for big time track and field athletes cross country,
I don't believe. And and so I'm wondering, Yeah, I'm wondering, like,
how did this come about? What was it the natural
ability where you all was a good jumper growing up?

(09:57):
And it was it something that that that that some
coach candy and said, hey man, we need to harness
this thing.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Yeah, I mean from an early age, I knew I
kind of had some athletic ability I mean, you know,
as a kindergartener, first grade, second grader, you're not You're
just out playing, you know, at recess and stuff. But
I think as I got into like third, fourth, fifth grade,
you kind of realize like, oh, I kind of got
some talent. But I was, I guess I'm just obsessed
with basketball as a kid, and I was. I always
thought dunking was really cool, of course, right a little kid,

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and so that was always my goal to like, oh,
I want to dunk someday, you know. And so I
was just obsessed with jumping. I just I'd run through
my parents' house and touched the doorways and all that stuff,
you know, and just I was just I probably had
ants in my pants and could never sit still, you know,
so that probably contributed a little bit. But I just
always loved jumping. And then I was able to, you know,

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turn some of the basketball skills into figuring out how
to high jump, and then it kind of took off
from there. I got the technique down, and I guess
the rest was kind of history.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
Hey, what was your favorite? Was it the high jump,
the long jump, or the triple jump? And you put
up great numbers in all three and I follow up
question to that, did you like indoor more than outdoor?
Did you like outdoor more than indoor? So let's start
with what was your favorite CAD? Was it the high jump,
the long jump, or the triple jump for you?

Speaker 2 (11:22):
You know, I really enjoyed high jump and triple jump
the most that I'd say. I mean, if I had
to pick one, I'd say high jump just because you know,
it was probably my best my best category in track
and field. But I really enjoyed high jump. Yeah, and
then indoors. Actually, surprisingly surprisingly or not, I think I

(11:43):
enjoyed indoors a little bit more just because there's no
you take away all the weather, right the wind wind
in track and field is probably worse than just about
anything for any event. It's just wind just causes problems.
And so I enjoyed the atmosphere of just being indoors,
sixty five degrees controlled environment, kind of like a kicker,

(12:04):
I guess, you know, in the NFL, you just maybe
feel a little more comfortable with the way your environment's
laid out. So I really enjoyed jumping indoors.

Speaker 1 (12:13):
We're talking to Paul and Neer. He is a former
Wisconsin Badger athlete. He was on the track and field team.
He was a jumper and like we just talked about,
you know, he competed in the high jump, the long jump,
and the triple jump. Hey, Paul, let's talk a little
bit about where you're living now and a little bit
about what you're doing, and give us a background on

(12:33):
what you're doing nowadays.

Speaker 2 (12:35):
Yeah. So I live just south of Green Bay, Wisconsin
with my wife and three kids. I work at Puttiback
Trail Camera, so motion detecting trail cameras for being outdoors
in the woods. A lot of deer hunters use them.
So I worked as an account manager there in our
sales department and I've been here for about five years now.
So besides being a huge sports not much like you,

(12:57):
I'm also a deer hunter too. So that's kind of
where I'm at right now. Got three beautiful kids, age ten,
eight and six, so two boys and a girl. That's good.
Just getting them for school and you know, living day
to day like that, getting them involved in sports. It's
a lot of fun, but we're we're definitely busy.

Speaker 1 (13:18):
How do you like the Green Bay market?

Speaker 2 (13:21):
We like it a lot. Yeah, it's a great place
to raise the family. You know, I wish I was
a little bit closer to home where I grew up
so I could see a little bit more family in
terms of that, But I can't complain. It's a great
place to raise the family. Lots of good people up
here that are like minded. It's a great area.

Speaker 1 (13:38):
We like it. What is your wife's first name?

Speaker 2 (13:43):
Erica?

Speaker 1 (13:43):
Erica? How did you guys meet?

Speaker 2 (13:46):
So we met at UW Madison, actually freshman year, two
or three days before school even started. We met in
the dorms at Whitty Hall right down there at UW campus.
So me and Brady room together freshman year year, obviously
with him doing football and doing track, and figured it
would just work good with two athletes being together, and
plus we were just great friends. So we were in

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Whitty Hall and met some people before the first couple
of days of school started. And yeah, me and Erica
met right away before freshman year started, and then we
were kind of friends. They had the same friend group
there for like a year year and a half, and
then we started dating. And yeah, with that as well,
the rest is history, and and here we are raising

(14:31):
a beautiful family and living micee Man that's awesome.

Speaker 1 (14:36):
We're gonna get to a break. Other side of the break,
we'll continue our conversation with Paul and her. He is
a former Wisconsin Badger athlete. He is through and through.
He's a cheesehead man. I grew up Rich and Center
living in Green Bay, and I'm sure he's a big
fan of the Packers and the Bucks and the Brewers.
And I think again, I think Brady Ewing for the

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introduction to Paul. The other side of the break will
ask Paul to share his testimony. This is Faith in
the Zone on Fox Sports nine twenty and your iHeart
Radio app. Welcome back to Faith in the Zone on
Fox Sports nine twenty in your iHeartRadio App. Again Mike
McGivern here flying solo. This week. Pastor Ken Keltner from

(15:19):
Brookside Baptist Church will rejoin me in studio here in
the next couple of weeks, coming from the Donovan and
Jorganson Heat and Kilian Studios. Our special guest Wisconsin Badger athlete.
He was on their track and field team, redshirted in
two thousand and nine and then twenty ten through twenty thirteen,
put up big numbers and as a high school athlete

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at Richland Center High School, two time Nike All American,
four time Wisconsin Division two state champion in the high jump,
which you never hear, I mean, four times freshman through
senior year, won the Wisconsin State high jump state championship,
Nike All American, Nike Athlete of the Year in track
and field as a junior and a senior. Well, I'll

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tell you what. That's what he did and and I've
talked to him a number of times. His who he
is is he loves talking track and field and he competed.
But boy, there's a lot to him and being a
father of three and a husband Erica is is very
important to him, and certainly his faith is as well. Hey,
I can tell you, Paul, this segment is always our favorite.

(16:26):
And if we can ask you to share your testimony with.

Speaker 2 (16:29):
Us, absolutely, yeah. I mean, I grew up in Rushlilm
Center with a great, great mom and dad and a
brother Luke. Grew up going to church, attending church every
week and involved in all the typical typical stuff of
a Christian home, vacation, Bible school, all that stuff stayed

(16:51):
strong in my faith all the way, you know, up
until this day, I would say, you know, really, when
I moved off g W Madison, I wasn't like an
a lost straight student all throughout high school, so there
was a little bit of concern with my parents there.
My mom was a teacher, my dad was actually he's
a former chief of police initialan Centers. So I grew
up in a great home and stayed on the straight

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and narrow. But there was just the sports and trying
to do academics at a very high level at UW Madison.
We knew that wouldn't be any easy task, but I
had a great support group. But really, I mean, I
would say freshman year, with that ankle injury, it really
kind of threw me for a loop. Like I said,
just wanting to come in and contribute right away to

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a winning organization and put up some big numbers and
then to be kind of derailed with that nagging ankle injury.
I started to kind of just get into a little
bit of like a whole of like, hey, where am
I at right now? What's going on? And you know,
I don't have any sort of one moment that I

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guess tested my faith. It was more of just like
this down into the last to kind of trickle effect
of having that ankle injury to deal with, where I
just kind of went backwards a little bit of it,
maybe more of just in my mind. You know, I
still stay strong in my faith, but having uh, you know,
my girlfriend at the time wife now Erica at my

(18:17):
side and all that she was super encouraging and just
feel to keep me afloat was super important. And then,
you know, I think one thing throughout college when I
had that injury. You know, I don't know if this
was you know, God kind of talking to me through this,
but and using my sport as a way to you know,
learn a future lesson. But I never really let myself

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like cheat myself. I guess, you know, every rep and
every every list and every time you know, going to
church or whatever it was. I was always wanting to
give it my all and try to get the most
out of everything I was doing. And I kind of
made a little promise to myself almost throughout college to
just never never cheat myself in any way. So I

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stuck true to that. And I feel like now, you know,
being thirty six and a married man with three kids,
I feel like that kind of rings true today too.
I try to just just do the best I can
and everything that I'm able to and in every endeavor
I'm involved. And I guess you could say too. And
so that was kind of you know, the main the

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big thing I took away from that injury and track
is that it contributed to future thoughts and how I
live my life and how I go about it and
try to stand out as a Christian and just do
things a little bit different so that people can be like,
you know, there's something different about that guy, but in
a good way. I feel like that's a true indicator
of you know, being a Christian man and trying to

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you know, fellowship with other people to let them know
your beliefs and that you're open to what they have
to say, but also you believe at certain things. So
that ankle injury, you know, being such a small thing
maybe on the surface, but to me it was, you know,
it was a big deal. That taught me a lot
of life lessons.

Speaker 1 (20:05):
And then to that we were talking to Paul and
there again former badger athlete, he was on the track
and field team. He was a jumper, uh there, and
and I love that you said, Look my girlfriend at
that time and now my wife kind of held me
a little bit accountable when you when you leave, you
know that that very comfortable nest of Richland Center, when

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you're with your mom and dad and your brother Luke,
and you're in church when church doors are open, and
then you go out on your own. You know that
that is a very difficult time for for kids, especially
on a campus like like Madison. Right there, there's a
lot of temptation on to be able to look nobody's
nobody's checking me if I'm if I'm at a local

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church or not, nobody's checking me right now, if I'm
getting my homework done, or if I'm reading the Bible.
And I love the fact that you had, you know,
a girlfriend and a friend at that point. That that that,
you know, kind of kept you going, Okay, we need
to we need to just settle down a little bit.
Let's make sure we're doing things the right way. Did
you get involved with FCA and some of the other

(21:09):
things that were available to Christian athletes on campus up
at Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (21:14):
I did, yep, yep. I was involved in that, not
as regular as I probably should have been, with like
traveling and practices and stuff like that, but in with academics.
Of course, yes, I was involved in some of those
on campus ministries and even the campus Crusade, which you know,
the non just the normal Christian ministry on campus. There

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went to that as well throughout college, so we definitely
did get involved in that stuff.

Speaker 1 (21:39):
You know, I'm a great I tell you a lot.
I'm sorry, Paul, I tell kids and I coached basketball
a long time. I am now retired from that part
of my life, but for years I would tell kids
that were going off to play well at whatever level
it was and wherever it was in the country, to
make sure that when they get on campus that these

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you know, you look up fellowship with Christian athletes and
campus Crusade and and all of these type of you know,
groups of people that you can now you know, become
friends with on campus because I think and I used
to ask this question a lot from from people on
faith in the zone. Was it easier to walk worthy
inside the locker room or outside of the locker room?

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And a number of people would say, listen, in the beginning,
it was easier outside of the locker room because I
didn't want to be known as a Bible thumper. But
once you you surround yourself with with like minded athletes
on campus, I think it becomes a little bit easier
to be to to walk worthy, whether you're in the

(22:43):
locker room or outside of the locker room.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
One hundred percent. I mean the old adage of like
you are who you become who you surround yourself with, right,
I mean, like, that's, uh, that's just so true, especially
at that age where you know your brains aren't fully
developed and you're just you think you got to figuregured
out and you don't, and you don't even know you
don't have it figured out. But just to be able
to surround yourself with such great people like me and

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Brady made it a point to you know, meet good
people and shround ourselves with those that we want to
become like. And you know, we both came from great families,
so we kind of already had that, like I guess,
that foresight of what we wanted to look like and
be like throughout the rest of our lives. And we
did a Hew Madison was going to shape a lot

(23:27):
of that. But yeah, I mean it's it's critically important
for these young people to I guess, first of all,
you got to be comfortable with who you are, right,
and you've got to be comfortable walking in your face,
not afraid to show that. But it's really tough that
you tow Madison and even just college campuses in general
these days. I mean we went that. I graduated in

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twenty thirteen, so I mean a lot has changed since then,
So I can't imagine how difficult it is now with
the age of just all the social media and comparison
lifestyles and all that stuff that just can really suck
you in if you're not careful. We didn't really have
a whole lot of that back then. So I'm getting old.

Speaker 1 (24:06):
But well, hey, yeah you're not. You're You're still a young,
young pup to a boy like me, a grandfather of six. Hey,
what's your mom and dad's names?

Speaker 2 (24:16):
John and Kim?

Speaker 1 (24:17):
You know, I want to thank them. I want to
thank them because not a lot when when we record
faith in the zone, do we hear your story? Right? Look,
Mom and dad a close knit family, uh in church
all the time, that kind of of of thing. And
I thank John and Kim for for raising you and

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your brother as as you know, kids that understood the
importance of your faith and your faith, your family, and
and Richland centered sports was probably the three most important
things in your life growing up and and and probably
not sure if that's in that order all the time,
because as as you know, kids that are in grade school,

(25:01):
high school and their athletes there, you know, they always think, look,
I don't want to go to church Sunday because I
got a chance to playing in the AAU basketball tournament.
And it's interesting to have your mom and dad, you know,
make it, make it sure that that that you understood
the importance of being in the church and and being
in the Bible and what it looks like to lead

(25:23):
a Christian life. And I thank them for that.

Speaker 2 (25:27):
Absolutely. I mean they they were such a great example
to me growing up. I mean just people of faith
just in the community, involved all the time, super involved
with their church to this day, you know, they just
they volunteered in so many areas and in a lot
of ways helped to carry our the local church that
I grew up in. It still kind of helped carry

(25:49):
it to this day with organizing events and and things
like that. You know, Devout Tithers to their church and
you know, all those things that they were called to do.
They're They're just they walk in that so well, you know,
get up and drink the coffee and read their Bible
and do that every morning, which I need to get
better at I drink my coffee, but yeah, yes, that's

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that time and dedicated on a more consistent basis. But man,
I mean there's just two people that I look towards
for leadership and guidance. And you know, sometimes you know,
you don't need words, you just need that example. And
they're that physical, walking example of what what we need
to be as Christ followers. So I just I look

(26:37):
up to them so much still to this day.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
Boy, I thank you for saying that, because I again,
I think it's so important that when when when when they,
you know, understand the importance of having their kids be involved.
I I was. I went to a Catholic grade school
and Catholic high school, and I got this line from
somebody early on in faith in the zone and he's said, look,

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and he was about my age, and we in the schools.
I went to the hand of the Bible and said, Carrie,
we'll tell you what's in it. Don't worry about reading it.
We'll tell you what's in it. And so I knew
everything that I knew at that point about Jesus Christ,
the same way I knew about Abraham Lincoln. Right. I
knew all the stories, but I had no relationship with him.

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And that was hard, man. I you know, there's my
testimony is a lot different than yours, Paul. And what
I learned through the journey that I went on is
I didn't need to clean myself up and then present
myself to him to say, well, you accept me and
my family. He met me in a really dark place

(27:42):
and I thank him every day for that because I
was not going down a great path and for him
to accept me into his family and being the mess
that I was at that point, I certainly thank him.
Hey would your mom and dad come to all your
football game, gas and basketball in your track meets?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah? They hardly missed a thing, so they were there
for it all. My mom being a teacher, you know,
with a schedule that was somewhat easier to navigate than
you know, just a normal nine to five. But my dad,
he actually started day shift the day that I started kindergarten,
so that kind of worked out as well to where
being the age that I was when I started kindergarten,

(28:27):
he was kind of moving into a few more positions
that opened up for a better daily schedule to have kids.
And then he served as chief of police for thirteen
or fourteen years, I believe, which is of course more
of a nine to five type of position. But of
course he was available at all hours of the day
and took many calls in the middle of the night.
But yeah, they didn't miss much at all, so they

(28:49):
were there for it all, willing to take me all
over the place. Travel exposed me to a lot great
competition to kind of further my track and field. So
just so much to be thankful for with with them
being my parents.

Speaker 1 (29:04):
Hey, who would you hear more? Would it? Would you
hear John or would you hear Kim more in the
in the crowd?

Speaker 2 (29:11):
Funny neither of them. They were very, very humble people.
And it's not like they're quiet. I guess you could
say they're just a little bit more reserved when it
comes to that kind of thing. They you'd never hear
them say anything hardly. Just a couple of times my mom,
you know, like a hustle or something like that in basketball.
But for the most part, you know, maybe before a

(29:34):
big jump at state sectionals or regionals or you know,
something like that. They'd be like, all right, Paul, let's
get it. But other than that, like no, like do this,
do that? Like they were so good about just like
they knew that I knew what to do. You know.
They weren't gonna try to coach me from the stands
or anything like that. And I try to do the
same with my son and my daughter. You know, just

(29:57):
the work has already been put in at that point.
Now it's time to just shine, you know. So that's
kind of how I view a lot of that too,
and that that's the way they were. They were pretty
quiet and reserved when it came to, uh, you know,
cheering at at sporting events.

Speaker 1 (30:11):
So I coached my son, Matthew at Calvary Baptist in
high school basketball for three years, and then he went
to Marinatha Baptist Bible College in Watertown and he was
a point guard, Paul, and they handed him the ball
freshman year and said you're a point guard. And after
the first game, riding home, my wife said, we can't
sit next to each other during games, and I go

(30:33):
what she goes. I was used to sitting in the
crowd and you coaching him, you don't cheer correctly, And
I'm like what, she goes no. So for for four years, Paul,
with two minutes to go and warm up, she would
look at me and go, who's moving me or you?
And I'd be like, you're really not going to sit
next to me? She goes no. And And because I

(30:54):
coached in high school at that level in Division III basketball,
a lot of the referees are guys that I knew,
and not many of them liked me back then, Paul,
because I thought I was Bobby Knight. I guess I
don't know. And so my wife and I we were
not like John and Kim because I was a little
bit louder and I had that voice, and my son.

(31:16):
It could be a full house in the gym at
Marinatha Pack he couldn't hear his coach on the sidelines,
and I'd be sitting at the top of the bleachers
and after the game he'd say, are you ever getting
in a shot tonight? I go what, He goes, I
can hear everything you say, like from up there, and
I go, you can't hear me up there? He goes,
I'm so in tuned to your from you coaching me

(31:38):
since third grade. Everything you say up there I can hear,
so be careful what you're saying up there. It was awesome,
but Terry and I are little. Terry was more like
John and Kim, and I was not for sure. We're
gonna get to a break the other side of the break.
I've got a few questions about competing in the Big
Tent and what that was like for Paul, and we'll

(31:59):
do that on the other side of the break. Our
special guest, Paul Andeer, former Badger athlete twenty ten through
twenty thirteen, was on the track team today. He redshirted
in two thousand and nine because of an injury, but
had a really great career up at Wisconsin, both indoor
and outdoor. And we'll continue our conversation with him on
the other side of the break. This is Faith in

(32:21):
the Zone on Fox Sports nine twenty and your iHeart
Radio App. Welcome back to Faith in the Zone on
Fox Sports ninet twenty and your iHeart Radio App. Coming
from the Donovan and Jorgansen Hedi and Coolian Studios. Our
special guest for the entire hour, and what a really
nice young man. He said he's getting older. He's still
a young pup to me. Paul Andeer he is Erica's

(32:43):
husband is who he is, and the father of these
three kids, ten, eight, and six. What are the kids' names?

Speaker 2 (32:50):
Our oldest Hudson is ten, and Beckett is our middle kid.
He's eight years old. And then Sutton, our daughter is
six years old.

Speaker 1 (32:59):
I'm sorry, what is your daughter's name?

Speaker 2 (33:02):
Sutton? Sug got a unique name.

Speaker 1 (33:06):
Well, I've got a grandson, Beckett, and it's it's cool
that not too many Beckett's out there. Yeah, he's in
sixth grade and plays football, basketball, plays lacrosse, and he's
a tough kid. He's got two older brothers that have
been beaten him up a little bit, and then he
beats up his three year old brother a little bit,
callum to make him tough. Hudson, Beckett Shutton. Are they

(33:27):
sports fans?

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Sutton and Hudson seemed to be in this into sports
a little bit more than Beckett, our middle child. He's
uh man, He's such a smart little kid though. He's
got a bright future. So whether he's involved in sports
or not, he's got some got some great things going
for him. So or're excited to see what all three
of them end up doing. But uh, yeah, Hudson and
Sutton seemed to be a sports kid end up.

Speaker 1 (33:52):
Now, what is Hudson's favorite sport?

Speaker 2 (33:56):
Whatever sport he's playing at the time, I'd.

Speaker 1 (33:58):
Say, love that.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
Does he a good little wide receiver?

Speaker 1 (34:02):
Did he get us? Can he jump a little bit
like his daddy?

Speaker 2 (34:07):
Yeah? I can't quite tell what he's gonna end up.
If he's going to be more of a speedster or
a jumper. He's kind of got a little bit of
an ability to do it all. At this point. He's
he's a pretty athletic little kid. He's really good at
football as a wide receiver. He's just got a good
natural tracking ability to catch balls and got some great hands.

(34:27):
Don't use his body. He's got a lot of good
things going for him in football, it seems like. But
we'll we'll see how he progresses and how he matures.
I'm excited to watch them all grow up and see
what they all do.

Speaker 1 (34:39):
Hey, I love the fact that when you said, look,
you're a little bit like John and Kim. Hey man,
we've done the work. Now just go ahead and perform.
I wish I had some of that in me when
when I I my daughter played basketball till eighth grade,
played volleyball, And when when her eighth grade year ended,
she walked out of the locker room and I gave

(35:00):
her a hug, and I was sad because her grade
school basketball career had ended. And she goes, oh, thank God,
I never have to do that again. And I go really,
she goes, yeah, I'm not doing any of that. I'm
done playing sports and great student. And she was in
the band and all of that at Milwaukee Lutheran High

(35:20):
School where she went. And my son was a soccer player,
baseball player, basketball player, but basketball was his luck. And
his daddy was a coach, so he was in a
gym a lot, and he he did really well in
high school and in college and said it all. In fact,
he's still the all time leading assist leader at Marinatha

(35:41):
Baptist Bible College history. He was a true point guard,
and he was playing chess when other guys were playing checkers. Right,
he kind of knew two three steps ahead. If he
got in this gap and got this guy to double,
he could kick it to a guy who's hit two
threes in a row and he was really fun to watch.
I certainly miss watching him compete. Do you do you

(36:04):
miss competing And is there anything you know that that
a guy that that competed like you did for so
many years can do. I don't know a lot about
track and field. Do they have, you know, alumni tournaments?
Do they have old guy meets that you still get
involved in?

Speaker 2 (36:21):
They don't know, well, I mean they do. I just
don't participate. I guess I don't plan to ever really
high jump ever. Again, those kills are are very perishable.
As you know, as you get older, he attend, the
inches tend to shrink down in the vertical jump. So no,
I don't plan to ever participate really in any old

(36:43):
million events or anything like that. I kind of shifted
my priorities into making the kids the best they can
be at their sports, and you know, pretty knowledgeable about
most sports. I'd say hockey. Don't know much about hockey soccer.
I don't know many of the rules, but I know
kind of generally what you got to do and and
all that. So I really enjoy coaching the kids. Yeah,

(37:05):
I missed the competition greatly. You know. Now, I'm a
big deer hunter and so it's, uh, you know, play
cat and moss the deer, to harvest a deer every
year and the family. That becomes kind of my challenge,
I guess. And you know it's tough because a lot
of it relies on luck, you know, whether you get
a deer or not. So it's it's more of a

(37:26):
lock thing than it is being truly good at it,
which you know, I shouldn't really compare hunting to sports,
but that's kind of my something that.

Speaker 1 (37:35):
Well, I think that's a sport. I do. I think
it's a sport. Is Hudson or back at her shut
And that any of them have any interest in deer
hunting with.

Speaker 2 (37:44):
You, Yeah, they all three do a little bit. I
haven't taken them yet. I just want them to make
sure they know what they're doing. You know, I don't
take it lightly that you know, you end up, you know,
killing an animal and taking a life. You know, of
course we eat the but it's a big deal. So
I kind of want to make sure that they fully
understand that. So, HUDs, did I think this fall? In
a couple of weeks here, You're gonna get out in

(38:06):
the woods a little bit, so we'll see how that goes.
But yeah, I missed the competition greatly. If I could
rewind the clock and do it all over again, I would. I.
I just I love the grind and the practice and
the weight room and all that stuff. I was. I
was just a gym rat. I loved it all. I
loved the process of trying to get better and the
mental game of trying to outsmart your opponents or in

(38:29):
the you know, the game of tractor in the track
and field arena, trying to just be the best I
can be, and and grind and just put in the work.
I guess you know. I love the process of everything.

Speaker 1 (38:42):
Man, that's awesome. Good for you. He is pauling her again.
He is a former Wisconsin Badger athlete, a big time
I'll tell you this when you when you look and
I looked up his stats and he he did really
well in college. Man in high school he was big
time too again. Two Nike All American, four time Wisconsin

(39:03):
Division two state champion in the high jump. Look, when
you did that as a freshman, there's a lot of
pressure on somebody that wins state as a freshman, right,
and now everybody's everybody's giving you their best shot. Everybody's
looking at you, whether it's a conference meet or it's
you know, the state meet, and they're like, that's the

(39:23):
guy to beat. And I love the fact that you
did it not only once, but you did it four times.
Could you feel the eyes on you after, you know,
your freshman's sophomore year and you go back to back.
Now you come out as a junior and everybody's trying
to beat you. Could you feel the pressure and the
eyes on you that you were the guy that everybody
was going after.

Speaker 2 (39:45):
Yeah, I mean it's funny. I guess I felt no
pressure in my freshman year to win because I was
just I was jumping really well. I knew I stood
a chance to get to the state meet, and then
once I was there, it just kind of so happened that,
like I just had a magical day. I would say more,
I felt more pressure going into my sophomore year. There
was just a I remember it, just a little bit

(40:07):
of like a butterfly. Butterfly and my stomach feelings the
morning of state my sophomore year to repeat for the
first time was a little bit of like okay, like
I got some eyes on me. Junior senior year. It
was kind of you know what, I wouldn't say I was,
you know, boisterous or like cocky by any means, but
there I had a little bit of like such inner

(40:29):
confidence that like I I kind of had to you know,
you mentally have to walk around thinking near the man,
I guess if you want to be good, like there's
part of that that confidence that you just have to
have internally. And I had a lot of that my
junior and senior year. So I had the mental ability
and also the natural physical gifts that I was blessed with,
and I kind of just combined that into uh, just

(40:52):
really not losing at all. So I took care of
business pretty good my junior and senior year. Sophomore year
as well, but I felt a little of that pressure
sophomore year to come back and repeat and so yeah, yeah,
that was that's kind of insultory how the four years went,
But yeah, it was an amazing time.

Speaker 1 (41:12):
He is Paul and heer we're going to get to
a break. Other side of the break, we'll ask him
that question we ask at the end of faith in
the zone to all of our guests, and we'll do
that on the other side of the break. This is
Faith in the Zone on Fox Sports nine to twenty
and your iHeart Radio App. Welcome back to Faith and
Zone on Fox Sports nine twenty and your iHeartRadio App.

(41:32):
Coming live from the Donovan and Jorgans and Heating and
Cooling studios. Man, this has been fun for me. He
is Paul Andeer. I don't know a lot about track
and field. I'm learning a lot more from him, and
I thank him, Paul, I thank you for the time.
Thank Brady Ewing for the introduction. This last question was
a throwaway question a couple of years ago, and I

(41:53):
love ending the show with it. All the uniforms you
ever put on multi sport athlete in high school, track
and field athlete at the college level, all the uniforms
you've ever put on your entire life. We put him
in the closet. You get to pick one uniform out
to get one more game, one more meet with that team.
What uniform do you pick? And why?

Speaker 2 (42:15):
Oh man, this is such a tough one. I knew
you're gonna ask this, of course, but yeah, I mean
it's a tricky one because I wish I could go
back in high school and try to jump seven feet
one more time my pr My best in high school
was six eleven, and I would have loved to have
gotten to that seventh footmark. I attempted it many times
and just was never, never quite able to get over

(42:37):
the hump. So I would love to have done that.
I got a cheat though, and say that I'd also
it's almost a toss up between wanting to put that
football jersey back on, and you know, I really enjoyed
football and playing with those guys Brady and a bunch
of my other classmates. Just be a slight edge to
try to try to jump seven foot one more time

(42:58):
in my track uniform. But gosh, I love putting on
that football uniform as well. There's so many great memories.
I wish we could have ended it a little bit
better with lost at home to Gay Electric Trempolo senior year,
which was kind of a crushing loss. And yeah, I
wish we could kind of go back and write that ship,

(43:18):
but of course you can't, but you can. I love
putting that uniform kid.

Speaker 1 (43:23):
You know, Paul, I got to tell you when I
asked that question, you would think that people that competed
at the level that you did, the level that Brady did.
I got a chance to interview Curtis Granderson, a former
All Star in Major League Baseball. Oh yeah, And I
asked him that question and it wasn't in faith in
zones for the high school show I do. And he

(43:45):
looked at me. He goes my eighth grade basketball uniform,
and I go what And he goes, we lost in
the regionals and we were down one and our coach
took a time out and they were shooting a free
throw and said, look, he's gonna miss the free throw
and we get the rebound. We're gonna run this play.
And he said he missed it free throw. We ran
it perfectly, and I got the perfect shot in short

(44:07):
corner and I rimmed it out. And I would do
anything to get that game back, to get a win
for my friends in eighth grade. And I thought, man,
this is a guy who played the World Series, he
played Major League Baseball All Star Game, and so I
love the fact that you would go back to your
neighborhood and back to Richland Center and play with those

(44:27):
kids that you played. And the same answer that Brady
gave was that that how it ended senior year. And
I could tell that it's still a little bit painful
as a basketball coach. I can't tell you about many
of the wins I have, but I can tell you
a lot about all the losses. I can tell you that. So, hey, Paul,
I really appreciate a few minutes of your time. I

(44:49):
really do. And and I think John and Kim and
one day I'll come to Green Bay and maybe get
a chance to meet Erica and these three kids and
buy you guys dinner. But I really appreciate your time today.
Thank you so much for being a guest on Faith
in the Zone.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Oh I'd love that. Mike. Anytime you're from this area,
please reach out. It was just awesome to be a
guest here. Really appreciate you, you know, making the time
for me to come on your show. It was a
lot of fun. So thank you so much.

Speaker 1 (45:19):
You guy it, Paul, Thank you very much. This is
Faith in the Zone on Fox Sports ninety twenty and
your iHeart Radio app.
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