Diabetes and Re-entering the Workforce

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Timothy McCulley about diabetes. Pike also speaks with Fred Sievert about re-entering the workforce in old age.

Episode Transcript

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fifty plus with Doug Pike Friday,Good News Friday. It's not gonna be
easy because man, there's some weirdstuff going on in our country down there
where the border used to be.I'll just let that hang there and then

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try very hard to move forward andget away from that and the debt ceiling
and all those bad things. There'splenty of good news to go around,
and I'll get to as much ofit as I can between now and one
o'clock, when the second segment we'lltalk about solutions for people who have diabetes

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and either already have or potentially coulddevelop diabetic retinopathy. That's a the retinopathy
I read is the leading cause ofpreventable blindness in the country. And I've
got a doctor coming in to helpus with that. And then in the
third segment of this show, I'mgoing to talk with a guy named Fred

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Siebert who is an author, andhe's a former president of a big and
durrance company and now turned author.He gets out of school, he gets
out of school, he goes towork, he becomes president of this company,
he goes all the way through toand he retires very successfully, and
then goes back to school and getsthe master's in divinity. So he's a

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pretty smart guy. And he's goingto talk to us, those of us
in our age group who find ourselvesnot quite as ready for retirement as we
might have thought we were financially asCOVID came about and then came inflation,
and then came all of these issueswe're facing money wise, and it doesn't

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look like you have enough money toretire, and you got to go back
to work. He's going to giveus some tips on maybe doing that for
those of you who who paused andthought, you know, I'll just jump
out and take advantage of this COVIDthing, find some good in it.
Well, if it didn't work outfor you, I think Fred's going to
be able to help a lot ofus understand what we're facing and how we

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can make sure that we are thebest candidate for the position we want.
Real quick glance over stocks, they'rea little down. It's not a big
deal really that we're talking about fractionsof percentage points overall, oiled down a
touch, not a dollar, butnot up by even so much as a

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nickel. So that's good. Nothingto see there. The sun's out.
That's a good thing. And Ithink we're expecting some more rain in a
few days. But I don't believewe're gonna get washed away. Let's just
go with that. More good newsthan ever I did manage to find.
Let me see, there were someolder good news that I could lead with

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and then come back to the freshgood news. Well, this one's this
one's a little bit older than moston. There was a study conducted by
a group called Birds of a Featherrecruited more than a dozen of America's twenty
million people who have parrots for pets. This is not. By the way,

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this is not some wonderful, magicalnews. This is just interesting.
It feels good to hear this andto know it. So they get these
dozen or so people who own parrotsand ask if they would teach their parrots
to initiate video calls to other parrots, which they did, and after those

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birds learned this is pretty interesting,and after initial phases in which some of
the birds either exhibited fear or aggression, they had to be kicked out of
the group, just like you getkicked off of an airplane for being a
jerk. Well, the remainder ofthose birds over two months will pop.
Quiz you ready, did you hearany of what I've said so far?

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Yeah, you're talking about birds,parrots making video calls to other parrots.
Yeah, in a period of twomonths, how many calls do they make?
M provoked, you know, unprompted. They just made how many calls?
Uh, let's say they made twelvecalls? No, one hundred and
forty seven calls. What's that?Three a day? Three and a half

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almost four? Well, yeah,four times. We have more than four
a day. Oh, no,over two months, so more than two
a day. One hundred forty sevencalls over two months to other parrots.
Apparently the parrots can become lonely,much like humans, since they're in relative
isolation, at least from other birds. The studies well pass its time more

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than a year out now, butseveral pairs of those parents or parrots not
parents, actually still call each other, which I find interesting that it it
kind of leans toward a more directand more solid connection than we might even
imagined that birds can make with eachother. There's so much more to learn

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about the world than we know.As much as we think we know about
the world now, we don't knowdiddly do when you get right down to
it. Good news from the NFLdraft a guy named Quinton Johnson. If
you didn't hear the story drafted bythe Chargers this past week, and in
his time at the microphone, hethanked his army veteran mother for his success

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and for her pushing him to becomebetter than maybe he thought he could be.
And he let her know right thenand there that she wasn't going to
work another day in her life.There's a quote from him. She's going
to be putting in her two weeknotice today. She can retire. That's
off to that young man, huh, Quintin Johnston, drafted by the Chargers.

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He's gonna make a lot of money, and the first person he's going
to help support as his mom.I think that's pretty awesome. Mom's good
about that. Moms are going tobe there for you most of the time.
Some are better than others, butmom's overall. My mom was great.
My wife is a great mom tomy son. And and we've got
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as fifty plus continues. All right, Welcome back to fifty plus thanks for
listening, certainly to appreciate it toall of you. A man, We're
gonna talk in this segment about somethingthat I don't deal with directly because nobody

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in my family has diabetes, butI do know some people who do have
it. And what we're gonna talkabout is the impact that diabetes can have
on our vision, which as someonewho doesn't know, I just don't know
about it. And I'm gonna bringin an expert, fortunately, doctor Timothy
McCulley, Professor and Chair of theRuise Department of Ophthalmology and Visual Science with

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mcgovernment Medical School at ut Health Houston. Welcome aboard, doctor, Hello,
Hello, there you are. Helloright hey, I hear yo. My
pleasure and thanks for thanks for answeringthis early alarm. I apologize for that
it's on me. I read inadvance of this interview that diabetes has a

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potential to damage eye even to thepoint of blindness. Not overnight maybe,
but clearly this is something that peoplewould diabetes really need to monitor and be
proactive about. So first, howexactly as diabetes linked to our side?
Why why is that connection even there? Well, the main thing we worry
about is diabetes it damages your bloodvessels. And you know, of course

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you need blood flow to your eyes, so if you damage the blood flat
vessels to your eyes, it canin a number of different ways into your
vision. A condition that came upin my reading very early about this was
diabetic retinopathy, And then I keptreading and found out that retinopathy is the
leading cause of preventable blindness. Anyidea about how many cases there are in

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this country every year? Oh,I couldn't give you an exact number,
but I can tell you it's realcommon. And the main thing is is
that if you have diabetes, youreally want to keep your blood sugar under
control. If you keep your bloodsugar under control, that doesn't guarantee that
you won't your vision won't suffer,but it makes it a whole lot less.
The other thing that's important to stressto folks is there are other things

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that damage blood vessel you know,smoking, elevated cholesterol, elevated high blood
pressure, and you really want tokeep those under control too, because they'll
also make whatever diabetic retinopathy you're getting, it'll make it just that much worse.
So you want to stay on topof all those things. So basically
just be healthy. Yeah, boy, isn't it every time every time I

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talk about something that can hurt us, smoking comes up, drinking comes up,
all these things that a lot ofpeople still do. Smokin's a bad
one. Yeah, smoking's a badone for diabetic retinopathy, that's no good.
So if you've got diabetes and yousmoke, you really ought to find
another bad habit. Well, ifthere is good news at all to come
from this smoking, I just founda story on it the other day.

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In decline. Since the sixties,when it was forty two percent of American
adults, it's down to just elevenpercent. So we only have eleven percent
of hardheads left. I think,at least in the smoking corner. You
know, they just refused. Itsless common than it's less common than it
used to be. And the otherthing that's kind of nice though, is
that even when folks do smoke,it seems to be more a moderation that

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I'm sure there's still a few chainsmokers out there, but it's not as
common as it used to be.But yeah, diabetes bad. It'll damage
your blood vessels, and the twomain things that'll do is it'll it'll make
the blood vessels leaky, so youget fluid in the back of your eye
and your retinoe, which is kindof like you know, think of it
as having dirty films to the camera. And but even worse is as it

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advances, the blood vessels can clogand then think of it as having strokes
of the retiny jokes of the backof your eye. And then that gets
compounded because is the blood vessels tryto regrow. When you have those areas
with lacking blood blood flow, youget abnormal blood vessels. You don't get
good, healthy ones growing in theirreplay placement. And then those blood vessels

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can bleed and you get an eyefulof blood, or they can clog up
the drainage system for fluid in youreye and you get glaucoma, and left
unchecked, it can make you goblind. And by blind, unfortunately,
I mean truly blind where you can'ttell if the lights are on or off.
Oh my gosh, yeah, thatis blood. I haven't heard a
word of good news since you startedtalking this last time. All right,

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talk about if you stay on top, but yeah, if you stay on
top of it. So it's reallyimportant to get in see your eye doctor
regular they'll tell you how often,at minimum once a year. They'll tell
you if you need to go inmore often than that. But the main
thing is take care of your bloodsugar and see your eye doctor with whatever
regularity they recommend. Yeah, that'sthe bottom line if you go to stay

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on top of this stuff. Talkabout the early symptoms that we might notice
at home, and I look thoseup too. It's very very interesting because
I have an occasional little floater inmy eye, but it don't have diabetes.
I don't have any blurrness. Whatelse are we looking for that might
warrant a trip to the doctor?You know, honestly, what I'd almost
prefer to stress is that in theearly stages there are no symptoms. So

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if you have diabetes, you wantto get your eyes looked at so they
can see the early changes before youhave symptoms. But it thinks that you
can experience You can just have fluctuationsin your vision. Really that tells you
your blood sugar isn't under control,doesn't necessarily denote diabeticcretinopathy. But you can
have pieces of your vision missing.You can have if you have little floaters

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like you were talking about. Mostof the time. Floaters. A lot
of us have them, and they'reno big deal, but it can denote
having a little bit of blood inyour eye. And so if you have
little floaters, you want to getthat checked out. If your vision just
overall is blurry, if you noticecertain spots in your visual field are more
blurry than others, all those arethings that you can, you know,
notice early on. But I'd ratherfolks get in and get their disease identified

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prior to having symptoms announce of prevention. It's always that on the one other
thing I noticed on the other symptomI saw on the internet, which of
course is the best source of anentire world for medical advice, and you
know how I use it. I'mlaughing right with you. Yeah. But
nonetheless, difficulty perceiving colors? Doyou see that often? Not so much?

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And that's that's going to be amore subtle finding. And it's not
gonna it's not gonna come in isolation. If you if you lose your color
vision and isolation, it's it's somethingelse, Okay, very fair, Doctor
Timothy mcculloy on fifty plus. Beforewe get to treatment of retinopathy or there
are other vision related issues tied todiabetes. Well, the one thing that's

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a little bit different and I sortof alluded to it. If your blood
sugars are out of control, itcauses the lens in your eye to swell
such that your vision gets blurry.And so it can go blurry, you
know, from one part of theday to the other, you know,
day to day. So if you'reif you're noticing sort of fluctuations and how
your vision, how good your visionis, it may mean that you need

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to do a better job at controlthan your blood sugar. You have a
kind of a ballpark number of whatpercentage of diabetics get these conditions. You
know, it has to do withhow long you've had it. If someone
has diabetes, it's probably fair tosay sooner or later they're going to have
some involvement in their eyes. Um, if the rule of thumb is you're

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you're going to have trouble with youreyes, you know, mild or less
mild, depending on how well youcontrolled it. About fifteen years after diagnosis.
But we got about if you livelong enough, probably everybody's going to
have some trouble. I got you. Yeah, that's that's part of getting
old. Barely a minute left?Doctor, what about effective treatments? How
sex success fo are they and isthere any way to prevent this? See,

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that's where it's really really important.The main thing I want to drive
home. Take care of your bloodsugar, take care of your high blood
pressure, take care of your cholesterol. Don't smoke, so you avoid these
things. If you and see yourdoctor, see you catch it early.
And then if you catch it early, there's lasers you can do to dry
up some of those leaky blood vessels. To these new medications that we're using
that work really well to help getthe fluid and so forth out of your

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eyes. And it's much better todo these things is the problems arise before
it's been overly impactful to your vision. So there are a number of therapies
and is something that's really being lookedat actively. So there's new stuff coming
out every month or two. Soyou really want to stay on top of
it because there are things we cando to help folks should they develop or

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when they develop the changes in theireyes. I love talking about medicine.
You just told me you can uselasers to take care of blood vessels in
my eyeball. That's so fun.Doctor Timothy mccaullie, thank you so much
for your time. Sir, Hey, thank you for having plan. I
appreciate it. Yes, sir,all right, we gotta take off.
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is fifty plus with Doug Pike.All right, welcome back to fifty plus.

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Thanks for listening, certainly to appreciateit. Mercy. We're gonna talk
in this segment signal sigment, Ohmy gosh, segment about that don't laugh,
will about the daunting task many ofus have faced in recent years,
and that's the anxious action of reentering the workforce as seniors. Our age

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certainly brings some pluses to the table, but equally some legitimate minuses. A
lot of people would say, whodoesn't have pluses and minuses. But if
we were, if we're able topresent ourselves and our capabilities correctly and professionally,
I think the trans transition back tofull time, fulfilling work can be
a pretty good and easy one tohelp us make that leap. I am

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very fortunate to have on the line, former president of New York Life Insurance
Company and author of several books,including Fast Starting a Career of Consequence.
Mister Frederick Siebert, Welcome to theWelcome to fifty plus, fred, Thank
you, thank you, dog.Pleasure to be on the show. Oh
yeah, other then yourself who retiresat fifty nine then goes to Yale Divinity

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School and gets his masters. Thatvery I can't say I know more than
a couple of people who have donethat shortlist. Oh my god, very
shortlist. What compelled you to dothat? Yeah, you know, I've
really been excited about coming on thisshow because the book that I've written has
great applicability for people fifty plus.Now, I know you said on the

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earlier shows, because I've listened toquite a few, I think you know,
there's a broader there's a broader audience. But you know, I was
a teacher until I was aged thirty. Then I went and became an actuarial
trainee till I was thirty four.I didn't even get into business until I
was thirty five. Wow and uhAnd in ten years I rose to senior

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VP at New York Quieturance Company.A nine years later, I was I
was named the president. Oh mygosh. And so you know, and
then as you said, I wentoff to Divinity School at age fifty nine.
But you know, it was thatprocess of determining, discerning what I
wanted to do with the rest ofmy life. I was. I was
sort of very inspired by Bob Dufford'sbooks Halftime, Beyond Halftime, Finishing Well,

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and I went through a planning processand you know, decided that I'm
just going to go ahead with this, and I ended up going off to
school at fifty nine. Interesting story. I was leaving my front door in
Connecticut at age fifty nine, dressedcasually and carrying a book bag, and
my adult daughter was visiting us,and she yelled out to be dead played

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nice with the other kids, anddon't forget to share that. I thought,
you know that actually that actually waspretty profound. But yeah, you
know what happened is in terms ofwriting this book, which is very interesting.
I'm going to just take a minuteto tell you about the market expansion.
Because my daughter had gone off toshe had graduated from college. She

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was sort of languishing in an entrylevel job. Deeped out of a marketing
department in a large global cosmetics firm. And she came to me, and
she was still at New York Collects. She said, Dad, you got
to give me some tips on howI can get noticed and develop a career
and become a hype known as ahigh potential employee. So I came up

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with these I came up with thesefive tips. She did extremely well,
you know, several promotions in thenext few years, and I ended up
writing an article about it. Myagent read the article and he called me
and he said, Fred, youknow you've got another book here. And
I said, hey, I hadn'tthought about it, but you know,
make some sense. I'll have toexpand upon these tips. So I ended
up expanding on it. I usedthe tips in the commencement address, a

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couple of commencement addresses that got alot of attention. But here's the thing
about the market. It was originallygoing to be for recent college grids,
you know, because it was goingto be entering the workforce. But when
I thought, you know, there'speople coming back from child weary years and
from a veteran service in the military, so I changed the subtitle to include

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re entering the workforce. And thenall of a sudden, just you know,
almost at the point at which mymanuscript was done, in COVID hits
and I realized that this market hasexpanded to millions of people because so many
people, like like many of yourlisteners, you know, are just either
got furloughed from COVID or they're reimaginingtheir future. And as a result,

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that's why I'm so excited about comingon this show, because I really think
this book is perfect for your listeningaudience. One of the things I'll tell
you I did is I in twentythirteen, actually after I had graduated from
NEIL, I got the Wealth Channelmagazine asked me to write an article on

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retirement because they knew how unusual,just as you did, how unusual my
path was. And I think thatI think they thought I was going to
talk about retirement financial planning. Ididn't talk about that at all. And
the title of the article was healthieror Happier and younger in retirement because that's
exactly how I felt. And thatarticle really was along the lines of the

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planning I did to make that decisionto change my life. And it really
asked the audience that was that wasreading the article three questions. You know,
what are your greatest passions? Andif you have people in your listening
audience over age fifty or even younger, you know, you first got to

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understand what are your passions? Secondly, you ask yourself the question what unique
gifts and skills do I have thatwould enable me to realize those passions?
You know, in my case,because of my faith, it was I
thought about my spiritual gifts and howI could apply those. And the third
and final question in that article waswhat can you do to position yourself for

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greatest impact, you know, asyou're prepared to make that move. So
you know, the book the bookwas, you know, based on all
my experiences throughout my career, thetips I gave my daughter, the tips
I thought of later to add tothe book, and two of them in
particular, I just wanted to makesure I mentioned on this this interview is

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you know, I thought about entrepreneurs. I thought about people, you know,
saying at age fifty or fifty fiveor even sixty, you know,
I've had enough, or I gotthurlough from COVID, I've had enough,
I want to move on and whatam I going to do? And a
lot of people are going to say, I want to start up a business
or I want to, you know, start an entrepreneurial thing. So the

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two chapters that my daughter found veryimportant and I think are equally important for
your listeners are developing strategic thinking capabilitythat that was one of the original chapters,
and understanding the financial underpinnings of yourbusiness, because I think anyone who
wants to become an entrepreneuri an additionalworking really hard and being computed to it,

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they have to they have to thinkstrategically about how they're going to get
in the market, how they're goingto create a competitive advantage, and they
better understand the financials, even thoughyou know, they may never have taken
economics, accounting or you know,mas Eve, I made it very simple
for my daughter how to develop anunderstanding of the financial underpinnings of the business,

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so that someone thinking about starting upa company needs even if they haven't
had experience running a p and hellas they say, running a profit laws
statement, they could they could learna lot from my book because it's very
practical and even though it has eventhough it has the faith based aspects to
it. That's five chapters, andthen there's ten chapters on these tips.

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And if you were to read someof the many reviews on Amazon, at
least half of them are more orsay this book is not just for Christians
because of the value of the businessadvice. Wonderful, fantastic, believe it
or not, you have taken usall the way to the end of our
time. I'm gonna well, Iam too here. I'll make you a

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deal. I'd like to have youon again fairly soon so that I can
use these questions I have here,because there are some there's some question,
no, no, no. Thereason I didn't stop you is because what
you were doing was giving us verygood information. I'm not knocking you for
that, but I still I wantto follow up with you for with another
ten and I got about a halfa dozen or so very pointed questions to

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maybe help some of these folks getback to work. Can we do that?
Yeah, okay, that's great.I'd love to come back. Thank
you so much. I'll get itset up for you fast. Starting a
Career of Consequence by Fred Siebert Man. Thank you so much for that.
This is it helped me a lot. Actually, I'm still grinding. I'm
gonna be working for a hundred years, but I have Actually I picked up

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a couple of things in what youjust said that really resonated with me.
So thank you so much, Fred. Oh, thank you for having me.
Oh yes, sir, look Ireally look forward to coming back.
Thank you. I'll take you upon that, I promise. All right,
we'll see huh. All right,I've got to take a little break
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good plan. Fifty plus continues here'smore with Doug Hi. Welcome back to
fifty plus. Thankful listening. Certainlyappreciate it. That book of his I've
actually taken a look and yet itsvery valuable. I am going to get

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Fred Siebert back on the phone.I am going to ask him my questions
because I didn't want to interrupt theman. He was on a roll and
I wanted to let him roll.But I boy, I want to get
him back. I've got I've gotsome pointed questions, more direct questions about
re entering the workforce that I wantto bring up with him for the benefit
of us, for seniors who aretrying to roll back in and sitting in

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the waiting room with a bunch ofpeople about half our age and about to
go be interviewed by someone probably closerto half our age, and so they're
gonna be tips he's gonna have thatare gonna be really good for us.
By the way, on this GoodNews Friday, if you sent me a
friend request on Facebook lately, don'tbe alarmed if I didn't accept it.

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I've been snagged a couple of timesnow have my account hijacked. And the
first sign I get of that isreal friends letting me know they've received from
requests from me that I didn't sendbecause they were already friends. I don't
know how to avoid upsetting somebody who'smaybe brand new to Facebook, so they
don't have many, if any mutualfriends. I don't know. Maybe send

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me an email or something to letme know that there's a request that's in
there that's genuine. But otherwise,because it's such a hassle to have to
go in there and recrank everything,I just can't accept some of these ones
that I get from young pretty girlswho want to be my friend and don't
have any mutual friends with me.I can't imagine that those could be fake,

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huh or any parts whatever? Nevermind, so real quickly, keep
the AM radios in the cars.We talked about this. If you want
Congress to step in and make surethat we keep AM radios in our cars
and trucks, text the letters AMto five two eight eight six. That's
AM to five two eight eight six. I've talked about that a lot lately,

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and I hope you have all donethat. You'll get a response from
your Congress people, well from theiroffice anyway, and you'll your text will
go into a big pile of them. I presume they have some of the
good news that I have for today. Oh boy, where do I want
to start? You want to startwith vegetables, will or rescues. Let's

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go with veggies. Gotta eat yourveggies first, you know. Well,
yeah, to be to be strongenough to well, you'd need some protein
more than just let us. Butanyway, I digress. Up in Canada,
a family has turned an abandoned school, and there are lots of those.
If you stop and look around,I bet you you could find more
than one or two abandoned schools havebeen This school has been turned into a

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hydroponic farm. And these people areout in the country. They're way out
in a rural area, okay,but they are growing enough vegetables in that
school to feed the entire town throughwinter. Small town in Saskatchewan, granted,
But the pictures of what they're doingare testimony to how clever and creative

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people can be when they need tonecessity right the mother of invention. The
couple who run this operation even createda drive through window at which town folks
can roll through and for a verynominal price pick up a variety of lettuces,
basil, dial cucumbers, tomatoes,radishes, parsley, and a few

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other vegetables and herbs and whatnot thatthey're growing there. At present. They're
growing all that stuff in just threeclassrooms. In the library, but it's
been so successful that they're thinking aboutusing the entire school. The necessity,
by the way, that launched thisschoolhouse garden, as you might suspect,

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was COVID nineteen and how tough itwas for people, especially people out in
the country to get fresh produce.Somebody saw a need, they saw a
way to fill it, and theydid something about it, right A.
I'll throw that in for my Canadianfriends. Back to the rescues, and
there were several recently. An Australianwoman, I guess this goes from the

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longest time loss to the shortest,is what I'm doing. Australian woman was
lost for eight days in the outbackback there. They finally found her,
covered in scrapes and cuts, butnonetheless live. She and her partner had
stopped at a rest area on theway to visit a friend, and this
woman, Ricky Michelle, a motherof four. Ricky Mitchell, decided to

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go for a quick swim to cooloff. Apparently that's something that they do
at rest areas in the outback ofAustralia, and then she decided to go
for a quick walk afterward out intothe brush just to look around and get
some country air and some clean airin her lungs, and got off the
trail and then got lost. Shewandered far enough in the wrong direction that

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research that's certain not researchers. Searcherscouldn't find her, and then became just
entirely disoriented and just kept on walking. It's pretty much lucky to be alive,
I would think. At Lake ofthe Pines right here in Texas.
This story's been out for a littlewhile, but I haven't had a chance
to share it with this audience.Hit These bass fishermen are coming in from

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an afternoon on the water, andthey noticed the top of a jeep barely
above the water near a boat ramp, And when they go over to investigate
the vehicle, they find a womanstill alive in the car. Somehow the
police get there. The guys arekeeping an eye on the car. She's

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still kicking and breathing and whatnot.And when they get there, when the
police get there, they jump inthe guy's boats. It's too deep to
wait out. They go in thebass boat, get out there and actually
get that woman out of that car. She was there for several hours,
been reported missing by her family,members, But nobody had noticed the top

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of that jeep barely sticking out ofthe water. And those guys in that
boat just happened to be in theexact right place at the exact right time.
There was another one. Where isthat thing? There was another lucky
guy. Oh yeah. An eightyear old boy in Michigan lost in the
wood for two days, said hesurvived by eating what will. I'll tell

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you it was snow not gonna besnowy around here. It's gonna be hot
as blazes. We'll be back onTuesday. Thanks for listening, Audios