Preparation for Surgery

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Victoria Tang about surgery preparation.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:01):
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All right, here we go.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Thursday edition of the program starts right now, and not
a bad day. It started off horribly because people did
not heed sky Mike's warnings in the in the traffic reports. Well,
I guess they probably weren't listening to him. But I
who was out yesterday, I talked about this yesterday. The
roads were still very icy in places. But what happened

(01:17):
yesterday is where all of that slush had been pushed
off to the sides of the freeways. It melted through
much of the day and didn't evaporate before last night's
temperatures slumped below freezing and so created some pretty dog
gone icy conditions, far more icy and dangerous than most

(01:40):
Houstonians have ever witnessed. It's some and it was a
wreck that I want to say, well, literal wreck this morning,
I want to say. Mike said there were something like
forty or fifty accidents reported this morning, some of them
more serious than others, and a couple of fatality if
I'm not mistaken. Really sad when people just don't if

(02:06):
you don't understand how to drive in icy conditions, then
they stay home. And that's what happened to a lot
of people this morning. They got caught entirely off guard,
thinking that just because the last hundred yards of freeway
you drove weren't icy, that the next two yards or
ten yards wouldn't be icy either, And that's where you

(02:28):
get yourself into trouble and you start spinning a little bit,
and then your truck or car or suv whatever gets
kind of sideways and it slips off of the ice
back onto to full traction concrete, and that's kind of
the thing that probably caused one of the rollovers this morning. Sad, really,

(02:50):
so sad well hit the weather first thanks to text
sind or air quality specialists, the duckwork specialists I know,
and I really I know the owner and I like
his work Texas iaq dot net because cleaner air is
healthier air. The good news is we are off the
ice truck now for a while, a couple of more

(03:12):
nights in the upper thirties around Houston than overnights higher
than fifty all the way through next Thursday, at least.

Speaker 3 (03:19):
Bad news.

Speaker 2 (03:20):
Also, there's a pretty good chance for rain on three
of the next six days, but I'll take that over
sub freezing any day. Off to market we go, thanks
to Houston Gold Exchange, where three of the four major
indicators were in the red earlier this morning, but not
disturbingly so, just enough to catch my attention. I don't

(03:41):
like seeing red anywhere except on oil prices, and unfortunately
oil also green this morning. Still influenced very heavily by
world events. A lot of that should abate, it should
kind of back off. Prices should startling rapidly once our

(04:02):
domestic oil and gas industry gets back to full speed
behind changes that were made day one really of our
new president's term. It's not gonna happen overnight, but it's
gonna happen, no question about it. We will, I'm confident,
regain energy independence in this world and start selling oil

(04:23):
to the rest of the world rather than buying it
from foreign enemies, which just drove me nuts. Throughout President
Biden's term, I couldn't believe he he whittled away our
strategic reserves. He left us in a position where we
had to buy from some of the worst countries in
the world, and that just hopefully that will never happen again.

(04:45):
A quick snicker. I think behind the freeze one of
the TV stations there at a piece yesterday and I
can't honestly can't remember which station it was, but on
freeze prep and on just making sure that when and
if something like this ever happens again, you're ready. And
they were interviewing they were at the home next door
to a plumber's home, and they were interviewing that plumber

(05:09):
and talking specifically about how the neighbor had followed the
plumber's advice when he covered the sprinkler system's bellvalve and
the plumbers standing there the camera's on the reporters just
standing there like a deer in the headlights listening, and
the prumber goes, yay, he put a plastic bag over
it to keep everything dry in there. That's important. You
don't want your your covering on your system there to

(05:33):
get wet because that'll just make it colder, and blah
blah blah, and they go yep. He takes the plastic
bag off of it and said, yep, he wrapped it
in towels. That that's good. And he turned off the
water and everything's looking really, really good. And so now
he's got it completely undressed. The towels are off, the
bags off, and he goes, so, now all you got
to do to turn it back on, you just move

(05:54):
this handle ninety degrees like this. And when he moves
that handle ninety degrees, water shoots out everywhere. The entire
valve blown up despite the precautions. My guess, My guess
is that if there wasn't enough insulation with those two
little towels and a plastic bag to truly protect that

(06:16):
valve as cold as it got, what was it night
before last? That was the one. If you got through
that one, you should be pretty good to do whatever
you did this time next time and man, that other guy,
I don't know whose house that was, but he's got
a pretty good expense coming up, and it may be
a while before he can get a plumber who can

(06:38):
find one of those bell valves.

Speaker 3 (06:40):
They tend to.

Speaker 2 (06:41):
Plumbers tend to set them aside ahead of an event
like this. They'll go to the supply stores and get
as many as they can. And so if you can
find one, go ahead and get it done, but it
is going to cost you. I bought one of those
covers you can get online that fit very snugly. It's
pretty thick and heavy and got several layers in it
and it fits right down to the ground and then

(07:03):
velcroz closed along the ground. And that thing's supposed to
be good all the way down to five degrees. And
on top of that, just because I'm a belt and
suspenders guy, I have a little one inch thick foam
insulation cover that I built that snugs up to that
and then I secure that to the brick wall, and man,

(07:27):
if that thing busted, I don't know what to do there.
I'll just get rid of my sprinkler system. I think.
At that point, I hope the thing's good to five degrees,
it says, I hope I really never have to find
out whether it is or isn't good to five degrees.
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Speaker 1 (09:14):
That's why every few months we wash them, check his fluids,
and spring on a fresh code O wax. This is
fifty plus with Doug Pike.

Speaker 2 (09:30):
All right, welcome back fifty plus on a beautiful day outside.
Beautiful because it's getting warmer by the minute, and we
don't have to worry about any freezes for quite some
time now, at least five or six days, maybe a week,
maybe two, I don't know. I couldn't find a true
freeze on the extended forecast, which went out a little waste.
In this segment, we're gonna talk about something I'm not
entirely sure we've ever covered on the show in all

(09:52):
the years it's aired. How many episodes now will seven
to eight whatever, there's a lot, a lot, seven to
eight hundreds something like that. And this topic is going
to be preparation for surgery and to help I'm going
to welcome to fifty plus. Doctor Victoria Tang, clinician, researcher
and assistant professor at McGovern Medical School. Good afternoon, doctor Tang, Hi.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
Good afternoon, Doug and the whole crew.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
You bet well, it's not as big a cru as
you might think. It's just willing man. Surgery can be
a really scary thing, whether it's your first trip or
your tenth into the or and the doctor who's going
to do that works likely going to hand over a
pages long list of pre op instruction. Generally speaking, what's
going to be adder near the top of that list

(10:42):
from the doctor?

Speaker 4 (10:44):
Yeah, that's absolutely a great question. So usually your doctor
is going to say, hey, you need to make sure
you quit smoking. You got to make sure you know
you're not drinking alcohol, and got to make sure you
do whatever preparatory cleaning that happens before surgery right before
so that you enter surgery and you have a better outcome.

(11:07):
And the thing that you know, I'm wanting to emphasize
to your listeners is there's more to it that's not
written in these teapers. And the two kind of biggest
pieces that's missing that I think is really important is
a mindset work and your support network, and so so

(11:31):
I'll stop there any questions on that or anything that
comes up. Have y'all had surgery before.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
I've had a couple. I've had a couple, but I'm
I didn't pay attention to much of it. There's a
there's a long story that I won't bother you with.
And let's unless we end up talking on the phone
again about when I got my wisdom teeth taken out,
but yeah, it was. It's pretty funny, but nothing serious.
Let's let's focus on that mindset, the deal and how

(12:00):
to get the right mindset for this. How how far
out should the process begin? For starters?

Speaker 3 (12:07):
Yeah, so I.

Speaker 4 (12:09):
Would say when you know you're having surgery, right, when
you know, that's when you got to start working. Sometimes
you know you'll have a week in advance of notice.
Sometimes you'll have months in advance right, And sometimes you
might be in a place where you're like, I don't
even know if I'm wanting or planning on having surgery,
but it might be in my future. When you're thinking

(12:29):
of surgery like that is a that is the moment
to start working on the mindset, and that mindset is
really building that resilience of you know, I can do this?
What are the things that I can do that's within
my control to make sure the outcome of surgery is
the one I want. And for a lot of folks,

(12:50):
it is recovering, right, going back to our kind of
day to day life and shoveling snow Maybe not no, no.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
I don't ever want to have to. I'm not shoveling.
So what so what does what does preparation via resilience
look like? Is it meditation or are you going to educate
yourself more? What's going to be done? Or maybe a
brief look or discussion with somebody who knows about the
pros and cons of the operation? What do you what
do you do to get that armor on you?

Speaker 4 (13:21):
Yeah? I love that. That's all those things right, So
it depends on the person, but I would say all
those things. Some people feel like, hey, I need to
feel in control, so I need to learn more about this.
You know about this procedure, about this operation. So that's
one way to do it right, and by learning more,
you're you're kind of anxiety or your overwhelmer. You have

(13:42):
these uncomfortable feelings you know are better managed, but also
just rely remembering Hey, in the past, I've been able
to overcome lots of things, and so when I'm about
to go into this surgery, I've got you know, especially
your fifty plus, right, y'all have all this wisdom and

(14:03):
knowledge of having survived all the things. So just reminding
yourself and practicing like, hey, I know I can survive
or I can conquer whatever is to come. And that practice,
whether it be within meditation, whether it be like hey,
let me just recall all the things I've lived through

(14:24):
already to give you that resilience, I think is really key.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
I think I can speak for this entire audience and
say that when we were younger, we did a lot
of things that if we survived that we can do.
Just value surgery.

Speaker 4 (14:39):
That's absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (14:40):
I would presume also, doctor saying that it's not a
good idea for our overall mindset before surgery to get
online and start looking up all the complications and problems
that can pop up with that particular surgery, right.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I would agree with you. It just depends on what
you're going to use with that information. Also depends on
what is your mindset. Are you going in because you're
scared and you're like oh my gosh, you know, or
is it like, Hey, I'm going to go look up
these publications because I want to prepare for all the
things that may come. And if that's the approach you're
going with, then then that's okay, you know. But if

(15:17):
it's creating more anxiety, it might not be put it down,
might not be good exactly.

Speaker 2 (15:23):
Doctor Victory tang on fifty plus here. Resilience isn't everyone's
strongest quality? Really are There are there simple ways to
build that up generally, whether it's surgery or not, maybe
mental exercises or just like you said, just really it
makes sense to me, now that you've said it, to
think back on all the things that I survived growing
up to get to the age I am now, and

(15:45):
I can't think of any surgery I can't handle when
I think about that.

Speaker 4 (15:50):
Yeah, absolutely, And you know that's the funny thing. I
you know, I want to make sure we all age
well and gracefully and strongly, and so surgery is just
one piece that I do. It's a great place for
us to you know, focus and build these resilient skills on.
But I think that, you know, the biggest thing that
we can learn when we're faced with challenges, is how

(16:13):
we one can overcome them and then two that we
have overcome them. And so one of the tools and
techniques that we're studying right now is trying to use
problem solving therapy or problem solving techniques to see whether
that might help improve recovery time of people that have
major surgery versus those that you know have education material

(16:37):
but not necessarily that problem solving training. And I do
want to emphasize, like we all have problem solving skills, right,
We've lived this long. It's just sometimes we forget. And
so if we just you know one, remember hey, we've
been able to do this before. And then here's this

(16:57):
structured way of problem solving, which is identifying your problem,
I dynamifying your goals, brainstorming what you know, what potential
solutions are, figuring out what the pros and cons of
each of those solutions are, and then picking one solution
that you want to try out and planning it out,
action planning, stepping it, and then going for it and

(17:20):
just rinse and repeat, rinse and repeat. It will show
you you've got skill.

Speaker 2 (17:25):
It makes perfect sense, believe it or not. We're already
out of time. I'm so sorry. I wish I could
visit with you a little bit longer. Thank you so
very much, doctor Victoria Tang. Get yourself ready for surgery.
Do it however is best for you, and the outcome
will be better. Thank you so much.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
Thank you, my pleasure.

Speaker 2 (17:43):
Bo bye, good advice, good advice. And if I ever
need surgery again, I'm gonna I'm gonna go at it
with that, that mindset, that and not to show up
hammered for surgery. She emphasized that as well. We'll take
on little break. We'll be right back. You're listening to
fifty plus on AM nine fifty kprc.

Speaker 1 (18:06):
Aged to Perfection. This is fifty plus with Dougpike.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
All right, welcome back, well thirty three on this beautiful afternoon.
I'm gonna get outside. I've got some work to do
at a friend's house. To this guy and his wife
left for Australia this past week before the freeze, and
they had a bunch of plants on their back patio

(18:42):
that were moved before they left into the garage into
a little makeshift greenhouse. He's set up in there with
a brilliant heating device rather than a lamp. Or anything
like that. He actually set up a big trash can
full of a thirty or forty gallons of water and
then installed an aquarium heater, which doesn't generate enough heat

(19:10):
to start any kind of a fire, but it warms
that water and keeps those plants nice and happy and
toasty warm, except for the fact that they are also
in the dark, which means this afternoon, my son is
going to meet me there and we are going to
go in and move those plants back onto the patio
now that we don't have to worry about a freeze.

(19:31):
Might wait until tomorrow, because it is supposed to be
pretty cold tonight and I don't want to get them
out of there prematurely. In fact, I'll have to figure
that out. We may have to wait until Saturday. We've
got a company Christmas party here tomorrow. Well, not here,
a holiday party. It's not a Christmas party. It's a
little late or early for that, depending on which way
you're looking. Noy event, let's move forward into a couple

(19:52):
of news things that I found. The far left is
doubling down on redefining wrong. As far as I'm concerned
with this. A transgender attorney for the ACLU. Jimmy Barrett
talked about this on KTRH actually earlier today, this person
has labeled biological women as non transgender women in some

(20:14):
hair brained attempt to redefine biology yet again and start
every discussion with transgender this or that. I'm not sure why.
That's like two negatives making a positive in math only.
I'm positive this isn't right. In a post on X

(20:35):
this guy actually he said, and i'll paraphrase, he said
he was afraid that President Trump's two gender Executive Order
recently would ban men ban transgender women from non trans
women locker rooms. They're just women, They're regular old women.

(20:55):
You don't have to try to add adjectives to their
status to make it fit your narrative. It's not necessary.
Maybe we can call cats non dogs or vegetables non fruits.
I don't know where it's this end. Actually, I think
it has ended this past Monday. Moving on, Let's see

(21:16):
where do I want to go from here? There's so
much going on. It really is a little lighter thing.
I found this quite humorous. Actually, today will in case
you didn't know, hello, oh there you are, Today is
national what day? Let me see if it's written up here, you.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Know it is National January twenty third day. Additionally that
that was not your best.

Speaker 2 (21:42):
That's about like a one point four well throwing out
the date. Today is National Handwriting Day, Oh yeah, for
some reason. And the interesting telling sign of the times
I found to celebrate this is that the National Archives
of this United States of ours is bringing in volunteers

(22:07):
to translate the cursive handwriting in which many of our
country's most treasured documents were penned. They're doing that for
people who are touring the facility and might perhaps walk
up on the Constitution of the United States or the
Declaration of Independence, or some other long ago document relative

(22:31):
and important to the United States of America that was
written in cursive. Because younger people that you don't have
any trouble with that, do you will? No, I wouldn't
think so, But younger people do because the only writing
they really see is what's on their phones, and they
print most of what they write. And it's really it

(22:54):
is a sign of the time that truly cursive, I guess,
is the modern day version of hieroglyphics, because the people
who are looking at it, the younger people who are
looking at it. Just don't have a clue. Do you
write in cursive? I do sometimes. My hand was much
steadier when I was a little bit younger, and I

(23:14):
had decent handwriting for a guy. Cursive writing my printing
actually is far more legible for some reason.

Speaker 3 (23:24):
So that's what you write. Well.

Speaker 2 (23:26):
Sometimes I still will write like a personal thank you
note or something like that. I will write in cursive most.

Speaker 3 (23:33):
Of the time, so that way you can just kind
of squiggle it about and not really have to put
much thought into it.

Speaker 2 (23:39):
No, I put more thought into it because I have to.
I have to try really hard not to make it
look horrible, and make sure you have a fine point
pen so that if you do get close to making
a mistake, the ink doesn't run into the other half
of the letter or whatever.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
It's.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Yeah, that's about all we need to spend on that. Really.
From the Waste of time desk, this is a new
new category for us.

Speaker 1 (24:07):
Will.

Speaker 2 (24:08):
From the waste of time desk comes a decision that
took up valuable time in the Colorado Supreme Court recently,
which has come to the decision that elephants cannot sue
to leave a local zoo up there in Colorado somewhere
the reason take three guesses, they're not human. That's why

(24:30):
you don't need to guess. The case was based on
habeas corpus, which the story shared is what allows individuals
in custody to challenge their detention or incarceration in court
Colorado's top legal minds. It's Supreme Court, however, voted six
to nothing against the non Human Rights group which filed

(24:54):
the suit. That's the name of them, non Human Rights Group,
and argued that since elephants show roh some cognitive capacities
similar to humans, they therefore would qualify for habeas corpus.
The court said, uh, and I'm gonna paraphrase here. Guess again, Sparky,
that's not how it works. They use different words, but

(25:15):
and far more eloquent words in language. But that's what
it said. Out, just take you and the elephants go out.
One of the guys that at the at the office
here pointed out that if these people are so concerned
about the well being of those five elderly elephants and
want them out of there, buy them, just buy them,

(25:37):
mask what's the price when we want to put them
somewhere else and for the right price. I suspect that
the people who house them now would sell them, and
I don't. They're not in any danger from what I read.
They're just they're just taking up court time. I guess hmm.
The brand new and long needed Department of Government Efficiency

(25:59):
has been tabbed by President Trump with eliminating waste in
the federal government. Most of you know that their first
step is to shut down remote work and get people
back to their offices and desks in the federal government
where someone in a supervisory capacity can actually see them working. Apparently,
some of the people who have been taking advantage of

(26:21):
the work from home thing all the way since back
during COVID are not really doing as much work as
they're supposed to be. The plan is supposed by what
President Trump sign is supposed to be sorted out by
clothes of business tomorrow. I'm going to presume for implementation
starting Monday next stop. No more two hundred dollars hammers,

(26:45):
no more three thousand dollars toilets, No more fifty dollars
light bulbs. Elon Musk wrote that this program likely will
end in a wave of voluntary terminations, and that each
and every one of those will be welcome. Let's do
something fun. Will I got a minute here to test you?

(27:06):
Do you want to have on this day in history?
Which will just be straight up come out of your shell?
Or sing us a song?

Speaker 3 (27:16):
I don't know if I want to hear you sing
us a song.

Speaker 2 (27:20):
It's not gonna be me. It's not gonna be me,
and it's not gonna be anybody. It's just that's just
the title of this little story that you're wasting time on.

Speaker 3 (27:29):
I guess we'll do this sing song now, let's do that.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
Group of singers in England broke the record for the
world's oldest choir. Will on average amongst these seventeen singers,
what is their average age? For all the money in
the world and the camper seventy eight, the average age
of these seventeen singers is ninety four. I guess they're

(27:55):
just trying to make it to the end of the
next song each time they tee it up.

Speaker 3 (27:58):
Huh, I'm not even chre can actually hear the choir?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
No, no, don't make fun of elderly people and their
softer voices. I'm not making fun of them them. Get
a recording of one of them. You're gonna come in
here and just belt it out on just saying that's it.
I'm looking them up, and we're gonna look them up
during the break. Yeah, what we're gonna do, and maybe
just tee it up when we get back. We'll take

(28:23):
a little break here. No, Will, that's not how older
people sing. It's not at all. I would be willing
to bet you that their voices are very clean and
pure because they as singers, they've taken care of them
lo these many years. Can they hit the high notes?
Can they hit a high sea?

Speaker 1 (28:38):
No?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Probably not, but I bet they can sing in their
own little register and do just fun. We'll take a break,
we'll be right back. I'm gonna look them up. If
I can find them, we'll play some of it more.
Fifty plus coming right up.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Old guys rule, and of course women never get old.
If you want to avoid sleeping on the couch.

Speaker 2 (29:00):
Okay, well, do you think that sounds like a good plan?
Fifty plus continues. Here's more with Doug. Do you abandon ship?

Speaker 3 (29:12):
Did you? Will? What are you talking about?

Speaker 2 (29:18):
Will was charged with finding some singing from the prime
timers over there in Great Britain, and I tried as well,
but most of what we found is more news interviews
from over there where they hold that title where they
are and hold the title of the world's oldest choir

(29:41):
with an average age of ninety four. But there really
wasn't enough actual singing to get even a good sound
bite it.

Speaker 3 (29:47):
There was a bit of sing but it's, you know,
two seconds and then some narrator.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
Comes right, they just have to just muddy the water
instead of letting the people sing. And the one I
pulled up was it was jingle bells and there were
more bells than singing. Unfortunately, I don't know, I didn't
get to listen long enough for them to even start singing.
I did see one one video of them singing the

(30:17):
will that we probably should have pulled up. They had
a what I'm sure is a very great guns n'
Roses medley.

Speaker 3 (30:25):
Oh really, no, not really, but.

Speaker 2 (30:29):
It would have been good, you know, it would, you
know it would. Sadly, by the way, there is another
fire burning in southern California. This one scorched several thousand
acres yesterday at barely two hours and forced thousands of
people to evacuate with little or no notice whatsoever. Really, scary.

(30:52):
It really really is scary. Speaking of by the way,
a couple of things. First of all, there is a
one hundred pound pet tortoise out there near la that
survived the Eton firestorm by retreating into its burrow, which

(31:13):
is about three feet underground. So if you're ever wanting
to be able to just stand your ground as a
wildfire goes through your neighborhood and maybe put in an
underground panic room, I think that would be. There would
be some complications in maintaining air quality in that thing

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while the fire raged above you. But the ground certainly
would insulate you from the heat. I think it would anyway,
And I don't know there would be there would be
odd ball that it'd cost a fortune to build that thing.
Speaking of tortoises, the oldest known living land animal is

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a one hundred and ninety two year old giant tortoise
named Jonathan. Doesn't say where it lives, I guess wherever
it wants.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
I thought it was gonna say. His name was Doug
and he lived in Sugar Lad Cow.

Speaker 2 (32:13):
That's pretty bold. Better. Yeah, your turn's coming, and your
turn's coming. That that was a bad play, will.

Speaker 3 (32:23):
That was good?

Speaker 2 (32:24):
It's gonna cost you. That's gonna cost.

Speaker 3 (32:26):
I think the year of twenty twenty five needs a
little bit more ribbing. Oh is that right? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Okay, yeah, Well just if you can dish it out,
you better be able to take it.

Speaker 3 (32:36):
I have the I have a thicker skin than a
tortoise shell.

Speaker 2 (32:40):
It's good that we both do, because we do poke
fun at each other from time to time. You because
I'm a little older than you. At least I'm better looking,
you know. All right, So I want to scratch the
prime timers that just that didn't pan out the way
we really wanted it to, neither of us. Uh, back
to you, will, Okay? On this day? Can you keep

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a secret? Or that's just nasty?

Speaker 3 (33:11):
Can you keep a secret?

Speaker 2 (33:14):
Okay, we'll do that one. According to a new report WILL,
sixty two percent of workers worldwide say they hide aspects
of themselves at work, which is up fifty five percent
from last year, and things apparently are more hidden in
North America, where seventy percent of workers say they are

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secretive about some aspects of their lives. What secrets are
you keeping? Will, I have no idea.

Speaker 3 (33:43):
I feel like an open book, but you know what
it makes me think of though. Maybe people are going
into their American Psycho lives. You know, maybe so you
never seen that or read the book. No, no, you've
never seen American Psycho.

Speaker 2 (34:00):
I don't believe so. Well what, hey, man, I could
name off a hundred movies that you haven't seen.

Speaker 3 (34:05):
Come on, we'll name one. You gotta see American Psycho.

Speaker 2 (34:12):
Okay, I'll just put that right on top of my lip.
I'll get right on it. Will watch it today. I
probably will die.

Speaker 3 (34:20):
I doubt it, but you should.

Speaker 2 (34:22):
I think you're secretly keeping from us that you have
all of the primetimers' videos I look through.

Speaker 3 (34:31):
I promise no, there are no Primetime videos without the
dialogue over them.

Speaker 2 (34:39):
Oh my god. Yeah, that's sad too, because I'm sure
that if you got a chance to hear them, they
would be a lot better than having somebody reading a
boring script over their voices. It's shame on them. That's wrong.
That one was kind of boring. Let me go back
to a couple more peek into the future or that's
just nasty, that's just nasty. Okay, here we go, will

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and this is kind of a pop quid, well not
a pop quiz, but just a curiosity, I'm gonna ask.

Speaker 3 (35:07):
You what is yours?

Speaker 2 (35:08):
What would be on your list? The site Taste Atlas
ranked the one hundred grossest foods in the world based
on tourist reviews. I guarantee you you won't get the
first one. What's number one top spot worldwide?

Speaker 3 (35:28):
World? Why?

Speaker 2 (35:29):
And just the name tells you how nasty they are?

Speaker 3 (35:33):
I really couldn't tell you.

Speaker 2 (35:35):
Over in Scandinavia they have those fish you know that
you've seen people probably on videos open these cans. I
can't recall the name right off hand, but people will
just get their nose down near the can and just
start wretching, and it just it's disgusting, but they just
lap that stuff over there, they lap it up.

Speaker 3 (35:56):
The number one.

Speaker 2 (35:57):
Top spot for grossest food in the world, which apparently
is grosser than that fish I'm thinking of, is Scandinavian
blood pancakes.

Speaker 3 (36:09):
Blood pancakes?

Speaker 2 (36:10):
Yeah, what's that do for you at the lunch hour? Sorry?

Speaker 3 (36:12):
Sorry, I want to know what's in a blood pancake?

Speaker 2 (36:15):
Well, what would you guess?

Speaker 3 (36:17):
Probably beats or something?

Speaker 2 (36:19):
No, oh no, I bet you not. Look them up.
Look them up while I keep reading. Also, making the
top ten New York's ramen burgers, which I think is
kind of silly more than disgusting or gross. I don't
know what's in those ramen burgers either, but that's it
sounds like some feeble vegetarian attempt to make something that

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looks like a hamburger but most definitely is not. If
they're making it with real ramen noodles, it would it would.
You could probably more appropriately call it a worm burger.
A ready gross?

Speaker 3 (36:54):
Yeah? Come on, give me the recipe made of whipped blood,
typically reindeer blood water.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
I got that kills They sell that at AGIB. I
don't know, probably should no, no, keep eating.

Speaker 3 (37:05):
It's okay they it says it's similar to a black pudding,
but it's thinner and crispier. Oh, in a frying plan,
and they are usually served with crushed lingenberries, oh, of course,
and sometimes with pork or reindeer meat.

Speaker 2 (37:23):
People over there eat some really weird stuff.

Speaker 3 (37:25):
Will oh my word, now we do too.

Speaker 2 (37:29):
I'd have to be really really hungry to sit down
to a plate of that. I think you put in
the frying pan, then you just dump it into the
trash and just cut up the pan. Hit yourself in
the head with the pan. Don't knock it till you
try it does. I'm never gonna try that, and I'll
knock at all I want. That's horrible. Check your priorities
or overreaction. No, we gotta go, Oh we do. Holy cow,
We'll be back tomorrow. I'm gonna go test out one

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of those pancakes. Thanks for listening. We'll see you in audios.