PTSD and Managing Stress

Today, Doug Pike interviews Dr. Andrea Taylor about PTSD. Pike also speaks with Jill Robin Payne about dealing with stress.

Episode Transcript

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message to my the guy who's crewdoes my yard, just in time before
he started something he shouldn't have.And all is well in the world kind
of, I guess. Welcome backto fifty plus. Thanks as always for

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giving me some of your early afternoon. I wish I could promise no rain
this afternoon, but that would beI think that would be optimistic at worst
and best. I think at thesame time, maybe it probably about as
much as I'm gonna be wishing nextweek that it would finally rain again.
We're staring down five or six daysquite possibly followed by one hundred or so

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more, maybe one hundred and thirty, a pretty significant heat to get us
through summer. And when's it gonnacool off? Will October? Maybe you
can't even count on September anymore.September is going to be hot. It
always is. And the one thingyou can count on for September is that
it will there will be a significantamount of rainfall in the three days prior

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to September or first whenever that issomewhere somehow, a good portion of the
state will get a good rain forthree or four days within three or four
days of September. One. Whybecause September first is the opening day and
always has been since I can remember, and that's a pretty long time opening
day of dove season. Doves don'tlike wet feet, So all the places

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getting off track here. It's gonnabe hot for a long time. Get
over it and get with it,and just get on through it without having
to endure hopefully rolling blackouts in themiddle of the afternoon this summer. I'm

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the last five years, let's callit. If they can't, they can't
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for that, none whatsoever. Maybewe should build more windmills. Maybe we

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should put up more solar panels.That'll work. No, it won't.
All right. If you're wondering,by the way, about that little tropical
disturbance that earned a yellow X yesterday, it's chances of development now have been
reduced by the National Hurricane Center tooh, I don't know, zero zero.

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So another day we're going to getthrough without any named storm, and
every day counts this time of year, one at a time. Market's mostly
flat. I'll run through this quickly, as I always do. At the
beginning of the program, oil isup about a buck, I think,
which had to be expected after theSaudi's trimmed production by a million barrels a

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day. Must be nice to walkaway from seventy two million dollars a day
from trimming just a little fraction offyour production overall. That they didn't.
They don't skip a beat losing seventytwo million dollars a day, not at
all. Let's not get into that. Instead, let's talk about yet another
idiotic idea coming out of the WhiteHouse now. In addition to going after

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gas stoves, which has kind ofbeen on a back burner pun intended for
a while now also idiotic, thePresident is now talking about taking away most
of our gas furnaces in our homesin the next few years. He wants
to ramp up the efficiency of thosethings, and by gosh, he's gonna

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do that in the name of greenenergy, going green. That's why we're
gonna do this. That's why weare going to take the furnaces out of
where's the number I had in herebetween four This is in the next three
years. He wants the furnaces thatare currently operating in between forty and sixty

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percent of current residential homes. Roughlyhalf of the gas heaters in these homes
now would be prohibited under the newregulation. Think about that for a minute.
Instead of knee. He's going afterair conditioners two, and he wants
us to all drive electric cars andpay twice what we paid two years ago

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for groceries. What I used toget for about one hundred bucks at the
grocery store, maybe one hundred andtwenty five or so. Just this past
week I made a similar run andwalked out of their two hundred and ninety
two dollars lighter, and that waswith two one dollar coupons instead of knee

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jerk rules on these heaters. Bythe way, the American Gas Association,
which supplies gas by the way tomore than seventy four million households in this
country, they recommended that the newstandards be brought in gradually, kind of
like emissions and mileage things for cars. That would give the industry time to

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develop the new technology to run withmaximum efficiency. But our president doesn't really
care about that, because honestly,I don't think he understands the repercussions to
American people of what he's proposing here. I had to replace my air conditioner
an upstairs furnace just earlier this yearand paid about thirty percent more, just

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because of a new law that madelast year's air conditioners obsolete just with a
stroke of a pen, all theinventory that was left over on last year's
standards, which were good enough forlast year, every one of those air
conditioners became paper weights thanks to asignature on a piece of paper that makes

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very little, if any sense.Very frustrating to deal with this, It
really is very frustrating. I'll tellyou what. We're gonna take a little
break here. When we come back. I'm going to probably well, no,
I know what I'll be doing.I'll be talking to doctor Andrea Taylor
about post traumatic stress disorder PTSD andhow it affects more than just combat soldiers

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this segment. As any of youwho saw my Facebook post will probably realize

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we're going to talk about a conditionmost closely associated with returning combat veterans,
but one that also impacts regular oldcivilians who endure traumatic events. It's had
numerous, mostly inaccurate or incomplete namesthroughout the past, but at present we
call it post traumatic stress disorder.To explain how PTSD impacts people, I'll

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bring in doctor Andrea Taylor, assistantprofessor in the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral
Sciences at UT Health Houston. Goodafternoon, doctor, Good afternoon, Doug.
Thanks for having me. Oh absolutely, I appreciate you doing this for
us. I saw in the infohow he sent me about nine million Americans
suffer from diagnosed cases of PTSD.What percentage of those people would you think

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have never seen combat? These arejust civilians who've undergone some horrible traumatic event.
Sure. Well, what we knowis that in the general population,
we have about six percent of peopleof adults who will have PTSD in their
life, civilians, that's civilians.In our veteran population, it's about seven

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percent, So it's it's it's kindof equal but slightly more in our vets,
but just our general day to daypeople, it's actually pretty common.
You know, it stands to reasonreally that there are people in this country
who probably have witnessed something horrific andmaybe who do have PTSD but either don't
realize it even or don't want toaddress it. Is that a fair statement.
That is a very fair statement.And we encounter that all the time.

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It's estimated that about sixty percent offolks will experience some sort of trauma
over the course of their lifetimes.And you know, again a certain percentage
some recover from that over time,but a certain percentage do go on to
have PTSD. And as you pointit out, many either just don't know
it, or they think it's onlysomething you know, that combat veterans can

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have, or again they don't wantto acknowledge it. Yeah, I'm glad
you're doing that too. Yeah.So, what talk about some of the
events in a senior's life that mighttrigger the onset of PTSD. Sure.
So, Actually, the interesting thingabout the onset of PTSD is that it
can be right after the event,or it can be long, many years
and even decades after. So fora senior, I think of things.

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It could even include things that goback to childhood, childhood abuse or in
earlier relationships. Unfortunately, we haveseniors who are experiencing ongoing abuse, elder
abuse, and those things can leadto PTSD. Traumatic health and medical experiences.

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That's one of the things that wesee in in our seniors as they're
addressing you know, sometimes unexpected healthdiagnoses or just very negative medical EXPERI Variance
says, but also things with tremendoussafety threats. These could be serious car
accidents, hurricanes, you know,I was just gonna say, yeah,
Hurricane Harvey certainly had to have putsome people in absolutely, hurricanes, tornadoes,

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you know, with hurricane season comingup, it's something that I think
about. But the other thing isthat sometimes even the death of a loved
one, especially if somebody was present, can lead to PTSD. So those
are just some of the ones thatI think of when I think of our
senior population. That's a lot ofdifferent ways that somebody could be And what
I wasn't really thinking of when Istarted this conversation. I'm glad you brought

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it up, is it's not goingit's gonna happen tomorrow. After the event
it can that's just sitting in there, festering and until it rears its ugly
head, and when it first rearsits ugly head, you may not even
know what's causing it. Is thatcorrect? That is absolutely crutch. And
I've I've seen so many cases we'rekind of it was lying dormant and then

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something happened in the boom, it'sthere, and it's really having a negative
impact on somebody's life and their familyand their functioning. And again they just
don't even know what it is sohorribly raw, and to not really know
what's causing it, that would bejust have to be frightening. June PTSD
Awareness a Month Doctor Andrea Taylor,So let's make this audience aware of outward

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symptoms in case either they or maybesomebody they know is exhibiting those. Sure,
absolutely so. A lot of peoplereport having think of it as an
intrusive symptoms. Symptoms were times whereyou remember the experience that you don't want
to in an unlined way, sounwanted memories, maybe nightmares for some people,

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feeling constantly on guard, having difficultyconcentrating, being very irritable, changes
in mood, and we see alot of avoidance. It's a lot of
avoidance that things that you know,things that remind people of the trauma avoidance
of things that you know, oh, if I go down this street,

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if I get on the highway,I might have another accident. So these
things actually impact day to day functioningas well as relationships and even how the
person feels about themselves. But thegood thing is that these are things that
can actually be addressed if people feellike they can and they're supported in doing
so. The treatment, let's talkabout the treatment of PTSD for a minute.

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Is this something that needs to bedone in a facility somewhere else.
Do people have to go away tobe treated for PTSD or can they do
that with their doctors and continue livingtheir lives. They can, for most
people, they can do it withtheir doctors and continue living their life.
And one of the really great things, so we have a lot of really

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very well developed and tested therapies.You know, these are are are based
on research, they've been tested,a lot of them were tested within the
VA system and with and you know, sometimes the therapies can be done alone
or in conjunction with a medication.But the nice thing is that you know,
if you have a well trained provider, because it's specialized treatment, that

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they can be done, you know, with your provider, you don't necessarily
have to You usually don't have togo in patient. And we actually have
treatments now that we're developed delivering viatelehealth. These are people who, yeah,
who can do this, you know, from the comfort of their home.
Um they can use an internet platformif they don't have, you know,

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treatment providers nearby who are well trained, who they can you know,
drive to an access um. Andsometimes people just have a lot of health
difficulties as well, and it's hardfor them to get out of the house
and get to providers. So ifyou have a very well trained provider who
can do it via telehealth or inperson, then you know you're in a
good position. That's believe it ornot. We're almost out of time.

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That's I think the quality of thehelp they receive is just tremendously important,
more so than the amount. It'sthe quality, not the quantity of the
help. Absolutely, Doctor Andrea Taylor, thank you so very much for this.
I wish we had another twenty minutesto go, I really do,
and maybe we'll have to resume thisconversation again sometime. Well, thank you

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so much for addressing us and anytimeyou want me to come back, I'm
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Pike. All right, welcome backto fifty plus. I'm Douge's will and

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thanks, as always for your timein the middle of your day. We're
gonna talk in this segment about somethingthat impacts far more than a few of
us. Stressers are everywhere. Crazydrivers, crazy prices at the grocery store,
summer heat bearing down storm season.But we can get through it,
says my next guest, with arelative few simple steps to keep things in

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perspective and remain forward focused, sosays Houston psychotherapist Joe Robin Pain, who
joins us. Now, thank youfor your time, Jill, thanks for
having me. Doug. I'm lookingforward to this one because my hands in
the air. I'm stressed all thetime. I've got so much going on.
What percentage of seniors in and aroundHouston would you think experience above average

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stress on a daily basis, Sowe're gonna say eighty seven percent. And
that was a study done after duringCOVID. So stresses up and it continues
to go because we have that collectivetrauma. And plus I was emailing you

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about how just even heat triggers anxiety. So if only stress could go the
way of the stock market, andthe market could go the way of stress,
right really? And that now thething is stress is great. That
gets you to perform great. Itis because it gets you to perform great
on your show. Okay, ifwe did not put if we did not

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put any pressure on a pen,it wouldn't work. The problem is,
yeah, the problem is is wehave too much. We're on twenty four
to seven. I don't know ifyou remember the day, Doug, when
TV had this little cross or somethingand at twelve o'clock overdone. Yeah,

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we don't have that anymore, sowe don't know when to stop. So
yeah, So the big thing isyeah, So the big thing is I
tell my clients put a red rubberband on your wrist to remember to say
no and just sort of stop andstay in the here and now, because
we just get so caught up inthe news and what's going on in social

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media. If you're gaming, yourkids are doing this, and you've got
parents going through this, and sometimeswe just need to stop up and smell
the roses. We need to remindit. So to help all of these
people, let's get into some ofthe suggestions you have to make day to
day crazy a little more tolerable.Is there is there a number one stress

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reducer jail or do they all justbelong in a good stress reduction toolbox.
I'm going to tell you the numberone is okay to breathe. That is
physical, So breathing what however,we're breathing and we're not really listening to
our breath. That tells our brainhow we're feeling. So when it is
shallow and irregular, it's telling ourbrain that we're a little anxious. So

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if we could do three to fivedeep breaths just like this, you breathe
in through your nose, out throughyour mouth. I'm doing it now.
Well, you can do it atstop like you can do it in the
bathroom. You can do it anywhereand you will get immediate relaxation. You
can't do it if you call astranger at two o'clock in the morning,

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that would be bad. Well,you don't need anybody to do this.
So there you go, and andand then exercise. So I tell people
because exercise just gets people to cringe, so I just say movement. And
there's something called hope molecules that decreasesthat cortisol, that stress hormone. And
even you can sit in your chairand wave your arms around as long as

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you're using muscle movement, that willimmediately help you. So those are two
big things. And get a hug. If you get a hug for ten
seconds, it reduces your cortisol.Really, it's fun. Yeah, I
can't wait to that's good. Well, do you know my hubby and I
we do that every once in awhile, and it's sure do it for

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ten seconds, Doug. It's reallyit's it's different. It's a long time.
Yeah, it is, and Ibelieve you. Believe you. H
Yeah. I noticed in the informationyou set in me that you talk about
as far as the exercise go,you're talking about dancing around the house to
music. No, that's why youvacuum or do the longer. I love
that idea. I'd never thought ofthat. That's one of the things I've

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never seen before on this show,and it's rare, but I love the
idea. I really do well whenyou're when you're doing an activity, it's
all a mindset. If you're doingit and you're thinking it's drudgery, therefore
it is. If you're doing it, If you're doing it with a mindset
saying, hey, this is funand it's temporary, then therefore it'll be
fun. As a bonus, ifI dance around the house and maybe I'll

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sing the song to the radio whileI'm walking around, it's gonna drive my
fifteen year old son absolutely crazy,So there's that little benefit as well.
He's got it come and go,you know, there you go, you
get a job. Yeah, wellwe'll get even Jill Robin paying on fifty
plus talk about the importance also Jillof a support system of people you can

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call or visit, just to sharethat human interaction. Right. Well,
we're social beings, so we needtouch. We need to have that physical
presence of someone. If you can'tdo that, the next best thing is
just calling a friend and hearing theirvoice. Texting is the least intimate of
anything. So whoever you even ifyou can call someone like me or a

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professor, someone, it doesn't evenneed to be a family member or a
friend. We need to have connectionand talking. People want to be heard.
That's one of the problems in today. We're not feeling heard. And
so that's get a friend, geta person, connect, join a group,
get on a sports team, youknow, join some type of club,

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and you can just stand there andbe with somebody and you'll get that
feel and eventually it'll grow into ahealthy support system. Some people go to
churches, things like that. Allthese things are support systems. You know,
I just thought of something. Whenyou when you speak of making a
phone call and talking to somebody,take yourself back twenty years to the time

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when if you had a problem witha product or something, you could call
and somebody would answer the phone andhear your problem with that. Now we
just have to fill out a littleform online. We don't get to talk
to anybody. We don't get tohear an interactive voice with us. I
wonder if that in some way shape, just some tiny little percentage of stress
it has been has evolved from thelack of personal attention. We get right,

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it is and I tell people,go where this sugar is something like
that happen. Yeah. If somethinghappens like that to you, Doug,
instead of yelling and screaming about it, go talk to your mate, call
up a friend and discuss about itand make fun of it, because humor
is the best medicine. Like that. It's laughing about things. Yea,
yeah, I think some kind ofcorny. She didn't like about half my

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jokes, but that's okay. She'sa really tough room. Let me tell
you what she must She's with you, well, yeah, for thirty three
years, so I'm doing something right. Yeah. Yeah. The two hour
rule. Talk about that. We'vegot about two minutes to deal with.
The two hour rule. Okay,very important. People think if they exercise

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before bed or watch TV before bed, that's calming. It actually isn't.
If you use any of these electronics, your brain perceives it as daytime,
and so the melotonin doesn't work,and it's gonna it lasts for a couple
of hours, even after you havethe screen on. So turn the screen
off at least two hours before bed, if not three. And so if

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you argue, that's not a goodtime to do it right before bed,
So two hours before bedrule is youjust don't eat sugar, anything that's going
to hype you up. Refrain fromdoing it. It's better to do it
way before. And so this wayyou can chill before bed, maybe do
some relaxation exercises, read a boringbook, something that'll just sort of calm

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you down. You know, I'mso guilty of that. I'll sit up
there and watch TV until about tenfifteen to thirty, and then I go
to bed. And the last thingI do before bet in my favor is
I've got this little mindfulness thing thatI play every night. It's some mental
vacation. It's it's one of justa little it's about a three minute thing

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of talking. And that three minutesof talking, I almost never hear the
end of it. I'm out likea light. Yeah, But if I
were to just shut down the TVat nine and find something now, See,
I gotta get the astros to playearlier though I'm good when they're on
day games. Have a hard timewith that. That's gonna be my guilty

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pleasure. Joe, Thank you sovery much, Joe Robin Pain. It's
been really an honor and a pleasureto speak with you. And I may
call on you again sometime if youdon't mind. I would love that thanky.
Thank you. All right, thereyou go, relieve the stress,
relieve the stress in your life,and you'll feel so much better. Let

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Sleepy. Back to Doug Pike asfifty plus continues. All right,
welcome back to fifty plus. Finalsegment of the program kicks off. Now
it's got an email from from aclient. Then when are my spots running?

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I'm looking in the day parts,but those dayparts are pretty wide,
so I'm gonna do for him isand we can do this, by the
way, we can get a moreprecise and even with the precise timing,
sometimes they don't run exactly. Thenthings get moved around. Will was just
talking to me about an adjustment we'vehad to make on the fly in today's
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care of you. Dougpike at iHeartMediadot com. So White House Press Secretary
this popped yesterday, but I didn'thave time. White House Press Secretary Karin
Jumpierre caught a lot of heat thisweek for the hypocrisy in her statement in
a nutshell. What she said wasthat transporting immigrants into non border states puts

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pressure on those states and the citiesto which those people are being sent.
So it's okay, Korean Jean Pierreto let's six people, six million people
wander into Texas and Arizona, California. It's okay, that's okay, but

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they just can't go anywhere from there. They have to stay here and become
a burden on us rather than thiscountry. Since it is a national issue,
why shouldn't the country equally share allof them, equally take care of
all of them. I heard oneof the some sanctuary city person last night,

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Oh, yeah, we're gonna welcomethese people. It's not going to
be a problem at all. Andthey've had I want to say, thirty
five show up so far. Waittill it's thirty five thousand, and see
how enthusiastic they are. It's soincredibly insulting to the American people that she
would say even anything like that,anything like that, are flying and busting

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very small fractions of those immigrants toso called sanctuary cities, and they just
don't like it. They're welcome,They're always welcome, right up until the
time they arrive, and at thatpoint they have to swallow their they just
choke on the words help and NewYork at it again. Mayor Eric Adams

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now asking churches and even private citizensto house incoming migrants for pay. He's
playing to the churches based on thebelief in most faith that caring for those
in need is somehow a god instructedmandate. And caring for the needy,
yes, that's an important aspect ofa lot of religion, and I'm all

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for that. However, I wouldlike to offer that maybe we should start
sheltering and feeding our own poor,in our own needy in this country before
we keep handing off free cell phonesand free healthcare and free everything, free

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housing, free food, free everythingto people who have come here. And
frankly, I don't have a problemwith sending them on through to places where
we've been told they're welcome, becausewe just can't handle anymore. I don't
think. Not here in Texas,I think we're kind of full. We're

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kind of full Adams and scrambling fora plan. I think that will just
keep him in office somehow. Outon the West Coast, Governor Knewsome ranting
about the arrival of migrants in hisstate and not millions like I was talking
about, like we've absorbed, butjust a few thousand. He's he's been
saved or rattling an awful lot.But to borrow a Texas phrase, I

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got a hunch he's all had nocattle on this one. The Left played
a really dangerous game, allowing oursouthern border to stay wide open for millions
of people about whom we know verylittle, but to whom we're giving everything
that tens of millions of Americans don'thave a it's a bluff. They know
it too. They know it.They're just trying to squeeze money out of

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Washington, and they think that yellingthe loudest is going to get them what
they want. The only trouble isthat this nation's pendulum, it looks like
it's swinging back in a different directionthese days, near and nearer the position
where where yelling is not going towork anymore. Back to independent thought and
rational discussion and unapologetic determination to regainthis country's strengths and limit its weaknesses.

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Mercy, let's go, well,let's go to something different. I'll give
you hold on. Where's the newone from today? I've already got such
I got a ton of stuff todo for Friday. I can't wait for
Friday. Send the kids to camp? Hello, a room service or no
longer shocking, send the kids tocamp. When the postal service first began

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shipping packages will. A few parentsactually managed to mail their kids. They
put them in a box, tapeit up, poke a few holes in
it for air, kind of likeyou catching I don't know, June bugs
in a jar and send them onout. And here this is a curious

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this one. You'll get this answerright, and I want you to really
think about it for I'll give youfive seconds. What is the only continent
that's in all four hemispheres? Itshouldn't take long. Think it, think
it through. I'm gonna go withIs it Africa? Absolutely? Yeah.

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I had all the confidence in youin the world. I had no doubt
in my mind that you would figurethat out. You can rule You can
rule most of them out immediately becausethey're either way up here or way down
there. It's the round and roundthing that might get you. And the
only one that's even way up hereand way down there, well maybe Europe,
I don't know. All right.There was a list from hotels dot

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com or the most unusual room servicerequests. Melted ice cream is on there.
Somebody asked for that blowfish. Theyactually eat blowfish in other parts of
the world, so that one doesn'tamaze me. Or confuse me. Here's
one for you. How about somebodycalling up and asking for somebody to send
up some diet water. You wantsome of that? I don't. All

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right, we'll be back tomorrow.We've got more good stuff. Then stick
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