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Speaker 1 (00:00):
First Date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury
Attorneys online at Advocates Law dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Caleb is on the phone today for a first day
follow up and he's getting ghosted from a date that
he went on with a woman named McKenna. In a
few minutes, we'll call her in social house why she's
ghosting him. But first, Caleb, how long has it been
since you heard from McKenna.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
Well, let's see, I guess it's been It's been about
a week now. Yeah, since I heard we left things.
I mean, as far as I thought, we left things
pretty good. We had actually texted that same day later
to hang out again. She's seemed excited.
Speaker 4 (00:37):
I don't know. I don't know why it's been a week.
Speaker 5 (00:39):
So well, then let's go backwards, because you did have
an interaction with her that sounded good.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
So when how did you meet her? What was your
date like?
Speaker 4 (00:49):
Well, the date was great.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Well, I met her actually at a at a work
event several years.
Speaker 4 (00:54):
Ago and we went on a date back then. We
I guess.
Speaker 6 (01:01):
I know, I wasn't really looking for anything serious.
Speaker 4 (01:03):
At the time. I had some family well and some
work stuff going.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
On, and I could tell she's thing busy, but we
we had a great time, had some drinks.
Speaker 4 (01:13):
There was I thought, some chemistry, and.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Uh wound up just kind of hanging out for the
night and.
Speaker 4 (01:20):
That was it just sort of lost touch. But at
this point, you know, I guess it's been I guess
it'd been almost six years.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
I reached back out just to see what she was
up to and if she wanted to meet up, and
she said yes.
Speaker 4 (01:36):
I thought we had a great night.
Speaker 3 (01:38):
We did some bar hopping, had some food. She had
to me drinks that night, I do remember. So she
wound up coming and staying at my place, but it
was innocent. I mean, we hung out, there was some cuddling.
Speaker 4 (01:53):
Some kisses whatever.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Thought she left in the morning, Yeah, I had some
coffee and I thought we were going to do this again.
Speaker 4 (02:01):
And then I just did not hear back from her.
And I'm so confused.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
So did she say that she wanted to do it again? Yeah?
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Yeah, I mean in the last text we were she
was it was like she was just waiting for me
to reach out and kind of plan something. And then
when I reached bright out, I just never heard anything.
Speaker 2 (02:20):
Is there anything you can think of? There would be
a reason to get ghosted.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
I've racked my brain, like I saw, I guess I
had so my ex girlfriend, which has been months and
months ago.
Speaker 4 (02:35):
I know she had left some stuff in the apartment.
I got rid of a lot of.
Speaker 6 (02:38):
It, but I did I noticed a couple of days
ago there's like.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
A pretty yodoran stick was still like in that side
drawer that I usually keep open. So like maybe she saw.
Speaker 6 (02:48):
That and thought something was going on.
Speaker 4 (02:49):
But I'm kind of grasping a straws. I mean, I
just I don't know.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
I've seen shampoo in the shower before that was a
woman's and I was like, I don't know about all this.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Really, Yeah, it make me feel good. Yeah, that could
be a reason.
Speaker 6 (03:02):
I get I get that.
Speaker 4 (03:04):
It's just she could have.
Speaker 2 (03:06):
Asked, yeah, well, we'll see if we can figure it
out for you. Then we'll play a song come back,
and then call her and see if she'll tell us
why she's ghosting you and get you maybe get you
another date. Okay, cool, thank you, all right, we'll play
a song, come back and get your first day follow
up next.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
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Speaker 2 (03:38):
Right in the middle of your first day follow up
if you're just joining us. Caleb is on the phone
and he's getting ghosted by McKenna. So in a second,
we're gonna call her and see if she tell us
why she's ghosting him and maybe get him another date.
But first, Caleb, why don't you refresh our memory on
her date with McKenna.
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, so McKenna and I had a great date. This
was the second time I reached out of here years ago.
Timing wasn't right, but yeah, I thought we really hit
it off on this last this last date, and she
wound up coming to stay in the night. Everything seemed cool.
We had plans to move forward, and then it's been
a week now.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
And I cannot get in touch with her. So I
don't know.
Speaker 3 (04:14):
I I my ex girlfriend had left some stuff at
the house, like deodorant something. Maybe maybe that had something
to do with it. She saw that and got some ideas.
But I'm racking my brain just trying to figure out
because we had a great time, chemistry was there. Just
haven't heard her.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
All right, are you ready for us to call her?
Speaker 4 (04:32):
Uh?
Speaker 7 (04:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 8 (04:33):
Yeah, Okay, here we go. Hello, Hi, mansweek to McKenna.
Speaker 2 (04:50):
Please. This is McKenna. McKenna, how are you? This is Jeubil.
I'm calling from a radio show. It's called The Jubil Show.
Him McKenna. I'm Nina also on the show. Hi, and
I'm Victoria.
Speaker 8 (05:01):
Hi.
Speaker 2 (05:02):
How are you?
Speaker 9 (05:03):
I'm good.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Have you ever listened to the show before?
Speaker 7 (05:08):
I yes, I've listened to it, so I'm just curious
what's going on?
Speaker 2 (05:12):
Okay, Well, we do a segment called the First Day
follow Up. That's where if you go out with somebody
on a date and you ghost them, they can email
us to get you on the phone and ask you
why you're ghosting them. Oh yeah, do you have any
idea who would ask us to call you?
Speaker 7 (05:28):
I have some thoughts, but I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 2 (05:32):
His name is Caleb. Was that your thoughts?
Speaker 9 (05:36):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (05:37):
Caleb emailed us told us about your date. They said
he had a great time and he's wondering why you're
not calling him back.
Speaker 7 (05:43):
I mean, we did have a great time, and you know,
I had liked him before when we met at a
work party years before, and so I was excited to
hear from him.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And we went to.
Speaker 7 (05:56):
A bunch of bars and I had a little too
much to drink and he was really kind of nash
and took care of me and I had a great time,
and you know, you want to kind of follow up
what people have done up to and so it just
happened to have seen his ig like the night before
we went out, and then afterwards, I just wanted to
(06:18):
see if there was anything on there, and I noticed
that he had followed a bunch of people, and so
when I looked to see it, he randomly followed like
ten bikini models. And I showed it to my girlfriend
and she said, it's like a red flag. And so
I'm just really not about that vibe.
Speaker 9 (06:37):
If that's what he wants, then that's fine.
Speaker 7 (06:40):
I don't need to, you know, get involved with someone
who's about that.
Speaker 4 (06:44):
Wait are you are you stalking me?
Speaker 2 (06:47):
That's Caleb. Caleb is actually on the phone listening and
lets to talk to you.
Speaker 3 (06:53):
Wait, yeah, you're on my Instagram looking at who I'm following.
Speaker 4 (06:58):
What is that about?
Speaker 7 (07:00):
Is I haven't seen you in six years? And pop
into my DM and of course I'm gonna look at
your I G It's normal and.
Speaker 4 (07:07):
Well, as you know, following people on Instagram.
Speaker 6 (07:12):
I don't understand me.
Speaker 7 (07:13):
A bikini all bikini models like you know that after
you spent time with me and we had a good time,
and your go to is to go follow bikini models.
Speaker 4 (07:24):
No, all that is is eye candy. It it doesn't
even mean anything. It's just yeah, it's what guys do.
Speaker 7 (07:31):
I'm a guy that after spending time with me.
Speaker 9 (07:35):
Yes, you're you're correct, a typical guy.
Speaker 7 (07:38):
So that's what I don't want is a typical guy
who's gonna follow bikini models after spending time with me.
Speaker 3 (07:47):
Okay, well I probably don't need somebody policing what I
can look at and interact with.
Speaker 4 (07:53):
I thought we had a great time together.
Speaker 9 (07:56):
It happened rely.
Speaker 7 (07:58):
I thought you were asorable, and then I just noticed
and it was what people do when you haven't seen
each other for six years is to see.
Speaker 9 (08:07):
And you're the one that DM me on your accounts.
Of course I'm going to look at.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Your I why are you following beginning models?
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Well, in my defense, I after our date, I went
hung out.
Speaker 4 (08:19):
With my buddies and Nick was there. I told you
about Nick.
Speaker 3 (08:23):
We were all watching some of the old older Olympics,
like videos and stuff. And that got us looking on Instagram,
and one of my friends grabbed my phone and clicked
a bunch of them.
Speaker 4 (08:35):
I didn't realize I was following them anyway.
Speaker 3 (08:37):
But if I follow them, that shouldn't be a problem.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
It's just what, guys.
Speaker 7 (08:41):
Do you Your guy friend followed fifteen bikini models all
at the same time, and he just happened to go through.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
That all at the same well, I mean he added
some and then we were going through I added some.
It didn't it was just stupid. Were just looking at
girls and I was honestly so excited about the date.
That's how it all started. As I was talking about you,
and I showed them a photo and that's where they
followed that.
Speaker 5 (09:10):
McKenna, What is it about these bikini models that's making
you so upset?
Speaker 7 (09:15):
I mean, it's just like, I don't know. I just
it was literally after our date. I like, yeah, it's
the timing of it. And so then it just seems
like he's not serious. I'm looking for someone serious. If
he wants eye candy, go get the eye candy. I mean,
I believe, like I'm a beautiful woman and I deserve
someone whose attention is on and not on bikini models
(09:37):
that he may never ever meet.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
She wants to be your eye candy.
Speaker 4 (09:40):
Caleb McKenna, you are my eye candy.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
These girls on Instagram it's all fake anyway, it doesn't
add up to anything.
Speaker 4 (09:49):
It's a pipe dream.
Speaker 7 (09:50):
You're the real deal me that it doesn't make to
do that immediately after our date, Like, why would you
do that? I mean you had a great time. It
just ruined my perception of you. If that is what
is more important to you? Is this eye candy girls?
Like there, it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (10:08):
It wasn't.
Speaker 9 (10:09):
It wasn't just morning. It was like, it's not like
a million to the fifteen.
Speaker 3 (10:13):
Well you, I mean, yeah, I followed. I followed some girls,
but you followed Christiansworth, Like right after our day.
Speaker 2 (10:21):
How do you know that?
Speaker 9 (10:23):
So you looked at my account? Is that what you're saying?
Speaker 7 (10:27):
After years told me crap about looking at your account,
so you brought itself.
Speaker 4 (10:36):
It didn't actually bother me.
Speaker 7 (10:40):
But you're throwing it back in my face something that
you said that was wrong for me to do. You
were throwing it back in my face.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
It's kind of cute. Guys, you're stalking each other. It's
like you guys have been together for a while. McKenna,
Would you like another day with Caleb will pay for it?
Speaker 7 (10:55):
No?
Speaker 9 (10:55):
I don't think so.
Speaker 7 (10:56):
I mean, if that's his go to right after a
date like I, you know, I don't need to be
worrying about if he's looking at other girls, that's what
I don't want to be worrying about.
Speaker 9 (11:06):
And if that's his immediate.
Speaker 7 (11:07):
Reaction after our first date, then I don't want that
kind of energy.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
So he made you feel insecure right away?
Speaker 7 (11:16):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I'm pretty secure, But if
that's what your go to is after our date, like,
that's not the energy that I want. I, for one.
Speaker 3 (11:26):
Don't need my social interactions micromanaged. And it does sound
like an insecurity issue to me, which shouldn't exist, but
that's what it sounds like.
Speaker 9 (11:35):
Well, good luck to you with those bikini models girls.
Speaker 4 (11:38):
Yeah mckennaugh, thank you, and good luck with Chris Hemsworth.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
I really think you guys should go on another day.
Speaker 4 (11:46):
Jubile's first Date full