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March 18, 2021 44 min

Ali gets personal with actress, producer, author, activist and feminist Marlo Thomas about her 40-year marriage to TV talk show host Phil Donahue. It was a marriage she wasn’t looking for and never saw coming, but as Marlo says, “He just became essential and I couldn’t live without him.” Well, it’s one thing to find your irreplaceable person, but how do you defy the odds through the ups and downs? Having interviewed 40 celebrated couples for their book “What Makes a Marriage Last” – Marlo is peeling back the curtain to share the secrets to a partnership that works. // Marlo and Phil are also co-hosts of the podcast “Double Date.” //

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