Golfin' Around - August 16, 2025

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Speaker 7 (02:15):
Yeah, Team USA, Welcome to the twenty twenty five Team
USA Versus Team Scotland Amateur Golf Championships. Behind me is
Team USA. Well, they're in for a challenge this week
as they play some of the finest golf courses in
all of Saint Andrews. And of course, the last two
years the boys from Team Scotland have won the trophy,

(02:39):
So hopefully these guys behind me can bring it home
for Team USA this year as they stand on the
hollow grounds of Saint Andrews. Who is the fat guy
standing in front of the bridge. I mean they got
fat guy ruined the whole nice picture there in Saint Andrews.

Speaker 8 (02:58):
Yeah, I've got I could have made you a little
skinnier if I had I known.

Speaker 9 (03:03):
Yeah, Nick, next time, Next time. But you've got a
lot of stuff going on. And now how you got
six people that participate in during this tournament.

Speaker 3 (03:14):
Actually it's five flight winners.

Speaker 7 (03:18):
And what we've had over the last few years Bill
and Greg is immediately people go, hey, can my uncle
come with me? Can my brother come with me? Can
my wife come from me? Six guys you see on
the bridge? Are we had our five winners?

Speaker 4 (03:37):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (03:38):
Then a great guy, Jim Lawler, who won the very
first year, said can I just come on the trip
this year? That's the kind of enthusiasm the event is growing.
The official name is Team USA versus Team Scotland Amateur
Golf Championship.

Speaker 4 (04:00):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (04:02):
What we do is this, guys, and I appreciate you
having me on today. We make it very easy to
play in our events, whether it's a local qualifier or
a national championship.

Speaker 10 (04:14):
You do not need a USGA gain handicap to play
in one of five flights. We've crafted a scoring system
which we believe pretty much eliminates cheating and sandbagging without
having to have a USGA handicap. If you know what

(04:35):
Greg probably knows peoria scoring holes, right, Greg and I
don't know how a sociopath thinks. But guys that are
sandbaggers and cheaters, you know, it's really hard when they
don't know what the what.

Speaker 7 (04:53):
The six holes are? Oh nice, okay, yeah, so they.

Speaker 9 (04:58):
Play eighteen and six holes count, that's right, and you
don't tell them which holes count.

Speaker 7 (05:04):
Absolutely not that In our locals, we just play one round. Yes,
those guys that win their flights and the locals win
entry into the national championship. Yeah, we're excited, you know.
We actually this is our fourth season. Greg will miss
you and Canton and Akron, but you're.

Speaker 3 (05:26):
Going to Cabos, so don't complain.

Speaker 7 (05:28):
Man.

Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well, he really want to do it, you know.

Speaker 9 (05:32):
I mean we want to help and participate in sharing
that fun doing it with you. And I'm sure we'll
work with you more in the future on getting those events,
maybe the local events and stuff like that. But that
has to be exciting. I mean, watching those boys get
out there and fight, fight, fight on for that opportunity
has to be amazing because, you know, minus the sandbangers,

(05:55):
because we see that everywhere.

Speaker 8 (05:56):
But it has Maybe I need to go and carry
cameras next time.

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Hey, a couple of me our media friends, Fred Alvader
Brian Weiss have been on a few trips. We also
have Team USA versus Team Ireland, which is growing, and
we're also adding Team USA versus Team Caribbean. You know, guys,
to take a step back. With the Saint Andrews event,

(06:22):
I call it the greatest prize in amateur golf. Amateur
golfers hackers like us. We have a flight. Our top
flight is twenty one and over sixteen to twenty thirteen,
you know, handicaps. We have the one to five flight.
Most of our golfers come from the higher handicaps. Yes,

(06:43):
and there's no tournament out there for average Joe golfers
where they're going to win a trip to go to
Saint Andrews, Scotland. Yeah, it's been really fun making dreams
come true for guys. You know, it's I've been on
the bridge many times now and it's still overwhelming. It's

(07:05):
surreal to me. I just enjoy stepping back and looking
at the joy on the guy's faces all week. Yeah,
you know, it's it's a wonderful event. We actually have
already just signed two weeks ago where our national championship
in twenty twenty six next year our.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
Fifth year our fifth year. Wow, I'm not going to like,
you guys have some secrets going on.

Speaker 7 (07:32):
We got to keep it under the belt a little
bit now. But it just speaks testaments that you know,
we're already set up and ready for the fifth year
to really really expand. So I'm excited.

Speaker 9 (07:46):
Yeah, now you have you have five participants. Are you
looking to expand those groups or is it going to
stick with that five man's you know, Team USA.

Speaker 7 (07:55):
No, we'll keep it at five. The flights are one
to five, okay, the really good guys, yeah, you know,
six to ten, then you get in eleven to fifteen. Yeah.
Like I said, a lot of our golfers come from
the higher handicaps because that's the average golfer out.

Speaker 9 (08:15):
Yeah, and it has to be exciting and make it
more How you're gonna have less of people were like,
oh my god, that guy cheated, I did this and
did that, because there's really no way with just the
six holes in that handicap bracket the way you're creating it.
So it really levels the playing field for the people
that know what's coming and then try to adjust to

(08:38):
make it simpler because we I mean, we all know it.
People do it in all kinds of tournaments. So you know,
who doesn't want a change you're gonna have. You're gonna
have people wanting to go out there and hey, I
got it just as well as chance with an eighteen
handicap as the guy with the five handicap. So we
just got to go out there play and do our best.
So you have Caribbean possibly coming up soon. Correct, now

(09:01):
when you do all this goldies and start adding, is
it going to be?

Speaker 7 (09:06):
Hold on?

Speaker 4 (09:06):
It's Batman, call him.

Speaker 3 (09:10):
I'm busy.

Speaker 4 (09:11):
Okay, okay, up on, Batman?

Speaker 7 (09:15):
All right, go ahead. You know when you're see I
have my Billy knows this Greg during the football season,
I become steeler Man.

Speaker 4 (09:24):
I told him, tape.

Speaker 3 (09:26):
And nylons and run around. It's not pretty at all.
Now the football season starting.

Speaker 8 (09:32):
Thanks thanks for sharing that into my brain.

Speaker 9 (09:34):
That's not I'm still away from my football but it's okay,
you know, yeh stealer man underwear.

Speaker 7 (09:40):
I'll send you a pair card.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
Not used though, that's good cheaper.

Speaker 8 (09:49):
So do you actually have local qualifiers to get to
the national?

Speaker 1 (09:56):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (09:57):
Yes, you know what we try to do is like
this year, we're in Canton August twenty third, twenty fourth.
I urge people to go to USA Scotland Golf dot
com USA Scotland Golf dot Com to register. We still
have spots, so.

Speaker 3 (10:13):
We do have local qualifiers.

Speaker 7 (10:15):
Then we have direct buy into the national championship as well,
so that combination has worked.

Speaker 9 (10:23):
Oh okay, So everything that's happening now is for twenty
twenty six.

Speaker 3 (10:29):
Well, yes, correct.

Speaker 7 (10:31):
The five winners in Canton will be presented with the
Sword of Champions, continuing on with the Scottish and Irish
and Celtic theme.

Speaker 3 (10:41):
The trophy for each of those players is a sword.

Speaker 7 (10:44):
Okay. Those five winners in Canton, OHI will be in
standing on the bridge on April twelfth, twenty twenty six.

Speaker 9 (10:54):
So these guys better hurt up and get there and
sign up for that event because they can be holding
that sword and then walking over that famous bridge. I mean,
minus the ugly guy on the bridge. I mean they
can go wrong, the troll in the bridge.

Speaker 8 (11:11):
But you know we met until they came in.

Speaker 7 (11:15):
Yeah, they were happy. Yeah, it's an incredible week of
golf and what happens that week in Saint Andrews.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
We gather uh at the bridge on Sunday.

Speaker 7 (11:28):
We then go have dinner over looking the eighteenth fairway
at the RNA on the old course. Uh.

Speaker 3 (11:35):
And it's a great way to start the week.

Speaker 7 (11:38):
Then we come out of the gates. We played Krale.

Speaker 3 (11:42):
Uh.

Speaker 7 (11:43):
Crale is home to two eighteen whole court Links courses.
One was built by old Tom Morris himself. We've also
played Ee Lynks, but we always make sure we play
the number one new golf course in the world, Dumb
bar Barnie Lynks, dumb Barney Links. And once you're out there,

(12:04):
Greg and Billy and you're on dumb Barney and you're
amongst those massive sand dunes that comprise Links courses, you
quickly know why Dumb Barney was ranked the number one
new golf course three years ago.

Speaker 4 (12:21):
Who helped make that golf course? Refresh my memory?

Speaker 9 (12:24):
Uh?

Speaker 7 (12:24):
He is a Scotsman and his name fails me as well.
At dum Barney. Beautiful track. They're got there, they're already
laying out the next eighteen next time.

Speaker 9 (12:36):
Yeah, it'll be really really good. So we have this
main event coming in Canton. That's where people have to go.
You have USA Scotland.

Speaker 6 (12:46):
USA Scotland Golf dot Com log onto USA Scotland Golf
dot Com for your chance to win a trip to
Saint Andrews, Scotland with me for a whole week.

Speaker 4 (12:59):
Oh luck with that right there, whole week, Randy.

Speaker 7 (13:03):
You know we have a blast, guys. We have a
great partner at Charlton Castle and Estate. Charlton Castle has
stood there for over four hundred years. Wow, it's been
in the same family. Baron Duke Carlmichael Bond owns it.

(13:25):
He opens up his castle to us for our wards dinner. Wow.
He has a beautiful parkland parkland course there. It's very
reminiscent of my hometown of Latrobe, Pennsylvania. You may have
heard of it up and down Hills Cows. The reason

(13:47):
we play Charlton on a parkland course is we can't
compete with the lads on a lynx course. Yeah, links golf,
if no one's ever played at real links. Look, if
you're calling the lynx at Huckleby Farms in Nebraska a
lynks course.

Speaker 11 (14:06):
Stop it. It's a thin against golf. Do that you
need a notion to come it a lynx. It's all
an argument, yes.

Speaker 7 (14:15):
But it's a wonderful time. The whole week and again
the amazing part is the wonderful gentleman who owns the
estate opens his castle for the awards dinner, and it's amazing.
You know. I always thought that the guys would say,
oh it was dumb Barney Elee. It was my picture

(14:36):
on the bridge. Every single one of them has said
having the awards dinner and an ancient castle with the
duke serving you wine has been their favorite part.

Speaker 9 (14:48):
Well that's in April, right, so I think in that
time our big surprise won't be a big surprise anymore.

Speaker 4 (14:55):
It'll just be big and we should have you on
from there.

Speaker 9 (15:00):
That'll make a great show while you're there, head the
castle or all the other little things that you're doing
out there, and help show people live what they're missing
so they can get on it and jump on it,
because if they don't make it this year, there's always
help for next year.

Speaker 8 (15:16):
And they have I'm kind of wondering right now how
much trouble I get And if I canceled this cruise
to Cabo and went to Canton, Ohio.

Speaker 4 (15:26):
You could get in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 7 (15:28):
I'll tell you what we can. We can certainly add
you or media partners yes, so much going on in
Scotland right now. I'd be remiss if I didn't talk
about south. You know, you have Edinburgh the capitol, then
you got to drive an hour north to get into
Saint Andrew's. But that area here is CALLEDLF Scotland's Gulf

(15:51):
Coast okay east of Edinburgh onety one golf courses, wow,
including Mirrorfield. I gotta tell you, I got to go
into Mirfield this year. I was waiting for security at
some point to grab me and say you don't be
long here. That's how it felt.

Speaker 12 (16:12):
But a lot of great golf in scott We should
throw it out there that, you know, all those amazing
sponsors and people that make all this stuff possible.

Speaker 9 (16:24):
We open up the door for them to be on
future shows segments showcase what they have to offer.

Speaker 4 (16:30):
You know, I don't care if heads ground keeper to
the pro Shop.

Speaker 9 (16:36):
I love that stuff because it gives you a whole
different insights to everything that's going on over there.

Speaker 4 (16:41):
So we're going to extend that to you now, especially
when all this stuff go on.

Speaker 9 (16:45):
We'd love to reach out and have them contact us
and let's get them on the show and let people
know what they could possibly be participating in.

Speaker 4 (16:53):
I think it'd be amazing.

Speaker 7 (16:55):
Hey, I want to you know, I know you guys
have some secrets, but I'm really excited about another. You know,
God's really blessing us here at Teams Tay Golf and
golfing around. We're really excited about a new tournament series,
not even a tournament series for twenty twenty six. We
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(17:21):
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Speaker 4 (17:27):
I think we know them.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
Yeah, they also have thirteen retail stores complete with restaurants
and bars across the country. And I'm very proud to
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Speaker 4 (17:47):
R T E E.

Speaker 9 (17:49):
Well, well, yeah, unleash that animal. That could be a
whole new show. Maybe we can bring him in at
the same time. We got plenty of room on the screen.

Speaker 7 (17:58):
Yeah, we're really excited about those opportunities with the Gars International. Uh,
just a privilege to be working with them. Those are fun,
They're gonna be fun golf tournaments. You know, there's no handicaps,
there's no flights. There's nothing like that. However, when we

(18:18):
have our big national championship, four lucky guys will be selected,
whether it's a putting competition or randomly selecting a hat
for lucky guys are going to experience this. Saint Andrew's experience,

(18:38):
the same experience. They won't play Team Scotland, but they'll
get a chance to stand on the swill Cambridge. They'll
play Krall Dumb Barney, we may go up to Carnousti. Hey,
welcome back to the Golfing Around Radio Hour. I'm your host,

(18:59):
Randy the Tan Tantlinger here every Saturday morning at ten am.
And of course anytime you can listen to me. You
can't any time at all. You could just you know,
go onto iHeart podcasts and listen to me. Nick I
got a buddy in Iceland, Abby. He lives up there
in the capitol of Rekubec in Iceland and he listens

(19:22):
to the Golfing Around Radio show. Of course he's bored
most of the time up there, and you know, blame
him for listening to the show.

Speaker 9 (19:32):
Yeah, we.

Speaker 13 (19:34):
I feel like we met some people from Iceland at
the PGA show in January.

Speaker 7 (19:41):
Iceland Sweden all up that way. But yeah, it's actually
a beauty. I've actually been Abby. I met Abby. He
brought me up to Iceland about ten years ago to
film and work with their golf courses. And I always
joke about Iceland, but actually it's.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
A gorgeous country. The people are wonderful.

Speaker 13 (20:06):
Nick.

Speaker 7 (20:07):
There's only about three hundred thousand people that live in Iceland,
and they've got like something like fifty four to fifty
five golf courses.

Speaker 4 (20:16):
Also, no trouble getting the tea time, none.

Speaker 3 (20:19):
None, and they're golf fanatics.

Speaker 7 (20:21):
I think Makefield putters a lot of use Iceland as
an overseas demo market to you know, get your putter's
launch folks. So we're talking Nick with Makefield Golf. Makefield Golf. Nick,
you're over in the Philadelphia side of Pennsylvania, aren't correct.

Speaker 13 (20:43):
Yeah, we're about twenty minutes north of Philian Ben Salem, PA.

Speaker 3 (20:47):
I'm so sorry about that.

Speaker 7 (20:50):
Coming from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, I'm obligated to say that.

Speaker 13 (20:54):
Well, I think I'm a North Jersey guy and a
Cowboys fan, So I'm i Harry mcgrief with the you man.

Speaker 4 (21:03):
Yeah, I had football season with my coworkers.

Speaker 7 (21:07):
That's a rough.

Speaker 3 (21:08):
That's rough, folks.

Speaker 7 (21:10):
The reason we're talking to Nick today with make Field Golf,
make Field Golf. You know, Nick sent us a few
putters a couple of weeks ago. We went inside the
golf Lab, the Golfing Around Golf Lab simulator and Professor
Dom and I were just blown away by the putters, because,

(21:33):
you know, we get a lot.

Speaker 3 (21:33):
Of equipment sent to us. And you know what, I'm
just gonna go ahead and say it.

Speaker 7 (21:39):
One of your competitors, sax Parente, sax Parente putters. Do
you know them, Nick, I have heard of them. Yes, yes,
they're very, very expensive putters. And you know, we're very
honest about what we do here at Golfing Around. I
refuse to endorse something that is garbage just because it

(22:01):
was sent to us free of charge. And the politest
way to say it is this close to five hundred
dollars putter by a high end putter manufacturer.

Speaker 3 (22:14):
I wouldn't give you fifty bucks.

Speaker 1 (22:15):
For the thing.

Speaker 7 (22:17):
And I was honest with the folks there and told
them that, and they kind of cringed and said, well,
we appreciate your efforts and time, folks. I'm telling you
makefieldgolf dot com. Makefield golf dot com. Once you've done
listening to professor Nick here talk about their wonderful putters,

(22:38):
go check out makefieldgolf dot com. Nick, I'm gonna kind
of throw it to you right now to talk about
your putters, why they're so good, the cutting edge technology
you're using, they were all dead solid perfect.

Speaker 3 (22:59):
Yes.

Speaker 13 (23:00):
Our founder and designer, Everett far started the company during
COVID with another engineer and a local PGA pro, And
really what he had found through a bunch of.

Speaker 4 (23:18):
Research was that.

Speaker 13 (23:20):
Putters had the least amount of technology in them than
any club in the golf Bay, right. And we've been
able to move weight and drivers in fairway woods for
a decade and a half, eighteen years something around there,
but you couldn't really do it in putters in a
way that was effective. So we developed the X three

(23:43):
weight system. We use three little tiny we'll call them slugs.
They're about three quarters of an inch long, in three
different materials, with three different weights.

Speaker 4 (23:54):
And what you're able to do.

Speaker 13 (23:56):
Is change let's see, well we can throw out how
many terms, Randy. You can change the balance, you can
change the rate of face clows or you can change
the We'll even use the word torque, whatever your preferred
term is, to.

Speaker 4 (24:12):
Match that weight of the putter. We have a weight
combination that allows you to do that.

Speaker 13 (24:17):
You can move the weights feel to tow fronts back,
you know, really over time match it to your specific
putting stroke, right. I mean, you can't give the same
putter to ten players and expect the same results.

Speaker 4 (24:31):
It just doesn't work that way. And you know, I
hope you and Dom.

Speaker 13 (24:37):
Found in your tinkering that moving the weights around really
does impact how the putter performs in your hands.

Speaker 3 (24:43):
Absolutely absolutely.

Speaker 7 (24:45):
I'll jump in for a second. The guys that are going,
what what's he talking about weights in the putter? If
you've seen a driver in the technology and drivers in
the last fifteen years, you have the ability to get
the little toll right and move the weighting if you're

(25:07):
a slicer, if you're a hooker with your driver, the
same thing is applicable with the what Dom and I
found on the simulator moving and correct me if I'm wrong, Nick,
there's two types of metals you use in the waiting correct.

Speaker 13 (25:27):
Yeah, so there's there's actually three, but the third one
is aluminum. So the head's made out of aluminum, and
we we use the aluminum weights. Really they're not placeholders,
but they're you know, they're space fillers, right. So the
steel and the tungsten are considerably heavier and denser than
the aluminum, and that's how we can really swing the

(25:50):
balance of the putter.

Speaker 4 (25:52):
And then the aluminum weights fill in.

Speaker 13 (25:53):
The gaps wherever wherever the other two materials aren't aren't necessarily.

Speaker 4 (25:59):
Advantageous. And the other big thing, which and with the
amount of equipment you've tested Ranny every.

Speaker 13 (26:07):
Other putter, you screw the weights in through the bottom right,
their little discs or there. You know, if you're trying
to swing heel and toe weight in the blade, the
weights going through the.

Speaker 3 (26:16):
Soul of the club.

Speaker 4 (26:18):
Our weights go in through the equator.

Speaker 13 (26:20):
And the reason for that is by raising the center
of gravity of the putter head, you are causing the
ball to roll forward faster, sooner. So we have in
our testing, we have some of the lowest skid rates
in the industry with our putters. And as you know,

(26:41):
skid absolutely destroys distance control.

Speaker 7 (26:47):
Yeah, I mean it causes friction, which you know throws
the spin angle off ratio everything. And look, I'm not
a science guy. Whereas Dom the g is, He's an engineer.
He worked in he was in the Navy officer as
an engineer, and he just fell in love with the

(27:09):
Makefield putters.

Speaker 3 (27:11):
Folks.

Speaker 7 (27:12):
He enjoyed finding the right combination of steel and titanium weights.
He enjoyed the process. You know, think of it disc way,
Guys at home, if you're as Nick Professor Dlman, I
call it the golf sickness. Some of us have a

(27:35):
golf sickness, right, We're just obsessed with our sport, every
small detail. Maybe you are particularly, I'll only play one
pair of grips. I'm only a golf pride guy. I'm
a Jumbo Max guy because of the feel. Guys, I'm
telling you, if you've got that golf sickness going on,

(27:59):
and you're not just gonna go, you know, find a
junk putter at some yard cell and go, this is
my butter. But you love golf, and you love the
technology of golf, and you love scoring right drive for show,
putt for doe.

Speaker 3 (28:16):
I'm telling you Dom and I.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
Worked with the Makefield putters, and everything Nick is telling
you is true and verifiable. We'll have the video up
soon on Golfing Around YouTube page to take a look at.
Absolutely amazing, Nick, I mean it had been and since
you only just started pre covid, a lot of trial

(28:39):
and error in your guys is what do we call
it the golf lab over there at Makefield Golf.

Speaker 4 (28:46):
Yeah, we have what we use quintic Ball Role, which
we believe is the.

Speaker 13 (28:51):
Premiere putting data software in the industry, and we've learned
a ton from that, you know, and and Randy, the
beautiful thing about the Makefield putter is you can make
the experience what you want. I've I fit plenty of
players who are set it and forget it right. Tell

(29:14):
me it works. Tell me I can keep doing what
I've been doing for four or five decades and I
put it in the bag and I'm a better partter
because of it.

Speaker 4 (29:21):
That's true.

Speaker 13 (29:23):
Or you can go through the process that you and
Don went through and continue to tinker. And I fit
theginners who say I'm taking lessons, I'm practicing, I'm doing
all this. I'm going to keep adjusting the weights as
I get better and better and better, so there's no
floor or ceiling to the adjustable experience. If you're continuing

(29:43):
to approve improve and you need to move the weights
in the putter to help with that, you can do it.
Or if you know you you want to believe that
putting it in the bag is going to make you
a better putter, it absolutely will, because the ball is
going to roll better and you're going to keep the
face more square.

Speaker 7 (30:00):
You know, something just came to mind. I'd seen this
morning well before recording the show. I believe there is
a pro golfer up on a Canadian tour that is
leading whatever event is going on up there this week
or probably last week. It's only Wednesday when we're recording.

(30:21):
Putting is such a nuanced head trick, messes with your mind,
gives you the yips part of the game. Everybody's different.
Everybody's trying to figure out how to get that ball
nick into the hole.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
This cat was using the minimum length shaft, which I
believe is eighteen inches.

Speaker 12 (30:49):
Yep.

Speaker 7 (30:50):
Now, with my bad brack that I broke in the Army,
there's no way I could use that damn thing.

Speaker 14 (30:56):
But I use that as an example of whoever you
want to say, using the long putter where the grip
is right in front of his nose, in essence as
an extreme that people go to.

Speaker 3 (31:13):
To score and.

Speaker 7 (31:15):
Get the ball in the hole with their putters. You
know that ANX that comes. Maybe, Nick, you don't have
it eye don't. I really don't care. I roll, the
ball goes in a hole, it doesn't go in the hole.
I don't get worked up, you.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Know what I mean, Nick.

Speaker 7 (31:29):
Some guys get so frustrated, you know, their hands start shaking,
they get the yips.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
Well, the story I was going to before, I can't
get off my Odyssey putter.

Speaker 7 (31:41):
It's fifteen years old, and every time I try to
put a new putter in there. Eah, Like I told
Nick a couple months ago, the old Odyssey is right
back in the bag. I am keeping one of the
three putters you sent, and it is going to go
in the bag, all right. And I ain't going to

(32:01):
keep rolling on that makefield putter till something else comes along.

Speaker 4 (32:06):
With Which one? Which one are you hanging on to, Randy?

Speaker 3 (32:09):
I don't know, Nick. I told you I got a
beer in one hand, and I'm I don't know.

Speaker 7 (32:15):
Hey, Nick, I'll tell you which one I'm using, the
one that worked and the one I want that works
all righty.

Speaker 13 (32:21):
Hey, Randy, I want to touch on one other thing
as well. You mentioned about your back earlier when we
were you know, you were telling the yeah, it looks
like a Genda set can Canadian eighteen inch butter thing.
So if you noticed, all of our shafts are screwing right, Yeah,

(32:41):
they're all universal. All the heads have the same pocket.
Another really great design feature. And we've sold one putter
head and multiple shafts to a lot of people, and
for multiple reasons, we've had players who go back and
forth between a conventional grip and a claw grip where
they go left hand low and they want a different

(33:02):
grip on the putter. All you have to do is
screw the shaft out and screw the other one back in.
It takes less than a minute. Somebody like yourself, if
your back's tight one day and you still want to
get out there, you can take a thirty five in
shaft out and put a broomstick shaft in to the
same putter. You make the putter head a little bit
heavier to counteract that, but you can really have multiple

(33:24):
putters in one with our screw and shaft system, and
that's become increasingly popular to certain players based on what
their tendencies are.

Speaker 7 (33:33):
Yeah, and if those golf demons we talked about creep
up one day and you're like, I.

Speaker 3 (33:39):
I gotta change. I just I gotta change the shaft.

Speaker 7 (33:42):
Yep. You know my left cleat on my right foot
in the rear of the right I got to take
that cleat out and put a new one in. You
never know what the little demons are going to whisper
in your ear that reason you can't get the ball
in the hole exactly. I've absolutely enjoyed this, folks. I'm

(34:02):
sincere in what I'm telling you. The team over there
at Makefield Golf, they spend a lot of time and
a lot of research on this. It's proven to be
accurate and the way to do it. It's proven to
be the path to a better putter. I urge you

(34:24):
to get on the Makefield Golf dot calm. Check them out.
Talk to Nick.

Speaker 3 (34:30):
Find him and he'll spend time on the phone talking
to you about how to build you a better butter. Nick,
I wish you all this luck in the world.

Speaker 7 (34:38):
We're gonna stay in touch with you and see how
things are going there in the Makefield Universe over the
next year.

Speaker 4 (34:45):
Okay, absolutely.

Speaker 13 (34:47):
You know, we appreciate yours and Professor Dom's time and
feedback and conversations, and we're thrilled that you both love
them and hopefully that honestly stays in the closet for
the next fifteen years.

Speaker 4 (35:02):
But we'll see how that goes.

Speaker 7 (35:04):
Well, it's I can hear it now. It's like I
miss you, I miss you, old friend. Why the betrayal?
Why So we're gonna have to have a scotch and
talk one night. All right, Nick, you have a great
rest of your golf season.

Speaker 4 (35:20):
You as well.

Speaker 3 (35:22):
They will be right back to shut up, Nick, I'm
closing out this segment.

Speaker 7 (35:25):
Here, these guys from Philadelphia, you know, hey, yo, hey, hey,
you want some pizza? You know hey, We'll be right
back to the golfing around radio. And after this segment,
guess what, We're gonna go to the world's oldest golf course. Yeah,
and it's not the old course in St.

Speaker 3 (35:46):
Andrews. Everybody thinks that, Nope, it's not. When you get back,
you're gonna learn all about muscle bro links in Scotland.
That was fun. Ye, I appreciate that.

Speaker 4 (36:01):
That was great.

Speaker 13 (36:02):
I I you know, I love geeking out on the
technology and you know, being able to share that with people.
I'm I'm excited you guys did the level of experimenting
you did into it, because yeah, it's it's it's fascinating

(36:23):
how much you can change a putter just by moving
the weights for him.

Speaker 3 (36:26):
Unbelievable, unbelievable. I can't wait to get to editing the
video and getting it up for you.

Speaker 7 (36:34):
One of the things, if you'd like, so, I have
my friend Rich Styles. He has his golf show down
on the ESPN down in the Carolinas.

Speaker 3 (36:48):
He may wire well, want to interview you. I can
put the two of you together.

Speaker 4 (36:53):
Absolutely, Okay, that'd be fantastic.

Speaker 13 (36:56):
And yeah, I love doing this kind of stuff because
it's to hear the interest in your voice talking about
it makes me excited to talk about So it's it's.

Speaker 3 (37:09):
You know, I'm excited about your your your career, right I.

Speaker 13 (37:13):
I you know, I have these conversations every day with
customers and various people, and you know, we we we
love it when when somebody gets their hands on the
putter and says, wow, you know you're right, like everything
you're actually saying is actually true.

Speaker 7 (37:30):
Yeah, yeah, And I always say it this way. It's
at least of the golf courses. You know, there's forty
fat whatever it is, forty thousand golf courses in America.
We've got three hundred here in Ohio, Western PA, West Virginia.
As a golf course or a putter manufacturer, you've got

(37:52):
to bang on the drum, bang on the drum. So
the other Indians that live far away from you hear
you and they're like, oh, what is that over there?
What golf course is that? What putter is that?

Speaker 3 (38:06):
Because there's a lot of noise out there these days.

Speaker 7 (38:11):
With social media and just everything, so you got to
constantly be banging on the drum to let people know
you're out there.

Speaker 13 (38:20):
Well, you know, you know, it's interesting. I know we
talked about the lab thing pre segment. We just made
a video last week with really our first public comments
on zero torq, and we've just we've stayed out of it.
We're not developing a zero TORQ putter. It's not in

(38:42):
the works. We're hanging our hat on that. The adjustable
waiting is really the premiere technology in putters. I mean,
that's that's where we're going with it. We're not buying
into the copycat stuff. We're not, you know, hiding behind
closed doors until we create a zero torque putter.

Speaker 4 (39:02):
We're just we're staying out of it.

Speaker 7 (39:05):
It's funny because obviously that was one of the things
off camera Dom and I were talking about. And it's
almost as if with your system of waiting, you've created
a zero torque situation. Right, it's not like you went

(39:25):
out to compete with lab head two head, but through
your technology.

Speaker 3 (39:32):
Of the club headface reducing that friction, et cetera.

Speaker 7 (39:36):
With the waiting without saying your zero torque. You know,
Dom was doing all these little swing tests, right, Look
what gravity does he? You know, he's holding the putter head,
the putter grip head the top of it. He goes,
look what gravity does He goes, now, watch this and
he changed like two titanium it's in it. It moved around.

(40:01):
He goes, now, watch nothing. It didn't move at all
that time. So that that's a layman's viewpoint. That's the viewpoint, and.

Speaker 13 (40:13):
That's sort of that's the argument and the narrative we're
trying to create is that it's great that the putter
itself is a zero torque, but then once you put
your hands on it, it's no longer.

Speaker 4 (40:29):
And so with the weight system, it's almost like a.

Speaker 13 (40:33):
Net zero tour, right, it's net zero torque cutter and
player combined. But there's got to be a better way
to say that, m right. So you're zeroing out the
torque in your putting stroke by changing the weights in
the putter. And that's the narrative we're trying to create
that We just we haven't gotten there yet, and we
want to be careful with it because we're not out

(40:59):
to to bash the euro torqu We just don't believe
it's the end all be all of what it says
it is, and we would almost rather create an alternative
than try to counteract what we believe zero tor kids,
if that makes sense.

Speaker 7 (41:14):
Yeah, yeah, I know, you just gotta you gotta get
a piece of paper and start, you know, coming up
with that tagline. Yeah, and that's that one sucks, that
one sucks, that one sucks, and eventually somebody's gonna come
up with that tagline that's gonna go that's.

Speaker 13 (41:33):
Someone where after yeah, exactly, And then well you know
that's something where we can say Hey, you know, we're
we're promoting our own technology without bashing anyone else, and
that's you know, at the end of the day, that's
that's where we're trying to go with it.

Speaker 7 (41:48):
Yeah, I'm not a big fan of.

Speaker 3 (41:52):
It's just personal.

Speaker 7 (41:54):
I'll use I'll use smash burgers. You know what a
smash burger is, right? Yeah, for sure, everybody's selling a
smash burger right now, right, everybody everybody has a smash burger. Well,
you know what, why don't you create something else? Yeah,
why don't you to think outside of the box, because

(42:14):
all you're doing is I use the pet rock analogy. Right.
People love their new, newest pet rock whatever it is.
So if you your pet Rock vernacular was, oh, just
like lab zero torque, well you know that that ship's
eventually going to sail in the in the marketplace will say.

Speaker 3 (42:37):
Okay, what's the next new thing?

Speaker 7 (42:39):
Right, what's the next thing? So I think that's the
vernacular you're looking for.

Speaker 3 (42:44):
The next new thing. Yeah, even though they just signed
a two hundred million dollar contract.

Speaker 4 (42:51):
You know, I mean to me, that can go one
of two ways.

Speaker 13 (42:55):
Is that a cash injection to start new projects, or
is that take the money and run because the writing's
on the wall.

Speaker 4 (43:02):
I mean, I can see it going either way.

Speaker 7 (43:04):
I just don't you know. Yeah, I mean, be a
good problem to have.

Speaker 4 (43:09):
Brother, Absolutely, I bliss. I mean, hey, God bless them
that they built it into what they built it. That's right,
that's good for.

Speaker 7 (43:16):
Them, that's right. If you and I got that kind
of money, our offices would be in the Caribbean somewhere,
at least I know mine would be.

Speaker 4 (43:24):
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7 (43:25):
I mean they had a Caribbean hotel or something.

Speaker 13 (43:30):
Yeah, they've had a pretty ridiculous thirty months or you
know whatever, whatever it is, going back the past couple
of years.

Speaker 7 (43:38):
So