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Speaker 1 (00:10):
Eight, nineteen thirteen ten W I b A. That song
always puts a smile on my face. Why because I
know I'll be talking with Kevin Ham, master arborist of
at Ham's Arborcare. You can learn more about Kevin and
the team and all about Hamsarborcare on their website Hamsarborcare
dot com. That's h A M M Sarborcare dot com.
Their telephone number eight six six five nine six five
(00:32):
three nine six that's eight six six five nine six
five three nine six. All that information also available to
you again at the website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h
A M M. Sarborcare dot com. As mentioned, joining us
this morning is master Arborist Kevin Ham. Kevin, how you
doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm doing good, Sean, was I talking over you there
for a minute?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh you had you're always you've always got a little
business going. I know you're you're.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I think, Maria, Oh my god, tell that guy hey
real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And we've got important stuff. I know that you've got
a great special and for folks that are looking for
a great, a great smaller tree, the crab apple tree,
We're going to talk a little bit about in a moment
and some of the other stuff going on. Real quick though,
I saw somebody post on one of these social media
sites about about a mailer that they received from It
(01:24):
was an out of state tree company and they it
was for oak wilt and and it was somebody had
posted and said what is this about? And people were
concerned obviously because as far as I know right now,
you can't oak trees are are It's a no no
to be to be trimming them? And kind of this
(01:47):
was a City of Madison resident. Is are there cases
where folks can be trimming oaks? Or is that is
that something you really very much want to have, you know,
avoided and put off until until it gets No, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Don't want to be pruning folks. I mean in Madison
the ordinance goes all the way to October fifteenth. On
the oak Will Thermal model produced by the University of Wisconsin.
After July fifteenth, you're technically moving into the safe period.
The degree days are over twenty one hundred and seventy
(02:25):
degree days, and the incidents of the fungus is gone.
You know, that's dried and desiccated in these hot days
of July and so the common picnic beetle, though it
may still be fine, it's not targeting that is a
food source. And so it's just the likelihood of a
(02:51):
picnic beetle carrying the fungus at this time of year
is just very low, and so it's technically in the
low category. But you know, out of state, you can
to remember oak qult is kind of a it's the
Midwest thing. It started in Minnesota and Wisconsin, and that's
why you know, the UW system and the University of
(03:12):
Minnesota system has the greatest body of research work on
over world. But it's moving eat and it's just getting
into New York and you know, different places, and Ontario
now has it up in Canada, and you know, they
(03:33):
don't know much about it, and they might think, go
oh oh, you see dead trees, you cut them down. No,
see dead oak trees. You wait till fall to cut
them down, because you can actually it was oak wold
to kill the tree, and you would know right now
red oaks that have oak wall, they're actively droppingly. The
(03:55):
last thing you want to do is cut down that
oak tree that's willy right now, because you'll open up
all of the vessels on that like straw, Like taking
your thumb off a straw that has water, and it's
what's the water do shine?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It draws up and sticks in the straw and then
it drops out if you.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
If you lift your thumb, Yeah, it falls out once
you lift your thumb. You could you could pull it
out and hold it in the straw by having your
thumb on them on the top of the straw. But
if you lift your thumb, then gravity will pull the
water out. And to think of that, these trees are
grafted underground and they're they're producing turger pressure, that's what
(04:35):
it's called. And as the water is leaving the leaves
out of the healthy tree nearby, it's drawing. It's drawing
water out of the ground into the tree. Well, if
it's grafted to a disease tree, it's going to be
drawing from that other disease tree. And if you open
(04:55):
up all the straws on the disease tree, in theory
that fungus could move faster to the adjacent healthy non
symptomatic treating and you know they still have a chance
to be chemically treated, more trenched, to be protected. There's
(05:17):
a lot of protocols with oak Wills that I find
even a lot of local arborists do not really you know,
know all the ins and out. Uh, there's a number
of companies that have been working with for the time.
But how to state companies talking about oak will I
would assume they don't know what they talk about.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm gonna have to find that conversation because I should
probably share it with.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Highly interested in seeing that letter.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, one of the things I was very proud of
when I read it was and it might have actually
been on readit where I read this, but it was
probably a lot of folks that had suggested that, you know,
we look for find an is a board certified arborist,
And I thought that's some that to me seems like
some some probably sound advice right there for folks, Isn't.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It Absolutely a lot of times the people coming from
out of state there they're storm chasers, their situation chasers,
and you know, they're tree removal specialists. Oftentimes that's that's
the money that goes that's that's the crews that go
run around is their tree removal special and they're they're
(06:29):
not necessarily arbiculturally.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Stand talking this morning with Master Arborist Kevin Ham. Of course,
Kevin comes to us from Ham's Arbor Karen As we're
talking about about plant health and being careful about who
is treating and taking care of your tree and of
course getting that getting those trees checked out.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Always looking ahead, Kevin, and I know one of the
great things about about working with the folks in Ham's
Arborcare and working with a master arbist and working with
arborists is always, you know, understanding the timeline of things,
whether it's monitoring degree days or communities, different ordinances and
our things to making sure things are done properly. Also
renewals and keeping people up to date on on where
(07:08):
things stand. And I know you guys recently uh got
got your renewals sent out for things like UH birch
boor and UH two line chestnut and and uh and clorosis,
which I know we talked about the other week as well,
those bundles as well. Keeping folks informed that now is
the times we think about this stuff. That's a great
benefit of working with Hams Arborcare, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, you know we we monitor this. Yeah, we've worked
with your trees in the past. We're keeping track of
that and we're getting you out an opportunity to continue
that treatment at necessary and oftentimes, you know, I mean
we're we're busy like everybody. But sometimes you might might
get a renewal in the mail and oh, I have
(07:51):
something else I need to ask about, all right, or
I want this tree to be visually looked at just
to see where where it's at. And of course we're
interested in doing that. We utilize that opportunity just to
communicate with clients and uh, and it gives us a
chance to get out there and look at those trees
(08:12):
and see them again. But you can be rest assured.
You know, everybody's got a busy life. And the tendency
is people don't look at their trees very often.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You don't notice something.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah. Yeah, So to have somebody thinking about your tree
and the and the right timing to re drove that
tree is a good service.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
What is by the way, as we're talking and it's
a fantastic day we talk about the great service provider
at Ham's Harborcare. It's a fantastic, fantastic day to have
your uh, your trees checked out. Do it today? Have
have Kevin and the team take look eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. That's eight six
six five nine six five three nine six two line chestnut.
(08:57):
What is this? Is this another board? What is the
what is this like chess board?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, it's one of our native cousins to the emerald ashboard.
And that that is Uh, they're they're the same shape,
everything's the same, except this one's black with two two
white lines going down the back. So two lines chestnut board.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Very clever.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, you know, I mean scientists are great for that.
Uh and so uh, this whole guy, uh was attracted
to chestnut we don't really have around and so it's
crossed over to oaks and ordinarily white oaks and burrows
and ordinarily stressed trees. So chlorosis yellow weight of the
(09:45):
leaves can be something that stresses your your oak trees. Uh.
Burr oak blight is another stressed. Drought is another stress
on trees. And oftentimes, like we had a severe drought
last ball August and September, and those trees could have
(10:05):
been stressed and there may have still got some adult
beetles flying at that time that would have laid eggs
on those stress trees. And now this year there could
be potential in there. And if you look up at
the top of your your white oaks or bur oaks,
if you have declined so there's some dead branches out
(10:26):
at the tip. If you see dead branches underneath, that's
more understory DEANWD. But if they're out at the tip
and it looks like it's pulling back, that is there's
probably two lindjusi more involved, and that would at least
be one thing you would want to do is the
treats for that. And if there's yellow leaves and you
(10:46):
can see the veins, like the veins of the leaf
are green, but the rest of the leaf is kind
of yellowish, that's chlorosis and that's an iron or manganese
efficiency and there's things that we can do for that.
And if it's pretty yellow, then you probably want to
do the chlorosis bundle, which is a little bit of
the kitchen sink. It's four items where and we're air
(11:10):
speeding out the base usually and so we can inspect
the roots a little bit and then we're injecting iron
into the tree. We're injecting MMC and benzoway, which is
an active ingredient that we used for emeral lashboard. But
it works of course to my chestnut board, and it
has about a three year residual two to three years.
(11:33):
And then Canvastat is a growth regulator that has a
three year residual. And then we put down biochart and
with iron and manganese mixed it and and that that
gives us a little bit of eternal so to speak,
soil enhancement to increase that nutrient holding capacity because that biochart,
(11:59):
as we talk out before, I tracked those micro nutrients
and then give them to the tree. So it creates
that middleman so to speak, between the nutrients and the
air and soil and the tree.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's pretty cools as we talk about, and I know,
I know when it comes to that comes to that bundle.
There's a reason, as you point out, is sometimes people
try to maybe pick one or two, and it's like,
do you want the most effective? These are the these
are the steps you've take. And that's a great thing
about working with Kevin is getting that getting that great
guidance and advice. And one I mentioned earlier about people
(12:33):
tend to call when they start to see something happening.
One of the things in working with Kevin and the
team at Ham's Barborcare. They will know with things that
are either potentially going to happen or things that are
occurring that you may not even notice. That's why it's
so important if you haven't had your trees inspected recently
to give them a call at Ham's Arborcare eight six
six five nine six five three nine six. That's eight
(12:54):
six six five nine six five three nine six. You
can learn more online Hamsarborcare dot com. It's H A. M. M.
S Arborcare dot com and Kevin, it's always great chatting
with you. We have a great day and we'll do
it all again.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
In seven awesome Thank you. Sean.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
News comes your way next right here on thirteen ten
WU I B A
Eight, nineteen thirteen ten W I b A. That song
always puts a smile on my face. Why because I
know I'll be talking with Kevin Ham, master arborist of
at Ham's Arborcare. You can learn more about Kevin and
the team and all about Hamsarborcare on their website Hamsarborcare
dot com. That's h A M M Sarborcare dot com.
Their telephone number eight six six five nine six five
(00:32):
three nine six that's eight six six five nine six
five three nine six. All that information also available to
you again at the website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h
A M M. Sarborcare dot com. As mentioned, joining us
this morning is master Arborist Kevin Ham. Kevin, how you
doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:49):
I'm doing good, Sean, was I talking over you there
for a minute?
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Oh you had you're always you've always got a little
business going. I know you're you're.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
I think, Maria, Oh my god, tell that guy hey
real quick.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
And we've got important stuff. I know that you've got
a great special and for folks that are looking for
a great, a great smaller tree, the crab apple tree,
We're going to talk a little bit about in a moment
and some of the other stuff going on. Real quick though,
I saw somebody post on one of these social media
sites about about a mailer that they received from It
(01:24):
was an out of state tree company and they it
was for oak wilt and and it was somebody had
posted and said what is this about? And people were
concerned obviously because as far as I know right now,
you can't oak trees are are It's a no no
to be to be trimming them? And kind of this
(01:47):
was a City of Madison resident. Is are there cases
where folks can be trimming oaks? Or is that is
that something you really very much want to have, you know,
avoided and put off until until it gets No, Yeah, you.
Speaker 2 (02:02):
Don't want to be pruning folks. I mean in Madison
the ordinance goes all the way to October fifteenth. On
the oak Will Thermal model produced by the University of Wisconsin.
After July fifteenth, you're technically moving into the safe period.
The degree days are over twenty one hundred and seventy
(02:25):
degree days, and the incidents of the fungus is gone.
You know, that's dried and desiccated in these hot days
of July and so the common picnic beetle, though it
may still be fine, it's not targeting that is a
food source. And so it's just the likelihood of a
(02:51):
picnic beetle carrying the fungus at this time of year
is just very low, and so it's technically in the
low category. But you know, out of state, you can
to remember oak qult is kind of a it's the
Midwest thing. It started in Minnesota and Wisconsin, and that's
why you know, the UW system and the University of
(03:12):
Minnesota system has the greatest body of research work on
over world. But it's moving eat and it's just getting
into New York and you know, different places, and Ontario
now has it up in Canada, and you know, they
(03:33):
don't know much about it, and they might think, go
oh oh, you see dead trees, you cut them down. No,
see dead oak trees. You wait till fall to cut
them down, because you can actually it was oak wold
to kill the tree, and you would know right now
red oaks that have oak wall, they're actively droppingly. The
(03:55):
last thing you want to do is cut down that
oak tree that's willy right now, because you'll open up
all of the vessels on that like straw, Like taking
your thumb off a straw that has water, and it's
what's the water do shine?
Speaker 1 (04:09):
It draws up and sticks in the straw and then
it drops out if you.
Speaker 2 (04:13):
If you lift your thumb, Yeah, it falls out once
you lift your thumb. You could you could pull it
out and hold it in the straw by having your
thumb on them on the top of the straw. But
if you lift your thumb, then gravity will pull the
water out. And to think of that, these trees are
grafted underground and they're they're producing turger pressure, that's what
(04:35):
it's called. And as the water is leaving the leaves
out of the healthy tree nearby, it's drawing. It's drawing
water out of the ground into the tree. Well, if
it's grafted to a disease tree, it's going to be
drawing from that other disease tree. And if you open
(04:55):
up all the straws on the disease tree, in theory
that fungus could move faster to the adjacent healthy non
symptomatic treating and you know they still have a chance
to be chemically treated, more trenched, to be protected. There's
(05:17):
a lot of protocols with oak Wills that I find
even a lot of local arborists do not really you know,
know all the ins and out. Uh, there's a number
of companies that have been working with for the time.
But how to state companies talking about oak will I
would assume they don't know what they talk about.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
I'm gonna have to find that conversation because I should
probably share it with.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Highly interested in seeing that letter.
Speaker 1 (05:45):
Yeah, one of the things I was very proud of
when I read it was and it might have actually
been on readit where I read this, but it was
probably a lot of folks that had suggested that, you know,
we look for find an is a board certified arborist,
And I thought that's some that to me seems like
some some probably sound advice right there for folks, Isn't.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
It Absolutely a lot of times the people coming from
out of state there they're storm chasers, their situation chasers,
and you know, they're tree removal specialists. Oftentimes that's that's
the money that goes that's that's the crews that go
run around is their tree removal special and they're they're
(06:29):
not necessarily arbiculturally.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Stand talking this morning with Master Arborist Kevin Ham. Of course,
Kevin comes to us from Ham's Arbor Karen As we're
talking about about plant health and being careful about who
is treating and taking care of your tree and of
course getting that getting those trees checked out.
Speaker 2 (06:46):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (06:46):
Always looking ahead, Kevin, and I know one of the
great things about about working with the folks in Ham's
Arborcare and working with a master arbist and working with
arborists is always, you know, understanding the timeline of things,
whether it's monitoring degree days or communities, different ordinances and
our things to making sure things are done properly. Also
renewals and keeping people up to date on on where
(07:08):
things stand. And I know you guys recently uh got
got your renewals sent out for things like UH birch
boor and UH two line chestnut and and uh and clorosis,
which I know we talked about the other week as well,
those bundles as well. Keeping folks informed that now is
the times we think about this stuff. That's a great
benefit of working with Hams Arborcare, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
Yeah, you know we we monitor this. Yeah, we've worked
with your trees in the past. We're keeping track of
that and we're getting you out an opportunity to continue
that treatment at necessary and oftentimes, you know, I mean
we're we're busy like everybody. But sometimes you might might
get a renewal in the mail and oh, I have
(07:51):
something else I need to ask about, all right, or
I want this tree to be visually looked at just
to see where where it's at. And of course we're
interested in doing that. We utilize that opportunity just to
communicate with clients and uh, and it gives us a
chance to get out there and look at those trees
(08:12):
and see them again. But you can be rest assured.
You know, everybody's got a busy life. And the tendency
is people don't look at their trees very often.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
You don't notice something.
Speaker 2 (08:26):
Yeah. Yeah, So to have somebody thinking about your tree
and the and the right timing to re drove that
tree is a good service.
Speaker 1 (08:36):
What is by the way, as we're talking and it's
a fantastic day we talk about the great service provider
at Ham's Harborcare. It's a fantastic, fantastic day to have
your uh, your trees checked out. Do it today? Have
have Kevin and the team take look eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. That's eight six
six five nine six five three nine six two line chestnut.
(08:57):
What is this? Is this another board? What is the
what is this like chess board?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
Yeah, it's one of our native cousins to the emerald ashboard.
And that that is Uh, they're they're the same shape,
everything's the same, except this one's black with two two
white lines going down the back. So two lines chestnut board.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
Very clever.
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Yeah, you know, I mean scientists are great for that.
Uh and so uh, this whole guy, uh was attracted
to chestnut we don't really have around and so it's
crossed over to oaks and ordinarily white oaks and burrows
and ordinarily stressed trees. So chlorosis yellow weight of the
(09:45):
leaves can be something that stresses your your oak trees. Uh.
Burr oak blight is another stressed. Drought is another stress
on trees. And oftentimes, like we had a severe drought
last ball August and September, and those trees could have
(10:05):
been stressed and there may have still got some adult
beetles flying at that time that would have laid eggs
on those stress trees. And now this year there could
be potential in there. And if you look up at
the top of your your white oaks or bur oaks,
if you have declined so there's some dead branches out
(10:26):
at the tip. If you see dead branches underneath, that's
more understory DEANWD. But if they're out at the tip
and it looks like it's pulling back, that is there's
probably two lindjusi more involved, and that would at least
be one thing you would want to do is the
treats for that. And if there's yellow leaves and you
(10:46):
can see the veins, like the veins of the leaf
are green, but the rest of the leaf is kind
of yellowish, that's chlorosis and that's an iron or manganese
efficiency and there's things that we can do for that.
And if it's pretty yellow, then you probably want to
do the chlorosis bundle, which is a little bit of
the kitchen sink. It's four items where and we're air
(11:10):
speeding out the base usually and so we can inspect
the roots a little bit and then we're injecting iron
into the tree. We're injecting MMC and benzoway, which is
an active ingredient that we used for emeral lashboard. But
it works of course to my chestnut board, and it
has about a three year residual two to three years.
(11:33):
And then Canvastat is a growth regulator that has a
three year residual. And then we put down biochart and
with iron and manganese mixed it and and that that
gives us a little bit of eternal so to speak,
soil enhancement to increase that nutrient holding capacity because that biochart,
(11:59):
as we talk out before, I tracked those micro nutrients
and then give them to the tree. So it creates
that middleman so to speak, between the nutrients and the
air and soil and the tree.
Speaker 1 (12:13):
It's pretty cools as we talk about, and I know,
I know when it comes to that comes to that bundle.
There's a reason, as you point out, is sometimes people
try to maybe pick one or two, and it's like,
do you want the most effective? These are the these
are the steps you've take. And that's a great thing
about working with Kevin is getting that getting that great
guidance and advice. And one I mentioned earlier about people
(12:33):
tend to call when they start to see something happening.
One of the things in working with Kevin and the
team at Ham's Barborcare. They will know with things that
are either potentially going to happen or things that are
occurring that you may not even notice. That's why it's
so important if you haven't had your trees inspected recently
to give them a call at Ham's Arborcare eight six
six five nine six five three nine six. That's eight
(12:54):
six six five nine six five three nine six. You
can learn more online Hamsarborcare dot com. It's H A. M. M.
S Arborcare dot com and Kevin, it's always great chatting
with you. We have a great day and we'll do
it all again.
Speaker 2 (13:06):
In seven awesome Thank you. Sean.
Speaker 1 (13:09):
News comes your way next right here on thirteen ten
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