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Speaker 1 (00:09):
Eight twenty two thirteen ten W I B and ask
the experts. Brought to you by hams Arborcare Online hams
h A m MS arborcare dot com. All one word,
that's Hamsarborcare dot com. Tell for number eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. That's eight six
six five nine six five three nine six kind of

(00:30):
just flows right off the tongue with that phone number.
And joining us this morning is Master Arborist Kevin Ham. Kevin,
how you doing this morning?

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Doing great? Sean? A little little little bit of drizzle
happening today, but you know we're going to get something done.

Speaker 1 (00:45):
Do uh. I know, you guys work in just about
every every type of weather condition. I know, uh, I
know a little bit of rain never slows you guys down.
Did we need do we need rain? Are we Is
that something that uh that overall across the red we're
probably could probably use? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:03):
You know, I got back from our little trip to
Door County last week, and I noticed, like the leaves
on my small you know, ornamental trees around my yard
were in a wilting stage, you know, they were drooping,
indicating they were very dry. And I and as I

(01:24):
went around and kind of watered things. I'm like, yeah,
you know, we are pretty dry, so we could use
some fall rain here. So yeah, definitely this is good.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Are trees able to take in moisture from like it
is only coming through the roots? Cir Are there ways
for them to bring in moisture, like if it's like
a light rain, are they able to take moisture through
leaves or anything like that or is it strictly through it?

Speaker 2 (01:50):
Yeah, I mean there can be summer relentissils on the
bark can receive different things. I mean, there's applications that
we put on the bark that that go into the tree.
So there are you know, this stamata on the leaves.
It's an open gateway both ways. Usually it's it's moisture
leaving the tree, but we can make application of like

(02:15):
a chylated iron to the leaves and it will get
into the leaves, you know, So there it will take
in moisture and nutrients through through the stamata on the leaves,
which are little doorways usually on the bottom of the leaves,
and and so yeah, that is possible, but for the

(02:35):
best application is through through the root system with good
soil moisture and then subsequently a high pressure day. So
if we get good moisture today and then the sun
comes out and we got a nice fall, high pressure,
clear skies kind of thing, it can really you know,
create a good pathway as that water moves from a

(03:00):
higher concentration in the soil to a lower concentration in
the air.

Speaker 1 (03:04):
Interest And of course I know he mentioned you just
got back from Dori County. I know you've got some
uh got some traveling in the future. I want to
ask you about that. In just a moment, I was
listening to uh to a podcast and I thought of you.
It was about they're talking about the economics of of
maple syrup, like real maple syrup, not the corn syrup
stuff you get at the store. Do we have Do

(03:25):
we do maple syrup? Much of it here in Wisconsin?
Do you see the like the sugar maples and things.
Do we see that stuff here in our in the
state of Wisconsin.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
Yeah, in northern Wisconsin. Uh, there's there's a lot of
production uh operations going on. UH the if you're interested.
Every spring, the uh Mackenzie Center in Poynette will do
a special where they they tap maple syrup and they

(03:54):
cook it down and you know, you can bring your
kids and show them and they've got tasting content, you know,
a little pancake breakfast. I believe they do that still
every year, so that's something you can kind of see
the process. I was on a project up by Wassaw
where we were looking at It was a study on

(04:16):
basswood strips, a little bug that we had to go
up and take samples in the canopy. But it was
in a basswood maple forest, a sugar maple basswood, which
is a common combination. And they had a whole system
set up, you know, piping all through the forest and

(04:39):
it was a vacuum system, so they actually put a
vacuum pressure and they're pulling the stab a gathering you know,
tank and then boiling it down. So there are some
pretty elaborate systems set up and all these white hoses
going through the forest and they're all tapped in there. Yeah,

(05:03):
that is amazing.

Speaker 1 (05:03):
I I uh, I learned from the podcast too. As
I was listening to is I used to watch a
show about like these uh, these people that used to
make moonshine, and they talk about like as they make
the different the the moonshine and these stills, and like
how certain parts of the of the moonshine were like
different consistencies, and I didn't realize. And it makes perfect

(05:26):
sense that the maple syrup and the maple trees, depending
on how far into the season the maple, the flavor
of the ultimate syrup will change based on based on
the type time of the season that they're in. It
was just a just a fascinating, uh fascinating thing there
for sure.

Speaker 2 (05:43):
And that's what that's what ceases the operation is when
the buds begin to break, it will there will be
extra tannins that get involved that will make it more bitter,
you know, so it degrades quickly. So they're there. They
want those early seasons. Sometimes it can start as early

(06:03):
as January. You get one of those January saws and
you'll get the right it'll start flowing. So the ones
that are kind of set up and ready to go,
we'll get an early draw and that'll be crystal clear.
And then you know, as it is, what you want
is above freezing in the day and blow freezing at night,
so you get this back and forth flow.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Oh that is I knew when I when I when
I was listening up, I said, Kevin's going to have
more information to this show effort. I'm so lucky I
get to talk with you each and every week mentioned
travel and obviously you were up Indoor County celebrating uh
the wife's birthday yesterday and last week. But you're you're

(06:46):
here for a limited time. Obviously Ham's Arborcare. All the
guys are still working U but you are. You are
heading down on a couple of events. You've got the
big speaking of working, you got the t C I
a expoe in Saint Louis, and then for there you're
heading a little further south, aren't you.

Speaker 2 (07:03):
Yeah, going down to Guatemala again. So we're you know,
it's tight logistic. I can't have any car problems or
anything coming back from Saint Louis. Yeah, it's a I
think at three o'clock flight out, So I've got to
be there at one o'clock on Sunday at the airport.
And uh, you know, I'm I'm leaving Saint Louis sometime

(07:26):
in the afternoon on Saturday, so that's got to be
a smooth six hour drive and then we'll be ready
to go but yeah, we're at St. Louis, will be
a Game of trees. Of course, we've got our our
biochar products, the soap, bio our Body, Barn shampoo, and
we've got a clorosis boost that we're going to be

(07:49):
marketing down there as well, which is what we used
on our Chlorosis bundle. It's one of the products within
that bundle, and it's got keylated eye aaron and chylated
manganese and then a little bit of sulfur to adjust
the pH in the immediate area that we're doing, uh,
and so that we add in a in a drench

(08:10):
solution around the base of the tree.

Speaker 1 (08:13):
And when we too to talk, Kevin mentioned, of course
you guys are going at hams Arborcare year round and
there's always, uh, there's always opportunities for folks, and you
mentioned Game of Trees also UH soap and other things
available at gameoftrees dot com. I loved that I've talked
about it. It is the absolute that biochar soap is
the absolute best soap you're ever gonna It smells great,

(08:36):
it cleans great. I know we've got rave reviews from
from the Fair or Sex as well on on its effectiveness.
Also as we talk about talk about getting into the
winter months, whether you've got got a sugar maple or
any type of maple or any other type of tree,
it's a really good time right now, Kevin uh to
be to be getting on this calendar, getting on the

(08:57):
schedule to have whether it's something that's obvious that needs
to be taken care of, or you just need to
have your tree and spectacus you haven't done it for
a while. It's a great time to get on that schedule,
isn't it.

Speaker 2 (09:07):
Yeah. You know, I'm sitting here actually in a parking
lot looking at different trees and there's some with leaves
on them and some with leaves off, and you know,
I for training pruning. You know, when when the leaves
fall off in the fall, it's a great time because
you see the whole structure of the tree. And you know,

(09:28):
as I look, it's like a Tetris effect. You know,
I'm looking at a tree and I'm like, okay, I'd
take that one. That one. That one You're like trying
to puzzle piece it apart. And that's the beauty of
having trees without leaves on them, is you can see
the structure, and you know you can pre pick your
your cuts as you're going up into the tree.

Speaker 1 (09:50):
It's a really good time to do that. As Kevin
points out, he can really get a good look at
your tree, really take great care of it. Again. They
go year round at Ham's arborcaret is a fantastic time
now to get on the scheduling. Do that right online
Hamsarborcare dot com. That's Hams h a m MS Arborcare
dot com. Tellphone number and give them a call this
morning at eight six six five nine six five three

(10:10):
nine six. That's eight sixty six five nine six five
three nine six. Kevin, it's always great chatting with you.
You take care and we'll do it all again real soon.

Speaker 2 (10:20):
Thank you. Sean, take care.

Speaker 1 (10:21):
And we got news coming her way next here on
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