October 25, 2023 • 12 mins
Kevin talks weather, tree treatments, buckthorn, and what you can do for your trees in the fall.
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(00:10):
Eight, nineteen thirteen ten WIBA andasked the experts hanging out this morning with
Kevin Ham, a master arborist athams Arborcare the website hams Arborcare dot com.
That's h A m ms arborcare dotcom. Tell for number eight sixty
six five nine six five three ninesix, that's eight six six five nine
six five three nine six and joiningus this morning live from the Peace Garden
(00:34):
State. I do believe is whatthey call North Dakota, mister Kevin Ham,
Kevin for folks that don't know,you are originally from North Dakota,
aren't you. I am. Indeed, I grew up in Fargo, North
Dakota, Fargo. What do youthink of the movie? Yeah, well,
you know those murders were real thatthey say that actually occurred, not
(00:55):
exactly how the movie portraded, butyeah, that was I did watch the
movie. It was if they wouldhave had my chip or they would have
got away. Oh yeh, it'sgreat to talk with you. By the
way, did I tell the storylast week of how I don't know if
I did. I've been telling thestory so much that I tend to forget
if I repeat myself did we talklast week about folks asking me about why
(01:19):
I smelled so good? Did Itell you this story yet? I don't
think you did. Okay, I'vehad a number of people in the past
week couple of weeks actually say tome, why do you smell so like?
Your hairs asking you? Ask mewhat cologne do you wear you smell
(01:41):
so good? And you know what, I said, like, I don't
wear cologne generally on weekends when thewife and I are going out to dinner
or something, I might a littlesport. I said, it's it's the
soap. And tell them, Isaid, you've got a head on over
the Game of Trees, So Ihope you get some orders from that Game
of Trees dot com because people peopleare impressed, and I'm impressed with it.
(02:02):
On your the salt that you thatyou sell at Game of Trees dot
com. People are impressed with howgreat and I think it smells fantastic as
well. But people are taking thewhole trifecta of essential oils. It's got
eucalyptus, uh cedar, and pineessential oil, so it kind of gives
this, you know, all threeof those are fairly you know aramaic and
(02:25):
and so it really has a goodcombination there. It is smells like all
the best parts of a wood shop. And it takes off eyeliner. It
takes off and I have not foundanything else that does, so just just
FYI, that's awesome. It offtakes off the cast or oil in there
(02:46):
is that glathered up for the shampoois the cast oil. So there you
know some of the secret that you'regiving them all away this morning. The
biggest secret though is order on lineright now a game of Trees dot com.
That's Game of Trees dot com.You can order yourself a few bars
and the special people in your lifepeople in your life as well. It's
(03:08):
it's a really an amazing product.And Kevin, we've got we've got tree
stuff to talk about as well thismorning. And uh speaking of different different
ways because of course with the UHwith the with the biochar that's used in
your soap, you also use itof course to help with the with trees,
and of course people use it ontheir lawns as well. And speaking
(03:29):
of ways that you help trees arethrough injections. Are not talking about biochar
injections, other types of injections arekind of wrapping that up for the season,
aren't you. Yeah, it's kindof one of the last things we
do is the soil injections for uhbronze birch boor, two line chestnut boor
and Japanese beetle. And you know, we do that in the spring as
(03:50):
well. But we've kind of gota cadre that fall in the you know,
in the autumn, and then wehave a cadre that falls in the
spring. And it's kind of aboutyou know, when you were uh enlisted
to speak, so if if welook at your tree sometime in August or
something, we probably lined you upto the fall and and then you just
(04:13):
kind of stay on the fall rotation. So we've got some uh those things
finishing up. We we finished upthe biochart last week. We're we'll probably
we'll be doing some lawn applications herecoming up here. That will probably be
the last thing that we do becausethat's a good thing to put down in
the late fall. But we've gotsome good soil moisture going in. We'll
(04:33):
be planting some trees this uh thisweek, and that that high soil moisture
going in the fall. Is isalways a good good thing to go in
the winter and get a nice hardfreeze for your new trees that are planted.
Does that does that moisture obviously thetrees love the moisture, But does
(04:54):
that help you mention that hard hardfreeze that almost create like a like an
insulating shell on the on the topsurface of the so oil is that is
that? Parsonally? Why it doesit keeps you know, it reduces the
drying effect of you know, becauseoftentimes the air moisture is drier in the
winter, and so you can geta little bit of drying effect through the
(05:14):
winter if you don't have snow cover, of course, and sometimes we do
have open ground. So if ifyou have open ground and you have a
hard freeze, you know that thatdoes provide a little uh inflating barrier.
You know. I saw a pictureyou post, I think it was on
your Instagram of a bunch of yourtrees lined up ready to ready to go
(05:35):
out and be be placed on people'sproperty, out in people's yards, And
Kevin, I got to tell you, I know we were talking the other
week as folks talk about leaves changingand falling off trees and it's a great
time. Even even if you geta tree and it's it's bare right now,
people are going, wait a second, I don't know, it's it's
obviously trees doing it things. It'sa great time to get a planted.
Those trees look beautiful that you thatyou share it on your on your I
(05:57):
think it was your Instagram page.Really nice look in trees and those look
great in somebody's yard. Yeah,they've got a good color spectrum across across
the nursery there and even though ourcrab apples that we have have good ball
color and so that was yeah,it was kind of nice. Nice to
take a shot of that. Andwe'll be putting a bunch of those in
(06:20):
in the next couple of weeks.So it's a good time to get on
the schedule and start that conversation.Of course, you guys work. We're
talking with with Andrew in that lastsegment, he was talking about working through
winter. A lot of people don'trealize you guys at Ham's Arborcare, you
are working well through the winter.And as a matter of fact, it's
it's a great time of year tohave have work done on your trees.
(06:42):
And when it comes to to pruningand other things that you guys are able
to do. Tree damage and thosetype of type of things. You guys
can really do some great work duringthe winter months, can't you. Yeah,
you know, hailing from North Dakota, I'm not a stranger to the
cold and was never an issue togo out and work. The winters in
(07:03):
Wisconsin are gentler than in North Dakota, and so yeah, we you know,
all the removals and pruning and alot of the pruning, it's nice
to see the structure of the treewithout the leaves, you know, and
especially for the training prunings that wedo, it's nice to have the leaves
(07:25):
off the tree. The deadwood isactually visible. That's one of the most
common questions. How can you tellwhat's dead without the leaves on the tree?
Because we can see the deadwood,the leaves aren't in the way.
And so winter is a great timeto do all aspects of physical tree work.
(07:46):
And then of course your gardens areasleep, so we have a little
less novelty to avoid exactly. Talkingthis morning with Kevin Ham of hams Arborcare
the website Hamsarburcare dot com. That'sh a m m as Arborcare dot com.
Great time to talk with Kevin.Whether you're looking to do a planting,
if you want to check on theestablished trees that you have, make
(08:07):
sure that they're developing properly and aregoing to last a long time. Kevin
and the team at Hams Arborcare loveto help you out. I just pick
up phone, get a call thismorning eight six six five nine six five
three nine six. That's eight sixsix five nine six five three nine six
before we wrap this morning. Kevin, we often talk about and think about
like invasive weeds and those type ofthings. I'd asked you earlier about buckthorn
(08:28):
because I've been reading a lot aboutit. I've seen some uh on on
on the land behind my house andI thought, what is with this stuff
in this time of year. It'sstill got its leaves on it. There
seemed to be some type of barriers, and I thought, why is why
is buckthorn so despised? And Ithought, well, who better to ask
than Kevin? What is so?What's with with buckthorn? Why? Why
(08:48):
is it such a problem. Yeah, it's from Europe and that's not the
problem, but it tends to getit leaves first in the spring and hangs
on to them. They're still photosysinesssizing even now. They stay green laid
into the fall, and so theyhave a longer growing season than your typical
(09:11):
plant. And then the berries theythey can be eaten by birds during the
season. They've been kind of ripefor a month or so now and then
they'll make the bird sick and it'llspit it up, but it's stratified in
its stomach and so it will germinateyet in the fall here, so it's
(09:33):
got a jump start the next springas a little seed lean. And so
they really have some aspects to themthat are you know, lend themselves to
invasiveness, and so they'll take overa forest floor and because they can come
out in the spring before the forestleaps out, so they get a good
(09:56):
jump start and they'll just be thickand he can't even get through. And
then they don't actually have a thorn. It's a false thorn. It's like
a terminal, like a growth thatthat terminates and then it gets sharp and
they'll get you. I mean it'sa thorn in that regard. But so
they're they're gnarly, you know,they're stiff like a crab apple. They
(10:20):
do make pretty good firewood. It'sa heavy dent wood if you get a
large specimen. But if you've gota large specimen, that means one thing.
It's propagating everywhere, putting a lotof berries. So the tactics to
reduce them is to to get themcut when they're young, before they're producing
(10:41):
berries. And and then you've gotto treat the stump. So we do
a lot of you know a lotof times people have a privet hedge or
some other type of hedge and they'vegot bucks horn come up in it,
and we'll we'll cut them out andtreat that little stump within those those other
ornamentals. And then of course sometimeswe'll we'll get our big mora out and
(11:03):
we'll mow it down. You know, we'll treat large areas trying to restore
oak savannah or something. We'll getsome jobs like that where we try to
open up a formally more open areabecause it can get to be fifteen twenty
(11:24):
feet tall and really shade out everything. I can see. It's it's interesting
because because as you know, asgetting your getting your knowledge on this,
I can see how This could becomea problem where folks maybe bought them and
maybe years ago when they were imported, thinking oh it's you know, we
talk about it. It grows well, it leaves out early and keeps its
leaves longer. It's got these berries, and people like homeowners are probably like,
(11:46):
oh, that's a perfect that'd beperfect for my yard. Then start
durable. Yeah, it's durable.Yeah, they start learning some of the
other things like oh, my goodness, conquence that is if you've got some
questionable trees, and of course wonderingabout how to take care of them.
Kevin and the team at Hams Barbacare, maybe you do have that buck thorn.
(12:07):
Kevin and the team at Hams Barbacarelove talks. You pick up phone,
give a call this morning eight sixsix five nine six five three nine
six. That's eight six six fivenine six five three nine six. The
website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's ha m MS Arborcare dot com. Also,
don't forget about Game of Trees dotcom. Pick up some of that
fantastic biochar soap for yourself and alsomakes a great gift as well. Again
(12:28):
that available for you right at gameoftreesdot com. Kevin, it's always great
chatting with you, my friend.You enjoy your day and we'll talk real
soon. Thank you, Sean.Take care news is on deck. Next
here on thirteen ten w u ibA
Eight, nineteen thirteen ten WIBA andasked the experts hanging out this morning with
Kevin Ham, a master arborist athams Arborcare the website hams Arborcare dot com.
That's h A m ms arborcare dotcom. Tell for number eight sixty
six five nine six five three ninesix, that's eight six six five nine
six five three nine six and joiningus this morning live from the Peace Garden
(00:34):
State. I do believe is whatthey call North Dakota, mister Kevin Ham,
Kevin for folks that don't know,you are originally from North Dakota,
aren't you. I am. Indeed, I grew up in Fargo, North
Dakota, Fargo. What do youthink of the movie? Yeah, well,
you know those murders were real thatthey say that actually occurred, not
(00:55):
exactly how the movie portraded, butyeah, that was I did watch the
movie. It was if they wouldhave had my chip or they would have
got away. Oh yeh, it'sgreat to talk with you. By the
way, did I tell the storylast week of how I don't know if
I did. I've been telling thestory so much that I tend to forget
if I repeat myself did we talklast week about folks asking me about why
(01:19):
I smelled so good? Did Itell you this story yet? I don't
think you did. Okay, I'vehad a number of people in the past
week couple of weeks actually say tome, why do you smell so like?
Your hairs asking you? Ask mewhat cologne do you wear you smell
(01:41):
so good? And you know what, I said, like, I don't
wear cologne generally on weekends when thewife and I are going out to dinner
or something, I might a littlesport. I said, it's it's the
soap. And tell them, Isaid, you've got a head on over
the Game of Trees, So Ihope you get some orders from that Game
of Trees dot com because people peopleare impressed, and I'm impressed with it.
(02:02):
On your the salt that you thatyou sell at Game of Trees dot
com. People are impressed with howgreat and I think it smells fantastic as
well. But people are taking thewhole trifecta of essential oils. It's got
eucalyptus, uh cedar, and pineessential oil, so it kind of gives
this, you know, all threeof those are fairly you know aramaic and
(02:25):
and so it really has a goodcombination there. It is smells like all
the best parts of a wood shop. And it takes off eyeliner. It
takes off and I have not foundanything else that does, so just just
FYI, that's awesome. It offtakes off the cast or oil in there
(02:46):
is that glathered up for the shampoois the cast oil. So there you
know some of the secret that you'regiving them all away this morning. The
biggest secret though is order on lineright now a game of Trees dot com.
That's Game of Trees dot com.You can order yourself a few bars
and the special people in your lifepeople in your life as well. It's
(03:08):
it's a really an amazing product.And Kevin, we've got we've got tree
stuff to talk about as well thismorning. And uh speaking of different different
ways because of course with the UHwith the with the biochar that's used in
your soap, you also use itof course to help with the with trees,
and of course people use it ontheir lawns as well. And speaking
(03:29):
of ways that you help trees arethrough injections. Are not talking about biochar
injections, other types of injections arekind of wrapping that up for the season,
aren't you. Yeah, it's kindof one of the last things we
do is the soil injections for uhbronze birch boor, two line chestnut boor
and Japanese beetle. And you know, we do that in the spring as
(03:50):
well. But we've kind of gota cadre that fall in the you know,
in the autumn, and then wehave a cadre that falls in the
spring. And it's kind of aboutyou know, when you were uh enlisted
to speak, so if if welook at your tree sometime in August or
something, we probably lined you upto the fall and and then you just
(04:13):
kind of stay on the fall rotation. So we've got some uh those things
finishing up. We we finished upthe biochart last week. We're we'll probably
we'll be doing some lawn applications herecoming up here. That will probably be
the last thing that we do becausethat's a good thing to put down in
the late fall. But we've gotsome good soil moisture going in. We'll
(04:33):
be planting some trees this uh thisweek, and that that high soil moisture
going in the fall. Is isalways a good good thing to go in
the winter and get a nice hardfreeze for your new trees that are planted.
Does that does that moisture obviously thetrees love the moisture, But does
(04:54):
that help you mention that hard hardfreeze that almost create like a like an
insulating shell on the on the topsurface of the so oil is that is
that? Parsonally? Why it doesit keeps you know, it reduces the
drying effect of you know, becauseoftentimes the air moisture is drier in the
winter, and so you can geta little bit of drying effect through the
(05:14):
winter if you don't have snow cover, of course, and sometimes we do
have open ground. So if ifyou have open ground and you have a
hard freeze, you know that thatdoes provide a little uh inflating barrier.
You know. I saw a pictureyou post, I think it was on
your Instagram of a bunch of yourtrees lined up ready to ready to go
(05:35):
out and be be placed on people'sproperty, out in people's yards, And
Kevin, I got to tell you, I know we were talking the other
week as folks talk about leaves changingand falling off trees and it's a great
time. Even even if you geta tree and it's it's bare right now,
people are going, wait a second, I don't know, it's it's
obviously trees doing it things. It'sa great time to get a planted.
Those trees look beautiful that you thatyou share it on your on your I
(05:57):
think it was your Instagram page.Really nice look in trees and those look
great in somebody's yard. Yeah,they've got a good color spectrum across across
the nursery there and even though ourcrab apples that we have have good ball
color and so that was yeah,it was kind of nice. Nice to
take a shot of that. Andwe'll be putting a bunch of those in
(06:20):
in the next couple of weeks.So it's a good time to get on
the schedule and start that conversation.Of course, you guys work. We're
talking with with Andrew in that lastsegment, he was talking about working through
winter. A lot of people don'trealize you guys at Ham's Arborcare, you
are working well through the winter.And as a matter of fact, it's
it's a great time of year tohave have work done on your trees.
(06:42):
And when it comes to to pruningand other things that you guys are able
to do. Tree damage and thosetype of type of things. You guys
can really do some great work duringthe winter months, can't you. Yeah,
you know, hailing from North Dakota, I'm not a stranger to the
cold and was never an issue togo out and work. The winters in
(07:03):
Wisconsin are gentler than in North Dakota, and so yeah, we you know,
all the removals and pruning and alot of the pruning, it's nice
to see the structure of the treewithout the leaves, you know, and
especially for the training prunings that wedo, it's nice to have the leaves
(07:25):
off the tree. The deadwood isactually visible. That's one of the most
common questions. How can you tellwhat's dead without the leaves on the tree?
Because we can see the deadwood,the leaves aren't in the way.
And so winter is a great timeto do all aspects of physical tree work.
(07:46):
And then of course your gardens areasleep, so we have a little
less novelty to avoid exactly. Talkingthis morning with Kevin Ham of hams Arborcare
the website Hamsarburcare dot com. That'sh a m m as Arborcare dot com.
Great time to talk with Kevin.Whether you're looking to do a planting,
if you want to check on theestablished trees that you have, make
(08:07):
sure that they're developing properly and aregoing to last a long time. Kevin
and the team at Hams Arborcare loveto help you out. I just pick
up phone, get a call thismorning eight six six five nine six five
three nine six. That's eight sixsix five nine six five three nine six
before we wrap this morning. Kevin, we often talk about and think about
like invasive weeds and those type ofthings. I'd asked you earlier about buckthorn
(08:28):
because I've been reading a lot aboutit. I've seen some uh on on
on the land behind my house andI thought, what is with this stuff
in this time of year. It'sstill got its leaves on it. There
seemed to be some type of barriers, and I thought, why is why
is buckthorn so despised? And Ithought, well, who better to ask
than Kevin? What is so?What's with with buckthorn? Why? Why
(08:48):
is it such a problem. Yeah, it's from Europe and that's not the
problem, but it tends to getit leaves first in the spring and hangs
on to them. They're still photosysinesssizing even now. They stay green laid
into the fall, and so theyhave a longer growing season than your typical
(09:11):
plant. And then the berries theythey can be eaten by birds during the
season. They've been kind of ripefor a month or so now and then
they'll make the bird sick and it'llspit it up, but it's stratified in
its stomach and so it will germinateyet in the fall here, so it's
(09:33):
got a jump start the next springas a little seed lean. And so
they really have some aspects to themthat are you know, lend themselves to
invasiveness, and so they'll take overa forest floor and because they can come
out in the spring before the forestleaps out, so they get a good
(09:56):
jump start and they'll just be thickand he can't even get through. And
then they don't actually have a thorn. It's a false thorn. It's like
a terminal, like a growth thatthat terminates and then it gets sharp and
they'll get you. I mean it'sa thorn in that regard. But so
they're they're gnarly, you know,they're stiff like a crab apple. They
(10:20):
do make pretty good firewood. It'sa heavy dent wood if you get a
large specimen. But if you've gota large specimen, that means one thing.
It's propagating everywhere, putting a lotof berries. So the tactics to
reduce them is to to get themcut when they're young, before they're producing
(10:41):
berries. And and then you've gotto treat the stump. So we do
a lot of you know a lotof times people have a privet hedge or
some other type of hedge and they'vegot bucks horn come up in it,
and we'll we'll cut them out andtreat that little stump within those those other
ornamentals. And then of course sometimeswe'll we'll get our big mora out and
(11:03):
we'll mow it down. You know, we'll treat large areas trying to restore
oak savannah or something. We'll getsome jobs like that where we try to
open up a formally more open areabecause it can get to be fifteen twenty
(11:24):
feet tall and really shade out everything. I can see. It's it's interesting
because because as you know, asgetting your getting your knowledge on this,
I can see how This could becomea problem where folks maybe bought them and
maybe years ago when they were imported, thinking oh it's you know, we
talk about it. It grows well, it leaves out early and keeps its
leaves longer. It's got these berries, and people like homeowners are probably like,
(11:46):
oh, that's a perfect that'd beperfect for my yard. Then start
durable. Yeah, it's durable.Yeah, they start learning some of the
other things like oh, my goodness, conquence that is if you've got some
questionable trees, and of course wonderingabout how to take care of them.
Kevin and the team at Hams Barbacare, maybe you do have that buck thorn.
(12:07):
Kevin and the team at Hams Barbacarelove talks. You pick up phone,
give a call this morning eight sixsix five nine six five three nine
six. That's eight six six fivenine six five three nine six. The
website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's ha m MS Arborcare dot com. Also,
don't forget about Game of Trees dotcom. Pick up some of that
fantastic biochar soap for yourself and alsomakes a great gift as well. Again
(12:28):
that available for you right at gameoftreesdot com. Kevin, it's always great
chatting with you, my friend.You enjoy your day and we'll talk real
soon. Thank you, Sean.Take care news is on deck. Next
here on thirteen ten w u ibA
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