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Speaker 1 (00:05):
One thirteen wy MEA. You know that beautiful ditty that
means it's time and chat with our good friend Kevin Ham,
master arborist with hams Arborcare the website Hamsarborcare dot com.
That's H A M. M. Sarborcare dot com. So you
have websites as well. If you haven't been over to
gameof Trees dot com, you definitely need to do that also.
(00:25):
That's Game of Trees dot com. Telephon number frames Arborcare
eight six six five nine six five three nine six.
That's eight six six five nine six five three nine six. Kevin.
How you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Doing great? Sean? You know I'm up at the farm.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Tech Days Farm Tech Days.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I had to stay in my hotel room here for
the show because there's not a lot, a lot of signal.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
In beautiful uh Bear Creek, Wisconsin. I do believe, am
I right on that?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah? Yeah, you're look at you all in Miss Davia
and where.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I get I. I do my part to uh to
do a lot for folks that know there's a don't know,
there's a lot of research that goes into each week's program.
But uh, you're you're up there for the Wisconsin Farm
Technology Days and uh and you've got some paid uh
portage and main boilers, don't you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, that is what we're representing. They had had a
booth and uh they let me bring my My Game
of Trees isn't real well known in the farming community,
but becoming a little more so here. We've we've moved
a little soap and uh, we're we've gotten some good
leads on the boilers. So yeah, it's a lot of
(01:42):
a lot of good stuff up there. There's farmers listening
right now. You know, it's your tomorrow today and tomorrow
it's a.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's a popular time of day for farmers to be listening.
I know, I know they they a lot of them
out work and will be will be listening. And uh
and it's a great, great event going on again. Kevin,
you're up there, of course representing the portage and main
boilers that of course you have available at gameoftrees dot
com as well as Ham's Arborcare. Folks can learn more
about that online. Kevin. Probably a year ago now, we
(02:12):
had talked about a dispute, a property dispute in the
town of Brooklyn at very and it we've got heated
threats and other I mean people, and for real quick
before we kind of get into some of the details
of this and also kind of broaden it out a
little bit, just make a little more applicable for everybody
when it comes to when it comes to this type
of things. People don't realize it. But there's a lot
(02:35):
of emotion connected to trees, isn't there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh? Yeah, And you know, just recently in my own experience,
it's not always with what people would call a desirable tree. Yeah,
but it's their tree, and so that makes it meaningful
to them. And when they're property line trees or it's
acting the neighbor in some way, shape or form in
(03:03):
this building was getting impacted. Uh, you know, it can
get very emotional. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And with that, and and for folks that that are saying,
what's the whole story there? I know Robbins reported it
this morning as well. But there was a tree that
was a very large tree growing between two buildings on
the village of Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Uh. It was like a Siberian elm.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Do we see many of those around around these parts?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
There's my segue into the undesirable tree.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yes, that's good. H And I see springing up between
these two buildings. And with trees like that that Kevin
like that are whether they're like on a property line.
And we I know we've talked past two about you
being called in to testify as an expert witness in
some of these these disputes, and and those type of
trees as well that are that are viewed by many
(03:53):
as being undesirable, there is there is room to to
to remove them and then find find a proper replacement,
probably in this case of the Brooklyn Village Brooklyn case,
in a better area. But one of the great things
is not only can you at Amsarborcare, you guys can
remove the trees, but you can also then help them
(04:14):
find a find a more desirable tree and a more
desirable location, can't you.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah? Absolutely, and even you know there's something that could
go in that type location. Yeah, you just have to
be to be appropriate. That was planted by noble, you know,
the wind. It was a little samara from another Siberian
elm that floated there and started growing and no one,
no one you know, watched it until they did and
(04:42):
then they thought, oh, yeah, I want to let that
tree grow and not realizing that it would be you know,
four feet diameter and encroaching on the buildings.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What and Kevin is as we talked this morning about
about you know, trees, you know, desirable, undesirable. What are
some of the more right now trees out there that
that you're getting a lot of folks calling and and
really looking and and and asking to ask you to
have planted. What are some of the very very popular
varieties and and also I'm also curious about some of
(05:14):
the some of the ones that you're recommending as well
for folks.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, well, definitely, you know, maples and oaks, swamp white
oak is getting planted much more readily. I'm seeing it
on the a lot of the municipalities are now lived
Kentucky it's another one that's being propagated. And and that's
(05:39):
that's a little tough sell for people. We've got some
uh they're kind of the ugly duckley. Oh uh, they're
going to be a stately tree. But right now, you know,
you don't feel like you have much. But but for
those that know, they know, and so those are being
put in a lot by municipalities. And then some days
(06:02):
somebody's going to go by and go, oh, what's that tree?
And they want it, and then you put one in
and they wonder, well, when will it look like that?
You know, and about you know, five ten years. The maples,
the highbred maples are being planted, and it's important to
to try to spread these out. You know, so when
(06:23):
you're looking at your yard, you want to look at
your neighborhood. You know, trees like this do I have here?
You might have some neighborhoods to have a whole you know,
a lot of honeylocust. You know, that's a pop street tree.
And the difficulty in municipality is the harsh environment of
the terrace and so there's a limited number of trees
(06:47):
that do well on the terrace and so then we
try to we end up gravitating towards certain ones. But
in your yard you can have you know, autumn brilliant
service berry, you know, Japanese tree, lilac, different smaller trees
that will grow nice by the house.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Kevin does some of this, you know, looking for that variety. Obviously,
you know, having a variety is it looks great, but
is there also like kind of like a utilitarian but
also kind of a as we've seen with what's happened
with ash trees and you know those type of things
is having you know, your eggs and multiple baskets just
in case as these type of things happen, you're not
(07:27):
losing everything. Is that is that part of that thinking
as well?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, diversity, You just you want to you want to
put distance between different types of trees, you know, And
and there's always that tendency somebody wants to driveway line
with autumn blaze maples, you know, and so I've seen
driveways with twenty autumn blaze maples. Well that's a lot
of maintenance, if you if you know anything about autumn
(07:52):
blaze maples, and if you don't maintain them, well then
they're just going to be falling apart over the years.
And and so you want to be able to, you know,
alternate those with other with other varieties, and you don't
have that uniformity. But when that uniformity goes away, all
it wants if the you know, Asian longhorn beetle, which
(08:14):
has been eradicated in a lot of places, if it
pops up again, which it did out east recently, that
goes for Maples and Chicago not too many years ago,
had to remove thousands of maples, you know, whole neighborhoods
because it was every tree.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I want to ask you as we talked about some
of the you know, as kind of started this conversation
off with a tree that needed to be removed, and
then of course looking to looking to plant trees that
are in the right spot, the right tree for the
right spot. Something we touch on our Legacy Trees that
you guys carry at at Ham's Arborcare and some of
the amazing benefits to these trees. It's really about starting
(08:53):
them from day one, starting them off right, and then
not just kind of abandoning of making sure that that
they get that solid start so they develop into into
very strong, very lasting trees. And it's an amazing program
you guys have at Ham's Arborcare.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, you know, and it starts with the nursery. So
Legacy Trees is doing a wonderful job on getting these
trees off to a good start with a good roots structure,
and then we were able to you know, get them
in the ground. We provide a five year warranty and
so we're we're you know, giving that we had a
(09:31):
situation recently where we had to go outside of our
legacy trees to get a tree because they wanted a
particular tree, and that particular tree was only available in
you know, container grown trees, and you know, a container
ground tree can have circling roots and it can be
root bound, and then the watering requirements are pretty high.
(09:56):
And we had this tree to die in the ninety
degree heat recently because it didn't get water during that
two or three day period. And the client was contending that, oh,
there's no way it could die of that quickly, could it? Well,
yes it can. On a tree that's a container grown
(10:17):
tree or a ball and burd lap tree where the
roots are are not well established, it could die very quickly.
And what I love about the legacy trees is they
get it off to that good start. We've got a
they call it a Brownie because it's in a shape
of a rectangle and it's very good root structure, and
(10:41):
it's full of all fine roots, and it reaches outside
of that space very quickly after planting, and so we find,
you know, we don't have that street a window risk
of losing that tree, and it's just a far superior thing.
So starting out with that and then watching it year
by year for five years and doing that little training
(11:03):
pruning here and there so that you're not getting a breakout.
Those are very key aspects of what we provide.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's pretty, it's a it's a pretty great, great service
and again great data. Start that conversation. Looking to plant
that beautiful tree. Maybe you've got that troublesome tree and
you want to make sure that it's handled properly. Kevin,
the team at Hams Barborcare love to work you, love
to talk with you. Great great data, pickup, phone game call,
real easy to start that conversation. Eight six six five
(11:31):
nine six five three nine six. That's eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. If you're heading
up to Wisconsin Farm Technology Days, whether you're driving in
or flying in, Kevin will love to see you there
as well. You can learn more, of course about Hams
Barborcare on their website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h a
m Msarborcare dot com. Kevin, it's always great chatting you
(11:53):
have a great day and enjoy your time up in
beautiful Bear Creek, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Thank you, Sean taking care
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Kevin ham Ham's Haarborcare News comes your way next here
on thirteen ten Wibi
One thirteen wy MEA. You know that beautiful ditty that
means it's time and chat with our good friend Kevin Ham,
master arborist with hams Arborcare the website Hamsarborcare dot com.
That's H A M. M. Sarborcare dot com. So you
have websites as well. If you haven't been over to
gameof Trees dot com, you definitely need to do that also.
(00:25):
That's Game of Trees dot com. Telephon number frames Arborcare
eight six six five nine six five three nine six.
That's eight six six five nine six five three nine six. Kevin.
How you doing this morning?
Speaker 2 (00:39):
Doing great? Sean? You know I'm up at the farm.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Tech Days Farm Tech Days.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I had to stay in my hotel room here for
the show because there's not a lot, a lot of signal.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
In beautiful uh Bear Creek, Wisconsin. I do believe, am
I right on that?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Yeah? Yeah, you're look at you all in Miss Davia
and where.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I get I. I do my part to uh to
do a lot for folks that know there's a don't know,
there's a lot of research that goes into each week's program.
But uh, you're you're up there for the Wisconsin Farm
Technology Days and uh and you've got some paid uh
portage and main boilers, don't you.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Yeah, that is what we're representing. They had had a
booth and uh they let me bring my My Game
of Trees isn't real well known in the farming community,
but becoming a little more so here. We've we've moved
a little soap and uh, we're we've gotten some good
leads on the boilers. So yeah, it's a lot of
(01:42):
a lot of good stuff up there. There's farmers listening
right now. You know, it's your tomorrow today and tomorrow
it's a.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
It's a popular time of day for farmers to be listening.
I know, I know they they a lot of them
out work and will be will be listening. And uh
and it's a great, great event going on again. Kevin,
you're up there, of course representing the portage and main
boilers that of course you have available at gameoftrees dot
com as well as Ham's Arborcare. Folks can learn more
about that online. Kevin. Probably a year ago now, we
(02:12):
had talked about a dispute, a property dispute in the
town of Brooklyn at very and it we've got heated
threats and other I mean people, and for real quick
before we kind of get into some of the details
of this and also kind of broaden it out a
little bit, just make a little more applicable for everybody
when it comes to when it comes to this type
of things. People don't realize it. But there's a lot
(02:35):
of emotion connected to trees, isn't there.
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Oh? Yeah, And you know, just recently in my own experience,
it's not always with what people would call a desirable tree. Yeah,
but it's their tree, and so that makes it meaningful
to them. And when they're property line trees or it's
acting the neighbor in some way, shape or form in
(03:03):
this building was getting impacted. Uh, you know, it can
get very emotional. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
And with that, and and for folks that that are saying,
what's the whole story there? I know Robbins reported it
this morning as well. But there was a tree that
was a very large tree growing between two buildings on
the village of Brooklyn.
Speaker 2 (03:22):
Uh. It was like a Siberian elm.
Speaker 1 (03:26):
Do we see many of those around around these parts?
Speaker 2 (03:28):
There's my segue into the undesirable tree.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
Yes, that's good. H And I see springing up between
these two buildings. And with trees like that that Kevin
like that are whether they're like on a property line.
And we I know we've talked past two about you
being called in to testify as an expert witness in
some of these these disputes, and and those type of
trees as well that are that are viewed by many
(03:53):
as being undesirable, there is there is room to to
to remove them and then find find a proper replacement,
probably in this case of the Brooklyn Village Brooklyn case,
in a better area. But one of the great things
is not only can you at Amsarborcare, you guys can
remove the trees, but you can also then help them
(04:14):
find a find a more desirable tree and a more
desirable location, can't you.
Speaker 2 (04:20):
Yeah? Absolutely, and even you know there's something that could
go in that type location. Yeah, you just have to
be to be appropriate. That was planted by noble, you know,
the wind. It was a little samara from another Siberian
elm that floated there and started growing and no one,
no one you know, watched it until they did and
(04:42):
then they thought, oh, yeah, I want to let that
tree grow and not realizing that it would be you know,
four feet diameter and encroaching on the buildings.
Speaker 1 (04:53):
What and Kevin is as we talked this morning about
about you know, trees, you know, desirable, undesirable. What are
some of the more right now trees out there that
that you're getting a lot of folks calling and and
really looking and and and asking to ask you to
have planted. What are some of the very very popular
varieties and and also I'm also curious about some of
(05:14):
the some of the ones that you're recommending as well
for folks.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Yeah, well, definitely, you know, maples and oaks, swamp white
oak is getting planted much more readily. I'm seeing it
on the a lot of the municipalities are now lived
Kentucky it's another one that's being propagated. And and that's
(05:39):
that's a little tough sell for people. We've got some
uh they're kind of the ugly duckley. Oh uh, they're
going to be a stately tree. But right now, you know,
you don't feel like you have much. But but for
those that know, they know, and so those are being
put in a lot by municipalities. And then some days
(06:02):
somebody's going to go by and go, oh, what's that tree?
And they want it, and then you put one in
and they wonder, well, when will it look like that?
You know, and about you know, five ten years. The maples,
the highbred maples are being planted, and it's important to
to try to spread these out. You know, so when
(06:23):
you're looking at your yard, you want to look at
your neighborhood. You know, trees like this do I have here?
You might have some neighborhoods to have a whole you know,
a lot of honeylocust. You know, that's a pop street tree.
And the difficulty in municipality is the harsh environment of
the terrace and so there's a limited number of trees
(06:47):
that do well on the terrace and so then we
try to we end up gravitating towards certain ones. But
in your yard you can have you know, autumn brilliant
service berry, you know, Japanese tree, lilac, different smaller trees
that will grow nice by the house.
Speaker 1 (07:05):
Kevin does some of this, you know, looking for that variety. Obviously,
you know, having a variety is it looks great, but
is there also like kind of like a utilitarian but
also kind of a as we've seen with what's happened
with ash trees and you know those type of things
is having you know, your eggs and multiple baskets just
in case as these type of things happen, you're not
(07:27):
losing everything. Is that is that part of that thinking
as well?
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, diversity, You just you want to you want to
put distance between different types of trees, you know, And
and there's always that tendency somebody wants to driveway line
with autumn blaze maples, you know, and so I've seen
driveways with twenty autumn blaze maples. Well that's a lot
of maintenance, if you if you know anything about autumn
(07:52):
blaze maples, and if you don't maintain them, well then
they're just going to be falling apart over the years.
And and so you want to be able to, you know,
alternate those with other with other varieties, and you don't
have that uniformity. But when that uniformity goes away, all
it wants if the you know, Asian longhorn beetle, which
(08:14):
has been eradicated in a lot of places, if it
pops up again, which it did out east recently, that
goes for Maples and Chicago not too many years ago,
had to remove thousands of maples, you know, whole neighborhoods
because it was every tree.
Speaker 1 (08:32):
I want to ask you as we talked about some
of the you know, as kind of started this conversation
off with a tree that needed to be removed, and
then of course looking to looking to plant trees that
are in the right spot, the right tree for the
right spot. Something we touch on our Legacy Trees that
you guys carry at at Ham's Arborcare and some of
the amazing benefits to these trees. It's really about starting
(08:53):
them from day one, starting them off right, and then
not just kind of abandoning of making sure that that
they get that solid start so they develop into into
very strong, very lasting trees. And it's an amazing program
you guys have at Ham's Arborcare.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
Yeah, you know, and it starts with the nursery. So
Legacy Trees is doing a wonderful job on getting these
trees off to a good start with a good roots structure,
and then we were able to you know, get them
in the ground. We provide a five year warranty and
so we're we're you know, giving that we had a
(09:31):
situation recently where we had to go outside of our
legacy trees to get a tree because they wanted a
particular tree, and that particular tree was only available in
you know, container grown trees, and you know, a container
ground tree can have circling roots and it can be
root bound, and then the watering requirements are pretty high.
(09:56):
And we had this tree to die in the ninety
degree heat recently because it didn't get water during that
two or three day period. And the client was contending that, oh,
there's no way it could die of that quickly, could it? Well,
yes it can. On a tree that's a container grown
(10:17):
tree or a ball and burd lap tree where the
roots are are not well established, it could die very quickly.
And what I love about the legacy trees is they
get it off to that good start. We've got a
they call it a Brownie because it's in a shape
of a rectangle and it's very good root structure, and
(10:41):
it's full of all fine roots, and it reaches outside
of that space very quickly after planting, and so we find,
you know, we don't have that street a window risk
of losing that tree, and it's just a far superior thing.
So starting out with that and then watching it year
by year for five years and doing that little training
(11:03):
pruning here and there so that you're not getting a breakout.
Those are very key aspects of what we provide.
Speaker 1 (11:11):
It's pretty, it's a it's a pretty great, great service
and again great data. Start that conversation. Looking to plant
that beautiful tree. Maybe you've got that troublesome tree and
you want to make sure that it's handled properly. Kevin,
the team at Hams Barborcare love to work you, love
to talk with you. Great great data, pickup, phone game call,
real easy to start that conversation. Eight six six five
(11:31):
nine six five three nine six. That's eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. If you're heading
up to Wisconsin Farm Technology Days, whether you're driving in
or flying in, Kevin will love to see you there
as well. You can learn more, of course about Hams
Barborcare on their website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h a
m Msarborcare dot com. Kevin, it's always great chatting you
(11:53):
have a great day and enjoy your time up in
beautiful Bear Creek, Wisconsin.
Speaker 2 (11:58):
Thank you, Sean taking care
Speaker 1 (12:00):
Kevin ham Ham's Haarborcare News comes your way next here
on thirteen ten Wibi
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