October 18, 2023 • 11 mins
Kevin talks about what you can have done to your trees at this time of year and how arborists can tell which branches are dead - even if they don't have leaves.
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(00:11):
Ten Wiba and ask the experts joinedthis morning, I get much a better
expert than this. Master arborist KevinHam with hams Arborcare the website, Hey
Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h AM. M as Arborcare dot com.
Great website to learn more about theteam at hams Arborcare. Tell for what
number eight sixty six five nine sixfive three nine six. That's eight sixty
(00:32):
six five nine six five three ninesix. Kevin, How you doing this
morning? Doing pretty good? John? You know, it is a beautiful
day in the time of year wherekind of trees get their opportunity to show
their stuff. I saw some colorchange reports coming in from parts of the
state. I'm still still just alittle here, a little there around these
(00:52):
parts. But real quick before weget rolling on this week's conversation for folks,
A wonder and I am one ofthose people. What causes the color
change in the leaves this time ofyear for certain species of trees? Yeah,
so the chlorophyll, which everybody knowsis green, right, Yes,
Uh, that that starts to diminishand then the other colors which are subordinate
(01:17):
start to show. So it's notreally it's not really turning to that color,
it's actually losing the color green,which is revealing the other color that
was there. Yes, they're allalong. So in the spring often times,
uh, you'll see leaves will comeout and they'll there'll be a different
(01:37):
color like red, red maple.The it's the r room will will kind
of have a reddish leave emergence andthere and they're little samaras are red when
they emerge, and then that radicallycovered by the green as the least developed,
and then in the fall then thatred gets revealed once again. You
(02:00):
know, it's a good time totalk about, Kevin. As we're talking
about beautiful trees that you know thatchange color and autumn and fall, it's
good time to think about planting somethinglike that. I know for a lot
of people, some of their treasuresare there trees and some of their most
their most prized trees are the onesthat the ones that change color. And
uh, there are some amazing Ithink we've talked about that maybe probably a
(02:23):
year ago on this very day,Kevin. Different cultivars, different different trees
available that you guys can can planta Ham's arborcare that really have not only
they have great color, but they'rethey're just very very well well well I
don't know why these are pollin.I don't even know what that is.
But the trees themselves are just they'reamazing structures in and of themselves. Yeah,
(02:45):
and you know the thing with ourLegacy Trees is it's the the root
structure that they're established with in thenursery is mimicking the forest. And so
for all of eternity of nurserymen,uh, they the process that don't exactly
(03:06):
mimic the forest, and you getthese crazy root structures that occur in girdling
roots and all kinds of scenarios thatthat end up happening. And for a
long time, you know, asarbarus, we've been mitigating these things by
how we plant them. We've gotto dig down in the rookball and find
the root player, and then sometimesthere's a false roots player, you know,
(03:29):
and you just there's no correcting whathas been done in the nursery,
and so you have these permanent deformationsoftentimes. And I made an Instagram post
showing some of those. Uh ronZiemer, the owner of Legacy Trees,
has an extensive collection of roots andwhen he worked as the Milwaukee City forester,
(03:59):
you know, and pull trees outof the ground, and he'd keep
those rooks. He's kind of ageek like that, right, and so
they're kind of like me. That'swhy I can say that. And uh,
and so it's this great collection thatthat really displays what occurs. And
then you look at a legacy treethat's pulled out of the ground, it's
just this great rub plate that lookslike it just grew in the forest.
(04:21):
And and that's that's the main value. But what you can't even see,
uh, as far as fall colorgoes our nursery, of course, we've
got you know, standing trees thatwere ready to put in turning brilliant colors.
Of course, the maples to havevarying degrees, and the crab apples,
(04:42):
you know, are they have somegreat fall color. And our service
berriers to have a great uh youknow, rusty orange fall color. And
and so yeah, there there candefinitely be a lot of good fall interest
with all of our trees. Andthen even hackberry is you know, a
yellow, bright yellow. The elmsare bright yellow. And and so we've
(05:09):
we've got all shapes and sizes andwe're we're excited to be able to you
know, this is a great timeof year to be putting them in.
Now you might be getting your treeand and there's no leaves on it,
sure, but trust that that's comingback around. That was in full leaf.
I should take a picture of thenursery right today. Yeah, you
(05:29):
put that. I'd love to bereally put that up on the Instagram.
And and uh and I've got toask too, Kevin. You mentioned as
we're talking a little bit about fallcolor, is some of the some of
the berrying and some of the fruitingtrees. You know that that color some
of those will retain some of thoseyou know, those berries and other things
well into the start of winter.And there's just a cool contrast when you
see some of that with some ofthose some of those berries that may be
(05:53):
left over and not picked off byby the birds and other things. It
kind of looks it kind of hasa cool look in the winter months as
well. Absolutely, I was waitingfor you to stay persistent fruit, Sean,
then I would have been really impressed. Yeah, learning yes is the
term there, And and all ofour crab apples have persistent fruits, which
(06:15):
are you know, little red bellson the tree and they'll be there for
Christmas, so you can put somelights on there and have some lights and
red red apples should be beautiful.A couple of things. So, as
we talked this morning with Kevin Hamof hams arbora Care, a great day
to have that conversation about getting thatbeautiful tree planted in your yard, those
(06:36):
legacy trees. What an amazing programthat is. Learn more online Hamsarborcare dot
com. More importantly pick up phone. Gave a call eight sixty six five
nine six five three nine six.That's eight six six five nine six five
three nine six. As we've talkedabout planting, also, it's a good
time of year for for tree carein general. As those leaves start to
(06:56):
start to come off the tree,it makes uh, it makes identifying for
someone like you with your eye andyour education understanding what's going on with the
tree. With those leaves out ofthe way, it's a really good time
for you to do an assessment ona tree, isn't it Yes? And
for our training pruning, you cansee the entire structure, especially on a
crowded tree like an autumn blaze mapleor something, and if you're listening here,
(07:19):
you probably have an autumn blaze maplejust saying and they all need pruning.
And so with the leaves off,you can see the structure and say,
okay, I want to reduce thatone that there's my central leader,
and you kind of just piece itapart like a puzzle. Also, like
on our oaks, you know,we can't start pruning till now, right
(07:40):
with our oaks after April or Octoberfifteenth, all the way to April,
and people will say, well,how do you You know you got to
get here before the leaves fall offthe tree, you know, And of
course oaks still have their leaves,and it's like, well, we don't.
And you know, how are youtell the dead wood because we can
see it because the leaves aren't inthe way. And that's you know,
(08:03):
kind of a cognitive dissonance to youraverage person. But it's true that those
buds for next year are already formed. They look real vibrant on oak trees,
so you know there's an occasional branchthat that may be succeeded in August.
That's common phenomenon where you see abranch is kind of losing its leaves
(08:26):
in August and it's probably succeeding it. It's dying. And you'll get in
the winter time and you take acloser look at that and it's like,
well the buds are there, butoh here it's kind of black. And
I'll do a little scratch test.Oh there's no chlorophyll and it's done because
there's chlorpho right under the arc that'sbeen branches of those twigs. And so
you know, a live branch isdistinctly different than a dead branch. And
(08:50):
so yeah, we love to pruneall winter long. It's a good time
to start that conversation. If youhaven't had your trees checked recently, I
want to make sure that you dobefore it's can be too late. Some
of this stuff you don't want tolose limb or other things, certainly if
if it's in an area precarious positionas well, those things can cause a
lot of damage. And of courseyou want to make sure your tree is
growing right and it's going to serveyou for a lifetime. I'll just give
(09:13):
them a call this morning. Hamsarbacare eight sixty six five nine six five
three nine six that's eight six six, five nine six five three nine six
and Kevin last week we had talkedabout kind of winding down with with injections
and other stuff. Is a lotof that that stuff done for the season.
Are still still all getting some ofthat stuff done. We have our
(09:33):
soil injections done. We're all handson deck here for a big apartment complex
job. We're doing a lot offruity and and so this week is kind
of that that project, and thennext week we'll be having some our soil
injection. So that's the last ofthe fall projects is the two line us
(10:00):
net borer treatments, the bronze birchborer treatments with our soil injected systemic insecticide.
And that's done right at the baseof the tree and we have all
the way up to the frozen groundto do that. But we'll be getting
it done here, you know,within the last week of October, first
week in November. Great data startthat conversation you mentioned, I heard Kevin
(10:22):
mentioned as well, things like apartmentcomplex and others. I know we've got
a lot of folks that have thathave rental properties and other things as well,
not just your own personal but otherproperty that you may own. That's
a great thing too, with HamsBarborcare working with you, all I got
to do this morning. Pick upphone, give them a call eight sixty
six five nine six five three ninesix. That's eight six six five nine
six five three nine six. Thewebsite Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h a
(10:46):
m Msarborcare dot com. Follow Kevinand the team on Instagram. Also,
they've got a great YouTube channel,Game of Trees with Hams Arborcare. Follow
them, like them, subscribe,check that stuff out. Always always entertaining,
really informative as well. Kevin,you enjoy this small, beautiful of
days and we will talk real soon, my friend. Thank you. Sean
think here. News comes your waynext right here on thirteen ten w U
I B A
Ten Wiba and ask the experts joinedthis morning, I get much a better
expert than this. Master arborist KevinHam with hams Arborcare the website, Hey
Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h AM. M as Arborcare dot com.
Great website to learn more about theteam at hams Arborcare. Tell for what
number eight sixty six five nine sixfive three nine six. That's eight sixty
(00:32):
six five nine six five three ninesix. Kevin, How you doing this
morning? Doing pretty good? John? You know, it is a beautiful
day in the time of year wherekind of trees get their opportunity to show
their stuff. I saw some colorchange reports coming in from parts of the
state. I'm still still just alittle here, a little there around these
(00:52):
parts. But real quick before weget rolling on this week's conversation for folks,
A wonder and I am one ofthose people. What causes the color
change in the leaves this time ofyear for certain species of trees? Yeah,
so the chlorophyll, which everybody knowsis green, right, Yes,
Uh, that that starts to diminishand then the other colors which are subordinate
(01:17):
start to show. So it's notreally it's not really turning to that color,
it's actually losing the color green,which is revealing the other color that
was there. Yes, they're allalong. So in the spring often times,
uh, you'll see leaves will comeout and they'll there'll be a different
(01:37):
color like red, red maple.The it's the r room will will kind
of have a reddish leave emergence andthere and they're little samaras are red when
they emerge, and then that radicallycovered by the green as the least developed,
and then in the fall then thatred gets revealed once again. You
(02:00):
know, it's a good time totalk about, Kevin. As we're talking
about beautiful trees that you know thatchange color and autumn and fall, it's
good time to think about planting somethinglike that. I know for a lot
of people, some of their treasuresare there trees and some of their most
their most prized trees are the onesthat the ones that change color. And
uh, there are some amazing Ithink we've talked about that maybe probably a
(02:23):
year ago on this very day,Kevin. Different cultivars, different different trees
available that you guys can can planta Ham's arborcare that really have not only
they have great color, but they'rethey're just very very well well well I
don't know why these are pollin.I don't even know what that is.
But the trees themselves are just they'reamazing structures in and of themselves. Yeah,
(02:45):
and you know the thing with ourLegacy Trees is it's the the root
structure that they're established with in thenursery is mimicking the forest. And so
for all of eternity of nurserymen,uh, they the process that don't exactly
(03:06):
mimic the forest, and you getthese crazy root structures that occur in girdling
roots and all kinds of scenarios thatthat end up happening. And for a
long time, you know, asarbarus, we've been mitigating these things by
how we plant them. We've gotto dig down in the rookball and find
the root player, and then sometimesthere's a false roots player, you know,
(03:29):
and you just there's no correcting whathas been done in the nursery,
and so you have these permanent deformationsoftentimes. And I made an Instagram post
showing some of those. Uh ronZiemer, the owner of Legacy Trees,
has an extensive collection of roots andwhen he worked as the Milwaukee City forester,
(03:59):
you know, and pull trees outof the ground, and he'd keep
those rooks. He's kind of ageek like that, right, and so
they're kind of like me. That'swhy I can say that. And uh,
and so it's this great collection thatthat really displays what occurs. And
then you look at a legacy treethat's pulled out of the ground, it's
just this great rub plate that lookslike it just grew in the forest.
(04:21):
And and that's that's the main value. But what you can't even see,
uh, as far as fall colorgoes our nursery, of course, we've
got you know, standing trees thatwere ready to put in turning brilliant colors.
Of course, the maples to havevarying degrees, and the crab apples,
(04:42):
you know, are they have somegreat fall color. And our service
berriers to have a great uh youknow, rusty orange fall color. And
and so yeah, there there candefinitely be a lot of good fall interest
with all of our trees. Andthen even hackberry is you know, a
yellow, bright yellow. The elmsare bright yellow. And and so we've
(05:09):
we've got all shapes and sizes andwe're we're excited to be able to you
know, this is a great timeof year to be putting them in.
Now you might be getting your treeand and there's no leaves on it,
sure, but trust that that's comingback around. That was in full leaf.
I should take a picture of thenursery right today. Yeah, you
(05:29):
put that. I'd love to bereally put that up on the Instagram.
And and uh and I've got toask too, Kevin. You mentioned as
we're talking a little bit about fallcolor, is some of the some of
the berrying and some of the fruitingtrees. You know that that color some
of those will retain some of thoseyou know, those berries and other things
well into the start of winter.And there's just a cool contrast when you
see some of that with some ofthose some of those berries that may be
(05:53):
left over and not picked off byby the birds and other things. It
kind of looks it kind of hasa cool look in the winter months as
well. Absolutely, I was waitingfor you to stay persistent fruit, Sean,
then I would have been really impressed. Yeah, learning yes is the
term there, And and all ofour crab apples have persistent fruits, which
(06:15):
are you know, little red bellson the tree and they'll be there for
Christmas, so you can put somelights on there and have some lights and
red red apples should be beautiful.A couple of things. So, as
we talked this morning with Kevin Hamof hams arbora Care, a great day
to have that conversation about getting thatbeautiful tree planted in your yard, those
(06:36):
legacy trees. What an amazing programthat is. Learn more online Hamsarborcare dot
com. More importantly pick up phone. Gave a call eight sixty six five
nine six five three nine six.That's eight six six five nine six five
three nine six. As we've talkedabout planting, also, it's a good
time of year for for tree carein general. As those leaves start to
(06:56):
start to come off the tree,it makes uh, it makes identifying for
someone like you with your eye andyour education understanding what's going on with the
tree. With those leaves out ofthe way, it's a really good time
for you to do an assessment ona tree, isn't it Yes? And
for our training pruning, you cansee the entire structure, especially on a
crowded tree like an autumn blaze mapleor something, and if you're listening here,
(07:19):
you probably have an autumn blaze maplejust saying and they all need pruning.
And so with the leaves off,you can see the structure and say,
okay, I want to reduce thatone that there's my central leader,
and you kind of just piece itapart like a puzzle. Also, like
on our oaks, you know,we can't start pruning till now, right
(07:40):
with our oaks after April or Octoberfifteenth, all the way to April,
and people will say, well,how do you You know you got to
get here before the leaves fall offthe tree, you know, And of
course oaks still have their leaves,and it's like, well, we don't.
And you know, how are youtell the dead wood because we can
see it because the leaves aren't inthe way. And that's you know,
(08:03):
kind of a cognitive dissonance to youraverage person. But it's true that those
buds for next year are already formed. They look real vibrant on oak trees,
so you know there's an occasional branchthat that may be succeeded in August.
That's common phenomenon where you see abranch is kind of losing its leaves
(08:26):
in August and it's probably succeeding it. It's dying. And you'll get in
the winter time and you take acloser look at that and it's like,
well the buds are there, butoh here it's kind of black. And
I'll do a little scratch test.Oh there's no chlorophyll and it's done because
there's chlorpho right under the arc that'sbeen branches of those twigs. And so
you know, a live branch isdistinctly different than a dead branch. And
(08:50):
so yeah, we love to pruneall winter long. It's a good time
to start that conversation. If youhaven't had your trees checked recently, I
want to make sure that you dobefore it's can be too late. Some
of this stuff you don't want tolose limb or other things, certainly if
if it's in an area precarious positionas well, those things can cause a
lot of damage. And of courseyou want to make sure your tree is
growing right and it's going to serveyou for a lifetime. I'll just give
(09:13):
them a call this morning. Hamsarbacare eight sixty six five nine six five
three nine six that's eight six six, five nine six five three nine six
and Kevin last week we had talkedabout kind of winding down with with injections
and other stuff. Is a lotof that that stuff done for the season.
Are still still all getting some ofthat stuff done. We have our
(09:33):
soil injections done. We're all handson deck here for a big apartment complex
job. We're doing a lot offruity and and so this week is kind
of that that project, and thennext week we'll be having some our soil
injection. So that's the last ofthe fall projects is the two line us
(10:00):
net borer treatments, the bronze birchborer treatments with our soil injected systemic insecticide.
And that's done right at the baseof the tree and we have all
the way up to the frozen groundto do that. But we'll be getting
it done here, you know,within the last week of October, first
week in November. Great data startthat conversation you mentioned, I heard Kevin
(10:22):
mentioned as well, things like apartmentcomplex and others. I know we've got
a lot of folks that have thathave rental properties and other things as well,
not just your own personal but otherproperty that you may own. That's
a great thing too, with HamsBarborcare working with you, all I got
to do this morning. Pick upphone, give them a call eight sixty
six five nine six five three ninesix. That's eight six six five nine
six five three nine six. Thewebsite Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h a
(10:46):
m Msarborcare dot com. Follow Kevinand the team on Instagram. Also,
they've got a great YouTube channel,Game of Trees with Hams Arborcare. Follow
them, like them, subscribe,check that stuff out. Always always entertaining,
really informative as well. Kevin,you enjoy this small, beautiful of
days and we will talk real soon, my friend. Thank you. Sean
think here. News comes your waynext right here on thirteen ten w U
I B A
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