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Speaker 1 (00:15):
Eight seventeen thirteen ten Wi ba All this music seems
perfect on a daylight to day also a perfect day
to be chatting with Kevin Ham, master arborist at Ham's Arborcare, Kevin,
how you doing this week?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Doing great? We've we've obviously got some frocks in the
ground with his rain water's just sitting on top of
the ground.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It is, it is. How do for when do trees
kind of start to wake up from their from their
winter winter hibernation, their winter sleep, their winter rest.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, you know, ironically, anytime the temperature gets above freezing,
the things start to move. Uh. You know, they have
corphill just under the bar, so the thin bark up
at the top of the trees is kind of photosynthesizing
all the time, even in the winter. So there's small
(01:09):
bits of activity. And you'll see in the maples if
you've done any pruning on your maples, when the weather
gets warmer like this, you'll see the STAPs start to
flow and and you know, of course they're tapping maples
now probably and that'll be interesting to see what you know,
(01:31):
if the temperature doesn't go below freezing at night, it
kind of starts to mess up the maple syrup operations
because they like the oscillating temperatures above freezing and below freezing.
So it'd be interesting to see how that lines up
this year.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I love real maple syrup. That's for sure. Got to
have our fingers crossed because we want to make sure
that we get to get a good harvest this year.
As we talk with Kevin ham Master Roberts and Hams Arbacare,
you can learn more about Kevin and the team all
on line Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h A M M
sarborcare dot com. They're tell FORH number eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. That's eight six
(02:09):
six five nine six five three nine six. And speaking
of warmer weather and pruning, what about oak trees? And
I know we're getting very very close to some communities
saying uh no more on the pruning of oak trees
and uh and even those that don't have restrictions, you
definitely want to be careful about when and how you're
doing that this time of year, don't you, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yes, you know uh. In our area, the village McFarland
is the most strict with the November first to March
uh first window uh for pruning. So we're pretty much
at the end.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, it's say to the.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Village immfarlane, we had we had one job where logistically
they they'd put us off and and now now here
we are and so we'll be we'll be doing it
in November now for that particular client, and but everywhere
else is mostly April first. For areas without ordinances. We
(03:17):
follow the Wisconsin D and R guidelines. So we watched there.
They have a little online app that does the math
of degree days for us and you can kind of
see when when the the low incidents of spread exists,
and so we may get to April fifteenth in some areas,
(03:40):
but time, we'll tell. The weather is different every single year.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's it's interesting as we look at the you know,
you mentioned degree days and you know trees even on
days that get warm, there's activity, and even year round
obviously there's activity. I know here at the station. I
know a lot of people deal with things like box
elder bugs in your life, Like where did these guys?
It's it goes from a cold day to a warm day,
and all of a sudden, there's box elders all over
(04:05):
the place, and it's like, oh, they've been just they've
been just chilling out waiting for this warm up. And
that's the same reason with with oaks, right is the
reason why has to do with not it has to
do with with little critters that go from go from
tree to tree. Am I right on that?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah? The common picnic beetle is the primary vector is
what an insect carrier is referred to as. And and
they so the degree days are tied to two things,
the life cycle of the fungus and the life cycle
of the insect. So obviously the fungus has to be present,
(04:44):
and the picnic beetle is an opportunistic feeder. And the
oak wilt fungus smells like sweet wine. It creates a
it grows under the bark of a of a red
oak tree that will did last year during the summer,
and then it has a pressure pad that fills up
(05:07):
with liquid and then breaks open the bark, and of
course the aroma can go out. I can smell it
in the woods if I'm out where it's present. So
if I can smell it, you know, an insect can
smell it. And so they go into that little fissure
that is created and they feed on that sweet wine,
(05:30):
and then they come out with dirty feet and as
they fly around and they see your pruning cut with
a little snap dripping from it or something, they stop
there for a little snack and bingo, you've got the
Russian roulette that occurs. And you know, interestingly, a tree
by itself will will make itself impervious to that within
(05:54):
forty eight hours. So even though so the overland transmission
it's only about five percent of the spread of oak wilt,
most oak quilt is spread once it's in a system
of trees, and those trees are grafted together underground via
(06:16):
root graft, and that's kind of a Russian ulette thing.
The root is growing in the ground and crosses another
root from another tree, and they press together and underground,
and then they create a web amongst themselves of joint trees.
(06:37):
And so in a pure stand of red oaks or
black oaks, red oak varieties, they will graft together underground
and it just goes from tree to tree to tree
very effectively, and so it in an ever expanding pocket
of oak wilt infection. It keeps growing through that stand.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Remember learning in kindergarten that friends share, but it's certainly
not something that you traes to be to be sharing.
As we talked this morning with Kevin Ham, amester arborist
at Ham'sarborcare the website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h a
m MS Arborcare dot com. Hope you had a chance
to check out the website. Also, if you are on
Facebook or Instagram or YouTube, they've got a great channel,
(07:22):
great Instagram videos as well. Just look for Game of
Trees Kevin hamhams Arborcarey will find them there. And I
know on your YouTube channel and I think I've seen
a couple on Instagram as well. A lot of pruning
videos you've been putting up, Kevin, really really a nice
opportunity for folks to kind of learn why they're necessary
and how you guys do it at hams Arborcare.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, we had a recent job that was with a
municipality and a lot of those training prunings are maybe
a little more drastic in approach because a municipality has
a as an objective, you know, to manage their their force,
and if they've got somebody in there, they want as
(08:07):
much value for their money as they can get and
these young trees can actually handle a lot of quote
unquote abuse. You know, they say, oh, you shouldn't remove
more than a third of the canopy of a tree. Well,
on a young tree, you can. You can do more
than that and it will it will respond, and it
(08:27):
will grow and and so on. Something where they know
they're not getting back there for another five years. The
directive was, you know, go hard if you have to.
And and so we're showing what can be done with
training pruning. And some of them were somewhat neglected, and
it was probably a pretty dramatic example. And what's going
(08:51):
to be good going forward is I'm going to be
able to follow up on these and create subsequent histories
and show the end result. I've got a lot of
interested our brisk going I want to see that in August,
you know, because they just in their mind they think, oh,
this isn't possible to do. And that's what training pruning is.
(09:14):
Is kind of a hard cell because when somebody puts
in a new tree and it's a.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Little baby, you know, it's a little tree and all
those little branches are so precious and you're taking those
off all you know, they think that branch moves up
the trunk as a tree gets taller. No, it stays
right there two feet from the ground, and it's just
going to get bigger, and so you have to remove
those lower branches. And so when you look at a.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Six foot or eight foot tall young tree, virtually every
branch on that tree is temporary. Like if you think
of a city street tree, it has ten feet of
trunk or fifteen feet of trunk. Where all those branches go,
they're gone. So every branch on a young tree, if
(10:05):
you're going to have a ten foot trunk, is a
temporary branch. It's going to be cut off. And you
want to fashion that tree to have at least a
straight enough central leader to get the trunk up above
the pedestrian activity. And so there's a process to that,
(10:27):
and it works best if you get them when they're young.
And so it can be a tough sell, you know,
because people don't have the understanding that the long range view.
I have one comment on one of these YouTube videos,
Oh that looks terrible. It was like, yeah, well, we're
not pruning this for today, We're pruning it for the grandchildren. Yes, okay,
(10:50):
it's a long term thinking. Operation and establishing a solid
structure to your tree makes that a long live tree,
and that's that's the goal.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's it's as you kind of share perspective and kind
of big picture stuff. I think that's one of the
great things about working with the folks at Ham's Arborcare
and Kevin and the team is really looking generally generationally
as saying, let's preserve and make sure that this tree
is healthy and strong for generations to come. And trees
are so rewarding and they look so great, but you
(11:24):
want to make sure that they're being taken care. If
you haven't had your trees inspected recently, if you've got
a question, maybe you've noticed something over the winter, a
tree limb that snapped or just doesn't looking right. It's
always a great day to have Kevin and the team
come on out. I got to pick a phone, give
a call eight six six five nine six five three
nine six. That's eight six six five nine six five
three nine six. You can learn more online Hamsarborcare dot com.
(11:47):
That's h A m Msarborcare dot com. Kevin, it's always
great chatting. Enjoy this beautiful look. Look at the forecast.
What a beautiful few days we've got ahead. You enjoy it,
and we'll do it all again in a week or so.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Thank you, Sean, take care.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And again that website Hamsarborcare dot com news comes your
way next. It's eight twenty nine.
Eight seventeen thirteen ten Wi ba All this music seems
perfect on a daylight to day also a perfect day
to be chatting with Kevin Ham, master arborist at Ham's Arborcare, Kevin,
how you doing this week?
Speaker 2 (00:30):
Doing great? We've we've obviously got some frocks in the
ground with his rain water's just sitting on top of
the ground.
Speaker 1 (00:37):
It is, it is. How do for when do trees
kind of start to wake up from their from their
winter winter hibernation, their winter sleep, their winter rest.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Well, you know, ironically, anytime the temperature gets above freezing,
the things start to move. Uh. You know, they have
corphill just under the bar, so the thin bark up
at the top of the trees is kind of photosynthesizing
all the time, even in the winter. So there's small
(01:09):
bits of activity. And you'll see in the maples if
you've done any pruning on your maples, when the weather
gets warmer like this, you'll see the STAPs start to
flow and and you know, of course they're tapping maples
now probably and that'll be interesting to see what you know,
(01:31):
if the temperature doesn't go below freezing at night, it
kind of starts to mess up the maple syrup operations
because they like the oscillating temperatures above freezing and below freezing.
So it'd be interesting to see how that lines up
this year.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
I love real maple syrup. That's for sure. Got to
have our fingers crossed because we want to make sure
that we get to get a good harvest this year.
As we talk with Kevin ham Master Roberts and Hams Arbacare,
you can learn more about Kevin and the team all
on line Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h A M M
sarborcare dot com. They're tell FORH number eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. That's eight six
(02:09):
six five nine six five three nine six. And speaking
of warmer weather and pruning, what about oak trees? And
I know we're getting very very close to some communities
saying uh no more on the pruning of oak trees
and uh and even those that don't have restrictions, you
definitely want to be careful about when and how you're
doing that this time of year, don't you, Kevin.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Yes, you know uh. In our area, the village McFarland
is the most strict with the November first to March
uh first window uh for pruning. So we're pretty much
at the end.
Speaker 3 (02:50):
Yeah, it's say to the.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Village immfarlane, we had we had one job where logistically
they they'd put us off and and now now here
we are and so we'll be we'll be doing it
in November now for that particular client, and but everywhere
else is mostly April first. For areas without ordinances. We
(03:17):
follow the Wisconsin D and R guidelines. So we watched there.
They have a little online app that does the math
of degree days for us and you can kind of
see when when the the low incidents of spread exists,
and so we may get to April fifteenth in some areas,
(03:40):
but time, we'll tell. The weather is different every single year.
Speaker 1 (03:44):
It's it's interesting as we look at the you know,
you mentioned degree days and you know trees even on
days that get warm, there's activity, and even year round
obviously there's activity. I know here at the station. I
know a lot of people deal with things like box
elder bugs in your life, Like where did these guys?
It's it goes from a cold day to a warm day,
and all of a sudden, there's box elders all over
(04:05):
the place, and it's like, oh, they've been just they've
been just chilling out waiting for this warm up. And
that's the same reason with with oaks, right is the
reason why has to do with not it has to
do with with little critters that go from go from
tree to tree. Am I right on that?
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Yeah? The common picnic beetle is the primary vector is
what an insect carrier is referred to as. And and
they so the degree days are tied to two things,
the life cycle of the fungus and the life cycle
of the insect. So obviously the fungus has to be present,
(04:44):
and the picnic beetle is an opportunistic feeder. And the
oak wilt fungus smells like sweet wine. It creates a
it grows under the bark of a of a red
oak tree that will did last year during the summer,
and then it has a pressure pad that fills up
(05:07):
with liquid and then breaks open the bark, and of
course the aroma can go out. I can smell it
in the woods if I'm out where it's present. So
if I can smell it, you know, an insect can
smell it. And so they go into that little fissure
that is created and they feed on that sweet wine,
(05:30):
and then they come out with dirty feet and as
they fly around and they see your pruning cut with
a little snap dripping from it or something, they stop
there for a little snack and bingo, you've got the
Russian roulette that occurs. And you know, interestingly, a tree
by itself will will make itself impervious to that within
(05:54):
forty eight hours. So even though so the overland transmission
it's only about five percent of the spread of oak wilt,
most oak quilt is spread once it's in a system
of trees, and those trees are grafted together underground via
(06:16):
root graft, and that's kind of a Russian ulette thing.
The root is growing in the ground and crosses another
root from another tree, and they press together and underground,
and then they create a web amongst themselves of joint trees.
(06:37):
And so in a pure stand of red oaks or
black oaks, red oak varieties, they will graft together underground
and it just goes from tree to tree to tree
very effectively, and so it in an ever expanding pocket
of oak wilt infection. It keeps growing through that stand.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Remember learning in kindergarten that friends share, but it's certainly
not something that you traes to be to be sharing.
As we talked this morning with Kevin Ham, amester arborist
at Ham'sarborcare the website Hamsarborcare dot com. That's h a
m MS Arborcare dot com. Hope you had a chance
to check out the website. Also, if you are on
Facebook or Instagram or YouTube, they've got a great channel,
(07:22):
great Instagram videos as well. Just look for Game of
Trees Kevin hamhams Arborcarey will find them there. And I
know on your YouTube channel and I think I've seen
a couple on Instagram as well. A lot of pruning
videos you've been putting up, Kevin, really really a nice
opportunity for folks to kind of learn why they're necessary
and how you guys do it at hams Arborcare.
Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, we had a recent job that was with a
municipality and a lot of those training prunings are maybe
a little more drastic in approach because a municipality has
a as an objective, you know, to manage their their force,
and if they've got somebody in there, they want as
(08:07):
much value for their money as they can get and
these young trees can actually handle a lot of quote
unquote abuse. You know, they say, oh, you shouldn't remove
more than a third of the canopy of a tree. Well,
on a young tree, you can. You can do more
than that and it will it will respond, and it
(08:27):
will grow and and so on. Something where they know
they're not getting back there for another five years. The
directive was, you know, go hard if you have to.
And and so we're showing what can be done with
training pruning. And some of them were somewhat neglected, and
it was probably a pretty dramatic example. And what's going
(08:51):
to be good going forward is I'm going to be
able to follow up on these and create subsequent histories
and show the end result. I've got a lot of
interested our brisk going I want to see that in August,
you know, because they just in their mind they think, oh,
this isn't possible to do. And that's what training pruning is.
(09:14):
Is kind of a hard cell because when somebody puts
in a new tree and it's a.
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Little baby, you know, it's a little tree and all
those little branches are so precious and you're taking those
off all you know, they think that branch moves up
the trunk as a tree gets taller. No, it stays
right there two feet from the ground, and it's just
going to get bigger, and so you have to remove
those lower branches. And so when you look at a.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
Six foot or eight foot tall young tree, virtually every
branch on that tree is temporary. Like if you think
of a city street tree, it has ten feet of
trunk or fifteen feet of trunk. Where all those branches go,
they're gone. So every branch on a young tree, if
(10:05):
you're going to have a ten foot trunk, is a
temporary branch. It's going to be cut off. And you
want to fashion that tree to have at least a
straight enough central leader to get the trunk up above
the pedestrian activity. And so there's a process to that,
(10:27):
and it works best if you get them when they're young.
And so it can be a tough sell, you know,
because people don't have the understanding that the long range view.
I have one comment on one of these YouTube videos,
Oh that looks terrible. It was like, yeah, well, we're
not pruning this for today, We're pruning it for the grandchildren. Yes, okay,
(10:50):
it's a long term thinking. Operation and establishing a solid
structure to your tree makes that a long live tree,
and that's that's the goal.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's it's as you kind of share perspective and kind
of big picture stuff. I think that's one of the
great things about working with the folks at Ham's Arborcare
and Kevin and the team is really looking generally generationally
as saying, let's preserve and make sure that this tree
is healthy and strong for generations to come. And trees
are so rewarding and they look so great, but you
(11:24):
want to make sure that they're being taken care. If
you haven't had your trees inspected recently, if you've got
a question, maybe you've noticed something over the winter, a
tree limb that snapped or just doesn't looking right. It's
always a great day to have Kevin and the team
come on out. I got to pick a phone, give
a call eight six six five nine six five three
nine six. That's eight six six five nine six five
three nine six. You can learn more online Hamsarborcare dot com.
(11:47):
That's h A m Msarborcare dot com. Kevin, it's always
great chatting. Enjoy this beautiful look. Look at the forecast.
What a beautiful few days we've got ahead. You enjoy it,
and we'll do it all again in a week or so.
Speaker 2 (12:00):
Thank you, Sean, take care.
Speaker 1 (12:01):
And again that website Hamsarborcare dot com news comes your
way next. It's eight twenty nine.
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