November 1, 2023 • 9 mins
With a lot clearing on Kevin's mind, today he talk about what he does with some of the trees he takes off properties.
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(00:10):
Twenty one thirteen ten wib and askthe Experts, joined by our mester arboris
mister Kevin Ham. He comes tous from hams Arborcare the website Hamsarborcare dot
com. That's h A m msarborcare dot com. Also find them on
Game of Trees dot com. That'sgameoftrees dot com. Everyone raving about the
(00:33):
about the fantastic soap bar also canbe used apparently as a shampoo. I
wouldn't know much about that, butit is a fantastic bar. You can
purchase some right now. I willtell you this. Buy and bulk,
buy a couple, buy a fewwhen you're when you're making your purchase,
get get some for your friends andfamily as well, Kevin. People love
that stuff, and you are you'reprobably gonna need some after today. You
(00:54):
are. You're doing some lot clearingthis morning, aren't you. Yeah,
we got a big, big job. I just I just swung by the
Amish sawmill to make sure I hada sale. We've got some large red
oak that are coming to Northern redoak, which is a lot of what
(01:15):
people have in the yard is blackoak in central Wisconsin here. But there
are you know, sections of northernred oak that is the higher quality.
When you see red oak at thestore, you know, or somebody has
red oak woodwork in their house orred oak furniture, it's going to be
(01:36):
northern red oak. Typically that's thepremiere lumber. And these are some ninety
foot trees and they're preserving several.You know, it's a beautiful lot,
but you know, they want toput a house up to put a house
up, and some of these treesare where the house footprint is going to
be, and some of them areare are leaning heavily, and it just
(02:00):
wouldn't be good to have a ninetyfoot tree hanging over your new house.
And so we're gonna be taken downsome of these and I wanted to make
sure we get the wood to itsbest end. And so we're there's going
to be a lumber sail on thisand and we'll kick a rebate back to
(02:22):
the homeowner and it'll be a goodwin win. That is it. We
have never talked about kind of thatyou must use the term best end kind
of that that after we've talked onthings like you know, whether it's mulch
or you know, firewood, biochar, I think a lot of us think
about but we talk about timber,we talk about you know, you mentioned
northern red oak. You know,certain species that are that are quite uh
(02:45):
quite valuable, quite useful. Obviouslyall wood is in timber is useful,
but you know, very very highlysought after a scenario. I don't think
we've we've touched on in the past. Kevin, Yeah, you know,
I mean, wood products are areout there, and so that that's kind
of the motivation behind the biochar.It's like, well, how do we
(03:07):
do this in a way that isn'tjust wood chips that are you know,
because everything you know, I mean, carbon sequestrian is a big, big
buzzword these days. And you know, it doesn't matter if you burn it
or if it sits in a pile, it's going to off gas into the
air. That's that's what things do. You know, whether it breaks down
(03:29):
slowly or breaks down quickly, itall gets to the air eventually, unless,
of course, make biochar out ofit. So there there are ways
to you know, capture some ofthat, and so we we have that
in mind, and then of coursethere's a product that can spin off of
that or multiple products soap as oneof them, or we're going to be
(03:54):
packing up some biochar here shortly andhaving that available on game streets time in
a like a one gallon bag ofbiochar that you could activate a charcoal and
you could use it for your reptilepats if you wanted to, or you
could crush it up and make yourown biochar compost if you wanted to make
(04:15):
a custom tincture to fortify your biocharwith. As a master gardener, you
know it's going to be a greatproduct for that. And so you know,
we want to get our you know, residual waste to its best end.
And of course firewood is a isa big thing. A lot of
the wood that we take down isn'treally quality wood that can be milled.
(04:42):
But oftentimes we've got a millible logand we'll save a log here, a
log there, you know that justresidual. It goes into a file and
then we make a run to themill. In this case, we've got
you know, seven seven stems.There's two double step trees that structurally aren't
(05:02):
really good, but the individual stemsare twenty four to twenty seven inch diameter.
You know, straight northern red oak, and they're ninety foot trees.
And so we've got maybe five logs, and the three bottom ones are clear.
I mean, they're going to bereally straight and clear, clear of
(05:26):
not you know, of course,you know when you're making lumber, you
know you've got knotty pine, youknow, but knotty oak isn't as useful
as clear oak because you can makea lot of high grade woodwork out of
clear oak. And then with thesehardwood logs, the center log, you
(05:46):
know, maybe the top log isn'tthat great, but if we make it
eight foot ten inches long, theycan get a railroad tie out of it.
So there's a railroad tie in everyhardwood log in the middle. And
so they'll they'll mill the outside edgeand take the high quality boards off,
and then they'll have the center thatthey'll save at a perfect dimension for a
(06:13):
railroad tie. Well, that isso cool, I've i guess I've never
thought about that, But that's amazingto hear about the about the kind of
the other side of things, aboutwhere this stuff goes. And I'm guessing
the homeowners are going to be excited. You mentioned that, rebate. What
a great what a great you talkabout a win win as you mentioned earlier,
what a great thing all around.As we talked this morning with Kevin
Ham of hams Arborcare, maybe you'vegot that tree you've got some questions about.
(06:35):
I know we had some storms rollthrough. Got questions about damage or
other issues. They'd love to talkto you. Hams Arborcare eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. That's eight six six, five nine
six five three nine six And Kevin, obviously we are now into November.
Leaves are coming off the trees,a lot of the trees losing their leaves.
Are we at the point now wherewhere things are are getting to that
(06:58):
area where you can get a reallyI look at those trees and is it
too late to do with things like, for example, just as a homeowner
to maybe you've got like a littlelimb that you've been kind of looking at.
Is it too late in the year. Is it a good time to
be pruning that stuff? Or whatshould people be looking at right now?
It's a great time to be pruney. We just had somebody you know,
close a contract on a chlorosis bundleand now that's getting tricky. We we
(07:28):
could still inject iron into a tree, like this morning, I see the
sun coming up here, but we'regoing to be pretty cloudy, and we
need a good sunny day to getuptake on an iron injection into a tree.
And so it's going to be touchand go. If we're going to
get that all the way fulfilled,we may have to wait and just kind
(07:50):
of they kind of sat on ithunger. They were worn. But at
any rate, there's some things thatwe do that you are kind of nipping
tough like that when we get tothis time of the year. But as
far as pruning and removals, youknow, now we're you know, I
see we're still some of the trees, some of the silver maples actually are
(08:11):
still hanging on to their leaves.I know my autumn blaze in my front
yard has a few leaves left onit. But things are getting pretty bare,
and we can kind of see.I just had a conversation with a
client, Oh, can you dothe deadwood on my oaks, because you
know, you can't see it.Actually I can see it better because the
leaves aren't in the way. Andso just that that dichotomy of thought or
(08:35):
the homeowner might think, oh,it's not as good, and we're like,
yeah, the leaves are out ofthe way. I'm always a little
claustrophobic. In the spring when theleaves start coming back, it is a
great time of year to get onthe schedule. Again. If you haven't
had your trees inspected recently, it'sa good time to have that done.
If you are noticing some prim areas, you've got some concerns, you definitely
(08:58):
want to talk with Kevin. Butagain, even if if it's just something
for a regular, regular check justto make sure that the overall plant health
is good, it's a primetime ayear for that. To get on the
schedule. We'll give them a callat Hammer eight sixty six five nine six
five three nine six. That's eightsix six five nine six five three nine
six Kevin, it's always just fascinatingtalking with you. I learned something new
(09:20):
and that's not an exaggeration every weekwhen we talk. You have a fantastic
day, my friend, you dooSean. Take care, Kevin Ham hams
Arborcare again. That telephone number eightsix six five nine six five three nine
six online Hamsarborcare dot com. That'shams Arborcare dot com News comes your way.
Next here on thirteen ten wuib A
Twenty one thirteen ten wib and askthe Experts, joined by our mester arboris
mister Kevin Ham. He comes tous from hams Arborcare the website Hamsarborcare dot
com. That's h A m msarborcare dot com. Also find them on
Game of Trees dot com. That'sgameoftrees dot com. Everyone raving about the
(00:33):
about the fantastic soap bar also canbe used apparently as a shampoo. I
wouldn't know much about that, butit is a fantastic bar. You can
purchase some right now. I willtell you this. Buy and bulk,
buy a couple, buy a fewwhen you're when you're making your purchase,
get get some for your friends andfamily as well, Kevin. People love
that stuff, and you are you'reprobably gonna need some after today. You
(00:54):
are. You're doing some lot clearingthis morning, aren't you. Yeah,
we got a big, big job. I just I just swung by the
Amish sawmill to make sure I hada sale. We've got some large red
oak that are coming to Northern redoak, which is a lot of what
(01:15):
people have in the yard is blackoak in central Wisconsin here. But there
are you know, sections of northernred oak that is the higher quality.
When you see red oak at thestore, you know, or somebody has
red oak woodwork in their house orred oak furniture, it's going to be
(01:36):
northern red oak. Typically that's thepremiere lumber. And these are some ninety
foot trees and they're preserving several.You know, it's a beautiful lot,
but you know, they want toput a house up to put a house
up, and some of these treesare where the house footprint is going to
be, and some of them areare are leaning heavily, and it just
(02:00):
wouldn't be good to have a ninetyfoot tree hanging over your new house.
And so we're gonna be taken downsome of these and I wanted to make
sure we get the wood to itsbest end. And so we're there's going
to be a lumber sail on thisand and we'll kick a rebate back to
(02:22):
the homeowner and it'll be a goodwin win. That is it. We
have never talked about kind of thatyou must use the term best end kind
of that that after we've talked onthings like you know, whether it's mulch
or you know, firewood, biochar, I think a lot of us think
about but we talk about timber,we talk about you know, you mentioned
northern red oak. You know,certain species that are that are quite uh
(02:45):
quite valuable, quite useful. Obviouslyall wood is in timber is useful,
but you know, very very highlysought after a scenario. I don't think
we've we've touched on in the past. Kevin, Yeah, you know,
I mean, wood products are areout there, and so that that's kind
of the motivation behind the biochar.It's like, well, how do we
(03:07):
do this in a way that isn'tjust wood chips that are you know,
because everything you know, I mean, carbon sequestrian is a big, big
buzzword these days. And you know, it doesn't matter if you burn it
or if it sits in a pile, it's going to off gas into the
air. That's that's what things do. You know, whether it breaks down
(03:29):
slowly or breaks down quickly, itall gets to the air eventually, unless,
of course, make biochar out ofit. So there there are ways
to you know, capture some ofthat, and so we we have that
in mind, and then of coursethere's a product that can spin off of
that or multiple products soap as oneof them, or we're going to be
(03:54):
packing up some biochar here shortly andhaving that available on game streets time in
a like a one gallon bag ofbiochar that you could activate a charcoal and
you could use it for your reptilepats if you wanted to, or you
could crush it up and make yourown biochar compost if you wanted to make
(04:15):
a custom tincture to fortify your biocharwith. As a master gardener, you
know it's going to be a greatproduct for that. And so you know,
we want to get our you know, residual waste to its best end.
And of course firewood is a isa big thing. A lot of
the wood that we take down isn'treally quality wood that can be milled.
(04:42):
But oftentimes we've got a millible logand we'll save a log here, a
log there, you know that justresidual. It goes into a file and
then we make a run to themill. In this case, we've got
you know, seven seven stems.There's two double step trees that structurally aren't
(05:02):
really good, but the individual stemsare twenty four to twenty seven inch diameter.
You know, straight northern red oak, and they're ninety foot trees.
And so we've got maybe five logs, and the three bottom ones are clear.
I mean, they're going to bereally straight and clear, clear of
(05:26):
not you know, of course,you know when you're making lumber, you
know you've got knotty pine, youknow, but knotty oak isn't as useful
as clear oak because you can makea lot of high grade woodwork out of
clear oak. And then with thesehardwood logs, the center log, you
(05:46):
know, maybe the top log isn'tthat great, but if we make it
eight foot ten inches long, theycan get a railroad tie out of it.
So there's a railroad tie in everyhardwood log in the middle. And
so they'll they'll mill the outside edgeand take the high quality boards off,
and then they'll have the center thatthey'll save at a perfect dimension for a
(06:13):
railroad tie. Well, that isso cool, I've i guess I've never
thought about that, But that's amazingto hear about the about the kind of
the other side of things, aboutwhere this stuff goes. And I'm guessing
the homeowners are going to be excited. You mentioned that, rebate. What
a great what a great you talkabout a win win as you mentioned earlier,
what a great thing all around.As we talked this morning with Kevin
Ham of hams Arborcare, maybe you'vegot that tree you've got some questions about.
(06:35):
I know we had some storms rollthrough. Got questions about damage or
other issues. They'd love to talkto you. Hams Arborcare eight six six
five nine six five three nine six. That's eight six six, five nine
six five three nine six And Kevin, obviously we are now into November.
Leaves are coming off the trees,a lot of the trees losing their leaves.
Are we at the point now wherewhere things are are getting to that
(06:58):
area where you can get a reallyI look at those trees and is it
too late to do with things like, for example, just as a homeowner
to maybe you've got like a littlelimb that you've been kind of looking at.
Is it too late in the year. Is it a good time to
be pruning that stuff? Or whatshould people be looking at right now?
It's a great time to be pruney. We just had somebody you know,
close a contract on a chlorosis bundleand now that's getting tricky. We we
(07:28):
could still inject iron into a tree, like this morning, I see the
sun coming up here, but we'regoing to be pretty cloudy, and we
need a good sunny day to getuptake on an iron injection into a tree.
And so it's going to be touchand go. If we're going to
get that all the way fulfilled,we may have to wait and just kind
(07:50):
of they kind of sat on ithunger. They were worn. But at
any rate, there's some things thatwe do that you are kind of nipping
tough like that when we get tothis time of the year. But as
far as pruning and removals, youknow, now we're you know, I
see we're still some of the trees, some of the silver maples actually are
(08:11):
still hanging on to their leaves.I know my autumn blaze in my front
yard has a few leaves left onit. But things are getting pretty bare,
and we can kind of see.I just had a conversation with a
client, Oh, can you dothe deadwood on my oaks, because you
know, you can't see it.Actually I can see it better because the
leaves aren't in the way. Andso just that that dichotomy of thought or
(08:35):
the homeowner might think, oh,it's not as good, and we're like,
yeah, the leaves are out ofthe way. I'm always a little
claustrophobic. In the spring when theleaves start coming back, it is a
great time of year to get onthe schedule. Again. If you haven't
had your trees inspected recently, it'sa good time to have that done.
If you are noticing some prim areas, you've got some concerns, you definitely
(08:58):
want to talk with Kevin. Butagain, even if if it's just something
for a regular, regular check justto make sure that the overall plant health
is good, it's a primetime ayear for that. To get on the
schedule. We'll give them a callat Hammer eight sixty six five nine six
five three nine six. That's eightsix six five nine six five three nine
six Kevin, it's always just fascinatingtalking with you. I learned something new
(09:20):
and that's not an exaggeration every weekwhen we talk. You have a fantastic
day, my friend, you dooSean. Take care, Kevin Ham hams
Arborcare again. That telephone number eightsix six five nine six five three nine
six online Hamsarborcare dot com. That'shams Arborcare dot com News comes your way.
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