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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Eight, nineteen thirteen ten WI b A and ask the experts,
joined this morning by Kevin Ham. Of course, Kevin comes
to us from hams Barborcare. The website Hamsarborcare dot com.
That's h A m MS arborcare dot com. Tell forh
number six eight sixty six five nine six five three
nine six. That's eight sixty six five nine six five
(00:22):
three nine six, and again the website hams Arborcare dot com. Kevin,
how you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Doing wonderful? Sean staying dry?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, it's one of those one of those kind of
days could change over the snow. When do we start
and I know, obviously degree days are are rolling throughout
the entire year. When when do arborists really start to
and folks with trees should they start really queuing in
on some of those degree days? And what is a
degree day? Kevin?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, Well, technically the state Wisconsin starts tracking them January one.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
If you can believe it, I believe it. What else
they gonna do now?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And so you know, it's a measurement of temperature above
above fifty degrees. Essentially, there's a complicated method. The easy
method is to look up the website for the dn R.
If you if you were at a Google Oak wilt
tracker in Wisconsin or something to that effect, you would
(01:24):
get the DNR website and they give you right you
type in your zip code and it tells you exactly
how many degree days you've had for your area at
that time. That's the easy way. The way we used
to do it before they had that fancy tool was
to add up all of the hours over fifty degrees.
(01:47):
And so we tracked those hours, and twenty four of
them equal to day. You know, in about two hundred
and fifty, about ten degree days would mark the ending
of our oak pruning in areas that weren't dictated by date.
Now in Madison, April first is the date if we
(02:10):
were to get immensely warm weather, which it doesn't. You know,
we're already into March here, yeah, and so you know,
do do we get to the specified degree days before
April first? Maybe not this year, you know, depending on
how the weather fluctuates. Of course, those hours can add
(02:32):
up really fast if there's twenty four of them in
a day, and that's always a possibility as we move
forward here. But right now it's looking like you know,
April fifteenth used to be the date, and in areas
where there's not ordinances, when we're following the tracker, you know,
(02:54):
we might get to April fifteenth in those areas. But
the long and short of it is, if you want
your oaks pruned, yes, and you're not currently on the schedule,
you better get on the schedule. One village, village of McFarland,
has already shut it down as of March first. They're
(03:15):
the earliest, and you know, I mean that is their
prerogative and that's what they choose to do November first
to March first, if you're in the village of McFarland.
Everywhere else where there's ordinances are ordinarily October first or
October fifteenth to April first.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So you've got time. But time is ticking very very quickly,
which as you mentioned, got those oak trees call I
feel like like one of those call now right eight
six six ninety six five three ninety six. That's eight
sixty six five nine six five three nine six. Get
on the schedule with hams Arborcaaren speaking of like mathematical
(03:56):
formulas and the science and technology are round around being
an arborist in treecare. I know, you guys at Ham's
Arborcare use technology quite a bit. You use a lot
of science when it comes to things like in math,
when it comes to figuring out weights of trees and
how they're going to come down and all that fun
(04:17):
stuff are there like like for you, I know, obviously
we talked the other week about like chainsaws and are
things that are very tools specific or job specific. What
about some technology. Do we see technology making its way
into into tree care?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, and it's mostly in the form of apps. There
are some nice little tools, both just geometric tools and
some electronic tools for calculating the height of trees. We
have a log chart that you can you know, Google
on the app on the app store, you know, and
(04:53):
you get a log chart that will ask you for
the species and it has a wide range of species
and then it's for the linear length and then it
will give you a weight of that of that lolog
and you know, like red oak is I believe sixty
(05:17):
what is it sixty one pounds per cubic foot and wow,
white oak is sixty three pounds per cubic foot. You know,
a black locust is sixty four pounds per cubic foot.
Live oak if you're in Texas, live oak is I
believe seventy five pounds per cubic foot. Wow, you know
(05:39):
they vary from tree to tree.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Sure, that is that is amazing when you think about
the amount of weight that's being suspended and held up
by a tree, and of course that also reinforces i know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
By a rope.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, that's also very true. Now do you guys obviously
use very specially do you use similar like paracord or
that type of thing, like something something along those type
of lines.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You know, they're they're oftentimes are rigging ropes. We have
a nylon core, which is more shock absorbing than polyester.
You know, who knew, but you know. So we have
a nylon core and a polyester cover. So it's a
it's a woven rope on the interior and then a
(06:25):
woven cover and that that double rope. So in that scenario,
fifty percent of the strength is in the core and
fifty percent of the strength is in the cover. And
you know, you have to be concerned about how how
you utilize that rope because if you run that over
a limb without a block or a pulley. Yeah, that
(06:48):
friction can hold up the cover. Oh and the core
keeps moving. And you can imagine that's not that type
of scenario you want with under load because that can
cause a rapid failure of the entire rope. And and
so you have to know what to use. Whereas you
(07:09):
can use a three strand you know, the old fashioned
three strand uh, twisted rope. Sure you can run that
over any friction service you want. It's not going to break,
it's going to absorb the friction very well. So you
have to have a knowledge of the construction of the
rope you're using and what your application is. So, yeah,
(07:33):
there's there's a little bit that goes.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Into Yeah, and for folks, as we talk about some
of the some of the planning and some of the
work that goes into even before the chainsaws and other
tools are are are started and up up and running,
there's a lot that goes into it. And I know, Kevin,
you've got a very popular YouTube channel, also very popular
on Instagram as well with stuff just like this folks
wanting to learn a little bit about the industry and
(07:55):
what exactly goes into being an arborist. I hope you
get a chance. We haven't had a chance yet to
follow Kevin and the team at Ham's Arborcare's go to
game of tree one over fifty thousand well on YouTube
subscribe you wow, that's see and that's that's a that's
a huge number of subscribers that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You were there at the beginning when it was fifty
I was.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Gonna say, first of a first of a couple of days.
So with that, with like the the education other things,
I know, something that I've learned from you over the
years is is that tree care can be done year round.
Not only that, there's great benefits to doing it during
quote unquote for a lot of a lot of arborous
and others, they're off season. Winter and and into early
(08:39):
spring is a great time to be to be worrying
about and taking care of those longevity of your tree.
And so folks that have questions a good time to
get on the schedule for that. As we kind of
look forward, and I know you're always always looking ahead
to stuff what's kind of coming up Kevin on the
horizon as far as things that folks need to be
concerned with or keeping an eye on when it comes
to taking good care of those trees.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, well, our first you know a lot of stumps
that we've generated in the winter, we wait until after
April fifteenth, when you can imagine when this frost is
coming out. You got that soggy period. We like to
wait till that soggy period's over before we start grinding.
So that's that's kind of on our scheduling minds right now.
(09:23):
Soil injected insecticides that maybe are used for the flat
headed borers like the bronze birch borer and two line
chestnut boar in oaks, well we start applying that in
Japanese beetles in birches. We start applying those in late
March if the frost is out or early April. And
(09:46):
so that's our first plant healthcare regimen that comes online.
And then the next thing is the fungicidal sprays will
start sometime in April. And those are you know, degree
days that we're watching. We're watching the flowering of plants
synchronizing with it. We can watch plants and kind of
see life cycles, you know, they coincide with the life
(10:08):
cycles of insects. So we watch all those little details.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And as you talked about some of the treatments other things.
Of course, we're just getting as you mentioned, some of
those dates we are that is right upon us. It
is going to be here in no time, which reinforces
the importance of starting that conversation and getting on the
schedule with the folks at hams Arborcare again. You can
learn more online about Kevin and the team right at
Ham'sarborcare dot com. That's h A M. M. Sarborcare dot com.
(10:34):
They're tough. What number eight six six five nine six
five three nine six. That's eight six six five nine
six five three nine six. I also find them a
Game of trees dot com. That's gameoftrees dot com. Kevin,
it's always great chatting. Have a fantastic day, stay dry
and we'll talk real soon.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Take care news comes your way next right here at
thirteen ten wuib A
Eight, nineteen thirteen ten WI b A and ask the experts,
joined this morning by Kevin Ham. Of course, Kevin comes
to us from hams Barborcare. The website Hamsarborcare dot com.
That's h A m MS arborcare dot com. Tell forh
number six eight sixty six five nine six five three
nine six. That's eight sixty six five nine six five
(00:22):
three nine six, and again the website hams Arborcare dot com. Kevin,
how you doing today?
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Doing wonderful? Sean staying dry?
Speaker 1 (00:31):
Yeah, it's one of those one of those kind of
days could change over the snow. When do we start
and I know, obviously degree days are are rolling throughout
the entire year. When when do arborists really start to
and folks with trees should they start really queuing in
on some of those degree days? And what is a
degree day? Kevin?
Speaker 2 (00:48):
Yeah, Well, technically the state Wisconsin starts tracking them January one.
Speaker 1 (00:54):
If you can believe it, I believe it. What else
they gonna do now?
Speaker 2 (01:00):
And so you know, it's a measurement of temperature above
above fifty degrees. Essentially, there's a complicated method. The easy
method is to look up the website for the dn R.
If you if you were at a Google Oak wilt
tracker in Wisconsin or something to that effect, you would
(01:24):
get the DNR website and they give you right you
type in your zip code and it tells you exactly
how many degree days you've had for your area at
that time. That's the easy way. The way we used
to do it before they had that fancy tool was
to add up all of the hours over fifty degrees.
(01:47):
And so we tracked those hours, and twenty four of
them equal to day. You know, in about two hundred
and fifty, about ten degree days would mark the ending
of our oak pruning in areas that weren't dictated by date.
Now in Madison, April first is the date if we
(02:10):
were to get immensely warm weather, which it doesn't. You know,
we're already into March here, yeah, and so you know,
do do we get to the specified degree days before
April first? Maybe not this year, you know, depending on
how the weather fluctuates. Of course, those hours can add
(02:32):
up really fast if there's twenty four of them in
a day, and that's always a possibility as we move
forward here. But right now it's looking like you know,
April fifteenth used to be the date, and in areas
where there's not ordinances, when we're following the tracker, you know,
(02:54):
we might get to April fifteenth in those areas. But
the long and short of it is, if you want
your oaks pruned, yes, and you're not currently on the schedule,
you better get on the schedule. One village, village of McFarland,
has already shut it down as of March first. They're
(03:15):
the earliest, and you know, I mean that is their
prerogative and that's what they choose to do November first
to March first, if you're in the village of McFarland.
Everywhere else where there's ordinances are ordinarily October first or
October fifteenth to April first.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
So you've got time. But time is ticking very very quickly,
which as you mentioned, got those oak trees call I
feel like like one of those call now right eight
six six ninety six five three ninety six. That's eight
sixty six five nine six five three nine six. Get
on the schedule with hams Arborcaaren speaking of like mathematical
(03:56):
formulas and the science and technology are round around being
an arborist in treecare. I know, you guys at Ham's
Arborcare use technology quite a bit. You use a lot
of science when it comes to things like in math,
when it comes to figuring out weights of trees and
how they're going to come down and all that fun
(04:17):
stuff are there like like for you, I know, obviously
we talked the other week about like chainsaws and are
things that are very tools specific or job specific. What
about some technology. Do we see technology making its way
into into tree care?
Speaker 2 (04:33):
Yeah, and it's mostly in the form of apps. There
are some nice little tools, both just geometric tools and
some electronic tools for calculating the height of trees. We
have a log chart that you can you know, Google
on the app on the app store, you know, and
(04:53):
you get a log chart that will ask you for
the species and it has a wide range of species
and then it's for the linear length and then it
will give you a weight of that of that lolog
and you know, like red oak is I believe sixty
(05:17):
what is it sixty one pounds per cubic foot and wow,
white oak is sixty three pounds per cubic foot. You know,
a black locust is sixty four pounds per cubic foot.
Live oak if you're in Texas, live oak is I
believe seventy five pounds per cubic foot. Wow, you know
(05:39):
they vary from tree to tree.
Speaker 1 (05:40):
Sure, that is that is amazing when you think about
the amount of weight that's being suspended and held up
by a tree, and of course that also reinforces i know.
Speaker 2 (05:50):
By a rope.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
Yeah, that's also very true. Now do you guys obviously
use very specially do you use similar like paracord or
that type of thing, like something something along those type
of lines.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
You know, they're they're oftentimes are rigging ropes. We have
a nylon core, which is more shock absorbing than polyester.
You know, who knew, but you know. So we have
a nylon core and a polyester cover. So it's a
it's a woven rope on the interior and then a
(06:25):
woven cover and that that double rope. So in that scenario,
fifty percent of the strength is in the core and
fifty percent of the strength is in the cover. And
you know, you have to be concerned about how how
you utilize that rope because if you run that over
a limb without a block or a pulley. Yeah, that
(06:48):
friction can hold up the cover. Oh and the core
keeps moving. And you can imagine that's not that type
of scenario you want with under load because that can
cause a rapid failure of the entire rope. And and
so you have to know what to use. Whereas you
(07:09):
can use a three strand you know, the old fashioned
three strand uh, twisted rope. Sure you can run that
over any friction service you want. It's not going to break,
it's going to absorb the friction very well. So you
have to have a knowledge of the construction of the
rope you're using and what your application is. So, yeah,
(07:33):
there's there's a little bit that goes.
Speaker 1 (07:34):
Into Yeah, and for folks, as we talk about some
of the some of the planning and some of the
work that goes into even before the chainsaws and other
tools are are are started and up up and running,
there's a lot that goes into it. And I know, Kevin,
you've got a very popular YouTube channel, also very popular
on Instagram as well with stuff just like this folks
wanting to learn a little bit about the industry and
(07:55):
what exactly goes into being an arborist. I hope you
get a chance. We haven't had a chance yet to
follow Kevin and the team at Ham's Arborcare's go to
game of tree one over fifty thousand well on YouTube
subscribe you wow, that's see and that's that's a that's
a huge number of subscribers that.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
You were there at the beginning when it was fifty
I was.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Gonna say, first of a first of a couple of days.
So with that, with like the the education other things,
I know, something that I've learned from you over the
years is is that tree care can be done year round.
Not only that, there's great benefits to doing it during
quote unquote for a lot of a lot of arborous
and others, they're off season. Winter and and into early
(08:39):
spring is a great time to be to be worrying
about and taking care of those longevity of your tree.
And so folks that have questions a good time to
get on the schedule for that. As we kind of
look forward, and I know you're always always looking ahead
to stuff what's kind of coming up Kevin on the
horizon as far as things that folks need to be
concerned with or keeping an eye on when it comes
to taking good care of those trees.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
Yeah, well, our first you know a lot of stumps
that we've generated in the winter, we wait until after
April fifteenth, when you can imagine when this frost is
coming out. You got that soggy period. We like to
wait till that soggy period's over before we start grinding.
So that's that's kind of on our scheduling minds right now.
(09:23):
Soil injected insecticides that maybe are used for the flat
headed borers like the bronze birch borer and two line
chestnut boar in oaks, well we start applying that in
Japanese beetles in birches. We start applying those in late
March if the frost is out or early April. And
(09:46):
so that's our first plant healthcare regimen that comes online.
And then the next thing is the fungicidal sprays will
start sometime in April. And those are you know, degree
days that we're watching. We're watching the flowering of plants
synchronizing with it. We can watch plants and kind of
see life cycles, you know, they coincide with the life
(10:08):
cycles of insects. So we watch all those little details.
Speaker 1 (10:13):
And as you talked about some of the treatments other things.
Of course, we're just getting as you mentioned, some of
those dates we are that is right upon us. It
is going to be here in no time, which reinforces
the importance of starting that conversation and getting on the
schedule with the folks at hams Arborcare again. You can
learn more online about Kevin and the team right at
Ham'sarborcare dot com. That's h A M. M. Sarborcare dot com.
(10:34):
They're tough. What number eight six six five nine six
five three nine six. That's eight six six five nine
six five three nine six. I also find them a
Game of trees dot com. That's gameoftrees dot com. Kevin,
it's always great chatting. Have a fantastic day, stay dry
and we'll talk real soon.
Speaker 2 (10:52):
Thank you, Sean.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Take care news comes your way next right here at
thirteen ten wuib A
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