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Speaker 1 (00:20):
Welcome to Healing Begins.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
My name is Pastor Gale, and I'm so glad you've
chose to join us for this program. Well, I have
a special program for you this morning. I don't know
where you're at, what you're doing. Maybe you're driving your car.
Maybe one person told me they heard me when they
were fishing in their fishing boat. I don't know where
you're at, but welcome.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
To Healing Begins. Today.
Speaker 2 (00:44):
I have Rebecca Current on the program. Say hi, Rebecca, Hello,
Well how did we meet Rebecca?
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Do you remember?
Speaker 3 (00:53):
Yes? I do. It was actually at one of your banquets.
Speaker 2 (00:58):
All right, she met me at a spiritual care banquet.
I've recently gotten in the political realm a little bit
and I met Rebecca. She was running for the Senate
for Washington, DC, but today she's going.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
To talk about her testimony. Where are you from, Rebecca?
Speaker 3 (01:17):
So, I was born in Providence, Rhode Island. But I
grew up in a military family, and we've lived all
over the country. I've lived in eight states two twice.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Wow.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
So I wouldn't say I'm really from it anywhere. I'm
from America.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
You're from everywhere, right, So what was your life growing up.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
What was your life like growing up? Was it highly religious?
It sounds like you moved a lot, for sure, we did.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
We did move a lot. I came from a very
big family. We had six kids. We had three boys
and three girls and my parents. I grew up in
a Christian home, so we went to church every Sunday morning,
Sunday night, and Wednesday night, so we were constantly a church.
Speaker 2 (02:03):
Sounded like my family growing up. I always joke and
say that I cut my teeth on a church pew.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (02:10):
Yeah, that was my life growing up.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
So tell us a little bit like some of your
joys growing up, some of your struggles, how you made
it through.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
So struggled and joys? Well, I remember that.
Speaker 2 (02:27):
I don't know.
Speaker 3 (02:28):
I don't It's funny. People sometimes look at my life
and they're like, You've had all this struggle, and I'm like, oh,
I just see it as life. So I don't really
think in the context of struggle. I just think in
the context of this is just how my life was.
But we had six kids. It was crazy. It was
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a lot of fun. I grew up in a very
strict family. My mom was very strict about certain things.
We couldn't wear this, we couldn't do that, into this,
we couldn't do that. So that was kind of tough
for me. And of course all that was associated with
our faith, so that to me kind of gave me
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some resentment towards my faith. But I did you know,
I was saved when growing up I said the prayer,
accepted Christ into my heart, got baptized at early age
as a teenager. I remembered I loved going to church
camp growing up. That's something I remember, and I loved it.
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And I actually received the baptismal Holy Spirit at one
of our church camps that I went to.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
I went to church camp too, but it wasn't a
summily God. It was a Wesleyan. Yeah, but it was
actually a really good experience because you know, recently I've
been watching and on Facebook and reading articles on the
deconstruction of Christianity, and what I wanted to write on
is the reconstruction of Christianity, getting back to the roots
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and not getting away from Christianity like the society is today.
Speaker 1 (04:06):
So tell us a little bit about church camp. What
was your church camp?
Speaker 3 (04:10):
It was great. I was a teenager. I remember we
would go and we get ready in the morning, and
then we'd do activities all afternoon, and then we'd come
back and we'd get ready again and we'd go to supper,
and then we'd have praise and worship services, and they
were so powerful. I remember feeling the presence of God
and just knowing that there was something more to life
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than just me, and feeling the in dwelling of His
Holy Spirit and the power and the anointing of who
He was, and really loving that, aside from just all
the fun activities and hanging out with friends and getting
gustied out for dinner every night. So but it was
a lot of fun. It was a lot of fun,
I remember, and the canteen was a big hit, Like
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we al go to the canteen in the afternoon.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So yeah, it seems like our church camp was real
similar in fact that I will share this growing up
in the Wesleyan Church when I was really young, it
seemed like our church back then was more Pentecostal than
it was Wesleyan until the charismatic movement broke out, And
so church camp for me was people crying at the altars,
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seeking God under conviction because of the preaching, and I
actually missed that. I actually want to somehow go back
to those days.
Speaker 1 (05:26):
And relive some of that.
Speaker 2 (05:27):
But we've got to go on because now we're the
leaders of the future. Yeah, we're the leaders.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
To bring in the fire of the Holy Spirit.
Speaker 3 (05:35):
Yeah right, it's coming, though. I think that that what
we experienced at church Camp is going to be coming,
like on a national level, and it's already starting. I mean,
if you look at the revival that happened at Asbury,
I believe that that is coming on a much larger scale.
Speaker 2 (05:57):
Yes, I do. I believe that Asbury so interesting enough.
I didn't know we were going to get into this.
But when I'm in South America in the Spanish churches,
they're like under revival, not like here. They really seem
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like the spirit of God is moving. And then recently
in this year, God has put me in contact with
three Spanish churches in Michigan and they're actually the same way,
Yes they are, they are the same way.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
In fact, Wow, I'm thinking.
Speaker 2 (06:36):
Lord, bring bring a little Spanish fire over and plant
it on some of them. Into these churches that we
attend now and then, or that we go to.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
It's really important.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
So growing up you said, you shared with me earlier
that you experienced stuff emotional healing and physical healing.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
So what was that all about.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
So that was more recent, probably in the last six
or seven years. So when we lived in Houston, Texas,
I went to a training on inner healing and several
of my friends went to the training as well, and
it was fantastic because we were able to minister to
one another and to provide that healing to each other.
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So there was something in my past that I had
a deep root of shame about and it was in
reference to, you know, education, and when I was in
first grade, I was held back and I had a
little brother who was only eighteen months apart from me.
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So when I was held back, it put us into
the same grade from first grade on. And I always
had a very deep, deep sense of shame about that.
And it's not like I could say, oh, we're twins,
you know, Oh yeah, And every year the question came,
why are you in the same gird as your brother?
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And every year I'd have to explain it. So I
just had a lot of shame around that. And one
of my girlfriends we started talking about it, and she
just welcomed the presence of the Holy Spirit. And you know,
we went through a process of identifying the lie that
Satan fed me that I then took hold of, internalized
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and believed. And after that process, I was completely delivered
from that guilt and shame and don't go through that anymore.
So and God has done that to me in multiple
areas of my life. And I'm so grateful that we
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have a healing God because you can go to counseling
all day long, like all day long, and it will
will teach you how to manage a trigger or a problem.
It'll teach you to identify it and manage it, but
it will not heal the problem. But our Lord and
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Savior Jesus Christ can.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
Noah, It's really true. We see that many times. That's
why spiritual Care started because doctor Carlson said, you know,
I need something more than medicine, more than a pill.
And Jesus is the one that created us. He's the
one that made us, and he knows how to heal us.
And so I know there's probably a lot of people out.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
There listening right now that say, yeah, I need healing
in my heart.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
I have been through years of counseling and not been.
I have not received the healing that I wanted. And
that doesn't mean the counseling is bad. But the thing
about healing ministry, our goal is to get to the root. Yeah,
probably counselors would say the same thing, but the goal
is to get to the root. The root would be
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hurting events, or we call them social livers that people
have had in their lives that God wants to heal.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
So yeah, well, and there's one other story I wanted
to share with you as well. So, growing up in
a Christian home, my mother was a wonderful woman who
taught us a lot about the Word, but she was
also a human being with flaws, and in our home
there was a lot of physical and emotional abuse because
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she's a flawed human being. And because of that, I
carried a lot of emotional scars from that abuse, and like,
if I went to go talk about it, my chest
would turn red and my heart would start palpitating, and
I'd get a little splotchy on my chest. And right
after I got saved, there was a book called Fasting
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by Jensen Franklin, and I picked up that book and
happen to notice it, and I was like, you know,
I need to do a fast. So I chose to
do this fast. And I was working in downtown Richmond
at the time, and I would go and I found
this little prayer chapel that was relatively close to my work,
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and I would go over on my lunch break as
often as I could. And this was right after I
finally surrendered my life to Christ in my early thirties.
And I would just lay down in this chapel and
kneel and pour my heart out to God in repentance
for the way I lived my life because I was
in rebellion to him. When I was eighteen, I became
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very rebellious and turn my back on God. Still believed
in him, but I wasn't serving him, and he was
not the Lord of my life. And every day I
did that for forty days, I did a Daniel fast,
which means that I just ate vegetables and water. I
think I even had fish fruit like. That's kind of
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what I put my fast. And I just prayed and
read the Word and repented to the Lord. And I
asked God to heal the relationship between me and my mom,
and to heal the relationship between me and my daughter.
And to end this generational curse that I had started,
that she would not go in rebellion against God. And
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I will tell you that after I was down with
that fast, God completely healed the emotional wound from the
physical abuse and from my childhood it had happened. I
knew it had happened, but it was healed. It didn't
hurt me to talk about it anymore. In fact, I
didn't even feel the need to talk about it anymore.
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So I'm just so grateful that we have a healing
God who can remove those close those wounds.
Speaker 2 (12:56):
When you talk about not feeling the need to talk
about it anymore, yourtual care, when someone constantly talks about
the trauma, we call it nursing and rehearsing.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Nursing and rehearsing. You're nursing and rehearsing that woman. So
that's a sign you need to be healed from it.
Speaker 2 (13:14):
Yeah, because when the true healing comes, the need of
nurse and rehearse begins to go.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
It sure does.
Speaker 1 (13:20):
And you know, mental health kind of teaches you that's
not possible.
Speaker 2 (13:24):
Yeah, but it is possible at nursing and rehearsing.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
Oh, that's a great little Moniker for that.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Yes, I'm telling.
Speaker 2 (13:32):
You so many times, and so you know that. You know,
the Bible tells us that good things come out of
the heart or the soul, and the things that come
out of the mouth reveal what's.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
In the heart.
Speaker 3 (13:46):
It sure does.
Speaker 1 (13:47):
And so if all the talking is negative, then you
know there's healing. So you got this healing from the
emotional and physical abuse.
Speaker 2 (13:56):
I bet there's many listening out there right now that
would say, boy, you know what I need healing from
emotional and physical abuse.
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Would you pray about that right now?
Speaker 3 (14:07):
Yes, yes, I will thank you, dear heavenly Father. I
just thank you for each and every person within the
sound of my voice. Lord, I just lift them up
in the name of Jesus' Father, and I just pray
that you heal them from the inside out. Father, go
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to them and dreams and visions, send people around them
to walk them through this process. I pray that you
just touch them from the top of their head to
the soles of their feet, Father, that they feel the
fire of God burning inside of them, and they will know,
they will know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that
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there is a creator who cares for them. Who never
left them, who never stick them during their time of
trial and tribulation, whatever that may be. Father, that they
were right there as they were hurting in their pain,
caring and loving them, ready and prepared to heal the
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wounds that were inflicted upon them. I just thank you, Jesus.
I thank you Jesus for what you're going to do
in their lives. And I just pray that you pour
out the bombagilead on them and mend their hearts and
their souls.
Speaker 2 (15:34):
In Jesus' name, Lord, I just pray for a very
powerful healing anointing to go across the airwaves to touch
each and every person that is listening right now under
the sound of our voices. Lord, let your presence fill
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the room where they're at. I pray that you as
show them that all things are possible with you, that
there's nothing impossible for you to do.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
In the name of Jesus. Amen. Well, in a few
minutes we have left. Where's your life headed? Now? What
are you doing now?
Speaker 3 (16:18):
So right now, we live in Jennison, Michigan, and I'm
currently serving as an Ottawa County Commissioner for District seven,
which is Georgetown Township. That is what I'm doing, and
then anything else I do, I just submit that to
the Lord and ask for his guidance and pray that
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he will teach me and show me where he wants
me to go.
Speaker 1 (16:43):
So what's it like being an Ottawa County Commissioner?
Speaker 3 (16:48):
Very interesting these days?
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Was that very exciting? Recently?
Speaker 3 (16:52):
Yes, it was.
Speaker 1 (16:53):
I heard that you guys had some excitement.
Speaker 2 (16:55):
I didn't know whether we want to bring it on
over the air or now, but I heard there was.
Speaker 1 (17:00):
There was spiritual excitement.
Speaker 3 (17:02):
So recently, every time when we start our County commission meeting,
the first thing we do is invites. Well, there's someone
that provides an invocation, and then we do the pledge
of allegiance and go into our meeting agenda. And there
is a group called I think it's the Satanic Temple.
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I heard, yes, the Satanic Temple that requested to conduct
the invocation, and the request was granted because of some
legal issues, and basically they came and conducted the invocation
and we had a ton of people that showed up,
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just different people protestings and people in support. But the
community definitely rallied around this and we had tons of
people there and you know, I will tell you what
my response to this was. While it would not be
what I would have selected, we do have free speech
and freedom of religion here in this nation.
Speaker 1 (18:05):
We really do. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
And what we did was we made heart shaped sugar
cookies that were iced with a little John three point
sixteen sticker on, all right, because we wanted to show
the love of Christ to these individuals, But we also
wanted to show the power of Christ because God does
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have dominion and authority, and Satan is under our feet
and no weapon formed against us will ever prosper. So
we just wanted to push back the powers of darkness
that would choose to come against the county and to
let them know that God loves them. He does have
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a path and a plan for their lives, and there
is the ability to have redemption and to be and
be one with Him.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Well, I didn't know we were going to talk about that,
but that was really interesting because I don't know if
you know this about me, but I worked I did
two years of Satanic deprogramming.
Speaker 1 (19:07):
I did not know I was involved.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
People even took death threats during that time. Now, but
you know what I think think about when I thought
about what happened in Outawa Counting thinking it's time for
the church to wake up. It is, it's time for
believers not only to wake up, but to stand up.
Speaker 1 (19:30):
Yeah, and be counted.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
You know the old song there to be a Daniel,
there to stand alone, there to make your purpose true.
When you have that coming to Ottawa County, highly religious
Dutch community, well actually a lot of Spanish now, a
lot of his family people in Holland.
Speaker 1 (19:50):
And then that comes in, it's like, wow.
Speaker 3 (19:54):
One of the most conservative counties, second most conservative county
in the nation.
Speaker 2 (19:59):
Yeah, well, you know what, our time is running out here,
but I think I know what my next subject is
going to be.
Speaker 1 (20:05):
You're not going anywhere, folks. Rebecca will be back. Actually
we're recording a few sessions tonight. I want to thank
you first of all for listening to Healing Begins on
Wood Radio. Thank you so much. Let us know how
you like the programming. My email is Gail g.
Speaker 2 (20:25):
A l E at Spiritual Care Consultants with an s
Onden dot com. Drop me an email, let me know
how you do. We'd like to hear from you and
for all those that listen later by podcast. We're so
glad you're out there during this program. But it really
is time for the church to awaken. The church has
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been in slumber and in sleep. And you know, when
we go to South America, man, I get involved with things.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
I call it no holds barred. I mean, it's.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Flat on spiritual warfare, setting people free, bringing them out
of the dark, and it's bringing them into the light,
seeing people.
Speaker 1 (21:02):
Come to know Jesus. Man, I'm telling you, it's incredible.
Speaker 3 (21:06):
So all of my favorite subjects.
Speaker 1 (21:08):
I know we're not done today. Good thing we got
two hours to record.
Speaker 2 (21:11):
Yeah, So I'm glad Rebecca's here and thank you for
joining us on this program. But I want to say
a little prayer before we wind up, and just for
those that might be listening out there that might be
tormented in their minds, and in the name of Jesus,
we would bind all torment that people might be experiencing
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in their minds. And I know, since this goes out
at one am and would radio folks, there might be
folks listening right now.
Speaker 1 (21:41):
And I just pray that the love of.
Speaker 2 (21:43):
Jesus would actually come right into the room and the
light of Jesus would go to all who are listening
tonight in the name of Jesus, and I thank you
for loving people, for dying on the cross for us
and raising from the dead. I'm so thankful for what
you've done for us. And as we wind up here tonight,
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may people know there is healing for physical and emotional
abuse and that.
Speaker 1 (22:11):
You are Lord of Awe in Jesus' name. Amen, any
parting thought, I just want.
Speaker 3 (22:19):
To encourage everyone listening. I want to let you know
that no matter what you've been through, no matter where
you are, that there is healing for you. You don't
have to accept the status quo. You don't have to
live like this. There is a greater purpose, a greater plan,
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a greater calling, and there is freedom and healing through
Christ Jesus.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Well, folks. Signing off here, this is Pastor Gale and
Rebecca Currn saying, have a good morning. Made the Lord,
bless you, Made the Lord keep you.
Speaker 1 (23:00):
The Lord, cause his face to shine upon you. May
the Lord be gracious to you and give you peace.
Have a good morning.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
We live in a world of worries, stress and fear,
and many times people don't have a very good support system.
Speaker 1 (23:30):
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Speaker 2 (23:32):
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you would like me to address on future programs. My
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