February 22, 2025 • 44 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Welcome to the Creative Construction with scottson Home improvement show
on Fox Sports nine twenty and your iHeartRadio app coming
live from the Donovan to Jordanson Heating and Cooling Studios.
Want to congratulate those guys forty years in business, celebrating
their fortieth anniversary, the largest employee owned HVAC company in
the state of Wisconsin. Any issues you have with your
(00:22):
HVAC system go to Donovan Jorgenson dot com.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
I wonder if they're busy last week.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, they were really busy. Yeah, really busy and in
a good way. Man. You know they guys like me
calling them on Sunday and yeah, look, you got to
make sure you still have heat. We're not over this
thing yet. I know it's going to get a little
bit warmer, but not not a bad time to do
a maintenance program with them. Make sure your AC is
going to be ready to go when you need that
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as well. I am Mike mcgiffre, Thanks for joining us.
My coach is Bingo Emmons. He's the owner of Creative
Construction with Scotts and Bingo and seen it a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Busy going busy. Well, you know, get the race going
on last weekend. I'm sure you watched every.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Last I taped it. I've watched it fifteen sixteen times,
watching reverse crash right at the end.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You watched the reverse just get better, right.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The crash right at the end, and the guy slipped
through and won it, right, you know? You know how
I know that because that might produce I.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Was really impressed. So you actually did watch the end?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
No, I didn't. Sorry I missed it, but I tried.
But there's a rain delay, I.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Think, Yeah, there was a little bit of raindolay.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes, good guess on my part that we quit laughing
over it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It makes it for a really long day, I bet yeah,
because you get there five o'clock in the morning, and
I was like, oh, you know, man, you don't get
out of there until midnight.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You know, maybe next year I'll go with, Oh, no,
I'm really busy, really busy. You get there at five,
you're out at midnight. That doesn't sound like me.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You can come to the Bristol race that when you
get done with that race, you can't hear at a
so long.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
No, I think I'll stick with basketball. That's kind of
my deal, and that was big news. But the real
big news from last week that you can announce.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, yes, it's definitely good. We can know officially announcement. No, yeap,
the window is window one. Yeah, they won a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You've been pushing that for months and people.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Came my campaign, your lead. My campaigned pretty good. And
it's just great to see those people because one they're superintendent,
I mean there their staff, the counselors, like I said,
you mean the witness superintendent. They were all on the
same page making this thing.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, when we had the young guy from Witnel and
he was a sophomore and the leader of that crew,
and I said, you guys, you think you have a chance,
he goes, absolutely. My team's done a really good job.
We had a chance to win this thing and they did.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We really proud of U. And it
was cool to find out that I didn't realize he
was actually you know, he's a plaster he's a plaster
kid himself. So I'm trying to recruit him, No, he's him.
I'm trying to take him from his grandpa, but his.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Grandpa will not let him wear red. And we you know,
it's been fun if you abroad and we could have
gotten pictures with him standing outside your truck.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And well, I also want to bring up that uh
act has been going to church every day last week.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, yeah, why is that?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, because we're working on Holy Hill, so he has
no choice.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
There you go. How's the Madison project coming along?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, that's doing pretty good. Yeah, there was some really
great pictures that if you go to a website you
see them. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Aaron's so product.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, it's it's it's a really big project to begin with.
You know, we're working we're doing that with the with
an area, the president of the area, Madison. So okay,
we had a collaboration with those two guys, and it's
it's a really good job.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Do you know what happened Aaron last week? You know,
we had that snow with a bunch of snow and
he went out and the truck had a flat. He
couldn't get it out, so he took Sam's car and
he's like, you know, Sam's if she's thinking about going anywhere,
she can't go anywhere. So he was texting her and yeah,
it was it was a little bit rough, but.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
He got here. Oh yeah, well I still listened to
show what I could because you know it does go
all the way everywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know on the iHeart Radio app. As I listened
to iHeart Radio app, Jonathan, I told you we might
not get you for the first segment, you know what,
And that's okay, but what you perfect timing. We talk
about Witno and how proud we are of that group
and that school winning the award.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Doing a presentation at twelve thirty on Thursday. So if
I ay, these people, all the students that were there,
that's when we're gonna do a presentation.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And they get they get a trophy, and I.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Think in a thousand dollars from the Foundation for Winning.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Man that they'll put right into tools and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I would think, well you think, so you can put
it in their pocket, do whatever they want. We're giving
them a chance.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
There you go. Yeah, does that go to the school?
Is it go to the teacher? How does that work?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You know it's written out the winnow. Yeah, therefore they'll
figure it out, so somebody will somebody will find some
way to spend it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But from from the people that were at the Narrow
Show that I talked to, they and they all walked
through the greenhouse growth projects. They were like, man, these
kids did a great job on these.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, it's so great. That's you know, that's what you
That's what I always like about these projects on the NBA.
Even when the NBA does their thing, I like the
way they do it. It just shows that there's a
there's a chance, there's a hope for the future. Because
as we're typical truction when our special guests is also
going to talk about today but trying to get people
in their trades, right, you know, in the old days.
I was like, well, you know, trying to do everything
else if we can't get a job going to construction.
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It's not that way, No, it's not. We need skilled
trade people that make it want to make a living.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know, be good living. Before Jonathan and our special
guest in studio for the entire hour, and let me
introduce him because he's over there laughing. Jonathan Snovak. He
is the founder of Step Beyond Green, the owner of
Source one Project Solutions, and also the president, I guess
of Home Building Trades Foundation. I said, Jonathan, you started
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in another company. He's like, yeah, I'm an idiot. I
don't know. I just keep doing this stuff. But perfect
timing for what we were just talking about with Whitnell
and the Greenhouse Growth Project. Home Building Trades Foundation, and
let me kind of give you what their what their
statement and their mission is to engage in programs and
activities for the benefit and enlightenment.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm goodness, job.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Would I was great if I don't have to speak
at this.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I was just in the middle of their mission statement.
Anything else you got, mister Evans before I continue?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, I actually I actually started my own uh you know,
because the fit, you know, the whole political thing that's
going on, It was like this, I started my own program.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
What's it called.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Uh, It's called DOPE Department of Plaster Plaster Inefficiency.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, I'm not going to ask you the president of DOPES.
I'm not There's a lot of different ways that could
take that word, and I'm just gonna stay away from it.
Getting back to Jonathan again. This is the mission statement
for Home Building Trades Foundation. Excuse me, and you can
go to Home Building Tradesfoundation dot org to look at
their website. But to engage in programs and activities for
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the benefit and enlightenment of the public with respect to
home building and remodeling. And their vision is to get
kids at the high school level, I believe, and we'll
ask Jonathan about it, to get them partnered with some
home building industry businesses that support programs. And these kids
didn't get a chance to really get hands on it
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in this single Jonathan, you guys started this a few
years ago, and you said, look, it took us a
couple of years to do the research because we didn't
want to do what everybody else was doing, because we're
not getting as many kids as we want. And we
thought if we tweaked it a little bit and did
it the way that our board in the way that
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I have a vision for it, I think we're going
to be really successful. So far, so good with this.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, when I say two three years, I mean it
was people thought that we had started this foundation then
it had disappeared, and the truth but it was is
that if you think about even any type of industry,
what do we try and do We try to make awareness,
We try and throw some people out in engagement, and
we hope for the best. And we've been doing this
and other foundation been doing this for twenty years and
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we're still only graduating thirty five to forty students in
the trade from a handful of high schools we have
in the state of Wisconsin. We need fifteen thousand people
in the trades a year, and we graduate less than
five hundred. There's a huge deficit here, right, and we
can't keep doing the same pattern. If you think about
when we were younger. Now, I know that was a
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long time ago for all of us, but in high school.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
A little bit longer for two of us.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You know what, you guys are young at heart, So
I'm going to say.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It wasn't immature. That really helps if.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
We think about how high school was back then. We
had an entire half of the high school dedicated to trades,
and trades we've narrowed down to like electrical and mechanical
and rough frame. But the truth is trades was automotive,
it was drafting, was engineering, it was small engines, it
was home ec I mean, let's just be honest, right,
And so we had all these opportunities for people to
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think of a secondary path. And now what we've done
if he's gotten rid of all those and now we're
expecting a small trade sector to come back in high
schools and develop hundreds of students and that's just not
happening right.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, here's what I love, and I spent a lot
of time on your website, the event that's coming up
on May first, And what I like about that page
on your website is it says, schools, trade pros, and
awesome organizations join the adventure of the Prey to home
site in twenty twenty five. And you you go right
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out and say, look, schools calling, all schools, bring your
class and witness the awesome world of home building a
field trip they'll never forget. And this rings right out
to I've got out of my son and his wife
is a teacher, my daughter's a teacher at Miwakie Luther,
and my son in law is a assistant principal at
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Menominie False High School. This rings out because these guys
are looking for some you know, come May you want
to Okay, I'm sitting in front of these kids all year.
Let's do something that we can get them out on
a field trip and see something that might impact their
lives as they go older, grow older. And this on
May first, look bring your class, yes, and get involved
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in this thing. And I just think it's again you're
you're looking a way to be a little bit different.
This is different, and I commend you for that.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's our most sought after pro program a year after year.
We're going on year five with this and two hundred
plus students attend it. The one thing I want to
say is that if your school isn't attending, actually it's
it's open to anyone.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So let's just even say after high school.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
If you've got someone sitting around the house right now,
that's like I didn't go to I didn't go to college.
I'm not sure what to do. We invite you to
come to this to this event. This event hosts four
to five homes that are in the middle of construction,
so some are at the end of framing, some are
in drywall, some are in and then we have trades
in the garages showing you how to put trim packages
on and roofing. I mean this is this is an
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all out blitz to five different homes and five different stages.
And when you get to talk to multiple trades, anywhere
from fifteen to twenty different trades will be there. Excavators
if you want to see how to dig a hole,
they'll be an excavator there like it's actually a great
exposure point to a lot of variety of different trades
as supposed to just visiting one.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well here my favorite line on this on the website,
discover how a pile of wood becomes a cozy house?
Like perfect? Can can you be the next great builder,
electrician designer? You know? Come find out? And the other
part is they're not just going to come and stand there.
I mean there are some ways where they can they
can try, they can get involved in this thing and
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just to be able to see if this is something
they want to want to try as they get older
and get into the trades. I think this is a
wonderful opportunity for administrators that listen to this show. And
I know they do because they got a number of
them reached out when we had Tom Herman on a
few weeks ago, saying the principal at Milwaukee Luther and
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Wayne Jensen. Doctor Jensen sent me a text and said,
could you please get me in contact with him because
this is something that we need desperately and I'd like
to meet him. And so when I have administrators at
different high schools reaching out to get Tom Herman's contact
information from this show. And look a lot of times
these guys start, you know, listening to around eight thirty
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quarter nine kids. I go to high school sports at
nine o'clock. But these are the guys that are reaching
out saying our school is in desperate need of an
opportunity like this. And I think that to be able
to do a field trip for some of these kids
to this on May first is just a great opportunity.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I can't even begin to explain the looks on students
face faces. And I like to call them young adults.
I mean, we're rescuing eighteen year olds to go to
a job site, right, I mean, let's just be honest
to juniors and seniors they're doing adults and just have
them walk around and they get so intrigued with well,
if you can do this, can you do that? We
had a woman come last year. She was a senior,
and she's like, hey, I really think about the trades,
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but those those machines in the back.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
We were at a sub division.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
They are moving dirt with those big big trucks that
shovel dirt and a bluck and everything.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
She's like, how do I do that?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And so sure enough we were able to connect her
with that excavator excavation crew. She actually ended up with
a job after high school in that company just from
that day alone.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So and we're going to continue to talk about this
throughout the throughout the entire show, and you can go
to their website Homebuilding Tradesfoundation dot org. Home Building Tradesfoundation
dot org. On My High School Show, Jonathan, we do
a thing called the Kernel Electric Superhero of the Week,
and it's not somebody involved in sports. We get away
from sports. The kid this week played tight end for
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Wisconsin Lutheroran in high school. He's going to Martin Luther
up in Minnesota, so he's he has some sports background,
but a lot of times it's a kid from the choir.
And one of the questions I asked, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna ask you this because it's so apparent to me,
but I asked them that servant leadership heart that they
have is not something you're born with. It's a learned behavior.
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And look step beyond green. I know where that that
came from. This You're not getting rich on this thing.
I know that I'm wondering where that came from. That
that servant leadership hard for you personally. Where do you
think you learned that?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Where I learned it? Yeah, because it's not something.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
We're born that giving back and trying to get people
to give your time, to get people to get an
idea on Maybe this is the the the career that
I have that I should be involved in. I'm wondering
where this servant leadership art came from for you.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
For me, it definitely many many year years ago came
from me wondering where I was supposed to be, like
what is my job here?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And then I kept.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Getting like little knocks on the on the door, like hey,
you know, there's people that are suffering, and I'm not
suffering in a physical kind of way, but in that
our industry, the trade industry in general, architecture, building design.
I was a commercial architect at the time, and I
just I kept hearing people say, no one's willing to help.
And how many times have you heard someone say, you know,
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I called the service to the call center and they
didn't help me, right, they told me what to do,
but it didn't help me. We just get so bombarded
with no one's willing to help that I felt like
what if someone was willing to help. And as soon
as I did that once, the feeling that you get
when that person comes and says, if it wasn't for you,
I wouldn't have been able to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Do you know, Jonathan? And I know, I don't know
if I've ever asked Bingo because I already know the
answer because I knew his dead right, I knew El
and l. At the end of Al's life, all he
was interested in was helping people because he had and
we had this conversation at his kitchen table. He said, look,
when my wife was sick, I was I had to
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go to seventeen different websites to find out to find
people that are willing to help us. And so I'm
going to put this all on one website for people
that are going through what I went through. So I
know because Bingo, if you want help on something, to
ask him because he'll help you. And his whole family
is like that. So we're zac learned and where Sam
learned it was from deb and from Bingo. And I
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know where Bingo learned it from, and that was from now.
And it's interesting that you said, look, once I did it,
the feeling I got because these kids that come in.
I've had a number of kids during that Curl Electric
Superhero the week say to me, I didn't know that
I was getting more out of it than the people
I was helping, But I got way more out of it.
So then I volunteered over here too, and then I
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went over here and did it because I was getting
more out of it than they were.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
And I think the best connection that you're saying there, Mike,
is think about the fact that if we don't offer
that opportunity within the trades and schools, if that isn't
a talking subject, if they didn't know. I think what
you said it best is well I didn't know, right.
We need to think about that word a segment I
didn't know, and how do we solve that for young adults.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It is also, this isn't like a make work program
trying to find something to just throw money away to
do something. These are trades that actually need people to help, right.
And he's going to mean you say, well, I can't wait.
You know, I don't know. I'm not that smart enough.
I don't know what to do. These companies will all
train you to be the best that these companies are
going to train you for a career, not just a
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summer job, to train you to do something. Then you're
gonna have more money than your friends.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, and part of the vision of this company home
Building Trades Foundation, And there's three points in their vision,
but the one that jumped out to me was sustain
our financial stability and efficient operations. And then when you
move over to the values like I we believe our
imagination will connect multiple generations for success. That rings out.
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Look at multiple you want to talk about multiple generations
that have involved in creative construction Wisconsin. I mean you
should put their company right up on your website and
go look six generations. You know, what they've done is
the imagination will connect multiple generations for success. And I
think that's a really good value of a foundation.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, and I think Bingo's family is the culture he's created.
I think that's that's what people don't remember, is the
word culture. You know, it's not something you have to
create on your own, something that you were involved in.
And if we don't change that mindset, like you're saying,
if I think back to my growing up, Yes, my
father was a Catholic knight. We volunteered at the church
all the time. I mean, I think that giving side
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is embedded. However, I've talked to so many unfortunate families
that didn't have that that have an outcome now of
the giving side. So even though you don't have it
in the past, I guess I would really push forward
to say you can make that change. Become the start point,
not the endpoint.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And when you said, look, I once I did it,
and I found out how it made me feel, and
I was helping people, which is great. I just think
that that's awesome. Well done with this, And I think
the board, right, Julie and Brad and Paul and John
and Jim and everybody that's willing to volunteer and do this,
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because they look at the future. They look at the
long game. Right, This isn't about in the next two weeks.
We got to get you know, one hundred kids from
a high school. It is the long game, you know,
Like you said, look, you're you know, there's a few
of us maybe on the back five, right, not the
back nine, but the back five. A few of you
guys that are still on like holes six. So you've
got a long way to go, but you're looking into
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the future. And to make sure that when you decide
it's time for you to go to Florida and play
golf for whatever you want to do, that the build
that the trades is in really good place and kids
understand the importance of getting involved in it. Guys, we
got to get to a break as we continue to
talk to Jonathan. Jonathan again, I thought we talked a
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little bit about step beyond Green, but I'm not sure
we'll get to it. But there's a go to that website.
Go to this one Home Building Trades Foundation again if
you're an administrator, and this event that they have coming up,
it's a Home Building Trades's annual career Day May one, schools,
trade pros and awesome organizations that all come together for
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that reason to get high school kids a chance to
understand what it's like to build a home and maybe
some of these kids get involved in the trades. Again.
May first is when you're going to want to do that.
And for schools, look, you get a field trip together
and Jonathan can help you with that. He can answer
any questions that you have. Go to their website, go
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to Home Building Tradesfoundation dot org. This is the creative contustion. Well,
I'm trying to go too fast, Bengo. The Creative Construction
of Wisconsin Home Improvement Show, we got.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Du Department of Yes, we are on Fox Sports nine
twenty and your iHeart Radio App.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Welcome back to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin Home Improvement
Show on Fox Sports ninet twenty and your iHeartRadio App.
Coming live from the Donovan and Jorgans and Heating and
Cooling Studios. I'm Mike McGivern alongside Bingo Emmons. He's the
owner of Creative concer Instruction of Wisconsin and our special guest,
He's the owner of a lot of things. But we're
talking today Home Building Trades Foundation with Jonathan Snovak. Hey, Jonathan,
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when you guys started this, and tell me about kind
of the first couple of meetings. And we had talked
about this before.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Guy, I got a text from Miami, from Miami, from
Miami because this is a really good intent on I guess.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, it's a huge stick.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But it says AI can't build houses.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's a really good point. It's a really good point.
Jonathan will figure it out. That's another company for you, Jonathan,
AI build houses.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Step Beyond AI, Yeah, there.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You go, there you go. When you guys started this
and it started talking about this a number of years ago,
did you have any idea the path that it would
go to go on? And look, I I love the
fact that that you're you want every school. And we
talked and we don't need to get into it because
it hasn't been done yet. But there's a school that
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out there that is not going to be able to
have an actual trade department. But you're still figuring out
ways to get involved with those schools.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So if we think about only graduating a handful of
students in the trade a year, and we think about
thousands of trade openings available, we really wanted to think
on this foundation, how do we break that mold? How
do we put hundreds or if not thousands of trade
graduates out there year?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
And the truth of it is is we'd have to
be in.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Every single high school mic and we can't be there
right and there's not enough funding. And even if there
was enough funding, our biggest thing that we run across
across is who do we get to teach those classes?
We've lost that support group of tea teachers that actually
can can actually be understand the trades and teach. By
the way, those are two way different things, you know.
I mean, teachers have a passion for teaching trades. People
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have a passion for trades, and very rarely do we
ever get the actual combination of that. So what we
found out through all of our research was even if
we got every high school to have a trades program,
it's still we still wouldn't be able to find teachers.
So we wanted to really start thinking, well, how do
we get into schools that will never have a full
fledged trades program. And sure enough, we've put together a
couple of programs that allow us to build basically internships
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within any high school and we're in the We're in
the work so that we hadn't quite can't announce it
to the public quia Yes, okay, But the neat thing
about this is it's gonna give every high school of
the ability to get students who maybe aren't on that
college path, on a path to something, and that might
not be the woods trades, that might be automotive, that
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might that might be even salespeople think about this, Think
of all the people you interact with on the sales
side of things, For windows sales, or you go into
a lumber yard that's actually a trade, yes, you know,
and I think people forget that it doesn't have to
go swing a hammer in the cold weather. That there's
actually all kinds of auxiliary pieces within the trades that
have thousands of open seas as well that don't need
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any bit of like physical labor involvement.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Man. I think that's really important what you just said,
because when when you when you get people in and
if they say, hey, listen, I'm not great at at
at at you know, using a saw or a hammer
there there, that's okay because there there's a lot of
different areas and the sales side I haven't thought about,
but you're right. I mean, and you look at anything
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being go with the bottle of water, somebody sold the
plastic for that. I mean, everything that you touch, somebody
sold it to someone to be able to get it there.
And I think that that's important. The other part of
your website and and for this event coming up on
May first, and I would highly recommend if you're an
administrator for a school Home Building Tradesfoundation dot organ go
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to their events tab Building a Trades Career Day on
May first, you know, it's going to come up a
lot quicker than you think. And there's some work that
has to get involved in this. But take a look
at that. And if you want to put a field
trip together for your school and you have you know, ten, fifteen,
a dozen, whatever, right, how many kids want to get.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Out of busloads that some schools bring seventy five eighty
five students?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Man, that's awesome. And they go to each of the
each of the homes and the pary to home. Absolutely,
you guys are the Bella Vista Subdivision? Is that in
nomine False Well, there you go again. John Bonner, the
assistant principal at Menomie Falls High School, He didn't listen
to me anymore, used to, but then you know, I
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let him marry my daughter. Now he didn't have to
listen to you know, not have Yeah. Now he's got
four boys and he's not going anywhere. Yeah, those boys
aren't living with me. But he this is perfect for him.
And I'll make sure that he sees this because it's
it's the Bella Vista Subdivision is in Menominee Falls, And
he should have made sure that Manomie False High School
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is well represented at this on that page, there's a
contact in RSV RSVP page is while and Julie is
the person that you can call. She got her phone
number right there, and she is the Career day School liaison. Man,
that's quite a title.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It just sounds very important.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, Julie, well done, Julie Metzker. She is the Career
day School liaison phone number and an email address for
any questions that you have. The other part of that
is not just for schools, but the people in the
trades and organizations. You need their help as well.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
If what's amazing is every time I get up and
I do a presentation about the trades to the trades,
the first thing I always ask is how many of
you need to hire someone today?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And very rarely is there.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Ever a hand down me. Yeah, right, I mean everybody,
but more. But what's interesting about that is that but
then I asked them, what are you doing about it?
And it's crickets, So we all need something. But the
problem with the trades is that we're so focused on
doing what we do well, which is built right. I
put it together that this idea of how do I
get around something is really hard, you know, And so
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I think what Career Day offers is if you can
give us a morning, you can impact two hundred plus
students on a decision making process that could help you
feed that pipeline to your company. And if you are there,
they see you. And we're finding out about this small
screen that we carry around with us all the time
and that our students are constantly interacting with, is that
they believe what they see, but they don't necessarily read
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about what they could be right.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And so if you're out there showing students what you
do and how you do it, they see that and
that is more can have a thousand more touches than
if they have to read it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So two years ago, a young man from nick Lay
was our current electric superhero the week. He was about
a six y three bouncy on the basketball floor. But
the kid was really impressive. And when he came in
on the quiet side and he brought a buddy of
his and these two along with two other guys from
Nikolayan and guys from the city that had this plan
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and that I haven't heard from him, so I need
to reach out to him to see where this plan is.
But one was going to become a plumber. One was
going to become an electrician. One that they all had
their what they were going to do, and the idea
was in three years they were going to get their
first home and flip it. And the idea two of
these guys are like, look, by the time I'm forty,
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I want to live in a lake. And that's and
this is the path. These were seniors in high school
that all decided you're going to do this. You'll do
this and when we get when we all get our
skill ready, right, one's an electrician, when we're going to
buy our first home and flip it together, take the profit,
buy another one, and then figure out where we go
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from there. But these guys as seniors in high school,
this is what they talked about. They didn't talk about
how the packers are doing, or how they sat and
talked about the path on how they can get to
where they want to go. At seventeen years old, when
they're thinking like that, this is perfect for them.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And I think what you're saying, I want the audience
to really get grasps. This is that what you saw
on those and those and those boys, it's it's not
a common thing, and I think that's what we're out
there talking about with the fundation with adults. People say,
how come you talk to just the adults as much
as you talk to the students, Because the truth of
it is is that you don't see that if I'm
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sitting at home, your student, your your your daughter's son,
daughter is engaged in that phone, right or they're engaged there.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
So you don't get the opportunity. Sometimes they don't have
that vision.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
And you know what, that's okay, Like we focus so
much on the students that have the vision and where
they want to go. But the truth of it is
is that there's more people out there senior year that
go I have no idea, And it's scary to commit
to that dollar amount in a four year program when
you have nothing that you are actually even and you're
moltely interested in.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You know, I talked about Bengo this week. There's a
woman I I do some business with the Ideal Logos
and Awards over on Highway hundred and Ken Whisky's.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He's in a woman your psychiatrist. You're talking to you.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, No, not that one, No, that's next door, that
was next star. But her, her, her son is a
junior in high school and what he wants to do
is be a carpenter. That's what he wants. But he's
very quiet. Her her daughter is a designer and she's
very outgoing, and and she said, if I could combine
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these two somehow, But he just he his grandfather like
he had spent him, like spend a bunch of time
in a wood shop with him and doing all this
work and what he wants to be as a carpenter.
But he does. He's a little nervous about going out
and introducing to himself and shaking hands. Where the daughter
is this, this designer, and she sees things before it happens.
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And she just said, if the two of them could
could be, then my daughter could do all the talking
and my son could do all the work, which would
be perfect.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
A carpenter that doesn't talk a lot, he can get
a job pretty easily.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, I told him, you know what I always got to.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Hear about her packers lost for three days in a row.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
There you go. I told her about Creative Construction Wisconsin
and the girl that we had in that would wanted
to be a carpenter and now works for it. Basically,
leads up that department for you. I said, look, I
could get him a ride along. Shit, I'm telling you,
he could see first thing and what it looks.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And a lot of us do ride alongs, and you know,
the trades probably do ride alongs. We do ride alongs,
but Aaron push us a one step further. You don't
just sit there and just watch.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Last week, he goes, You're not coming on a ride
along to watch, You're coming to Let's go more on
the laborer side, he said, And we keep him safe,
but they do some work, you know, and then they
get a real feel for for what we're doing with
this whole thing. How has the response been in at
the school level for what you guys are trying to do.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I well, I can't keep track of the amount of
schools that are reaching out to us at this point.
They're like, we hear you're doing something different, and we
hear you're being successful at it. And I think one
of the things that if I can kind of piggyback
on your the job shadowing thing is there are hundreds
of companies at job shadow. There is nobody out there
organizing how to get them to those those companies and
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That's one of the things that has been our most
successful program so far is that our online job shadowing
sign up. Meaning if it doesn't matter what school you are,
what age you are, you have to be a junior
or senior or older. So if you're auto. So if
you have that student right now sitting at home after graduation,
going I don't know this, what we've our research said
is there's no place to put them in an avenue
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after they graduate.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
None, like you have to pick a trade.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You have to.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I mean there's but how what if you don't know?
So the job shadowing program that we put up and
it's online on our website, you can actually sign sign
up through a form there. You can connect up to
three to five to seven different trades. They're all listed
and that that list is growing underneath it, and we're
going to connect you to a half day job shadowing
program bengals on that that that list and these are
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interactive job shadowing. There's actually guidelines for the trades person.
There's guidelines for the student or the young adult that's
attending it. But more important is it's importantly is it's
central life. How what do I do next? Everybody asked me,
what do we do next? Right, We're gonna try andsolve that.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well. I love that And Julie can answer all those
questions for you absolutely. Yeah. Because her title says she
can't Billy Liaison. She yeah, that's that's awesome. We're gonna
get to a break other side of the break. I
got a number of questions, or we're gonna go rapid
fire on a few of these questions. He is Jonathan Sanovak,
and I just wonder when he sleeps because the owner
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of Source one Project Solutions, he's the founder of Step
Beyond Green. He's the president of the company that we're
talking about right now. The foundation, it's Home Building Trades Foundation.
Go to Home Building Tradesfoundation dot org to get more information.
And if you're an administrator that you know is tuning
in right now because you love the Home Improvement show
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or you're waiting for the high school Sports show that's
coming up next, do yourself a favor Home Building Tradesfoundation
dot org and get an idea, especially for this may
first event that that you're your school can put together
a you know, an outing for kids, a field trip
so they can get an idea on what what it
looks like from the skeleton side of it and what
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it takes to when Kyla Wood becomes a cozy home.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I'm was saying, but you don't have to like if
you say, well, I go, I don't want to be residential.
I don't want to be commercial. I want to be
just when you go look at this stuff, you're not
committing to it, correct, You're just observing. Well, because because
we've had people comes with us, they work for us
about a year or so and he's like, you know,
I really want to be electrician, you know, and then
we know electricians.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Well, you get to him, you know, on this May
first event, you get to meet real trade heroes, chat
and learn from the masters and building, plumbing, electrical and more. Jonathan,
this is this website's really good. Gives you a lot
of information. Again, you can go to that website Home
Building Trades Foundation dot org. This is the Creative Construction
(34:50):
of Wisconsin Home Improvement show on Fox Sports nine twenty
in your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back to the Creative
Construction of Wisconsin Home Improvement show on Fox Sports nine
your iHeartRadio app. As always, coming live from the Donovan
and Jorgensen hit any cooling studios.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You know, I'm looking good. I got our tex from Indianapolis. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well, and and look, I've been told that Jonathan shouldn't
be here. It should be Julie metzger time. Oh she
is again Career Day Schools liaison. And I love the
fact that she is willing to answer any questions. Got
her phone number right on on on the website. If
you're an administrator that wants to learn more about this organization,
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this foundation, Home Building Trades Foundation. Jonathan can answer questions,
but let's be honest, you'd rather be Julie, right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's similar to our company, right, what do you were
just talking about this off there? Who do you talk
to about stuff?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Sam?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
And hey Jonathan? When when when another company that they
were a co sponsor of this show and when they
decided not to do it anymore? Baby Shade and Black
Good guys, right, and they thought, we don't think we
want to do this some more. I call Bingo. He goes, yeah,
I'll take it all. And I go no, nope, he
goes no, No, it'll be our show. Like what then
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we can bring the guests we want. I go, you
get the approval from Sam and Deb and then let
me know because I am not having them meeting. I
want them both to sign it and dat it because
I'm telling you they Sam and Deb for me like
I love Bingo, I love Zach, I love and I
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love all of them, but they really kind of keep us,
keep us on the rails a little bit and everyone's
while Sam would be like, hey, don't forget to ask this.
Don't forget to say that we do at Creative Construction
because we don't talk a ton about their company on
this show. We talk about our guests and the stuff
they're doing. But every once in a while, don't forget we do,
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you know, ride walks at the high school level, so
the kids in high school want to come and learn
what we're doing. So I got to make sure that
I do that.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
But she, uh, oh, yeah, you have to go to Sam.
I mean, because Bingo will promise you the world and
Sam will tell you how much of the world you
actually get.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, I did that. That's great. I'm using that line
pell any anybody that's that listening. And you you're the
school administrators that I hear from all the time. When
it comes to the high school show. Julie Metzger is
the Career Day School liaison, and I'm sure that she
can answer if somebody like Wayne Jensen form Milwaukee Luther
and would like Julie to come out and talk about
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what she could do a site check at Milwaukee Luther
to say, look, this is what you're doing in the
trades in your school. Here's how we can.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Help correct absolutely, and and and usually Julian will will
drag me along, I say, because she thinks she needs
to support. By the truth of it is, she can
run the whole organization. And I love her to death
for that, but yeah, don't. It's it's one of those
things where sometimes even if you can't get to this
year's career Day, like we start this as soon as
career Day is done May first, the next month, we
have to go and talk to administrators of school. Is
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because we know how hard it is to get bussing.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
We know a translation. So if that's a hold back, if.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
You actually have some sort of reason you do what
you can go talk to Julie or myself or somebody
at the foundation, because we have ways of subsidizing that bus,
We have ways of getting students out of it out
of school that are excused afferences, like, there are ways
around it that we've actually worked with State of physials on.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
So if you say, well, I can't take.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
My student out that day because they're gonna lose, they're
gonna it is a excuse absence. We have the paper
the paperwork. There is no excuse for you not to
attend the city.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Is there sponsorship opportunities for companies that because you said, look,
we have ways to offset the costs and I would
assume that's that's all sponsorship.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
So without the dollars of the people who's sponsored, we
couldn't make those offsets possible. So if you are, if
you have an opportunity, you can't be at the event,
but can help in any way offset the cost this event,
that would be great.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Beautiful, Hey bingo, when when we talk about, you know,
the the involvement of companies in something like this, If
you're a company that's looking to get involved and you're
you're involved in everything, what would you tell a company
that hasn't put their toe on the water that why
being part of the Home Building Trades Foundation is important.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Just start, take the first step, make the call, Just
get started. Don't say we're gonna work on this, We're
gonna we're gonna put this on our budget. Just get started,
because uh, if you're looking for workers, I mean you
should been doing this a long time ago. I mean
we're okay, there's all this commercial going on, there's remodeling
going on, you know, the nahab is all talks. We're
short three million homes. I mean, there's not enough workers
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to do all the work there is. It isn't like
you're gonna run out. Uh, it isn't like you're gonna
be working for a company forever. I mean, you can
start working for a company in seven eight years. You
can start your own business and go in there and
you know the American dream. I mean you can. It's
it's a career. They're not. This isn't a summer job.
This is a career that they're teaching.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
You. Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Jonathans to kind of piggyback on that, I think it's
like why why be be part of this? And I
think when I when when we interviewed the trades during
this this this two year period, the biggest thing that
they says they don't have the time to train someone.
They won't hire and if you think about that right,
because because as you're an hourly, you're based on an
hourly scenario. I only get paid X y z to
frame a house. It's not like as an endless supply
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of money. So they're worried that they're bringing young adults in.
They're lasting one week and they're leaving, and that's a
lot of energy and time to do them. So that's
why the job shaowing program. If you want to start,
sign up as a trades person through job shotting program,
because you get.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Them for four hours.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
It's a pre interview.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Folks think about it like, here's the time to have
one student per month come through your job site and
interview them on the fly, get to know them a
bit for four hours, and then they might one out
of ten of those might come back and ask for
a job.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well, you've already done in this.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
You know that they're a good worker, they're hard at
I mean, this is the easiest way to commit because
you don't have to think. We supply the paperwork, what
you're supposed to do, how you're supposed to do, We
take care of the insurances, We make sure they get
there and get home. I mean, at this point, there's
no reason why someone why should you help out the
home Eily Transplornations because it's easy.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Right, and you guys are doing really good work with this.
And what I like is you took your time with
this company and you didn't say, okay, now we're a
foundation and who knows what's going to happen after that.
You have taken all of this into consideration. And it's
really when you say, look, it's easy. I know because
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I coach at the high school level. They like easy
sometimes because not a lot of what they do comes down.
You don't have a Julie, a Julie Metzger that's there
to answer these questions. Now she's got a full time job,
she's got another job, but I can tell you that
she's really busy with this foundation.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Absolutely, Julie.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Julia spends day and day and night making sure this
career day event is a success, not for the not
for the trades, but for the students.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
We should have let Julie know that every time we
said our name she owed us a dollar because we'd
be we'd be having lunch today. I miss Julie, you know,
next time we should probably have her come in studio
as well when we're talking about this, because I would
like to get her some of the questions she gets
as the liaison between the schools. I would like to
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be able to have her answer the questions because I've
got to believe that some of the questions, like you
had said, look we can't give them a day off,
well you can. And look it's we're okay. We got
the paperwork. All of the questions she gets from some
of the administrators, we can answer it all at one
one felt swooping. And I think that having her in
next time we talk about the foundation, if she's willing
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to come.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
In, Oh, I can make sure she's willing.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
We're not going to say your name as many times
as we said you really's name. That that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
But I think what she's would like you know that
guy I work out with?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, that that that that other guy that I bring
to some of the school opportunities. I think is really important. Again,
if you go to their website, it's Home Building Tradesfoundation
dot org. If you're an administrator, if you're if you're
a parent of a kid who's not quite sure what
they're going to do when they graduate, or they have
graduated and they're still trying to figure out what their career,
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not a job, what their career is. You go to
Home Building Tradesfoundation dot org and take a look at
some of the things that they're offering for your your
your kid, if you're a parent, a grandparent like me.
Who look, I've got a freshman in high school. I
don't know, you know, he's there's some things that he's
thinking about doing, I think when he's done with high school.
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But right now, he's just trying to figure out how
to get more shots up in the gym. And I
always ask him, any pretty girl say hiie, And now
not today, Papa. I go, come on, are you sure
I'm telling you no pretty girls said hi to me?
Who knows if the trades is something that he's.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I'm going to do this story about your kid. I
was asking your kid, you know, you can cock that yourself,
you know, And I was like, I don't want to
do it. He says, your dad didn't even trying to
do that. He goes, no, but he's taught me how
to dribble in my left hand.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
But yeh, that's it. That's all I take. I take that,
and he played four years of college basketball, so I
did okay with that, but being able to cock up
on the roof and by the chimney, No, we got
to Creative Construction Wisconsin came out. Hey, Jonathan, thank you
so much really quickly Step Beyond Green. You guys doing
great still.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Yeah, we're going to be at the Home and Garden
Show coming up in another month with the largest display
at the Home and Garden Show, so please come come
out and learn about how to make your home healthier.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Man, that's awesome. He is Jonathan Snovak again. He is
the founder of Step Beyond Green. He's the owner of
Source one Project Solutions, and he is the president of
Home Building Trades Foundation. Go to Home Building Home Building
Trades Foundation dot org. I'm sure he's got coffee and
what he's drinking over there, that is for sure. It's
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good to see you.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
It was great to be on the showy.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Thank you. Yeah, thank you so much. Bengo. It's good
to see you. Any any races you're going to this
week or.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Well, Atlanta, but I'm not going to it.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
When's the next one, Bristol?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
My next one will probably be in you five hundred.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Okay, Yeah, I'm going to Bristol. Not supposed to lie
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Speaker 2 (00:25):
I wonder if they're busy last week.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Oh, they were really busy. Yeah, really busy and in
a good way. Man. You know they guys like me
calling them on Sunday and yeah, look, you got to
make sure you still have heat. We're not over this
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as well. I am Mike mcgiffre, Thanks for joining us.
My coach is Bingo Emmons. He's the owner of Creative
Construction with Scotts and Bingo and seen it a couple
of weeks.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Busy going busy. Well, you know, get the race going
on last weekend. I'm sure you watched every.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
Last I taped it. I've watched it fifteen sixteen times,
watching reverse crash right at the end.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
You watched the reverse just get better, right.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
The crash right at the end, and the guy slipped
through and won it, right, you know? You know how
I know that because that might produce I.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
Was really impressed. So you actually did watch the end?
Speaker 1 (01:19):
No, I didn't. Sorry I missed it, but I tried.
But there's a rain delay, I.
Speaker 2 (01:23):
Think, Yeah, there was a little bit of raindolay.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
Yes, good guess on my part that we quit laughing
over it.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
It makes it for a really long day, I bet yeah,
because you get there five o'clock in the morning, and
I was like, oh, you know, man, you don't get
out of there until midnight.
Speaker 1 (01:37):
You know, maybe next year I'll go with, Oh, no,
I'm really busy, really busy. You get there at five,
you're out at midnight. That doesn't sound like me.
Speaker 2 (01:45):
You can come to the Bristol race that when you
get done with that race, you can't hear at a
so long.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
No, I think I'll stick with basketball. That's kind of
my deal, and that was big news. But the real
big news from last week that you can announce.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Well, yes, it's definitely good. We can know officially announcement. No, yeap,
the window is window one. Yeah, they won a thousand dollars.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
You've been pushing that for months and people.
Speaker 2 (02:11):
Came my campaign, your lead. My campaigned pretty good. And
it's just great to see those people because one they're superintendent,
I mean there their staff, the counselors, like I said,
you mean the witness superintendent. They were all on the
same page making this thing.
Speaker 1 (02:26):
Well, when we had the young guy from Witnel and
he was a sophomore and the leader of that crew,
and I said, you guys, you think you have a chance,
he goes, absolutely. My team's done a really good job.
We had a chance to win this thing and they did.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We really proud of U. And it
was cool to find out that I didn't realize he
was actually you know, he's a plaster he's a plaster
kid himself. So I'm trying to recruit him, No, he's him.
I'm trying to take him from his grandpa, but his.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Grandpa will not let him wear red. And we you know,
it's been fun if you abroad and we could have
gotten pictures with him standing outside your truck.
Speaker 2 (02:57):
And well, I also want to bring up that uh
act has been going to church every day last week.
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Okay, yeah, why is that?
Speaker 2 (03:03):
Well, because we're working on Holy Hill, so he has
no choice.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
There you go. How's the Madison project coming along?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Yeah, that's doing pretty good. Yeah, there was some really
great pictures that if you go to a website you
see them. You know.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Aaron's so product.
Speaker 2 (03:16):
Yeah, it's it's it's a really big project to begin with.
You know, we're working we're doing that with the with
an area, the president of the area, Madison. So okay,
we had a collaboration with those two guys, and it's
it's a really good job.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
Do you know what happened Aaron last week? You know,
we had that snow with a bunch of snow and
he went out and the truck had a flat. He
couldn't get it out, so he took Sam's car and
he's like, you know, Sam's if she's thinking about going anywhere,
she can't go anywhere. So he was texting her and yeah,
it was it was a little bit rough, but.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
He got here. Oh yeah, well I still listened to
show what I could because you know it does go
all the way everywhere.
Speaker 1 (03:51):
You know on the iHeart Radio app. As I listened
to iHeart Radio app, Jonathan, I told you we might
not get you for the first segment, you know what,
And that's okay, but what you perfect timing. We talk
about Witno and how proud we are of that group
and that school winning the award.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Doing a presentation at twelve thirty on Thursday. So if
I ay, these people, all the students that were there,
that's when we're gonna do a presentation.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
And they get they get a trophy, and I.
Speaker 2 (04:17):
Think in a thousand dollars from the Foundation for Winning.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
Man that they'll put right into tools and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
I would think, well you think, so you can put
it in their pocket, do whatever they want. We're giving
them a chance.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
There you go. Yeah, does that go to the school?
Is it go to the teacher? How does that work?
Speaker 2 (04:31):
You know it's written out the winnow. Yeah, therefore they'll
figure it out, so somebody will somebody will find some
way to spend it.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
But from from the people that were at the Narrow
Show that I talked to, they and they all walked
through the greenhouse growth projects. They were like, man, these
kids did a great job on these.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah, it's so great. That's you know, that's what you
That's what I always like about these projects on the NBA.
Even when the NBA does their thing, I like the
way they do it. It just shows that there's a
there's a chance, there's a hope for the future. Because
as we're typical truction when our special guests is also
going to talk about today but trying to get people
in their trades, right, you know, in the old days.
I was like, well, you know, trying to do everything
else if we can't get a job going to construction.
(05:08):
It's not that way, No, it's not. We need skilled
trade people that make it want to make a living.
Speaker 1 (05:13):
You know, be good living. Before Jonathan and our special
guest in studio for the entire hour, and let me
introduce him because he's over there laughing. Jonathan Snovak. He
is the founder of Step Beyond Green, the owner of
Source one Project Solutions, and also the president, I guess
of Home Building Trades Foundation. I said, Jonathan, you started
(05:34):
in another company. He's like, yeah, I'm an idiot. I
don't know. I just keep doing this stuff. But perfect
timing for what we were just talking about with Whitnell
and the Greenhouse Growth Project. Home Building Trades Foundation, and
let me kind of give you what their what their
statement and their mission is to engage in programs and
activities for the benefit and enlightenment.
Speaker 3 (05:57):
You know.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
I'm goodness, job.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
Would I was great if I don't have to speak
at this.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
I was just in the middle of their mission statement.
Anything else you got, mister Evans before I continue?
Speaker 2 (06:08):
Well, I actually I actually started my own uh you know,
because the fit, you know, the whole political thing that's
going on, It was like this, I started my own program.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
What's it called.
Speaker 2 (06:16):
Uh, It's called DOPE Department of Plaster Plaster Inefficiency.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Well, I'm not going to ask you the president of DOPES.
I'm not There's a lot of different ways that could
take that word, and I'm just gonna stay away from it.
Getting back to Jonathan again. This is the mission statement
for Home Building Trades Foundation. Excuse me, and you can
go to Home Building Tradesfoundation dot org to look at
their website. But to engage in programs and activities for
(06:45):
the benefit and enlightenment of the public with respect to
home building and remodeling. And their vision is to get
kids at the high school level, I believe, and we'll
ask Jonathan about it, to get them partnered with some
home building industry businesses that support programs. And these kids
didn't get a chance to really get hands on it
(07:06):
in this single Jonathan, you guys started this a few
years ago, and you said, look, it took us a
couple of years to do the research because we didn't
want to do what everybody else was doing, because we're
not getting as many kids as we want. And we
thought if we tweaked it a little bit and did
it the way that our board in the way that
(07:26):
I have a vision for it, I think we're going
to be really successful. So far, so good with this.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
Yeah, when I say two three years, I mean it
was people thought that we had started this foundation then
it had disappeared, and the truth but it was is
that if you think about even any type of industry,
what do we try and do We try to make awareness,
We try and throw some people out in engagement, and
we hope for the best. And we've been doing this
and other foundation been doing this for twenty years and
(07:53):
we're still only graduating thirty five to forty students in
the trade from a handful of high schools we have
in the state of Wisconsin. We need fifteen thousand people
in the trades a year, and we graduate less than
five hundred. There's a huge deficit here, right, and we
can't keep doing the same pattern. If you think about
when we were younger. Now, I know that was a
(08:14):
long time ago for all of us, but in high school.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
A little bit longer for two of us.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
You know what, you guys are young at heart, So
I'm going to say.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
It wasn't immature. That really helps if.
Speaker 4 (08:24):
We think about how high school was back then. We
had an entire half of the high school dedicated to trades,
and trades we've narrowed down to like electrical and mechanical
and rough frame. But the truth is trades was automotive,
it was drafting, was engineering, it was small engines, it
was home ec I mean, let's just be honest, right,
And so we had all these opportunities for people to
(08:45):
think of a secondary path. And now what we've done
if he's gotten rid of all those and now we're
expecting a small trade sector to come back in high
schools and develop hundreds of students and that's just not
happening right.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
Well, here's what I love, and I spent a lot
of time on your website, the event that's coming up
on May first, And what I like about that page
on your website is it says, schools, trade pros, and
awesome organizations join the adventure of the Prey to home
site in twenty twenty five. And you you go right
(09:17):
out and say, look, schools calling, all schools, bring your
class and witness the awesome world of home building a
field trip they'll never forget. And this rings right out
to I've got out of my son and his wife
is a teacher, my daughter's a teacher at Miwakie Luther,
and my son in law is a assistant principal at
(09:39):
Menominie False High School. This rings out because these guys
are looking for some you know, come May you want
to Okay, I'm sitting in front of these kids all year.
Let's do something that we can get them out on
a field trip and see something that might impact their
lives as they go older, grow older. And this on
May first, look bring your class, yes, and get involved
(10:01):
in this thing. And I just think it's again you're
you're looking a way to be a little bit different.
This is different, and I commend you for that.
Speaker 4 (10:12):
It's our most sought after pro program a year after year.
We're going on year five with this and two hundred
plus students attend it. The one thing I want to
say is that if your school isn't attending, actually it's
it's open to anyone.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
So let's just even say after high school.
Speaker 4 (10:27):
If you've got someone sitting around the house right now,
that's like I didn't go to I didn't go to college.
I'm not sure what to do. We invite you to
come to this to this event. This event hosts four
to five homes that are in the middle of construction,
so some are at the end of framing, some are
in drywall, some are in and then we have trades
in the garages showing you how to put trim packages
on and roofing. I mean this is this is an
(10:49):
all out blitz to five different homes and five different stages.
And when you get to talk to multiple trades, anywhere
from fifteen to twenty different trades will be there. Excavators
if you want to see how to dig a hole,
they'll be an excavator there like it's actually a great
exposure point to a lot of variety of different trades
as supposed to just visiting one.
Speaker 1 (11:06):
Well here my favorite line on this on the website,
discover how a pile of wood becomes a cozy house?
Like perfect? Can can you be the next great builder,
electrician designer? You know? Come find out? And the other
part is they're not just going to come and stand there.
I mean there are some ways where they can they
can try, they can get involved in this thing and
(11:29):
just to be able to see if this is something
they want to want to try as they get older
and get into the trades. I think this is a
wonderful opportunity for administrators that listen to this show. And
I know they do because they got a number of
them reached out when we had Tom Herman on a
few weeks ago, saying the principal at Milwaukee Luther and
(11:49):
Wayne Jensen. Doctor Jensen sent me a text and said,
could you please get me in contact with him because
this is something that we need desperately and I'd like
to meet him. And so when I have administrators at
different high schools reaching out to get Tom Herman's contact
information from this show. And look a lot of times
these guys start, you know, listening to around eight thirty
(12:12):
quarter nine kids. I go to high school sports at
nine o'clock. But these are the guys that are reaching
out saying our school is in desperate need of an
opportunity like this. And I think that to be able
to do a field trip for some of these kids
to this on May first is just a great opportunity.
Speaker 4 (12:30):
I can't even begin to explain the looks on students
face faces. And I like to call them young adults.
I mean, we're rescuing eighteen year olds to go to
a job site, right, I mean, let's just be honest
to juniors and seniors they're doing adults and just have
them walk around and they get so intrigued with well,
if you can do this, can you do that? We
had a woman come last year. She was a senior,
and she's like, hey, I really think about the trades,
(12:52):
but those those machines in the back.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
We were at a sub division.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
They are moving dirt with those big big trucks that
shovel dirt and a bluck and everything.
Speaker 3 (13:00):
She's like, how do I do that?
Speaker 4 (13:02):
And so sure enough we were able to connect her
with that excavator excavation crew. She actually ended up with
a job after high school in that company just from
that day alone.
Speaker 1 (13:11):
So and we're going to continue to talk about this
throughout the throughout the entire show, and you can go
to their website Homebuilding Tradesfoundation dot org. Home Building Tradesfoundation
dot org. On My High School Show, Jonathan, we do
a thing called the Kernel Electric Superhero of the Week,
and it's not somebody involved in sports. We get away
from sports. The kid this week played tight end for
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Wisconsin Lutheroran in high school. He's going to Martin Luther
up in Minnesota, so he's he has some sports background,
but a lot of times it's a kid from the choir.
And one of the questions I asked, and I'm gonna
I'm gonna ask you this because it's so apparent to me,
but I asked them that servant leadership heart that they
have is not something you're born with. It's a learned behavior.
(13:56):
And look step beyond green. I know where that that
came from. This You're not getting rich on this thing.
I know that I'm wondering where that came from. That
that servant leadership hard for you personally. Where do you
think you learned that?
Speaker 3 (14:11):
Where I learned it? Yeah, because it's not something.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
We're born that giving back and trying to get people
to give your time, to get people to get an
idea on Maybe this is the the the career that
I have that I should be involved in. I'm wondering
where this servant leadership art came from for you.
Speaker 4 (14:30):
For me, it definitely many many year years ago came
from me wondering where I was supposed to be, like
what is my job here?
Speaker 3 (14:38):
And then I kept.
Speaker 4 (14:39):
Getting like little knocks on the on the door, like hey,
you know, there's people that are suffering, and I'm not
suffering in a physical kind of way, but in that
our industry, the trade industry in general, architecture, building design.
I was a commercial architect at the time, and I
just I kept hearing people say, no one's willing to help.
And how many times have you heard someone say, you know,
(15:00):
I called the service to the call center and they
didn't help me, right, they told me what to do,
but it didn't help me. We just get so bombarded
with no one's willing to help that I felt like
what if someone was willing to help. And as soon
as I did that once, the feeling that you get
when that person comes and says, if it wasn't for you,
I wouldn't have been able to do that.
Speaker 1 (15:21):
Do you know, Jonathan? And I know, I don't know
if I've ever asked Bingo because I already know the
answer because I knew his dead right, I knew El
and l. At the end of Al's life, all he
was interested in was helping people because he had and
we had this conversation at his kitchen table. He said, look,
when my wife was sick, I was I had to
(15:42):
go to seventeen different websites to find out to find
people that are willing to help us. And so I'm
going to put this all on one website for people
that are going through what I went through. So I
know because Bingo, if you want help on something, to
ask him because he'll help you. And his whole family
is like that. So we're zac learned and where Sam
learned it was from deb and from Bingo. And I
(16:05):
know where Bingo learned it from, and that was from now.
And it's interesting that you said, look, once I did it,
the feeling I got because these kids that come in.
I've had a number of kids during that Curl Electric
Superhero the week say to me, I didn't know that
I was getting more out of it than the people
I was helping, But I got way more out of it.
So then I volunteered over here too, and then I
(16:27):
went over here and did it because I was getting
more out of it than they were.
Speaker 4 (16:30):
And I think the best connection that you're saying there, Mike,
is think about the fact that if we don't offer
that opportunity within the trades and schools, if that isn't
a talking subject, if they didn't know. I think what
you said it best is well I didn't know, right.
We need to think about that word a segment I
didn't know, and how do we solve that for young adults.
Speaker 2 (16:50):
It is also, this isn't like a make work program
trying to find something to just throw money away to
do something. These are trades that actually need people to help, right.
And he's going to mean you say, well, I can't wait.
You know, I don't know. I'm not that smart enough.
I don't know what to do. These companies will all
train you to be the best that these companies are
going to train you for a career, not just a
(17:11):
summer job, to train you to do something. Then you're
gonna have more money than your friends.
Speaker 1 (17:16):
Well, and part of the vision of this company home
Building Trades Foundation, And there's three points in their vision,
but the one that jumped out to me was sustain
our financial stability and efficient operations. And then when you
move over to the values like I we believe our
imagination will connect multiple generations for success. That rings out.
(17:41):
Look at multiple you want to talk about multiple generations
that have involved in creative construction Wisconsin. I mean you
should put their company right up on your website and
go look six generations. You know, what they've done is
the imagination will connect multiple generations for success. And I
think that's a really good value of a foundation.
Speaker 4 (18:04):
Yeah, and I think Bingo's family is the culture he's created.
I think that's that's what people don't remember, is the
word culture. You know, it's not something you have to
create on your own, something that you were involved in.
And if we don't change that mindset, like you're saying,
if I think back to my growing up, Yes, my
father was a Catholic knight. We volunteered at the church
all the time. I mean, I think that giving side
(18:24):
is embedded. However, I've talked to so many unfortunate families
that didn't have that that have an outcome now of
the giving side. So even though you don't have it
in the past, I guess I would really push forward
to say you can make that change. Become the start point,
not the endpoint.
Speaker 1 (18:40):
And when you said, look, I once I did it,
and I found out how it made me feel, and
I was helping people, which is great. I just think
that that's awesome. Well done with this, And I think
the board, right, Julie and Brad and Paul and John
and Jim and everybody that's willing to volunteer and do this,
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because they look at the future. They look at the
long game. Right, This isn't about in the next two weeks.
We got to get you know, one hundred kids from
a high school. It is the long game, you know,
Like you said, look, you're you know, there's a few
of us maybe on the back five, right, not the
back nine, but the back five. A few of you
guys that are still on like holes six. So you've
got a long way to go, but you're looking into
(19:23):
the future. And to make sure that when you decide
it's time for you to go to Florida and play
golf for whatever you want to do, that the build
that the trades is in really good place and kids
understand the importance of getting involved in it. Guys, we
got to get to a break as we continue to
talk to Jonathan. Jonathan again, I thought we talked a
(19:44):
little bit about step beyond Green, but I'm not sure
we'll get to it. But there's a go to that website.
Go to this one Home Building Trades Foundation again if
you're an administrator, and this event that they have coming up,
it's a Home Building Trades's annual career Day May one, schools,
trade pros and awesome organizations that all come together for
(20:06):
that reason to get high school kids a chance to
understand what it's like to build a home and maybe
some of these kids get involved in the trades. Again.
May first is when you're going to want to do that.
And for schools, look, you get a field trip together
and Jonathan can help you with that. He can answer
any questions that you have. Go to their website, go
(20:26):
to Home Building Tradesfoundation dot org. This is the creative contustion. Well,
I'm trying to go too fast, Bengo. The Creative Construction
of Wisconsin Home Improvement Show, we got.
Speaker 2 (20:36):
Du Department of Yes, we are on Fox Sports nine
twenty and your iHeart Radio App.
Speaker 1 (20:45):
Welcome back to the Creative Construction of Wisconsin Home Improvement
Show on Fox Sports ninet twenty and your iHeartRadio App.
Coming live from the Donovan and Jorgans and Heating and
Cooling Studios. I'm Mike McGivern alongside Bingo Emmons. He's the
owner of Creative concer Instruction of Wisconsin and our special guest,
He's the owner of a lot of things. But we're
talking today Home Building Trades Foundation with Jonathan Snovak. Hey, Jonathan,
(21:10):
when you guys started this, and tell me about kind
of the first couple of meetings. And we had talked
about this before.
Speaker 2 (21:17):
Guy, I got a text from Miami, from Miami, from
Miami because this is a really good intent on I guess.
Speaker 1 (21:24):
Yeah, it's a huge stick.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
But it says AI can't build houses.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
That's a really good point. It's a really good point.
Jonathan will figure it out. That's another company for you, Jonathan,
AI build houses.
Speaker 2 (21:39):
Step Beyond AI, Yeah, there.
Speaker 1 (21:40):
You go, there you go. When you guys started this
and it started talking about this a number of years ago,
did you have any idea the path that it would
go to go on? And look, I I love the
fact that that you're you want every school. And we
talked and we don't need to get into it because
it hasn't been done yet. But there's a school that
(22:02):
out there that is not going to be able to
have an actual trade department. But you're still figuring out
ways to get involved with those schools.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
So if we think about only graduating a handful of
students in the trade a year, and we think about
thousands of trade openings available, we really wanted to think
on this foundation, how do we break that mold? How
do we put hundreds or if not thousands of trade
graduates out there year?
Speaker 3 (22:28):
And the truth of it is is we'd have to
be in.
Speaker 4 (22:30):
Every single high school mic and we can't be there
right and there's not enough funding. And even if there
was enough funding, our biggest thing that we run across
across is who do we get to teach those classes?
We've lost that support group of tea teachers that actually
can can actually be understand the trades and teach. By
the way, those are two way different things, you know.
I mean, teachers have a passion for teaching trades. People
(22:53):
have a passion for trades, and very rarely do we
ever get the actual combination of that. So what we
found out through all of our research was even if
we got every high school to have a trades program,
it's still we still wouldn't be able to find teachers.
So we wanted to really start thinking, well, how do
we get into schools that will never have a full
fledged trades program. And sure enough, we've put together a
couple of programs that allow us to build basically internships
(23:16):
within any high school and we're in the We're in
the work so that we hadn't quite can't announce it
to the public quia Yes, okay, But the neat thing
about this is it's gonna give every high school of
the ability to get students who maybe aren't on that
college path, on a path to something, and that might
not be the woods trades, that might be automotive, that
(23:38):
might that might be even salespeople think about this, Think
of all the people you interact with on the sales
side of things, For windows sales, or you go into
a lumber yard that's actually a trade, yes, you know,
and I think people forget that it doesn't have to
go swing a hammer in the cold weather. That there's
actually all kinds of auxiliary pieces within the trades that
have thousands of open seas as well that don't need
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any bit of like physical labor involvement.
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Man. I think that's really important what you just said,
because when when you when you get people in and
if they say, hey, listen, I'm not great at at
at at you know, using a saw or a hammer
there there, that's okay because there there's a lot of
different areas and the sales side I haven't thought about,
but you're right. I mean, and you look at anything
(24:24):
being go with the bottle of water, somebody sold the
plastic for that. I mean, everything that you touch, somebody
sold it to someone to be able to get it there.
And I think that that's important. The other part of
your website and and for this event coming up on
May first, and I would highly recommend if you're an
administrator for a school Home Building Tradesfoundation dot organ go
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to their events tab Building a Trades Career Day on
May first, you know, it's going to come up a
lot quicker than you think. And there's some work that
has to get involved in this. But take a look
at that. And if you want to put a field
trip together for your school and you have you know, ten, fifteen,
a dozen, whatever, right, how many kids want to get.
Speaker 4 (25:05):
Out of busloads that some schools bring seventy five eighty
five students?
Speaker 1 (25:10):
Man, that's awesome. And they go to each of the
each of the homes and the pary to home. Absolutely,
you guys are the Bella Vista Subdivision? Is that in
nomine False Well, there you go again. John Bonner, the
assistant principal at Menomie Falls High School, He didn't listen
to me anymore, used to, but then you know, I
(25:32):
let him marry my daughter. Now he didn't have to
listen to you know, not have Yeah. Now he's got
four boys and he's not going anywhere. Yeah, those boys
aren't living with me. But he this is perfect for him.
And I'll make sure that he sees this because it's
it's the Bella Vista Subdivision is in Menominee Falls, And
he should have made sure that Manomie False High School
(25:53):
is well represented at this on that page, there's a
contact in RSV RSVP page is while and Julie is
the person that you can call. She got her phone
number right there, and she is the Career day School liaison. Man,
that's quite a title.
Speaker 3 (26:10):
It just sounds very important.
Speaker 1 (26:12):
Yeah, Julie, well done, Julie Metzker. She is the Career
day School liaison phone number and an email address for
any questions that you have. The other part of that
is not just for schools, but the people in the
trades and organizations. You need their help as well.
Speaker 3 (26:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 4 (26:29):
If what's amazing is every time I get up and
I do a presentation about the trades to the trades,
the first thing I always ask is how many of
you need to hire someone today?
Speaker 3 (26:39):
And very rarely is there.
Speaker 4 (26:40):
Ever a hand down me. Yeah, right, I mean everybody,
but more. But what's interesting about that is that but
then I asked them, what are you doing about it?
And it's crickets, So we all need something. But the
problem with the trades is that we're so focused on
doing what we do well, which is built right. I
put it together that this idea of how do I
get around something is really hard, you know, And so
(27:02):
I think what Career Day offers is if you can
give us a morning, you can impact two hundred plus
students on a decision making process that could help you
feed that pipeline to your company. And if you are there,
they see you. And we're finding out about this small
screen that we carry around with us all the time
and that our students are constantly interacting with, is that
they believe what they see, but they don't necessarily read
(27:26):
about what they could be right.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Does that make sense?
Speaker 1 (27:28):
Yes?
Speaker 4 (27:28):
And so if you're out there showing students what you
do and how you do it, they see that and
that is more can have a thousand more touches than
if they have to read it.
Speaker 1 (27:38):
So two years ago, a young man from nick Lay
was our current electric superhero the week. He was about
a six y three bouncy on the basketball floor. But
the kid was really impressive. And when he came in
on the quiet side and he brought a buddy of
his and these two along with two other guys from
Nikolayan and guys from the city that had this plan
(27:59):
and that I haven't heard from him, so I need
to reach out to him to see where this plan is.
But one was going to become a plumber. One was
going to become an electrician. One that they all had
their what they were going to do, and the idea
was in three years they were going to get their
first home and flip it. And the idea two of
these guys are like, look, by the time I'm forty,
(28:20):
I want to live in a lake. And that's and
this is the path. These were seniors in high school
that all decided you're going to do this. You'll do
this and when we get when we all get our
skill ready, right, one's an electrician, when we're going to
buy our first home and flip it together, take the profit,
buy another one, and then figure out where we go
(28:41):
from there. But these guys as seniors in high school,
this is what they talked about. They didn't talk about
how the packers are doing, or how they sat and
talked about the path on how they can get to
where they want to go. At seventeen years old, when
they're thinking like that, this is perfect for them.
Speaker 4 (28:57):
And I think what you're saying, I want the audience
to really get grasps. This is that what you saw
on those and those and those boys, it's it's not
a common thing, and I think that's what we're out
there talking about with the fundation with adults. People say,
how come you talk to just the adults as much
as you talk to the students, Because the truth of
it is is that you don't see that if I'm
(29:18):
sitting at home, your student, your your your daughter's son,
daughter is engaged in that phone, right or they're engaged there.
Speaker 3 (29:24):
So you don't get the opportunity. Sometimes they don't have
that vision.
Speaker 4 (29:27):
And you know what, that's okay, Like we focus so
much on the students that have the vision and where
they want to go. But the truth of it is
is that there's more people out there senior year that
go I have no idea, And it's scary to commit
to that dollar amount in a four year program when
you have nothing that you are actually even and you're
moltely interested in.
Speaker 1 (29:46):
You know, I talked about Bengo this week. There's a
woman I I do some business with the Ideal Logos
and Awards over on Highway hundred and Ken Whisky's.
Speaker 2 (29:54):
He's in a woman your psychiatrist. You're talking to you.
Speaker 1 (29:57):
No, No, not that one, No, that's next door, that
was next star. But her, her, her son is a
junior in high school and what he wants to do
is be a carpenter. That's what he wants. But he's
very quiet. Her her daughter is a designer and she's
very outgoing, and and she said, if I could combine
(30:18):
these two somehow, But he just he his grandfather like
he had spent him, like spend a bunch of time
in a wood shop with him and doing all this
work and what he wants to be as a carpenter.
But he does. He's a little nervous about going out
and introducing to himself and shaking hands. Where the daughter
is this, this designer, and she sees things before it happens.
(30:38):
And she just said, if the two of them could
could be, then my daughter could do all the talking
and my son could do all the work, which would
be perfect.
Speaker 2 (30:46):
A carpenter that doesn't talk a lot, he can get
a job pretty easily.
Speaker 1 (30:49):
Well, I told him, you know what I always got to.
Speaker 2 (30:51):
Hear about her packers lost for three days in a row.
Speaker 1 (30:53):
There you go. I told her about Creative Construction Wisconsin
and the girl that we had in that would wanted
to be a carpenter and now works for it. Basically,
leads up that department for you. I said, look, I
could get him a ride along. Shit, I'm telling you,
he could see first thing and what it looks.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
And a lot of us do ride alongs, and you know,
the trades probably do ride alongs. We do ride alongs,
but Aaron push us a one step further. You don't
just sit there and just watch.
Speaker 1 (31:20):
Last week, he goes, You're not coming on a ride
along to watch, You're coming to Let's go more on
the laborer side, he said, And we keep him safe,
but they do some work, you know, and then they
get a real feel for for what we're doing with
this whole thing. How has the response been in at
the school level for what you guys are trying to do.
Speaker 4 (31:41):
I well, I can't keep track of the amount of
schools that are reaching out to us at this point.
They're like, we hear you're doing something different, and we
hear you're being successful at it. And I think one
of the things that if I can kind of piggyback
on your the job shadowing thing is there are hundreds
of companies at job shadow. There is nobody out there
organizing how to get them to those those companies and
(32:02):
That's one of the things that has been our most
successful program so far is that our online job shadowing
sign up. Meaning if it doesn't matter what school you are,
what age you are, you have to be a junior
or senior or older. So if you're auto. So if
you have that student right now sitting at home after graduation,
going I don't know this, what we've our research said
is there's no place to put them in an avenue
(32:24):
after they graduate.
Speaker 3 (32:25):
None, like you have to pick a trade.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You have to.
Speaker 4 (32:28):
I mean there's but how what if you don't know?
So the job shadowing program that we put up and
it's online on our website, you can actually sign sign
up through a form there. You can connect up to
three to five to seven different trades. They're all listed
and that that list is growing underneath it, and we're
going to connect you to a half day job shadowing
program bengals on that that that list and these are
(32:49):
interactive job shadowing. There's actually guidelines for the trades person.
There's guidelines for the student or the young adult that's
attending it. But more important is it's importantly is it's
central life. How what do I do next? Everybody asked me,
what do we do next? Right, We're gonna try andsolve that.
Speaker 1 (33:07):
Well. I love that And Julie can answer all those
questions for you absolutely. Yeah. Because her title says she
can't Billy Liaison. She yeah, that's that's awesome. We're gonna
get to a break other side of the break. I
got a number of questions, or we're gonna go rapid
fire on a few of these questions. He is Jonathan Sanovak,
and I just wonder when he sleeps because the owner
(33:28):
of Source one Project Solutions, he's the founder of Step
Beyond Green. He's the president of the company that we're
talking about right now. The foundation, it's Home Building Trades Foundation.
Go to Home Building Tradesfoundation dot org to get more information.
And if you're an administrator that you know is tuning
in right now because you love the Home Improvement show
(33:48):
or you're waiting for the high school Sports show that's
coming up next, do yourself a favor Home Building Tradesfoundation
dot org and get an idea, especially for this may
first event that that you're your school can put together
a you know, an outing for kids, a field trip
so they can get an idea on what what it
looks like from the skeleton side of it and what
(34:11):
it takes to when Kyla Wood becomes a cozy home.
Speaker 2 (34:14):
I'm was saying, but you don't have to like if
you say, well, I go, I don't want to be residential.
I don't want to be commercial. I want to be
just when you go look at this stuff, you're not
committing to it, correct, You're just observing. Well, because because
we've had people comes with us, they work for us
about a year or so and he's like, you know,
I really want to be electrician, you know, and then
we know electricians.
Speaker 1 (34:30):
Well, you get to him, you know, on this May
first event, you get to meet real trade heroes, chat
and learn from the masters and building, plumbing, electrical and more. Jonathan,
this is this website's really good. Gives you a lot
of information. Again, you can go to that website Home
Building Trades Foundation dot org. This is the Creative Construction
(34:50):
of Wisconsin Home Improvement show on Fox Sports nine twenty
in your iHeart Radio app. Welcome back to the Creative
Construction of Wisconsin Home Improvement show on Fox Sports nine
your iHeartRadio app. As always, coming live from the Donovan
and Jorgensen hit any cooling studios.
Speaker 2 (35:06):
You know, I'm looking good. I got our tex from Indianapolis. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (35:09):
Well, and and look, I've been told that Jonathan shouldn't
be here. It should be Julie metzger time. Oh she
is again Career Day Schools liaison. And I love the
fact that she is willing to answer any questions. Got
her phone number right on on on the website. If
you're an administrator that wants to learn more about this organization,
(35:31):
this foundation, Home Building Trades Foundation. Jonathan can answer questions,
but let's be honest, you'd rather be Julie, right, exactly.
Speaker 2 (35:39):
It's similar to our company, right, what do you were
just talking about this off there? Who do you talk
to about stuff?
Speaker 1 (35:44):
Sam?
Speaker 2 (35:44):
Yeah? Okay?
Speaker 1 (35:45):
And hey Jonathan? When when when another company that they
were a co sponsor of this show and when they
decided not to do it anymore? Baby Shade and Black
Good guys, right, and they thought, we don't think we
want to do this some more. I call Bingo. He goes, yeah,
I'll take it all. And I go no, nope, he
goes no, No, it'll be our show. Like what then
(36:06):
we can bring the guests we want. I go, you
get the approval from Sam and Deb and then let
me know because I am not having them meeting. I
want them both to sign it and dat it because
I'm telling you they Sam and Deb for me like
I love Bingo, I love Zach, I love and I
(36:26):
love all of them, but they really kind of keep us,
keep us on the rails a little bit and everyone's
while Sam would be like, hey, don't forget to ask this.
Don't forget to say that we do at Creative Construction
because we don't talk a ton about their company on
this show. We talk about our guests and the stuff
they're doing. But every once in a while, don't forget we do,
(36:48):
you know, ride walks at the high school level, so
the kids in high school want to come and learn
what we're doing. So I got to make sure that
I do that.
Speaker 4 (36:55):
But she, uh, oh, yeah, you have to go to Sam.
I mean, because Bingo will promise you the world and
Sam will tell you how much of the world you
actually get.
Speaker 1 (37:02):
Yeah, I did that. That's great. I'm using that line
pell any anybody that's that listening. And you you're the
school administrators that I hear from all the time. When
it comes to the high school show. Julie Metzger is
the Career Day School liaison, and I'm sure that she
can answer if somebody like Wayne Jensen form Milwaukee Luther
and would like Julie to come out and talk about
(37:23):
what she could do a site check at Milwaukee Luther
to say, look, this is what you're doing in the
trades in your school. Here's how we can.
Speaker 4 (37:32):
Help correct absolutely, and and and usually Julian will will
drag me along, I say, because she thinks she needs
to support. By the truth of it is, she can
run the whole organization. And I love her to death
for that, but yeah, don't. It's it's one of those
things where sometimes even if you can't get to this
year's career Day, like we start this as soon as
career Day is done May first, the next month, we
have to go and talk to administrators of school. Is
(37:53):
because we know how hard it is to get bussing.
Speaker 3 (37:55):
We know a translation. So if that's a hold back, if.
Speaker 4 (37:57):
You actually have some sort of reason you do what
you can go talk to Julie or myself or somebody
at the foundation, because we have ways of subsidizing that bus,
We have ways of getting students out of it out
of school that are excused afferences, like, there are ways
around it that we've actually worked with State of physials on.
Speaker 3 (38:13):
So if you say, well, I can't take.
Speaker 4 (38:14):
My student out that day because they're gonna lose, they're
gonna it is a excuse absence. We have the paper
the paperwork. There is no excuse for you not to
attend the city.
Speaker 1 (38:22):
Is there sponsorship opportunities for companies that because you said, look,
we have ways to offset the costs and I would
assume that's that's all sponsorship.
Speaker 4 (38:30):
So without the dollars of the people who's sponsored, we
couldn't make those offsets possible. So if you are, if
you have an opportunity, you can't be at the event,
but can help in any way offset the cost this event,
that would be great.
Speaker 1 (38:42):
Beautiful, Hey bingo, when when we talk about, you know,
the the involvement of companies in something like this, If
you're a company that's looking to get involved and you're
you're involved in everything, what would you tell a company
that hasn't put their toe on the water that why
being part of the Home Building Trades Foundation is important.
Speaker 2 (39:03):
Just start, take the first step, make the call, Just
get started. Don't say we're gonna work on this, We're
gonna we're gonna put this on our budget. Just get started,
because uh, if you're looking for workers, I mean you
should been doing this a long time ago. I mean
we're okay, there's all this commercial going on, there's remodeling
going on, you know, the nahab is all talks. We're
short three million homes. I mean, there's not enough workers
(39:23):
to do all the work there is. It isn't like
you're gonna run out. Uh, it isn't like you're gonna
be working for a company forever. I mean, you can
start working for a company in seven eight years. You
can start your own business and go in there and
you know the American dream. I mean you can. It's
it's a career. They're not. This isn't a summer job.
This is a career that they're teaching.
Speaker 1 (39:39):
You. Go ahead.
Speaker 4 (39:40):
Jonathans to kind of piggyback on that, I think it's
like why why be be part of this? And I
think when I when when we interviewed the trades during
this this this two year period, the biggest thing that
they says they don't have the time to train someone.
They won't hire and if you think about that right,
because because as you're an hourly, you're based on an
hourly scenario. I only get paid X y z to
frame a house. It's not like as an endless supply
(40:01):
of money. So they're worried that they're bringing young adults in.
They're lasting one week and they're leaving, and that's a
lot of energy and time to do them. So that's
why the job shaowing program. If you want to start,
sign up as a trades person through job shotting program,
because you get.
Speaker 1 (40:16):
Them for four hours.
Speaker 3 (40:17):
It's a pre interview.
Speaker 4 (40:18):
Folks think about it like, here's the time to have
one student per month come through your job site and
interview them on the fly, get to know them a
bit for four hours, and then they might one out
of ten of those might come back and ask for
a job.
Speaker 3 (40:34):
Well, you've already done in this.
Speaker 4 (40:35):
You know that they're a good worker, they're hard at
I mean, this is the easiest way to commit because
you don't have to think. We supply the paperwork, what
you're supposed to do, how you're supposed to do, We
take care of the insurances, We make sure they get
there and get home. I mean, at this point, there's
no reason why someone why should you help out the
home Eily Transplornations because it's easy.
Speaker 1 (40:51):
Right, and you guys are doing really good work with this.
And what I like is you took your time with
this company and you didn't say, okay, now we're a
foundation and who knows what's going to happen after that.
You have taken all of this into consideration. And it's
really when you say, look, it's easy. I know because
(41:12):
I coach at the high school level. They like easy
sometimes because not a lot of what they do comes down.
You don't have a Julie, a Julie Metzger that's there
to answer these questions. Now she's got a full time job,
she's got another job, but I can tell you that
she's really busy with this foundation.
Speaker 3 (41:29):
Absolutely, Julie.
Speaker 4 (41:30):
Julia spends day and day and night making sure this
career day event is a success, not for the not
for the trades, but for the students.
Speaker 1 (41:38):
We should have let Julie know that every time we
said our name she owed us a dollar because we'd
be we'd be having lunch today. I miss Julie, you know,
next time we should probably have her come in studio
as well when we're talking about this, because I would
like to get her some of the questions she gets
as the liaison between the schools. I would like to
(42:00):
be able to have her answer the questions because I've
got to believe that some of the questions, like you
had said, look we can't give them a day off,
well you can. And look it's we're okay. We got
the paperwork. All of the questions she gets from some
of the administrators, we can answer it all at one
one felt swooping. And I think that having her in
next time we talk about the foundation, if she's willing
(42:22):
to come.
Speaker 3 (42:22):
In, Oh, I can make sure she's willing.
Speaker 1 (42:25):
We're not going to say your name as many times
as we said you really's name. That that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (42:29):
But I think what she's would like you know that
guy I work out with?
Speaker 1 (42:32):
Yeah, that that that that other guy that I bring
to some of the school opportunities. I think is really important. Again,
if you go to their website, it's Home Building Tradesfoundation
dot org. If you're an administrator, if you're if you're
a parent of a kid who's not quite sure what
they're going to do when they graduate, or they have
graduated and they're still trying to figure out what their career,
(42:54):
not a job, what their career is. You go to
Home Building Tradesfoundation dot org and take a look at
some of the things that they're offering for your your
your kid, if you're a parent, a grandparent like me.
Who look, I've got a freshman in high school. I
don't know, you know, he's there's some things that he's
thinking about doing, I think when he's done with high school.
(43:14):
But right now, he's just trying to figure out how
to get more shots up in the gym. And I
always ask him, any pretty girl say hiie, And now
not today, Papa. I go, come on, are you sure
I'm telling you no pretty girls said hi to me?
Who knows if the trades is something that he's.
Speaker 2 (43:30):
I'm going to do this story about your kid. I
was asking your kid, you know, you can cock that yourself,
you know, And I was like, I don't want to
do it. He says, your dad didn't even trying to
do that. He goes, no, but he's taught me how
to dribble in my left hand.
Speaker 1 (43:40):
But yeh, that's it. That's all I take. I take that,
and he played four years of college basketball, so I
did okay with that, but being able to cock up
on the roof and by the chimney, No, we got
to Creative Construction Wisconsin came out. Hey, Jonathan, thank you
so much really quickly Step Beyond Green. You guys doing
great still.
Speaker 4 (44:00):
Yeah, we're going to be at the Home and Garden
Show coming up in another month with the largest display
at the Home and Garden Show, so please come come
out and learn about how to make your home healthier.
Speaker 1 (44:08):
Man, that's awesome. He is Jonathan Snovak again. He is
the founder of Step Beyond Green. He's the owner of
Source one Project Solutions, and he is the president of
Home Building Trades Foundation. Go to Home Building Home Building
Trades Foundation dot org. I'm sure he's got coffee and
what he's drinking over there, that is for sure. It's
(44:30):
good to see you.
Speaker 3 (44:30):
It was great to be on the showy.
Speaker 1 (44:32):
Thank you. Yeah, thank you so much. Bengo. It's good
to see you. Any any races you're going to this
week or.
Speaker 2 (44:37):
Well, Atlanta, but I'm not going to it.
Speaker 1 (44:39):
When's the next one, Bristol?
Speaker 2 (44:42):
My next one will probably be in you five hundred.
Speaker 1 (44:44):
Okay, Yeah, I'm going to Bristol. Not supposed to lie
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