Mornings with Thom Brennaman 10/22/2025

Senator Rand Paul talks to Thom about the shutdown, the budget and much more. Also Pastor Chad with Stained Glass, Plain Glass.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Alrighty, we say good morning to Gina Servetti from the
Bloomberg newsroom in New York City. Google has a new
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Yeah that's right, Tom. It's called chat GPT Atlas, and
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Tom all right, then, Gina, the futures this morning.

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Speaker 3 (01:33):
Alright, eight ten on the Big One, seven hundred WLW.
Were a few minutes away from our chat with Senator
rand Paul from Washington, DC, and he is standing.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
By right now. Senator, good morning, hope you're well today.

Speaker 5 (01:49):
Good morning, Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Absolutely always like having you here. Hey.

Speaker 3 (01:53):
First of all, look, I don't want to get into
you know, are your feelings hurt, whatever the case might be,
But I do want to ask you about not being
invited to the lunch yesterday with other senators at the
White House with President Trump. I mean, it seems to
me that you can have disagreements inside of a party.
It's one thing to disagree with the other party, but

(02:15):
you can have disagreements inside your own party yet still
let all the voices be heard. I thought that was
a mistake on his part. I assume maybe you feel
the same way or no.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
Well, I try not to take it too seriously. There
are you know, people can be petty here and there,
and you know, I could care less whether I'm invited
in the lunch or not. But what I do think
is that I'm on their mind. And that's a good
thing because the things that I represent are basically balancing
the budget, reducing spending, making government small and constitutional. And

(02:49):
I stick to my guns on that. So when Republicans
propose a spending bill, it'll be two trillion in debt,
which is going on right now, I oppose it. Democrats
have proposed a spending bill three trillion in debt. I
post that also. But there needs to be some part
of the Republican Party that is still fiscally conservative, consistent,
and sticks to its principles. And so the thing is

(03:10):
is I am on their mind. And the president, you know,
may have thought it was kind of funny that I
wasn't invited, But the other thing is is he's having
to think about me. And when we posted that Thomas
Massey and I were having lunch instead, we had two
million people view that posting. So there is a constituency
still out there for fiscal conservatism, and I'm going to

(03:33):
continue to try to represent that.

Speaker 3 (03:34):
Okay, but I got to ask you, knowing what you
just said that the Democrat spending would be three million.
The Republicans, I think you said two million. Why did
you vote again, I'm sorry, why did you vote against
just a clean CR on this deal?

Speaker 5 (03:51):
The clean CR are the Biden spending levels basically, so
last December, the CR levels continuing resolution spending levels were
set and these were the Biden levels. And you remember
Republicans complaining, I evan in the election about Biden nomics,
Biden inflation, Biden spending. Most Conservatives voted against these spending

(04:11):
levels last December. Come March, Republicans were in charge. Trump
was in the White House. Then the Republicans, most of
them other than me, flipped and voted for it. The
interesting thing now is the Biden spending levels are now
the Republican CR. All the Democrats voted for this in
December of twenty four also, but now that flipped. So
it's kind of only in Washington. Can you imagine that

(04:34):
all the Republicans now support other than me, support the
Biden spending levels, and all the Democrats are opposed to
the Biden spending levels. So it's a crazy topsy turvy world.
But there has to be someone who's consistent in all
of this mess. So I voted against the Republican plan
because they're the Biden spending levels and it will lead
to a two trillion dollar deficit this year and that's

(04:55):
just untenable.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
Well, with that in mind, though, with the CR and look,
you've forgotten more of this stuff than I'll ever know.
But wouldn't a c R, though, Senator Rand Paul, wouldn't
at least give you the chance to negotiate through some
of this stuff.

Speaker 5 (05:13):
Well, now is the time to negotiate. And the thing
is is I put forward a proposal. They voted on
my proposal two weeks ago, not because they wanted to,
but because I forced them to, because it's a privileged
vot vehicle, because neither party put forward a budget. So
I put forward mind the Penny plan about three weeks ago,
and we did get a vote, and we got about
thirty six Republicans, so that's not bad. We've got no Democrats,

(05:36):
but it illustrates that there is a solution. My Penny
plan would balance the budget over about a five year period.
That's what we need to be doing, and that's what
I'm going to continue to be for. And I just
don't feel like, you know, taking a backstop of two
trillion dollars in new debt next year. I mean, the
interest payment now alone is a trillion dollars, and I

(05:57):
think it's untenable. And I think our country is at
risk because of this. So I don't treat this lightly.
I don't treat this as thoh, you know, I'm going
to be petulant vote against both. I treat this as
sort of life and death for the nation, that we
just cannot keep adding two trillion dollars every year in debt.

Speaker 3 (06:14):
Is there any resolution in sight for this government shut down?

Speaker 5 (06:20):
I think it's going to eventually end, either this week
or next. And here's the reasoning. The Democrats. These are
Democrats spending levels, These are the Biden spending levels. Now
called the Republicans z are They all voted for it
last year in December, They're eventually all going to vote
for it this time. What happened is their base, their
left wing base, the socialist base of the Democrat Party,

(06:42):
decided they wanted more. They didn't want just the Biden
spending levels. They also wanted these add on Obamacare subsidies.
It's important that your listeners know what the Democrats are
asking for. The add on Obamacare subsidies give one thousand
dollars to somebody who makes two hundred and twenty five
thousand dollars. So, if you make two hundred twenty five
thousand dollars a year, the Obamacare subsease, the add on

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subsease give you one thousand dollars a year. If you
make one hundred and seventy thousand dollars a year, the
Obamacare add on gives you thirty six hundred dollars a year.
So this is insane. We're two trillion dollars short, and
I think you're pretty well off if you make one
hundred and seventy thousand. If you make two hundred and
twenty five thousand dollars, you shouldn't get any government money.
So I really think we're gonna end up winning this

(07:25):
argument because giving rich people money for health insurance that
passes on to billion dollar you know, multi billion dollar
insurance companies. The only people that have gotten rich off
you know, the rich get richer and the insurance companies
get rich. Yeah, so it's a terrible situation. I think
the Democrats will eventually fold.

Speaker 3 (07:43):
On this another topic, I'm kind of curious. Bear with
me for a second. Why try at least to draw
this sort of comparison.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
You have come.

Speaker 3 (07:52):
Out, you have come out sternly against some of these bombings,
for lack of a better term, of some of these
boats that are blowing getting blown up by our military
that are trying to bring drugs into the country.

Speaker 1 (08:10):
You know, I was thinking about this last night.

Speaker 3 (08:12):
Tell me if I'm just completely mad about this, right,
I look at this kind of like, Okay, what if
somebody is trying to bring something deadly into my house
and to hurt my family. I don't care what their
rights are if they come in to try to bring
something that would be deadly to my family, I'm going
to do everything I can to protect my family from

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being hurt by whatever it is they're bringing in. What
is the difference between that and again, if you tell
me I'm crazy, I get it. What's the difference between
that and these boats bringing drugs into our country that
we know are going to kill people in this country.
Why are we worried about their rights?

Speaker 5 (08:56):
The main difference is this, when someone comes into your
house or tries to break into your house, they're not
alleged to be doing it. You actually see them when
you shoot them.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
They come in the door.

Speaker 5 (09:04):
Trying to kill you. So the difference is that these
boats is there's a word called alleged. You don't know
who these people are. We don't know their name, we
don't have any evidence. They're presented no evidence even have drugs.
They're not all Venezuelan, and some of them are Colombian,
some are Ecuadorian. Think about this. We bombed a boat
the other day, killed a bunch of them, found two
of them swinging in the water. Did we pick up

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the debris and put it into a court case against
them for drugs now that we found them floating in
the water. None, We just send them back to Columbian Ecuador.
Doesn't it seem bizarre if they really are in the
drug trade, that we wouldn't prosecute the very people that
we blow up with these missiles. So the thing is
there is a difference in our country. So if someone
breaks into your house, you have the right to shoot them.

(09:47):
But if someone you know committed an assault and you
think that they live across you know, three streets over,
you can't go over there and just shoot them or
blow their house up. That's a difference. I mean, so
if you're at sea, if the coast guard is at
sea and they say to a boat, halt stop, we're
going to search you for contraband or for drugs. If

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they don't they run away, the coastguard has the right
to pursue them, has the right to shoot at them
to disable them, and if they fire deadly shots of
the coast guard, the coastguard can sink them. This has
been the rules of engagement for probably a couple of
one hundred years. The coastguard can use deadly force, but
there's an escalation of the rules on this. The reasoning

(10:30):
is this, when the Coastguard finally boards the ships off
of Miami, twenty five percent of those suspective having drugs
have no drugs on board. So if we're wrong twenty
five percent of the time, would it be okay to
blow people up? But these are human beings, for goodness, ekes.
I mean, what if it's you know, an eighteen year
old fisherman who they've kidnapped his sister and that he's

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being made to do this or his sister's going to
be raped or gild. SOA's a lot of if sam's
or butts about this should be explored. And none of
these drugs are at all likelihood even coming to America.
This is an outboard vote two thousand miles away. These drugs,
if there are drugs, because it's still alleged, are going
to Trinidad and Tobago. This is a drug trade to

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the Lower Antilles, the lesser Antillies. These boats have no means.
It would take twenty tanks of gas. You'd have to
stop and fill up twenty times on an outboard motor
to get all the way the United States from there.
So they're not even presenting evidence of who the people are,
whether they have drugs. But they're also not presenting evidence
of these boats two thousand miles away have any intention

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of coming to America.

Speaker 3 (11:37):
Hey, last thing I want to ask you about, and
this is way off topic here, but you know, depending
on what happens here in the next couple of weeks,
there is a chance that the largest city in America
is going to basically vote in certainly a socialist, if
not an outright communist to be the mayor of New

(11:57):
York City. In your wild is streams, could you have
ever imagined that might happen in this country?

Speaker 5 (12:05):
No, and it's hard to believe it is, and it
does happen. There's been a huge exodus from New York
and particularly New York City. A lot of the means
in capital, you know, it was the greatest financial city
in the world, have been leaving for years. But I
think there'll be a mass eccidus and what you'll be
left with is no financial engine and just a poverty

(12:25):
and what comes from socialism. So no, it's a disaster
that's unfolding in slow motion hopefully that people will see.
But you know, there's not a whole lot of choices.
I mean, you can vote for the corrupt Cuomo or
mom Domi, but there also is another choice. I'd vote
frankly for the Republican. I think Curtis Lee what would
bring law in order to the place and would be great.

(12:46):
He's just not polling high enough because there's not enough
Republicans right now. But he's the best choice, all right.

Speaker 1 (12:52):
Senator Rand Paul.

Speaker 3 (12:53):
Can't thank you enough for your time as always, and
we'll look forward to catching up with you again sometime soon.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Thanks you all right, Senator Ram.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Paul from the Commonwealth of Kentucky's becoming a semi.

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Regular on this show.

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Is God a capitalist?

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Speaker 1 (16:11):
Alright eight forty, Good morning to you.

Speaker 3 (16:13):
Welcome to the morning show here on seven hundred WLW.
Enormously popular this segment. We do it every Wednesday. It's
called plain Glass Stained Glass. Now, look, you don't have
to be a believer to enjoy this segment. When we
get together with Pastor Chadhoven from the Horizon Community Church

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right there in Newtown, Ohio along the banks of the
Little Miami River. Pastor Chad, good morning, a few days
off to a good start, sir.

Speaker 1 (16:43):
Good morning.

Speaker 5 (16:43):
It sure is great to be with you.

Speaker 1 (16:44):
Thank you very much. All right.

Speaker 3 (16:46):
Look, you wrote a book a number of years ago,
and we started to talk about it for the first
time last week called God and Nomics, and that is
spelled g Odnomics. Don't make s the money side by
the way, and you can go to godanomics dot com
to check it out, the book that you wrote, and

(17:07):
basically it's a fun, engaging, factfill journey into God's wisdom
on work and money. But as a lot of the
people who have reviewed this book have said said, look,
it brings in so many whether you are of the
convinced or unconvinced about God's wisdom on economics, you can,

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and we can, as both individuals, as companies and nations,
learn more about economics and specifically godenomics I asked you
last week for those who missed it, do you believe
God is a capitalist?

Speaker 7 (17:45):
Well, so the main idea of god nomics, this capitalism
is a good idea. It's not just a good idea,
it's God's idea. And you know, I got to be
careful of the isms. You know, all the isms, Marxisms, socialism,
and communism, and they have one thing in common and
contrast capitalism, and that is they're trying to abolish private property.
And so when I defied godonomics, I say, what starts

(18:05):
with property rights?

Speaker 5 (18:06):
Right?

Speaker 7 (18:06):
Because we're more responsible with our stuff. You can't give
away stuff that's not yours. If you're going to be generous,
you have to own stuff to give it away. And
the Bible affirms that twenty percent of ten Commandments is
about property rights. You'll steal people's stuff. They'll be jealous
of people's stuff. As a woman in Proverbs a real
successful businesswoman, so she produces, she considers a field to
make sure it's going to profit. She discerns that the

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merchandise is good because in a free enterprise system, it
both incentivizes you you want to profit, but the other
person has to freely engage in making that purchase, so
they have to say, hey, the price and quality is
right for me. So it's a great way in which
both incentives can both be balanced. I'm incentivized to profit,
but I have to put your needs ahead of my own,

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so you'll freely choose it. And that's why e'ven in
that passage and Proverbs it says, you know, she profits,
It celebrates that. So that's the idea of those isms
can be dangerous because you know that Black Book of
Communism says one hundred and fifty million people were killed
in the name of communism. And communism always comes to
you sounding like Jimmy Stewart from the One.

Speaker 1 (19:09):
Of the Wife.

Speaker 7 (19:10):
You want the moon burial, moonbeams come out of your eyeball.
It always ends with Monty Python, you know, bring out
your dead, bring out your dad. I mean, it's always
sounds good at the front end, but it's never been
good on the back end. And we tried that, Actually
we tried that when the Pilgrims first came over. Governor
Bradford wrote in his journal, which I addressed in the
first chapter, what would God say to John Adams? And

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he actually said, we tried it. We as pilgrims, fundamental
pilgrims tried socialism. We're all going to work for the
common good, and there'd be lazy people who weren't working.
The people who worked harder wouldn't be incentivized. And they're like,
come on, guys, have us died off? We got to
work harder for the common good, which is a nice ideal.
And he says, ultimately, we the fundamental pilgrims, could make

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socialism work. And I was like, if the pilgrims can't
make it work, what chance do we have. The switched
over to a model where is everyone working for the
communal property. Each person got their own farm, they worked
their own farm, They had a sense of responsibility, a
sense of productivity. Is that's a generosity. So we've tried
this before, and ultimately free enterprise is a way in
which incentivize the responsibility, productivity, and ultimately generosity for each

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one of us.

Speaker 3 (20:20):
You know, you also bring in and for those that
have not heard any of your services before, you bring
in incredible humor to the whole thing. And you've done
the same thing in this book, not just a lot
of facts and figures which there are a lot of
those in there, and you know references to Steve Martin
and Monty Python. How do you make a reference? Where

(20:41):
are you tying in here? Let's start with Elmer fud.

Speaker 7 (20:47):
Well, Yeah, we all have habits, and as habits, we
say to ourselves, I'm going to change this. I'm want
to do something different, Like why why didn't I change it?
Why do I keep overspending or why do I keep overhoarding?
Why do I keep not being able to do the
things I want to do? So I'll make a little
Elmer fudd and money python here. So one of the
problems is underneath our habit is a wabbit and we

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all have spam in our lives. We're really addicted to
spun a lot status, performance, appearance, and money. That's spam.
If you're addicted to status, you're going to spend more
than you probably should, because it's all about the status.
If you're addicted to performance, you're going to find yourself
making compromises in other areas if it makes you look good,

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your appearance, and then money. If those things become not
just a thing in your life but an ultimate thing
in your life, you'll be amazed at how the thing
that promises liberty ends up bringing you slavery. So Elmer Fudd,
of course we all know Elmer Fudd as well. Hunting
rabbits must be bad, way very quiet.

Speaker 5 (21:46):
Well hunting rabbits.

Speaker 7 (21:48):
Underneath every habit in your life is a wabbit, and
you got to kill the wabbits.

Speaker 5 (21:52):
Kill the rabbits.

Speaker 7 (21:54):
Those wabbits are those things in your life that you're like, Oh,
my goodness, as long as status is king in my life,
as long as other people's approval is king in my life,
I'm going to find myself doing things and compromising things
I shouldn't. So the first thing you got to do
is say, who's the wabbit or who's the wabbit in
my life?

Speaker 5 (22:14):
I need to kill.

Speaker 7 (22:15):
I need to subordinate a good thing like status, a
good thing like approval, a good thing like you know,
even my own family, to something greater, a greater a God,
a greater thing that can bring you freedom. And it's
amazing how when you put God first in your life,
those other important things they settle in subordinated to that thing,

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and you actually find more liberty. I can use my
money without my money using men. I can enjoy my
money without my money driving me. And so really the
hunt for the wabbit is to find out what's that
ultimate thing in the center of your life. It's under
the service, right Elmer Fudd's got to go under the
ground to go find that wabbit. And often if you

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don't go under the service and figure out, like what's
the scene that keeps driving these decisions I'm making, You're
never gonna get to the heart of it. You'll keep
making promises, you'll double down on the promises, which you've
got to find the wabbits beneath your habits.

Speaker 3 (23:09):
You know, you talk about the status part, and I
think all of us see so much of that if
we're not guilty ourselves from time to time right looking
in the mirror. And it's the old adage about keeping
up with the Joneses. I mean, you can, you can
run yourself and your family, and you talked about the
other three as well here, But when you think about status,

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there are so many people that are trying to, as
I said, keep up with the jones and man, it
can lead to absolute financial devastation without a doubt.

Speaker 7 (23:42):
And you know, everyone else's wabbit looks silly, but not yours.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
That's right, that's right.

Speaker 7 (23:47):
I can't believe they would do that like mine would
be approval. You'll be happy with me. I've driven myself
crazy trying to make everybody happy. It's a it's total
ridiculous rabbits, but it's one of my rabbits. And one
of mine is productivity. And man, there's time to I
don't feel productive. And I saw that my grandfather. I
saw that my father both of the genius of it. Man,

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we get a lot done. But the downside is when
Grandpa had a stroke, and when Grandpa went to that
final season of life and I took care of him
in his bedside, he fell into a deep depression. Because
he loved helping people, which is an awesome thing. He
loved being productive, but when he couldn't be, who am
I if that doesn't happen. My dad was in town
last week getting some surgery done for cancer. Very successful

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and where we'll celebrate that. But I could just see
how frustrated he was during the recovery that he can't
be productive. It's always a reminder of me. When you
look at your family of origin, you say, hey, what
are the great things my family passed on to me?
How do I bring that along with me, but also
what parts can I leave behind? I want productivity to
be of value, but not my ultimate value. You know,
I want to your point performance and status. Who doesn't

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want performance and status? But you don't want to be
king in your life. You don't want to be the
ultimate definition of your value and identity.

Speaker 3 (25:00):
That's interesting, and there's nothing wrong with spending a lot
of money at your alma mater, for example.

Speaker 1 (25:04):
We touched on this a little bit last week.

Speaker 3 (25:06):
Where you know, you give a bunch of money to
a school they name a building after you, right, I mean,
it's a great thing, and it's something it's a legacy thing.
You are helping a lot of people that are going
to that school in some form or fashion, whether you're building,
you know, something as large as a sports arena or
something as small as maybe putting in a media center
at the local high school. Right, all those things are unbelievable.

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But at the end of the day, you know, I
remember Vincecully, the former Dodger announcer, legendary Hall of Famer,
and he wasn't the guy that came up with this line,
but it's so true. At the end of the day,
you're talking about your dad and can't you. But when
you're talking about end of life, right the old saying
about no one's ever met somebody that when they're on

(25:48):
their dying bed, they say, gee, whiz man, I wish
I would have worked more, right, or I wish I
would have gave more to not necessarily something that you
would look at as quote unquote share. You'll be there
on your die bed and you'll be saying to yourself, man,
the best thing I ever did was help paying for
that kid to go to college or that to fill

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in the blank.

Speaker 7 (26:12):
Right, Well, you don't have to be religious to have
a sense of what really matters. When you get kind
of away from.

Speaker 5 (26:17):
Your rabbits or see other people's rabbits, you.

Speaker 7 (26:19):
Begin to go, you know what. I begin to realize
human beings at some level, I realize are eternal, they
have value, that they're eternally valuable. And I wish I'd
spent more time investing my time, investing my energy, investing
my money in people. And I say, on your deathbed
often it's who do you want to be gathered around with?
You know, your stockbrokers, do we gather out your investors?

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I'm sure, there's great friendship there. You want to be
around your family and friends, people you care about who
love you and you love them. You're like, this is
what matters. People matter, People have eternal valuable In.

Speaker 5 (26:53):
Fact, C. S.

Speaker 7 (26:54):
Lewis and his book Mere Christianity likens this to socialism.
He says Christians believe that individuals are eternally valuable. Therefore
they're far more valuable than the state, meaning the state,
like whether it's a government or an empire or a dynasty.
At the very best, maybe a Chinese a thousand years. Well,
a government, a state the lasts one thousand years compared

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to an individual, which is eternal, the state is incomparably
less important than the individual. So you want the state
to actually protect the rights of the individual because that's
what's valuable the macro level and at the personal level.
You say to yourself, well, if I was on my
deskbed or I was thinking about what said in my funeral,

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I wouldn't want people to talk about what. Yeah, I
do want to be productive, I want to be important things.
I want to give to things that outlive me. But
I also want to know that the people around me
knew I love them. The people around me knew I
invested in them. And even when you're giving to the
poor generically, you're giving the individuals who are able to
then have a better life. So we talked the last week,
learned how to fish. I'm trying to invest in people

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who invest in people, and that's the way to invest
your life, and that's where real joy comes from. You
align your priorities to what you know are true values.
You're investing in eternal things, not just temporal things.

Speaker 5 (28:12):
And I'm not against.

Speaker 7 (28:13):
Temporal things once that's everything's temporal.

Speaker 5 (28:15):
Accept human beings.

Speaker 7 (28:17):
Nothing wrong with enjoying stuff. And there's a guy in
the Book of Acts who gives very, very generously. His
name's Barnabas. In fact, he's so generous to so many
people they nickname him the Son of Encouragement. I always say,
what a great nickname. What if I was known for
being somebody who I walk into a room, I encourage people.
I use my money to encourage people to do great things.

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I want to be someone not known for I stomped
on people in the way up, or look how much
they hoarded for themselves. Man, Look how they encourage other
people to be their very best. That's what goadonomics is about.
Against productivity, it's about liberty. It's also generosity. It's about
living an other centered life that leaves incredible legacy to you,
to the people around you, to your community, to your country.

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You want to know that your life is mattering when
you're combining this beautiful mix of eternal things fused into
temple things.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
Can't tell you.

Speaker 3 (29:10):
How many people stop me whether I'm at the grocery store,
I'm at udf, F'm wherever, and they just tell me
how much they enjoy this segment. And Pastor Chad, we
thank you for it as always, and we'll catch up
with you again next week.

Speaker 1 (29:22):
Hope you have a great rest of your day and
a great weekend, sir.

Speaker 7 (29:25):
Great people antioned in the book or the DVD series
and get at gudonomys dot com otherwise we'll see you
next week.

Speaker 3 (29:30):
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oh nomics, not with it money.

Speaker 1 (29:36):
Sorry, that's right, okay, all right, all.

Speaker 3 (29:39):
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Speaker 1 (29:58):
Oh but we'll keep it up. That'd be great, all right?
What's opping out there?

Speaker 6 (30:03):
Godfather from the UC Health Traffic Center Mammograms Save Lives
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accident near northbound seventy five, I should say just above

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two seventy five is over on the right shoulder. Southbound
is getting better. That's still running slow in and out
of Lackland. The earlier accident's clear. They're working westbound on
the Reagan Highway at seventy five with a wreck and
southbound seventy one at Dana right hand side. That's keeping
traffic slow. From Red Bank Chuck Ingram News Radio seven
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Speaker 3 (30:47):
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Speaker 1 (30:51):
It's a beautiful morning out there.

Speaker 3 (30:52):
It's going to be a beautiful day out there up
to fifty seven degrees. Clear skys tonight, a little breezy,
low down nine tomorrow, sunshine, cool air sticking around high
at fifty eight. Tomorrow night, we're gonna drop down to
thirty five. And then Friday, Saturday, and Sunday we're looking
at sunshine temperatures in the low sixties, but are lows

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at night could get down to freezing level. Frost expected
in the morning Friday, Saturday, maybe even Sunday.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Sloaney coming up next.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
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