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November 5, 2025 32 mins
Thom talks to our friends at the Cincinnati Museum Center about their newest exhibit, Auschwitz, not long ago. Not far away. Also, Pastor Chad Hovind talks about dealing with stress.

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Speaker 3 (02:00):
It is eight ten. I was talking about it earlier.

Speaker 4 (02:03):
There's a brand new exhibit that is passing through the
Cincinnati Museum Center and it is called Auschwitz Not Long Ago,
Not Far Away, featuring five hundred original artifacts from Auschwitz,
the largest collection outside of Europe and kind enough to
take the time to join us. Elizabeth pieris my old
dear friend, president and CEO of the Cincinnati Museum Center.

(02:26):
She's a big hitter, big hitter, love it now, she's
changed through the years. And Jackie Kenjado, who is the
CEO of the Nancy and David Wolf Holocaust and Humanities
Center inside of the Museum Center. Ladies, thank you for
coming in. We were talking off the air a second ago.
Either one of you take this question the further and

(02:49):
further we get. Thus the name not long Ago, not
far Away. I don't know what they're teaching now in
school about the Second World War, about the Holocaust, and
maybe they're doing a brilliant job.

Speaker 3 (03:01):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
I know there the more time goes by, it seems
like we're not remembering that the way we should.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Is that fair?

Speaker 6 (03:11):
I think it's yeah.

Speaker 7 (03:12):
So this is the question, and this is the reason
for the name of the exhibition, not long Ago, not
far Away, because the further this gets into the past,
the harder it is, particularly for young people to conceptualize
that this is still part of our world and part
of our in so many ways, yep.

Speaker 6 (03:27):
And we draw those connections in a number of ways.

Speaker 7 (03:29):
So you know, first of all, we have people in
our community, Cincinnatians, our neighbors, are friends, people who work
in our businesses who survived this, who are still alive
to tell the story today. And we have been able
to weave those stories into this exhibition. When you come
down to Union Terminal to see it, so you'll see
it really is not so long ago. There are still

(03:50):
people who are with us who are talking about what
happened to them as children and as young people as
part of this history. The other part that's really I
think important is it was not long ago, not far
away in terms of how could you know? It sort
of asked the question, how could a civilization, not so
unlike our own, with educated people in a contemporary context,

(04:11):
build as architects this sort of machine of mass murder
and participate in it on a societal scale.

Speaker 6 (04:19):
And so that's a question we should ask ourselves.

Speaker 7 (04:22):
You know, at any given moment, any of us are
susceptible to the best and the worst of humanity and
to being kind of pulled in any different direction. So
that's a phenomenon we all wrestle with every day, right
the choices we make, and whether we choose to fall
victim to our worst nature or rise to our best nature.

Speaker 4 (04:40):
More than one point one million people were executed. I mean,
whether they were starved or whether they were put into
a gas chamber, executed as a word. End of story, Elizabeth. Now,
this particular traveling us over five hundred artifacts internationally, but

(05:02):
two local artifacts have also been added to this Cincinnati stuff.
You shared with something with me. I had no idea
about some of the people when they left Poland, left
Germany and came to the United States. They came through here, Yeah,
through Union Terminal.

Speaker 1 (05:16):
So when we talk about not long ago, not far away,
not far away, is right here in Cincinnati at Union Terminal.

Speaker 6 (05:22):
We talk about this a lot. It gives us all
the chills.

Speaker 1 (05:24):
Like you know, Werner Coppel, who is one of the
stories that's featured in the exhibition, arrived in Cincinnati with
a suitcase, a wife and a baby, and that suitcase,
which is part of Jackie's collection at the Holocaust and
Humanity Center, is woven into the exhibit. So we worked
very closely with the international exhibition producers to say, we
have incredible stories of survivors in Cincinnati. We want to

(05:46):
weave those throughout the exhibition, and in particular, there's a
special section of the exhibit that is Cincinnati a New
Beginning that allows us to lift up not only Werner's story,
but several others, and it will give you the dimensions
of these people who we have lived with in our lives,
in our community. They took their first steps through Union
Terminal to start.

Speaker 6 (06:07):
Their new lives.

Speaker 3 (06:09):
That is unbelievable.

Speaker 4 (06:12):
Let me follow up one thing with you there. I
think you guys are suggesting to at least give yourself
a couple of hours to come down and see the exhibit. Right,
So one of some of the things that they're going
to see, or that they might expect or if they
have children, is it something that they ought to be
a little leery about in that regard.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
So the recommendation is seventh grade forward is the right
timing for students to come through the exhibition itself. If
you really want to drink it in, it's probably a
two and a half to three hour experience.

Speaker 6 (06:43):
We give you an audio guide so you can.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Listen to narration and videos and you can do that
at your own pace, So it just kind of depends
on how much you want to spend there.

Speaker 6 (06:53):
It's a lot of information.

Speaker 1 (06:55):
One of the key things that Jackie and I have
worked on is we really want you not only to
see the exaus itself, but we want you to understand
that the Nancy and David Wolf Holocaust and Humanity Center
is a resource in Union Terminal all the time, and
so you can have a discounted ticket to come back
and see the local stories in much greater depth because
what Jackie and her team have done at that museum

(07:16):
have created not just Auschwitz survivor stories, but all the
Holocaust survivors stories, and they've added the upstander component to it,
which is about character, strength and understanding, resilience and courage
and what does that do for us going forward? So
there are ways to see the exhibit here now and
do it before the holidays, or do it as a

(07:36):
family experience during the holidays, right, Like incredible robust family
discussions that should come from this experience, like talk about
family history with World War Two, if your mom or
dad are still alive and you're able to have a
conversation about how did that, Yeah, where did that fit
into your life. That's a really robust experience, and just
think about rights Veterans' Day coming up, you.

Speaker 6 (07:58):
Know, Thanksgiving.

Speaker 7 (07:59):
Yeah, gratitude, I mean, there is no better way to
feel a deep sense of gratitude than it comes through
this exhibition.

Speaker 6 (08:05):
No better way, Yeah, no better way.

Speaker 1 (08:08):
So there's a lot to do, but you can think
about how you want to plan your schedule.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
You and I were talking off the air, we were
talking off the year and Jackie about you guys started
the Holocaust and Humanity Center, I think you said back
in two thousand and nineteen. This Auschwitz exhibit is very
specific obviously to what exactly occurred there in Poland and
then the sort of spin off for lack of a
better term, into Birkenal, But on a daily basis, if

(08:33):
people want to come down to the Holocaust and Humanity Center,
what are some of the things you feature that they
could see there.

Speaker 7 (08:40):
So, as Elizabeth said, it's actually a really complementary experience
to the exhibition that will be there through March. The
Auswitz exhibition, we have stories of local survivors that sort
of walk you through from their eyewitness accounts the history
as they experienced it and veterans, i should say, a liberators.
And we have a number of other really sort of

(09:00):
incredible immersive opportunities as well. We have Dimensions and Testimony
where you can actually have a real conversation in real
time with a survivor. It's not AI, it's real video,
but it is augmented. It's sort of supported through an
AI algorithm. But you can literally walk up in front
of right now doctor al Miller, who passed away three
years ago, and you can have a conversation, ask him

(09:21):
about his time during the war. You can ask him
about his favorite flavor of Greater's ice cream and how
much he likes the Reds. You can ask him any
question and he'll answer it. So that's something people really
ought to do. And then we have this whole Humanity gallery,
which is an exploration and how we can use this
history to inspire a sense and activate character strengths in
us that allow us to be what we call upstanders.

(09:44):
So there were bystanders, they were upstairs, people who stood by,
There were people who stood up. What was it about
the people who stood up? And how can we find
that in ourselves and activate that through these character strengths
that we use. So it's you know, definitely come down
seven days a week. We'll be there and excited to
see people.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
So this will be running until what April, rightl okay,
but don't wait. And what are some of the artifacts
that are in there.

Speaker 1 (10:07):
They range from large concrete posts with barbed wire on
them so you get a sense of the physicality of
the camp and a portion of the barracks so you
understand how many people were squeezed together in those buildings,
to buttons and hair brushes and toothbrushes and a child's
shoe and a woman's red high heeled shoe right thinking
like she was going on a train journey somewhere and

(10:29):
this is the last thing that she put on. So
it's incredibly moving and powerful. It's deeply human, and I
hope that it means that people walk away with an
appreciation for life and joy and understand how we have
to make choices every day.

Speaker 4 (10:47):
Boy, when you go to Sensimuseum dot org and you
see the video, I mean, I'll get.

Speaker 6 (10:54):
Well, we know you're an emotional, softy guy to.

Speaker 7 (10:56):
Be here, I am, but this one even for folks
who are not emotional and softy. Is this a very
heavy and moving history that everyone should witness.

Speaker 1 (11:06):
I give you a hard time about that, but that's
your showing your humanity right there, and that's what we
want people to have an experience with with this history.

Speaker 6 (11:14):
History is not long ago, it is not far away.

Speaker 1 (11:16):
It is deeply touching to our humanity, and it should
create additional conversations and opportunities for us to be better
human beings.

Speaker 4 (11:25):
Well, what you guys are doing is awesome. I can't
wait to get down there and check it out. Elizabeth Pierce,
President and CEO of the Cincinnati Museum Center, and Jackie Conjato,
thank you guys both so very much for taking the
time to come down here. This is great stuff and
the best of success on this Auschwitz, not long ago,
not far away, right now, running through April at the

(11:47):
Cincinnati Museum Center.

Speaker 6 (11:50):
Thank you, Thank you.

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(13:45):
gonna talk about stress this time of the year, as
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Pastor Chad Hoven, lead pastor at the Horizon Community Church
right there in Newtown along the banks of the Little
Miami River. What a beautiful morning it is, Pastor Chad.
How are you today?

Speaker 9 (15:29):
I'm doing pretty well. How about yourself.

Speaker 3 (15:30):
No complaints, absolutely none.

Speaker 4 (15:32):
Was very I got a little broken up here talking
about that new exhibit that is starting down at the
Cincinnati Museum Center about Auschwitz, and boy, if people go
to Cincinnati Museum dot org they will see.

Speaker 3 (15:51):
Just some of the pictures video.

Speaker 4 (15:53):
It just tears you'll, okay, I tell you what else
tears people up this time of year at Chad, we're
getting in to the holidays, and it's a time of
great joy, of thankfulness, of celebration, hopefully spending a lot
of time with family and friends. It is also I
would imagine you tell me from your shoes, walking in

(16:15):
your shoes, it has to be one of the most
stressful times of the year for a lot of folks
out there.

Speaker 10 (16:22):
Well with that a doubt in fact, if you think
about it, just what we try and accomplish. Just in
Christmas time, for example, you're going to if I told
you any other month, in the next thirty days, you're
going to have five different parties. You're going to buy
gifts for everybody you know, You're going to travel at
three different locations on and.

Speaker 9 (16:38):
You're going to decorate the house. You can tear everything down.

Speaker 10 (16:40):
You'd think I would never try and do all that
in one thirty day period of time. So just the
nature what we take on, and part of those are
all wonderful experiences or attempts to create wonderful environments, but
just the amount we take on in preparing for that.
And then yes, you're with people that you love and
care about, but also people that drive you crazy. And
so in one sense we're all stressed up, all stressed up,

(17:03):
but no place to go. And so I do think
learning how to deal with our stress. Having expectations often
causes stress too, because you're like, hey, I know everyone's
going to get along. Well they've never given not everyone
has ever gotten along ever before. Yeah, it's normal to
a misunderstanding. It's normal for you know, one person doesn't

(17:25):
want this or wants to eat it this time. So
I think a lot of it with stress is setting
your expectation. And also I think understanding where stress comes
from and how to handle it can be helpful. Because
especial needs Dad, one thing I learned over the sixteen years,
you know I've had a special needs son with severe autism,
is my circumstances weren't going to change radically, you know,

(17:47):
I had a stressful situation. I think for many of us,
we think stress is something that happens to you versus
something happens in you.

Speaker 9 (17:56):
There's a big difference. Now, that's not to say they're
on triggers when things happen. Yes, those have to me.

Speaker 10 (18:01):
But two people can encounter the exact same circumstance and
handle it very differently. Well, that tells you something, That
tells you that stress is not primarily what happens to you.
So what happens in you? How are you going to
process that? I like and sometimes the stress of beause
ongoing chaos of special needs was like driving a car
from here to Chicago. And just so when you hop

(18:22):
in the car with me, I locked the doors and say, hey,
by the way, I enjoy your ride to Chicago. By
the way, there's two wasts here. One of the wasts
you can see is right there on your windshield. The
other one, I'm not sure.

Speaker 9 (18:31):
Where it is. Enjoy your ride.

Speaker 10 (18:34):
And that's how it feels. Sometimes it's like I know
one of the things I need to deal with, there's
another one hiding in this car, and I can occasionally
hear the buzz.

Speaker 9 (18:41):
What happens then is your whole body.

Speaker 10 (18:43):
Your inner RPM goes up, like you know, seven thousand rpm,
and you're like, well, I need to call myself back
down to one thousand rpm.

Speaker 9 (18:51):
I can't. There's two wasps in this car.

Speaker 10 (18:53):
One I can see, and one's going to bite me
at any minute or sting me in minutes. So part
of what I had to learn is there were off
and two walks. One I knew about and what I didn't.
Almost every day, I need to learn how to the
one not say my circumstance is going to change to
get me distressed if something happened in me. I need
to learn how to better manage the things I have,

(19:14):
how to think about it differently. And then I had
to practice getting that rpm. I could never get it
quite down to one thousand rpm, but I can move
from eight to five. And part of that's what scientists
called neuroplasticity, and that's the ability to actually kind of
reform your physical brain with your mind. How am I
going to think about this? How can I process that.

(19:35):
I've mentioned this before, but one thing helps with stress
is what I call hippo wrestling. A lot of times
you think you're dealing with the real issue. But you're
actually dealing with your hip hippothomas. And so when you
get triggered for stress, it kind of goes in three stages.
Stage one is is a trigger, and it could be
something happens to you. It could be I think about
something that might happen. If I'm a warrior, I could

(19:56):
be my own trigger. Well, then what happens is your
hippocamp or a hippothalamus kicks in. It begins to release adrenaline, cortisol,
and you kick.

Speaker 9 (20:05):
Into what's called fight or fight.

Speaker 10 (20:06):
So back to my WASP example, You're like, oh my goodness,
I think I hear the wasp. I wonder if it's
over here? Do I need to fight? Am I gonna
have to swing at this thing? Am I going to
have to jump out of the car? And so that's
why your RPM goes up, because that hippo campus is
kicked in. Well, that hip a campus that can help
you in many arenas, can lie to you. Sometimes you
don't have a need to be triggered, but.

Speaker 11 (20:26):
You said, the God, this hippo squeezing all the stripped
into you, freezing squeezing all this this cortisol in you,
and adrenaline and then you get stuck there and where
chronic stresses you don't realize that your hippo Thomas is
h is taken over.

Speaker 10 (20:42):
And so part of hippo wrestling is learning, am I
really dealing with a real issue or am I dealing
with my reaction to the real issue? How can I
think about this differently? How can I process differently?

Speaker 4 (20:53):
You know, you used a word that I think that
I mean the older I get and we all try
to do things better each and every day. Sometimes we succeed,
oftentimes we take two steps back. But it's that word expectations.
Give me an example of what you would say to
somebody you used. You know, Okay, here comes family. They're

(21:15):
going to be staying at our house. Man, We're all
going to get along great well. In reality, we probably
know if we're honest with ourselves, which we infrequently are,
truth be told that there's going to be some stress. So,
you know, kind of going back to what we talked
about a couple of weeks ago, sort of setting your expectations,
maybe having a conversation ahead of time before people come in.

Speaker 3 (21:38):
Would you suggest things like that.

Speaker 10 (21:41):
I do think it's helpful because often you know, when
you have multiple personalities in the room. You know, I'll
go in family dynamics, and beforehand I'll say, hey, like,
what time do you like to get up early? What
time do you want to do stuff? And so you're
trying to set expectations on how things work. Hey, some
people like to sleep in, some people don't. Hey, really
helpful if you didn't bring up that subject. So I'll

(22:04):
even start respectfully though, Hey, you're an adult. You can
do whatever you want. But as I was thinking about
who's going to be together, I think it might be
helpful if would you be willing to lots of questions,
a lot of respectful keeping my tone down, but I'm
also trying to say I'd like to make this the
best experience possible for everybody, And I do think that
can be helpful.

Speaker 9 (22:22):
And I think.

Speaker 10 (22:22):
Internally it's almost like I don't know if you remember
the old cassette tapes or eight track players, but sometimes
when family gets together, you don't realize that you're playing
old tapes in your mind. Like maybe your brother drove
you crazy, he always talked disrespectful of you. Well maybe
that's still true, but every time he opens his mouth
or your sister opens her mouth. You're playing r spect

(22:44):
in the back of your head, and so whatever they say,
you're interpreting it through the music, the background noise of
feeling disrespected. And if you can instead say, you know,
I need to turn down my background music and realize
that maybe I'm not reacting to what they're saying. I'm
reacting to this old tape from the past. That's where
kind we moved from stained glass to playing glass of

(23:04):
stained glass. The Bible says that one way you can
handle stress is you take every thought captive. And part
of those expectations are what was I expecting here? Was
that a realistic expectation? Do I really need to have
that expectation?

Speaker 9 (23:16):
You know?

Speaker 10 (23:17):
Is it really that important that I die on every
single hill here? And then on the other side, the
Bible says, renew your mind, and so you can think
differently about this. You know, is it okay that your
family doesn't get along.

Speaker 9 (23:28):
Well, there's the difference.

Speaker 10 (23:30):
Between everyone should be happy all the time at Christmas? Okay,
Well you could try that drive you crazy, or you
can say I'd like everyone to get along, but it's
okay if they don't. But we're going to have try
and have a good time as often as possible. That's
a very different background noise. Otherwise, every time conflict and
again I'm a person who doesn't like conflict either. But
every time you hear conflict coming, the background music starts

(23:52):
playing Jaws.

Speaker 9 (23:53):
You know, yehohn, I'm thinking about to blow up.

Speaker 10 (23:55):
Done, I'm dying that blows up because of the self
dolling prophecy versus. Hey, you know what, they're going to
sometimes disagree on politics, whatever it is. But I might
call in the dance and say, hey, guys, we know
those different opinion politics and the family before we get
to the kitchen table. I know you got some wonderful
singers about whatever your political side is. Could you not
do those at the dinner table if you and that

(24:16):
person want to go have a conversation, you know, in
the other room later on. Because you enjoy that kind
of thing. A lot of us don't enjoy that kind
of thing. And I've got a couple of family members
whor like that. They love talking politics and they love
engaging in debates.

Speaker 9 (24:28):
Other people drive them crazy.

Speaker 10 (24:30):
So I wouldn't say at the table sometimes, hey, we
all know that so and so the politics driver crazy.
So Hey, let's hold that off till later and just
enjoy the meal. Or hey, we put a card on
your table for Thanksgiving, We're going to talk with things
we're thankful for today, and so we'll do a little guided.

Speaker 9 (24:47):
Questions and things like that.

Speaker 10 (24:48):
But I do think it's appropriate, and sometimes you can't
control it, you know, you can't control people or circumstances.
Other times sometimes you can guide it gently, nudget or
at least try and ask ever one for mutual respect,
so that I think underneath the stress level and the
triggers that people have, and the hippos that kind of
get kicked in and a family gathering, I think.

Speaker 9 (25:09):
People would like to enjoy themselves. I think the whole world.

Speaker 10 (25:14):
But of course, when you travel to your travel, the
kids are upset, yeah, and they got manage to them.
So you're not at your best either. You're not sleeping
your same mattress. So even then to say everyone is
not in the best circumstance, meaning thirty days of trying
to do a thousand things, I'm going to give double
doses of patience, double doses of grace. I'm going to
assume the best. I think if if we would just

(25:36):
come into circumstances a family and say, more often than not,
I'm going to give the benefit of doubt, and I'm
going to assume the best, and I'm going to imagine
that someone is carrying something that I don't know. Like
if I told you, hey, someone got really ticked off
at you today in traffic or mad at you, or

(25:56):
an employee or a coworker, and you were telling me
the story about how inappropriate was and I said, well,
did you know they just found out they got cancer.

Speaker 9 (26:05):
Your whole perspective would change.

Speaker 3 (26:06):
Yep.

Speaker 10 (26:07):
It still doesn't mean that what they said was appropriate
or way the handle was appropriate, but suddenly that stress
of me all I can change my mindset and have
some compassion towards the person rather than irritation as a person.
Now that the first one. So you know, my instinct
is to judge and to you know, realize you know,
theation of me handling that correctly.

Speaker 11 (26:26):
Blah blah blah blah.

Speaker 10 (26:26):
I would have done that.

Speaker 11 (26:27):
Of course I would have done that.

Speaker 10 (26:28):
So I think to have and some perspective can really
help you. But everyone around you as well.

Speaker 4 (26:34):
You know, I talked about a study that came out,
not a study where a former head of the psychiatric
division of the FDA, came out yesterday and talked about
how antidepressants, in his estimation, are so overprescribed. In your job,

(26:57):
So much of your job as a pastor is to
walk people through some very tough days and nights. You
hear all the time, man, I'm so stressed out. Are
we saying we're more stressed out than we are? Or
are we really more stressed out now more than ever?

Speaker 10 (27:18):
Well, the word is stressed became popular in nineteen seventies
as kind of normal vernacular. It's actually developed in nineteen
thirties and forties by an indocrinologist, and he defined it
as a non specific response to a demand for change.
And so I think it has become like the go
to thing to say, Like I say, how are you doing?
I'm busy and I'm stressed, the two things everybody does.

(27:42):
So I do think it's become the current vernacular for
describing things. And I think it's actually kind of a
deficiency of being able to.

Speaker 9 (27:48):
Say what's really going on.

Speaker 10 (27:49):
I'm worried, I'm fearful, I'm angry.

Speaker 9 (27:53):
It's like stresses, this.

Speaker 10 (27:55):
Neutral word that we all accept as appropriate versus kind
of being more on. But I think also a little
philosophy for a second. We're living in a culture of materialism,
meaning we think human beings are only material. So if
you're only material, then we just need to give you
a medicine that's going to help take care of your
material body. If you realize the human beings are both
material and immaterial, meaning they have a soul, what you think,

(28:18):
what you feel, and what you want, as well as
a body, then you say, oh, my spiritual dimension, my
soul is dimension. I can handle this with medicine, yes,
but also with learning how to talk about my feelings,
learning how to take captive of the feelings that are inaccurate,
learning how to renew my mind and think better thoughts
towards the circumstance. So I think it's a whole philosophical
problem that we don't realize human beings are far more

(28:41):
than just you know, meat facts that can be medicated.
We're souls, and think about it, like when you're stressed.
When we're stressed, we talk to ourselves. If you're a worrier,
I wonder if this happens, what this happens, what this
happens in change reaction anxiety. You're talking to yourself even
anger fantasies right here, that's conflict, my boss, and I'm

(29:01):
gonna say this, and he's gonna say that. I just
see you're talking to yourself. What if there was another source,
a person to talk to, you know, I would call
it prayer, You call it meditation. But it said talking
to yourself when you have a problem. What if you
could talk to someone who's the ultimate source of strength
and comfort and wisdom. Well, just say a sound smarter,

(29:22):
doesn't it. I know all my resources talking to myself,
and I already know my limited resources. If I could
have figured this out, I probably would have. I need
outside wisdom, outside strength. So God says that you can
cast all your anxieties upon him. You can take every
thought captive, you can renew your mind, you can meditate
on things that are good and pure in a good rapport,

(29:42):
and you can reach out to him and say God,
I need wisdom and how to handle the situation. I
can't control the universe or my mother in law or
my kids, but I do want you to help me
control how I'm going to handle it.

Speaker 3 (29:54):
Great stuff, great, great stuff.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
We can continue this topic, I think for multiple weeks
because they are a lot of people that and each
and every one of us is one of them. Where
we have all these expectations, we get stressed out ahead
of time, we get stressed out during and maybe just
a deep breath, maybe a conversation, maybe prayer can help
dramatically change that. Chad, we thank you so much for

(30:18):
your time and your expertise. I know we're going to
miss you next week, but we'll look forward to catching
up with you the week after.

Speaker 9 (30:24):
Sounds great. I appreciate all right as.

Speaker 4 (30:26):
Chad open from the Horizon Community Church. Great stuff plane glass,
stained glass every Wednesday at eight thirty eight. All right,
before we get out of here, let's just check the
roadways one more time, Heather Pasco.

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Things okay.

Speaker 8 (30:39):
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UCA House Traffic Center. The Lung Cancer Rapid Access Program
at the UC Cancer Center is built to give you
a care plan fast meet with a specialist in two days.
Call five one three five A five U se CC.
We do have a stall though on I seventy one
southbound before I two seventy five. It is off on

(31:00):
the right shoulder on I seventy four westbound after I
two seventy five. This all here is on the right
side as well. I'm Heather Pasco A News Radio seven
hundred A w wel w HI.

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