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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the guarden here on news radio six to ten
WTVN eight two to one, WTVN eight hundred and sixty
ten wtv and talking about yardening and three weeks away,
three weeks away from today, Bucky football season starts. The
first of fall will start. That's right, that's right. The
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meteorological fall starts on September the first. So all right,
three weeks in the day, but it's it's here and there.
We got a lot to talk about. We have a
special guest today, lots of tips and taking your calls.
So let's not hesitate. Let's get rocking and rolling with
a Buggy Joe Boggs Departments Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor, Commercial
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Resource Kitcher for the of Our Hearts State University Extension
about the County Faculty OLHAYSU Department in Tomology. By the way,
their website has to be byg L dot OSU dot
DU Ladies and gentlemen, mister common sensical himself Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Good morning, sir, good morning. I'll tell you and you
also never introduced me as a special guest that's outstanding.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Special guests, Buggy Joe Buggs. Well, you know what, you're
a special regular.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm special.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Spatial or special.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Spatial spacial large you know it is, so who's a
special guest? I mean I'm waiting with bated breadth on
that one.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Lois Lane's second cousin, Linda.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh my goodness, Well that'd be fun, won't it. Who was? Well?
Lois Lane was the what was the love interests of
Clark Kent? Right? Yes, yes, you know, you know without
the newer Superman movies. Demographically we would be we would
be stuck, wouldn't we There would be so many people
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have no idea. She was also an accomplished woman on
her own.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Let's not just reduce her to Clark Kent's love interest.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
She was a reporter, she was a career girl.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
She didn't that's right, and she kept Jimmy in line too,
huge correction on that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I love it. You're exactly right. Oh my gosh,
I tell you, I kind of I feel a set
up here. I don't know what happened there. By the way, Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The Tomato Festival out in Rentaldsburg going on this weekend.
Have you ever gone to.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That I have not.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Ella wants to go want you to go and be
in the Tomato Dodgeball Festival tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, and and after the faux Paula that I just had,
she's going to.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Be That's why she wants you to go and be.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
On the other team. If you wanted what I stepped
right into it a minute?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Why did you say, Wilson, the two of you?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What there you go?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah? I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You know I've already stepped in at once and and
hit the dirt.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I already knew where I stood, So, oh, yeah, that's right.
What did you bought? While Joe? What did you step
in and hit the dirt?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah? That segue almost kind of went under the radar,
didn't it. Yes, Well, last, you know, I've been writing
about an ancient organism that I just simply find fascinating.
So what we're talking about is something called nostoc no
no nostoc commune and and it's a it's a cyanobacterium.
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And so what we're talking about there is an organism
that exists most times, you know, as a like a
single cell organism, but they get together and form these big,
you know, gelatinous mats uh just look like something from
outer space. But the thing is, for you, years when
I've been reporting about this, I've always said that they're
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they're very slippery. They really do present a hazard mainly
in nursery operations. You have a weed barrier down and
then you put on top of that weed barrier outside,
let's say containers. Then you're irrigating, right, and these these
organisms require a lot of moisture to exist. Now, they
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can dry out and they can survive very long periods
totally dried out, dehydrated. However, to proliferate, they really do
require occasional shots of moisture. And so you know, you've
probably known, I've known, you know, nursery employees that have
you know, really had challenges. I mean, it's like ice.
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And I've written about that, and I've heard stories. Oregon
State University, for example, did a study to come up
with a way to manage these just because of it,
you know, it presented such a hazard to the workers. Well,
last week I was focused on and I posted an
alert about bagworms feeding on deciduous trees. And the trees
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I visited were were sweet gums columbnuar sweet gums But
as I was walking around, you know, looking to see
if I could find bagworms on other things, ron I
hit a slick spot and before I knew it, I
was closely examining the turf grass. Have you have you
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have you? Have you ever fallen so fast? I mean,
thankfully it was onto soft ground, But have you ever
fallen so fast that there's like a delay your your
head is still up where it was originally and you're
on the ground, and then you're on your ground? Of course,
you know, I have to say it. Instead of checking
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to see if there's any body parts that are broken
or or or injured, what do you What do we do? First?
We first look around?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Anybody notice me doing that?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And it's worse. I I kind of had a little
fun with it with a big alert that I posted,
uh and I didn't say this an alert run. I
got up, took another step, and it went back down again.
It was just, oh yeah, it was amazing, So what
was happening? And then before you know, it gets too
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scary to folks. I don't want to say you're just
going to go out in your yard and fall. The
first thing that's needed is an open area or weakened
turf grass. I mean you look at the picture, uh,
and the grass doesn't look too bad, except there was
an area where I think, you know, water was seeping
almost like a false spring that was coming out of
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the ground, and it had weakened the turf grass because
there's too much water, so you need that first. It's
it's not going to be all over the place. But
then this organism, you know, can get a start, and
it's very common, although we most frequently see it as
its dried matt, I mean dried black you know that's
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growing in an open area, but when it gets wet.
And what had happened is we had some thunderstorms that
went through and now we could use rain. Right now,
I need to go back out there because I'm pretty
sure it's probably dehydrated again. But if we get a
shot of rain at this time of year, it can
rehydrate very quickly. And it did surprise me, and of
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course I was kind of going uphill probably wouldn't have
the same problem with this flat ground, but it really
did surprise me at just how slippery that stuff was.
So at any rate, it's a fascinating organism. And I
say in there it's older than the hills, and it
literally is nonstock commune and other cyanobacteria. I have been
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around for not millions, but billions of years. Uh, they're
even older than the Appalachian Mountains. So when they say there,
that's pretty old hills, that's pretty old. That's that's right.
So it's again, it's a fascinating organism and I don't
want to imply, and it doesn't cause any harm to
anything except your pride. But it was it was a
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bit of a surprise you if you slip on it,
it's really yeah. Yeah, So that was kind of a
that was an interesting thing. I didn't need any coffee
after that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I wish i'd have been there to witness that. I
really truly do.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yes, I know you, no, I'll tell you. But we'd
have probably both been on the ground because I know
you'd probably step forward to say, well, what happened?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And then no, I wouldn't No, I wouldn't have been
laughing so hard. I've had tears in my eyes.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well you would have fallen down, but from laughing, not
laughing stepping on.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, nothing from you know what I always think of
seeing that too, is like on the farm or out
in our nursery on gravel driveway, you know where gravel
pathways where you're driving, it's there a little rut, it
stays wet, you know, holds a little moisture there. You
can get it to grow in that pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Actually, you know, I it's it's I used to believe that. Well,
maybe there was a connection, you know, this group of
gravels very often limestone and maybe like high pH.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That I said, right, I agree with I was always
always had something to do with it with a gravel.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, but I think it, I think it really just
has to do with an open area. It does not
require I mean, it's not a plant, so it doesn't
have roots or anything like that said, doesn't require the
same things that we think of with well with mosses,
which are kind of primitive plants. So but but you're
all right, these open areas where you have a seep
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in a driveway or I show pictures of a gravel
parking lot that has a lot of it. Uh yeah,
they do tend to do very well there. But then
if you look off, you know, just walk over to
you know, like where you have weekend and I use
the word you know, weakened open turf grass. You can
also find there. It's just not as obvious, and it does.
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It is really kind of, like I said, an interesting thing.
But we can talk. I have a feeling we've talked
right into the break.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
We do. We have to take a break and come back.
We'll find out. I'm also curious what they came up
with a solution to get rid of it. Maybe Joe
will share that with us as well. Here on news
radio six NWTVN are you bobbing buggy? Joe Boggs is
the head going up and down?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'll tell you that that's great, A great way to
get get a little movement this morning, right, you know,
get the heart pumping and a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, after the fall, after your fall.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So I need to revisit something because you ever get
an email message and and it just causes you to say,
oh no, I mean you just look at it, you
read it. Yeah, now this thankfully this is not you
know normally, of course, we don't talk about messages, so
I certainly wouldn't mention the name. But I don't want
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to embarrass any anyone. And I can say with certainty
probably this person won't be listening because they are far
they are from a state, far, far away. So but
I got a message this morning that said that they
have Magnolia scale and they have read what has been
posted and what I've posted about Magnolia scale, and and
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and they informed me that they, you know, made a
malifi on application. And I then they asked, would that
kill the lady beetles that controlled my Magnolia scale. So, yes,
you're being quiet because exactly the way, Yes, that's exactly.
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I mean, what do you say? I mean, you know,
of course they're resounding yes, I mean not just malthion,
but you know traditional you know that what we call
the non birational, the insecticide, our broad spectrum, that yes,
they will kill the beneficial insects. So you know, I
simply had to respond that yes it would. And you
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know now it means that that because the egg hatch
occurs over an extended period of time with Magnolia scale,
it in fact eggs will hatch longer than the malithion
will still be active, it will no doubt require second application,
but worse, once you get on that pesticide treadmill, right,
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that's all you've got. And so yes, it was a bit.
I'm sorry. I mean, it's just a bit disconcerting, you
know that they did read what we posted, uh and
still you know, went ahead with that. So I again
I had to That's one of those things that just
front and center. I hadn't planned on really bringing it up.
But sometimes it's a little frustrating, isn't it. You know,
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you provide advice and yes, like I said, this is
not going to be a listener. That's that's that's hearing
what's you know, what we're talking about today. But aminder, yeah,
oh well there you go. Then I'm in deep trouble.
You know, though it it is a reminder though that
before I mean, we're not saying you and I, none
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of us are saying that, okay, that insecticides are inappropriate.
You know, sometimes it's it is the most effective tool
that you have at hand. But of course we also
teach that you know, learn everything you can about the
you know what you're targeting. And in this case, of course,
my all your scale as a native insect, it has
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quite a few natural enemies. And this year it's just
been an unusually heavy outbreak of magnolia scale, and I
mean not just in a hard dates a lot. It's
just been incredible, but I will predict that no, you know,
next year, it may it may disappear. That's kind of
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what it does, right that when I first came to extension,
for example, it was the number one Saft scale question
that I was getting. That's thirty two years ago. Then
we went into the scale wilderness right years and years
where I had no pictures on this scale. And so
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we had another blip about fifteen years ago, and then
it went away, and now we're back into you know,
another round. And that's important to keep in mind because
it isn't that you know, there's been so many applications
of insecticide to wipe them out. It just means that
they naturally cycle from year to year to years. So
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learning everything you can about the past first and then decide, okay,
you know, what is the most effective long term option.
If you can get past, for example, this season with
this scale, if you can get past all right, pretty
high population this season, it's not a killer. I mean,
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it takes multiple years of an infestation to start causing
any kind of long term harm, so it's not a killer.
But if you get past this season and then see
what happens next season, and then you know and then
make the decision as to whether or not this needs
to be suppressed with what we call the big guns,
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right you know that, but also risk you know, taking
out the beneficials. I'm sure you weren't planning on talking
about that today right now. I really wasn't either, you know.
I just I saw this message and I thought, well,
you know, maybe we need to revisit a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well I have it, you know, as far as right now.
My next couple weeks is managed by walking around, walking
around your yard and looking at what's going on and
making your notes for what's you're going to be doing
in the future. And one of is to look, you know,
look at your Magnolia's obviously to see if there's any
scale on there, just so you take a look and
notice what's interesting is I got? And I also, this
is kind of this past I think it was two
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weeks maybe this past week. Two weeks ago had two
different types of Magnolia's, a Star I believe magnolia and
then a sweet Babe magnolia. Instead to scale the scale
on both of them, Well, the sweet Baby magnolia didn't
have the scale but you know, sweet baby magnolia, the
bark has those white splotches on it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, and mistookta for scale when that's actually just the
way the bark is. And then, of course, and not alone.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'll tell this story. Several years ago. You know, I
got off a walking path to walk up to Now
I did not know they were Sweet Bay because for
some reason Sweet Bay and Star confused me a little bit,
you know, which is easily done anyway. Any rate, I
walked up to the Sweet Bay magnolia is a collection
to take a picture of scales. Of course, as I
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got closer, I started realizing, oh no, no, that's that's normal,
That just bark. But but you're right, it does, it does. Now,
I do need to say this, though sweet based southern
Magnoia are Nadius magnolias, they can become a bit a
little bit infested, not badly because they you know that
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they've developed a defense against this native past. But but
it is it can be stark between the two if
you have both in your landscaping.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yep, yep, no doubt. Hey, we got to go. Always
great information, by h We'll talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
We'll talk to you next week. You have a great week.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Ron, Thank you here, Thanks Shoe, you too, Buggy Joe
Boggs again bygl dot OSU dot E du quick break
we come back. Phone lines will be open for you
eight two to one WTVN eight hundred and six to
ten WTVN. Here on news radio six to ten WTVN.
Just a quick reminder if you're looking for a little
bit something to do yet this morning before noon, it's
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the twentieth annual Union County Master Gardner Plants Sale going
on to Union County Fairgrounds out in Marysville. Started at
eight gruns until noon. They have sun shade, perennials, native plants, shrubs, trees, bulbs, daylilies,
and grasses. All plants are divided from the master Gardener's
own gardens. Plants are reasonably priced, so come out and
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pick up some really special plants. Again, it's the Union
County Master Gardener Plant Sale going on this morning at
the Union County Fairgrounds in Marysville. It lasts until noon,
so be sure and check it out. I've heard they
always have a lot of great plants at that particular sale. Jim,
good morning, you hear me?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Okay? So here, just several days ago, I had to
have a large silver maple taken out of my front
yard and it was suggested that I use a five
that's called tordn rtu as a stump killer that I
have like uanamous and arbor dy crab, apple and a
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large pine tree that's within the root range of this
silver maple. So I'm concerned about the herbicides perhaps leeching
out of the maple's roots and harming the other plants
or trees.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So they suggested that you treat the top of the fresh,
freshly cut stump with the torton.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, you can do that. You can do that with
kills all round up any kind of broadly if we
killer really what it's trying, what they're when you do that,
what it's doing is keeping that stump from regrowing is
basically the bottom mind. That's that what you do there
is not going to spread through the rest. This was
a big tree, right, yeah, yeah, it's not going to
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spread through the rest of the root system. That basically
is going to affect that immediate stump right at the top.
And that's about it. I mean, if you get some
movement into some very close roots there, it could possibly happen,
but otherwise, now it's just it just helps to keep
that thing from regrowing or resuckering out of the actual
trunk of the tree, which maple's are bad at doing that.
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Ash can do that, locusts will do that. So that's
what they're trying to do, is to just keep it
from regrowing. But you know, it doesn't kill the stump.
I mean literally kill it and the roots and everything.
It just keeps that thing from regrowing on the top.
Hopefully then it starts to decay and over time it
goes away. Are you intending on ever having it ground
out or you're just going to let it decay? Naturally?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
No, we wanted to have it ground out, and you know,
perhaps in the future put another tree either you know,
in its place, or if I was going to have
it ground out, do I even have to put herbicide
on it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Nope, As a matter of fact, I'm not sure that
I would. I would have recommended that in the first place.
But again it's just again it's a precautionary measure to
keep it from regrowing. But no, if you're going to
have a ground out, heck, I just leave the thing alone,
have somebody come in and grind it out, and when
they do that, ask them to grind down as low
as they can. A lot of times those stump grinders
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they'll only go down six or eight inches to get
it just below soil surface and then put soil over
the top of it and be done with it. Tell
them that eventually, somewhere down the road you want to
replant a tree in that general location, so you would
appreciate it if they could take out most you know,
take that stump down to the bottom of it, which
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isn't that deep. It's probably gonna have to go down
fifteen eighteen inches and maybe go out a little bit
and try to take some of those lateral roots off
of there as well if they can, and then let
it go from there. And if you ever do decide
to do that, gim replant in that general area, which
I'm not a big fan for putting it right exactly
back into that same spot, but it can be done.
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But what you've got to do is get all of
those wood chips out of there and have just normal
regular soil there, because as those chips break down, it
can it sucks nutrients out of the soil. It's a
long process for it to decompose, but it can hurt
future plants from trying to grow there, is my point.
So there's other things we need to do down the
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road to have it ready for something else to be
planted there. But I have him tell them you want
it somewhere down the road, that you definitely want to
replant a tree, and that you need to grinding down
as low as they'll go, and maybe out a bit,
just to get as many of those, you know, the
bigger roots out of there, and then you should be
good to go. What I would watch Jim is sometimes
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down the road, out away from the tree. Sometimes you'll
see if the roots may sucker up a little, you know,
a little plant may sucker up off of the roots.
I've seen that happen, especially with locust trees. They're really
bad at that. Keep an eye out for that. But
otherwise I just haven't grinded out, and you're good to go.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Okay. So now that I've lost my shade, my hostas
are starting to get sun scorch. Yeah, yeah, would it
help to water them or not more often or not?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Well, keep good moisture around them. I mean that it
all adds together. So yeah, you want to keep good
moisture around them. You don't waterm any extra, but just
keeping good even moisture. Sometimes they adjust, but I mean,
here you got this. You know, all of a sudden,
I'm in full sun and I was in the shade,
and they're gonna score right away. I've seen, you know,
we've taken the big shrubs in the middle of the
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summer and cut them back. Unfortunately, the leaves on the
bottom that were kind of shaded within a week are
starting to turn white and brown because of the extra
sun and gut that hit them, and eventually the plant
readjusts it keeps on going. Most of the hosses that
are there are probably shade hosses and would rather be
in the shade. And if that's if that's the case
down the road, you're late enough in the season shouldn't
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be an issue. Make sure you don't overwater them, but
keep good moisture around them. We get into the fall,
get into September October, great time to dig and move
those and put them somewhere else where they's more of
a shadier location.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Okay, well, we sure appreciate your all that you do
there all right, Jim, good talking with you.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Appreciate the call. All right, take care, quick break, you
come back page. You're coming up next. Coming up the
top of the hour, Linda Lane is going to join us. Linda,
and Linda has been on our show many times. She
is our dahlia expert. We're going to talk about growing
dahlias in the Columbus area. Just absolutely gorgeous flower and
they do a really good job at it. They had
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the privilege of going over to England and attending their
garden show over there and part of the dahlia judging
as well, and then they've got their show coming up
at the end of this month. We want to tell
you about that. If you want to get a little
more interest in the dahlias. You'll be coming up at
the top of the hour. In the meantime, you and
me talking yardning at eight two to one WTVN here
on news Radio six to ten w tv I do
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wear my sunglasses at night, talking yardning here on news
radio six ' ten WTVN. Somebody want to know what
is the tourt on what we were talking about there.
It's a it's an herbicide basically, and the chemical that's
in there. I think there's a couple of them in there.
Has pretty good systemic action and is used quite a
bit if you're clear out brush and smaller trees. You
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know in an area long fence rows, things like that.
They'll paint that on the top of the stumps like honeysuckle,
the non native honeysuckle, you're trying to get rid of it.
You cut that off and you paint it on top,
and it keeps it from resuckering or regrowing around the top,
and may kill some of the roots right there immediately
around that stump, but mostly most effective for those smaller
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trees two three inch trunk diameter, smaller honeysuckle shrubs, things
like that, well, you cut it off of the ground
and you're not going to grind the stump out, paint
that on there, and it does a pretty good job
keeping them from resuckering. You had to be cautious with it. It
lasts in the soil for a while, so it's read
the label. As you always need to do is read
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the label. But you had to be very cautious using
that stuff. And again, if I would recommend it will
only be for something like that. For the brush honeysuckle,
smaller trees, that type of thing. Otherwise there's bigger trees.
Get the stump ground out and move forward and get
the soil prepped, and so you're ready to replant a
tree there. When the time comes back to the gardening
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phone lines, we shall go page.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Good morning, hey Ron, how are you doing this morning?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Good in yourself?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Not too bad.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I really enjoy your program. Try to listen as often
as possible. Pretty much weakly, but hey, I had some
concrete work done around the house here recently, and you
know a hot and dry it spin. Well, apparently I
didn't see this happen, but it's apparent that it did.
It must have rinsed some things off in the yard,
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in the grass where they poured in various locations, and
of course.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Kill the grass.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
So does that soil have to be removed and replaced
or is it just amount of time has passed before
I can replant where they killed the grass with whatever
rinse sate came off of utensils and so forth.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Are we going to guess it's just the the mortar
that they were rinsing off.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah, I can see that. You know, there is fine,
you know, fine little stone and stuff in there, and yeah,
I would say that's it's the line.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I think probably alkalinity, right, that could.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Be, Yeah, it could be. I would think, and I'm
this is just my opinion. I would think that if
I if I went in there and I took a
hard rake, and you rake the first rake the top
of that, just kind of rake that off and get
all that off of there. To me, if you broke
that barrier, got that off of there, maybe rake out
a little bit of the top of the soil. Just
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rake it out and scoop it up and take it
somewhere else and pitch in the woods or whatever and
put a little not bagged top soil, but regular soil.
Shred it so well back on top of that, I
would think you'd be good to go. I have a
feeling it's just only affecting that top half inch or
inch layer of where they rent that off, and just
like I say, just rake it out. Go in there
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and just kind of rake take a look, you know,
you know when you're getting ready to do that, and
just kind of get down your knees and kind of
rink it a little bit. Is there any grass at
all growing in there?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Very well sketchy things.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So that means that they're they're still alive. And it
really didn't kill everything out, but you know, so some
of the crowns are still alive. So as far as
I would say, I look at that and say, okay,
stuff is still alive. Let's just rake that top layer off,
get rid of that a little bit of bring in
some new soil, kind of sprinkle on top, and do
your receding. And I'm saying you're going to be good
to go. Uh and it cars coming up here in
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another week or two. Is you're gonna be right into
the perfect seeding time.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I know.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
That's why I'm asking, all right, uh, and then I'll
provide you with an update. So I'm the guy that
had the frank lineum that you told me how to
do the mound and all yes, and the tree is
very happy. It's it's blooming, all right. I love that. Yeah, yeah,
it's very it's super happy. And then my daughter sent
me out a giant sequoia seedling from California, which I've
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had in a pot now for this second year. It's
real happy. It's growing profusely, so you know, people are
growing those successfully in Ohio. So I want to put
that in the ground someplace. But is it too late
in the year you think to put this little seedling.
It's about probably about a foot tall, but it seems
very happy. Should I put it in the ground now
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or hold it till spring next year?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I would have no problem putting into the ground in September,
you know, get let's get into the fall a little bit,
and by the time I get into mid mid September,
late September, I'd get it in the ground. But I
think the thing I do page twofold. Promise yourself that
if it's out in the yard somewhere, that you're going
to put at least a three foot circle around that
with mulch. All right, you got to do that for sure,
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And then make sure you protect it. So put steaks
around it and put wires around a chicken wire whatever,
because something's going to take that out over the winter
just you can almost count on it. So protect it. Yeah,
you know, with the fencing and the mulch, I'd plan it.
I'd put it in this fall. It'll develop some roots
over September, October, November, even into December and be good
to go to get off to a good start for
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you to spring me personally. I put it out, I
put it out in the fall.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
What about soil Amendment?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, dude, yeah, and we've got to go. We got
to take a hard break here. But add a little
bit of a twenty percent of soil Amendment, use the
same soil pine fine, something like that would be great.
A little bit of composts and use that as your Backfiel,
and you should be good to go. Quick break, we
come back Lois Lane at the top of the ear.
We're going to talk about Dalias here in the Garden
with Ron Wilson on news radio six to ten WTVN.
Good morning, everybody. Welcome. I'm Ron Wilson, and you are
in the guarden here on news radio six to ten
WTVN eight two to one, WTVN eight hundred and sixty
ten wtv and talking about yardening and three weeks away,
three weeks away from today, Bucky football season starts. The
first of fall will start. That's right, that's right. The
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meteorological fall starts on September the first. So all right,
three weeks in the day, but it's it's here and there.
We got a lot to talk about. We have a
special guest today, lots of tips and taking your calls.
So let's not hesitate. Let's get rocking and rolling with
a Buggy Joe Boggs Departments Joe Boggs, Assistant Professor, Commercial
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Resource Kitcher for the of Our Hearts State University Extension
about the County Faculty OLHAYSU Department in Tomology. By the way,
their website has to be byg L dot OSU dot
DU Ladies and gentlemen, mister common sensical himself Buggy Joe Boggs.
Speaker 2 (00:56):
Good morning, sir, good morning. I'll tell you and you
also never introduced me as a special guest that's outstanding.
Speaker 1 (01:04):
Special guests, Buggy Joe Buggs. Well, you know what, you're
a special regular.
Speaker 2 (01:10):
I'm special.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Spatial or special.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Spatial spacial large you know it is, so who's a
special guest? I mean I'm waiting with bated breadth on
that one.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
Lois Lane's second cousin, Linda.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Oh my goodness, Well that'd be fun, won't it. Who was? Well?
Lois Lane was the what was the love interests of
Clark Kent? Right? Yes, yes, you know, you know without
the newer Superman movies. Demographically we would be we would
be stuck, wouldn't we There would be so many people
(01:50):
have no idea. She was also an accomplished woman on
her own.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
Let's not just reduce her to Clark Kent's love interest.
Speaker 2 (02:01):
She was a reporter, she was a career girl.
Speaker 1 (02:03):
She didn't that's right, and she kept Jimmy in line too,
huge correction on that.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
Yeah, I love it. You're exactly right. Oh my gosh,
I tell you, I kind of I feel a set
up here. I don't know what happened there. By the way, Joe.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
The Tomato Festival out in Rentaldsburg going on this weekend.
Have you ever gone to.
Speaker 2 (02:29):
That I have not.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Ella wants to go want you to go and be
in the Tomato Dodgeball Festival tournament.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Yes, and and after the faux Paula that I just had,
she's going to.
Speaker 1 (02:43):
Be That's why she wants you to go and be.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
On the other team. If you wanted what I stepped
right into it a minute?
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Why did you say, Wilson, the two of you?
Speaker 2 (02:57):
What there you go?
Speaker 1 (03:02):
Yeah? I guess.
Speaker 2 (03:05):
You know I've already stepped in at once and and
hit the dirt.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
I already knew where I stood, So, oh, yeah, that's right.
What did you bought? While Joe? What did you step
in and hit the dirt?
Speaker 2 (03:20):
Yeah? That segue almost kind of went under the radar,
didn't it. Yes, Well, last, you know, I've been writing
about an ancient organism that I just simply find fascinating.
So what we're talking about is something called nostoc no
no nostoc commune and and it's a it's a cyanobacterium.
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And so what we're talking about there is an organism
that exists most times, you know, as a like a
single cell organism, but they get together and form these big,
you know, gelatinous mats uh just look like something from
outer space. But the thing is, for you, years when
I've been reporting about this, I've always said that they're
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they're very slippery. They really do present a hazard mainly
in nursery operations. You have a weed barrier down and
then you put on top of that weed barrier outside,
let's say containers. Then you're irrigating, right, and these these
organisms require a lot of moisture to exist. Now, they
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can dry out and they can survive very long periods
totally dried out, dehydrated. However, to proliferate, they really do
require occasional shots of moisture. And so you know, you've
probably known, I've known, you know, nursery employees that have
you know, really had challenges. I mean, it's like ice.
(04:51):
And I've written about that, and I've heard stories. Oregon
State University, for example, did a study to come up
with a way to manage these just because of it,
you know, it presented such a hazard to the workers. Well,
last week I was focused on and I posted an
alert about bagworms feeding on deciduous trees. And the trees
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I visited were were sweet gums columbnuar sweet gums But
as I was walking around, you know, looking to see
if I could find bagworms on other things, ron I
hit a slick spot and before I knew it, I
was closely examining the turf grass. Have you have you
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have you? Have you ever fallen so fast? I mean,
thankfully it was onto soft ground, But have you ever
fallen so fast that there's like a delay your your
head is still up where it was originally and you're
on the ground, and then you're on your ground? Of course,
you know, I have to say it. Instead of checking
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to see if there's any body parts that are broken
or or or injured, what do you What do we do? First?
We first look around?
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Anybody notice me doing that?
Speaker 2 (06:07):
And it's worse. I I kind of had a little
fun with it with a big alert that I posted,
uh and I didn't say this an alert run. I
got up, took another step, and it went back down again.
It was just, oh yeah, it was amazing, So what
was happening? And then before you know, it gets too
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scary to folks. I don't want to say you're just
going to go out in your yard and fall. The
first thing that's needed is an open area or weakened
turf grass. I mean you look at the picture, uh,
and the grass doesn't look too bad, except there was
an area where I think, you know, water was seeping
almost like a false spring that was coming out of
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the ground, and it had weakened the turf grass because
there's too much water, so you need that first. It's
it's not going to be all over the place. But
then this organism, you know, can get a start, and
it's very common, although we most frequently see it as
its dried matt, I mean dried black you know that's
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growing in an open area, but when it gets wet.
And what had happened is we had some thunderstorms that
went through and now we could use rain. Right now,
I need to go back out there because I'm pretty
sure it's probably dehydrated again. But if we get a
shot of rain at this time of year, it can
rehydrate very quickly. And it did surprise me, and of
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course I was kind of going uphill probably wouldn't have
the same problem with this flat ground, but it really
did surprise me at just how slippery that stuff was.
So at any rate, it's a fascinating organism. And I
say in there it's older than the hills, and it
literally is nonstock commune and other cyanobacteria. I have been
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around for not millions, but billions of years. Uh, they're
even older than the Appalachian Mountains. So when they say there,
that's pretty old hills, that's pretty old. That's that's right.
So it's again, it's a fascinating organism and I don't
want to imply, and it doesn't cause any harm to
anything except your pride. But it was it was a
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bit of a surprise you if you slip on it,
it's really yeah. Yeah, So that was kind of a
that was an interesting thing. I didn't need any coffee
after that.
Speaker 1 (08:37):
I wish i'd have been there to witness that. I
really truly do.
Speaker 2 (08:40):
Yes, I know you, no, I'll tell you. But we'd
have probably both been on the ground because I know
you'd probably step forward to say, well, what happened?
Speaker 1 (08:50):
And then no, I wouldn't No, I wouldn't have been
laughing so hard. I've had tears in my eyes.
Speaker 2 (08:56):
Well you would have fallen down, but from laughing, not
laughing stepping on.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Yeah, nothing from you know what I always think of
seeing that too, is like on the farm or out
in our nursery on gravel driveway, you know where gravel
pathways where you're driving, it's there a little rut, it
stays wet, you know, holds a little moisture there. You
can get it to grow in that pretty quickly.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
Actually, you know, I it's it's I used to believe that. Well,
maybe there was a connection, you know, this group of
gravels very often limestone and maybe like high pH.
Speaker 1 (09:31):
That I said, right, I agree with I was always
always had something to do with it with a gravel.
Speaker 2 (09:36):
Yeah, but I think it, I think it really just
has to do with an open area. It does not
require I mean, it's not a plant, so it doesn't
have roots or anything like that said, doesn't require the
same things that we think of with well with mosses,
which are kind of primitive plants. So but but you're
all right, these open areas where you have a seep
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in a driveway or I show pictures of a gravel
parking lot that has a lot of it. Uh yeah,
they do tend to do very well there. But then
if you look off, you know, just walk over to
you know, like where you have weekend and I use
the word you know, weakened open turf grass. You can
also find there. It's just not as obvious, and it does.
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It is really kind of, like I said, an interesting thing.
But we can talk. I have a feeling we've talked
right into the break.
Speaker 1 (10:27):
We do. We have to take a break and come back.
We'll find out. I'm also curious what they came up
with a solution to get rid of it. Maybe Joe
will share that with us as well. Here on news
radio six NWTVN are you bobbing buggy? Joe Boggs is
the head going up and down?
Speaker 2 (10:44):
I'll tell you that that's great, A great way to
get get a little movement this morning, right, you know,
get the heart pumping and a little bit.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
Yeah, after the fall, after your fall.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So I need to revisit something because you ever get
an email message and and it just causes you to say,
oh no, I mean you just look at it, you
read it. Yeah, now this thankfully this is not you
know normally, of course, we don't talk about messages, so
I certainly wouldn't mention the name. But I don't want
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to embarrass any anyone. And I can say with certainty
probably this person won't be listening because they are far
they are from a state, far, far away. So but
I got a message this morning that said that they
have Magnolia scale and they have read what has been
posted and what I've posted about Magnolia scale, and and
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and they informed me that they, you know, made a
malifi on application. And I then they asked, would that
kill the lady beetles that controlled my Magnolia scale. So, yes,
you're being quiet because exactly the way, Yes, that's exactly.
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I mean, what do you say? I mean, you know,
of course they're resounding yes, I mean not just malthion,
but you know traditional you know that what we call
the non birational, the insecticide, our broad spectrum, that yes,
they will kill the beneficial insects. So you know, I
simply had to respond that yes it would. And you
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know now it means that that because the egg hatch
occurs over an extended period of time with Magnolia scale,
it in fact eggs will hatch longer than the malithion
will still be active, it will no doubt require second application,
but worse, once you get on that pesticide treadmill, right,
(12:53):
that's all you've got. And so yes, it was a bit.
I'm sorry. I mean, it's just a bit disconcerting, you
know that they did read what we posted, uh and
still you know, went ahead with that. So I again
I had to That's one of those things that just
front and center. I hadn't planned on really bringing it up.
But sometimes it's a little frustrating, isn't it. You know,
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you provide advice and yes, like I said, this is
not going to be a listener. That's that's that's hearing
what's you know, what we're talking about today. But aminder, yeah,
oh well there you go. Then I'm in deep trouble.
You know, though it it is a reminder though that
before I mean, we're not saying you and I, none
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of us are saying that, okay, that insecticides are inappropriate.
You know, sometimes it's it is the most effective tool
that you have at hand. But of course we also
teach that you know, learn everything you can about the
you know what you're targeting. And in this case, of course,
my all your scale as a native insect, it has
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quite a few natural enemies. And this year it's just
been an unusually heavy outbreak of magnolia scale, and I
mean not just in a hard dates a lot. It's
just been incredible, but I will predict that no, you know,
next year, it may it may disappear. That's kind of
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what it does, right that when I first came to extension,
for example, it was the number one Saft scale question
that I was getting. That's thirty two years ago. Then
we went into the scale wilderness right years and years
where I had no pictures on this scale. And so
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we had another blip about fifteen years ago, and then
it went away, and now we're back into you know,
another round. And that's important to keep in mind because
it isn't that you know, there's been so many applications
of insecticide to wipe them out. It just means that
they naturally cycle from year to year to years. So
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learning everything you can about the past first and then decide, okay,
you know, what is the most effective long term option.
If you can get past, for example, this season with
this scale, if you can get past all right, pretty
high population this season, it's not a killer. I mean,
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it takes multiple years of an infestation to start causing
any kind of long term harm, so it's not a killer.
But if you get past this season and then see
what happens next season, and then you know and then
make the decision as to whether or not this needs
to be suppressed with what we call the big guns,
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right you know that, but also risk you know, taking
out the beneficials. I'm sure you weren't planning on talking
about that today right now. I really wasn't either, you know.
I just I saw this message and I thought, well,
you know, maybe we need to revisit a little bit.
Speaker 1 (16:07):
Well I have it, you know, as far as right now.
My next couple weeks is managed by walking around, walking
around your yard and looking at what's going on and
making your notes for what's you're going to be doing
in the future. And one of is to look, you know,
look at your Magnolia's obviously to see if there's any
scale on there, just so you take a look and
notice what's interesting is I got? And I also, this
is kind of this past I think it was two
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weeks maybe this past week. Two weeks ago had two
different types of Magnolia's, a Star I believe magnolia and
then a sweet Babe magnolia. Instead to scale the scale
on both of them, Well, the sweet Baby magnolia didn't
have the scale but you know, sweet baby magnolia, the
bark has those white splotches on it.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
That's interesting.
Speaker 1 (16:50):
Yeah, and mistookta for scale when that's actually just the
way the bark is. And then, of course, and not alone.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
I'll tell this story. Several years ago. You know, I
got off a walking path to walk up to Now
I did not know they were Sweet Bay because for
some reason Sweet Bay and Star confused me a little bit,
you know, which is easily done anyway. Any rate, I
walked up to the Sweet Bay magnolia is a collection
to take a picture of scales. Of course, as I
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got closer, I started realizing, oh no, no, that's that's normal,
That just bark. But but you're right, it does, it does. Now,
I do need to say this, though sweet based southern
Magnoia are Nadius magnolias, they can become a bit a
little bit infested, not badly because they you know that
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they've developed a defense against this native past. But but
it is it can be stark between the two if
you have both in your landscaping.
Speaker 1 (17:56):
Yep, yep, no doubt. Hey, we got to go. Always
great information, by h We'll talk to you next Saturday.
Speaker 2 (18:04):
We'll talk to you next week. You have a great week.
Speaker 1 (18:06):
Ron, Thank you here, Thanks Shoe, you too, Buggy Joe
Boggs again bygl dot OSU dot E du quick break
we come back. Phone lines will be open for you
eight two to one WTVN eight hundred and six to
ten WTVN. Here on news radio six to ten WTVN.
Just a quick reminder if you're looking for a little
bit something to do yet this morning before noon, it's
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the twentieth annual Union County Master Gardner Plants Sale going
on to Union County Fairgrounds out in Marysville. Started at
eight gruns until noon. They have sun shade, perennials, native plants, shrubs, trees, bulbs, daylilies,
and grasses. All plants are divided from the master Gardener's
own gardens. Plants are reasonably priced, so come out and
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pick up some really special plants. Again, it's the Union
County Master Gardener Plant Sale going on this morning at
the Union County Fairgrounds in Marysville. It lasts until noon,
so be sure and check it out. I've heard they
always have a lot of great plants at that particular sale. Jim,
good morning, you hear me?
Speaker 4 (19:13):
Okay? So here, just several days ago, I had to
have a large silver maple taken out of my front
yard and it was suggested that I use a five
that's called tordn rtu as a stump killer that I
have like uanamous and arbor dy crab, apple and a
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large pine tree that's within the root range of this
silver maple. So I'm concerned about the herbicides perhaps leeching
out of the maple's roots and harming the other plants
or trees.
Speaker 1 (19:59):
So they suggested that you treat the top of the fresh,
freshly cut stump with the torton.
Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (20:06):
Yeah, you can do that. You can do that with
kills all round up any kind of broadly if we
killer really what it's trying, what they're when you do that,
what it's doing is keeping that stump from regrowing is
basically the bottom mind. That's that what you do there
is not going to spread through the rest. This was
a big tree, right, yeah, yeah, it's not going to
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spread through the rest of the root system. That basically
is going to affect that immediate stump right at the top.
And that's about it. I mean, if you get some
movement into some very close roots there, it could possibly happen,
but otherwise, now it's just it just helps to keep
that thing from regrowing or resuckering out of the actual
trunk of the tree, which maple's are bad at doing that.
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Ash can do that, locusts will do that. So that's
what they're trying to do, is to just keep it
from regrowing. But you know, it doesn't kill the stump.
I mean literally kill it and the roots and everything.
It just keeps that thing from regrowing on the top.
Hopefully then it starts to decay and over time it
goes away. Are you intending on ever having it ground
out or you're just going to let it decay? Naturally?
Speaker 4 (21:12):
No, we wanted to have it ground out, and you know,
perhaps in the future put another tree either you know,
in its place, or if I was going to have
it ground out, do I even have to put herbicide
on it.
Speaker 1 (21:30):
Nope, As a matter of fact, I'm not sure that
I would. I would have recommended that in the first place.
But again it's just again it's a precautionary measure to
keep it from regrowing. But no, if you're going to
have a ground out, heck, I just leave the thing alone,
have somebody come in and grind it out, and when
they do that, ask them to grind down as low
as they can. A lot of times those stump grinders
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they'll only go down six or eight inches to get
it just below soil surface and then put soil over
the top of it and be done with it. Tell
them that eventually, somewhere down the road you want to
replant a tree in that general location, so you would
appreciate it if they could take out most you know,
take that stump down to the bottom of it, which
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isn't that deep. It's probably gonna have to go down
fifteen eighteen inches and maybe go out a little bit
and try to take some of those lateral roots off
of there as well if they can, and then let
it go from there. And if you ever do decide
to do that, gim replant in that general area, which
I'm not a big fan for putting it right exactly
back into that same spot, but it can be done.
(22:34):
But what you've got to do is get all of
those wood chips out of there and have just normal
regular soil there, because as those chips break down, it
can it sucks nutrients out of the soil. It's a
long process for it to decompose, but it can hurt
future plants from trying to grow there, is my point.
So there's other things we need to do down the
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road to have it ready for something else to be
planted there. But I have him tell them you want
it somewhere down the road, that you definitely want to
replant a tree, and that you need to grinding down
as low as they'll go, and maybe out a bit,
just to get as many of those, you know, the
bigger roots out of there, and then you should be
good to go. What I would watch Jim is sometimes
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down the road, out away from the tree. Sometimes you'll
see if the roots may sucker up a little, you know,
a little plant may sucker up off of the roots.
I've seen that happen, especially with locust trees. They're really
bad at that. Keep an eye out for that. But
otherwise I just haven't grinded out, and you're good to go.
Speaker 4 (23:34):
Okay. So now that I've lost my shade, my hostas
are starting to get sun scorch. Yeah, yeah, would it
help to water them or not more often or not?
Speaker 1 (23:51):
Well, keep good moisture around them. I mean that it
all adds together. So yeah, you want to keep good
moisture around them. You don't waterm any extra, but just
keeping good even moisture. Sometimes they adjust, but I mean,
here you got this. You know, all of a sudden,
I'm in full sun and I was in the shade,
and they're gonna score right away. I've seen, you know,
we've taken the big shrubs in the middle of the
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summer and cut them back. Unfortunately, the leaves on the
bottom that were kind of shaded within a week are
starting to turn white and brown because of the extra
sun and gut that hit them, and eventually the plant
readjusts it keeps on going. Most of the hosses that
are there are probably shade hosses and would rather be
in the shade. And if that's if that's the case
down the road, you're late enough in the season shouldn't
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be an issue. Make sure you don't overwater them, but
keep good moisture around them. We get into the fall,
get into September October, great time to dig and move
those and put them somewhere else where they's more of
a shadier location.
Speaker 4 (24:49):
Okay, well, we sure appreciate your all that you do
there all right, Jim, good talking with you.
Speaker 1 (24:55):
Appreciate the call. All right, take care, quick break, you
come back page. You're coming up next. Coming up the
top of the hour, Linda Lane is going to join us. Linda,
and Linda has been on our show many times. She
is our dahlia expert. We're going to talk about growing
dahlias in the Columbus area. Just absolutely gorgeous flower and
they do a really good job at it. They had
(25:17):
the privilege of going over to England and attending their
garden show over there and part of the dahlia judging
as well, and then they've got their show coming up
at the end of this month. We want to tell
you about that. If you want to get a little
more interest in the dahlias. You'll be coming up at
the top of the hour. In the meantime, you and
me talking yardning at eight two to one WTVN here
on news Radio six to ten w tv I do
(25:39):
wear my sunglasses at night, talking yardning here on news
radio six ' ten WTVN. Somebody want to know what
is the tourt on what we were talking about there.
It's a it's an herbicide basically, and the chemical that's
in there. I think there's a couple of them in there.
Has pretty good systemic action and is used quite a
bit if you're clear out brush and smaller trees. You
(26:02):
know in an area long fence rows, things like that.
They'll paint that on the top of the stumps like honeysuckle,
the non native honeysuckle, you're trying to get rid of it.
You cut that off and you paint it on top,
and it keeps it from resuckering or regrowing around the top,
and may kill some of the roots right there immediately
around that stump, but mostly most effective for those smaller
(26:23):
trees two three inch trunk diameter, smaller honeysuckle shrubs, things
like that, well, you cut it off of the ground
and you're not going to grind the stump out, paint
that on there, and it does a pretty good job
keeping them from resuckering. You had to be cautious with it. It
lasts in the soil for a while, so it's read
the label. As you always need to do is read
(26:44):
the label. But you had to be very cautious using
that stuff. And again, if I would recommend it will
only be for something like that. For the brush honeysuckle,
smaller trees, that type of thing. Otherwise there's bigger trees.
Get the stump ground out and move forward and get
the soil prepped, and so you're ready to replant a
tree there. When the time comes back to the gardening
(27:06):
phone lines, we shall go page.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
Good morning, hey Ron, how are you doing this morning?
Speaker 1 (27:11):
Good in yourself?
Speaker 2 (27:13):
Not too bad.
Speaker 3 (27:14):
I really enjoy your program. Try to listen as often
as possible. Pretty much weakly, but hey, I had some
concrete work done around the house here recently, and you
know a hot and dry it spin. Well, apparently I
didn't see this happen, but it's apparent that it did.
It must have rinsed some things off in the yard,
(27:36):
in the grass where they poured in various locations, and
of course.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Kill the grass.
Speaker 3 (27:42):
So does that soil have to be removed and replaced
or is it just amount of time has passed before
I can replant where they killed the grass with whatever
rinse sate came off of utensils and so forth.
Speaker 1 (27:58):
Are we going to guess it's just the the mortar
that they were rinsing off.
Speaker 3 (28:03):
Yeah, I can see that. You know, there is fine,
you know, fine little stone and stuff in there, and yeah,
I would say that's it's the line.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
I think probably alkalinity, right, that could.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
Be, Yeah, it could be. I would think, and I'm
this is just my opinion. I would think that if
I if I went in there and I took a
hard rake, and you rake the first rake the top
of that, just kind of rake that off and get
all that off of there. To me, if you broke
that barrier, got that off of there, maybe rake out
a little bit of the top of the soil. Just
(28:35):
rake it out and scoop it up and take it
somewhere else and pitch in the woods or whatever and
put a little not bagged top soil, but regular soil.
Shred it so well back on top of that, I
would think you'd be good to go. I have a
feeling it's just only affecting that top half inch or
inch layer of where they rent that off, and just
like I say, just rake it out. Go in there
(28:56):
and just kind of rake take a look, you know,
you know when you're getting ready to do that, and
just kind of get down your knees and kind of
rink it a little bit. Is there any grass at
all growing in there?
Speaker 3 (29:08):
Very well sketchy things.
Speaker 1 (29:12):
So that means that they're they're still alive. And it
really didn't kill everything out, but you know, so some
of the crowns are still alive. So as far as
I would say, I look at that and say, okay,
stuff is still alive. Let's just rake that top layer off,
get rid of that a little bit of bring in
some new soil, kind of sprinkle on top, and do
your receding. And I'm saying you're going to be good
to go. Uh and it cars coming up here in
(29:33):
another week or two. Is you're gonna be right into
the perfect seeding time.
Speaker 2 (29:38):
I know.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
That's why I'm asking, all right, uh, and then I'll
provide you with an update. So I'm the guy that
had the frank lineum that you told me how to
do the mound and all yes, and the tree is
very happy. It's it's blooming, all right. I love that. Yeah, yeah,
it's very it's super happy. And then my daughter sent
me out a giant sequoia seedling from California, which I've
(30:02):
had in a pot now for this second year. It's
real happy. It's growing profusely, so you know, people are
growing those successfully in Ohio. So I want to put
that in the ground someplace. But is it too late
in the year you think to put this little seedling.
It's about probably about a foot tall, but it seems
very happy. Should I put it in the ground now
(30:25):
or hold it till spring next year?
Speaker 1 (30:27):
I would have no problem putting into the ground in September,
you know, get let's get into the fall a little bit,
and by the time I get into mid mid September,
late September, I'd get it in the ground. But I
think the thing I do page twofold. Promise yourself that
if it's out in the yard somewhere, that you're going
to put at least a three foot circle around that
with mulch. All right, you got to do that for sure,
(30:48):
And then make sure you protect it. So put steaks
around it and put wires around a chicken wire whatever,
because something's going to take that out over the winter
just you can almost count on it. So protect it. Yeah,
you know, with the fencing and the mulch, I'd plan it.
I'd put it in this fall. It'll develop some roots
over September, October, November, even into December and be good
to go to get off to a good start for
(31:09):
you to spring me personally. I put it out, I
put it out in the fall.
Speaker 3 (31:13):
What about soil Amendment?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Yeah, dude, yeah, and we've got to go. We got
to take a hard break here. But add a little
bit of a twenty percent of soil Amendment, use the
same soil pine fine, something like that would be great.
A little bit of composts and use that as your Backfiel,
and you should be good to go. Quick break, we
come back Lois Lane at the top of the ear.
We're going to talk about Dalias here in the Garden
with Ron Wilson on news radio six to ten WTVN.
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