Keeping plants healthy through winter

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Our toll free number eight hundred eight two three eight
two five five. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson, your
personal yard boy. We are talking about yard and they
working our way through this month of November, and a
lot of us is see by the way, Joe Strecker off
today taking the time off. Joe, who is that guy again?

(00:22):
Taking this a little time off and having a long weekend.
So good for Joe. So you're stuck with Danny and
me for the Cup of Dan and Ron.

Speaker 2 (00:30):
And maybe Dick from Dayton and Dick.

Speaker 1 (00:31):
From who knows who will join us in his cup,
but maybe it'll be you at eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five. Anyway, So he's off today.
But this week I was out of town. I had
a nice little trip out to Danny's one of Danny's
favorite states, North Carolina, and enjoyed the trip. Most of

(00:53):
the leaves were, uh.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Love my other home state of North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (00:56):
His other home state of North Carolina. Yes, leaves are
pretty much dropped about two thirds three quarters dropped a
little bit of fall color out there, but not much left.
But boy, they were really dropping like crazy. They didn't
get as much snow as other areas did, but they
did get a little bit of a dusting, but did
get some nice cool tempts a couple nights in a

(01:16):
row there, and I liked that. And some folks back
in Ohio were sending me pictures of like Columbus and
Cincinnati with a nice little snowfall, which was we missed
out on that one, but I was not.

Speaker 2 (01:31):
It was nice to be off a couple of days
from here at the right time, so I didn't have
to deal with it.

Speaker 1 (01:35):
Oh you were off both of those days. Yeah, Oh man,
you lucked out.

Speaker 2 (01:39):
I was blessed there.

Speaker 1 (01:40):
Although I can't I can't imagine the roads were very
bad as warm as it was.

Speaker 2 (01:44):
Although Monday morning, yeah, but not terrible.

Speaker 1 (01:48):
Right, although snow coming down freaks a lot of people out.

Speaker 2 (01:51):
So correct and calls them to start driving even more
insane than they do around.

Speaker 1 (01:54):
Here, crazier than ever. So, you know, so it happened.
It was a quick and quick out and I think
the thing to remember is it's just a reminder from
Mother Nature that winter is coming up. You know, we're
winding down for the fall season. But here's the thing.
When we got home Thursday afternoon, you know, the things

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that we still had outside. And this is clean up
weekend at the Wilson household. Convenient, isn't missus? Wilson stayed
out in Virginia with her sister, and this is weekend
clean up around the patio and entrance plantings. And I'm
the only one at home. How did that work out? Anyway?
It really did a number on anything that was tropical

(02:37):
or annual. But we were they were all things we
were going to get rid of anyway, but boy, they
were just turned to mush like that. But my point
being is this, as you're cleaning out, finishing up doing
that type of thing, there is still plenty of time
to plant a freeze like that and a frost and
the snow means nothing besides taking out those annual plants,

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finishing up the perennials and things like that that need
to have the folly starting to die back anyway, knocking
the rest of those leaves down for you, and getting
us ready and prepared going into the winter season. And
you know, the meteorological winter starts December the first, and
that's two weeks away, and of course then we get

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late December is when the one that you and I recognize.
Most of people recognized later in December. And that's why
folks say, well, you know, how much later in the
fall can I play? Well, you know, falls for planting
literally right up until the holiday season is depending on
the weather. And so don't let what happened here with
a little bit of snow and cold weather shut you

(03:43):
down from planting. You continue to go right on. Plants
now they're you know, they've lost their losing their leaves
at the nursing and things like that. They're ready to
go as far as shooting out more roots, and you
still have time to get early root development. And that's
one of the big benefits of planting in the fall,
getting that early minimal. It'll be minimal, but you're gonna

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get them started anyway, rooting in or early settled in,
watered in, settled in and ready to go come next spring.
And typically the temperature going to be the temperatures are cooler,
easier on you, easier on the plant. Soil digging right
now has got it should have some moisture in it
for you, and you know we it just makes it

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easier to plant so again, spring flowering bulbs, tulips, daffodils,
all of the minor bulbs, the crocus, and the snowdrops
and all that. Now is the time to plant. Now
is the time. If you don't have any of those,
you say, you know, I've always wanted to put a
few daffodils out there. And by the way, if you
have deer in your area, you know, within fifty miles

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of your house if you plant, or rabbits, if you
plant tulips. For the most part, now some of the
species tulips, they don't seem to bother as much. But
generally if you plant too ups in your in your
beds and all, and you've got deer and rabbits, they
love them. Be honest with you, you know, it's I

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think anymore we look at tulips in our area anyway,
almost as an annual plan them, you know, put them
in containers, do whatever, and enjoy them in the springtime. Uh.
And a container on the patio, on a table, uh,
maybe in a fenced in area or whatever. Now. I
have had some folks that have had masses of daffodils

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and then threw in some tulip bulbs back into the planting.
So it kind of, you know, disguised them back in
the back so that deer would come along in rabbits.
They don't eat daffodils, and they don't munch on a
lot of the minor bulbs as well, and so if
you hide them back in there, sometimes you can pull
off the tulips without them bothering them. But otherwise, you
know a lot of a lot of And again I

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know folks would say, we know, I got I've had
tulips that I plan all the time, and they don't
bother them at my house. But good chance you don't
have as many deer coming through, or it's in a
location where they happen to not notice that they're there.
But they love them. There's no doubt it's candy. So
you know, plant it as an annual planet and the
containers and enjoy them that way. To protect them from
the deer, or do all your stuff, put fence around them,

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put the deer repellents around them, you know, the deer
scram and the liquid fence and all that to try
to keep them moving on. And maybe you can pull
off that spring flowering the spring flowers on those tulips.
But point being is again that now is the time
for planting and bulbs again. You know you can. You're
gonna find spring flower bulbs in the springtime, sold in

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containers growing at your garden center. You go in in
the springtime, you're looking for a little bit of color
to add to the patio or whatever and the table
in the kitchen or whatever. And they're gonna have daffodils
and tulips and some of the minor bulbs growing in pots.
And they're gonna be a lot more expensive than what
they are when you buy them right now, because they're
usually on sale because they're trying to get rid of
them before the end of the season. So you can

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scarf those up. Do your owning catainers if you like that.
But they're potting them up right now and then they're
over winterington in cooler area situations and then bringing them
out and having them available for you in pots next spring,
so they charge a little bit more, so you know
your best bang for your buck. And can you plant
those next spring? You can grow them in the pots,
let them flour, feed them while you're in there, let

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them grow in the pots. They start to turn yellow,
you pull them out, cut off the foliage, put them
in the ground, and you're good. To go. But why
not do that now, save yourself some money. Plan a
lot more balls. And if you think you're gonna plant fifty,
buy one hundred, buy seventy five or one hundred, buy more,
more is better. Don't plant them in a row, plant

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them in clumps, plant them randomly, plant them in masses,
not in rows like soldiers. But plant more than what
you think, because you're gonna wish you did once they
start to come up and flour. But this is a
great time. Take advantage of that, taking you know, good
prices out there, take advantage of those those those prices.
But again, you got to plan them in in the fall.

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Forget to get them to flower in the spring. They
won't be available for you in the spring, unles, they're
already growing in a container. That somebody did that in
the container in the fall. So again, plenty of time
to do that, plenty of time to plant trees matter.
In fact, I got a spot for another tree in
our yard, and I think if I get out this
weekend or next week, for sure, I'm going to add
one more tree. And I have no problem planting again

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as long as weather's permitting up until the holiday season.
Uh So, you're good to go, So don't out all
this stuff kind of shut you off if you've got
a lot of things to do. Now, several emails this
week about Okay, I bought a bunch of stuff last week,
this weather changed on me. I got the cold weather. Now,
now what do I do with these things? And should
I go ahead and plan or shut storm away? What

(08:47):
should I do? Well, we'll answer that question and of
course answering your questions as well. At eight hundred eight
two three eight two five five we'll talk about our
website at Ron wilson online dot com Facebook page. In
the garden with Ron Wilson right here in the garden
with Ron Wilson talking yarding at eight hundred and eight
two three eight two five five. Good morning. I am
Ron Wilson, your personal yard boy. Yes, I do have

(09:08):
a little bit of a head cold. I went out
to visit some family members crazy uncle, Doug and Annalise
and then some in laws in Virginia, and my uncle
sent me back with his head cold. He said that
I gave it to him. I said, he gave it
to me. You know, my wife got it and then
everybody got it. So we just shared. We just all
shared family thing. You know, you got to give it

(09:29):
to me. What the heck? So trying to kick that
bad boy out of here, Yes, sir, leaves that fog
in your head. And Danny had it this week, will
sin this issue? So must be going.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
Visited my doctor and she took care of it.

Speaker 1 (09:41):
So that's what doctors are supposed to do. Dan, Yes,
take care of it for you. So I'm glad you're
feeling better. So anyway, talking about yarning and my before
we went to the break, you know, a lot of
times and a lot of last week, people sending emails,
and by the way I travel like that. I still
answer emails but or try to have as best I can,
because I know how important it is to get questions answered.

(10:05):
But you know, I bought these plants, and I didn't
get a plant announced. This is going to happen. What
do I do if it just drops down really cold
one night, or you know, and it comes back up
the next day, It's really not an issue. And a
lot of times I'll just take those plants and move
them up to the foundation of the home or under
an overhang something like that. They get the heat off
the side of the house, water them. If you water

(10:28):
the plants, that really helps to help the plants get
it's hydrated, moisture in the soil keeps them a little
bit more cold tolerant, and just let them ride there
until the next day or two days later when you're
able to get back out and plant again. If it's
an extended period of time or something that's really tender
and you're you know, you're afraid to leave it above ground,
I mean, you know, and then again it's going to

(10:51):
be a longer period of time, just move them inside
the unheated garage, unheated shed, in the window well something
like that, just to give a little added protect until
the weather moves through. Bring them back out, and let's
still get them planted, all right, So let's still get
them planted. So you know, if you still have things
sitting out there, great. Now, if we get to a
point where you know you're not going to be able
to plant and you say, okay, I can't do it.

(11:13):
I'm not gonna get this rest of stuff done this year,
you got many options. The easiest option is to find
a place outside, maybe closer to the house north side
east side of the house, where the temperature, stay a
little more consistent over the winter, a little more protected.
Just trench out an area, set those pots down in
that trench, put the soil around the pots, bring in

(11:36):
some leaves and just pile up around them and melt
them in for the winter, and make sure you water. Now,
you get to water them, soak them really well. Maybe
water once a month, but just heal them in. That's
what the nursery does basically to overwinter a lot of
their plants. So you can just maultrimon like that. Now
you can also go back to the unheated garage or
unheated shed. But here's the kicker. Unheated sheds absolutely or

(11:58):
a barn or something like that. We needed. Garages today
aren't as cold as they used to be twenty five
years ago with insulated doors. With the insulation today in garages,
if they're attached or whatever, they stay a lot warmer
than they used to. So you've got to be a
little cautious there. So you know, you got to make

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sure your garage stays cooler. We want those plants to
stay cold. The reason for bringing them in the unheated
garage or unheated shed is to protect them from extremely
cold temperatures and extreme long periods of cold temperatures. All right,
So you know, but it's got to stay cold, and
you want them to stay dormant. If you bring those

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plants in there and it warms up and it's very warm,
and the next thing you know, they're starting to leaf out,
what are you going to do with them? So they've
got to stay cold. So the goal is that. And
if you get a stretch of in January February of
days where it starts to really warm up, check the
temperature in your garage to make sure it's not warming
up too much that you know, you kind of maybe
crack a little bit the bottom of the garage door

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to let the cool air get in there, or open
it and close it just to keep it cooler. The
whole goal is to keep them dormant and cold, but
not the extreme temperature exposure over the winter, all right.
And then in the spring. The real kicker here is
watching them because as it starts to warm up, if
those butts start to break in the garage again too early,

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what do you do with them? So, you know, you
try to move those out of the garage or shed
or cold frame or window well or wherever you put
them early enough that they still can sit outside. It's
not too extreme as far as the weather and come
back to life as they normally would based on the
temperatures that are outside. Right once they start to leap

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out in the garage, you're gonna have to protect those
until the weather breaks enough that you can finally get
them outside acclamatum and start to plant. So again, be protective.
But you know, and how soon can I do this?
You got to wait until the temperate just really get
consistently colder. And that's not what it's doing right now.
We're next week we're getting back up into the fifties

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and sixties again, So you know, we've got to wait
for the temperatures to cool down. They're gonna be okay
sitting outside, but eventually that's your plan. You're either gonna
mault them in for the winter outside or you're gonna
bring them in somewhere that it's a little more protected.
The unheated garage on heated shed, and we say unheated
because it must stay cold enough to keep those plants
dormant all winter long. And that's the same type of

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thing with those spring flowering bulbs. They've got to stay cold.
They must experience that cold temperature, but not come back
to life during the winter because of the fact that
the garage or whatever it may be may warm up.
You know, even with cold frames when you build a
coal frame like that. You know, cold frames have a
top on them that's ventable. They can heat up, sun

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hits down and there the next thing you know, it's
seventy degrees inside that cold frame. And if you're growing something,
that's okay, but you still got a vinit to keep
it cool enough to slow that stuff down. But if
you're trying to overwinter, if you in something like that,
be cautious about it. But again, plenty of time to
plant is my point. If you go to your local
independent garden centers right now, I guarantee you you know,

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the inventory is not going to be what it normally
would be, but then find things on sale. They may
have things healed in that you're gonna that you were
looking for that they had started to put away for
the winter, but still available for planting. Landscape crews will
continue to plant landscapes right up until the holidays, as
long as the plants are available and mother nature allows,
so you can continue to do the same thing. Last

(15:31):
two tools that I put away in my house. Of course,
the soil knife's out all the time, and so is
the square spade. But I always say the square spade
so I can continue to dig, transplant, do whatever I
need to do, edge beds and do things like that
till the end of the year. And the garden hose.
And obviously the garden hose is not attached to the
spicott at this time. It's laying next to it. I
hook it up and use it. As soon as I'm done,

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I unhook it and turn it, take it off of
there so it doesn't freeze on those nights where it
does drop down. The free all right, So plenty of
time to keep planning. Like I say, a lot of
folks asking about that this past a couple of weeks,
and uh, you know, if you've got things you haven't
got planned yet, you still can get the plant it.
If you find out you run out of time, you
can heal them in over the winter just like the

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nursery does, or use your run heat of garages or
sheds and overwinter them and bring them back out in
the springtime. As a matter of fact, if you have
some mums right now that you'd left in containers, and
you thought what it'd be nice if I could grow
those next spring, put them in the unheated garage or shed,
just like I was talking about, over winter them in
there where it's protected. Bring them back out in the springtime,

(16:35):
playing them in the ground. Good chance, still be just
fine by doing that. All right, quick break, we come back.
We'll be taking your calls at eight hundred eight two
three eight two five five here in the garden with
Ron Wilson. Eight hundred eight two three eight two five five.
That is our number. Good morning. I am Ron Wilson,
your personal yard boy, talking about yardning getting our way
through the month of November. Can you believe that couple

(16:57):
of weeks we're into Thanksgiving?

Speaker 3 (16:59):
Woo?

Speaker 1 (17:00):
You can't wait for the turkey and mashed potatoes and
all of that. Do you call it stuffing or dressing? Dan? No,
he's gonna. He doesn't know one or the other. There's
all it's the front of the side, all right, Just
go to the gardening phone. I was what do you
say eight hundred eight two three eight two five five,
West Virginia, Jim Good morning, Good.

Speaker 4 (17:20):
Morning, Ron. How are you doing? I heard you had
a head cold. I have the same thing, So it
must be going around the country.

Speaker 1 (17:27):
It must be. So what are you doing to treat yours?

Speaker 5 (17:31):
Oh?

Speaker 4 (17:31):
I put myself on Z pack. I'm a dentist. Oh
we're around the mouth all the time.

Speaker 1 (17:36):
Oh yeah, I don't know how you guys, I don't
know how doctors and dentists and dentister doctors. Also all
you guys and ladies don't get sick all the time.
How you do that? I have no idea.

Speaker 4 (17:47):
That's because we're around viruses all the time, so you're
exposed to.

Speaker 6 (17:51):
It a lot.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
And then you just yeah, I guess, but take our.

Speaker 4 (17:55):
Body's build immunity to it. Eventually, there there you go.

Speaker 1 (17:58):
And I would think even being a dinner would be
the worst.

Speaker 4 (18:02):
It is. It is. Let me tell you, I've been
in it for forty years. Wow, still practicing.

Speaker 1 (18:07):
Oh good for you.

Speaker 4 (18:08):
By the way, I the reason I called is my
neighbor had a brand new dogwood tree put in his yard.
Is about three and a half feet and it was beautiful,
and all of a sudden the deer came through and
they stripped it. It had to be deer because all
the branches are broken off. It just looks and all

(18:28):
the bark has been taken off. Is the tree worthless? Now?
Will it ever generate? Or is it just has to
be replaced?

Speaker 1 (18:37):
See if I looked at that tree trunk where they've
scraped the bark off the trunk of the tree, is
it all the way around? Yes? Yeah, If it gets
more than fifty percent around the trunk of the tree
where they've actually torn the bark off, that's not a
good thing. Now, there are some plants that will recover
from that slowly, but surely you know, plants don't read books,

(18:57):
and then as soon as you say it won't recover,
it does, so you never know, but it's always a
wait and see at this stage. All you can do
at this point is is go out there where all
the brunches were broken and clean cut those prune them
so that there's a clean cut there, not just a
broken edge. And you can even take like a utility
knife or a pen knife, razor blade, something like that,

(19:18):
and only as deep as the bark, go around those
areas where the bark's hanging loose and just kind of
make a nice little incision, go right around that and
get rid of the loose bark, and then that tree
will start to callous over, assuming there's enough bark left
on it to callous over. If there's not, and it's
really like all the way around peeled off, I'd say,

(19:41):
you know it's going to be a replacement. But here's
the deal. You do all that stuff and clean it
up and maybe put a little fence around us so
they don't do it again, and give it a shot.
I mean next spring. You wait and see it. If
it starts, If it leaves out in the springtime and
comes on, you're good to go. You watch it. If
it doesn't, you can tell early. Then we pull it
out and we replace it. So I don't know that

(20:01):
i'd replace it at this stage, but I got a
feeling the way you've described it to me, Jim, that
doesn't sound very good. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:10):
When I worked at it for my Doug, my neighbor,
I said, I'm not sure that's going to make it.
He said, well, we'll see what happens.

Speaker 1 (20:17):
Well, and it is. It's a wait and see. But
what you but again, clean it up a little bit
as best you can. That's going to help it out
and maybe put a little, you know, a couple of
steaks with some string around it or whatever to help
protect it for the rest of the winter, and then
we just wait and see what happens in the springtime.
But if it's as bad as what you just described
to me, I'd say it's probably not going to make it.
The smaller trees are going to have a tougher time

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to get through something like that.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
Okay, well, I thank you and you have a great Thanksgiving.

Speaker 1 (20:45):
Thanks Jim, good talking when you help you feel better
and the Dave in Mount Healthy Dave, good.

Speaker 7 (20:49):
Morning, Yeah, good morning. Have a question for your regarding SOD. Yes,
my son just bought a home out in the Milford
area and it's like an acre and a quarter and
it's heavily wooded well around the home. There was very
little lawn area from the existing owner. They had kind

(21:12):
of let it grow up and stuff, and there was
just not enough lawn to be you know, what he
was looking for. So he had some guys come in
and re leveled the yard out and raked it out
real good and gave a good area for planning. And

(21:33):
of course the timing was really really bad and they
got a lot of rain right after they did it,
and then he had a crew come in of tree trimmers.
He had some trees that were endangering the house. They
were leaning in towards the house, and they recommended that
they be taken down. So then the tree guys came
in and they took down a bunch of trees and
ground a bunch of stumps. So my question is they

(21:57):
the intent was about a month ago for them to
throw down seed and straw. Things got delayed several different times,
and now it's to the point where it's ready to
either seed it, which they said won't work, or lay sad.

(22:19):
And I was just thinking that you can't lay sad
this late in the year. I need to know your
opinion on that.

Speaker 1 (22:28):
Yeah, they're still cutting sods, so you can still lay
sad this late in the season. But it's getting you know,
you're almost to a point now where're starting to roll
the dice a little bit depending on what Mother Nature
decides to do. After Thanksgiving, you got two more weeks
and it looks like cooler temperatures but not really bad.
So you got two weeks to get it to try
to settle in and root in a little bit before

(22:48):
we get into cooler tempts. Would I take a chance
what you might want to take a look at? Is it?
You know? And let me back up for a second
where they talked about the seeding not going to work. Well,
what it becomes dorm seeding is what it is. So
you know, if they seed and straw or seed and
use like a spray over the top of it rather
than using straw that just holds it in place over

(23:10):
the wintertime so it can come up for you in
the spring. So you can do that as well. And
I look at it and say, well, would we want
to do a combination of sodding and seeding? So you
saw it where you really would you know where somebody
might be stepping off the sidewalk, might be stopping off
the patio. If you've got dogs or something that you
know need an area to step out, you may do

(23:30):
the sod in those particular areas and seed the rest.
So do a combination of both of those would be okay?

Speaker 7 (23:38):
That is exactly what they were suggesting at this point.
I just thought that the area that he wanted to
do is a fairly large area. And now if the
sod doesn't take does that mean that the sod is
going to die, and that would all have to be

(23:58):
removed and replace next next spring.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
If the if the roots don't, if the roots freeze
out over the winter time and they don't you know,
start to root in before we get into the dorm
and time of the season here. Uh, sometimes that does happen.
I mean, yeah, because now you got this matting there.
Sometimes you can get exactly you can slice seed through that,
but it's probably easier just to roll it up and
start all over again. So there is that possibility. So

(24:23):
that's why I'm saying you're kind of rolling the dice
this late in the year. Would I do it in
a smaller area with sad, Absolutely, I wouldn't hesitate at all.
Larger areas, you know, I would think twice about it.
But again I have no problems putting some saw down. Still.
I think we're I personally think we're in good shape.
But yeah, you do take a risk, that's all I

(24:45):
you know. I don't know what else to tell you,
but there is a risk there. But they are still
putting sawed down and they'll still being cut. And the
combo with it two, I think is a great way to.

Speaker 5 (24:54):
Go okay, yeah, all right, Well it sounds like the
guys who's working with has made a reasonable congestion then,
and I just worried about, you know, laying the stuff
down and then you know, having to redo it again
and then you know the cost of that, uh you
know for home buyers and the and the.

Speaker 1 (25:11):
Labor and the labor and everything to do go through
the whole thing. Let me just throw one thing out there.
Everywhere where they and they probably know what they're doing here,
but where they've ground out those stumps and there are
wood chips and things that are out there, don't forget
you know, hopefully they've gotten most of those out so
it's all soil. But even after the grinding and all,
as the roots break down underneath all of that, they
take nutrients out of the soil. So make sure they're

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going to feed that, so you know, adding fertilizer to
that and then putting that sawed down, and you're gonna
have to stick with that because they're going to be
fighting for that a little bit, uh, grass seed as
well next spring as that stuff starts to break down
a little bit. So trying to make sure you get
as many of those chips and that old wood out
of there and as much top soil as you can
have in there instead.

Speaker 7 (25:53):
Okay, okay, very good tip.

Speaker 5 (25:55):
All right, I appreciate it.

Speaker 3 (25:56):
Thanks a lot.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
I appreciate the call. I have a great Thanksgiving quick break.
We come back, Dick and Amy. You're coming up next
by the way top. At the top of the hour,
Barbie Bletch you our queen Bee will join us. Final
update for twenty twenty five on where our bees stand
at this stage. What updates do we have with the bees?
What's going on out there? In the bottom of the hour.
Oh man, I have found a great book. It's called

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if You've ever wanted to if you've not gotten into
canning preserving things that you're growing now in your edibles,
I have gotten a book that is absolutely outstanding. It's
called The Preservers Garden and it goes to the whole
thing of how to grow a garden for ferment and canning, pickling, dehydrating, freeze, drying,
in a whole lot more. It is absolutely outstanding. We'll

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talk with Jeremy Hill, co author with his wife Stacy,
but co author of this book called The Preserver's Garden.
All coming up in our next hour here in the
garden with Ron Wilson Landscaping eight hundred eight two three
eighty two five five. Good morning, I am Ron Wilson
talking about yardening. Moving our way through the month of Novemba.

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Still some lots of things you can be doing out there.
Grass seating obviously, it's for cool season grasses. You've gotten
into the dormant season, so anything you do from this
point forward will be dormant seating, meaning that it's not
going to come up until spring. A lot of times,
you know, unless it's a big open field, open area,
open landscape where they want to make sure they get

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erosion under control, so they'll sold it or spray the
foam on top or whatever. But anyway the insulation on
top to hold it in place. One of the best
times for doing a little overseating or spot dormant seating,
that type of thing. I like mid to late February,
grounds freezing and thawing, put the seed down, it's cracked,
open falls in the daytime, seals back over works a

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seed right in the ground for you, and it's right
before the spring season. But anytime from this point forward
through early first to March it's going to be dormant seating.
Then after that it becomes spring seating because you're putting
it down. They come up sometime in the spring, so
you know, keep that in mind. Sodding. You're starting to

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roll the dice at this stage, getting late, but can
still be put down, and we're still seeing it put
down around the area, so they are still cutting as
long as they can cut as well, look at it
as long as they can still cut it because they
know what they're doing. You can still put it down,
but you do take a risk of all a sudden
the weather just totally changing. Everything could totally freeze, and

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then it's probably not going to do anything. Just sit
there on top and you may lose that sod. So
roll the dice, but in smaller areas I would not
hesitate to do some sodding. Back to the gardening phone
n as we go at eight hundred eight two three
eight two five five Amy in Cincinnati, Good.

Speaker 3 (28:40):
Morning, Good morning, glad you're feeling better.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Run Thank you.

Speaker 3 (28:45):
So my question, I have a hydraine to three of
them actually right by my front door, and I don't
know what kind they are, but they're not the like
tone types I think they must throw on new wood,
maybe new and old. I don't know, But the bottom
line is, I know I'm really not is to prune
them this time of year, but like they look awful,
right because all the leaves have died. They're kind of
look like like weeds, like stalks just sort of not

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winter interests nice but just sort of dead. Yeah, So
can I go ahead and trim those back?

Speaker 1 (29:14):
Well? And this is a dumb answer. Can I trim
them back?

Speaker 2 (29:17):
You can?

Speaker 1 (29:19):
Uh, but what you do is aimy, you do risk
losing the flowers for next spring, depending on what type
they were. Are their flowers still left on them?

Speaker 4 (29:28):
No?

Speaker 3 (29:29):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (29:30):
All right, would it help if you just went through
and cut a couple of inches or so off the
ends and kind of even them up and.

Speaker 3 (29:36):
Shape it would help a lot, or just kind of
trim them down, Like I mean, they're probably like four
feet tall. Okay, So could I take like the top
foot off at least?

Speaker 1 (29:45):
Yeah? I mean you can't leave as much of the
old wood there as you can. Let's put it that way.
Cut it back to it makes you to what makes
you feel happy? They look better to you, and and
then go from there. And but leave as much of
the old wood as you can. In k they happen
to be a macrophil. Are the flowers white?

Speaker 3 (30:04):
No, they're pink, and they're the flat kind you know,
not like they like they're like on a plate or.

Speaker 1 (30:09):
Something, you know, like got it? So that is that
sounds like a macrophile, a type which does flower on
old and the newer variety's flowers a flower on old
and sometimes new growth as well. So that that is
what you're looking at. So the more you cut back,
the more of the flower buds you do remove. Looking
at next year. But again if it looks nasty and
you don't like it, and just realizing that you're going

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to remove some of the flowers, but yes, you can
go ahead and do that. And when you do the pruning,
find the buds on the stem, which you can see
very well now kind of about the take your clipping
about a quarter of an inch or so above that bud,
all right, and don't don't just share them straight across.
Kind of give me somewhat of a mounded look to
it as you prune them back. But yeah, just realizing

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you're going to sacrifice a few flowers, but absolutely you
can do it, no problem at all, and you're we're late.
We're late enough in the year now, that's not gonna
affect anything.

Speaker 3 (31:01):
Okay, So it won't hurt the plant anyway.

Speaker 2 (31:02):
No, no, you don't.

Speaker 1 (31:04):
It doesn't hurt you know most of the time, wrong
pruning doesn't actually hurt the plant out of the fact
that maybe losing the branching structure or whatever or the flowers,
but they typically most plants recover from whatever happens to it.
So all you're gonna do is possibly remove some of
the flowers for next year.

Speaker 3 (31:22):
Okay, what about a Japanese carria, I think that's what's called.
It kind of makes a little yellow flowers, so it
normally I would prune it after it did its second flowering,
but I forgot this year. So I just have this
monster plant sitting there and it's I don't mind it,
but it's going over the sidewalk and stuff. Can I
trim that?

Speaker 1 (31:41):
You sure can't? Well, and again leave it. You know
you're gonna gonna get some fairly early flowers out of.

Speaker 3 (31:46):
There, right, yeah, yeah, which I love. Yes, I think,
so the more I leave it the better.

Speaker 1 (31:52):
Again can be that's on old wood, So they're gonna
flower on old wood. So the more you leave, the
better off it's gonna be.

Speaker 3 (31:58):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (31:58):
And you may look to do a whole branch removal
just to get it away from the sidewalk sidewalk, a
little cut back, and then and then after it's done,
like you said, after it's done flowering that first round,
do a harder cut back if necessary.

Speaker 3 (32:11):
Okay, because I can cut it after it flowers, Can
I cut it back almost you're still going to the ground,
but like I can cut it back, you sure quite
a bit, right?

Speaker 2 (32:20):
All right?

Speaker 3 (32:21):
Okay, all right, Well, thank you so much. I appreciate it.

Speaker 1 (32:23):
You're welcome. Good talking with you.

Speaker 3 (32:25):
And again, all right, bye bye.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
Bye bye. I love that plant. You know, we don't
see carri a k E R R I a Japanese carrier.
It's a yellow flower almost a lime green stem and
leaves almost looks like a bramble, but the flowers outstanding.
It's a very bright gold. There's a hedgehoe and trying
to think of where that is in our area that
somebody had planted. That's very unusual because you see these

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things flowering in the summertime. They flower early and then
they're off and on through the summer. And the newer
varieties out there are a double yellow, small kind of
a button shape, but really nice flower. But it's called
care Area Japonica and loves and will tolerate good shade.
I will take the full sun as well. Tough plant.
You can hack them back like a ForCity and they

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come right back up again, but not used as much.
It's one of those plants I'm gonna have to put
on my plant list here to put as our planet
of the week, to bring a little bit more attention
to it, because it's a cool carrier. K E R
R A I a Japonica Japanese carrier to day Ohio, we.

Speaker 6 (33:26):
Go, Dick Mourning, Good morning, How are you?

Speaker 1 (33:31):
I am good?

Speaker 6 (33:31):
How are you okay?

Speaker 1 (33:34):
Good?

Speaker 6 (33:34):
Well, it's getting good during the holidays.

Speaker 1 (33:37):
Isn't it it is? Did you have the flashbacks when
it snowed on this week that you know, when you
were back at Low's selling all those uh snow shovels
and stuff.

Speaker 6 (33:47):
Yeah, yeah, I went out there that day. I think
I went somewhere to get some Christmas ship shopping done.
But yeah, the roads weren't too bad, but it was
kind of nice to see it.

Speaker 4 (33:58):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (33:59):
Yeah, that's a little excitement to the fall.

Speaker 4 (34:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (34:02):
Yeah, well, I'm gonna say the big gulls might come
out of this and when twenty seven twenty.

Speaker 1 (34:10):
Four, twenty seven twenty four, that's a close one.

Speaker 2 (34:13):
I'm right now.

Speaker 6 (34:14):
Yeah, I don't know. It's just a boy without burrow.
It just seemed like they're deep shovel, doesn't it.

Speaker 1 (34:20):
Well, you know, But but the thing of it is
the black I was doing a great job at quarterback.
You couldn't ask for more. It's just that something's wrong
with that defense they did. There's something they got to
deep dig in there and get that thing straightened out.

Speaker 6 (34:35):
Oh yeah, they really do.

Speaker 1 (34:37):
Yeah, but the offense is doing really good. I don't
think they've done fine. That's not the complaint. Yeah, it's
it's that defense.

Speaker 6 (34:44):
Yeah yeah, yeah, So I've been I talked to my
cousin this week and she was kind of happy. She
said it had a little snow up there, and yeah,
she keeps you know, she was a gardener, you know.

Speaker 1 (34:59):
So sure.

Speaker 6 (35:00):
Well listen, have a good week.

Speaker 1 (35:01):
All right, Dick. Good talking with you as usual. Take care, okay,
bye bye bye bye. All right, we'll take it quick break.
Coming up next to Barbie Bletcher, the Queen Bee. We'll
find out what's going on about a summary of twenty
twenty five as we go into the winter season, where
our honeybee stands at this stage. Then at the bottom
of the hour, got a book for you, and this
is a great one for yourself or for somebody for Christmas,

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right just in time. But I love this. It's called
The Preservers Garden, How to Garden, Grow, garden for ferment
and canning, pickling, dehydrating, freeze, drying, and more. Written by
a wife, a husband and wife who I'll let you
them tell the story, but actually moves so they could
do this on a I mean, it's crazy, but the
book is absolutely outstanding. We'll talk with Jeremy Hill at

(35:46):
the bottom of the hour. It's all happening here in
the garden with Ron Wilson.